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ITB: Why So Many New Faces On Eagles Practice Squad? · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back. What's going on, everybody? It's
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Speaker 1: Jeff Mosher and Adam Kaplan. And as promised, in the
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Speaker 1: middle of the week, the Eagles are done filling out
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Speaker 1: their practice squad. We want to give you the most
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Speaker 1: top-notch intel we have on everybody who the Eagles have
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Speaker 1: added to their practice squad. Now, again, they can still
0:28
Speaker 1: make some moves as we get closer, but this is
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Speaker 1: what they've got for now. First, Adam, we'll go through
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Speaker 1: a few guys today.
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Speaker 2: They lost.
0:35
Speaker 1: And now, you know, Howie, I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: heard all of his press conference, but he did seem
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Speaker 1: to regress or express some remorse for, you know, guys
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Speaker 1: who they wanted to develop who they lost. You know,
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Speaker 1: Cam Lott, who's in New England, Kapina Grushikian, the defensive back,
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Speaker 1: went to the Colts through waivers. Cam Williams, the offensive tackle,
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Speaker 1: and Miles Hinton, who was guard tackle, he went to
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Speaker 1: the Bengals.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just part of it. There's only so much you
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Speaker 3: can do. There's only so much you can do. But
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Speaker 3: there's a saying in the National Football League, anyone you waive,
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Speaker 3: you're willing to lose. And that's what happened. Guys got claimed.
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Speaker 3: They had four players claimed off waivers, which is interesting
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Speaker 3: because was it last year they didn't have any?
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Speaker 2: Correct. I don't think they had any.
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Speaker 1: They held on to so many of those young guys. Remember,
1:20
Speaker 1: they held on to so many of them, right? They
1:22
Speaker 1: held on to Hinton. They held on to a lot
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Speaker 1: of players they knew weren't going to play to see
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Speaker 1: that second year of development through to see if it stuck.
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Speaker 3: Truth be told, Latu struggled. He didn't have a good
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Speaker 3: training camp. Hinton struggled. That's so much so that they
1:34
Speaker 3: crushed him in the guard. He's not a guard. As
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Speaker 3: we told folks a year ago, that was a mistake.
1:39
Speaker 3: Cam Williams had that nice game in 18 against the Commandos.
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Speaker 3: He didn't have a great camp. I did not think
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Speaker 3: he'd return. We'll never know for sure because he got claimed.
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Speaker 3: And then Gushikin, you know, I was looking at the
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Speaker 3: Colts situation. they could use a backup nickel backup safety,
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Speaker 3: which he is. He actually may stick for a while. So,
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Speaker 3: but look at that. And he, he's an elite special
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Speaker 3: teams coverage player and he had that great play. It
2:04
Speaker 3: was in training camp. He was a demon. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You can see it right away.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it happens, man. But man, they,
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Speaker 3: they're the guys that they signed on Tuesday. Very intriguing,
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Speaker 3: very intriguing, which we'll get to. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I got some, I've talked to some people around the league,
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Speaker 1: got some good feedback on, on a few. Also, Guys
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Speaker 1: that they lost to other teams' practice squad, not waiver claims.
2:28
Speaker 1: Jose Ramirez wound up signing with the Patriots. And Stone
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Speaker 1: Smart thought he might be back on the Eagles practice squad,
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Speaker 1: but he wound up with the New Orleans Saints. So
2:39
Speaker 1: that brings us to the Eagles practice squad. Now the
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Speaker 1: tight end picture is going to look pretty interesting here, Adam, right?
2:45
Speaker 1: Because EJ Jenkins is on the 53 and Grant Calcutta
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Speaker 1: is injured. And then they kept, of course, Jenkins, and
2:53
Speaker 1: they kept Stowers and Goddard and Mutt. So it would
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see what they do at that position.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little surprised. I understand it's very early.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've got 17 weeks to address it, but
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Speaker 3: they really need to. When we look at remaining needs,
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Speaker 3: and we'll talk more about that later this week. We're
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Speaker 3: doing a show that's going to be devoted to that.
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Speaker 3: Tight end is absolutely a need. They need to upgrade
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Speaker 3: just the talent level in terms of depth. Mm-hmm. And
3:17
Speaker 3: that's something that you get concerned about it. And I
3:19
Speaker 3: understand it's next to impossible to find a guy does both. Yep. That's, that's,
3:23
Speaker 3: you know, that's always the, the hundred dollar question. Can
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Speaker 3: you find somebody could do both? And those guys are just,
3:29
Speaker 3: you just don't find them out of the sky.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: But it's kind of like running back. Can you find
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Speaker 3: a guy who could block on third down and also
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Speaker 3: could run with explosion? Good luck. Good luck finding those guys.
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Speaker 3: Hard to do. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So I found that their practice squad additions to me, Adam,
3:44
Speaker 1: they did do a nice job as they typically do,
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Speaker 1: especially with their roster tango. They've got some guys who,
3:49
Speaker 1: if the Eagles get injured injuries, you know, who can
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Speaker 1: come in and play right away. They also have some
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Speaker 1: guys who I think are really good future guys to
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Speaker 1: have and develop and you want them in your camp.
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Speaker 1: next year and learning your system and you see what
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Speaker 1: happens to it. But in terms of like running back,
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Speaker 1: for example, Damian Pierce, Carson steel, they had good camps
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Speaker 1: for the Eagles. Pierce got hurt, but when he did play,
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Speaker 1: you know, he looked pretty good as an inside runner,
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Speaker 1: explosive runner. These are guys who, if the Eagles got
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Speaker 1: hit with some injuries could come in and play right away.
