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- 0:15Have to believe we imagine. Nothing can stand on in our way.
- 0:23Have to believe we imagine. Don't let your aim in the string
- 0:33and devoid survive destiny.
- 1:02Hello ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keene and you are
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- 1:19above the comments with the link.
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- 1:26hearted people involved, mostly friends, to be in the show.
- 1:31We're not looking for any trouble, any drama, any kind of
- 1:35aggravation whatsoever. So I would definitely appreciate
- 1:39it if you're a stranger or you've never been on the show
- 1:42before, to try to have some form of respect or decency for your
- 1:46fellow human being if possible. It's kind of hard to get that
- 1:50out of any non believers or atheists these days.
- 1:56So today I'm going to talk about the dumb shit that atheists say
- 2:01that is absolutely illogical and absolute nonsense.
- 2:06And I'm saying this in a friendly manner.
- 2:10It may sound like I'm coming off rougher, I'm attacking you, but
- 2:14I'm not. I'm going to tell you something
- 2:17that you need to fix and you need to change about yourself.
- 2:21That way you don't come off seeming absolutely stupid or
- 2:25suffering from some form of retardation.
- 2:31I've heard this 100,000 times from atheist.
- 2:35If I had to throw a number, I guess how many times I've heard
- 2:38this I could say 100,000 times. Perhaps an infinite amount of
- 2:42time. One of the things that atheism
- 2:46will atheist will say is this. When you're talking about some
- 2:50of the discrepancies or issues with atheism, they will usually
- 2:56respond right off the bat with atheism only means and usually
- 3:01it's followed by lack of belief in deities.
- 3:05They will also say atheism is not a world view.
- 3:09Well the problem with this is is that most people know that I'm
- 3:13not pulling your chain or pulling your leg when I say
- 3:16this. But I used to be a former
- 3:18atheist, and I also was a former religious person.
- 3:23Whenever I was a young person who was going to church, who was
- 3:27a part of Christianity. And then I lost my faith, became
- 3:30skeptical, and I spent most of my life like that before coming
- 3:34back to some form of faith in God.
- 3:38I realized whenever I walked away from the faith and entitled
- 3:44myself an atheist, that this was a big decision.
- 3:48This was huge. This didn't just affect my
- 3:51belief in God, but it also affected my perception on
- 3:55reality. And let me explain why for those
- 3:58out there that can't comprehend us or seem too shallow or stupid
- 4:04to really bother to think this through.
- 4:07Originally, as a religious person, I had this worldview
- 4:12that God created everything, that everything around us, from
- 4:16children to life itself, to meaning and purpose, to the love
- 4:22of a woman to beauty that we see.
- 4:25Everything originated from God. Reality itself came from God.
- 4:34OK, so realizing that and saying to myself at some point in time
- 4:41that I think that atheism is more logical, the position that
- 4:45doesn't entertain the concept of God doesn't necessarily get me
- 4:50off the hook. And it definitely isn't a it's
- 4:54not a negative claim. You've heard atheists say that.
- 4:59It's just, you know, we're, we're not making a positive
- 5:02assertion about anything. However, you are.
- 5:05Because just as I realized when I became an atheist, I was now
- 5:09making the claim that God is not the originator of the universe,
- 5:14that all things that you see, all things that I perceive as
- 5:18reality had to originate from a natural source.
- 5:25I mean, there's some atheists, there's only a few of them out
- 5:29there, a handful where they'll say we could have been spawned
- 5:33by aliens or something. But that's not really much
- 5:36different than the idea of an entity that exists outside the
- 5:40space and time or within space and time that created all
- 5:43things, right? You're still claiming that
- 5:45something besides the physical nature that we know of or that
- 5:51we're aware of. And it's also a faith claim to
- 5:53claim that you believe that aliens did things.
- 5:56But even if you throw out the aliens and you go with the
- 5:59common belief of atheists that all things came into existence,
- 6:05VI chemistry, chemicals, or with the universe somehow just simply
- 6:11had it instilled in itself to manufacture life and everything
- 6:17you see around you, that's a positive assertion.
