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Chuck & Buck 2-25 Hour 4: We have some legit sit-i-ations in the NFL! Al Kinisky stops by and we close with one last thing! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Ain't gonna paddle it. Don't kick it real hard. No,
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  Speaker 1: I believe he's gonna paddle it. I don't believe that's
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  Speaker 1: a proper description.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's how I characterize it.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it's more of a kicking situation.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, nine o'clock hour, Chuck and Ashley with you.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, there are situations in the world, and then
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  Speaker 2: there are situations. And in the National Football League there
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: are a few teams out there with situation. I think
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  Speaker 2: the Seahawks have plenty of situations that they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be dealing with. I mean, JSN, that's a situation like
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  Speaker 2: we got to figure out are we going to pay
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  Speaker 2: him now or are we going to stretch it out
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  Speaker 2: and maybe give him in his extension and wait until
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  Speaker 2: next year. Well, I can tell you this right now,
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  Speaker 2: Greg bell I asked him of that about two hours ago,
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  Speaker 2: and he said that the way John Schneider views the
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  Speaker 2: JSN contract is that he's really a guy with one
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  Speaker 2: year left on his deal. Sam Donald's got two years
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: left on his deal. So he made Greg do the math. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald's got two years left. Next year, when he
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  Speaker 2: has one year left, we'll start working on his extension,
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  Speaker 2: JSN theoretically has two years left in a Seahawk uniform
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  Speaker 2: because you could pick up his fifth year because he
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  Speaker 2: was a first round draft pick option pay him like
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars for that fifth year, so you
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  Speaker 2: could save yourself time. But Greg informed us at seven
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  Speaker 2: oh five that's not the way that John views the
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  Speaker 2: JSN fifth year player option situation. He views it as
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  Speaker 2: that we've got one year left to work out a
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  Speaker 2: long term deal, and so now's the time to negotiate it.
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  Speaker 2: And the expectation is the JSN is going to become
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  Speaker 2: the highest paid wide receiver in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 2: and by a little bit of a margin, and I
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  Speaker 2: think deservedly so, and please just get it done. Why
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  Speaker 2: risk any ill feelings. Let's just all this situation before
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  Speaker 2: it becomes a situation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if he's already out there saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I would like to be the highest paid wide receiver,
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  Speaker 3: I think I've earned it. I think my play on
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  Speaker 3: the field and in the community has shown that I
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  Speaker 3: deserve it. So as you joined the man, as he
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  Speaker 3: pointed out earlier, that price only going to get higher
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  Speaker 3: next year with real wide receivers become the next highest
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  Speaker 3: paid wide receiver.
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  Speaker 2: So it's his turn, so do it. It's his turn.
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  Speaker 2: Meg him the highest paid, keep the great relationship. Even
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  Speaker 2: the clubhouse will love you for rewarding JSN. So I
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  Speaker 2: think this will be a situation that will be easily
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  Speaker 2: handled ken Walker. This could turn into a situation right now.
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  Speaker 2: The situation is that ken Walker is becoming free agent
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  Speaker 2: at a time where he really did create some momentum
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  Speaker 2: for his free agency, and so he's going to make
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  Speaker 2: things a little uncomfortable financially for the Seahawks to try
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  Speaker 2: to keep him. And if he ends up declining all
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  Speaker 2: offers because his agent wants him to test the market,
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  Speaker 2: I think we're gonna lose him. I think that's what's
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  Speaker 2: going to happen. So if we have a situation, it
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  Speaker 2: is ken Walker and whether or not at this stage
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  Speaker 2: in the process, John Schneider Mike McDonald can convince him
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  Speaker 2: to stay for less than what he would make on
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  Speaker 2: the open market, because I'm sure that once he hits
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  Speaker 2: the open market, some crazy bastards in the National Football
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  Speaker 2: League who are bad at what they do will overpay
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  Speaker 2: him to try to fix their organization. Like Overnight and
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  Speaker 2: that's usually not the way to go is to overpay players.
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  Speaker 2: John doesn't do that. That's why he's had a lot
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  Speaker 2: of success, and so he doesn't want to even be
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  Speaker 2: faced with that. So this could turn into a situation
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  Speaker 2: before it's all said.
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  Speaker 4: I really hope it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to see see it make the transition
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  Speaker 3: from situation to situation. I don't either, because at that
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  Speaker 3: point there's a lot more out of your control exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's that's pretty much what we're facing. Okay
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  Speaker 2: here this offseason. But there are a lot OFFL teams
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  Speaker 2: who suddenly, well they got a situation on their hands.
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  Speaker 4: Tell me all about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with the Philadelphia Eagles. And this isn't suddenly.
