Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Trump admin says Trump family's World Liberty Financial can launch a bank
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- 0:01Speaker 1: The Trump's family is enjoying yet another business victory, this
- 0:04Speaker 1: time thanks to the Trump administration. On Friday, the family's
- 0:08Speaker 1: crypto venture World Liberty Financial, announced it had received approval
- 0:12Speaker 1: from a Trump appointed official to become a bank, giving
- 0:16Speaker 1: the firm broader access to the very financial system it
- 0:19Speaker 1: was ostensibly founded to challenge. Now you'll remember, World Liberty
- 0:23Speaker 1: Financial accounts for a huge chunk of Trump's recent financial windfall,
- 0:27Speaker 1: earning him more than half a billion dollars just last year.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Firm CEO Zach Woodcoff, Steve Woodcoff's son, dismiss concerns of
- 0:36Speaker 1: conflicts of interest, telling the Wall Street Journal quote, we
- 0:39Speaker 1: answered all of the regulator's questions, and we accepted the
- 0:42Speaker 1: significant obligations and ongoing scrutiny to come with the national charter.
- 0:47Speaker 1: If we were looking for less oversight, we would not
- 0:49Speaker 1: have chosen federal supervision. Hofstra University law professor James Sample
- 0:54Speaker 1: joins us. Now Michael Feinberg is back with us. James,
- 0:57Speaker 1: can you put this in plain speak for US?
- 0:59Speaker 2: Sure? Similar bank charters have been approved for other bank institutions.
- 1:04Speaker 2: The variable here is ownership. The Trump and the Trump
- 1:08Speaker 2: family owns thirty eight percent of world financial world liberty financial.
- 1:13Speaker 2: So the applicant that company was applying to an agency
- 1:19Speaker 2: that is headed by an individual that Trump appointed who
- 1:23Speaker 2: can be removed at will, especially after the Supreme Court
- 1:27Speaker 2: decision and Trump Vslaughter, and that organization is approving the charter.
- 1:34Speaker 2: The only oversight that exists is now through the Attorney General, who,
- 1:41Speaker 2: as you just established in prior segments, is essentially acknowledged
- 1:45Speaker 2: and is at least telling the truth now that he
- 1:47Speaker 2: views himself as the president's attorney.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Thank you for walking us through what would be every
- 1:51Speaker 1: check and every balanced Michael. The other part here is
- 1:54Speaker 1: the fact that we're talking about crypto. Crypto is decentralized
- 1:57Speaker 1: currency for outsiders, people who are pushing back against traditional systems.
- 2:01Speaker 1: How hard is it to trace then the money that
- 2:05Speaker 1: is in that system.
- 2:08Speaker 3: Significantly harder than it would be for a normal traditional
- 2:12Speaker 3: financial system. There is a reason that criminals tend to
- 2:18Speaker 3: prefer crypto over using a normal wire service or a
- 2:22Speaker 3: standard bank. We've seen this used by terrorists, we've seen
- 2:27Speaker 3: this used by foreign spies, and we've seen this used
- 2:30Speaker 3: by run of the mill criminal enterprises. The very concept
- 2:34Speaker 3: of crypto was to create a sort of non state
- 2:40Speaker 3: backed currency exchange of sorts. It's not entirely clear whether
- 2:45Speaker 3: the designers of crypto intended for it to be a
- 2:49Speaker 3: payment system or an investment opportunity, and as a result,
- 2:53Speaker 3: it sort of has the worst features of both. But
- 2:57Speaker 3: we do know that it's early adopter did so specifically
- 3:01Speaker 3: so they could obfuscate their transactions to a degree that
- 3:06Speaker 3: was not possible under traditional financial systems.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Okay, so we have this one story about crypto and
- 3:12Speaker 1: the bank, and then you have this story that I
- 3:14Speaker 1: want to get your take out, which is the Treasury
- 3:15Speaker 1: Department just ended ownership reporting rules for US companies. Quote.
- 3:19Speaker 1: Secretary of Besson argued that the rules, which were designed
- 3:22Speaker 1: to combat money laundering and other financial crimes, were quote
- 3:25Speaker 1: a burdensome reporting requirement. Your reaction.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Michael probably is the real expert on this. So, if
- 3:33Speaker 2: you've watched the Jack Ryan series, Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan,
- 3:36Speaker 2: he was an analyst. The fictional character was an analyst
- 3:40Speaker 2: at an organization called Finsen. That is a finan that
- 3:43Speaker 2: is on an arm of the Treasury that, among other things,
- 3:47Speaker 2: tracks the actual owners of shell companies. So what this
- 3:51Speaker 2: all boils down to Alicia is that shell companies formed
- 3:55Speaker 2: in the United States no longer have to report who
- 3:58Speaker 2: their actual owner to the United States government. They also
- 4:02Speaker 2: went further and this regulation will destroy all of the
- 4:08Speaker 2: data on ownership of these shell companies that had already
- 4:12Speaker 2: been collected. So if you think about who is the
- 4:16Speaker 2: pro money laundering camp out there, what is the constituency
- 4:20Speaker 2: that is in favor of undoing anti money laundering statutes?
- 4:25Speaker 2: Now there is a paperwork aspect to this, and there
- 4:28Speaker 2: are some small businesses who allegedly were caught up in burden,
- 4:32Speaker 2: some paperwork that could be fixed. But this isn't turning
- 4:36Speaker 2: off the lights, it's ripping the wiring out of the walls.
- 4:39Speaker 2: And why would you destroy the evidence of ownership of
- 4:43Speaker 2: shell companies that you already have in the database? Storing
- 4:47Speaker 2: data costs next to nothing. Who are you serving when
- 4:51Speaker 2: you do that? The questions answer themselves.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Michael Feinberg, crusis.
- 4:55Speaker 3: For criminals, largely white collar criminals, be because they are
- 5:00Speaker 3: the ones who can afford to go through the entire
- 5:04Speaker 3: process and logistic burden of setting up a shell company.
- 5:08Speaker 3: But make no mistake, I mean there's also foreign intelligence
- 5:11Speaker 3: services and foreign terrorist organizations that do the same thing.
- 5:16Speaker 3: I can only assume, based on what we've seen in
- 5:20Speaker 3: terms of other policy decisions from this Justice Department, that
- 5:24Speaker 3: letting terrorists and spies off the hook is just the
- 5:28Speaker 3: necessary cost of doing business to help those who help
- 5:32Speaker 3: the White House. There's no justification for this whatsoever, except
- 5:40Speaker 3: to help white collar criminals evade the responsibility of their actions.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Worth noting before we go, in reaction to what you said,
- 5:48Speaker 1: Besson explicitly said that getting rid of this rule would
- 5:50Speaker 1: not harm national security. According to your analysis, that would
- 5:53Speaker 1: seem not to be so. Muchel Heinberke always good to
- 5:55Speaker 1: have you, Thank you, James, and to ask you to
- 5:57Speaker 1: stick with us.