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  Bringing together the most passionate fans, insightful analysts, and dynamic creators from
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  Now holler school, purple and cold.
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  Put that on the purple blood that's running through these golden veins.
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  Billion dollar stadium on Sundays.
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  I'm like Aaron Jones.
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  I see the fail clearly gained a 150 yards off the 12 carries.
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  In two tugs, I see you crack a can of ice cold.
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  Whoop ass on the Packers fan.
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  Downtown Minneapolis, we pack the stands and put our hands above our heads when we clap our
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  Welcome in to the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  You are here tonight for Vikings United.
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  You know what time it is.
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  It's time for that mock draft two point o.
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  We're excited to be here.
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  Got my boy, Big Bean, with me.
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  As always, he's got the skull clap on.
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  So cool.
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  Is it is it Thursday yet?
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  I mean, come on.
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  I mean Yeah.
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  You've done right.
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  If if you can't get hyped up listening to that song, again, shout out to Prince who made that
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  for us.
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  But, the draft is what?
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  48 out?
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  No.
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  To to the yeah.
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  Lester, around forty eight hours until draft.
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  Got a lot to talk about.
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  Giants made a big move.
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  Can't wait to see how that affects the draft.
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  Cancel what the Vikings do.
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  Hopefully, they hit a home run at eighteen.
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  So
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  No doubt.
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  Waiting for coach Cody still.
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  I hope someone let him know that we're on.
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  I'm sure we did, but, we'll get back to him.
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  We got a special guest with us tonight from our SPSN scratch project.
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  Pods plays golf.
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  Gonna join us tonight, Pods.
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  What's shaking, buddy?
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  Not much.
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  Just doing a little bit of cramming right before this.
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  So
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  There you go.
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  Hey.
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  That's alright.
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  I don't study at all.
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  I I just roll with it.
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  Nope.
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  That's why we got all our devices in front of us.
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  Just roll with it.
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  Yeah.
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  Man, don't know if I don't know if Corey's gonna be joining us because he just posted a
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  nice little dinner plate there, and looks like he's at some kind of steak house, porterhouse
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  or something.
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  So Oh, nice.
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  Nice.
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  So if he's not working, he's eating.
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  So Finished finish Hey.
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  I've just finished up all my anniversary stuff.
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  We're gonna have cake after this,
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  but Oh.
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  Well, happy anniversary.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  I'm sure she's excited.
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  I shaved.
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  I got nice looking for her and everything.
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  I see that.
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  I see that.
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  Well, tonight's gonna be a lot of fun.
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  We're gonna do our mock draft two point o.
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  Little bit different than the last time.
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  We did pass a couple of trades back and forth last week.
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  This week, we're gonna use the NFL mock draft database today where actually we'll have trades
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  that'll be coming in as well as being able to get our trades.
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  So, yeah, we'll kinda see a little bit better idea maybe what's out there and everything.
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  I'm excited about it.
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  It's you know, really, we're just passing time.
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  Right?
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  We're we're passing time.
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  We're excited.
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  We're ready to get this underway.
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  Vikings that pick 18 on Thursday, what are they gonna do with it?
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  Do they stick and pick?
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  Are they trading back?
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  Do they package something together to trade up?
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  We've talked about it ad nauseam.
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  You know, you've heard it on all the other platforms.
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  Raps had some really great coverage of the team.
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  Justin Jefferson had some really interesting comments this week as well as they started, you
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  know, off season team activities, and and you got to hear from him for the first time since
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  the Vikings signed Kyler Murray.
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  I thought that was really pointed.
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  And and you you send the quote to me, b, and and I listened to it today on Purple Daily.
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  They were were talking about it as well.
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  And, I mean, that's kinda what I've been saying since the the signing happened.
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  I don't think, and I think it's fine to say that Kyler is the front runner for that job.
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  I think anyone with a brain, would assume that as well.
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  But you want to leave the door open for JJ McCarthy to show the growth that you want to
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  you know, you've been expecting from this young man and to go out there and ball out against,
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  you know, his teammate and to provide that.
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  And what I've always stated is that you have raised the floor of your short quarterback room
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  this year, substantially by bringing in a talent like Kyler Murray.
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  Do I think he's the day one starter still?
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  It it seems to be kind of the odds on favorite at this point, but even your statements from,
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  you know, from Jefferson, kind of left that door open.
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  It sounds like he's been working with them and getting out there and making sure that he's
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  ready.
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  And, you know, I'm still bullish on JJ McCarthy, whether that's for better or worse.
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  I know a lot of fans are just out and done with him, Kyler is all of a sudden the savior of
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  this entire franchise and their playoff woes.
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  I don't think that's the case at all.
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  I'm a little more measured with, you know, my opinions there.
