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Everton 1-3 Sunderland… A Sad Send-Off | Outside the Box Ep 7 · Outside the Box with Leon Osman and Tony Bellew

• 0:00
  What do you get up to on the weekend Tony?
• 0:24
  I'm not going to lie, I don't want to talk about it.
• 0:27
  No, I've completely had enough.
• 0:29
  Oh, you're just talking straight to football.
• 0:31
  You're not talking about anything exciting that you might have done.
• 0:34
  Tony does that, doesn't he?
• 0:35
  But do you know what?
• 0:36
  You're talking straight to football.
• 0:37
  Yeah, but well, the boxing was crap.
• 0:41
  I didn't go well.
• 0:44
  And then on top of that, it's just a football.
• 0:46
  Just ruined me whole weekend.
• 0:48
  Yeah, me son didn't really play a game.
• 0:51
  He played the training game.
• 0:52
  They haven't.
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  I'm a brilliant.
• 0:54
  Yeah, Paul got some well these days.
• 0:55
  But it's a training game and they don't really mean anything.
• 0:59
  So, you know, as he knows about that, when it comes to football, you know, he's turned up
• 1:03
  and training and I'm watching training every day.
• 1:04
  He's still trying to impress.
• 1:05
  He's still trying to make sure that he doesn't come away from any game.
• 1:08
  I know.
• 1:09
  Playing bad.
• 1:10
  So, playing well is still a training game.
• 1:12
  No, it's still a good thing.
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  And it is still positive.
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  You can only try and be the best you can be all the time.
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  Every time you cross the white line zone, in any aspect of your life, when you're doing something,
• 1:21
  always be the best you can be.
• 1:23
  So, that is still a positive.
• 1:25
  Obviously, I understand.
• 1:26
  I understand the boxing and the football didn't go well enough.
• 1:33
  Definitely.
• 1:34
  I'm just sick of football.
• 1:35
  Disappointing money.
• 1:36
  I've had enough.
• 1:37
  I've had enough.
• 1:38
  Come on, I'm going to give you a moment now just to vent.
• 1:41
  I can see it.
• 1:42
  It's built up and you go on off you go.
• 1:45
  I'm just angry and fed up.
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  I just can't believe they just done that.
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  I can't believe it.
• 1:50
  How do you do what you've done to Manchester City?
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  The best football team in the league.
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  I don't care what anyone's opinion is.
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  What you say, Manchester City played the best football in the league.
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  When they're in full flow, they're unstoppable.
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  And we went toe to toe with them and with three on up.
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  And then we go against Sunderland who are playing absolutely dreadful.
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  Not in any kind of form.
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  And they come to our place and bounces.
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  I need to take it.
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  I just need to breathe.
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  Because I'm angry even now.
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  I went there.
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  Went there with so much hope.
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  And so much.
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  I couldn't have a beautiful form manager.
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  I couldn't have a coach because I would strangle people.
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  I really would.
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  What was the problem then?
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  What was the problem?
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  Because we've been in the coffee shop before Leon.
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  And I'm asking him for him to give me just explain it.
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  Please, because he's a player, like I said, I don't get it.
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  So I will always ask you.
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  You'll be the first person I'll ask when it comes to football.
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  Him or Neil.
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  And I just...
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  Why Leon?
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  How?
• 2:58
  How?
• 2:59
  There's no just definitive answer.
• 3:02
  Come on.
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  Don't bail him out.
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  No, I'm saying there's no definitive answer.
• 3:06
  Because I don't even think we got to really see a tactical setup.
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  I don't think we got to see how we were sort of closing down
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  and making any sense.
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  Because we just kept giving the ball away.
• 3:16
  I've never seen so many misplaced passes and lacking of concentration
• 3:20
  and looking one way and kicking it the other by accident
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  and heel passing them when you're not meaning to fall and over the ball.
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  You notice it.
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  There will be every single game there'll be passes given away.
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  And every single game there'll be one player probably at minimum.
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  That doesn't particularly play as well as he can.
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  There were up to his usual standards.
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  But in a team that can be sort of covered and you can...
• 3:45
  Damn, I'm not playing well today but I'll let me socks off
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  and you can get covered within a team.
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  When I think all 11 of them can't put a pass together
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  and they're looking at each other and they want the world to swallow them up.
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  That was across the board.
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  I mean, when you're going to then games, in fact every game,
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  but in them games you always want your best players to be playing really well.
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  And that was probably the worst I've seen other than the Diplay.
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  Arguably as bad as I've seen, Jews be whole play.
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  But in product and decision making and in the crucial moments.
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  And there you best players.
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  And I get the feeling boys was considered and making changes
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  and maybe even bringing them off until we conceded that second goal.
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  And then now you need your best players on the pitch.
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  Because they might still provide a moment of magic
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  and it just didn't seem to be the case.
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  People coming off the bench and not improving the team at all.
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  Everything just seemed to go wrong.
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  I know even when it was 1 mil.
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  We were lucky to be 1 mil.
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  I didn't think we deserved to be 1 mil up.
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  But I thought, you know when you go 1 mil up,
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  like I said before, when it comes to football,
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  it's just an opinion that I've got.
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  But at 1 mil, you don't deserve to be 1 mil up.
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  You just go, do you know what lads?
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  That's just bad down the edges.
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  And just just drag something out of this
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  because we ain't playing well.
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  I mean, I just...
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  I can't grasp how do you just fall apart?
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  No, you're right.
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  And you get in there 1 mil up a half time
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  and you're looking around and go, well, we can't be anywhere.
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  You think, let's knuckle down.
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  Let's tell you what, we're obviously not playing well.
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  So let's play in there half.
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  Let's play the ball forward.
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  Let's try and make sure that if we make mistakes
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  it's at the top end of the pitch.
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  That was the key thing.
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  You can't then afford to make mistakes
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  and give goals away.
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  And that ball that came, Jacob Brown's really,
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  I mean, it only just managed to get himself back on the pitch.
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  But that was a really poor touch in a big moment.
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  In our half, when we were exposed,
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  when you're not playing well,
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  you can't afford to do that.
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  You've got to make mistakes at the top end of the pitch.
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  And from that moment,
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  you just felt we were never going to be able to recover.
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  They were actually playing well.
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  They were on the front foot.
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  We couldn't get out of it.
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  We had nobody that was able to get on the ball
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  and sort of make things happen
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  because everyone was given the ball away.
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  So we were never going to recover from a crucial mistake.
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  And I think we ended up making a couple more mistakes
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  for the next few goals as well.
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  So I just felt out of that.
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  I remember speaking to the kids
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  and a couple of other people.
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  And I said,
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  if we get the second year,
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  you're only speaking to your own kids.
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  Yeah.
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  I'm a couple of other people who was around us.
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  We're just rounding up kids.
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  No, no, no.
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  It's not that kind of party, Leon.
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  Please stop at us.
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  We're going to end up on a bad show.
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  Don't do it.
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  I feel bad enough as it is.
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  So I'm speaking to the kids
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  and a couple of other people.
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  And I just thought,
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  if we get the second goal,
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  they'd use it down.
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  I said, but I'll tell you something.
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  If these get a goal,
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  we're in a wilder show,
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  because no one's had more points
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  from being behind the games
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  in the Premier League this season
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  and so on.
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  They've had more points
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  and anyone from behind
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  from coming from behind
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  and I just thought,
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  this is not good.
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  And that goal went in
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  and I just thought,
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  the lads' edge went,
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  I thought,
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  they just looked so.
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  I don't want to say no,
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  because they were all still asking
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  and wanting the ball.
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  But what they would do with the ball
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  just wasn't good enough.
• 7:15
  Yeah.
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  I mean, we've,
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  we've been a mixed bag at home
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  really this season.
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  And we've been,
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  a couple of games
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  where we've been
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  really good,
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  a couple of games
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  where we've not really competed.
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  It's, again,
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  first season in our new stadium.
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  Are we expecting
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  to win every single week?
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  No.
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  We probably are, you know.
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  Have you been honest with yourself?
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  We go the game every single week.
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  Yeah.
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  And we probably think we're going to win.
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  Or we expect to win every single week.
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  I didn't.
• 7:41
  No, I just come on.
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  Maybe not against City.
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  Maybe not against Arsenal.
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  We don't.
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  Arsenal City.
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  You're hoping in the dark.
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  All the other games, I think,
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  if we're honest with ourselves
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  as a group of authorities,
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  we go the game,
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  we're going to win today.
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  Yeah.
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  But how do you go on from that City game?
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  Against the best side,
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  the best football team.
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  You know,
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  you're fighting with them
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  to the nail.
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  And every player is chasing everything,
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  running everything
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  and then plays quality on the ball.
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  How'd you go from that
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  to a week later, that?
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  As a team, how'd you have that?
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  That's my footballs.
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  That's my footballs incredibly good.
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  No, but as a team.
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  So you've been a player.
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  So football and quality,
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  just my opinion is about,
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  so everybody can play to a certain standard.
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  They've got their own certain standards.
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  So the top players will be outstanding
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  or can get to certain levels better than the others.
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  And then you'll have other players
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  that can have a brilliant day
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  and you'll think on that one day
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  they can be good as anyone.
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  Anyone.
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  But the best players can do that every single week.
• 8:39
  Yeah.
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  The other players can reach that standard on occasion
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  but can't manage to do it every single week.
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  Now, again, city on the, on the Monday.
• 8:47
  Yeah, to, uh, to a certain extent,
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  most of our players were playing to a high level.
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  But we can't consistently do that.
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  And we can ask them to do it,
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  but it's not expectant that players
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  that we're able to get
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  ready to perform at that level every single week.
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  And as I said before,
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  if you can have five or six
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  that are playing OK and playing well,
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  you can get through a game and you can mask it.
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  And I can't tell you the amount of games
• 9:16
  where I might, or might not,
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  I'm sorry, let's say I didn't play well,
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  but it's all right,
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  because P9 and Bains were playing really well there.
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  And our tattoo and kale was gone.
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  And you didn't notice that I wasn't playing well,
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  but a lot of episodes may have not
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  still wasn't playing very well.
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  I might not have played well on that day.
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  But then the next week,
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  one of the other guys might have an off day
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  and I might have a good day.
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  And it's fine because there's enough of you as
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  playing well on the team.
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  And that's the thing I would say.
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  Everybody in the team.
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  Every person in that team
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  would probably be able to turn around and say,
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  I wasn't a big bad thing.
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  I think this was a big thing.
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  I'm OK.
• 9:50
  Missing him was a big thing.
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  But then,
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  I'll tell you what,
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  I think what's massive,
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  since he's come back from the African combinations,
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  element and dives tied,
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  because he's been absolutely amazing all season.
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  And since he's came back from there,
• 10:05
  there's something wrong with the final product.
• 10:07
  And I think the final product comes down to
• 10:09
  your decision making
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  and decision making gets affected through tightness.
• 10:14
  I think the absence of Jack as well,
• 10:16
  though, makes a difference within the eye,
• 10:17
  that Jack'll pull two players over
• 10:19
  and gives him a bit more space.
• 10:21
  Just a little bit.
• 10:22
  Jack sort of slept over there with the assistant
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  this season.
• 10:24
  He hasn't been playing for a long time.
• 10:25
  I'm good.
• 10:26
  But three months.
• 10:27
  I've been boy.
• 10:28
  And then the fouls he creates us
• 10:29
  and he gets us,
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  he's such a pivotal part.
• 10:31
  I was so much open,
• 10:32
  Dibbling was going to come in, you know.
• 10:34
  And you know when Jack,
• 10:35
  if the injury,
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  I was just thinking,
• 10:37
  sonnage,
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  this is his chance.
• 10:39
  Go and grab that shit and go,
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  this is what I'm about.
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  And it just doesn't work.
• 10:43
  I don't know why,
• 10:44
  but it's obviously the manager does believe
• 10:45
  in him and thinks there's a player in there,
• 10:46
  but what is it?
• 10:48
  Well, we just have to hope he's,
• 10:50
  he's a slow bearer.
• 10:51
  It's not well documented,
• 10:53
  but it's been made quite public
• 10:56
  and obvious that he's a shine reserve.
• 10:59
  I'm glad that he has character.
• 11:00
  That's just everybody's different.
• 11:01
  He's a more reserved character.
• 11:02
  He's going to find a move away from home.
• 11:06
  Tough remembered.
• 11:07
  He's like 19, 20 maybe.
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  He's still a baby.
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  I can't imagine your kid moving away
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  from home across the country
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  and being asked
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  to a huge demands on his shoulders
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  and expectation
• 11:19
  and you know,
• 11:20
  it's quality.
• 11:21
  But he hasn't been put on his shoulders
• 11:22
  really well because he hasn't started
• 11:23
  the empty game.
• 11:24
  And he hasn't been said,
• 11:25
  you've got to do this.