- 6:20That's a positive claim. And it's also an act of faith
- 6:23because you don't see outside of our solar system, you don't see
- 6:31a great deal of what would be considered reality.
- 6:34You don't see the entire picture of the universe, you are a
- 6:39little Ant that is simply a part of one piece of the pie that
- 6:44cannot see all around it. To suggest that there is no
- 6:48originator or God and that simply nature did so is a
- 6:53positive assertion. And it's also worldview.
- 6:57When someone asks you what is your worldview, what they're
- 7:01asking you simply is. The most simplest way to put
- 7:05this to you without you having to run off to Google or to a
- 7:07dictionary, is what is your view of the world?
- 7:11What is your view of reality? Now, if you're saying that you
- 7:14don't have a view of the world or a view of reality, that's
- 7:17when you sound absolutely retarded.
- 7:20It's obvious that you have thoughts, right?
- 7:24I would hope so. You claim to be rational and
- 7:27logical, So what makes you logical and rational?
- 7:30What is it a part of this world and reality in the universe that
- 7:34makes you rational? Logical.
- 7:37Basically what I'm asking you is why should anybody even fucking
- 7:40listen to you or pay attention to the shit you say?
- 7:43Why is it that anything that you have has any credibility and
- 7:47validity? You're going to think this, that
- 7:50everything that you say is important and significant
- 7:52because the world, the universe, you're still a part of it, even
- 7:58though you're not a significant, important part of it.
- 8:01Do you get what I'm saying? But if you turn around and you
- 8:06tell people, well, we're not going to argue my position.
- 8:10We're only going to argue yours because you're making the
- 8:13positive claim that there's a God.
- 8:15That shows not only are you retarded, but it also shows that
- 8:19you're a fucking coward. It shows that you have not
- 8:23thought out your position or your view or what it is that
- 8:27you're thinking about the universe.
- 8:29It doesn't matter if you come along and say, yeah, it might be
- 8:34possible there's a God, but I don't see any evidence to
- 8:38entertainment that doesn't matter.
- 8:40What do you actually think when you think about it, ladies and
- 8:45gentlemen? The question of is there a God
- 8:48or did nature create us? As a pretty black and white
- 8:51question, It's a it's actually much more simpler than what some
- 8:55people make it out to be. Either there is or there isn't.
- 9:00Either something is real or it's not.
- 9:03There's no maybe it's fucking possible, I suppose.
- 9:08Well, then the question to the atheist is going to be why do
- 9:12you think it's possible for? Why do you think that it might
- 9:16be the case? And this go and the question
- 9:20unfortunately is double edged sword, right?
- 9:23Why do you believe that nature did things?
- 9:26What makes you think in your mind that the universe has the
- 9:30capability to be able to create life?
- 9:34Have you ever seen it happen on another world before?
- 9:37Have you actually seen life come from non life?
- 9:40Have you? Have you ever experienced
- 9:42spontaneous generation? And it's not just, it doesn't
- 9:47just change your physical reality, it also changes your
- 9:51spirituality as well as your consciousness.
- 9:54Whenever you claim or entitle yourself an atheist.
- 9:59Because now you're saying that your consciousness is somehow
- 10:02developed through nature and evolution, right?
- 10:07You're basically, even if you don't, even if somehow you're
- 10:10one of these atheists who are doubtful of evolution, but you
- 10:14believe that somehow nature developed you obviously you
- 10:18believe in some form of evolution.
- 10:20If you're going to make a claim like that, you have to believe
- 10:23that there was some kind of process that happened that came
- 10:26to this. The next question would
- 10:28obviously be, is it a guided process?
- 10:32Did this process have purpose? Were you meant to be the person
- 10:37that you are today or are you a fucking accident?
- 10:41Are you random? Did you just randomly happen?
- 10:45Did the universe roll the fucking dice and you were the
- 10:48result of it? You see, it's not so simple just
- 10:52to say I lack of belief in deities, period.
