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- 0:00Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Sex lies and videotape, will
- 0:12Speaker 1: secret sex recordings sink Diddy aka Sean Puffy comes this
- 0:22Speaker 1: as Diddy spends the last seventy two hours trying really
- 0:28Speaker 1: hard to look nonchalant. I'll tell you this, if a
- 0:33Speaker 1: bunch of FEDS had pulled up in my front yard
- 0:36Speaker 1: in armored trucks and wearing kevlar, I'd be worried. I'm
- 0:42Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
- 0:44Speaker 1: with us here at Crime Stories and on MSM. Where
- 1:01Speaker 1: is Diddy? He's spending the last seventy two hur hours
- 1:04Speaker 1: looking very not concerned about the ongoing sex trafficking investigation
- 1:11Speaker 1: instigated by the federal government Homeland security investigators piling into
- 1:17Speaker 1: a simultaneous search of two Diddy locations. Seemingly that doesn't
- 1:23Speaker 1: bother him. As a matter of fact, he reposted one
- 1:28Speaker 1: of his music videos titled Victory Okay, what was that?
- 1:43Speaker 1: At the very end a woman writhing up and down
- 1:47Speaker 1: on a stripper pole, seemingly in a cage, and then
- 1:52Speaker 1: you see a cutaway of Sean Puffy Combs on the
- 1:56Speaker 1: run from apparently federal agents. Wow, I don't know that
- 2:02Speaker 1: this is a good time to repost that, but he did. Guys,
- 2:07Speaker 1: take a listen to this.
- 2:08Speaker 2: While initial reports indicated that Combs may have left the country,
- 2:12Speaker 2: it appears the mogul has remained in Miami since the raids.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Combs was seen taking his teen daughters to Top Golf
- 2:18Speaker 2: and stopping by a restaurant in the days after the searches.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Over the Easter holiday, Combs posted several photos of his
- 2:24Speaker 2: youngest daughter Love. Most recently, the rapper was caught on
- 2:27Speaker 2: camera riding his bike to South Beach. Combs was all smiles,
- 2:30Speaker 2: appearing unbothered by the continuing investigation and allegations of sex
- 2:34Speaker 2: trafficking and sex assault.
- 2:36Speaker 1: As Seanpavi, Combs gets warnings from behind bars that his
- 2:39Speaker 1: life is in danger, he goes for a bye ride
- 2:44Speaker 1: with me an all star panel to make sense of
- 2:46Speaker 1: what we know right now. But first of Kila Brantley,
- 2:48Speaker 1: investigative reporter with Dailymail dot Com, on the story from
- 2:52Speaker 1: the very beginning, Kila, what's the latest?
- 2:54Speaker 3: Thanks for having me, Nancy. Things have just gone from
- 2:57Speaker 3: bad to worse for Diddy, and now not only is
- 3:00Speaker 3: he being accused of misconduct, but his son is being accused.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Now his son, Christian King Colmbs. He's only twenty six
- 3:08Speaker 3: years old, and he was named in a lawsuit by
- 3:11Speaker 3: a young woman twenty five year old named Grace, who
- 3:14Speaker 3: was working on a yacht in December twenty twenty two
- 3:18Speaker 3: when she says that Christian Combs assaulted her, that he's
- 3:22Speaker 3: tried groping her, that he trapped her in a room,
- 3:26Speaker 3: and that it was it wasn't until another crew member
- 3:28Speaker 3: came to stop it that she was finally released. She
- 3:32Speaker 3: said that she was forced to take a tequila shot,
- 3:35Speaker 3: and there's actual audio of that incident where she asks
- 3:40Speaker 3: is this drugged? And he says, take the tequila shot?
- 3:43Speaker 1: Okay, wait, where did the video come from?
- 3:45Speaker 3: So it's an audio that was a transcript of the
- 3:48Speaker 3: audio was included in the thirty one page lawsuit. So
- 3:53Speaker 3: apparently I'm not sure who exactly was recording, but there
- 3:56Speaker 3: is a recording out there.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I've got a lawsuit, right, it's a whopper,
- 4:01Speaker 1: it's huge. Joining me very quickly, and I want to
- 4:03Speaker 1: circle back to you, Kela about Sean Puffy Combs aka
- 4:08Speaker 1: Ditty Spinning, Spinning, Spinning, I mean, this guy is a
- 4:14Speaker 1: master promoter. That's what he has done to become a
- 4:18Speaker 1: media mogul with a net worth of around one billion dollars.
- 4:22Speaker 1: He spends he spends it right and that's what he's
- 4:26Speaker 1: doing right now. Every move he makes in the public anyway,
- 4:30Speaker 1: is for a reason. To Bernarda Villa Loona Banara via
- 4:35Speaker 1: Loana criminal defense attorney, former prosecutor at via Loona Law
- 4:41Speaker 1: dot com, BERNARDA, thank you for being with us. Here's
- 4:44Speaker 1: the reality. Sean Puffy Combs has been dragged into another
- 4:49Speaker 1: lawsuit claiming sex attack on his son because it occurred
- 4:57Speaker 1: on ditties seanpafy c coms yacht Okay. And the allegation
- 5:03Speaker 1: is that comes aided and embedded his son in this attack.
- 5:09Speaker 1: But what I want to ask you about, Bernarda Violona
- 5:12Speaker 1: is the audio tape that Caleb Brantley's talking about. Can
- 5:16Speaker 1: I see Bernarda. Please Bernarda to get a video or
- 5:23Speaker 1: in audio tape, even if it's a nine to one
- 5:25Speaker 1: one call from the police, for Pete's sake, the prosecutor
- 5:30Speaker 1: or whoever wants to bring it in, has to go
- 5:31Speaker 1: through a series of evidentiary hoops. In fact, it's laid
- 5:35Speaker 1: out in black and White. In the criminal Code, you
- 5:38Speaker 1: have to prove veracity. You've got to show who made
- 5:41Speaker 1: the audio sometimes why did they make the audio in
- 5:45Speaker 1: as the circumstances surrounding the audio being made, you have
- 5:50Speaker 1: to show chain of custody on the audio to make
- 5:53Speaker 1: sure it hasn't been tampered with in any way. So
- 5:56Speaker 1: when I say who made it, where did it come from?