• 11:26
  I'm more wanting to see him go.
• 11:28
  Give me the chance.
• 11:29
  I'm more wanting to see him get on a pitch and go.
• 11:31
  Give me the ball.
• 11:32
  I just don't see players who are like
• 11:35
  I said this before,
• 11:36
  I said that Thiago plays for Brentford.
• 11:38
  He wants the ball.
• 11:39
  He's coming running out of the forwards
• 11:41
  and going, give me a,
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  give me that.
• 11:43
  He's had a great season,
• 11:44
  but he's not played well every week.
• 11:45
  Last three weeks.
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  No, no, no.
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  Pretty average.
• 11:48
  I know, because I've got,
• 11:49
  let me find this elite team.
• 11:50
  It's not got me any actual points.
• 11:51
  It's been doing me.
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  I did.
• 11:53
  I don't always see players these days
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  like give me the ball.
• 11:55
  I want what I know.
• 11:56
  Can you just be always done with all season.
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  Give me the ball.
• 11:58
  James Garner's done with all season.
• 11:59
  Man, Jack was getting the ball.
• 12:02
  Jack was getting the ball.
• 12:03
  Getting the two of players.
• 12:04
  And he was telling players,
• 12:05
  you're going to get where you go that way.
• 12:06
  Literally, while he had the ball at his feet,
• 12:08
  he's telling players where to go,
• 12:09
  as decoys or where he can go create space.
• 12:11
  I'm just not seeing enough from players
• 12:14
  and individuals who are quality.
• 12:15
  Look, this is always,
• 12:16
  this is always overemphasised
• 12:19
  on the back of a defeat.
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  Let alone a really poor,
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  disappointing defeat,
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  which it was.
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  So it's obviously,
• 12:26
  it's everything becomes even more massive.
• 12:29
  I think at most of the season,
• 12:30
  everyone else wanted the world.
• 12:31
  Again, city,
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  everybody seemed to want the ball.
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  Everyone was depressed.
• 12:34
  Everyone said to do this.
• 12:35
  Even though they were playing pretty poorly,
• 12:39
  amongst people still wanted the ball on Sunday,
• 12:42
  they just kept giving it away.
• 12:43
  That was the issue.
• 12:44
  When they got turned,
• 12:45
  they were quick enough in the feet to get the ball out.
• 12:47
  Sunderland played pretty well.
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  Sunderland.
• 12:50
  That's exactly what I'm saying.
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  We're good.
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  Sacka was dictating in the middle
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  of the pitch there,
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  to the players as well.
• 12:56
  No.
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  Robbie up front.
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  Up front.
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  Wow.
• 13:00
  He bullied Sacka by the way.
• 13:01
  By the way, yeah.
• 13:02
  Yeah.
• 13:03
  He did see the goal.
• 13:04
  Yeah. Good technically.
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  Bounce some people physically off the ball,
• 13:07
  likes to run over the top.
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  As the old drug moves in the sense of,
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  can physically bully anyone
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  when he wants to,
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  but then if someone pushes him from behind,
• 13:16
  he's the weakest man on the pitch.
• 13:17
  Yeah.
• 13:18
  He's a special.
• 13:19
  He's got a little bit of all of that.
• 13:20
  He's strong.
• 13:21
  He's quick.
• 13:22
  He can move.
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  So, yeah.
• 13:24
  He did do well.
• 13:25
  I think Michael Keen's been brilliant all season.
• 13:26
  Yes.
• 13:27
  I think we've got an abundance.
• 13:29
  I think we've got some good sense.
• 13:30
  That half is not the problem.
• 13:32
  It's obviously someone saying right back or whatever.
• 13:35
  Left back or whatever you want to think.
• 13:37
  I think Michael's being okay this season.
• 13:39
  Yeah.
• 13:40
  So he's been, he's been very good.
• 13:42
  So if you're looking to strengthen,
• 13:44
  you're hoping that we keep everybody in our team,
• 13:46
  which isn't always a given,
• 13:47
  but you hope we keep everyone in the team.
• 13:49
  And then we're looking at maybe both fullbacks,
• 13:53
  striker, maybe another goal score
• 13:56
  and actual wide man who's going to get you a 15-20 a season.
• 14:01
  Maybe something along the lines,
• 14:02
  but central midfield, we've got quite a few.
• 14:05
  Interesting.
• 14:06
  If we keep the last we do.
• 14:07
  If we keep all the jack.
• 14:09
  Yeah.
• 14:10
  I just think you need, you need a goal score.
• 14:13
  And you know what?
• 14:14
  I hate saying that because I fear
• 14:15
  for the legs to be in our body and battle.
• 14:17
  So especially it's been really good at certain times of season.
• 14:20
  And he's got his vital goals.
• 14:21
  Yeah.
• 14:22
  Same at the end or barrier times.
• 14:23
  But you need that constant threat.
• 14:25
  You need someone who, when he walks on the pitch,
• 14:27
  the other center asks,
• 14:28
  oh, this is a problem this.
• 14:30
  Yeah.
• 14:31
  And he's actually got goals.
• 14:32
  And in words,
• 14:33
  it's our forwards.
• 14:34
  I've got to get double figures.
• 14:35
  Yeah.
• 14:36
  And I think we will,
• 14:37
  we'll look at this though.
• 14:38
  Right?
• 14:39
  If we'd signed one center forward at the start of this season
• 14:43
  and they'd played,
• 14:46
  let's just say over 30 games,
• 14:48
  30 to 34 games,
• 14:50
  because I mean,
• 14:51
  they can't play every game in the season,
• 14:52
  but you can't always ask games I haven't told you.
• 14:54
  But let's say they play 34 games,
• 14:56
  and they got us 17 goals in a season.
• 14:59
  What would you be saying?
• 15:00
  Wow.
• 15:01
  If an Evan 4 comes in and get more than 15 goals,
• 15:05
  well, have it now in the top six?
• 15:07
  Well, Beto and Barry have rotated consistently all seasons.
• 15:11
  So if you pretend that they are one starting number nine,
• 15:14
  between them, they've got 17 goals.
• 15:15
  I know, but they're not.
• 15:16
  Oh, they don't know.
• 15:17
  But they have asked us.
• 15:18
  Let's just say that was what our strikers got 17 goals.
• 15:21
  Yeah, but that's two.
• 15:22
  It's not one.
• 15:23
  We've got 17 goals from that position this season.
• 15:26
  I know.
• 15:27
  I get your point.
• 15:28
  So now you actually need goals from elsewhere.
• 15:29
  Choose bills.
• 15:30
  Got eight brilliantly.
• 15:31
  Now we need it.
• 15:32
  You need to entire you got, I think nine last year.
• 15:34
  I don't think he's anywhere near that this year.
• 15:36
  I'm not sure we've got.
• 15:38
  We haven't got any goals from other side.
• 15:40
  So you do generally need.
• 15:43
  Got all over the pitch.
• 15:44
  Each center half score.
• 15:45
  Which they do.
• 15:46
  Yeah, they scored a couple of seasons, I think.
• 15:48
  They're Michael Keen's definitely scored a couple.
• 15:51
  But we have got goals from our center forward position.
• 15:54
  I know, but it's not as you need.
• 15:56
  You need.
• 15:57
  We need the talisman.
• 15:58
  Move it forward.
• 15:59
  We want a center forward that.
• 16:01
  A great sharp type.
• 16:03
  You know, for us, because that's the physical one,
• 16:06
  the one that wants to fight that is as physical as Beto and Barry.
• 16:10
  But it's got a really good first touch intelligence,
• 16:12
  bringer people into play.
• 16:13
  Anytime a cross goes in, you think you can come on.
• 16:15
  Here he is getting on the end of a big cross book and run.
• 16:18
  You want an all round center forward that.
• 16:21
  You know, we can all get excited about because Beto and Barry.
• 16:25
  I think I've done an okay job between them all season, but.
• 16:31
  There are certain levels that they'll get to.
• 16:33
  You know what I mean?
• 16:34
  And we want better.
• 16:35
  But the guy I've just described is either not out there anymore.
• 16:39
  Or costs 100 million.
• 16:41
  Even Tiago is not quite the player I've just described.
• 16:45
  Have we found someone else?
• 16:47
  Is it going to say we wanted him this summer?
• 16:49
  What are you looking at?
• 16:50
  60, 70 million to try and bring him away.
• 16:52
  If he scored 20 goals this year,
• 16:54
  then it's £100 million.
• 16:56
  Without a shadow.
• 16:57
  I've said, we are having Tony and R.T.
• 16:59
  I don't care who says what.
• 17:01
  I haven't Tony Stark, but every week.
• 17:02
  Everton and top six now.
• 17:04
  Because them draws attending to wins.
• 17:07
  Some of them losses attended to draws.
• 17:09
  It's quite simple.
• 17:10
  I don't know if he's the player.
• 17:12
  I don't know if he's the player.
• 17:13
  I mean, Brent forgot Beto.
• 17:14
  I don't even Tony remember.
• 17:15
  I know.
• 17:16
  But when the other mate, he was a monster.
• 17:18
  He was a goal machine.
• 17:19
  I mean, he's the best penalty.
• 17:20
  He's the best penalty.
• 17:21
  I think I've ever seen.
• 17:22
  Yeah.
• 17:23
  Although who's that?
• 17:24
  Just Ralph Jimenez has just become the official best penalty
• 17:27
  ticket by stats because he's never missed a penalty.
• 17:31
  So he's literally.
• 17:32
  He's took over 12 and he's the only one.
• 17:34
  Tony took like.
• 17:35
  Yeah.
• 17:36
  35 and miss one.
• 17:37
  Like like like Tisci did.
• 17:38
  Tisci did.
• 17:39
  Tisci did.
• 17:40
  He's a good one.
• 17:41
  But Ralph Jimenez at the minute on like 40 and a something.
• 17:45
  And I haven't missed one.
• 17:46
  So talking ever and still.
• 17:48
  We're talking full.
• 17:50
  But we obviously do need a right back.
• 17:52
  Shameless is leaving, which we'll get to in a second.
• 17:55
  Can't keep asking Jacob Brown to play there.
• 17:57
  Left back.
• 17:58
  Michael Enko.
• 17:59
  As new.
• 18:00
  Do you think anything about.
• 18:01
  About.
• 18:02
  Are we giving him a chance?
• 18:03
  Are we giving Diblin?
• 18:04
  Diblin has a new country over the summer.
• 18:06
  Just get physical.
• 18:07
  Grow physically and I'm ready for the team.
• 18:10
  There's potential two players that.
• 18:12
  Yes, we obviously bought into the team.
• 18:14
  But we haven't had.
• 18:15
  We haven't had.
• 18:16
  There's no one.
• 18:17
  We bought.
• 18:18
  I think we paid 10 million.
• 18:19
  We played 10 million.
• 18:20
  Okay.
• 18:21
  So you're putting a baby.
• 18:22
  And you're buying for the future.
• 18:23
  Which I don't necessarily like at a club like ours.
• 18:26
  I understand it because it works.
• 18:27
  A born with it.
• 18:28
  I think.
• 18:29
  I think you have to have times nowadays because of the price
• 18:31
  that.
• 18:32
  That you.
• 18:33
  That you have to pay.
• 18:34
  We waited.
• 18:35
  Let's just say another year.
• 18:36
  Need.
• 18:37
  I don't know the other.
• 18:38
  And we wanted to buy him.
• 18:39
  He'd be 28.
• 18:40
  There's obviously potentially.
• 18:41
  You don't go to buy him, you know, for nothing.
• 18:42
  So there's obviously potential there.
• 18:43
  But did you see him walking around the pitch at the end of the game?
• 18:45
  I felt sorry for him.
• 18:46
  He was.
• 18:47
  Just felt like he was on his own.
• 18:48
  And he had no family.
• 18:49
  Which you don't when you.
• 18:50
  19 living away from home.
• 18:51
  But he wasn't walking around with any of the other teammates.
• 18:54
  He was just walking around with like a bit.
• 18:56
  Looking.
• 18:57
  I just look very sad.
• 18:58
  Yeah.
• 18:59
  I think the latter.
• 19:00
  I think the lads were all flat after the game.
• 19:02
  Oh, definitely.
• 19:03
  And Sunday and everyone's had enough.
• 19:04
  And I feel ashamed because, you know, ideally you want to send off that decretion and go
• 19:10
  out of let's go.
• 19:11
  They're the ones you want for them.
• 19:12
  But ultimately.
• 19:13
  They've got to be performing better.
• 19:15
  And the books.
• 19:16
  And I'm certainly saying it.
• 19:18
  But I'll say again.
• 19:19
  The book stops at the place.
• 19:20
  I hear some of the people talking about them.
• 19:22
  All honesty.
• 19:23
  No, the book does stop with the manager.
• 19:25
  There's no doubt about it.