- 10:56No, when you say that God is not the progenitor of fucking
- 10:59reality, then you're stating that something else must have
- 11:03been because reality objectively exists.
- 11:08There has to be a reason for everything around you to exist.
- 11:14When you are sitting in your room, you know the fucking walls
- 11:18were created by somebody. You know the floor beneath your
- 11:20feet was created. You know whenever you are
- 11:23walking through public that everything that you see around
- 11:26you was created or designed by someone.
- 11:29And because it was created and designed, it was specifically
- 11:32created and designed for a fucking purpose.
- 11:35So now the question is, what is the purpose and meaning of you?
- 11:39Why do you exist? Were you meant to be?
- 11:42Or are you just randomly shrewd chemicals, nothing more than
- 11:46snot on a rock that got hit by lightning and then you became
- 11:49alive? You don't get to run from the
- 11:54debate. The word atheist doesn't mean,
- 11:57oh, I don't have to argue my position anymore.
- 12:01A lot of you out there, you've done that.
- 12:03I'll talk to you on my live show or have conversations with you
- 12:08and various different social media things and you all do the
- 12:11same shit. You're like, I don't have a
- 12:14world view. And atheism doesn't mean all
- 12:17this other stuff. It just simply means lack of
- 12:19leaf and deities. Well, let's take something
- 12:22really simple. Let's take something really
- 12:26fucking simple, like a cupcake. If I put a cupcake on the table
- 12:33and then I point at it and I say this cupcake is fantastic.
- 12:39The universe was in a good mood whenever this cupcake came into
- 12:43existence. It's the best fucking cupcake
- 12:45there ever was. In fact, this the taste of the
- 12:48cupcake proves without a doubt that it's heavenly and that it
- 12:54came from the heavens like ambrosia, food of the gods.
- 13:00But then you are obviously going to view the cupcake differently
- 13:04from your world view. You're going to say Nah, it's
- 13:06just another fucked cupcake. It it don't have any intrinsic
- 13:11value or meaning or purpose. It's just another cupcake that
- 13:14just so happens to taste fucking good.
- 13:17See, even on the smallest, littlest levels of thinking, you
- 13:22have to put all this different shit ahead of your conclusion on
- 13:26the fucking cupcake. And this goes with anything.
- 13:30This goes with love. When a Christian finds love, or
- 13:34a Muslim or a Jew or someone of some faith, they're going to
- 13:38believe that the feelings that they have for another person
- 13:42transcends the physical, that love is what keeps the universe
- 13:48lit all right. They're going to believe that
- 13:51love comes directly from God and that it's beautiful and it's
- 13:57fantastic and it should be shared and experienced.
- 14:01However, you will see love is nothing more than a process that
- 14:06or consequence or result that happened through development
- 14:10over fucking ages of time on the planet.
- 14:14Your view of love is totally different.
- 14:17You are not going to look at your wife and girlfriend and
- 14:20say, God really blessed me. God did something really great.
- 14:25Instead, you're going to have to say nature really put her
- 14:28biology together really good for me.
- 14:31You know, we just simply, you know, nature dictated that she
- 14:35was compatible and here I am no guided process.
- 14:39It just happened that way. You see, the dice were was
- 14:45rolled and somehow there was some luck there.
- 14:50But even then, it sounds magical, doesn't it?
- 14:56Shit just happens. Things just happened.
- 15:00Trillions of things just happened and there's no
- 15:04guidance, there's no focus, there's no purpose or meaning.
- 15:07The cupcake just is what it is. But is it?
- 15:12A lot of things had to go into it when the cupcake was being
- 15:15designed and when it was being created.
- 15:17It was being created with love. It was being created with the
- 15:21purpose of being enjoyed. It was created with the purpose
- 15:26of being consumed and being a part of an experience.
- 15:30But you're not going to see it that way.
- 15:32You're going to see it as no purpose, no meaning.
- 15:35It's just a fucking cupcake. And it's not just love or the
- 15:39cupcake, but it's something even very powerful influences that
- 15:44humanity has you've taken away. Let me give you an example.