- 5:59Speaker 1: That's got to be even in court before it can
- 6:01Speaker 1: be allowed before jury.
- 6:02Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely so, Nancy. What it seems like is that
- 6:06Speaker 4: Little Rod, who's one of the people that is also
- 6:08Speaker 4: suing Puffy, was the one who actually made the recording.
- 6:12Speaker 1: BERNARDA. I don't know if you're expecting to go over
- 6:16Speaker 1: to his house after the trial, but I believe you're
- 6:21Speaker 1: referring to Rodney Jones aka Little Rod.
- 6:26Speaker 5: Yeah, so supposedly it was Little Rod. Ronnie Jones was
- 6:29Speaker 5: the one who made this recording.
- 6:31Speaker 4: Which calls into question is why he was making a
- 6:34Speaker 4: recording and he knew what was going to happen, so
- 6:37Speaker 4: he did it thinking that it was going to happen,
- 6:39Speaker 4: and he wanted evidence of it. Interestingly enough, that the
- 6:43Speaker 4: attorney does representing Ronnie Jones is the same attorney that's
- 6:46Speaker 4: representing this complaint in this victim, in this alleged sexual assault.
- 6:51Speaker 4: But this is very damning evidence because usually in cases
- 6:55Speaker 4: like this, Nancy, what's the number one defense, credibility, believe ability.
- 7:00Speaker 5: She's making it up. This is a money.
- 7:02Speaker 4: Grap But here you have an actual audio recording that
- 7:06Speaker 4: the complaining the victim is going to be able to
- 7:09Speaker 4: authenticate and say that is me on the recording, that
- 7:13Speaker 4: is actually what happened. There is nothing missing from that recording,
- 7:17Speaker 4: and will be able to meet the birden to have
- 7:20Speaker 4: that piece of evidence move into evidence if it's in
- 7:23Speaker 4: a CIBIL lawsuit, in a civil case, or even in
- 7:26Speaker 4: a criminal one.
- 7:27Speaker 5: So that hurdle is going to be met.
- 7:29Speaker 4: But this is very damaging against his son, also damaging
- 7:33Speaker 4: against Didi because it can even possibly go in if
- 7:37Speaker 4: the federal prosecutors are looking at a reco charge can
- 7:40Speaker 4: go in as one of those acts.
- 7:42Speaker 1: You're throwing around a lot of legal phrases when you
- 7:44Speaker 1: say rico, it's a typically referred to as racketeering. But
- 7:50Speaker 1: what she means as an organized conspiracy, it doesn't have
- 7:54Speaker 1: to be that organized. It could be For instance, Sean
- 7:58Speaker 1: Pavy comes gets his number one hench person to bring
- 8:02Speaker 1: in a girl and somebody else spikes a drink. As
- 8:07Speaker 1: a hypothetical, it's just basically a group, even if loosely
- 8:12Speaker 1: joined together, joining together for a criminal enterprise such as
- 8:17Speaker 1: sex trafficking. And you know, BERNARDA. Vielona, I like what
- 8:22Speaker 1: you said. You're a former prosecutor, and you look at
- 8:26Speaker 1: the evidence, I e. This audio tape. Hey, is this drugged?
- 8:30Speaker 1: The woman says before she drinks it, and the audio
- 8:33Speaker 1: says that comes as Sun says, just drink it, drink it. Okay,
- 8:38Speaker 1: long story short, that's a problem for the defense. So
- 8:43Speaker 1: they are going to attack the alleged victim. They're going
- 8:46Speaker 1: to drag her through the mud. But if they can
- 8:48Speaker 1: get that audio in, that goes a long way to
- 8:51Speaker 1: corroborating her story. I'm very curious from where that audio came.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Now this as it span spinning out, Caleb Brantley joining
- 9:02Speaker 1: me dailymail dot Com. The Instagram model Jade Ramie denies
- 9:10Speaker 1: in Little Rod Rodney Jones lawsuit that she was ever
- 9:14Speaker 1: a sex worker. So the fans are not going to
- 9:17Speaker 1: be able to count on her because she's already shot
- 9:19Speaker 1: her credibility in the foot by going public and saying that.
- 9:23Speaker 1: But I see a litmus test here when you say, hey,
- 9:26Speaker 1: you're lying on me. That's slander, that's libel. Are you
- 9:30Speaker 1: going to sue? Because if you sue, the truth is
- 9:34Speaker 1: a complete defense. So let's just see if a lawsuit
- 9:36Speaker 1: comes out of this. But I want to talk about
- 9:38Speaker 1: Cobs being a spindmaster, a powerhouse in the music industry,
- 9:44Speaker 1: largely because he is not only talented, but a genius
- 9:47Speaker 1: at marketing. This promoter is putting out there his actions
- 9:53Speaker 1: implying a lot. He's viking, he's smiling. Come to me, Liz.
- 9:58Speaker 1: I want to show the viewers something this weekend. He
- 10:01Speaker 1: was going over a bridge on a bike and he
- 10:04Speaker 1: let go of the handlebars and just went freestyle. Hey look, mom,
- 10:09Speaker 1: no hands like can Titanic when Kate wins. Lets just
- 10:13Speaker 1: let's go right like he doesn't have a care in
- 10:17Speaker 1: the world. Biking, smiling, drinking wine. Translation, I'm not worried.
- 10:24Speaker 1: It's a span kiala well.
- 10:27Speaker 3: As you can see, these allegations go back decades, and
- 10:30Speaker 3: he's gotten away with things thus far. So I feel
- 10:33Speaker 3: like he's just acting as if he will continue to
- 10:37Speaker 3: get out of things and get away from things. It's
- 10:38Speaker 3: something that he's accustomed to, living this glamorous lifestyle, and
- 10:43Speaker 3: when he tells people to do things, they do it.