4:18
Speaker 1: I mean, you're not happy about it, but that's what
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Speaker 1: they're there for.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, Pierce has had extensive experience. He did
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Speaker 3: early in his career. Then he just, his career cratered
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Speaker 3: because he's really, As we said when he signed, the
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Speaker 3: word from scouting around the league, we were told, was
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Speaker 3: not a really good fit for zone running, more straight
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Speaker 3: ahead runner. But he did some good things in training camp,
4:41
Speaker 3: got hurt. He was not going to make the team anyway.
4:43
Speaker 3: He was not going to beat a Will Shipley. Shipley,
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Speaker 3: his final two weeks in training camp were probably the
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Speaker 3: two best weeks he's had in terms of training camp
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Speaker 3: in its three years. But they're stacked in terms of
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Speaker 3: practice squad depth at that position. So, you know, we'll,
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Speaker 3: you know, your hope is if you're, and by the way,
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Speaker 3: all three guys that they have on there, we'll get
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Speaker 3: to the new guy. We all could return kicks if
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Speaker 3: need be. Right.
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Speaker 1: Right. And, you know, Pierce, we've talked about how he
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Speaker 1: was not a great fit for the wide zone scheme,
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Speaker 1: and he is not. But the one thing we've observed
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Speaker 1: at training camp and the preseason is it's not like
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Speaker 1: they're going through an 80% wide zone offense. They're still
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Speaker 1: running plenty up the middle. You can even run zone
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Speaker 1: up the middle, which they have done quite a bit of. So, again,
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Speaker 1: if he had to play, if he's on the 53
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they can tailor some runs to him
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Speaker 1: to fit his strong suit because that was the Eagles'
5:36
Speaker 1: strong suit for him. for years now running.
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Speaker 3: Up the middle. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see, we'll see
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Speaker 3: what happens. But look, obviously if no one's hurt, these
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Speaker 3: guys aren't going to almost certain not to be activated. Right.
5:49
Speaker 3: Typically you could find someone who could return kicks on
5:52
Speaker 3: your 53. Typically. I didn't say always. Typically you can.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: That shakes out.
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Speaker 1: So the other guy though is really fascinating and it's
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Speaker 1: Jadon blue who was cut after one year with the
6:04
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a fifth round pick. Last year,
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Speaker 1: I recall us doing a scouting show on running backs
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Speaker 1: with Greg Cosell. And what Greg said about Jadon Blue was,
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Speaker 1: and he said it very carefully, is that Texas used
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Speaker 1: him in the passing game, weaponized him in a way,
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Speaker 1: because he's very explosive, in a way that is similar
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Speaker 1: to how the Lions weaponized Jameer Gibbs in the passing game.
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Speaker 1: And I say this very slowly to make sure everybody understands.
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Speaker 1: Greg never said that Jadon Blue was comparable to or
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Speaker 1: as good of a talent as Jameer Gibbs. He was
6:45
Speaker 1: talking about the way a team.
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Speaker 2: Can use a player.
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Speaker 1: But he also came with some, as we found out,
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Speaker 1: you know, just talking to teams, came with some maturity issues.
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Speaker 1: And he was in the doghouse early last year with Dallas.
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Speaker 1: And I swear for like two weeks this summer, Adam,
7:01
Speaker 1: it seemed like the vibes coming out or what you
7:03
Speaker 1: would read coming out of, of Dallas, you would see
7:05
Speaker 1: him getting more reps and the coaches were speaking well
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Speaker 1: about him, but then that just went, you know, we've
7:10
Speaker 1: seen that a lot from two weeks of camp and
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Speaker 1: how it changes as it goes on.
7:14
Speaker 3: They love Malik Davis. Who's an undirected free agent. The
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Speaker 3: Cowboys do. It wasn't when I was told he wasn't close. Right. He,
7:21
Speaker 3: the final couple of weeks, it was a, it was
7:24
Speaker 3: a one horse race, so to speak. Davis clearly beat
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Speaker 3: him out. And, and, Blue had major character concerns in
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Speaker 3: terms of maturity. Coaches don't trust him, despite the obvious talent.
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Speaker 3: In fact, I was told he would have gone in
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Speaker 3: the third round, not even past that, had teams trusted him.
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Speaker 3: But Cowboys will take risks on character. They've done a lot.
7:44
Speaker 3: There's a saying in the National Football League, you either
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Speaker 3: have one or two, but you can't have six or
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Speaker 3: seven of them. That's been the problem with the Cowboys
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Speaker 3: for years. They miss on football character. Howie doesn't very much.
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Speaker 3: He's really good at it. And also their infrastructure is
7:56
Speaker 3: better than the Cowboys. They have a way of understanding
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Speaker 3: through player programs, good veterans, good coaching who could reach players.
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Speaker 3: And Jadon Blue, his final year at Texas, his numbers
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Speaker 3: were phenomenal. In terms of the pass game, really about
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Speaker 3: nine yards to catch, 42 receptions. And he just, about 1,100
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Speaker 3: total yards in scrimmage. Not much of a kickoff return.
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Speaker 3: Really didn't do it. He only had three in college.
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Speaker 3: He can do it. I mean, he can do it,
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Speaker 3: but that's really not what he does. Didn't do any punts.
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Speaker 3: But he's explosive. And you know what? Sometimes guys get
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Speaker 3: a shock to their system. He was waived, not claimed,
8:37
Speaker 3: which probably I would be insulted if I'm him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And then a team in the same division says, you
8:42
Speaker 3: know what? We'll take a chance on him. It's only
8:43
Speaker 3: on the practice squad. It doesn't cost him anything. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So you see what happens and you take a chance. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, that's the best part about him being
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Speaker 2: on the practice squad. If the Eagles.