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  Speaker 2: This has been brewing for quite some time, but recently
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  Speaker 2: at the NFL combine, Nick Sirianni gets quoted and the
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  Speaker 2: headlines and everybody's running with the headlines. I can't guarantee
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  Speaker 2: that AJ Brown will be back next year. Now, you
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about something that makes players, executives, coaches angry,
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  Speaker 2: it's when we have so many different media sources and
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  Speaker 2: sure enough, one to ten of them will end up
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  Speaker 2: taking a quote out of context and running with it
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  Speaker 2: and splashing it on the headlines. Sports Illustrated did it.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people did it with it. Yes, he
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  Speaker 2: did say I can't guarantee that AJ Brown will be
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  Speaker 2: back next year, but it was in the context of
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  Speaker 2: him saying, I agree with Howie Roseman, you just don't
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  Speaker 2: run around, run across great talent line this all the time.
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  Speaker 2: We want him back, we think he wants to be back,
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  Speaker 2: But can I guarantee that he'll be back? I can't
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  Speaker 2: even guarantee that I will be back next year? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And then then people run with it as nouk surion
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  Speaker 2: he can't guarantee that he Well, of course he can't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you expect if he guaranteed he'd be back?
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  Speaker 3: Of him and be like, oh WELLO. Clearly the Eagles
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  Speaker 3: have signed A J. Brown, and nobody has told us
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  Speaker 3: that said.
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  Speaker 2: It's still a situation. I don't think Nick Sirian he
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  Speaker 2: should be taking it this week. I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: said anything wrong in that press conference, and the media
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  Speaker 2: took him out of context and they've created a mountain
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  Speaker 2: out of a molehill. But everybody knows they've got a
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  Speaker 2: situation there in Philadelphia. What we don't know is who's
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  Speaker 2: at the heart of it. Is it AJ Brown or
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: is it Jalen Hurts. I mean, we are at a
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  Speaker 2: lot of rumblings at the end of the year that
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is the problem in the locker room. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't seem that way on the surface. He seems very
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  Speaker 2: you know, buttoned up and great leader, and every time
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  Speaker 2: he's in front of a microphone he's he's soft spoken,
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  Speaker 2: but he doesn't say nothing. He seems to me like
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  Speaker 2: a leader. But sometimes perception is not reality, and it
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  Speaker 2: sounds to me like Philadelphia may have a clubhouse issue
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  Speaker 2: led by their quarterback. For goodness sake, that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of more players are siding with AJ Brown's frustration than
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  Speaker 2: what we realize. But we see the wide receiver pouting
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  Speaker 2: on the sidelines reading a book. Yeah, you uninterested, And
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  Speaker 2: it looks obvious to us that Aj Brown is a
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  Speaker 2: problem with the Philadelphia Eagles and may have been one
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons why they couldn't get the offense clicking
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  Speaker 2: this past season and why they failed so miserably and
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  Speaker 2: repeating as Super Bowl champions and they made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong. Maybe miserably is a
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  Speaker 2: strong word, but they was.
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  Speaker 4: A disappointment for them for sure.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't get close. Yeah, they didn't get close, and
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  Speaker 2: they exited in putrid fashion. I will I'll own that statement.
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  Speaker 2: But I just don't see how this is remedied. I
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  Speaker 2: think he had to go. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is the issue or not. Kind of sounds
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  Speaker 2: like that he might be, But that still doesn't justify
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  Speaker 2: reading a book on the sidelines and hosting press conferences
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  Speaker 2: at your locker where you're admitting to your frustrations, calling
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  Speaker 2: out the offensive coordinator, calling out the quarterback. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's going to go. I don't think there's any room
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  Speaker 2: for this in a championship organization. I'm so glad we
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  Speaker 2: didn't have this with the Seahawks this past year. And
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  Speaker 2: I think you could get good value of him still,
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  Speaker 2: because there will be a lot of organizations out there
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  Speaker 2: that are wide receiver needy that could use an AJ
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  Speaker 2: Brown at his age, are willing to pay that price,
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  Speaker 2: and they get a fresh start with him. They don't
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  Speaker 2: have any sort of locker room issue because he gets
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  Speaker 2: to start fresh with that organization. Cleveland and Buffalo are
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  Speaker 2: coming to mind, not just coming to mind. They're being
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  Speaker 2: reported a lot of having a keen interest in AJ Brown.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I just too.
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  Speaker 3: If you have two players who aren't getting along and
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  Speaker 3: one of them is going out and making it a
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  Speaker 3: public thing, you just can't. You can't keep that person right.