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  Kyler's proven to be a a more than, you know, a more than capable quarterback in this league,
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  but that was also when he was, you know, fresh, ready, and, you know, new to the league.
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  At this point, the the tape's kinda out on this player as well.
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  Coming off a major injury.
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  You you don't know what you're going to get out there on the field.
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  And I just think that whether it's JJ having to prove himself with just second team reps, I'm
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  okay with that too.
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  I feel like he can show you things just with the reps and with his footwork and all these
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  things that they've really been hammering on him about and can make a difference.
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  And, you know, you're still rolling the dice that Kyler Murray makes it through the season
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  without an injury.
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  You know, know that there's I I don't think he's necessarily injury prone.
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  These things happen in the league, especially with guys that move around like he does.
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  But I would feel a lot better knowing that you have a young talent in in McCarthy waiting
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  there rather than, you know, Carson Wentz.
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  And Carson was serviceable last year.
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  The guy just had his whole shoulder replaced.
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  This.
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  Right?
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  Like and I know it's the non throwing shoulder, maybe not as big of a deal, but we're we're
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  still talking about a a major injury on that front as well.
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  So to just like, you put yourself right back in the same position as you were last year, you
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  know, by by scrambling.
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  So I like what they did.
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  I think it's gonna be interesting to see what plays out over the course of these OTAs, and
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  then you're gonna have, you know, rookie minicamp, veteran minicamp, and then on into a
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  full camp before the season gets started.
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  And I think there's a a lot of opportunity there for a JJ McCarthy to make some noise.
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  And I think that, you know, Justin Jefferson's comments today kind of echo what we've been
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  saying here at SPSN.
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  No.
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  And, you know, all along you know, I mean, Kyle referred to me, you sign them.
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  You don't have time to be a backup.
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  You sign them.
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  Most likely, they'd be the starter.
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  You want JJ to learn.
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  You know, to me, I still think it's gonna affect the how the play is based on the
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  offensive line.
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  That's something I still think that needs to be addressed.
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  Is Callum Murray better than JJ?
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  You know, maybe.
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  I mean, maybe he can make some different plays based on his experience in the league.
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  I mean, guys, remember, this is technically JJ's third year, second year off the injury.
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  You know, so I I just hope it motivates the kid like like Jefferson said.
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  Let's hopefully, he steps up.
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  Hopefully, he's motivated.
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  Hopefully, he comes in with the ego, and then he wants to beat Callum Murray out, and I'll
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  perform them.
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  I I referenced to the movie draft day when they're in the locker room, the quarterback is
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  upset because they traded for the number one pick, And he's just like, fine.
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  Draft them.
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  I'll just beat them out.
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  I mean and that's kinda hope the way McCarthy, I hope, takes this.
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  And, you know, maybe he does it.
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  Maybe he beats them out, but yet they still start with Murray.
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  Might be a possibility, but I think I I just think he's he's gotta just step up and show
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  that he is Minnesota's future because that's something Minnesota hasn't had since Dante
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  Culpepper franchise quarterback to build around, and that's something we've been
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  climbing for for years.
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  No
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  doubt.
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  And and you have an opportunity here.
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  And, Pods, I don't know how much you've been, you know, following a little bit of the drama
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  in the off season here with the Vikings.
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  But what are your thoughts on kind of just the situation, I guess, as it is?
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  Having a young quarterback who didn't have a great season, but you also didn't have a a lot
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  of setup for success in that season.
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  You bring in a veteran guy that you didn't have to spend a lot of money on.
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  I think that's the most unique part of this situation is that you were paying Kyler Murray
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  just over a million bucks to come in, and this is obviously a starting caliber quarterback in
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  this league, someone who is drafted.
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  Was he numb a number one pick?
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  Yeah.
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  He was a number one overall winner.
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  Right.
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  So, I I mean, obviously, there there's no doubting the talent that a Kyler Murray has.
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  Now I I think what we've alluded to a lot in our talk is the the kids want to.
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  Right?
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  Does he want to be a a great player in this league, or does he just wanna kind of, you
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  know, kick his feet up and be, you know, a a good player, right, or a pretty good player
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  even at that?
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  So interesting to me to see what happens.
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  Is this a motivating factor for him coming to a new team, that's not the Arizona cardinals that
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  have playoff aspirations, that have a top 10 defense, you know, an organization that's
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  obviously run a lot differently than the Arizona cardinals?
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  So is it a motivating factor to Kyler Murray as well?
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  What what's your thoughts, pods?
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  I think that it is a motivating factor to definitely have the opportunity to go to the
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  playoffs because, for one, you've got Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison.
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  So that's a viable one and two punch right there on your offense.
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  You've got Hawkinson as your tight end, which is really nice.