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Speaker 1: find out early that things haven't changed with him that
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Speaker 1: they don't like him on the in the locker room
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Speaker 1: that he's a distraction or something to maturity issues then
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Speaker 1: they can just cut him and no big deal on
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Speaker 1: the other hand you know they've had some guys you
9:06
Speaker 1: know you take a guy like um gabe hall who
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Speaker 1: came out with some maturity concerns and i you know
9:12
Speaker 1: he hasn't made the team but you can tell he's
9:14
Speaker 1: a much more improved player if the eagles weren't so
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Speaker 1: deep at defensive tackle He probably would have made the 53.
9:20
Speaker 1: You know, he lit a fire under his butt and
9:21
Speaker 1: something happened there.
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Speaker 3: And that was it. Yeah. With Gabe Hall, it was
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Speaker 3: just energy, passion for the job. And sometimes, you know,
9:31
Speaker 3: that's why he wasn't drafted because you really it's hard
9:32
Speaker 3: to coach that. Yeah. But there's some really good interviews.
9:37
Speaker 3: I believe the Eagles website put it up after maybe
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Speaker 3: after the first year. I just saw this interview. He
9:43
Speaker 3: was so good explaining how they handled him here in Philly.
9:49
Speaker 3: And his, he just, I don't know if it was
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Speaker 3: Clint Hurt reaching him, but man, we've seen it, but
9:56
Speaker 3: the problem is depth and he's a tweener. He's not
9:58
Speaker 3: an edge rusher. He's not a, He's just long, and
10:02
Speaker 3: he started plying himself. But as you said, you've got
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Speaker 3: Ty Robinson, and Byron Young has been a great find
10:07
Speaker 3: off waivers. You're not making the team. They don't need
10:09
Speaker 3: 60 tackles. They don't.
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Speaker 2: Correct, correct.
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Speaker 1: And so there's some benefit of development if you, because
10:16
Speaker 1: he certainly, and now we're talking about Jadon Bluey, certainly
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Speaker 1: an explosive player. And the Eagles like explosive players, and
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Speaker 1: we've talked ad nausea throughout the offseason about what does
10:26
Speaker 1: the Eagles' running.
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Speaker 2: Back room look like after 2026? It could be Saquon's
10:31
Speaker 2: last year.
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Speaker 1: Will Shipley will enter the final year of his– he's
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Speaker 1: a different– I mean, he's a pass-catching back, but he's
10:36
Speaker 1: got to prove himself this year. Bigsby, I believe this
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Speaker 1: is the final year of his deal, right, Bigsby?
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Speaker 2: It is.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so why not try to have somebody who has–
10:45
Speaker 1: developmental skills has explosion can give you an element and
10:48
Speaker 1: see if it works out for you a year down
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Speaker 1: the road.
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Speaker 2: But Adam, there's also the idea that when you're running
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Speaker 2: a practice squad, right? I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: I look team this year. You're going to face some,
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Speaker 1: some opponents who have pretty good pass catching backs. In fact,
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Speaker 1: week one commanders, they're going to throw the ball to
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Speaker 1: Rashad white. Cause that's all Rashad white has been. He's
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Speaker 1: not explosive.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no. I know. I know.
11:10
Speaker 2: But Jacksonville, who's that guy? Who's your second year guy
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Speaker 2: who has explosion tootin?
11:15
Speaker 3: But with Washington, Krosky-Merritt is explosive. He's just not physical.
11:20
Speaker 3: That's why they wanted Rashad White, as I understand it. Right.
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Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, week three, right? Explosive back. Yeah, yeah.
11:26
Speaker 1: So he gives you that element because you're not going
11:28
Speaker 1: to get that out of Damian Pearson. Even Carson still
11:31
Speaker 1: catches the ball well, but he's not going to give
11:32
Speaker 1: you an explosive moment.
11:34
Speaker 2: No juice.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So this guy could help you on the look team
11:36
Speaker 2: as long as he's doing his roles.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, look, if something happened to Shipley, he was out
11:40
Speaker 3: four to six weeks. If they're happy with Blue, that's
11:44
Speaker 3: the guy. If he's doing what he's supposed to do. Yep.
11:47
Speaker 3: He's got so much juice, explosion. And I remember Greg saying, like,
11:52
Speaker 3: he was an intriguing player. He knew about the character stuff, too.
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Speaker 3: In fact, he actually mentioned it on our show. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And he asked me, he said, what do you know?
11:59
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, that's true. Yeah. And then, unfortunately, you know,
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys didn't want him. But here you go. Let's
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Speaker 3: see what happens.
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Speaker 2: There you go. All right.
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Speaker 1: Covey wide receiver, punt returner. It wouldn't surprise me if
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Speaker 1: he was elevated week one, week two early on as
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Speaker 1: a punt returner. Cause as you mentioned, I think in
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Speaker 1: the last pot, he's far and away the best and
12:17
Speaker 1: most accomplished punt runner turner that they have.
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Speaker 3: He's a joystick. Like he's got good vision. He's just small. Yeah.
12:23
Speaker 3: He looks like a pinball machine when he gets hit,
12:25
Speaker 3: but he bounces off contact. And you know what, four
12:29
Speaker 3: years ago, it's phenomenal. But as a punt returner, you're,
12:32
Speaker 3: Special teams coaches have told me over the years, their
12:34
Speaker 3: goal is 10 yards. You're looking for 10 yards of return. Right.
12:37
Speaker 3: That's what you like or more.
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Speaker 2: And he's been doing that.
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, he's really good at it.
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Speaker 2: All right. So that's an obvious one.
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Speaker 1: Jake Majors and John Ajukwu, the tackle and the interior
12:48
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that were with them at camp.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure they pushed for spots. There wasn't enough room.
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Speaker 1: We both felt, even though I had Ajukwu on my 53,
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Speaker 1: I felt like they could get him through.