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  Speaker 3: You got to get rid of one of them. Then
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  Speaker 3: you get rid of AJ Brown. You find out is
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts really the problem? Maybe, and maybe he's the
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  Speaker 3: next to go, but you can't if that once that
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  Speaker 3: relationship is fractured and he's taking the private things from
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  Speaker 3: the locker room out to the public, you can't put
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  Speaker 3: that cat bat back in the bag.
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  Speaker 4: Is that right phrase?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that works.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, cat is out of the bag.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, back in there exactly once he let it out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cat getting out of the bag is a situation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get the cat back into the bag. That's
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  Speaker 2: a situation one. And that's what we're talking about here today.
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  Speaker 2: It's situations in the National Football League. So if this
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  Speaker 2: is the forty eight hour window of John Schneider's right,
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  Speaker 2: we don't really care about the Pajama party anymore. It's
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  Speaker 2: about trying to hammer out all of these things to
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  Speaker 2: kind of set the tone for the entire NFL off season.
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  Speaker 2: Then we need to address all the citiation that are
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  Speaker 2: going on out there.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody's got to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Forty nine ers have themselves a situation, and not with
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  Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk. That's been resolved. Yeah, he's gone and they're
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  Speaker 2: going to try to find a trade partner, which they won't,
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  Speaker 2: and they're gonna eat a lot of money, there's no
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  Speaker 2: getting around that. And he's going to play for another
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  Speaker 2: team next year and it wouldn't it surprise me if
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  Speaker 2: he played well. So that was something that was a situation.
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  Speaker 2: But now they've resolved it. John Lynch has already said
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  Speaker 2: he won't be back with us next year and that
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  Speaker 2: the Ayuk tentacles reach far. When you have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money invested in the guy, you get nothing from.
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  Speaker 2: Guess what happens. It ends up pinching another guy and
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  Speaker 2: somebody that actually does perform. So I introduced you to
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  Speaker 2: thirty seven year old future Hall of Fame left tackle
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  Speaker 2: Trent Williams, and it sounds to me, according to Mike
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  Speaker 2: Florio and Pro Football Talk, the forty nine ers have
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  Speaker 2: themselves a Trent Williams situation. Suddenly it's gone from yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be back next year, don't sweat it,
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  Speaker 2: to Trent Williams looking like he could be leaving. As
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  Speaker 2: a matter of fact, the forty nine ers wow, may
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  Speaker 2: actually cut him for goodness sake because of cap reasons.
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  Speaker 2: So Williams there's a chance that he could be traded.
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  Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers would owe Williams ten million dollars
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  Speaker 2: on April first. If they're willing to carry his CAP
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  Speaker 2: number through March, they could attempt to trade him. But
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  Speaker 2: the story is because he's driving such a hard bargain
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  Speaker 2: and because they don't have cap flexibility because of Brandon
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  Speaker 2: aiyuk tight signings in the past, that at thirty eight
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  Speaker 2: million dollars a year they might just release the thirty
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  Speaker 2: seven year old left tackle. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Wowow.
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  Speaker 2: I mean. I give John Lynch all the credit in
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  Speaker 2: the world for going for it. I'm not sure there's
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: been a general manager in the NFL on the modern
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  Speaker 2: day less needs in the conversation, but I don't think
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  Speaker 2: even he has gone as far as John Lynch. John Lynch,
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: when he saw an opportunity to win, He's like you know,
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: you know, salary cap be damned, it's not real math. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we'll figure out a way to just shove everybody in
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  Speaker 2: under the cap and be as great as we possibly
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  Speaker 2: can in this window. And they didn't win a championship
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  Speaker 2: doing it that way, and now they're going to start
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  Speaker 2: feeling the ramifications. And now we'll see if he's the
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  Speaker 2: type of general manager that can pull a less need
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  Speaker 2: and rebuild in record setting time. Because he drafts so well,
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: I think I got to give credit to Sneed for
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  Speaker 2: doing that, but it's not customary, and we have not
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  Speaker 2: seen if John Lynch is even capable of that as
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: a general manager. He's very capable of recognizing other great
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: players on other teams, getting them to his organization to
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: add to his already great team, but he didn't win
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  Speaker 2: a championship that way, and now all of that effort,
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: now it starts to create the damage. You know, you've
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: got older players that can't stay healthy making gigantic salaries,
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: and at some point, you know, the poop hits the fan,
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: and the poop is hitting the fan in San Francisco,
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  Speaker 2: and this could be just one of the dominoes that
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  Speaker 2: could fall. This could be the first of the dominoes
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  Speaker 2: that could fall in San Francisco if they decide we
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  Speaker 2: can't keep Trent Williams and we can't trade him at
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: thirty eight million dollars a year, we're going to cut
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: one of the best left tackles in the National Football
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  Speaker 2: League just to give us some cap flexibility. That is,
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  Speaker 2: when you know you're.