- 15:49A baby being born. Most people in the world who are
- 15:54not psychotic or irresponsible parents who are pieces of shit
- 15:58who fucked for 5 minutes and ended up creating a spawn.
- 16:02They will see the baby as a blessing from God and a miracle.
- 16:09They'll say seeing life being brought into the world is a
- 16:13fucking miracle. Ladies and gentlemen, every
- 16:16child is a miracle. The atheist will say no, it's
- 16:22cockroaches have babies. You know, puppies have babies,
- 16:27but some of them die during birth.
- 16:29You know it. It just says what it is.
- 16:31You know, the strong, the weak, the laws of the jungle.
- 16:35This just happens because genetics say so, but genetics
- 16:41aren't actually alive, even though genetics somehow make us
- 16:46live. You see the conundrum there?
- 16:48I I've always found that weird. What's going on in your body in
- 16:52the universe is not alive, but you're alive, but the shit
- 16:55that's inside of you that makes you alive is not alive.
- 16:59It's so weird. It's the the thought process
- 17:02just sounds absolutely retarded. You see, I think the last
- 17:11person, the last atheist I've heard actually say some shit
- 17:16like this was a woman named Robin.
- 17:19He's been an atheist for a little while.
- 17:20She claims that she was spiritual in the past, dabbled
- 17:25in Christianity, dabbled in witchcraft, dabbled in magical
- 17:29spells and shit. And then at some point in time
- 17:32she just said now that's this is the case.
- 17:36And when I asked her what her worldview was, when I asked her
- 17:39how she believed things actually came to be, our answer was,
- 17:43well, atheism has nothing to do with all that.
- 17:45It just simply is my proposition of lacking a belief in deities.
- 17:51And when I hear that even though I like her and she's a, she's a
- 17:56person I enjoy hanging out with, but she's a person that I enjoy
- 17:59talking to, which for whatever reason, since the first time and
- 18:05last time I talked to her, she seems extremely afraid to have a
- 18:08conversation anymore. And that's sad too, because I've
- 18:12noticed a lot of you out there. When you have a talk with me and
- 18:16I turn on the lights for you and try to explain to you what the
- 18:21issue is here or what's right, you get terrified.
- 18:24It's like you don't want to hear any alternative or other
- 18:27information. It's like you do not want to
- 18:30hear why it is that you should discuss your views or position.
- 18:35And that brings me back to thinking.
- 18:37Why the fuck do you think you're rational, logical?
- 18:40Why in your mind or your brain, do you somehow think that you're
- 18:44smarter than everybody else who's spiritual and religious?
- 18:49Do you notice that, ladies and gentlemen?
- 18:51Do you notice when you're talking to atheists?
- 18:53They you can tell by the smugness on their face and the
- 18:57way they respond to shit that they actually think they're
- 19:00fucking smarter than everybody that they're talking to.
- 19:04They already have this inclination in their mind that
- 19:07if you believe in something they don't, this somehow makes you
- 19:11fucking stupid, right? That's where it comes from.
- 19:18But why they can't even explain to you this?
- 19:23If I believe if I look at somebody and I think that this
- 19:27person, I believe the person's beautiful, but the atheist looks
- 19:31at the person and does not see beauty in the person, how the
- 19:35fuck does that make either one of us stupid or smart?
- 19:39How does it make it to where I'm somehow made an unintelligent
- 19:42claim? Based upon what?
- 19:48That's one of the things and even the atheists out there who
- 19:52have issues, who admittedly have autism or some kind of issue
- 19:57with their brain, they and I don't know if the reason why
- 20:01they think like they do or act the way they do is because
- 20:04they're being affected by the issues that they have medically
- 20:08or is it because they've had some kind of bad negative thing
- 20:11happen. That's another thing, too,
- 20:14atheists will say. I don't.
- 20:17Lack of belief in God because some trouble in my life or
- 20:21something bad. But then they'll turn around and
- 20:25make a video where they give you their atheist testimony where
- 20:28they'll say I had some shit happen to me in my past.