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Speaker 3: I did not. Yeah, I did not. Yeah. I just
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Speaker 3: felt like– Yeah, I felt that as much as they'd
13:05
Speaker 3: like to keep him, I'm trying to think like a
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Speaker 3: GM or a personnel guy. What are the chances? Because
13:14
Speaker 3: the tape in training camp preseason was okay. He also
13:17
Speaker 3: had the minor injury, the pectoral injury. But it was
13:21
Speaker 3: really in practice in training camp, and OTs would go, oh,
13:24
Speaker 3: this is interesting. And he did have starting experience with
13:25
Speaker 3: the Titans. But I felt like they can get away
13:28
Speaker 3: with it and cut him. And he went through waivers,
13:31
Speaker 3: and he's back. So Juku is a guy, remember, they
13:33
Speaker 3: cross-trained him at guard. He did a little bit of guard.
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Speaker 3: So that, to me, when you look at needs, that
13:44
Speaker 3: could help him as he tries to develop on the
13:46
Speaker 3: practice squad. This is a big thing for Chris Cooper,
13:49
Speaker 3: by the way, because he does not have a great
13:51
Speaker 3: history of developing players. Now, they had a great offseason
13:55
Speaker 3: of development with these young offensive linemen. Lampkin, great story.
13:58
Speaker 3: Drew Kendall took another step. Other guys, so there's like
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Speaker 3: four or five guys, developmental standpoint, that I know they
14:06
Speaker 3: haven't played other than Ken on a regular season game,
14:08
Speaker 3: but at least you saw some good stuff in training
14:10
Speaker 3: camp and the preseason.
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Speaker 1: code BIRDS. At this time next year, we could be
17:27
Speaker 1: talking about Tyler Steen being gone, Landon Dickerson, who knows?
17:31
Speaker 2: He could be retired, right? You could be talking about
17:32
Speaker 2: Kendall already being– And Lane, too, right? Yeah.
17:37
Speaker 1: You could talk about Bell and Kendall already being starters
17:41
Speaker 1: and then still needing to find now depth, now two
17:43
Speaker 1: guys of depth. So that's why it makes sense. You've
17:46
Speaker 1: got majors there to continue to develop. You've got a Juku. And, Adam,
17:49
Speaker 1: they bring in a guy who's really interesting, right? A
17:52
Speaker 1: former Bears offensive lineman from Yale, right?
17:56
Speaker 2: Of all places.
17:57
Speaker 3: Yale.
17:57
Speaker 2: How many guys in the Ivy League are in the NFL?
17:59
Speaker 2: Not too many, right?
18:00
Speaker 3: Oh, the linebacker that was making a lot of money
18:03
Speaker 3: formerly of the Jaguars.
18:08
Speaker 2: Oh, I can never pronounce his name.
18:10
Speaker 3: Oluokun. Oluokun, yeah.
18:12
Speaker 2: Oluokun, yeah.
18:13
Speaker 1: And then he started for the Bengals, right?
18:15
Speaker 2: Isn't Yoshevis from... Yeah, Yoshi's from Princeton.
18:18
Speaker 3: Princeton, yeah. But.
18:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kiran Amadjidi, he is.
18:25
Speaker 3: an athletic left tackle and he was a fourth rounder
18:30
Speaker 3: i believe for a couple couple years ago and that's
18:33
Speaker 3: usually third round a third rounder yeah yeah and he
18:36
Speaker 3: just never made it had some injuries he wasn't the
18:40
Speaker 3: bear he wasn't what the bears thought they were getting
18:42
Speaker 3: when they drafted him yep they respected more out of
18:44
Speaker 3: him it didn't happen but the guy's talented and this
18:47
Speaker 3: is one now.
18:50
Speaker 1: I mean, he's big and athletic. I think we have
18:52
Speaker 1: to find out if he's talented. There's a difference there.
18:55
Speaker 3: Well, no, but there was a lot of upside with him.
18:57
Speaker 3: But the question is, the question with him is, can
19:02
Speaker 3: they cross-train him to play right tackle? I'm just looking
19:07
Speaker 3: at potential.
19:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you would like with that athleticism, though, for
19:10
Speaker 1: him to maybe be a backup left tackle.
19:12
Speaker 3: Yes, but you know what? The Eagles have a history. Now,
19:17
Speaker 3: I know Stout's no longer here. He didn't– most were
19:22
Speaker 3: two positional players that they would draft. They liked to
19:25
Speaker 3: cross-train guys. Guard center, tackle guard, right left tackle. They
19:31
Speaker 3: had a history of doing that. That's why I'm curious
19:33
Speaker 3: to see what they have in mind for him, but
19:35
Speaker 3: we'll see.
19:36
Speaker 2: All right, we will.
19:38
Speaker 1: This is one of those things, though, where it's a–
19:40
Speaker 1: as someone from another team told me, it's good to
19:43
Speaker 1: poach guys from other teams and bring them in, especially
19:48
Speaker 1: if they have some NFL experience.
19:50
Speaker 2: Especially if you think they're moldable.
19:51
Speaker 1: So this is a guy that you're hoping next year,
19:55
Speaker 1: after a full year of development and a real OTAs
19:58
Speaker 1: and a real training camp, you find something in.
20:01
Speaker 2: And if it is, put the feather in your cap.
20:03
Speaker 3: Before we move on, listen to these elite traits in
20:06
Speaker 3: terms of measurables. Six, five, and three A's. 323 at
20:10
Speaker 3: the comment, 36 in an eighth arm, which is huge.
20:14
Speaker 3: 85 and a half wingspan, which is massive. Hands aren't
20:18
Speaker 3: as big as you'd like at nine and five eighths.
20:19
Speaker 3: No big deal there, but he's got ideal length and
20:23
Speaker 3: he's a developmental player. I just like, I like the direction.
20:27
Speaker 3: Cause I look at 2020 and the disaster of that
20:29
Speaker 3: draft and other than Hertz, of course. And before that,
20:35
Speaker 3: It was really Milata in 2018, but they were not
20:38
Speaker 3: doing real well as developmental offensive linemen. They're off to
20:42
Speaker 3: a rousing start of 2026. All of a sudden, they've
20:46
Speaker 3: got five or six guys you go, wow, this is
20:49
Speaker 3: going to be really fascinating.