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  Speaker 4: Stretched, Yeah, you are in a situation.
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  Speaker 2: You are in a situation at that point, Yeah, y are.
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  Speaker 2: So that was a little bit of an unknown, but
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  Speaker 2: that's the scuttle butt right now that Williams is like
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: in a staredown. He not only is not going to
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: sacrifice any of his money now, he wants more money
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  Speaker 2: going forward, even at age thirty seven. And the forty
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  Speaker 2: nine ers are like, man, we might be an impass
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  Speaker 2: here and he's not going to be easy to trade
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  Speaker 2: and we would still have cap implications. Yeah if we
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: did trade him, well.
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  Speaker 3: And you think about it's not like they can't be like, well,
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: we don't need him, because all we heard about going
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: into the playoffs was that he was going to be back,
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  Speaker 3: and what a difference maker it was going to be
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: just to have Trent Williams back.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, he is a key person.
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  Speaker 2: He was, Yeah, he was saying.
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  Speaker 4: That is a key person. I would not want to
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  Speaker 4: be in that situation.
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  Speaker 2: The Las Vegas Raiders, then they got situations everywhere. They
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: lead the league in situations Vegas. Yeah, it's the Raiders.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's more well. Yeah, yeah, But the news
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: this week is that we got a little bit of
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: breaker progress. We let it be known that we really
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: want Max Crosby back next year, and we also let
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: it be known that we think he'll be back. Has
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: anyone asked Max Crosby because I don't think he's going
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: to be back. I think that is them. Now, hey,
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: we'll trade you, but let us act like you want
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: to be here, because your trade value goes down if
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: everybody thinks you're desperate to get out. So my guess,
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I think Max Crosby was so dug in and so
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: done with the Raiders organization that my guess is their
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  Speaker 2: conversations he made it. I mean, because that's be a
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: big turnaround with the same people, you know, you had, Clint,
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  Speaker 2: Clint Kubiak made that big of a difference in Max
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  Speaker 2: Crosby's life.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, on the other side of the ball, really kind
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  Speaker 4: of He.
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  Speaker 2: Went from showing videos of him being perfectly healthy even
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  Speaker 2: though he wasn't activated for that week in the National
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  Speaker 2: Football League, to announcing to the world that I'm done
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: with an organization that gives up on a season, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And then Clint Kubiak is that much of a charmer
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  Speaker 2: that he comes in and they have one meeting and
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: suddenly he's back on board. No, my guess is they
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: had one meeting. Crosby says, get rid of the get
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: rid of me, and they told him, well, let us
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: at least the best way for us to get rid
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: of you, because we got to get some we got
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: to get the maximum for you, is that least let
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: us tell you that there are some pro there's some
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: progress toward keeping him, and that will increase your value
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: versus decrease your trade value this offseason. That's my guess.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: I just can't imagine Clint Kubiak created a one to
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: eighty turnaround that quickly after one meeting with Max Crosby
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: this offseason. So I do think they still have a situation,
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: even though they're trying to play it off like they
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: just have a situation.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds to me like it's just a game
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  Speaker 3: of Yeah, we're gonna make him look bad.
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  Speaker 4: Look how much he loves it here. Oh, we don't
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  Speaker 4: want to let him go.
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  Speaker 3: You're gonna have to pay us a little or you're
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: gonna have to give us a lot in return, because
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: look at how much he wants to be here versus well,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: he doesn't want to be here, So can will you
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: guys take him?
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: I mean those are their two options basically.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think he should have trade value out there. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean there was stuff floating around about the Seahawks
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: like first round, two first round picks for Max. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: don't give up. I don't think he's worth two first
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: rounds well, and.