• 19:26
  You can't.
• 19:27
  We'd both like to love David Moise.
• 19:29
  We can't pretend the book doesn't start with the manager.
• 19:31
  It does.
• 19:32
  No, it does.
• 19:33
  But the performance on the pitch is the players.
• 19:34
  He picks it to him.
• 19:35
  And that team was more than good enough.
• 19:36
  If we were beat Sunday.
• 19:37
  If we were.
• 19:38
  If we were doing certain things and we got completely don't tactically then yet.
• 19:42
  100%.
• 19:43
  We'd be turning.
• 19:44
  But players couldn't robust together.
• 19:45
  That makes it.
• 19:46
  That makes it more difficult.
• 19:48
  But.
• 19:49
  Were you disappointed?
• 19:50
  Were you disappointed?
• 19:52
  The amount of people in the stadium.
• 19:53
  Yeah.
• 19:55
  That's what it was for shade mrs uh and then i was disappointed when.
• 20:12
  Four shames for most and then secondly i was disappointed for.
• 20:16
  Fams coming out.
• 20:17
  I'm monitoring.
• 20:18
  And thinking,
• 20:19
  Howz you possibly have a god.
• 20:20
  The manager after what we've just done again.
• 20:21
  out, but ultimately frustrated though, I understand the frustration, not necessarily, I'd not
• 20:26
  say and I agree with it, I don't, but I understand the frustration because of the word hope.
• 20:32
  So if we hope, yep, that's what I mean. So if we'd have been 14th-ish or season, not
• 20:38
  quite involved in the relegations all but never quite getting forward and we ended up
• 20:42
  with an 11th with one game to go, everyone to go, wow, that was, you know, we're quite
• 20:47
  happy because of the run we went on in the middle of the season and because we were in a real
• 20:52
  good position to get into Europe, that weird hope came. And it's still possible now because
• 20:57
  we've just gone six, but we've gone six games now without a win in the crucial moment
• 21:01
  of the season. There's the frustration every single week we're trying to keep this hope
• 21:06
  and yesterday, Sunday was basically hope disappearing because one game to go away at Spurs,
• 21:13
  we are in the lead. We need all the results to forward us. Yeah, and realistically, we're
• 21:18
  not going to get into Europe now. So that's where all the frustration came because that was
• 21:24
  the last of our hope. And if we'd have gone back to the start of the season and said, you've
• 21:29
  finished 11th at the end of the season, everyone would have gone, yes, put your hope killed,
• 21:32
  hope killed, yeah, put yourself in one of them players shoes and that was you on the pitch
• 21:36
  on Sunday and you've got to gather with you when he was with you. Yeah, what's he doing,
• 21:41
  making that impression? And what is he, is he, is he using him on the, and he's a woman?
• 21:46
  No, not, not after that. And just because of the situation we're in now being, it's one
• 21:51
  game to go. It would have been just a bit, it would have been anger, it probably been anger
• 21:56
  at half time. I'd have been going and telling him, I've got a tight tummy, get me off and all
• 22:00
  that in the moments. Now I wouldn't really. You were a warrior, you were fighting till the end,
• 22:05
  don't do that. But would he have, would he have gone, would he have been, he must be furious?
• 22:11
  Yeah, but I, I'm obviously not in the dressing room anymore, no, but you know him, but, yeah,
• 22:16
  put your, I don't, yeah, you've done, you haven't, I've done this for years now. Okay. So the reason
• 22:21
  I'm sort of not quite saying, he would have been different to ask where the players, then he
• 22:27
  probably has to be to this where the players. So I'm telling you, yeah, he would have gone in,
• 22:31
  I've been madder as a half time and shouted and tried to get a reaction out of his,
• 22:34
  you've been, I'm not sure, I'm not sure you can do that with this squad, but I think it's
• 22:38
  still more an arm around them and a coaxing. Come on, of course, please, come on.
• 22:42
  But show me your shamelessest last game. Say, come on, lads, is this last game?
• 22:44
  Come on, no, it would have been, it would have been shameless to stand in their right,
• 22:50
  rant and rage in everyone. I'm pretty sure, telling people to just, you've been in this,
• 22:54
  you've been in this exact position. We're fighting for your two games to go. What did he scream
• 22:58
  and shout at you? Because I know it's a different set of plays, older lads who can take it on board.
• 23:03
  These days, they need Molly Cudland, they need fucking a massage, a e-girl masseuse, a manager can't
• 23:09
  just be a manager. Molly Cudland. Molly Cudland. Molly Cudland. It is still in it. There's no way
• 23:14
  it was Molly Cudland all used. I've seen, I knew all used, he would ballact him and he'd demand
• 23:19
  the best on them. I get it, it's kids running kids, but as he must, well, you with the
• 23:24
  in in this position, I'm trying to think of what, yeah, usually in this position. It's a couple of
• 23:27
  games to go, y'all depends on the life. Loads at times? Exactly, so tell me what he said.
• 23:33
  Mate, just 10 minutes ago, I couldn't remember which mate you were talking about last week.
• 23:38
  I can't remember, it is exactly where it's from. You know when you've been, you know when you've
• 23:42
  been born. On the, yeah, quite regular, to be honest. All there was some sort of bug, and he liked
• 23:48
  coming in the dressing room and either seeing us arguing or him having an argument with someone
• 23:52
  else and getting on any, you know, any walk out the dressing room would be quite pleased with,
• 23:56
  with what happened in there, because it might ride all those up. I just don't know if that's
• 24:01
  happening with, with this squad of players at the moment, but it's all about trying to find
• 24:06
  a way of focusing the team. Maybe, I mean, this is the first time for a long time that we've been
• 24:12
  in any position to achieve something successful at the end of the year. Maybe him and the players,
• 24:18
  I've actually learned a bit about themselves this season. Maybe Moe's has done well and will
• 24:23
  remember exactly what he did to get us into the position, but now we'll look back and go, well maybe
• 24:28
  at that point, I did need to, and I don't know what's happened in the dressing room, but maybe he'll
• 24:31
  look back and go at that point, I probably should have gone for them, been a bit angry with them in
• 24:36
  that point, or maybe I should have done this different, or maybe there was, sort of, on that,
• 24:40
  because no doubt that in this crucial moment, I mean, the draw to Brentford wasn't the end of the
• 24:45
  world, to use me whole probably had a good chance to put us ahead before he eventually equalised
• 24:51
  later, but that felt, I think that felt like a good point if I'm being completely honest, the way
• 24:56
  at Brentford, the way they were going, losing the Derby was a, was a big one, should have done better
• 25:01
  in that, we should have been two, three, nilup after 25 minutes, and we're not putting them
• 25:06
  opportunities away, lose late stupidly, obviously drop points against City, drop points against Palace,
• 25:13
  these are all, there was another one in Chelsea, Chelsea was the last win we got, three, nil,
• 25:20
  so I just think that we've let a lot of points slip away in their moments, and you look at
• 25:26
  that the performances weren't particularly bad in there, we've not been done in any of them,
• 25:30
  do you think we're ready for your,
• 25:32
  yeah, and I know that's going to seem strange, I'm going to say it and I think probably
• 25:42
  said yourself a couple of months back, no, I don't think we're ready for your, but it'd be best
• 25:45
  another season, it's too big a jump, but we're a, well, a well-known name around World Football,
• 25:54
  we just probably need the world of football to realise we're back on the up,
• 25:59
  getting in European football, may do that, then you get players in, because I actually think look,
• 26:04
  if you're looking at your squad, if you're going to handle European football, you need two players
• 26:08
  in every position, so if you think about the squad we've got now, we've got four centre halves,
• 26:13
  really, we'd need at least two right backs, we could potentially have two left backs in
• 26:17
  if I was going to use kicking on, you've got, you've got enough centre midfielders, you've got enough
• 26:21
  wide men, we'd probably need an extra striker and maybe another number ten, so we'd need
• 26:26
  four, four players at the most, yeah, squad wise, I'm not talking about quality wise or what
• 26:32
  noise likes in his team or what the manager wants and where he sees the improvement coming in,
• 26:37
  but just actual players, we'd need three, maybe, it just breaks my heart when I see,
• 26:42
  so they're not as far away from having a squad as you think, breaks me out when I see
• 26:45
  English football is running Europe, the Champions League final is Arsenal, the Europa League final
• 26:51
  is Villa, and the conference league is Palace, we have a question for you, we can put you in
• 26:58
  the event and find we're just swathed where to be a Palace fan, I don't think we're in the FA Cup
• 27:02
  last year, they are a European final, they're a bit a little bit lower than us, would you not swathed
• 27:05
  for us? Would I swathed for you? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not to be a Palace fan.
• 27:09
  No, thank you, we're best of Palace, that's what I'm saying, yeah, I have a Palace fan.
• 27:14
  You mean like in terms of Palace of Wath's 14th at the minute, but then we're in the FA Cup last
• 27:19
  season. That's a little bit lower than the league. Yeah, of course, we did that league.
• 27:22
  Exactly, so why can't we obtain them? I know, we just want to win something, I'm sick of it,
• 27:28
  we poor kids and I'm witness nothing. I feel like you're blaming me personally, yeah, I can
• 27:32
  feel you're looking at me and I'm not prepared to turn, I'm not going to, I'm not looking back at
• 27:37
  them, I'm going to spend a great time with them. Tell me when you stop staring at me. You've
• 27:40
  got us to Europe, he's been brilliant, you know, he's played X amounting in, but it's not,
• 27:44
  it's the point of, you're right when you say you got us. No, it was, it was always the other 10
• 27:48
  people around me. Better than Palace, I don't care what they say, yeah, Palace fans say what
• 27:52
  you want, but we're better than you with a bigger club than you, why are we in, you know, we should
• 27:57
  be in Europe now, we should be, we should be going into this last game, going Europe secured,
• 28:01
  lads. You're right, but it's the hope to kill you and maybe we weren't ready. Look, this time
• 28:05
  last year we were, when boys came in, we were fighting relegation and we have been for the last
• 28:10
  few years. So look, in the last what, 18 months, we've got new owners, we've got a new stadium,
• 28:17
  we've got a new manager, we've now got, I would suggest we've signed some real exciting players,
• 28:25
  Grealist Jews, we all in particular to take us forward, other players around them, the corners
• 28:29
  and that have, I've really stepped up. So actually, if we can, if we can take a step back,
• 28:35
  which I know it's not easy to do in the moment because of the hope, but we've made great strides
• 28:40
  in the last 18 months as a club, we made great strides. So in another 18 months, if we can be
• 28:46
  patient, which again, it's never easy. In another 18 months, if we made the strides that we are,
• 28:52
  we'll absolutely be in, in Europe. We'll absolutely have made our new stadium a difficult place
• 28:58
  for every team to come and you get back to what we generally do, if the 19 games will win 12,
• 29:05
  rather than, you know, we'll lose for three or four maybe and draw the others, you do the maths
• 29:12
  on that. So we'll be in a great position for it. If we make the strides, we have to appreciate
• 29:18
  how far we've come and football is not, not an easy game in terms of all the moving parts of it
• 29:25
  on the pitch, all the moving parts off the pitch, getting sponsorships, getting the lounges
• 29:30
  working, understanding that where the revenue is coming from, everything that brings up a football
• 29:34
  team. I think that's not easy. These owners epitomised that. These owners are a proper business,
• 29:40
  when they know what they're doing from that side of the things. I think the most important thing
• 29:43
  now for the Freaklands is back David Moise. He brought him in. He's done a fantastic job from
• 29:50
  the position he got us in last year in a relegation fight to getting us up the table to mid-table this
• 29:55
  season, fighting for Yorah and he's the goal we've added. We've done this, we've done that.
• 30:01
  He does a favour. Let him have a goal. Let him pick the rewards. Let the manager identify the
• 30:06
  targets that he wants and go and get them because that's all we're missing now. It's the final
• 30:12
  touches to make Evan a top-8 team again. I think once you get into that top-8, you don't know
• 30:19
  what can happen. Once you're in and amongst that top-8, you're right around them. Two wins can get
• 30:23
  you into the top five and that's what you're seeing this season. This has been, in my opinion,
• 30:28
  one of the most exciting seasons in the Premier League history. You can go up and you can go down,
• 30:34
  from the title race as being just so good to watch every team slipping. They're all slipping
• 30:40
  at different times and against weaker teams. Anyone can beat anyone we've seen. I just think
• 30:46
  now is the time, if ever, for Evan to really strike while he ends up back to the manager and
• 30:52
  go and get the people he actually wants because I think it's on the manager then. I think
• 31:00
  managers live and die by the decisions that they make in the transfer market. He live and die
• 31:05
  by his silence and David Moise is reigning Evan the first time. He don't relate with them.