20:50
Speaker 2: For sure.
20:51
Speaker 1: And to round it out on offense, because he can't
20:53
Speaker 1: go away, Danny Gray comes back to the practice squad.
20:57
Speaker 3: Back again.
20:57
Speaker 2: Got to have a former 49er. You know that. I mean,
21:00
Speaker 2: it's been a rough.
21:01
Speaker 1: Cam Latu's gone. Castro Fields is hurt. Um, and any
21:05
Speaker 1: other of those former, Oh, Ambry Thomas got, got, uh,
21:08
Speaker 1: I guess got released, right? That wasn't a wave that
21:10
Speaker 1: was released. So, I mean, you know, I always got
21:13
Speaker 1: to have some kind of former 49ers, uh, on the,
21:15
Speaker 1: on the total 69 there.
21:16
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's, uh, he's back and he still has
21:19
Speaker 2: that speed.
21:21
Speaker 3: He could run. Yeah. He could run. Arquez O'Connor was
21:24
Speaker 3: not brought back. You mentioned. So start Michael Jordan. No,
21:26
Speaker 3: that Michael Jordan, this Michael Jordan. Yeah. And quads, of
21:29
Speaker 3: course they can't quit quads. Well, they have temporarily at least.
21:33
Speaker 3: He was not re-signed as of Tuesday.
21:36
Speaker 2: All right, let's transition over to defense. And by the way,
21:39
Speaker 2: for those who are wondering.
21:41
Speaker 1: Adam did beat me in the 53-man challenge.
21:43
Speaker 2: You did great, man. 51 out of 53. Is that right? Well, no,
21:47
Speaker 2: but I.
21:47
Speaker 3: Had Covey on it. That was a miss. I had...
21:51
Speaker 3: You got Covey and....
21:56
Speaker 2: Who was the other guy that was a miss?
21:57
Speaker 1: Didn't you have one of the two African exchange students
21:59
Speaker 1: as Vic calls him on?
22:00
Speaker 2: I think you had Bernard.
22:01
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. You were on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:03
Speaker 2: That was it. That was your only two mistakes.
22:06
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did I have MacBook Williams on or off? I
22:08
Speaker 3: had him on.
22:09
Speaker 2: You had him on. You had him on.
22:10
Speaker 3: I did.
22:10
Speaker 2: Okay. Yeah.
22:11
Speaker 3: Wow. Dumb mistake I made with Covey. Well, I knew
22:14
Speaker 3: he was going to be here. I would have bet
22:15
Speaker 3: the house he'd be here. Right. I actually said it
22:17
Speaker 3: then where I him and hot. I'm like, well, he's
22:19
Speaker 3: going to be on the 69 man roster. There's no
22:20
Speaker 3: way they're walking away. He's an excellent punt returner. Backup slot.
22:24
Speaker 3: He's just super small.
22:27
Speaker 1: I had 49, by the way, so you beat me
22:29
Speaker 1: by two. Good job by you. Let's get into the defensive, guys.
22:33
Speaker 1: We just mentioned that Uar Bernard is with the practice squad.
22:37
Speaker 1: So is the other IPP player, and that's Joshua Rue.
22:41
Speaker 1: So good job by Howie, realizing that it wasn't that
22:44
Speaker 1: risky to expose them to waivers. They're both back on
22:46
Speaker 1: the practice squad, along with Gabe Hall, who we also mentioned.
22:50
Speaker 2: And that's good, man. The Eagles are... Eagles are really
22:53
Speaker 2: good at the interior defensive line.
22:55
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a team that's deeper and
22:59
Speaker 3: more talented. Chance Campbell, he was actually a vested veteran,
23:04
Speaker 3: so they knew they could get him because they just
23:06
Speaker 3: worked with the agent and said, hey, listen, we're going
23:08
Speaker 3: to cut him, but we want him back. Keyshawn James
23:10
Speaker 3: Newby was not claimed, so he's back. Mason Riger, he
23:17
Speaker 3: was actually an undirected free agent signed by the Dolphins'
23:19
Speaker 3: Wade Vinger. He cleared and the Eagles signed him. And
23:22
Speaker 3: he passed the physical. He was an NFL combine invitee.
23:27
Speaker 3: He actually has decent length, not a great athlete, but
23:30
Speaker 3: there's something there. And you mentioned Weber. That's the other edge. So, yeah.
23:35
Speaker 2: Pretty rare, by the way. On Riger, you said he
23:38
Speaker 2: did go to the combine.
23:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
23:40
Speaker 2: But he didn't get drafted, right?
23:42
Speaker 3: No, which is so rare.
23:43
Speaker 2: That's rare. Yeah.
23:45
Speaker 3: He didn't have great athletic testing. I was told that's
23:50
Speaker 3: part of a decent length. But yeah, it's, it's, it's
23:54
Speaker 3: interesting the way that they say that he had, Oh,
23:56
Speaker 3: I was also told they had, there were teams that
23:58
Speaker 3: had draftable grades on them, usually seven, but I know
24:01
Speaker 3: for a fact, there were some teams that had draftable
24:02
Speaker 3: grade on them, but nevertheless, he wasn't out drafted. And
24:05
Speaker 3: then rounding it out, Maximus Pulley, we expected back and
24:08
Speaker 3: call was Nesky is how you pronounce it. He's back.
24:12
Speaker 3: He passed their waivers unclaimed. This surprised me that Zion
24:16
Speaker 3: Wilson was not claimed.
24:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was surprised too.
