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Hamas' 'time is up' ALL living hostages released from captivity as Gaza war ends · INSIGHT TODAY

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  Speaker 1: Let's bring in from the Foundation for the Defense Democracy,
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  Speaker 1: doctor Jonathan Schanzer. Doctor, thanks so much for joining the
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  Speaker 1: program this morning. Let's talk about not only this day
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  Speaker 1: of jubilation, but what's next after this. Now that we
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  Speaker 1: got the hostages home, and now that we've had two
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  Speaker 1: parties to agree to peace, how do we keep peace?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a good question. It's great to be with
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  Speaker 2: you in historic morning. Here.
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  Speaker 3: Look, we got Donald Trump on his way to Egypt
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  Speaker 3: in just a little bit. I think after he speaks
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  Speaker 3: to the Israeli Parliament, to the Knesset, he's going to
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  Speaker 3: be actually going with Benjamin Netanyau, with the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 3: of Israel are going to go to Egypt. There is
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  Speaker 3: going to be a summit, and as I understand it
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  Speaker 3: right now, Indonesia.
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  Speaker 2: Will be there, Qatar will be there.
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  Speaker 3: The Egyptian President is actually going to speak to Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister nets Hoanyau for the first time in months,
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  Speaker 3: maybe even more than a year. So what we have
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  Speaker 3: I think after this is an opportunity for the Arab world,
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  Speaker 3: the Muslim world, Israel, the United States to begin to
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  Speaker 3: come together to talk about exactly what you've asked. What
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  Speaker 3: comes next how do we keep the calm after this
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  Speaker 3: initial phase. Now we still need to see the deceased
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  Speaker 3: hostages returned. As we understand it right now, it's not
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  Speaker 3: an easy thing to find them. There are bodies that
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  Speaker 3: have yet to be uncovered by Hamas. I think the
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  Speaker 3: Israelis will be working in good faith as long as
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  Speaker 3: that search continues. But then comes the question after that,
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  Speaker 3: who rebuilds, who's going to pay for it, who's going
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  Speaker 3: to be allowed in, how is security going to be maintained.
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  Speaker 3: So we've got a lot of tough steps ahead of us,
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  Speaker 3: but this is a huge day that has brought an
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  Speaker 3: end to a nightmare that has lasted for two years.
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Shanzar, can you explain what's the mindset right now
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  Speaker 4: in the Gaza strut? They elected Hamas, so you would
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  Speaker 4: think they would support them. Did they do that out
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  Speaker 4: of fear or do they really support them? And what
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  Speaker 4: is their mindset? Because they have to be happy they're
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  Speaker 4: getting their prisoners back, they have to be happy they're
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  Speaker 4: getting humanitarian aid, and they have to be happy that
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  Speaker 4: the president wants to rebuild that area and have the
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  Speaker 4: support of Middle Eastern countries.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people back in two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and six. There was a political standoff that followed
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  Speaker 3: and then a civil war where Hamas conquered the Gaza
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  Speaker 3: Strip by force. Ever since then, there's not been an election,
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  Speaker 3: There are no political parties. This has been essentially Taliban
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  Speaker 3: rule inside the Gaza Strip. So you have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of frustrated people who stood by helplessly while Hamas launched
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  Speaker 3: a war that brought nothing but destruction and rubble to
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  Speaker 3: the Gaza strips. So two million people have suffered here.
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  Speaker 3: They don't care about the people that are returning there.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, the hangers on from the Hamas's support base
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  Speaker 3: that maybe are still happy about what's happened here. But
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  Speaker 3: it's hard to imagine that anybody in Gaza right now
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  Speaker 3: will look out at the horizon and be pleased. It
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  Speaker 3: is a lot of rubble. It has been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of death and destruction. Hamas could have prevented all of
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  Speaker 3: that if they had just done two years ago what
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  Speaker 3: they just did today. And it took Donald Trump to
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  Speaker 3: chick and wing them and cajole them and to leverage
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  Speaker 3: the Israeli victory that had really already been achieved.
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  Speaker 2: They were just ready to fight to the very end.
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  Speaker 3: It took Donald Trump to get in there, working with
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  Speaker 3: the Israelis and some others from the Muslim world, from
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  Speaker 3: the raw world, and we're now finally seeing the fruits
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  Speaker 3: of this.
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  Speaker 2: But this should have ended a long time ago. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think.
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  Speaker 3: There's much support left for Hamas inside the Gaza script.
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  Speaker 3: They run the country or the territory rather at the
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  Speaker 3: point of a gun, and that's not lost on anybody
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 5: Is there any scenario moving forward where you see Israel
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  Speaker 5: or the rest of the world accepting hamas As in
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  Speaker 5: a leadership role in Gaza.
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  Speaker 2: I mean absolutely not.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at the President's twenty point plan, he
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  Speaker 3: has called for the dismantling of Hamas. If you heard
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  Speaker 3: him today as he was speaking before they were journalists
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  Speaker 3: at the Kaness at Israel's parliament, he got up in
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  Speaker 3: front of them and he said, you know, they will
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  Speaker 3: dismantle He thinks made it very clear that this terrorist
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  Speaker 3: group is not going to continue to run the Gaza strip.
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  Speaker 3: Now we'll have to see how the Arab world, the
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  Speaker 3: Muslim world responds, whether we hear the same thing echoed
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  Speaker 3: today in Egypt when the president meets with these world leaders.
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  Speaker 3: But right now, as we all understand it, Hamas will
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  Speaker 3: not have the ability to continue to rule the Gaza Strip.
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  Speaker 3: They have forfeited that as a result of the war
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  Speaker 3: that they launched on October seventh, twenty twenty three, killing
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  Speaker 3: twelve hundred people, taking more than two hundred and fifty hostages.
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  Speaker 3: They forfeited that right and you can look right now
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  Speaker 3: at everything that has happened, the destruction, the chaos in
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  Speaker 3: the Middle East. I think most of the region would
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  Speaker 3: agree their time is up.
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  Speaker 4: Doctor Chanzer. Thank you so much for coming on with us.
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