- 10:45Speaker 3: When he tells people to cover things up, they do it.
- 10:48Speaker 3: So for him, obviously things have gotten much worse. He's
- 10:51Speaker 3: ever had a huge raid on his house, a federal investigation.
- 10:55Speaker 3: But for him, this is just another issue that he's
- 10:58Speaker 3: hoping will be swept under the rug.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy, Grace, Scott, and Johnson joining me
- 11:15Speaker 1: forensic psychologists thirty two years dealing with sex predators at
- 11:23Speaker 1: Forensicconsultation dot org. Scott, thank you for being with us.
- 11:26Speaker 1: You know, I prosecuted a lot of eight cases, a
- 11:30Speaker 1: trafficking case with a fourteen year old little victim. I
- 11:36Speaker 1: can't even count them all, Scott. And sometimes the defendant
- 11:40Speaker 1: comes into corney looks really worried, okay, sweating, fidgety, can't
- 11:48Speaker 1: meet anybody's eyes, can't look them in the face. And
- 11:51Speaker 1: there are others that are bold and arrogant because the
- 11:58Speaker 1: sex attack victims may nothing to them. They are so
- 12:03Speaker 1: convinced of their own power, their wealth, their prestige. They
- 12:09Speaker 1: believe nobody is going to believe the victim.
- 12:13Speaker 6: Right, and part of that narcissism and psychopath traits of
- 12:17Speaker 6: being able to portray themselves is socially great and then
- 12:21Speaker 6: have the equally opposite DEVI inside of getting away with things,
- 12:26Speaker 6: covering it up and just blowing it off with minimal
- 12:31Speaker 6: fear of consequences. And that's really I think what we're
- 12:36Speaker 6: seeing with him is portraying this I just really don't
- 12:39Speaker 6: care lifestyle when in fact, a normal person, if you will,
- 12:45Speaker 6: would have been hiding, would have been scared, would have
- 12:48Speaker 6: been worried about going to prison and their reputation. He's
- 12:52Speaker 6: just outliving his life again. He doesn't care well.
- 12:55Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, an associate of Sean Puffy
- 12:59Speaker 1: comes aka Didty, has released a highlight reel of Sean
- 13:05Speaker 1: Puffy cums lavish parties. This emerges with combst partying with
- 13:10Speaker 1: Hollywood friends, A listers and designer clothes.
- 13:13Speaker 7: As rumors swirl around the sex trafficking allegations against Sean
- 13:17Speaker 7: Ditty Comb's. Many celebrities in Comb's circle have remained silent. Others,
- 13:22Speaker 7: especially those named in Rodney Jones lawsuit, have rushed to
- 13:25Speaker 7: the rappers defense. Producer Stevie j posted a highlight reel
- 13:28Speaker 7: of Comb's fiftieth birthday party to Instagram, showing off many
- 13:32Speaker 7: A list attendees. While the post purports to indicate what
- 13:35Speaker 7: a real ditty party looks like, it may also serve
- 13:38Speaker 7: as a reminder to those pictured that they were on camera.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Doctor dre Jay Z, Mary Blige, Kim and
- 13:46Speaker 1: Chloe Kardashian, Kyler Jenner, Post Malone, Naomi Campbell, Cardi b Big, Sean, Travis, Scott,
- 13:53Speaker 1: The Weekend, Kanye, Jade and smith Snoop Dogg, Queen, Latifa,
- 13:58Speaker 1: Kevin Hart, Machine Gun, Kelly I can't even read them all,
- 14:03Speaker 1: so I guess the point is all of these A
- 14:07Speaker 1: listeners are partying with Combs. You think the fans care?
- 14:12Speaker 1: Everybody parties with Puff. That's Stevie Jay's visual reminder, STEVEEJ
- 14:20Speaker 1: posting a video that Combs as big as pr offensive
- 14:24Speaker 1: today is this video showing star after star after star
- 14:30Speaker 1: partying with Sean Puffy Combs. Back to you, Scott Johnson,
- 14:34Speaker 1: you think the fans care?
- 14:35Speaker 6: Absolutely not, because this is just him portraying this socially normal,
- 14:40Speaker 6: respected kind of individual sore when in fact, the dark
- 14:45Speaker 6: side's still going on and so regardless of who he's with,
- 14:50Speaker 6: it doesn't take away at all the credibility of any
- 14:53Speaker 6: of the alleged victims or the charges against it.
- 14:56Speaker 1: To you, Bernardo vi Alona, though, what about a jury,
- 15:00Speaker 1: What about the association between Combs and these superstars like
- 15:06Speaker 1: Mary Blige, like The Weekend, like the Kardashians and the Genners.
- 15:12Speaker 1: That could actually affect.
- 15:14Speaker 4: A gr R absolutely, because you gotta think jury's are
- 15:17Speaker 4: normal people. They may be phased by all of these
- 15:20Speaker 4: stars and it may affect their judgment. But I think
- 15:23Speaker 4: the FEDS do care, Nancy, And this is how the
- 15:27Speaker 4: FEDS may want to question, may want to subpoena these
- 15:30Speaker 4: A listeners to see whether they have any knowledge of
- 15:34Speaker 4: what happened at these parties, whether they have anything that
- 15:37Speaker 4: can move the ball or any interest, or have they
- 15:40Speaker 4: seen or heard anything criminal wise, So they do care
- 15:44Speaker 4: in that sense.
- 15:46Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if any of them get subpoenas.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Including Golden Boy Ashton Krishner, who apparently is preparing to
- 15:52Speaker 1: be subpoena. Of course he's not saying that, but sources
- 15:57Speaker 1: are saying that. Is that real? What they better be
- 16:00Speaker 1: worried about instead? Of posting birthday videos with stars is
- 16:05Speaker 1: what we have been told. Video and audio recordings depicting
- 16:12Speaker 1: sex acts by Diddy and others on victims, be they
- 16:17Speaker 1: willing or unwilling, remains to be seen. Listen.