24:19
Speaker 1: And then not even brought back, but, For now, but
24:22
Speaker 1: he could be later this week. But also, you've got
24:24
Speaker 1: Hall and Bernard. Although, you're not going to play Bernard ever,
24:28
Speaker 1: but you still have six pretty good DTs if you
24:32
Speaker 1: count the five who made it and gave Hall.
24:34
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it would have sort of been like
24:36
Speaker 2: a luxury thing.
24:37
Speaker 3: But also, I know some agents tell me that sometimes
24:41
Speaker 3: they have an offer to come back, but they go, hey,
24:43
Speaker 3: you know what? If you wouldn't mind, we want to
24:44
Speaker 3: kind of see what else is out there, and we'll
24:46
Speaker 3: get back to you by the end of the week.
24:47
Speaker 3: That's true. Because typically, they'll give him a deal and, hey,
24:49
Speaker 3: we need to know where we're going to go elsewhere.
24:51
Speaker 3: We're going to sign somebody else. Also, Deontay Lawson was
24:55
Speaker 3: still out there as of Tuesday afternoon. We'll see what
24:59
Speaker 3: happens with him. And Sean Wade and Ambry Thomas were cut.
25:03
Speaker 3: And Ramirez, you said, went to what, New England? That
25:05
Speaker 3: makes sense. With Harold Landry out. So yeah, they're really
25:10
Speaker 3: weak on depth at edge. So that makes sense. Right.
25:13
Speaker 1: So to round it out, really, I think the one
25:15
Speaker 1: thing that really sticks out to me from the whole
25:17
Speaker 1: squad is that there's no tight ends. And yet, The
25:20
Speaker 1: guy who's injured and Stowers, who's probably not going to
25:24
Speaker 1: contribute if he was even active early. So you're really
25:27
Speaker 1: just talking about Goddard, Munt, and EJ Jenkins. So it
25:31
Speaker 1: feels to me like that's an area, obviously, how he
25:34
Speaker 1: was asked about a Zach Ertz reunion.
25:35
Speaker 2: People have to remember, Zach Ertz is coming off an
25:37
Speaker 2: ACL injury.
25:39
Speaker 3: The second, we think.
25:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to see what kind of shape he's in.
25:42
Speaker 1: He's not going to just sign and play right away.
25:44
Speaker 1: I mean, you would have to ramp up.
25:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's very limited mobility. you'll love the character.
25:53
Speaker 3: It would be a great story if he could get
25:55
Speaker 3: in his career as an Eagle, but there's really no,
25:58
Speaker 3: he's not a blocker. They need someone who can block. Yeah.
26:00
Speaker 2: Plus they need someone now, I would think.
26:02
Speaker 1: I mean, right now is when you're not playing towers
26:05
Speaker 1: and you've got Calcaterra on IR.
26:06
Speaker 3: I wonder what they might want to do when he's ready.
26:09
Speaker 3: Maybe they work him out, see where he's at, get
26:11
Speaker 3: an idea.
26:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't shock me.
26:12
Speaker 1: And again, he's a good guy to have if you
26:14
Speaker 1: have him as a practice squad vet or if he
26:16
Speaker 1: eventually is on your 53 agreement. But like for right now,
26:20
Speaker 1: for the first four weeks of the season, the only
26:22
Speaker 1: playable tight ends they have are Goddard, Munt, and EJ Jenkins. Again,
26:30
Speaker 1: I'm presumptuous a little bit. I just can't see Stowers
26:32
Speaker 1: making any kind of impact early on for the first
26:35
Speaker 1: three weeks.
26:36
Speaker 2: Monty's just a blocker, right?
26:38
Speaker 1: And Jenkins, let's be honest, I mean, he's had a
26:40
Speaker 1: nice camp. You don't know what you're going to get
26:42
Speaker 1: out of him.
26:42
Speaker 3: He's very limited, yeah.
26:43
Speaker 2: So you're really thin there. I mean, you're sort of–
26:46
Speaker 2: They are.
26:47
Speaker 3: They've been the entire offseason. Remember, it's not about how
26:50
Speaker 3: many players you have. It's about the quality. They just
26:52
Speaker 3: were not good enough.
26:53
Speaker 1: Right.
26:53
Speaker 3: And it showed up in training camp. Jenkins has become
26:56
Speaker 3: a much better blocker, but he's still limited overall as
27:00
Speaker 3: a football player. Good for him that he's pushed for
27:05
Speaker 3: a roster spot. And for now, we'll see if he
27:07
Speaker 3: stays there. But they need a tight end on the
27:13
Speaker 3: practice squad. They really need a veteran. But the thing is,
27:17
Speaker 3: clubs have leverage here. They'll have their pick. And honestly...
27:22
Speaker 3: This is a good opportunity.
27:23
Speaker 2: We skipped one guy, too. I'm sorry. I didn't mean
27:26
Speaker 2: to interrupt you.
27:26
Speaker 1: Because the second position I was about to say was cornerback.
27:32
Speaker 1: We've talked about needing a veteran corner. Now, they didn't
27:34
Speaker 1: add a veteran corner, but I got some pretty good
27:37
Speaker 1: feedback from someone I know from the ASC on Robert Longerbeam,
27:42
Speaker 1: who's the corner that the Ravens cut. Remember, he actually
27:46
Speaker 1: had a good camp last year, pushed to make the team,
27:48
Speaker 1: but he got hurt. and then they're pretty good in
27:52
Speaker 1: the secondary this year. So he gets waived. The Eagles
27:55
Speaker 1: pick him up. Adam, he's 5'11, like 175 pounds. I
28:00
Speaker 1: think you probably have the measurables in front of you,
28:02
Speaker 1: but check his wingspan. All right, this guy's got longer
28:06
Speaker 1: arms than both Quinion Mitchell and Keeley Ringo.
28:09
Speaker 3: Really? Wow.