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  Speaker 3: Not his aga and the Raiders just don't aren't in
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: control of that anymore.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they can get a little bit of control,
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I think they are going to end up dealing him.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not gonna be the monster Joe Burrow trade
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: that I thrown out a couple of times. It's crazy,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: but I do think that he's going to be moved.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals, Trey Hendrickson's
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: situation has been a situation for so long it's now
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: just a situation because there is no way you can
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: do this again, to him, to your fan base, to
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: your locker room. Look, you've had plenty of time to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: work out a long term deal or to work out
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: a trade. You can't possibly do again what you did
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: last year where he doesn't show up at training camp,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: then he plays a few games half assed, and then
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: he gets hurt and you can't play for the rest
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: of the year. You can't do that again. So to me, yeah,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: it didn't turn out to be what you wanted the
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: relationship to be with with Trey Hendrickson, but you got
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: to cut your losses at this point. Let the guy
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: go and spend because there is a benefit to just
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: letting a guy go. Sure, you didn't get anything for
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: him in a trade, but you don't have to worry
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: about the headache. Number one, and then number two, you
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: do get to take that money you were going to
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: give to him, and you can spend it elsewhere. So
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: why do it again, Why even act like you're doing
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: it again. Let the man go, let him go into
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: free agency, and let another team roll the dice on
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: him and his future. Cincinnati Bengals need to be done
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: with Trey Hendricks.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, I agree, and that I think that is a
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: case of where egos kind of get involved. It's like, well, no,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: we we don't want to, you know, do the things
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: you want to do. We want you on our team,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: and blah blah blah blah. I mean, everybody's egos get involved,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: and then it turns into the situation that it was versus.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Thank you for using it perfectly in this segment.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: No, I'm happy to do it versus if you you know,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: if they could have just addressed to the situation the
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: first time round, you don't end up in this current situation,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: which is now a situation.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: You had a situation and then you turn it into
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: a situation, and then it was a situation for longer
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: than it should be and it was such a situation
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: for such a long period of time. Then now it's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: reduced to a situation.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and even fans are like, let's just move on
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: from this situation.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, it's very clear we can't do this again,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: so just let him become a free agent, y goodness sake.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And then the final one the to a situation and
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: it might be the ultimate situation this offseason. They don't
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: want him. They've made it very clear they don't want him.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: They've hired people that despise him, including Troy Aikman, to
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: be a consultant for the new head coach and the
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: new general manager. They want to get rid of him.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: They've made it too obvious they want to get rid
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: of him. He makes a lot of money, and they
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: are even to the point they might be willing to
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: give a team draft compensation just to take his contract
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: off their hands. But that contract is like fifty six
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: million dollars per year for a guy that might be
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: one concussion away from being done. And so I don't
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: know what kind of draft company you'd have to give
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: up for him two first rounders to just.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Take yeah, oh, I mean the Dolphins would have to
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: give y Yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd have to give two first rounders just to
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: get a team to take off your hands the contract.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: And then what if he ends up because he's not
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: without talent, he's not without ability. I mean, I think
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Hugh Mellen calls him one of the best pre read
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the National Football League. He could go somewhere else.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You've given up two first rounders for them to take him,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and he could still end up being good. Yeah, I
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: mean Sam Darnold is the perfect example. I mean, just
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: because it's not working for a talented quarterback in one
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: situation doesn't mean that if he doesn't get to a
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: better situation and leave behind his situation that he couldn't
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: in that new uniform, He's young enough to reignite his
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: career again. Uh. And so I don't know what they're
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: going to do, but I will bring up another topic
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: that I've discussed numerous times. I would trade him for
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. And if I could get him straight up,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: i'd do it, Yeah, straight across, and if I have
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: to give up a third rounder or fourth rounder in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: order to do it, because they hate their situation just
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: as much as you hate your situation. But maybe a
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: new environment for two highly thought of prospects at one time,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: one guy that went number one overall, a new environment,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: a new whisperer in the ear, a new system, a
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: new community. I think it's worth the flop just to
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: see if we can't. Because there's not a great end
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: game to this, right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're giving up two draft picks just
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: to get rid of him, you're losing a lot.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: You're losing a lot. But what if you could just
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: say you take our headache, we'll take your headache. Maybe
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: we've got the anecdote for your headache here in our city.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: And yes, Kyler Murray's doesn't seem to be as big
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a problem as Toua. So we'll give you a third
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: round pick instead of giving up two first rounders to
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: a team, just to take the entire situation off your hands.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: I'd just like to see that happen, because I don't
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: recall very many or if there's ever been just a
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: straight across trade of like you take our guy, we'll
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: take your guy.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: Let's just see what happens.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's happened, has it? Oh it happens? Yeah, yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I mean there have been plenty of teams that got
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: caught in situations.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: You just bail us out, help us.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: All right? Coming up next, Al Kaniski will be with us.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: This is the situation that faces us. The Kraken have
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: not played in three weeks. Are they going to come
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: out of the gates on fire? Or are they going
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to be struggling and rusted? We can't afford that. We're
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: gonna ask Al that question next on Sports Radio ninety
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: three point three KJRFM color analyst for your Seattle Crack,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: and Al Kanisky joins us at every Wednesday at nine thirty.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: We did talk to him last week, so it's not
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: like we haven't reconnected with Al during this break. But
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the team is back the crack, the real Krack and
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Shady are back tonight to get ready to take on
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the Dallas Stars in Texas, and so we had a
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: aim to discuss with Al Kiniski today. Good morning Out,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Good morning Chuck, I'm good. Everett did say yesterday that
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: he missed you while you were apart. Do you share
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the same sentiment? I do?