• 31:12
  He knows what makes him never to play, doesn't he? Exactly. He knows what he knows. He knows
• 31:16
  a style of play he wants. Now I'm not saying a director of a bus shouldn't because he will do
• 31:19
  and any of you know his job, of course he does, but no one knows his job if he's in David Moise
• 31:27
  and I just feel back and 100%. How do you think the club move forward without Shamus now in terms
• 31:33
  of what he's brought over the last 17 years? I think it's quite simple that Taki steps up and I think
• 31:43
  Taki's been brilliant by the way. I think he's a leader. I see him amongst the lads. He's a voice
• 31:49
  he's respected heavily, but Shamus going is a big thing. It's just the whole
• 31:56
  presence he has around the club. That's what I'm talking about. I'm not going to, that's
• 32:02
  irreplaceable, but there's a number that's other staff leaving that we've seen that come out.
• 32:06
  Call me. Yeah, you know, just there's other lads and it was that game in Eminable.
• 32:11
  They just, do you call them loot tenants at the club? I was ironed up to that.
• 32:19
  He was never a generally little shit.
• 32:24
  They're just, the people who get the club and did that link between the fans and it's
• 32:32
  hard to explain, but Shamus, you're from the city, you're living the city, you're amongst
• 32:37
  the lads. I think that lads who come in definitely brought into everything, didn't he?
• 32:41
  Yes, he literally brought into the culture, to the club, to living in Liverpool, to be in
• 32:48
  the city, to everything that the club could give him. He took it and made it part of his life as
• 32:57
  well. I mean, again, I can't talk highly enough of Shamus. I would have liked that to have been
• 33:03
  a full stadium for him to do his lap of wandering. I could see it in his face, the disappointment.
• 33:08
  But I also know I was well, because I was so quite just being on the bench, looking at him.
• 33:13
  He was more upset about the result. I could tell he was more, he wouldn't have been bothered
• 33:18
  if he didn't get on. He wanted to have it to win his last game. And he was in his face, he seemed
• 33:23
  as upset about that. Yeah, then anything else, then anything else. So his lap of honor was
• 33:29
  was what it was. We all stayed. We family on the other side all stayed to wish him all the best.
• 33:35
  But we also stayed for Jimmy Coleman to come out and have his little, of his little moment with
• 33:40
  this staff on the pitch's daughter. And his wife would behind us, Jodie and Donna screaming.
• 33:48
  And then wishing their dad all the best, which was brilliant. But yeah, I wanted to stay in
• 33:53
  and clap Jimmy, because he's been a huge pal. He's been, he's, he could be as, or has been
• 33:59
  as influential behind the scenes at times as shameless. In terms of, you know,
• 34:04
  remind of people of what the club is and keeping the culture together and keeping the history
• 34:09
  present, if you know what I mean. And and all of that. And he'll have a huge, I'm out of respect.
• 34:14
  From the staff, from the ladies and staffs, or another one who's, it's just, I don't know, it's just
• 34:20
  still. And I understand time is when it's just having your loot, big characters like that. But
• 34:25
  Shameless, I mean, I'm in the first time I'm in Shameless, I'm in the first coming up around the
• 34:29
  lads. And he's a, he's a footballer. It's like he, he's, he feels so privileged. He can't believe it.
• 34:37
  He comes, he comes in. He's like, he can't believe it. He's an easier professional footballer. And
• 34:41
  he has that, and you, you feel that from him every day that he's there. And it's just mad.
• 34:46
  Like, I think for someone like Shameless, coming from Slaggle, he understands what it was like.
• 34:51
  And I don't think that's ever left as mad. About sufferers at a different place. You know,
• 34:56
  things, little things like you to keep being ready. I think he feels like he should be doing that.
• 35:01
  It's just, it's how he comes across. And now, I don't want to use the word humble because I just
• 35:06
  believe everyone should be that no one's special. He should, he's got a kick in a ball. But he's
• 35:10
  just, he reminds you so much. I mean, him sitting next to me, similar. We were talking before
• 35:16
  about things that I've, I've got my mind sticks would say in things. And remember the first time
• 35:22
  being a Finch Farm, I'm going in. And I had a Gillette shower bag. And it was one of them Christmas
• 35:26
  specials that you get. And the, and I walked in the gesture and I was getting the ice bath
• 35:30
  and I put my shower bag there and I was walking. And obviously I've got the night flip flop.
• 35:34
  The wall got these fancy flip flops on and the wall got these like, I never, super remember, I get to
• 35:39
  that. I've got the wall got these super, he's super wash bags. And I'm talking like these are
• 35:44
  a grander piece. These wash bags, some of them at times. And I just thought, wow, this, the way
• 35:50
  you were the standard that the roller only as he was bringing his stuff in in a plastic bag.
• 35:54
  You know, I've, I've, I've, I've related to who he reminds you of with a plastic bag. But
• 35:58
  any scouts who's listening to this, you all know, carries the stuff in a plastic bag and walks
• 36:02
  down. That was Leon. He's that way. He's not with us. He's gone now, but it doesn't matter. He
• 36:08
  walked down on the plastic bag. Leon's blew it up now. He's all known with his big pips.
• 36:13
  But as I said, you got yours. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you, you offered to buy me a bag outside
• 36:20
  just before we came because we, he doesn't even bring the memorabilia in and I bring them in
• 36:25
  and in a carrier bag, Tony suggested he go out and buy me a bag. I said, you know, he's already
• 36:30
  bought yet talking wash bags. So I used to bring my, I think my arm was like a similar to yours.
• 36:36
  I didn't actually have a carrier bag. I was just funny for Tony willing. So,
• 36:40
  but I've, at some point, yeah, AJ and the Johnson went, oh, you can't keep bringing your stuff
• 36:45
  in that bag. Yeah. I'm going to get you a school bag. AJ brought,
• 36:50
  AJ bought me a wallet. Not new to me. Baris me and I was like, oh, okay, cheers. Thanks,
• 36:57
  me. Thanks for, and honestly, I've still got it today. Good luck. It's never broke. It was made
• 37:03
  out of good stuff. It still does the exact same job. Well, anyway, it's not a taking special.
• 37:07
  It's that only a real one. Nope. So what else is up in this week anyway? Yeah. That's a good
• 37:11
  long rant on everything. Yeah. Let's have a little look to the weekend. Come on, you got the
• 37:15
  relegation bottle. You got the, who's going to win the league? I think it's all from Pepsi now.
• 37:19
  So he's a, he's leaving city. Oh, yeah. Where'd he was? Yeah. When was that? This morning. I was
• 37:23
  waking up last night, actually. I was, oh, that is so sad. It is. It's not good. You need
• 37:31
  the best manager. You know, if this area to stay in the Premier League, where's he going to go?
• 37:35
  Glad to see you've been right up doing his own work before. Some of us were waking till very,
• 37:43
  very late. I mean, I got back. I was in London. You're still doing that with show called The Wheel.
• 37:47
  I got back and I was that tired when I picked up a baby from wrestling and then just went home
• 37:52
  and went to bed. I was in bed for like half an hour. I'm glad you had a nice time while the
• 37:55
  Wheel survived. You did the wheel. Well, that's not talking about it. Mark and Ty, you as usual.
• 38:03
  I think people, I'm letting people take the piss too much lately, you know, because if Michael
• 38:08
  Mark and Ty can have a problem with me and you're constantly having a problem with these little
• 38:10
  people. I don't have too many pops at me. I'm letting it go. I'm letting it go. I'm letting it go.
• 38:16
  I'm going to have to start young people. What I'm really about again. And if I fucking let these
• 38:19
  others go, I'll be on top of it. So you better start picking us up when you don't fucking
• 38:24
  size. You'll think, you'll swing over the top about that. You worry. I'm not going to catch you
• 38:28
  fucking head. I'm actually, you know, I'll catch something. But I just, I just, I'm, yeah, I'm basically,
• 38:34
  I can't believe I've got the oldest. Yes. So, there's bad looks like he's going to go. I mean,
• 38:40
  where's he going? And he hasn't announced where he's going yet. He's just going to retire and
• 38:44
  they're talking on the size of relief city and they're talking. Enzo Morescar is going to be
• 38:49
  cities. How can you have aired that? If you haven't heard, I've not, I've heard that he was
• 38:55
  always in replacement for Pep anyway. I've heard that before. I mean, fair, let's start with this
• 39:01
  fair play to Pep Guardiola. I mean, he's not just been a manager. He was one trophy. He's changed.
• 39:08
  He's been a manager and a person that has left a proper imprint on football in terms of
• 39:14
  everyone wants to try and set up like Pep. Everyone wants to try and be Pep Guardiola. He's left
• 39:21
  a change again. He's left a mark in the same way. His, his mentor was Yoan Kruth. He's always
• 39:30
  said. And he's left the biggest influencers as Kruth did by making that Kruth turn up. You know,
• 39:36
  he's not just one title everywhere. He's gone. He's literally changed the face of football within
• 39:41
  that country and with the way teams play it and false nines and playing up in the back goalkeepers
• 39:48
  have got to be good on the ball and all these different aspects of football that have now
• 39:53
  spread throughout throughout all the league. Everybody league two and league one and championship
• 39:58
  national league teams all want to play out in the back of the way like Pep and you're like,
• 40:03
  change the identity of our ball in this country. Yeah, we're single and I'm sick of everyone
• 40:08
  going into Pep's shoulder. No, no, no, no one's signing to play like Pep. He's playing the way he
• 40:12
  wants to play and people are seeing how successful you can be playing that way, but it doesn't mean
• 40:16
  that you can't. I mean, Arteta doesn't play like Pep and his, and now people are blaming the
• 40:21
  culture. He plays a variation. He plays a variation so you can see that he's worked with Pep and
• 40:26
  you can see the wide men and set positions and running that, but in a very positive way to
• 40:32
  Mikkel, he's also made, he's also been influenced by Ars and Venger and David Moise and you can see
• 40:39
  he's bringing all that to his game, which is Pep's never, which is what you take, you take
• 40:43
  the best things that you've learned and you mash them together with your own principles and
• 40:48
  vert up Mikkel, he's done that. I've never seen Pep as negative as Mikkel.
• 40:52
  Not as team set up like that. I've never, listen, I'm not going to knock Arsenal because they're
• 40:57
  brilliant side and Mikkel's done an amazing job, but there's been times this season when they've
• 41:01
  set up to scored just three kicks. They haven't even gone for the game in some games. Yeah, it might
• 41:06
  not be pleasing on the eye and people are saying, oh, and I'm not on our side winners to title to be
• 41:10
  won by teams doing that, but I'm giving credit to Mikkel. Because it's finding a way.
• 41:15
  Brilliant? It's because you've just said that you don't want, you've just said that it's not
• 41:20
  Pep Guardiola. I thought everybody can choose to do it. Mikkel has chose to do a different one.
• 41:24
  Definitely. I'm not giving him credit. I'm actually giving him credit because all
• 41:29
  of me cop-like mates absolutely despise Mikkel. Besides knowing that he's a boss fellow which he is,
• 41:35
  he's a great lad, but it's brilliant what he's done because he's changed every, he's not going,
• 41:40
  I'm just playing Pep's way. I'm going to do things my way and I'm going to show that I can be Pep
• 41:44
  in different ways. Yeah, he's doing it so far this season. So they might end up having to bring
• 41:48
  some sort of new legislation in with regards to corners and defending and when the whistle goes and
• 41:53
  stuff like that because they're pushing boundaries now. Yeah. You might say that's pushing boundaries
• 41:57
  in a negative way, but it's finding loop holes to score and I mean you don't follow the NFL,
• 42:03
  I follow the NFL and Philadelphia Eagles did this push push which nobody could stop it and they're
• 42:09
  not sure if it's illegal and now they were trying to bring in rules because we're not sure we can
• 42:13
  allow this to go but they're not doing anything wrong officially but we can't, we can't manage to
• 42:18
  referee that bit of the game properly and that's basically where else are they've pushed boundaries
• 42:22
  to get an advantage and they do it better than everyone else. It's not always enjoyable to watch.
• 42:29
  I don't care what they want to do, I mean like I said what Pep Guardiola has done in this country
• 42:35
  is phenomenal and I'm not going to lie, I don't think you'll see a rain like it again in our
• 42:40
  lifetime, I don't think you'll see the league, did you win four times in a row? I don't think you'll
• 42:44
  see that done again in our lifetime, no one's going to win the league four times on the bounce
• 42:48
  in my opinion. It was the first time, it was three times in a row was the one that united for us.