- 20:32Somebody sexually abused me, or somebody cheated on me, or I
- 20:36seen somebody die, or I seen I was working in a nursing home
- 20:40and I seen some person. Now that was an absolute
- 20:44miserable condition. And I came to the conclusion
- 20:46that if there is a God, then that shit shouldn't have
- 20:49happened. Or I was watching the news, I
- 20:53seen some starving kids. Therefore God can't be real.
- 20:57Because if God is real, then there shouldn't be pain.
- 21:01Where the fuck does that idea come from?
- 21:05Just because there's pain in the world doesn't mean you deny the
- 21:08existence of your parents. Just because there's somebody or
- 21:12something you don't like in the world, that doesn't make it to
- 21:14where that person or that thing doesn't exist.
- 21:18This is not logical thinking. This is not rational.
- 21:23Whenever I became an atheist a long time ago, I realized what I
- 21:28was sacrificing. I realized that I was giving up
- 21:32a lot of things. I was putting myself in a
- 21:35position where I would have to explain where my morality comes
- 21:40from. If God didn't give me morality,
- 21:42then what the fuck did? If God didn't put the condition
- 21:47in me to love or process my feelings, then what did I
- 21:54realized even then? Not all of it.
- 21:58It took a little time for me to grow up and mature and become
- 22:01responsible and realize that there was even more than I was
- 22:05giving away of myself than I could have even possibly
- 22:08imagined. But I didn't know right out the
- 22:10fucking bat that if I say God didn't do it, then do I even
- 22:16have a fucking idea of what did? If you're going to deny
- 22:21something, then you better have good reason for it.
- 22:24It's not good enough just to deny something because you don't
- 22:28like the way shit is or the way life is, or because you didn't
- 22:32have an experience that you expected to have.
- 22:38You may not experience love the same way another person does.
- 22:41You may think something is love, but it's actually not.
- 22:45There's plenty of ways for an atheist just as much as a
- 22:49religious person to delude themselves into thinking ideas
- 22:53that at the moment they think are right, but then they realize
- 22:56later it's absolute bullshit. So yes, you do have a world view
- 23:02and atheism doesn't just mean lack of belief in deities.
- 23:06When you say something isn't real or something exists.
- 23:09That doesn't get you away from the problem of why the fuck is
- 23:13this thing here Then if I can give one more analogy and maybe
- 23:21this will make sense to some of you out there.
- 23:23If it doesn't make sense to you or you claim that what I'm
- 23:26telling you doesn't make sense, then you're just an asshole
- 23:29who's being dishonest because I put this so simple to you that
- 23:34even a child or a fucking undeveloped monkey could
- 23:37understand at this point. If there is a murder that has
- 23:41happened and you are a detective and there's another detective,
- 23:46one detective says they believe that this person was murdered
- 23:49because of what's happening in the environment.
- 23:52You both go into a room, you see a dead body on the floor.
- 23:56You see that there's some shit that happened, there's things
- 23:59broken. A process has happened.
- 24:02Someone came in and caused this issue for whatever purpose or
- 24:06whatever their motive, the agenda.
- 24:09You can see that a lot of things, step by step, a process
- 24:13happened in order for this person to end up a corpse on the
- 24:17ground. That's kind of like how
- 24:19religious people experience God. They see what's happening, they
- 24:24hear the songs in the wind, they see the detail of what is
- 24:29happening around them, and they realize that the corpse sitting
- 24:33end up on the floor by itself. But you're going to sit there
- 24:37claiming to be a fucking detective and just simply say,
- 24:41well, I didn't see who did it, so therefore the alternative is
- 24:46nothing did it. That's fucking dumb.