- 16:20Speaker 2: The Rodney Lilrod Jones lawsuit alleges there's evidence of the
- 16:24Speaker 2: sexual assaults and sex trafficking as hidden cameras record everything
- 16:28Speaker 2: throughout the combs homes, which is why homes in LA
- 16:31Speaker 2: and Miami were rated. Combe's former bodyguard, Gene Deal, commented
- 16:35Speaker 2: that if there are cameras in Comb's homes, there may
- 16:38Speaker 2: be compromising video of politicians and princes. The claims are
- 16:41Speaker 2: reminiscent of the cameras Jeffrey Epstein allegedly used as an
- 16:45Speaker 2: insurance policy against powerful friends like Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton.
- 16:49Speaker 1: To Mary Golden, joining US former senior inspector with the
- 16:52Speaker 1: US Marshall Service now with Golden Consulting and Investigations, Berry,
- 16:56Speaker 1: thank you for being with us keeping video seriously. I mean,
- 17:03Speaker 1: I don't know if he intended to keep the videos
- 17:05Speaker 1: or just never erase them, but apparently during the raids
- 17:11Speaker 1: on his two domiciles, videos were seized. I mean, if
- 17:17Speaker 1: that's true. What an idiot to keep videos? I mean,
- 17:23Speaker 1: help me, Barry Golden.
- 17:25Speaker 8: That's what people do. People keep videos to look back on,
- 17:28Speaker 8: you know, later in time.
- 17:30Speaker 1: And okay, could you just stop right there, Barry Golden. Yes,
- 17:33Speaker 1: once in a while I relook at videos of the
- 17:37Speaker 1: my children through the years going to Santa because I
- 17:40Speaker 1: happen to have it on a reel. The way you
- 17:44Speaker 1: said that, you made it sound so innocent. Yeah, people
- 17:47Speaker 1: look back on videos and reminisce what these are sex
- 17:52Speaker 1: videos potentially of unwilling victims. That means rape, rape, that's
- 18:01Speaker 1: what we're talking about. What do you mean to reminiss Well.
- 18:04Speaker 8: I'm not remend just people had to have they keep
- 18:06Speaker 8: the videos. And you know, one thing that I look
- 18:10Speaker 8: at it and some of the audio recordings that you
- 18:13Speaker 8: have and the video recordings, especially that audio recording on
- 18:16Speaker 8: that yacht. One thing you may want to look at
- 18:18Speaker 8: is that somebody has to authenticate that audio recording. It's
- 18:21Speaker 8: an audio recording. So if the allegations that Rodney Evans
- 18:25Speaker 8: is the one that took that audio recording, there needs
- 18:29Speaker 8: to be Dayton Times stamped somehow, just so you don't
- 18:32Speaker 8: have some audio that happened, you know, you don't know
- 18:35Speaker 8: when it needs to be Dayton time stamped. And it's
- 18:38Speaker 8: probably taken by his cell phone, which means Rodney Evans
- 18:42Speaker 8: probably is a witness to some of the partial alleged
- 18:47Speaker 8: you know, sex acts that might have happened if he
- 18:50Speaker 8: recorded that, and maybe not all of them, but part
- 18:52Speaker 8: of them. So, but all these videos are going to
- 18:56Speaker 8: need to be Dayton timestamps and have an accurate time
- 19:00Speaker 8: why happen?
- 19:00Speaker 3: You know what?
- 19:01Speaker 1: I got bigger problems in the Dayton timestamp Barry Golden.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Of course you're right, Yes, of course you're right. Evidentiarily
- 19:09Speaker 1: you're right, and that's got to be done by the
- 19:12Speaker 1: fans that they're going to bring this type of evidence
- 19:14Speaker 1: into trial. But I got a bigger question, Scott Johnson,
- 19:20Speaker 1: I need to shrink. And you're a forensic psychologist. What
- 19:24Speaker 1: kind of PERV keeps videos of unwilling, allegedly unwilling sex
- 19:31Speaker 1: acts with victims for the fans to race in in
- 19:35Speaker 1: their armored vehicle and.
- 19:36Speaker 6: Seize yes and out of narcissism, they keep these videos
- 19:40Speaker 6: so they can replay them, enjoy them, get off on
- 19:44Speaker 6: the power that they is demonstrated in the video, but
- 19:49Speaker 6: also as a source of blackmail for those involved to
- 19:54Speaker 6: keep them quiet.
- 19:55Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so you're saying blackmail on the victim to
- 19:58Speaker 1: keep the victim quiet, and all of these are allegations.
- 20:02Speaker 1: Nobody's been tried, nobody's been found guilty. In fact, Sean
- 20:06Speaker 1: Puffy Diddy p Diddy com says he's innocent. So wait,
- 20:11Speaker 1: let me understand this, the alleged rapist, you're saying, we'd
- 20:16Speaker 1: use the videos to blackmail the alleged victim. Isn't that
- 20:21Speaker 1: bass backwards? Shouldn't she the victim be using it against him?
- 20:27Speaker 6: Well, it's one way to not only keep the victim quiet,
- 20:30Speaker 6: but also others that were participating from possibly testifying against
- 20:34Speaker 6: what was allowed to happen. So from that standpoint, it's
- 20:38Speaker 6: a power piece in the chess game for the offender,
- 20:41Speaker 6: as well as going back and reminiscing about it.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Why do you keep saying that you and Barry Golden reminiscing, like, hey,
- 20:51Speaker 1: you remember that time we got in the RV across
- 20:54Speaker 1: the country together. That's reminiscing what you said earlier. I think,
- 20:59Speaker 1: woh be, what's happening where you and I'm just a JD. Okay,
- 21:04Speaker 1: you're the shrink, but you look back on the rape
- 21:08Speaker 1: and you get sexual excitement out of that. I mean,
- 21:13Speaker 1: I'm cueuing a with myself here, But this whole reminiscing thing,
- 21:17Speaker 1: it's not some grandma on the front porch with a
- 21:19Speaker 1: rocking chair going through the photo album.