• 42:54
  I would expect something from the three times in a row but City the broke boundaries that
• 42:57
  changed football in this country now forever but I think it's good when you see managed it like
• 43:04
  the best thing for me is David Moise isn't trying to play the Pep Guardiola team. We've got
• 43:09
  an identity to our team now under David Moise but I feel we're revolving door with the managers
• 43:13
  over the last decade. I've seen managers try and play like Pep and you haven't got the person
• 43:19
  now, it sticks out like it's just it isn't good. So do you think where do City go from here,
• 43:25
  do they sustain the run at the top with the new manager who will try and... No he's from the
• 43:31
  Pep Guardiola school, that's why. We're as good, he worked under him didn't he at City and that's
• 43:35
  one of the reasons they'll probably try and bring him in, they'll show me the job I think to keep
• 43:40
  the same. Do you think they'll stay the same because I think City's hierarchy have got to get this
• 43:46
  right in terms of Liverpool are having a difficult season now, yes they won the title last season
• 43:51
  but in my opinion because Liverpool had Jürgen Klopp as their manager was playing this all action
• 43:57
  football and all of this all running round all intense and heavy metal there you go. Salas just
• 44:05
  come up and said this week hasn't he and criticised another little shot. Yeah, no problem in my eyes,
• 44:12
  well done. No fair play. No, I wouldn't agree to that. He's entitled to me. Of course he is,
• 44:16
  but I agree to have a player. But in my opinion, although Liverpool won the title last year and I've
• 44:21
  talked about the similarities to Roberto Martinez in our time but the Liverpool hierarchy just
• 44:28
  went and got on a slot because he was probably one of the best reputation and managers around.
• 44:32
  But his actual style of football that he likes to play is nothing like Jürgen Klopp's. So
• 44:39
  what would Liverpool's hierarchy be expected because he's not going to morph his football into
• 44:45
  Jürgen Klopp's, he's going to change his football into what it is now. So Liverpool fans,
• 44:49
  and now you've seen it, shouldn't be surprised that Liverpool play like this now because this is our
• 44:53
  Arla Slots team's play, that's our team's play. So is this Arla Slots fault? Is this the
• 45:00
  Liverpool's hierarchy's fault for change? They didn't find it at the time when they should have
• 45:04
  the numbers, found who, there's the most similar manager out there to Jürgen Klopp and tried to
• 45:09
  bring him to the football club. And who would you say that is a glass net? Is it the other
• 45:12
  thing? Is it any older? They're the ones who play similar to Klopp maybe? Because it's a tag
• 45:16
  and football. I just think the top and bottom of it is, when you talk about Liverpool,
• 45:20
  their mother's two fellas have got to be called football. They brought in slot, they knew that
• 45:24
  they will have known everything about the mother's two fellas and Andrews and whatever the other name
• 45:29
  is. I don't have to look at their eye, actually. I'm only joking. I'm the same, but
• 45:34
  them two fellas in charge of Liverpool, they chose slot. Because then they, the owners of Liverpool
• 45:39
  football club, let's be brutally honest here, the all not many different franchises, not many
• 45:43
  different clubs that you really think they know everything about football, the higher people to do a
• 45:48
  job, they're interested in the economics and the money side of football, the business side of
• 45:53
  football, the higher people to do jobs. So the book stops with the two most important people of
• 45:58
  the club and that in my opinion is that Edwards and Andrew, whatever the names are, them two fellas.
• 46:02
  So they are as culpable as anybody else that club for slots. Now, every Liverpool fan is
• 46:07
  winched at this football, even when they won the league last season, by the way, it's going to say,
• 46:10
  don't forget, you did win the league and then there's a couple of changes at first. But they were
• 46:14
  winching now, they won the league, but their style of football, it's not what these, this generation
• 46:19
  of Liverpool fans have been used to watch. But do you want to get to see? Do you want to play in
• 46:22
  this football? They're all winching now because a variation of this football, because they were
• 46:27
  still, they were still mentally playing this heavy metal football to start with last season. It was
• 46:32
  just that what on a slot was bringing in every time you go forward, you don't have to keep doing
• 46:37
  this heavy metal football, especially if you're one or two now, look, get up there and then just
• 46:41
  keep the ball near to the box, wear them down. Whereas they now get to the edge of the box and
• 46:45
  keep the ball and don't have a shot or don't make calls, don't lose the shoot from the edge of the
• 46:49
  box. Gakpo has 20 shots again. One thing I'll say about slot is if he does stay, which I'm a bit
• 46:55
  reluctant to say if he does already does and all the back in him and all the sounds say that he's
• 46:59
  staying, if he does stay, if he gets off to a bad start in the first five games, he'll be gone.
• 47:04
  Oh yeah, definitely. First five games, he'll have five games to show. I've got as far as say 10,
• 47:08
  but yeah, I agree with that. I think the time on now, the fans have already made the decision on him.
• 47:13
  And then as for Meresco going in at City, I think you'll really be respected enough in terms of,
• 47:20
  he won't have the power. That's what I mean is. No one's going to have the powerpepper. No,
• 47:23
  I think he's more powerful. Especially because stones and Bernardo Silver are going
• 47:29
  and they will have been in the same way, James. They're huge influences on the dressing room.
• 47:33
  So you lose the manager and you lose your big sort of influences and you've got a younger
• 47:39
  manager. He's not young, but in his in his 10 years done less than he's done. Chelsea,
• 47:44
  he said he failed the Chelsea, although he won the club world cup. Is he going to be, is he going
• 47:49
  to have the same? So I think he's the one that Chelsea, I think he's the one that Chelsea,
• 47:53
  I just think he stepped. He challenged the hierarchy. Once you challenge that hierarchy
• 48:00
  and a football club, if you don't have the power of a Pep Guardiola or only Micheal and Pep Guardiola
• 48:06
  are the only two managers in the league that can question the hierarchy of their club and get away
• 48:10
  with it. Everyone else is up. Everyone else is on senderux. You cannot question the hierarchy of
• 48:15
  your club. Any other manager, I don't get who it is. The not possible. Only Pep and I only
• 48:20
  Pep and Micheal can get away with that. And I think when Mariska goes in there, he's going to find
• 48:25
  out and I'll tell you right now, I think the most important player that Mariska has to win over
• 48:30
  and the player that can win it all and change it all for him is full folding. I think if he gets
• 48:35
  full folding on side, that boys the difference from Manchester City because when that boy is on the
• 48:41
  ball, he has every single thing you can imagine. He's got a bit of a nod or silver in him,
• 48:45
  he's got a bit of dabbid silver in him, he's got a bit of Kevin De Bruyne in him. If you can put
• 48:48
  that kid as that's my man, that's the boy I'm placing all my trust in you, City or Rain again.
• 48:54
  You could do. And then they can talk to the hierarchy. Well, I can't say.
• 49:01
  When you're from Skenn, you can get away with these words. But when you're a scout set and a
• 49:06
  punchy one at that, the hierarchy, it's a struggle. I'm not going to lie. It's a struggle.
• 49:21
  And I think you've actually think you made a good point there with Phil Fowell. You get people
• 49:25
  like that on side. You've given a long-term contract. Congratulations to Pep and City, that will
• 49:30
  be well done to them. I don't think you're going to win the title. I think I'm not even sure they
• 49:38
  get a result against Bournemouth. So when by the time this comes out, generally Thursdays,
• 49:43
  isn't it? No. City might have lost against Bournemouth, so it might be done. But I think City
• 49:48
  will win the next two games, especially in our peps, come on and set that. You think so? Yeah,
• 49:52
  I so I don't know what to do. We've also got Crystal Palace away. That's the last game.
• 49:59
  So do play the 37 now. Palace might be a heads on the final.
• 50:02
  The Palace of Final. The Europa Final and the Wednesday after it. Is this the Sunday's it?
• 50:07
  That's the Wednesday game. Oh, that's not good. So you'd think Palace of Rest and Players and
• 50:13
  I think it's wrong. The way the cup finals have all been brought forward. I know that's
• 50:16
  happening with the World Cup and stuff, but I'm not going to lie. I don't like it. International
• 50:21
  football comes second. I don't care. I'm not going to say it. Look, the Europa Final in the conference
• 50:28
  final exactly the same time that they always are. I know, but the other finals have to be
• 50:32
  brought forward. The FA Cup was brought was decided to be a week before the end of the season,
• 50:37
  but at least this year they didn't play any games the same time. The FA Cup was the most
• 50:42
  prestigious cup in World Football. I think it's the oldest. It's the most prestigious. The most
• 50:47
  prestigious cup competition in World Football. I don't know people say the Champions League, but
• 50:51
  it hasn't been going anywhere near as long as the FA Cup and we should treat it like the
• 50:56
  diamond that it is. We don't. And bringing it forward to the piece for the World Cup. No,
• 51:00
  no. You're dancing to Arjun. We're the most powerful league in the world. I have a span.
• 51:06
  I have a span and goal. Listen, no, we're sticking to our guns here. This is the most important
• 51:11
  cup in the world. So you know, just have a bit of backbone. FA. It's a heavy that on it.
• 51:18
  No, are you great? I think it makes it less exciting.
• 51:21
  I'm sure we talked about this before in terms of it should be at the end. It should be our last
• 51:28
  showcase piece of the season and if someone gets into the Champions League final after that
• 51:33
  brilliant, we could watch that as well, but the FA Cup should be. Should be our last one. But I
• 51:39
  think I don't know if it was anything to do with the World Cup. I don't know if it's anything
• 51:42
  to do with it because the next season's first game of the season is at least a week later
• 51:48
  than normal because of, I presume, because of the World Cup. So we always have to think that
• 51:52
  that comes into it a little bit. Now, going back to the original question to do Arsenal win
• 51:57
  a palace then? You'd have to say so. We'll say they limped over the line against Bernal.
• 52:02
  Yeah, they look nervous. It wasn't quite as easy as you expect. It was going to be fours
• 52:08
  and fives. Everybody was thinking it was going to be a big celebration. Do you?
• 52:13
  Or at least if there were still level on points, the Arsenal were looking at
• 52:18
  thing and this is our chance to go and get five goals and give put the title back around it.
• 52:22
  I've brought that to a city down the right place. They won't want to know.
• 52:25
  City down the right place. City will win them one down a half time. I haven't seen the team
• 52:29
  better, but I'm looking forward to it. I've held their hands in the scene. Not first off,
• 52:34
  that's the best I've seen the team play. But the second half is quite apparent. Peps,
• 52:38
  come in and say, listen, this could go down to gold if it's going to get us more goals.
• 52:41
  I think our gap has gone in and our half time gone. Do you know what, that's losing one now?
• 52:45
  Just have a goal. Stop shooting a shot and by them going for the throat and then for us
• 52:50
  just having a little go back, the whole game opened up. We see more than unfolded, but I think
• 52:54
  for Arsenal, they got over the line. Yeah, they're nervous. You'd have to say go into palace
• 52:58
  against what you've just said to Arsenal. You'd have to say Arsenal should be able to get
• 53:06
  over the line. You'd have to say. And again, as I said, I'm not sure city win.
• 53:11
  I just think Bournemouth, when they're going for the champ Bournemouth, we're getting the
• 53:14
  Champions League this year. Congratulations to them. I've done a brilliant job. Could be
• 53:19
  him for manager of the year. You've got, if you get all of potential, you've got Keith Andrews
• 53:26
  who's took them from the Champions League. People thought it was getting relegated to actually
• 53:29
  get in the Champions League for Bournemouth. You and I, Emory, qualified for the Champions League
• 53:32
  and an Europa League final. Sondor and manager coming up and doing what he's done.
• 53:36
  Regis Lebris, who, when I was talking on the show during the Monday of the first week,
• 53:41
  if they came up into the Premier League, I called him Roger Lebris.
• 53:45
  To his face. No, down the camera live. He's like, we can hear from Roger Lebris.
• 53:52
  Please tell me, you tell me, correct the job. No. Oh, you know what? So that didn't go that well.
• 53:59
  Regis Lebris. So yeah, he's done a brilliant job and I'll set it. I think about
• 54:03
  I'll set the wins the league. I think, I think it is. I think because it's the first time they've
• 54:08
  won it in 22 years. I think if they won, I think if they've won. And what he looked done with regards
• 54:12
  to wrestling away from maybe not Liverpool this season, but City and I think he's done a great job,
• 54:16
  regardless of what anyone does. I do. I think Michael, I think Michael's done an amazing job.
• 54:21
  Fairflation. There's a few up for it though this year. Well, I do think, I think if, if
• 54:26
  Eddie Ola gets champions, I think there's no, there's no good, I think without a shadow, that
• 54:32
  that as an achievement is bigger than anything else. That goes, that could potentially go down
• 54:38
  to sixth, but that means so as the villa have to win the Europa League and finish.