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  It's a really good blocking piece and a leak out option route guy who can leak off the line
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  after a chip and get you five, ten yards in the end zone or if you need a critical third down.
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  I think the problem that I have with both quarterbacks is their mentality.
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  Now could it be that Kyler developed that mentality because, oh my gosh.
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  I'm playing in Arizona.
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  Why the hell should I care?
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  This organization doesn't even take itself seriously, which to anyone who says that, you
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  know what, that's kinda true because they really haven't taken things seriously since
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  Fitzgerald and Warner were in the building.
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  It's just been a constant rebuild for the last fifteen years.
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  Then you have JJ McCarthy, which I understand you're bullish on the kid because he was your
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  guys' when did you guys draft him?
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  First round, what pick?
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  Tenth Yeah.
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  Tenth overall, three years ago.
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  You should have picked him up in the third round.
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  Honestly and I might be I know you're bullish on him, Bubba, but JJ McCarthy is gonna be a
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  backup within the next two years, if that.
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  The kid's just not that good.
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  And mentally, he's not mature at all.
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  He's still playing like he's in high school or, like, he still played in that Michigan national
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  championship.
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  He still thinks, like, I'm that guy when he's not that guy.
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  He's one of 32 other guys.
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  The only group of guys right now that there is is Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes,
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  Joe Burrow, if he decides to stay or not.
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  There's been some retirement talk from him, I think, due to injuries and whatnot and him
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  questioning how mobile he'll be after his career, which, hey, fair to him.
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  And then the guy in there, Justin Herbert, which I don't think he gets talked about
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  enough.
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  So those are your guys right now.
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  JJ McCarthy couldn't lace their cleats as he is right now.
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  He needs to be in the film room.
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  But where does Kyler fall on that list then?
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  If Kyler
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  So he's not a guy either is what you're saying is that Kyler isn't one of those elite guys,
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  but he's 20 Kyler
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  is like your tier two, like, your tier three kinda guy.
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  He's a serviceable starter, but he's not gonna make or break your franchise.
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  He's like your Alex Smith, maybe a little less than an Alex Smith.
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  He will keep you on a steady pace until you find that guy.
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  He's a bridge quarterback at best.
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  Mhmm.
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  I personally think you guys should trade your eighteenth pick and maybe someone else and try
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  to trade up in the draft to go get a quarterback or hang on to it and see what the
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  quarterback class looks like next year.
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  Unless you plan on trading and making a big bloss or a big blockbuster free agent signing
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  here in the next couple years, but pretty much all the QBs are locked down right now.
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  Yeah.
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  They're worth anything.
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  No.
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  You're gonna have to get out of the draft.
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  No one in this draft QB.
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  There's only one quarterback that's in the top.
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  So, I mean, if you're gonna do that, you're looking at next year to to draft a quarterback.
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  And I don't know that, Kevin O'Connell wants to go that route anyway.
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  He doesn't want a young quarterback.
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  He wants a veteran that understands
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  But then you guys are gonna be struggling for the next eight years.
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  What do you what what do you call the last eighty years?
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  Yeah.
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  Pain.
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  Yeah.
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  No.
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  But you're I mean, you're you're right.
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  I mean, no.
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  I still think McCarthy still has to prove that he can play.
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  I'm not I'm not one that says that, oh, he's gonna be a backup or with a bust.
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  You know, to me, I still think we have to get a serviceable offensive line and see what this
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  kid or Kyler Murray can do.
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  I mean, even with with Vince.
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  I mean, last year, our offensive line was garbage.
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  And, I mean, look at what Seattle did.
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  They they have a decent offensive line.
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  They took Sam Darnold, went to the Super Bowl.
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  Now a lot of Viking fans here and and Bubba Buckeye.
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  It did.
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  But, again, what Thanks
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  for tuning in, KP.
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  Appreciate you.
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  What have Donald put up the same numbers behind that office line that the Vikings said?
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  Probably not.
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  You know?
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  So squeeze
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  in more, Vivian.
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  Yo.
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  What's up?
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  Yo.
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  Thanks for the
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  you guys.
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  Little comments and stuff.
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  But but that's my whole look at it.
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  I appreciate you tuning in, though.
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  Yeah.
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  That's my whole thought of it is you can't tell me that Sam Donald would've put up three
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  numbers you did in Seattle here with this offensive line.
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  And that's my key thing is I need to see a better offensive line before I could judge JJ
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  or I or Kyler Murray on how successful they'll be in this office.
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  It well, let me talk to you about this because there's a lot of talk right now, obviously,
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  about trading JJ now because his value can do nothing but go down.
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  If he's a backup this year to Murray and doesn't see the field, you're not going to get
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  as much value as you are at the current moment even if that is a third round pick.
