Latest / Advisory Secrets with Deb Halliday / From Advisor to Advisory Leader
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- 0:03Welcome to Advisory Secrets with Deb Halladay, the bite sized podcast for accountants and bookkeepers developing their advisory skills.
- 0:12In this series, we're going beyond the individual advisor and exploring how to build advisory capability across your team.
- 0:21Because a scalable advisory service shouldn't depend on one person, let's get started.
- 0:30In the last episode, we talked about using real client situations to develop advisory capability across your team.
- 0:39And as your team becomes more capable, something else needs to change your role.
- 0:44For many practice owners, advisory begins with them.
- 0:48They're the person who knows the clients.
- 0:51They lead the meetings, they ask the questions, they interpret what's happening, and they guide the decisions.
- 0:58In the early stages, that makes complete sense.
- 1:01But if advisory is going to grow beyond you, at some point, your role needs to evolve.
- 1:06You need to move from being the advisor to becoming the advisory leader.
- 1:12And those are not quite the same thing.
- 1:13Being a great advisor is about your own capability, your ability to listen, to ask good questions, to understand the business behind the numbers, to communicate clearly, to challenge thinking, and to help clients make better decisions.
- 1:28Being an advisory leader is about developing those capabilities in other people.
- 1:33And that requires a different measure of success.
- 1:37Instead of asking, how many clients am I advising?
- 1:40You start asking, how many people am I developing who can advise clients?
- 1:44Well, that's a very different question.
- 1:47Because your value is no longer measured purely by the conversations you personally lead, it's also measured by the conversations that can happen without you.
- 1:58And that can be a difficult transition, particularly if advisory is the part of the job you enjoy most.
- 2:04You've probably worked hard to become the trusted person your clients come to.
- 2:09There's satisfaction in that.
- 2:11And there's absolutely nothing wrong with continuing to advise clients.
- 2:15Building an advisory team doesn't mean the owner has to stop doing advisory.
- 2:20The difference is that you have a choice.
- 2:23You can stay involved in the clients and conversations where your experience adds the most value.
- 2:29But you don't need to be involved in every conversation simply because nobody else can do it.
- 2:35And that's where leadership creates capacity.
- 2:38Your time starts shifting.
- 2:40Some of the time you previously spent answering questions may now be spent coaching your team.
- 2:46Instead of solving a client situation yourself, you might ask a team member how they would approach it.
- 2:53Instead of automatically leading the next meeting, you might help somebody else prepare to lead it.
- 3:00Instead of reviewing only whether the work is technically correct, you start reviewing the thinking behind it.
- 3:06What did they notice?
- 3:07What questions did they ask?
- 3:09What did the client say?
- 3:11What options did they explore?
- 3:13What would they do differently?
- 3:15Next time you're developing judgment and that is one of the most valuable things an advisory leader can do.
- 3:21There's another part of leadership that matters here.
- 3:24Creating opportunities.
- 3:26We can train people forever, but eventually they need somewhere to apply what they've learned.
- 3:32They need client exposure.
- 3:33They need responsibility.
- 3:35They need to experience what happens when a conversation doesn't go exactly as planned.
- 3:41And they need to know that you're there to support them while they they develop.
- 3:46Sometimes that means allowing somebody to to do something differently from you.
- 3:50Sometimes it means resisting the urge to step in.
- 3:54And sometimes it means accepting that a conversation doesn't have to be perfect to be valuable.
- 4:00And if every team member has to reach your level of experience before they're allowed to advise a client, you'll never build an advisory team because they can't gain the experience without the opportunity.
- 4:11Leadership is about creating that bridge, giving people enough support to feel safe and enough responsibility to grow.
- 4:19It also means recognizing that not everybody needs to develop in exactly the same direction.
- 4:26You may have someone who becomes brilliant at financial strategy.
- 4:30Someone else may excel at client conversations.
- 4:32Another person may have fantastic commercial awareness.
- 4:36Someone may be particularly strong at turning complex numbers into something clients immediately understand.
- 4:44Your job as the leader isn't necessarily to make everybody equally good at everything.
- 4:50It's to understand the capability across your team and bring those strengths together.
- 4:57That's when you stop thinking about individual advisors and start thinking about advisory capability across the firm.
- 5:06And there's an important mindset shift for the owner here, too.
- 5:10You have to become comfortable with not being needed for everything.
- 5:14That can sound strange, like, we've spent years building businesses where being needed can feel like proof that we're valuable.
- 5:21Clients need us, the team needs us.
- 5:24Important decisions come through us.
- 5:27But being needed for everything isn't necessarily a sign of a strong business.
- 5:32Sometimes it's a sign of dependency.
- 5:35And leadership is about building capability that exists even when you're not in the room.
- 5:41Your experience doesn't become less important.
- 5:43It becomes more valuable because you're using it to develop other people.
- 5:49One experienced advisor can only have so many client conversations.
- 5:53But an advisory leader can influence hundreds of conversations through the people they've developed.
- 5:59That's scale not simply adding more clients, but expanding the capability of the people who can support them.
- 6:07So here's the question I'd like you to think about after this episode.
- 6:10Are you measuring your success by how much advisory depends on you or by how much advisory capability you're creating around you?
- 6:20Because eventually, the goal isn't to be the most important advisor in your firm.
- 6:24It's to build a firm full of people capable of creating value for clients.
- 6:31And when that happens, your role changes.
- 6:34You're still an advisor, but you're also something more.
- 6:37You're an advisory leader.
- 6:39And in the next episode, we're going to tackle one of the biggest fears that can stop owners from making this transition.
- 6:46The thought that my clients only want me.
- 6:50Because if you've spent years building those trusted relationships, handing some of that responsibility to your team can feel risky.
- 7:00But client trust doesn't have to belong to one person.
- 7:04It can be deliberately expanded across the team.
- 7:09Thanks for listening to Advisory Secrets with Deb Halliday.
- 7:12If you're ready to develop advisory capability across your team, visit apxtraining.co.uk to explore our evergreen elearning and live implementation cohorts starting in September, February and May.
- 7:29You can also join our free Advisory Teams community on facebook@facebook.com groups advisoryteams.
- 7:39And if you'd like more podcast content, listen to Advisory Conversations with Tim Seymour and Deb Halliday, available on all major podcast platforms.
- 7:48I'll see you next time for another advisory secret.