• 54:45
  It's really well and finish fifth in the league. If they, if they win the Europa League and
• 54:50
  finish fourth, it's really well. It looks like they're going to finish in the top four, but if
• 54:54
  they win the Europa League and finish in the top four, of course, Liverpool and then five. Then
• 54:58
  Champions League places only goes down to five teams. If they win the Europa League and finish fifth,
• 55:03
  then we can get number six team. That's why we don't win the Europa League last year,
• 55:07
  but we've got in. Yeah, which is amazing. In through that position in top five,
• 55:12
  still got it through the league. So it was, yeah, it's complicated, but yeah, that's still not
• 55:18
  completely out of it. Are we? Because that isn't officially numbers wise. It can still get you
• 55:23
  in your potentially if that's what I've said. That's what happens if you win the Europa. So we
• 55:30
  should win the conference. We should. So it would go tonight if, if Villa go as I just said,
• 55:37
  in fifth, which means Champions League goes down to six, then you get two, then you get two
• 55:42
  Europa League slots and a conference slot. So that gets you down to ninth. I'm not sure what
• 55:48
  the effect of Palace win in the conference does. You've got to go in Europa. Yeah,
• 55:53
  so I don't know if that gives us an extra Europa League position. So that would make three,
• 55:57
  or it would still just take one of the two. I'm not exactly sure. I'm pretty sure the top nine
• 56:02
  get you into your. And we've still got a chance of finishing night. We're 11th right now. We need
• 56:07
  a few results to go our way. We do that all we know. And we'd have to beat Spurs. Yeah, but I think
• 56:12
  Spurs are safe now. Mm-hmm. Hey, that's done. You know, we've been up with that belief. Think
• 56:17
  behind you. There's a sign just behind Sony for those who aren't watching it that says believe.
• 56:20
  Mm-hmm. I've never really knew what that was, but I've just watched Ted Lasso this week. Yeah.
• 56:25
  I've watched it. Ted Lasso. Yeah. Believe so. I've never really known, but just up to the
• 56:33
  episode with the show. Ted Lasso was a TV program about an American family knows it's
• 56:41
  for poor cultures. Yeah, but then he comes over to do an English team called Richmond. Oh wow.
• 56:45
  Who play at Palaces ground? That's their home ground. And that's part one of the episodes he
• 56:50
  makes this sign about trying to go his team to believe. And that's that's what that sign is.
• 56:54
  So I've stared at that. Yeah, it's just, yeah, it's just they got me there. I've stared at that for
• 56:56
  a while now. I'll use plug. I never knew what it was. I'll use plug and things again. You know,
• 57:00
  just Ted Lasso will never know. Yeah, so if I can get any Ted Lasso merchandise. Well, yeah,
• 57:06
  I've got a person, so go on back, Spurs. I mean, don't know how we got to leave. But yeah,
• 57:10
  it is Spurs West. You think Spurs are safe. Yeah, I think West. I'm gone. I don't even know
• 57:16
  West. I've got last game. Sorry, and I don't know. But I know West. I've got leads. Spurs are
• 57:20
  lead to safe. So West, I would have to beat leads. And we'd have to beat Spurs. Imagine, you know
• 57:25
  what? I'm not going to lie. I think we can depend on how that could happen. But, but Spurs play
• 57:32
  Chelsea tonight. As we're talking so that could actually. Spurs are safe. Spurs beat Chelsea to
• 57:39
  one more away. At Chelsea. I think OK. And where to Chelsea in the league?
• 57:46
  Four fifths. I think in the minutes six. No, they're there. Chelsea six or seven. They need
• 57:49
  them. They really need a win. Oh, OK. But Chelsea haven't been playing great. But Alonzo has
• 57:55
  just become Chelsea's new manager, hasn't he? Yeah, but he's not in yet. Is he?
• 57:58
  No, but there's this feel of he'll be watching us now and we're going to have to play well.
• 58:02
  And they also want to just have an effect of us. Yeah, of course. It should do.
• 58:07
  Would it is one point? Would he come in the dressing room, do you think?
• 58:09
  And have a little pop. I don't think so. I don't think yet. Would he have been at the
• 58:13
  training ground if he's agreed to be the manager? Yeah, I don't know. Well, actually, don't know
• 58:17
  whether the red when he picked when he starts his actual role, whether he's in there. He's also
• 58:21
  another one, any, you know, our lovely pool, my kids are scouting on that. No, he's not.
• 58:28
  No, he's not. He's also a Pep Guardiola man as well. Haven't worked with him at Real Madrid.
• 58:33
  He's all about the influence of Pep again. I just, I'm, you know, uh,
• 58:36
  I'll still cop out. He's going, you know, he's our man and he's, uh, he's pal.
• 58:40
  No, he's not. He's not bothered. That's twice. He's knocked you back now. He's laughing at you.
• 58:44
  It is, don't we? That's always to be out politely honest here. I'm sick of the big loving
• 58:47
  forum. You've got Steven Gerrard sitting there who's probably the one of the greatest,
• 58:52
  if not the greatest legend you clubs ever had. And I was in on your stuff. I was in a part of
• 58:56
  I was in a part of the conversation. Well, he couldn't be up until very recently because of his
• 59:01
  contract with in Saudi. He said he couldn't manage here. I've been in here until a certain date.
• 59:07
  So he's work of the TV. So that's fine. But I think he, well, he's taught, they were talking about
• 59:12
  barely. It's like the connection with barely. I picked up a phone and gone, Steven Gerrard.
• 59:17
  Do you want to come in please? I'm probably worried about him having too much influence
• 59:21
  within the squad. I'll just come in and I'll come in and see that. Imagine now bringing,
• 59:25
  Steven Gerrard in and then the fans are going, like, things aren't going well. Let's just say it
• 59:30
  was 10 games in next season and then they're going right out you going, Steven Z. And I'm ready
• 59:34
  to take the rub. Johnny, people like all the slot will be like, I don't know if I want him,
• 59:38
  I don't know if I want him that close. Yeah, Johnny, I think it in there. Yeah. So you know,
• 59:42
  it's only better. I just think he's a good fit. He's only you starting to like a long zone now
• 59:48
  then because he keeps turning them down. I think it's hilarious. I'm just, because all of it,
• 59:52
  I've got quite this. He's coming. He's going to be amazing what he don't like because not
• 59:55
  I mean, yeah, great. He's coming. No, he's not. No, he's not. He's not coming.
• 1:00:00
  I know the full fans are old now for Lewis and Ricky. Wow. Now that would be, I don't want to see
• 1:00:04
  that. No, I don't want to see that. What he's created a PSG and there's the frightening part.
• 1:00:10
  He lost possibly, he let go of PSG's best ever player and he's talked him to another level.
• 1:00:16
  Well, that's, have you seen some of his, some of the videos on him talking to the likes of
• 1:00:20
  them, and talking to people in the dressing room and showing, showing the character he is and
• 1:00:25
  talking, properly talking down to these people in terms of, I don't care who you are. I'm the manager,
• 1:00:32
  my way, the highway respect. You see that influence on on the team. I know he's saying that
• 1:00:37
  they all have to run and they all have to be involved in every victory. And you can see that
• 1:00:42
  on his team. That's true. That's true. Yeah. That people can still be a manager.
• 1:00:46
  Did we, what was our bet on that? You had PSG and I had buy a Munich. What was, did we,
• 1:00:51
  we don't know what any cash did we? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know,
• 1:00:56
  so you're going to keep saying that. No, no, no, no. You put, you know, I kind of do.
• 1:01:01
  Why did you pick, why would you pick buying by the way? Because you picked PSG and I said,
• 1:01:05
  I'll take buy it. No, you picked buying first. I said PSG. Okay. Okay. I'll watch it back. But
• 1:01:11
  we're all in agreement though. Arsenal going to win the league. Rest down, but relegated.
• 1:01:14
  I'm not on the Arsenal. You know, I need, I'm not on the, I just need to see PSG probably
• 1:01:21
  pick Arsenal, but I'm not surprised if Arsenal do win, but I didn't know any of it. I think
• 1:01:26
  I think the leagues up the grabs and I think that that final, I think I have no idea, but that
• 1:01:33
  final because I don't think anyone can defend when they purely set out to defend as well as Arsenal.
• 1:01:39
  Last year, Arsenal, PSG in the group stages, two in the Arsenal, because I was at the Emirates
• 1:01:45
  doing the commentary for that one. And PSG would miles off the pace. And Arsenal were very good.
• 1:01:51
  I couldn't believe Arsenal, sorry, I couldn't believe PSG went on to become the team they did
• 1:01:55
  by the end of last season, because they were easily the best team in the country in the world
• 1:01:58
  or certainly in Europe. And I think that happened again. This year they started really slowly,
• 1:02:03
  but getting up to the business and now they are starting to pick. Is that down to fitness and
• 1:02:08
  peaking at the right time? You just show off and it comes in because the PSG IC in that club
• 1:02:12
  will cup where there wasn't a club will cup where they weren't the same PSGFC in the Champions League.
• 1:02:19
  Even at the start of the Champions League groups. They were losing games.
• 1:02:22
  They weren't, they weren't the finished start of the club, but then you look at City,
• 1:02:28
  Real Madrid definitely by a minute to a lot of extent. In the top European competitions,
• 1:02:35
  they always seem to get better and better as they go along. Arsenal won every game pretty much,
• 1:02:40
  they won the group and they've done brilliant to get to the final, but the likes of PSG just
• 1:02:45
  seem to time they're on to be the first to win it. Do you want me to tell Arsenal to win it?
• 1:02:51
  I want to say my one Arsenal to win it. I mean, my cup, I mean, we're three of a minority,
• 1:02:57
  by the way. Everyone has to hear it. I think Arsenal are now possibly the most hated club in the
• 1:03:03
  world and it's down to their fan bases. I mean, I want them to win. I just always want the best
• 1:03:11
  team to win. Whoever deserves to win should win. I hate seeing teams like I can't say either team
• 1:03:16
  doesn't deserve to win though. I hate when teams don't well to get there. I hate teams like,
• 1:03:20
  you know, when, and this is not like this, but when athletes come and get there far,
• 1:03:25
  then semi-only does what he does. If I have frustrated me and I know he's because he's just
• 1:03:30
  it's a horrible way to win things. At least you and people are kind of linking him,
• 1:03:34
  semi-only, like Mick Lottet at the times. And I don't, I don't think that's what Arsenal are.
• 1:03:38
  I think Arsenal are the right time to hear. I've gone for it and I'm pressed to.
• 1:03:42
  But I also do see the side of the sport where there is games where they've gone into
• 1:03:46
  against City of Colbert. I've just gone, you know what we're coming to, shut up,
• 1:03:49
  shut, and we'll have a goal in three kicks. So I think that shows great face,
• 1:03:53
  tells you as a manager. And I've never, I haven't really seen that from an athletic side. I've seen
• 1:03:58
  that a lot more from Arsenal's perspective this season. It's not just defense and whatever I
• 1:04:03
  be because defense can't just do what they've done. It can't get to a challenge they can't
• 1:04:07
  get. It's where they are in the lead position. They do score goals. They are a threat from all over
• 1:04:10
  the park. And I think Liverpool fans, especially I've just got it in for Arsenal. And I think it's
• 1:04:17
  because they see what they was a little bit in them because Liverpool are the great defense
• 1:04:23
  when they were winning the league a couple of years ago. Liverpool were great on the on the attack
• 1:04:27
  and doing what they were doing. And they just don't like it. Liverpool were getting corners,
• 1:04:31
  left right intense and scoring them. You know, it was happening. It's just that now that it's
• 1:04:35
  happening against you. You don't like it. And you throw it all back in everyone's face.
• 1:04:39
  And must also say that thing, you know, was a foul.
• 1:04:43
  I'm right. And I don't care how many screen shots people want to get up.
• 1:04:47
  Yeah, I know. It's not. That's a foul. He's got a hold of his arm and his arms across his throat.
• 1:04:52
  It's definitely a foul. But there was loads going on in the box though. Everybody was
• 1:04:57
  fouling everybody. There was people hooking and grabbing and sort of selling and all. So it's
• 1:05:00
  what's the answers that are? What do you do? Do you punish someone? I think you
• 1:05:06
  I think you've got to something's got to be done. I think they can't carry on like that when
• 1:05:11
  you've got the likes of you're a player. What's the big thing? Just in that moment,
• 1:05:14
  you've got the likes of it. And this is across the whole of football of them,
• 1:05:18
  the little fellas trussards. McAllister does it. And they are just grabbing hold
• 1:05:22
  and trying to stop being the fellas doing it. It is a foul. How would you police that?
• 1:05:28
  You're the player. But no, they're silver against Merlin Roller, our place. And then they come
• 1:05:33
  out and said it should have been a penalty. So thanks very much for thanks very much for that
• 1:05:38
  for the honesty. They've got to they've got to try and do. I don't exactly know. There's been
• 1:05:42
  there's been a few different sort of thing. The guy won the guy down in can. The extra lines
• 1:05:49
  went on matter of the day didn't he and said he would not have anybody in the six yard box.