- 21:21Speaker 6: Correct, But he is getting off and aroused to what's
- 21:25Speaker 6: going on because that turns him on. And so what
- 21:28Speaker 6: Barry was saying and I'm saying, is that for the offender,
- 21:31Speaker 6: this is a momentum for them as well to re
- 21:36Speaker 6: enjoy what happened, as well as for blackmail purposes.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace to Bretton Brown joining me,
- 21:56Speaker 1: executive director of SAS. That's Surviving Assault Standing Strong. It's
- 22:01Speaker 1: a nonprofit on a mission to eradicate abuse and trafficking
- 22:08Speaker 1: Brett Brown. I mean, really, these women and one man.
- 22:14Speaker 1: I like to add that we know all so far
- 22:17Speaker 1: are alleging that they were forced or coerced into sex.
- 22:24Speaker 1: And now there are videos we are learning just to
- 22:29Speaker 1: add insult to injury, some of these episodes were videotaped
- 22:34Speaker 1: and some idiot kept the videos.
- 22:37Speaker 9: Yes, I see a pattern here that we see a
- 22:40Speaker 9: lot among predators, and it is one of ownership. Sean
- 22:44Speaker 9: Combs sets out to own his victims, and he does
- 22:48Speaker 9: it in a variety of ways, but usually beginning with
- 22:52Speaker 9: gifts that are trojan horse gifts. So if you're looking
- 22:55Speaker 9: to get on a label, if you want a nice
- 22:57Speaker 9: place to live, if you're looking to kind of, you know,
- 23:02Speaker 9: record a record, any of these things.
- 23:04Speaker 5: It's people's dreams.
- 23:05Speaker 9: And then he takes them and he twists them into
- 23:07Speaker 9: a nightmare. And he maintains this ownership over people through
- 23:11Speaker 9: threats and intimidation. And it's been clear this is a
- 23:14Speaker 9: man who makes good on his promises. He follows through
- 23:17Speaker 9: on those threats, and so how many times has he
- 23:20Speaker 9: been brought to justice? So when you look at the
- 23:23Speaker 9: victims over the years, they're trying to figure out what
- 23:27Speaker 9: survival looks like. How do they stay alive and keep
- 23:29Speaker 9: going without having to relive this over and over again.
- 23:32Speaker 9: For some of them it is silence and for others
- 23:35Speaker 9: now they are finally speaking out even though they may
- 23:38Speaker 9: be videoed.
- 23:39Speaker 1: There are four Jane Does and one John Doe who
- 23:45Speaker 1: has been They have been interviewed by the Feds. Listen,
- 23:50Speaker 1: I had sex with Cassie and Sean. Basically he would masturbate,
- 23:55Speaker 1: tell me what to do with Cassie. I had like
- 23:57Speaker 1: fifteen colors.
- 23:59Speaker 6: And I heard lots about business because what they would
- 24:02Speaker 6: do is Sean talks a lot on the phone and
- 24:06Speaker 6: on the TV with people and stuff, and I'll be
- 24:08Speaker 6: in there.
- 24:08Speaker 5: I was like a sex sleeve.
- 24:10Speaker 1: Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa Wait, Okay, it's hard to make
- 24:14Speaker 1: out what he's saying, but I have transcribed it. I
- 24:17Speaker 1: had sex with Cassie and Sean. Basically he would masturbate
- 24:22Speaker 1: and tell me what to do with Cassie. I had
- 24:25Speaker 1: like fifteen encounters, and I heard a lot about business
- 24:29Speaker 1: because they would do it. What they would do is
- 24:34Speaker 1: Sean talks a lot on the phone and on the
- 24:37Speaker 1: TV with speakers and stuff, and I being I was
- 24:42Speaker 1: like a sex slave. There you are. That is Cassie
- 24:45Speaker 1: Ventura on multiple of her album covers beautiful. So let
- 24:52Speaker 1: me understand to Caleb Brantley, there are right now we
- 24:56Speaker 1: know of four Jane Does that have been interviewed John Doe,
- 25:01Speaker 1: who I am guessing is this guy Jonathan Odie.
- 25:06Speaker 3: Yeah, Nancy, so as you heard that there's these John
- 25:10Speaker 3: Does and these Jane Does who are being interviewed, who
- 25:12Speaker 3: obviously were paid a lot of money to keep quiet.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Now that clearly hasn't worked out for Diddy. And this
- 25:19Speaker 3: is somebody who has a lot of power, like we said,
- 25:22Speaker 3: a lot of influence like we said. And going back
- 25:25Speaker 3: to the latest lawsuit filed by the woman on the
- 25:28Speaker 3: yacht who alleges Ditty's son groped her, she also named
- 25:33Speaker 3: Ditty for aiding and a bedding. Now she alleges that
- 25:36Speaker 3: she did file a proper complaint, but that things just kind.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Of got swept under the rug.
- 25:42Speaker 3: And she alleges that Diddy paid off the captain to
- 25:46Speaker 3: turn a blind eye. So if we're talking about his power,
- 25:49Speaker 3: his influence, he's used to paying off anyone he can
- 25:52Speaker 3: to get things to quietly go A.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to go back out to Brett Brown,
- 25:58Speaker 1: Executive director of Surviving Salt Standing Strong. I'm saying a
- 26:03Speaker 1: lot of rapists get away slip through the cracks for
- 26:10Speaker 1: various reasons. I wonder how long SPC Shanpuffy Comes has
- 26:16Speaker 1: managed to do that, if at all.
- 26:19Speaker 9: It seems as though this has been going on for decades.
- 26:23Speaker 9: And so when we're looking at the victims in these cases,
- 26:26Speaker 9: they are having to make really difficult decisions what to do.