28:11
Speaker 1: Now, nobody's got longer arms than Rick Woolen, but this
28:13
Speaker 1: guy's got like a 6'4 wingspan, if I'm not mistaken.
28:17
Speaker 3: All right, Roger Longerbeam, 5'11. Arms are not long at all,
28:24
Speaker 3: 31 1⁄2. Wingspan is actually good at 76 1⁄2. Hands
28:29
Speaker 3: are very small.
28:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, 76, that's what it was.
28:31
Speaker 1: The wingspan was 76 1⁄2. That's longer than Mitchell's, I believe,
28:35
Speaker 1: and longer than Ringo's for a guy who's 5'11.
28:40
Speaker 3: His 40 was 4'3, not his 10-yard split was actually
28:44
Speaker 3: pretty good at 1.5, actually very good. Yeah. I also
28:48
Speaker 3: did the vert 36 and a half. Broad jump was
28:51
Speaker 3: good at 11-2. That's actually very good. So there's something there. Yeah,
28:55
Speaker 3: there's something there. And boy, do they need corners. And
28:57
Speaker 3: we'll see. He didn't play as a rookie because he
28:59
Speaker 3: was hurt. So we'll see where he's at.
29:02
Speaker 2: And remember, I believe Ja'Cory and Bennett is on IR
29:05
Speaker 2: at the moment also.
29:06
Speaker 3: Yep.
29:07
Speaker 2: So they'll have to make a decision.
29:09
Speaker 3: He had a rough training camp.
29:11
Speaker 2: He did.
29:12
Speaker 3: He absolutely did.
29:13
Speaker 2: Corner and tight end.
29:14
Speaker 1: That's sort of the positions that even with the practice
29:16
Speaker 1: squad additions, your tight end, let me say, corner and
29:21
Speaker 1: tight end depth is what you're concerned about.
29:24
Speaker 3: By the way, Roger Longerbeam's injury was devastating. He had
29:28
Speaker 3: a torn patella, which is worse than an ACL, and
29:33
Speaker 3: the rehab's longer. But it's not like what they really
29:38
Speaker 3: need is a veteran corner. They need a are a
29:41
Speaker 3: lower-end team when it comes to free agent workouts. I
29:45
Speaker 3: chart this stuff. They don't work on a lot of players.
29:47
Speaker 3: They're like bottom five. Well, it's typically because their roster
29:51
Speaker 3: is usually pretty good, but that doesn't mean you can't
29:53
Speaker 3: work players out as an emergency. They just choose not
29:55
Speaker 3: to do it. For whatever reason, I don't know why,
29:57
Speaker 3: but And again, you've got leverage here if you're close
30:01
Speaker 3: because these guys are going to be looking for jobs,
30:03
Speaker 3: the veterans. And you've got a team that since 21
30:07
Speaker 3: is parentally good. And why wouldn't you want a job
30:11
Speaker 3: with a team that's got a chance? And honestly, the
30:15
Speaker 3: quality of the fourth corner is not very good. So
30:18
Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. And Jonathan Jones, who knows if
30:20
Speaker 3: he'll stay in one piece? He's 33. Right.
30:23
Speaker 2: So, all right. That is a look at the practice squad.
30:27
Speaker 1: And next time you hear from us, we'll get even
30:30
Speaker 1: start to get into real regular season stuff. It's still
30:32
Speaker 1: weird that they had this whole extra week of practice
30:35
Speaker 1: before the season opener.
30:36
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's in between.
30:39
Speaker 3: It's like it's like very odd. I don't it feels
30:44
Speaker 3: like it's still training camp to me, but I'm just
30:46
Speaker 3: not going to camps. But Washington, I'm just going to
30:50
Speaker 3: give you an early word real quick here. They're severely
30:52
Speaker 3: beaten up. Oh, yeah. They got a lot of injuries.
30:55
Speaker 3: Their best corners on IR, Trey Amos. He was great
30:58
Speaker 3: before he got hurt last year. They got problems at corner.
31:01
Speaker 3: They got problems with their offensive line. Receiver depth not
31:04
Speaker 3: very good. Offensive line depth not very good. They spent
31:11
Speaker 3: a lot of money in free agency, a lot, because
31:13
Speaker 3: their roster wasn't very good. They were a bad football
31:15
Speaker 3: team last year. They were the oldest team in the NFL.
31:19
Speaker 3: Daniels is very talented. He had a great training camp.
31:23
Speaker 3: We'll see what Stefan Diggs has. But, man, this is
31:27
Speaker 3: a good time to be playing Washington because who the
31:29
Speaker 3: hell knows what.
31:30
Speaker 2: They're going to look like. You were there, right?
31:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. They destroyed the– I have to say
31:36
Speaker 3: the worst team I've ever seen in training camp in
31:39
Speaker 3: 27 years is the Dolphins. They were so bad. The
31:42
Speaker 3: talent level is beyond bad. They look like an expansion team.
31:47
Speaker 2: I can usually name any team.
31:49
Speaker 1: I can usually name at least 10 starters on any
31:52
Speaker 1: team every year. I'm not sure I could do that
31:54
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins.
31:55
Speaker 2: Look, I understand.
31:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that they made a choice that they're
32:00
Speaker 3: going to take huge cap hits and they couldn't be
32:02
Speaker 3: a big free agent player, okay, for at least one year.
32:05
Speaker 3: But you're bringing in Malik Willis. You're guaranteeing $ 44 million
32:10
Speaker 3: over two years. They split the guarantee over two years.
32:13
Speaker 3: So he's going to be their starter, theoretically, for two years.
32:16
Speaker 3: Could you help him out at receiver? Yeah. I mean,
32:19
Speaker 3: it's embarrassing. Like we were saying last week, Elijah Mitchell
32:24
Speaker 3: probably could be a number three receiver for them, if
32:26
Speaker 3: not start.