• 1:05:53
  I'm not quite sure what that solves. It won't get people round the keeper, but you'll still get
• 1:05:57
  people tussling. He grabbed that in the six yard box until the current corners took. That's the
• 1:06:02
  really he said he'd come up with, but I don't think that stops. No, that's ridiculous. He did
• 1:06:07
  said it on matter of day. I just don't know if that stops grappling everywhere. I just think
• 1:06:10
  that it doesn't stop. I think it wants the ball goes something along the lines or once the ball is
• 1:06:13
  placed in the little quadrants at the court of like, although the whistle's not been blown,
• 1:06:18
  it's live. So everyone knows as soon as you tussle and you grab then it could be a foul.
• 1:06:23
  Interesting. It's quite often people try and do the grappling until the corner comes in and then
• 1:06:28
  they'll let go because we've got to remember football's a physical game. It's always been an old way
• 1:06:33
  I play this. No, no, it's not a times of change, but you've still got to remember. You know,
• 1:06:38
  that can't evade the loss. It is still a physical game. This is a non-contact sport. This is a
• 1:06:45
  contact sport and you've got to allow people to have a little bit of a push in the show. I get
• 1:06:49
  there's variations on them, pushes and shoves and pulls, whatever have you. But the things that you
• 1:06:56
  can see when you can have an all of a keepers arm and pulling it down, then you've got your arm
• 1:07:00
  across the road. It's as clear as day. I don't care. And everyone's got their own agendas,
• 1:07:04
  which they want to follow and go. It's a foul. Look at these other six stills where Arsenal are
• 1:07:08
  getting away with it. It doesn't matter. Obviously, well, the mistakes are made then.
• 1:07:12
  They've not made the mistake this time because that's a foul. So it is what it is. What about then,
• 1:07:17
  we're talking about it. We haven't even touched on the Scottish one. The decision to have a
• 1:07:23
  ham ball against what do you think about that? You're the player. I don't think it was clear and
• 1:07:32
  obvious. So I don't think the VAR should have got involved. The last concept, for the long
• 1:07:38
  throwings come in for anyone who hasn't seen it. That goes up to head it. He's tussling with
• 1:07:43
  with the Celtic sort of fellow who goes down holding his head so he didn't know it was an elbow
• 1:07:46
  at first, but it wasn't. People just claiming for everything. Then he goes to head it and his hand
• 1:07:51
  is really close to where the ball is. I just don't think from the contact and the way the ball
• 1:07:59
  goes miles away, it's not even if it hits his hand, it's a majority head. It's not clear and
• 1:08:08
  clear and obvious. I can't tell. It may have, it is and it may not have. I can't take it that far away.
• 1:08:13
  You look at the man United decision that they got the goal against La Poole Césco where it
• 1:08:18
  probably brushed off his fingers on its way in. But in the first two minutes of looking at it,
• 1:08:23
  I couldn't conclusively say. You're saying probably we still don't know if that even such
• 1:08:27
  is on. No, it looks like it did. More likely than not. More likely than not and it probably did.
• 1:08:34
  But is there enough video evidence to conclusively say? I think it probably did. I don't know if
• 1:08:41
  it's completely conclusive. And that's the way I feel about the Celtic one. I don't. I don't
• 1:08:47
  can hand the ballable on the goals that far out. That's what I'm saying. But it may have
• 1:08:51
  touched his hand a little bit as he said, isn't it? A little bit. But he's headed it. But he's
• 1:08:55
  headed it and it's not influenced anything. And that's decided that their title. I know.
• 1:09:00
  That's decided their title. That is an incredible. Just a coincidence. It's Celtic who
• 1:09:05
  got that decision. Because it let me tell you if that was hard, it would have got the same
• 1:09:08
  decision. And that's the big shout. You know what I mean? You've just, you've just
• 1:09:12
  been at a bit of pivotal history in the Scottish league there. 66 years, I think it's been
• 1:09:17
  since the last 60 odd since they won it. But also 40 years since a non-old firm tier at one
• 1:09:24
  that's just frightening. And that was nearly it. Was that Alex Ferguson with Aberdeen who won it last?
• 1:09:28
  Yeah, probably a 80s. Well, he went to United in 86. So I must have been 84.
• 1:09:35
  On a margin. You know, 84 because they won the cup. I think they won the European.
• 1:09:40
  I'm sure he won the European cup. That is what an achievement Alex Ferguson done there.
• 1:09:44
  People don't even talk about that. Won the Scottish league and then won the European cup.
• 1:09:48
  Oh, my lord. And he's the last person to win the league outside of Celtic and Rangers.
• 1:09:55
  Could you imagine what he'd done if he was Celtic or Rangers manager?
• 1:09:59
  He brought Scottish football could be a different thing now. But he goes to you and I think
• 1:10:03
  I think all city and Liverpool fans wish he were the gun and been
• 1:10:06
  just shows you how great Alex Ferguson was way ahead of his time.
• 1:10:14
  And I think that's the reason why probably he's the greatest manager ever. Better than Pepp.
• 1:10:20
  Pepp's right on everyone's different managers. But at different managers in style wise,
• 1:10:25
  I'd love to see them better against you after an absolute absolute league.
• 1:10:30
  He's got to be talked about up there with them. What he's done with PSG, the way they play,
• 1:10:34
  the speed and the place to play. I mean, he's just a legend.
• 1:10:41
  I'm not Lewis Henry. He is the big part. You've seen that face game of PSG and buying
• 1:10:46
  once again, he's just showed you. He can use a completely different set of tactics
• 1:10:50
  and I can show games off as well. Because everyone was, I watched that second leg.
• 1:10:53
  I didn't catch all the first leg, but I've seen the second leg and I was like,
• 1:10:56
  I can't wait to see this again. I just thought, the more I was watching, I just thought,
• 1:10:59
  you're a genius. You can just go, I'm not having this. I didn't watch the first leg,
• 1:11:03
  but I watched the second leg. I can't wait to see this again. I've not watched the first leg.
• 1:11:07
  I've watched it to the face. I've obviously seen all the highlights, but
• 1:11:11
  someone was once again awake in us. You know, some of us have got to put... That was awake for me.
• 1:11:15
  Of course it was. One fantastic job. But someone was after a look at people punching other people
• 1:11:20
  in the face and that's where, but I thought in that second, I just thought, wow, you've gone to
• 1:11:26
  buying and just gone, we're going to shut you down and we're going to hit you on the break
• 1:11:29
  when we feel like and we've got the personnel and players to do whatever we want to do
• 1:11:33
  when we want to do it. I just think when they come up against Arsenal, if Mikhail sets out and
• 1:11:38
  goes, listen, we can't concede nor go on for anything for the first 70 minutes. When you get your
• 1:11:42
  chance at them on the break, they're one side, they can't hold you back because them say,
• 1:11:46
  my only worry is who plays right back because everything else picks itself at Arsenal.
• 1:11:50
  I think the team's actually done, but that right back position, I think the audience
• 1:11:54
  must get it out. They're hoping Tim is back for us, we've said before. I don't think anyone wants
• 1:12:00
  their first game back to be, you know, I haven't been out for, what, because he can't have done any
• 1:12:05
  fit this way. I've been out for six weeks minimum, your first game is back up against Cavalier
• 1:12:11
  and Ben Ballet coming over that as well. That's tough, but they'll try and get him out there,
• 1:12:15
  if they can. Who's going to win the ball and door this year? I think it's all on the Champions League
• 1:12:18
  final. You've got the World Cup. I know the World Cup is the combo. You can't just win,
• 1:12:24
  you can't stop a great World Cup and win it. I know where you're saying Messi did. I know where you're
• 1:12:28
  saying Messi. You can't, but that's because it's Messi. That's probably on us, brutally. I mean,
• 1:12:31
  did he deserve to win the ball and door that year? That's all we just put out. I'm as big as
• 1:12:35
  fan, war and I come, we're legend, but that was the year Harland won every trophy. And you know
• 1:12:41
  where you deserve the ball and door that year. But this year, I think it'll be one, I don't think
• 1:12:46
  the World Cup will decide the ball and door. I think it could be, I think it's a little for grabs.
• 1:12:50
  I think if Harry Kane would have been in the Champions League and won the Champions League and
• 1:12:53
  the League, I think it should have been him, possibly because he's out now. I think that tits him a
• 1:12:58
  little bit. Well, that's the right position now, isn't he? He could win the League, he could win
• 1:13:01
  the Champions League and then have England win the World Cup. Does that not throw him in the mix?
• 1:13:04
  It doesn't actually, but he couldn't even win the football rightist play of the year,
• 1:13:08
  Bruno Fernandez won that. Yeah. So I think that's, I think that's, I think,
• 1:13:12
  the best player in your league. I'm not saying he isn't the best player in his league,
• 1:13:15
  but he wasn't picked by the, by the press and, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's a nice,
• 1:13:21
  more important to Arsenal than Bruno Fernandez is to United. Oh, that's a good question.
• 1:13:26
  No, it's because that's what I do.
• 1:13:30
  Who's more important? At the minute, Declan Rice is hugely important for us,
• 1:13:38
  because he's driving them forward to being able to compete for leagues and compete for,
• 1:13:42
  for trophies. Bruno Fernandez is everything positive about, not ever the positive.
• 1:13:49
  But Bruno Fernandez is the centerpiece of my night, taking him out of my United,
• 1:13:52
  and I'm not even sure where they finished. Yeah, I agree, yeah. Whereas you could probably take
• 1:13:56
  Declan Rice out and they'll be, they'll be, they'll be competing near the top of the league,
• 1:14:00
  but they won't be where they are. You can do what Declan Rice can do. Do you not think it's
• 1:14:05
  a question? I haven't got a clue. Do you think that, I think, I think he's, I, I love that,
• 1:14:11
  I'm at kit for United. I think he's brilliant. Yeah. And I think he needs to be given more of a chance.
• 1:14:16
  Yeah, but Bruno's the leader of that team. Yeah, sure.
• 1:14:19
  And he's done well, but he's had, he has had a really good season with what's that Michael
• 1:14:23
  Catequan could be given. But only eight in, um, open play. Sorry, thank you.
• 1:14:28
  Only eight of those assists were an open play. Oh, that was Michael Catequan. That doesn't matter.
• 1:14:32
  It doesn't, it does matter, but it, it's on set pieces. He gets, he's, Roy, the role was in,
• 1:14:37
  he gets to take absolutely three kicks, Corn, but on top of all that, I'll go to Michael
• 1:14:43
  Catequan. Brilliant. Mike Michael as well. Yeah, I don't know, but I think he's done a great job.
• 1:14:48
  He's done a brilliant job, yeah. I mean, they come out and said he's the manager now. Yeah.
• 1:14:51
  They've done the big, two year contract with the years extension, maybe. That's not much, is it?
• 1:14:56
  It's all right in modern, modern terms, two years, two years with the years.
• 1:15:00
  They went, he went, expect and certainly kept on. I don't think was he, so. No, it's got them
• 1:15:04
  champions of the football. Yeah, so the big test is for him about, that's what they're all saying.
• 1:15:08
  You've been the right to now have two games a week. I think he needs, I think he needs back,
• 1:15:12
  and this is the question because they put him in today, back him, like follow him, give him
• 1:15:18
  money to spend, considering they weren't even sure if they want him to be the manager at first,
• 1:15:22
  because with two games a week, that squad needs a lot of of this.
• 1:15:25
  Miles Rushwoods come out and said that he's trying to lie in the sand, he doesn't want to go back.
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  Is he? Yeah, he's come out and said he wants to stay a Barcelona.
• 1:15:32
  I mean, I'm playing really. I mean, Barcelona sounds like a nice place, he's looks there.
• 1:15:38
  Is he, though, because he's not starting every week? Well, he's just good, the wind are against
• 1:15:41
  them. I think, yeah, he's got some protocols, and the lifestyle must be great up there, yeah.
• 1:15:46
  No one's hassling them up there and what a what a player he is. I just meant living on the beach
• 1:15:51
  and sunshine and all that. Yeah. Well, we spoke a lot about managers today, we'll finish on this,
• 1:15:56
  two shows, got a couple of decisions to make for Friday, who gets in the England squad.
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  What I'm going to ask you is, who would be your surprise player that makes the squad,
• 1:16:05
  and who would be maybe a surprise in mission? So you don't have to pick the whole squad,
• 1:16:08
  somebody who's a surprise who gets in, somebody who's a surprise who doesn't make it.
• 1:16:14
  I think the surprise to get in will be charter brand twits.
• 1:16:17
  Yeah, because he's injured.
• 1:16:19
  That'd be a huge surprise. I know that, but you know, I add them and he had them
• 1:16:22
  penciled in the squad. So you would put them in? No, I'm not, so I'm just saying he'd be the
• 1:16:26
  surprise, because he was penciled in, but I didn't think he was ever going to be your surprise,
• 1:16:30
  who gets in. So why don't you think it's been great this season, who not everybody else?