- 26:31Speaker 9: Justice has yet to be served, and so as more
- 26:35Speaker 9: are coming forward there is momentum and safety in that
- 26:39Speaker 9: while at the same time they are reliving their experience
- 26:42Speaker 9: over and over again, as more video and more audio
- 26:46Speaker 9: comes out and more people speak, and so it's a
- 26:49Speaker 9: long and arduous process with no guarantee at the end
- 26:52Speaker 9: so far.
- 26:53Speaker 1: Scott Johnson, you were weighing in earlier about the potential
- 26:57Speaker 1: sex recordings.
- 26:58Speaker 6: Yes, and so again back to using them for in
- 27:02Speaker 6: their mind, reliving what for them was a positive experience.
- 27:07Speaker 1: Just say it, for Pete's sake, Scott Johnson. Masturbating exactly. Masturbating,
- 27:14Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. It's a turn on for them,
- 27:17Speaker 1: but also a potential blackmail piece to keep people quiet.
- 27:22Speaker 1: And as has already been said, he gets away with
- 27:24Speaker 1: things because people can cover up.
- 27:27Speaker 6: He's not worried about it, he's not hiding. He's actually
- 27:31Speaker 6: sitting back, probably reveling in the fact that all of
- 27:35Speaker 6: this is going on, and he's expecting everything to go
- 27:38Speaker 6: away and will continue to attack the credibility of any victim.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Well, hey, there's a track record it has gone away.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Caleb Brantley, remember the claims that were made not too
- 27:51Speaker 1: long ago, and there was a hush hush, most likely
- 27:55Speaker 1: multimillion dollar payout to get rid of them.
- 27:57Speaker 4: Yep.
- 27:58Speaker 3: After Cassi event trofiled her life suit the next day,
- 28:01Speaker 3: they settled it out of court for an undisclosed amount.
- 28:05Speaker 3: And I think what's happening here is that did he
- 28:08Speaker 3: thought the risk of having these videos was worth it
- 28:12Speaker 3: to have blackmail on these high powered people that he
- 28:15Speaker 3: had these videos of, And in an Epstein esque fashion,
- 28:20Speaker 3: you know, it worked out. Maybe we would have had lawsuits,
- 28:23Speaker 3: maybe we would have had raids and federal investigations years
- 28:26Speaker 3: ago if he didn't have these videos for potential blackmail
- 28:30Speaker 3: on these high powered people.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Well it goes beyond that. Guys. This is incredible to me.
- 28:36Speaker 1: But in the last hours, the alleged victims lawyer has
- 28:42Speaker 1: been attacked in claims that the victims are out to
- 28:45Speaker 1: quote embarrass SBC Sean Puffy Combs, completely ignoring the hell
- 28:52Speaker 1: that sex trafficking victims go through. Oh no, yeah, that
- 28:56Speaker 1: didn't happen. Don't look there, look over here. Did he's embarrassed? Listen?
- 29:02Speaker 2: Tyrone Blackburn, the lawyer representing both Rodney Jones and Grace Omarquay,
- 29:06Speaker 2: the latest of Suecombs, is accused of improperly filing several
- 29:10Speaker 2: lawsuits to quote garner media attention, embarrassed defendants with salacious allegations,
- 29:15Speaker 2: and pressure defendants to settle quickly. Judge Denise Code has
- 29:19Speaker 2: referred Blackburn to the New York Federal Court's Grievance Committee,
- 29:22Speaker 2: which has the power to disbar Blackburn. Sean and Justin
- 29:25Speaker 2: Comb's lawyer, Aaron Dyer stated, the latest filing by Blackburn
- 29:29Speaker 2: is quote filled with the same kind of manufactured lies
- 29:32Speaker 2: and irrelevant facts we've come to expect from Blackburn. We
- 29:35Speaker 2: will be filing a motion to dismiss this outrageous claim.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Okay, let's analyze what we just heard. Okay, killib Brantley.
- 29:44Speaker 1: Let me understand this. I was used to it as
- 29:47Speaker 1: a prosecutor. Every big trial I had, I would get
- 29:50Speaker 1: a claim that I needed to be thrown off the case.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Why it varied, and the judge needed to be thrown
- 29:57Speaker 1: off the case, and the investigator needed to be thrown
- 29:59Speaker 1: off the SAK case. Everybody needs to get thrown off
- 30:01Speaker 1: the case, right, Okay, we see it happen in a
- 30:04Speaker 1: lot of high profile cases. And here's the beginning claims
- 30:09Speaker 1: being made on the alleged victims lawyer that he's the
- 30:14Speaker 1: bad guy, and now there's actually going to be what
- 30:18Speaker 1: a mini hearing on it. I mean, this is so
- 30:21Speaker 1: bass Awkwards. The alleged victim's lawyer is getting a complaint
- 30:27Speaker 1: on him. You know what, I might give it a
- 30:31Speaker 1: shred of analysis, but that the fact that the Feds
- 30:35Speaker 1: just searched spc's homes armed with assault weapons, that kind
- 30:42Speaker 1: of corroborates what the victim's lawyer is saying. Oh, there's
- 30:47Speaker 1: some new video out. I do not want to look
- 30:50Speaker 1: out my kitchen window and see this. Oh hey, did
- 30:54Speaker 1: you just see that drone? They use drones to precede
- 30:59Speaker 1: them to make sure he's hiding around a corner with
- 31:02Speaker 1: an M six steing. So what about this, Caleb Brantley,
- 31:07Speaker 1: The victims lawyers are under attack.
- 31:10Speaker 3: I mean, clearly, it just looks like it's a distraction
- 31:12Speaker 3: and they're trying to attack the lawyer's credibility, trying to
- 31:16Speaker 3: go after anything they can to prolong what will eventually
- 31:20Speaker 3: likely be a trial that they're going to throw anything
- 31:24Speaker 3: that they can to really distract everyone, to just deny, deny, deny,
- 31:28Speaker 3: go for credibility and hope that something sticks and gets
- 31:33Speaker 3: him off on a technicality.