32:27
Speaker 2: For sure.
32:27
Speaker 3: I mean, right?
32:28
Speaker 1: I know Caleb Douglas for a third-round pick has been nice,
32:30
Speaker 1: and Josh Bell got off PUP earlier than they thought.
32:34
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Chris Bell.
32:35
Speaker 1: And then who's the one guy who actually, like Malik Washington?
32:38
Speaker 2: Isn't he like 5'8? Malik Washington.
32:40
Speaker 3: He's a gadget type of player. Caleb Douglas. Jalen Tolbert,
32:43
Speaker 3: who's okay. None of them are really true starters.
32:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. Folks, go get Greg Dulcich in your fantasy league,
32:51
Speaker 2: the tight end.
32:51
Speaker 3: Greg Dulcich, who's had the worst hamstring problems. He's a
32:56
Speaker 3: super big-time athlete. Incredibly hurt over his career. Like you said,
33:02
Speaker 3: for fantasy, someone's got to catch the ball.
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Speaker 1: a wrap on that. Oh, what I wanted to ask you,
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Speaker 1: did anybody, when you were in Washington, explain a good
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Speaker 1: reason for why they're not going to move Connerly to
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Speaker 1: left tackle?
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Speaker 2: Because he played there at Oregon, and he had an idea.
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Speaker 3: No, he had not played right tackle until he was drafted.
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Speaker 2: Right, I'm saying he played left tackle at Oregon.
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Speaker 3: Remember, Brandon Coleman was their starting left tackle as a rookie.
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Speaker 3: They knew it wasn't going to work, so out goes Coleman.
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Speaker 3: They made the trade for Tunsell. Yep. And then he,
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Speaker 3: you know, obviously he's going to be out through the
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Speaker 3: entire regular season. Cosme, you know, he didn't look great
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Speaker 3: last year. Come back from the ACL. He's, he's fine now.
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Speaker 2: That's good.
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Speaker 3: Chris Paul's a power. He's a power run blocker. Pass
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Speaker 3: protection is the challenge with him. Conley was phenomenal as
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Speaker 3: a rookie. Like he, they were super happy with him. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: They got all sorts of problems, man. And, I don't know, man.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen such a distinction or
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Speaker 1: a difference between the right side of an offensive line
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Speaker 1: and then the middle to left.
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Speaker 2: Because like you said, they're good at right guard and
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Speaker 2: right tackle. Center, left guard, left tackle, they are really
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Speaker 2: in trouble.
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Speaker 3: And they overpay for Chika Konkwo, who's a really good
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Speaker 3: athlete but not physical at all. Yeah. And the tight end, Sinnott,
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Speaker 3: the second rounder, was a major reach.
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Speaker 1: Right. I think O'Connor will be good in that offense, though,
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Speaker 1: because they'll use him as an F and Bates as
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Speaker 1: the Y, and they'll run a lot of 12 personnel.
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Speaker 3: Oh, no, he's the F. I mean, Sennett was supposed
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Speaker 3: to be the F, but he– Nah. They kind of–
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Speaker 3: telling what they thought because they signed someone to take
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Speaker 3: his job. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He's an F if you give him a grade.
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Speaker 3: He was great in the Junior Bowl. I wasn't really
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Speaker 3: familiar with him out of Kansas State, and he had
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Speaker 3: a great weekend. Yeah. I'm sure that helped him, but, man,
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Speaker 3: that– but they got our guy Sonny Stiles– They're super
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Speaker 3: talented on the front seven. They addressed it. They went
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Speaker 3: super crazy with Tim Settle, Amedehu, Adafioe, Sonny Stiles, Louvre,
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Speaker 3: he's going to play, I'm told, more of an entrance,
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Speaker 3: or Leo Chennault, who I love as a player.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually, I know they paid a lot of
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Speaker 1: money and overpaid, but I do think for who they
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Speaker 1: brought in and this Flores-type system they want to run
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Speaker 1: with Durante Jones. I do feel like the pieces work.
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Speaker 1: And they're younger pieces, many of them.
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Speaker 2: I mean, having.
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Speaker 3: Style and having a whole way. Good.
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Speaker 1: So this is going to be a system predicated on
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Speaker 1: not just beating the guy in front of you like
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Speaker 1: a normal 4-3. It's going to be a schemed-up blitz
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Speaker 1: from every direction. Those are the kind of guys that
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Speaker 1: you want rushing the passer.
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Speaker 3: They're a 34 front. They're going to be a 34 front.
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Speaker 3: And they're going to move around. They're 34 and... They
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Speaker 3: got so much– it's funny because I remember when they
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Speaker 3: were playing Martin, the Temple edge rusher, when they got
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Speaker 3: off the scrappy, he had to start because they ran
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Speaker 3: out of edge rushers. They were so beat up. Now
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Speaker 3: they're so deep. But they're not deep at corner. They're
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Speaker 3: really struggling. Guess who might start opening day?
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Speaker 1: I know.
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: Rasul Douglas, is it?
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Speaker 3: Yep. Rasul Douglas might have to start because they're running
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Speaker 3: out of players. Yikes.
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Speaker 2: Was Sandra still on the outside still?
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's– yeah, and he didn't have a good year.
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Speaker 3: He was– Sanderson was phenomenal as a rookie, but he
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Speaker 3: did not have a good year last year. Yeah. All right.
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Speaker 1: We've got to do one of these pods soon where
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Speaker 1: we're doing our overall. You've got so much intel and
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Speaker 1: so many things we can talk about where we give
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Speaker 1: our bottom five NFL teams and then our top ten.
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Speaker 1: We'll do that soon because we'll have some time between
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Speaker 1: now and the opening.
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Speaker 3: First injury report. By the way, next Wednesday is the
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Speaker 3: first injury report. Can't wait. All right.
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Speaker 2: Great stuff.
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