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, for an eighty two game season
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: where you're together more than you're not together. It felt
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: kind of weird being away for three weeks essentially since
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: this team saw the ice. So yeah, it was a
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: little odd mid season going apart for two weeks.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Did the players miss one another? I'm wondering how an
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: NHL locker room handles Canadians with so many Canadians in
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the locker room versus US players. After that, and then
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: we've also got two fins against the Swede in our
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: locker room as well, there'd be feelings in this locker
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: room tonight.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Well, let's just say that there were two fins that
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: had smiles on their face, and an even bigger smile
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: was Maddy Benier's because there was probably some internal competition
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: at what the Olympics about who was going to win,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: and maybe some I don't know that's were made allegedly,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: but yeah, he was pretty happy about the outcome. And
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: it's nice to see everybody back in the locker room
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: together after watching them compete on the big stage over
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: in Italy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: How did you handle it? How did you handle that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the US beat Canada two to one, even though Canada
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: seemed to outplay them in the end, the US wins it.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I am rejoicing in my voice, but trying to be
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: sympathetic towards you, Chuck.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I'll say all things that are true. Number One, Connor Hallibus,
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: the goalie for the US, played fantastic and he's the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: reason that they were left in the game because Canada
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: had more than enough opportunities to win it. Regulation Number two,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Canada had a five on three opportunity, they didn't score.
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: Number three, they had a wide open net that Nathan
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: McKinnon had a chance on he didn't score. And then
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: number three, yes, the US one goal. They are the
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: world champions of three on three hockey, which is how
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: the overtimes were played.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Hey, I don't like. I don't like the big games
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: are settled that way either. I don't think it should
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: be settled that way. Obviously, though those are the rules.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: We played by the rules. But do you think they
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: will change it at some point to make sure that
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: when there's such a big thing at stake, that we're
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: playing true hockey and not you know, three on three.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Well, when I put my fan hat on for a moment,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: I would love to see five on five hockey continue
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: until somebody scores a goal. I don't care how late
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: it goes. They might still be playing. Yeah, but when
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: you put your hat on the ownership of the GM,
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: of the coach of the team that these these players
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: come from, chances are there are a better chance they
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: get hurt as those those those overtime games go on.
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: And so I understand why they do three on three.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: It wasn't going to go twenty minutes. It probably wasn't
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: gonna go ten minutes. We felt like probably in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: first five someone was going to score a goal. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: part of the reason for that is play safety. There's
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: already enough guys coming back to their teams with in
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: some cases the season ending injuries or in other cases
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: the injuries that are just going to keep them out
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: of the lineup for a while. The Cracking got the
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: best outcome, which is they've got to you know, for
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: if you can't count Oscar Fisker, mogor down in the
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Coachella four guys coming back uninjured that have probably all
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: heightened their games and they're bringing that fighting game back
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: to the lineup, which I think is fantastic.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: How much do you think it will benefit the league
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: to get that momentum from Sunday going into this week?
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean every guy that was over there that played,
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: certainly in a metal games, has their chest a little bit,
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: has their like I said, their game heightened a little bit.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: The challenge for them is trying to keep that level
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: of game for the remaining twenty six games of the
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: season that the Crack and have. How can you keep
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: that going because you tend to play at the level
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: of the people around you, and you know, it's not
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: to say there's a big drop up, but there's absolutely
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: drop off because you're playing with the best in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: world when you're in the Olympics, so trying to keep
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: that level as high as possible to affect the outcomes
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: of the games. And every just about every team has
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: somebody that was over there, and some teams have more
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: than others. But you know, the Krack and face the
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Dallas starsonnight, and they've got a few guys that are
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: actually injured coming back from the Olympics, so you know
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: they're they're not going to see Jake Ottinger, who's typically
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: their number one goal goalie starter. They're going to see
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Casey the Smith who's had success against the Cracking, And
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: they still got Jason Robertson, they still got way Johnson.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: So it's not going to be an easy game, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: it might be an easier competition because of those guys
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: of the lineup. So the Cracking have to take advantage
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: of this opportunity because you know, they're three wins away
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: from Dean in first place, or three losses away from
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: booking tea times for the summer. So yeah, you know
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: they've got to take advantage of opportunities like this that
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: they've got tonight.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: And I would. I think the whole season rests on
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the way they come out and play, starting tonight, the
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: next five to ten games out, I think determines whether
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: or not the crack and make it to the playoffs.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: So how do you feel?