- 31:34Speaker 6: This is very common of psychopaths to use projection and
- 31:38Speaker 6: put everything off on everyone else and gas lighting. You know,
- 31:42Speaker 6: look at how the victim's really not credible and they're
- 31:45Speaker 6: everything everyone. That's what they're good at is blaming to defer,
- 31:52Speaker 6: looking at their own client.
- 31:54Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and yes, Bernardo Vilona, and I want to
- 31:58Speaker 1: hear from you and from Brown from sas BERNARDA. I mean,
- 32:03Speaker 1: any good prosecutor has been threatened with getting thrown off
- 32:07Speaker 1: the case, taken off the case, prosecutorial misconduct, blah blah
- 32:11Speaker 1: blah blah blah. I mean, if you've tried cases, they're
- 32:15Speaker 1: going to come after you because they're between a rock
- 32:18Speaker 1: and heartspot and they'll do anything. They'll even say their
- 32:21Speaker 1: own lawyer, who's swent blood, sweat and tears for them,
- 32:25Speaker 1: they'll say he he, she is ineffective because there's nowhere
- 32:29Speaker 1: else to go. So I'm not surprised at all the
- 32:32Speaker 1: victims lawyers are being attacked.
- 32:34Speaker 5: I'm not surprised that the victim's lawyer being attacked.
- 32:36Speaker 4: However, Nancy, let's be clear in this case, who gave
- 32:41Speaker 4: Diddy and his attorneys the attack is a federal district
- 32:44Speaker 4: court judge.
- 32:45Speaker 5: This is Judge Denise Colet.
- 32:47Speaker 10: Who plainly said that she has great concern and pause
- 32:52Speaker 10: in this attorney Tybrone Blackburn, because he has filed in
- 32:55Speaker 10: at least five different federal cases, some cases that have
- 32:59Speaker 10: insufficient and that supposedly she said that Blackburn has a
- 33:04Speaker 10: history of bringing these cases for social publicity to get
- 33:10Speaker 10: a money grab.
- 33:11Speaker 4: So that's why a federal district court judge we're talking
- 33:15Speaker 4: about a judge here is the one who made the
- 33:17Speaker 4: complaint to the Bar Committee, to the Bar Association. So
- 33:22Speaker 4: in terms of normally you hear about attorneys being attacked,
- 33:25Speaker 4: judges being attacked, But when you have a judge saying
- 33:28Speaker 4: this about an attorney, I think we have to look
- 33:31Speaker 4: at it even more clearly and give it some more weight.
- 33:35Speaker 4: And remember this is also the same district court judge
- 33:39Speaker 4: in the same district where these lawsuits have been filed.
- 33:42Speaker 1: I want to be clear that the order the judges
- 33:47Speaker 1: filed against the alleged victims lawyer lawyer Blackburn was about
- 33:51Speaker 1: an entirely separate case. It's just bubble back up into
- 33:57Speaker 1: the media consciousness because that lawyer Blackburn is also representing
- 34:02Speaker 1: some of Diddy's alleged victims. Now Judge Coates ruling happened
- 34:09Speaker 1: as it relates to a case about a year ago,
- 34:12Speaker 1: a legal malpractice lawsuit that Blackburn filed last year, and
- 34:19Speaker 1: he was referred to a grievance committee then for the
- 34:22Speaker 1: Southern District of New York. But now Bernarda everybody's talking
- 34:27Speaker 1: about it because he's also representing spc's alleged victims.
- 34:32Speaker 11: Yes, Tyrone Blackburn, who has huge credibility issues in that
- 34:36Speaker 11: Southern District, in that federal district courthouse where he's now
- 34:39Speaker 11: filed these two lawsuits, having to deal with Sean Puffy Colms.
- 34:43Speaker 5: It's a big issue.
- 34:44Speaker 4: If he's really looking to do what's in the best
- 34:47Speaker 4: entrance of his clients, of the victims of the complainants,
- 34:51Speaker 4: he should step aside and allow somebody else to represent
- 34:54Speaker 4: him because he has huge credibility issues. And while we're
- 34:57Speaker 4: talking about the Southern District in dot court, attorney's talk,
- 35:01Speaker 4: judges talk, and his credibility is on the line. You're
- 35:05Speaker 4: talking about this order that's been placed a year before
- 35:09Speaker 4: anything came out, having to deal with Puffy, and here
- 35:12Speaker 4: we have him at the center stage with these two laws.
- 35:16Speaker 5: WIT's having to deal with Sean Puffy Culms.
- 35:18Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, Bernarda Violona. You can find Bernanda
- 35:22Speaker 1: at vilonalaw dot com. BERNARDA. I don't know that I
- 35:26Speaker 1: agree with everything that you said, but I can tell
- 35:28Speaker 1: you this much. If these cases go in front of
- 35:31Speaker 1: a jury, you think the jury's going to hear from
- 35:34Speaker 1: attorney Blackbird. No, they're not. It's the alleged victim's credibility
- 35:39Speaker 1: that matters, not the lawyers. If the victims are telling
- 35:44Speaker 1: the truth, bam, the jury's not going to hear about
- 35:48Speaker 1: a grievance file in another case against the lawyer.
- 35:54Speaker 5: But yes, Nancy.
- 35:56Speaker 1: In the last days, new video has emerged, new footage
- 36:01Speaker 1: of the searches of Comes' home, and we're learning a
- 36:05Speaker 1: lot Pumelin and security investigators searching with drones with weapons
- 36:12Speaker 1: pulled automatic weapons inside comes His home. What does that
- 36:19Speaker 1: mean to you, Bernardo, that.
- 36:20Speaker 12: Whatever that probable cause affidavit stated, it's stated they it
- 36:24Speaker 12: gave him great pause, that whoever is inside of the
- 36:28Speaker 12: house is armed, that there are weapons there that law
- 36:31Speaker 12: enforcement needs to proceed with caution for them to have
- 36:35Speaker 12: gone through the level of having.
- 36:37Speaker 5: Armed, armed officers marshals to go to that house.