- 24:50Maybe your claim it was just an accident, it was random, but the
- 24:53problem is, is the corpse has holes in it, the kind that look
- 24:57like bullet holes. It's fucking absolutely clear
- 25:02something happened, and by you saying otherwise and then the
- 25:09claiming that everyone around you stupid for thinking
- 25:12otherwise, is this bullshit. It's dumb, it's ignorant, and
- 25:17it's dishonest. And if the detective were to
- 25:19tell his boss, well, I didn't find anything in all this
- 25:23because I didn't see the murderer actually do anything.
- 25:27I didn't see the process, so therefore the murder never
- 25:32actually happened. You'd be fucking fired.
- 25:36You would get an F and you'd be told to go home and put your
- 25:39head in the toilet because there ain't nothing coming out of your
- 25:42fucking brain, right? And that, ladies and gentlemen,
- 25:52it's just the way it is. You do have a view of the world,
- 25:56you have a view of how love works.
- 25:58You have a view of how reality works.
- 26:00If you say that you don't observe or have any view or
- 26:04thoughts about reality, then you're fucking retarded.
- 26:08But it's just that simple. There's something not
- 26:13functioning properly in your brain if you literally, if you
- 26:16believe that shit that you're saying to all the religious
- 26:19people you talk to, I don't have no world view.
- 26:22And the word just simply means this.
- 26:25And that doesn't mean anything else.
- 26:27With language, it's always been that every word has could have
- 26:32many meanings to it or many purposes for you just to simply
- 26:37say I don't have to argue, I don't have to fight, I don't
- 26:41have to stand up for what I believe or what I think is
- 26:44actually true. Then get the fuck out of the
- 26:48ring. Stay out of the kitchen if it's
- 26:50too hot for you. Don't go to battle with people
- 26:53if that's all you got. Think about what it is that your
- 26:58position is and what it is that you're giving up or what you're
- 27:02benefiting from it. If you ask a Christian what do
- 27:06you benefit from your belief, they could go on all fucking day
- 27:10telling you about it. Why do you think this?
- 27:13Or why do you think this good thing happens?
- 27:15God did it. It may sound simple and might
- 27:19sound petty to you, but to a religious person, God did it is
- 27:25a big thing. And what if you think about it,
- 27:28if there was no God and there was only a different answer for
- 27:33things, Let's say the cosmos did it.
- 27:36What else you going to say about it?
- 27:38The cosmos did it, nature did it.
- 27:41Does that make you sound stupid by saying the cosmos did it,
- 27:44nature did it, the universe produced it?
- 27:48You're pretty much you're given the same syllables, you're given
- 27:51the same answer. It's just not God.
- 27:55You ever hear atheists complain about that before?
- 27:58I hate it. All they say is God did it.
- 28:00God done did it. Well, that's pretty much what
- 28:03you're saying. You're saying evolution did it,
- 28:06Cosmos did it, universe did it. OK, now let's get into the topic
- 28:11of how you fucking know this. How do you know that there's no
- 28:15other alternatives or options? And let's keep in mind, ladies
- 28:20and gentlemen, that not one religious person, as far as I
- 28:23know in my lifetime, as well as atheist, neither one of us has
- 28:28been outside our solar system. None of us have even stepped
- 28:33foot on another planet. So for everybody to sit around
- 28:37and fucking yap like a bunch of hens in a hen house, like they
- 28:40know some shit. Like they're Neil deGrasse Tyson
- 28:44just babbling on incoherently about shit that he's never
- 28:47observed or seen. I mean, really, it really comes
- 28:52down to everybody sounding a little fucking stupid when it
- 28:56comes down to it. That's the reason why we should
- 28:59all sit together and actually discuss things and figure it out
- 29:03together and not look at each other like one group is the
- 29:08enemy and the other group is the rational, logical type.
- 29:14If we're going to find the answers, ladies and gentlemen,
- 29:17we're either going to find it together or we're going to go
- 29:20over the waterfall together because we're all in the same
- 29:22fucking boat and we're all heading towards the Cliff.
- 29:26So we're either going to paddle together and make this shit
- 29:29right and find our truth and our answers.
- 29:32Are we going to go over to waterfall together and we're
- 29:34going to fucking die badly. Something to think about.