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're right. You know, you go on
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: a bit of a losing streak and go two and
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: eight in those ten or you go the opposite way.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe you're six and four, maybe you're eight and two.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: This team is definitely in a playoff spot. But I
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: think it's about, you know, maybe that thirty percent rule
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: where you might end up losing thirty percent. Maybe you
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: squeak a few points in overtime out of it, but
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: you can't go any on any extended losing streaks at
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: this point in the season. They've already had that happen
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: early in the season. It can't be that way anymore.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they won six of their last eight heading into
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: the three week layoff, and it felt to me, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong, I really got to lean
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: on you for this. It felt to me like that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: search for a number one line was finally rewarded. I mean,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: it just felt to me like they had identified a
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: line that was scoring most every night to close out
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: those eight over the course of those eight games, and
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I would assume they're going to start that way tonight
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: in Dallas.
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think that's right. I think that the
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: number one line, the line of Veneers everly in the
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: can is solidified, at least for right now. I would
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: not be surprised if they stay together for the rest
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: of the season. They've been playing really well. I'm not
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: sure they're really a gagline goal a game line yet,
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: but you'd love to see them get to that point
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: through the rest of the season. But I think that
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: this team has always had success with their depth. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: when you talk about depth and you see scoring coming
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: from the blue line, from their defense, and when you
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: see Shane Rice has got four goals in those last
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: two games, you're starting to see that scoring or not starting.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: But you're continue to see scoring come from not just
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: that number one line, but certainly the top three. And
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: when your fourth line contributes as well, this team's unstoppable.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: So if they can continue to execute on that recipe,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: you're going to see this team get a lot of
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: those wins over the next twenty six.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Games, all Right, so give us, give us the key.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, whether you get his role as you want
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: about it or get as granular and specific as you
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: want about it. Twenty five games to make the Stanley
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Cup playoffs. What will be the key to the crack
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and getting there?
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, I'll I'll give you a
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: little little insight into my keys tonight, which I'll talk
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: about in the pre game, which is, you've got to
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: start simple, right this first game coming out of the break,
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: certainly the month of March, but certainly the first game.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: You're kno going to rust off off your boots, off
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: your hands. You've got to play simple. That helps you
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: knock that rust off. So simple as part of the key,
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: at least for the few first few games, but certainly
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: over the next twenty six it's continuing to put a
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: priority on what has had you've had success with, which
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: is this lane Lambert defense first mentality, but attacking when
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: you get those opportunities. And then I think the third
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: one is is and you said it yourself, the starts.
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: This team does not have as much success win they
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: give up that first goal in the first period when
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: the first ten minutes look the opposing team is all
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: all over them. They've got to have good starts. You
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: couple that with great goaltending. For the rest of the season,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: We're going to be talking about this team, maybe not
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: just through the first round of the playoffs, but deeper
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: into the playoffs.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Well, glad to have the gang back together. Can't wait
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: to listen tonight. Everett fits you Al Kiniski on the call.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: It'll be cracking at the Dallas Stars pregame at four
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: point thirty five o'clock. They'll drop the puck. First game
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: in three weeks and time to get back on the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: winning track. So have a blast, Al, and we appreciate
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: your time. As always, you got to chuck good there.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: He is Al Konisky, color analyst for yours Seattle Crack
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: in his segment with Us brought to you every week
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: by Queen Anne beer Hall, home of a legendary smash
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: burger boy man. Al sells that smash burger man, he
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: really makes me want to get a smash burger.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I hope when I talk about food that people get
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: just as fired up as I get hearing Al talk
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: about smash burger.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: I know when I talk about dairy free cheese people
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: get super excited.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I need to have a talk with you off here.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It is your pre post and away game headquarters. It's
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: an away game tonight, So get on out to Queen
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Anne Beer Hall, have a smash burger, and welcome back
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the Kraken with open arms. We got a Stanley Cup
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: playoff to qualify.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Let's do it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Starts tonight very first, not just tonight, in the first
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: ten minutes. Al's right, you know, to a great start.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about a wed tonight. I'm
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: talking about the first ten minutes. I want to be
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: up two to nothing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: I want to be up seventeen to one.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Last thing. Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: All right, the final segment of this Wednesday edition of
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck in the Morning, sands Bucky and so
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: we always close things out, whether Bucky's here or not,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: with one last thing. So, Ashley, what do you got
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: back there?