- 36:40Speaker 4: Not even that, but how about that armored vehicle that
- 36:43Speaker 4: pulled up to the mansion in order to execute that
- 36:46Speaker 4: search warrant. So I'm curious to see what isn't that
- 36:49Speaker 4: affidavit that allowed them to come in full force like
- 36:54Speaker 4: that to execute a search warrant at Ditty's home.
- 36:57Speaker 1: That is Bernardo vi Alona, correct, the former prosecutor turned
- 37:00Speaker 1: defense attorney who's very familiar with the incident in ninety
- 37:04Speaker 1: nine when Sean Puffy Comes aka Diddy and his hitch
- 37:09Speaker 1: people shot up a nightclub and he and Jennifer Lopez
- 37:14Speaker 1: aka j Lo were hauleded to the police precinct. Guns
- 37:19Speaker 1: remember bang bang, And as a matter of fact, guns
- 37:23Speaker 1: were found in comes his homes. You darn't right. They're
- 37:27Speaker 1: wearing body armor and they're armed, and they're using drones.
- 37:33Speaker 1: This guy has more money than all of those agents
- 37:37Speaker 1: and you and me put together. I don't know what
- 37:40Speaker 1: kind of gun stash he's got or what's going on
- 37:43Speaker 1: in that home. If I were going that home on
- 37:45Speaker 1: a search I would be wearing a helmet and body armor. Two,
- 37:49Speaker 1: I would use a drone too. I mean it's not
- 37:51Speaker 1: in common. Barry Golden, formerly with the US Marshall Service,
- 37:55Speaker 1: what about it.
- 37:56Speaker 8: They did exactly what they're supposed to. That is standard
- 37:59Speaker 8: up rating procedure. You go in heavy, you go in
- 38:03Speaker 8: armed with body armor ready. They brought in the armored
- 38:06Speaker 8: vehicles just in case you don't want to pull up
- 38:08Speaker 8: in front of a residence and all of a sudden
- 38:10Speaker 8: somebody walks out and starts shooting at you. So law
- 38:12Speaker 8: enforcement is taking a safety approach. They go in heavy, command,
- 38:16Speaker 8: the control their then allegations of excessive force. I didn't
- 38:20Speaker 8: see an excessive force there. The sons were brought out,
- 38:23Speaker 8: they were searched, their hands were put behind their head. Okay,
- 38:28Speaker 8: you even saw the agents just put their hands on
- 38:32Speaker 8: one of the Sun's head and walk them backwards. And
- 38:35Speaker 8: then yes, they were handcuffed outside. Just so everybody is safe.
- 38:40Speaker 8: Nobody does any stupid movements, nobody reaches for anything that
- 38:44Speaker 8: is standard operating for procedure for law enforcement. I've done
- 38:48Speaker 8: that so many times. I can't even tell you how
- 38:49Speaker 8: many times that is done by the FBI. HSI atf
- 38:53Speaker 8: US marshals and dea. That's what they do. I didn't
- 38:57Speaker 8: see any allegation of the session force. They did it
- 39:01Speaker 8: by the book, okay. And yes they use drones because
- 39:06Speaker 8: when you have allegations of guns in there, let's put
- 39:09Speaker 8: somebody that non human in there to give us eyes
- 39:13Speaker 8: on the inside of that property. Now we know what
- 39:15Speaker 8: we're going into, okay, and it's clear and it's safe.
- 39:19Speaker 8: And now law enforcement moves in there, command and control
- 39:23Speaker 8: control that home, and now you can search the entire
- 39:26Speaker 8: house without any problems with anybody.
- 39:27Speaker 1: Yeah, the last thing I want is another agent shot dead,
- 39:32Speaker 1: just affecting a search between various rap artists is an
- 39:37Speaker 1: ongoing feud erupting in violence. As a matter of fact.
- 39:42Speaker 1: Tokela Brandtley joining us from dailymail dot Com, sug Night
- 39:46Speaker 1: warning comes his quote life is in danger during a
- 39:52Speaker 1: prison call. Apparently should Night via the prison phone actually
- 39:59Speaker 1: does a podcast from behind bars and in that warns
- 40:03Speaker 1: Sean Puffy Comb's AKA Ditty his life is in danger.
- 40:07Speaker 1: What's that about?
- 40:08Speaker 3: Well, Shude Knight is behind bars and he was targeted
- 40:11Speaker 3: and eventually did end up in prison. So this is
- 40:15Speaker 3: just a warning to ditty that they will get you
- 40:19Speaker 3: if they want to get you as they did him,
- 40:21Speaker 3: and he's tying all these different cases to him. They're
- 40:25Speaker 3: tying the Tupac case to him because he does have
- 40:28Speaker 3: a history of guns, of drugs, of beef with these
- 40:32Speaker 3: other artists. So it's all culminating now in these cases
- 40:36Speaker 3: and these raids, and it's just a warning that he
- 40:39Speaker 3: can end up behind bars and his life is in danger.
- 40:41Speaker 1: The death Roareckers founder states quote, I tell you what, Puffy,
- 40:46Speaker 1: your life is in danger because you know the secrets
- 40:49Speaker 1: who's involved in that little secret room you guys are
- 40:53Speaker 1: participating in. That was from collect Call podcasts that he
- 40:59Speaker 1: actually records words over the phone from behind prison bars. Guys,
- 41:04Speaker 1: let's stop and remember American hero firefighter Adam Finnceth just forty,
- 41:11Speaker 1: the firefighter paramedic shot along with Officer Matthew Rouge and
- 41:16Speaker 1: Officer Paul Elmstrand. They were responding to a domestic violence call.
- 41:22Speaker 1: An Iraqi veteran finished two tours, survived by grieving wife
- 41:28Speaker 1: Tara and two children, Liam and Nora. American hero firefighter
- 41:36Speaker 1: Adam finn sth Thank you to all of our guests,
- 41:40Speaker 1: but especially to you for being with us, Nancy Gray
- 41:42Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,