• 1:16:34
  Jimmy Garner's every day. Jimmy Garner's been brilliance.
• 1:16:37
  Yeah, but I'm not class and it was a surprise. I think he should be in anyway,
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  and I think he's got a really good chance of being in. I really do, because I think he's
• 1:16:47
  quite similar to Elliot Anderson. He's quite similar to Elliot Anderson. Whereas
• 1:16:53
  you've got Coby Maynu and Adam Boat, and he'll probably compete in as well to be in there.
• 1:16:58
  Connogalligan maybe. I think Garner's for the role that he'd need to play in,
• 1:17:03
  not sent him to fieldplay. So I think Garner's probably as close to being a proper
• 1:17:09
  just swap for Elliot Anderson than anyone. So I think he's got a real good, good opportunity.
• 1:17:14
  The reason you've got to say Jimmy Garner, and I'll tell you this right now, is the versatility,
• 1:17:18
  that boy can play anywhere. He can do a job for you anywhere, so he can cover the right back.
• 1:17:23
  He can cover on the right side of the midfield. He can play central midfield. He can do a job for
• 1:17:27
  you anywhere, and that's why he has to go to World Cup. Because we don't have a player that will
• 1:17:31
  just go into all of them different positions. I mean, at times for the season 11, he's played
• 1:17:35
  right back, left back, sentiment, right wing, left wing. There's not another player who's played
• 1:17:40
  so many positions for England, sorry for Devon, or their club team. So that for me, it's a must.
• 1:17:48
  I think he will be a surprise for people outside of Devon.
• 1:17:52
  Right, yeah. No, you're probably right, actually. He played those two warm-up games, didn't he?
• 1:17:57
  I don't know. So he did well. He showed two cool spots. So maybe for those people outside,
• 1:18:03
  he was a surprise us who's like a shock. Is that Arsenal kid would be taking him or be a risky?
• 1:18:08
  Look, he looks. Don't. Yeah, back, down the night on that you can take him. He's not even playing
• 1:18:14
  regularly for Arsenal. He is in the squads and that, but he's not ready for a World Cup. You're not
• 1:18:19
  using him in that way. A mission was to do a World Cup years ago, and then he just
• 1:18:25
  highlighted it. Just put a lot of highlights on his game that probably put unnecessary pressure on him.
• 1:18:31
  To be honest, which only he could tell you whether that affected is
• 1:18:36
  a little more later, you think is he definitely going on and he might not all the one
• 1:18:40
  players just on the verge of it. You think I'll look at it left backs and probably going back a year.
• 1:18:45
  Miles Lewis Skelly was maybe first choice left back and now I don't think he goes.
• 1:18:50
  That's it. He get this. I think oh, Riley goes and maybe there's a whole Riley goes as left
• 1:18:55
  back. He got liberal mental. Oh, surprise. It's a tough one. He's battling him a hundred percent
• 1:19:01
  because he's back playing. Yeah. I think he is. Yeah. Maybe he'll be in there.
• 1:19:04
  No, he's got to be in there, but if he's in there, no, no, no, no, no, no, you've got to take him.
• 1:19:10
  I don't care what anyone is. He's the one who came to mind when he first asked the question
• 1:19:13
  because no, he's a must. No, he's a must. I would take him in terms of it's not been his best
• 1:19:17
  18 months. Now, he's called Palmer. He's another one who's called Palmer. Yeah,
• 1:19:21
  both of them are so and I think because both of them have out of a little bit of form,
• 1:19:27
  both of them are similar. I think he probably only takes one of them. Really? You think he leaves
• 1:19:32
  co-parmidol? Well, neither of them are in this first 11. Really? I don't think either of them are
• 1:19:37
  in our first 11 at the moment. You're not having one of them as a 10. I don't know if he's
• 1:19:41
  battling him. He plays it, don't he? Or Morgan Rogers or even Morgan Gibbs White might be the
• 1:19:47
  the inclusion he scored 14. So go ahead and say he could be around there as well. As he goes in there,
• 1:19:52
  so I don't think you've got to take him forwarded. I'd you've got to take them just for the size of
• 1:19:57
  the players and the magnitude of the what they can do. We try and play in them and stuff,
• 1:20:00
  mate. So I think you probably just take one of them. I think all of them gets left on the same
• 1:20:05
  way. That's a brave call. That means you leave one of them. That's we've got some brilliant players.
• 1:20:10
  Well, you look at that. That's a brave decision. Is what I always try and say,
• 1:20:14
  I just want us to go into the tournament and obviously the press get around this as well.
• 1:20:19
  It's going to be the first 11 and the first game and then we seem to be like, well, that must
• 1:20:24
  be our strongest 11. We have to play that 11 every single game now and I'm more of the opinion
• 1:20:29
  that we've got 26 pretty impressive players. If we went in the first game, Bellingham number 10,
• 1:20:36
  we went in the second game, Morgan Rogers number 10. I'd be all right with that top.
• 1:20:41
  And then you're making a freshness and a rotate. So I think the only one that really plays
• 1:20:45
  every game is Harry Kane. I think he can because of his style. But then you have to have people
• 1:20:49
  running beyond him like they do it by a minute. They have a leech say and they have Lewis D.
• 1:20:54
  as running, making the pitch long. We've got to do that. But the rest of the team, I would semi-rotate.
• 1:21:00
  I don't think by a sack of raster play on that right off that right every single time. We've got
• 1:21:05
  enough players that it's not a gamble if... So you just said the only person who you think has
• 1:21:10
  to start every game is Kane. You believe that? I think Bellingham is the exact same. I think that
• 1:21:14
  the first two nights she... The first name on the team sheet is Bellingham and Kane, the first two.
• 1:21:19
  After that, that's right. I love the race, such as they had the Bellingham. Sorry, Jordan.
• 1:21:23
  Jordan, you're sparing your team. You're going to get to the 11 players, you know? No, no.
• 1:21:28
  Well, if I was to remind you, I think it's the absolute they've got to play. Pickford,
• 1:21:34
  Gay, Bellingham, Kane, I think the rest of the grabs. Yeah, I would go, go, go, keep it.
• 1:21:41
  That's your spine. Two centre-arts, whichever you decide. Two centre-arts, then. No, I'm talking
• 1:21:46
  about that because you can't have it mixed in my... I think two centre-arts stay in the
• 1:21:51
  centre, it's always that. Right now, Gays won. Gays just a must-gay in probably Conzer,
• 1:21:58
  because they don't make stones, it's done enough to be sort of fit enough to be around there.
• 1:22:02
  But if you look at Gays, you're looking Gays and Conzer. Do you think Conzer has a different race
• 1:22:09
  in the middle as an actual footballer? No. Was a defender? Conzer's played all season long,
• 1:22:14
  he's at the peak of his powers, he's quick, he's dynamic. I know, I get that, but it's the
• 1:22:20
  best way of us. Stone's he has, but he's not really been fit, nobody's been played, he's not sharp,
• 1:22:27
  and he's not, he's not sharp, he's just on the cup. Did he, did something you got to go on in the
• 1:22:32
  cup finally? He's not played any real. Look at, I'll take him, and I'm good, and I love them.
• 1:22:39
  I'd take Harry McGuire over Conzer, and I'm Harry McGuire starting.
• 1:22:42
  A big statement. I don't think McGuire makes a squad. Don't you? No, I think that's a surprise,
• 1:22:47
  Amish. You don't think Harry McGuire makes a squad off of the season? There's all the people
• 1:22:50
  who think they say it. No, I say, because... No, I say that because Thomas Tuchuk came out
• 1:22:55
  after he played in one of the last friendlies and said, they said, like, what do you think about
• 1:22:59
  McGuire? And he said, well, I've learnt nothing new, I know exactly what he does,
• 1:23:02
  I know exactly what he's capable of. You've got back. And he's down. And he's got that
• 1:23:06
  cheeseless pass. You're made to Thomas Tuchuk. I'm with regards to Stoffice. He's down the
• 1:23:12
  peck in order. There are some centre-offs ahead of him. So, unless his injuries, I don't think he
• 1:23:16
  makes it. Wow. But Tuchuk and I have goalkeeper, I probably have Conzer and Conzer in the
• 1:23:20
  half, Declan Rice and Harry Kane. I forgot about Bechland Rice. He's a monster off. Right through
• 1:23:25
  the middle. Other than that. I mean, and even if there was a game... If we had a game...
• 1:23:32
  And I might leave Declan out for that just to say, I don't need you playing because it's
• 1:23:38
  going to be... It's going to be... Put Jimmy, put Jimmy in and say, the demands are physically
• 1:23:43
  going to be a hot, it's going to be a really tough thing. I hate a plane in the heat.
• 1:23:49
  I'd rather it was mad as 10 than 20 degrees because my body will manage that better.
• 1:23:55
  Do you just not run as much as you just look to get a giver, get a giver? Where did you,
• 1:23:59
  you're not... You don't fancy taking photos out of that heat. Yeah, you just suddenly get in.
• 1:24:03
  You know what it's like if you're in an holiday and you go over the walk and you're like,
• 1:24:07
  you feel like one of your kids goes, Dad, come run over and play this, you're like,
• 1:24:13
  that's too hot. You might make a person on the beach with your kid and then you're like,
• 1:24:16
  well, I can't run here. You just feel physically exhausted more than you usually would.
• 1:24:22
  So, it's not easy to see it have to play the game better and I just think we use our squad
• 1:24:26
  and we've got great players. So, yeah, I like Morgan Rodgers in there, you're like,
• 1:24:30
  Kai Sakki, you're like, but I'm happy to start. Are you starting Morgan Rodgers overfold
• 1:24:35
  no call? I would. I think in the minute Morgan Rodgers has been... I might take, as I said,
• 1:24:42
  I might take Morgan. He's scored 14 goals. He's been brilliant as well, but I'm not picking
• 1:24:45
  him overfold, not or call. I just don't think they can do the same thing as them two boys can.
• 1:24:50
  Okay, let's contain a game on its head in one move. When was the last time I either of them
• 1:24:55
  did that? I know, but I'm just saying they can. If it's long as they're fit,
• 1:24:58
  which he can only pick their place. So, we tried that in the last two tournaments,
• 1:25:02
  and we never really tried it on the same team. I just feel you've got to take them two boys,
• 1:25:08
  turn a game on its head and as good as the seasons, Gibbs White has had as Morgan Rodgers out,
• 1:25:13
  I just don't think they're as good as their mother to call Palmer when he's on it, eat on it.
• 1:25:20
  Who's your backup striker then? You've taken Erie Kane.
• 1:25:23
  I don't know how I call it, though. You think Erie Kane, yeah?
• 1:25:26
  I take them. All he walkins. All he walkins is being good this season.
• 1:25:30
  Well, at times, I should say. He has not a great season.
• 1:25:33
  He's been good at the back end. Yeah, he's come good when he needs it too,
• 1:25:36
  basically, but I think that I'm going to call it, being the standout guys in seconds here.
• 1:25:41
  In seconds here is everyone's seconds here from Erie Kane.
• 1:25:45
  There is somewhere else. Is Erie Kane the most important player in the team?
• 1:25:48
  I think he is. Yeah.
• 1:25:50
  If Erie Kane is not fired, we don't stand the chance.
• 1:25:53
  Yeah, this season he's been phenomenal.
• 1:25:56
  It's good to think for this. I think the importance is
• 1:26:01
  getting not just him firing. We have to have the balance right around him
• 1:26:06
  because he likes to drop into this. He's basically like a hybrid old-school set of four
• 1:26:10
  down a false line. Yeah, he needs to drop into. He needs, we need the balance.
• 1:26:15
  In previous tournament, we've gone with Erie Kane and then we've gone with
• 1:26:18
  Vodum, one side, and Sakka did a side-up. All want to come short and Bellingham,
• 1:26:21
  he wants to play in the hole. So we've had everybody on the pitch,
• 1:26:24
  you've all wanted to come short and no one stretching the pitch.
• 1:26:27
  I think that it's best if someone runs beyond that gives him the chance to come short
• 1:26:31
  and then he plays the past himself. We've just got to get balance.
• 1:26:34
  I'm looking forward to the tournament. I think Bakaio Sakka's pace component, Kane,
• 1:26:39
  gives you another threat. I think gives you another dynamic on the pitch
• 1:26:43
  because I don't think any of them are as quick as Bakaio Sakka and I don't think there's
• 1:26:48
  many that are as direct as clever as Foden and Cole are. It's a different dynamic with Bakaio Sakka.
• 1:26:56
  It's like what Stalin used to give us basically. He's direct. He's yet he wants to beat
• 1:27:01
  it in a 1v1, whereas the other two are clever. Foden and Cole are clever and they can do
• 1:27:08
  that certain things. Yeah, I just don't think there's room for bugs for them. That's all.
• 1:27:11
  And we'll find out very soon.