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I have one child, right, So as
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: we embark upon the adventures that Palmer does through her life,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I am learning as we go because I learned from
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of the moms around me what they've done
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: with older kids or you know, they're very involved. I
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: have never realized the drama that is involved in a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: little league, oh, whether it's the little clicks that form
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: yeah and the or the anger that can happen when something,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: you know, when I guess maybe said click continues in
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: their clicky way, and then other people are left out.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: I look at it all as well. You try out
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: for a team, if.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You don't make the team, you don't make the team,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: you go to the other team, and and onward on
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: we go and use it as motivation, you know, get
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: better all of these things. But there's like an underlying drama.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: And it's not just in little league. It's at the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: elementary school too. Of this the way that things kind
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: of operate, and it operates with the people who are
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: really involved, and then everybody else who's on the outside
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  Speaker 3: just kind of gets put in to their certain place.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Unbeknownst to me, I didn't know it was a thing.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: And then I found out.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: This was kind of a thing with school with teacher
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: selections at the beginning of the year, and people were
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: angry about teacher selections. I don't know one teacher from
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: another teacher. I don't care if my kids happy with
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: the teacher. That's all I care about. I don't have
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: a gosh I hope for this teacher or I want
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: this teacher. I know nothing on purpose.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Well it was, yeah, I don't know what happened because
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it's sort of like your and my generation overlapped. Yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: I mean how much more. I don't remember Little League
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: being controversial at all. Well maybe it was in bigger cities,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, but in our small, little community,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I don't ever remember a parent having an issue. I
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: really don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I don't either, and I've just found out in the
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: last couple of years, like, yeah, there's there's some I
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: don't know if there's like maybe animosity towards the involvement
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: of some people. And then that because you especially with
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the Little League, right, if you coach a team, your
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: kid is on your team, right, and there's some strategy
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: that can be involved and implemented into coaching those teams,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: And then you get to select your kid and maybe
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: they're friends and their friends are could be very well
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: deserving of being on that team.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: But when other people.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: See that it happened, people get very upset and very angry.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And I'm not gonna lie kind of here for it,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: are you really? I mean, this is why you live
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: in the suburbs. There's nothing else going on. The drug
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: house that was next to me, that's long gone. So
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, at this point, this is my real, my
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Desperate Housewives. I'm like, all right, let's live with this
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Little League drama. Okay, I'm not mad by it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I don't get mad at it. So I love the gossip.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, tell me whether it's at the golf
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: course or on God, I sound like the ultimate suburban mom.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Whether it's at the golf course or school pickup or
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: little league, give me all the gossip and the drama.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It just seems to me like there's more people today
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: that make fun of little League dad and little league mom,
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: and yet the problem, instead of being stomped out, seems
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to get exaggerated every year. Yeah. I don't remember the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: little league dad and a little league mom getting made
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: fun of when I was a kid, but I do
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: know that it gets I mean South Park did in
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: an entire episode on little League Dad who always wanted
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: to get in a fight with everybody in the crowd.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: So there's more like slant, like crushing little league mom
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: and little league dad, soccer mom and soccer dad than
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: ever before. But it doesn't seem to have any effect.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: The problem seems to get worse. But if you're saying
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: it's not a problem, I'm here for it, well, then
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I wish you're best of luck.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: I just wish I had some popcorn.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're in there, you're mixing it up with savages.
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, I just didn't realize like
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: how cutthroat it can be and how volatile, and I'm like, oh,
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: this is all.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: New to me.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good luck this year. Thanks just getting started. Yeah. Yeah,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: and I think you're entering now the real Now they're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: like gets really competitive. Before it was just cute to
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: have your kid on the team. Yeah, now it starts
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: to get competitive. Yeah.
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Now we're in miners and majors and we have those
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: tryouts and we are not in majors. We are in minors,
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: which is just fine. We made the team we're supposed
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: to make. It's totally fine. Like you know, yeah, was
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Palmer disappointed? Of course, who wouldn't be. But then you say, okay, cool,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: let's go.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Let's get it on.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, you know what, work hard, show those
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: people what they missed.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to see you scratch out the eyes of
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: a little league mom from Boffel this year.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Not Baffel. We don't mix.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Just kidding, all right. I'll just close quickly with this.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're doing the pajama party, that's what I
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: call the NFL Combine this weekend. But I was thinking
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: about it, like, as much as you don't, I liked
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: pajama parties. Why did they? They kind of went away?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: They kind of go away. What's the age that you
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: stopped doing pajama parties?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: See Palmer's eleven. We still have them, still have them?
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say probably high school. Maybe, I don't know,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: haven't gotten there yet.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: I can let you know.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you still might throw one every once. Oh yeah.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: She has a slummer party for every birthday and then
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: just some friends over every once.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: In a while.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And I also saw this just quickly from online yesterday.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: It's not my material, but I think it's worthy. I
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: really grew up thinking quicksand was going to be a
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: bigger problem than it's turned out to be. Yes, then
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: you watch every movie and show and somebody was dying
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: in quicksand Princess Bryan.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, never rodents of unusual size.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: I've never run across quicksand in my life. Really thought
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: that was going to be a bigger issue when I
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: became an adult than it turns out to be.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I really did too, And I saw somebody that also said,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: I really thought I was gonna be on fire a
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: lot more like because you always had to practice stop,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: drop and roll for all those times you might catch
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: on fire.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Those two things I fully agree.
• 37:58
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