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  I'm not necessarily in that camp of pods.
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  What do you think?
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  I mean, you've got an outside perspective here.
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  If somebody calls with a third or fourth round pick for your young quarterback that you were
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  hoping was the future of the franchise, are you taking that deal and just cutting bait and
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  moving on?
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  I think I take that deal just simply because that third round pick could get me another
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  offensive lineman.
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  Yep.
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  And that's more valuable at this current point in time and in the future than a project.
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  Yep.
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  No.
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  Podge, you're you're exactly right.
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  And, honestly, there's in my eyes, looking at the roster, there's maybe three guys on the
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  Vikings roster that's untouchable.
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  After the kicker, and I like Madison, so I wouldn't trade Madison.
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  But but those definitely are the two for sure guys that I would not trade.
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  Anybody else you you call and I feel the offer's worth it, I'm trading.
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  Yeah.
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  And the thing too is if you can get a third rounder for JJ, that helps you get a lineman,
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  but also that also secures your eighteenth pick with getting someone like okay.
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  Let's see.
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  If in the eighteenth pick, I would go with someone like, if you need interior, Caleb or
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  sorry.
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  McDonald from Ohio State.
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  Mhmm.
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  He's that nose guard interior 31.
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  Great run stopper.
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  Great at applying pressure in the pass rush.
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  But then you've also got where you need your safety help, and you've gotta get someone like
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  Caleb Downs out of Ohio State.
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  Yeah.
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  Caleb's gonna do that far.
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  I the lot of my drafts I've seen, Vikings are taking a defensive player, and most likely,
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  it's gonna be the safety or corner.
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  Tillman, we drafted him last week on our show at CT.
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  And I think how you say it.
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  Theneman.
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  And then the next quarterback, who we've kinda talked about, on that list, and that's kind of
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  in that range, has been Avion Terrell.
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  I've seen him mocked in that space a little bit.
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  Some people are higher on him than than others.
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  But, yeah, I think we just go ahead and hit it.
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  We've talked enough about it.
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  Let's go ahead and start the draft.
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  Obviously, we know the Las Vegas Raiders are first on the clock.
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  I'm pretty sure what's gonna happen here, but I'm gonna go ahead and hit start.
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  I I still feel the raiders should trade that pick.
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  I don't think
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  at any point to talk about a trade up.
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  Maybe 12, I think, is kind of a a spot where we have, you know, explored before.
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  But I guess You
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  know, I would I say if we we stop at ten let's stop at ten, see who's out there first, and
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  then we could think about if we got enough mustard to move up from 18.
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  Giants just picked Caleb Downs at pick 10.
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  So We ain't going nowhere.
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  That's that's kinda where that fell.
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  And yeah, and and that's the thing too.
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  Now with the Giants with two first round picks, I mean, in the top 10, I mean, that kinda
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  changes up a lot of mock boards.
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  I think Harbaugh's gonna go strong on defense.
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  He's got a young Well,
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  he just traded Dexter Lawrence.
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  So Yeah.
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  With their pick number five, the Giants got Reese, linebacker at Ohio State.
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  Yeah.
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  And then Caleb Downs just went with their tenth pick.
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  So, no real to me, that was the one player that you were trying to trade up for.
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  I don't think you got enough juice to get into the top 10, but I was kinda playing around with
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  it earlier, with that.
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  Was able to get to 12 without with giving up some some late round picks and shuffling some
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  stuff around.
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  So I'm gonna go ahead and roll it.
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  We're just gonna roll to the eighteenth pick.
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  Yeah. If
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  If any Let's offers
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  come our way and what we can get moving here.
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  So we have Realistically, realistically,
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  I think the big what's that, Bubba?
• 23:48
  Five trade offers.
• 23:50
  Okay.
• 23:51
  Let's hear them.
• 23:53
  Well, let's update you.
• 23:54
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• 24:07
  Just wanna address the comments.
• 24:08
  Let's jump back in to what we got going on in the draft here.
• 24:11
  So five separate trade offers that came in here, fellas.
• 24:15
  The first one was from New England.
• 24:17
  Now there is no first round pick back on this one.
• 24:21
  So interesting strategy here, but they did offer a second, a third, a fourth, actually,
• 24:27
  two fourths, and a twenty twenty seven second rounder.
• 24:32
  So Holy picks for the eighteenth, but you are sliding all the way back to your first pick in
• 24:40
  the draft is not happening until, until pick 49.
• 24:46
  It would
• 24:47
  But we could use some of that firepower move back later in the first round too.
• 24:52
  Let's see.
• 24:52
  Now Theinamin is still on the board.
• 24:56
  So, I mean, that's Theinamin and the tight end, Kenyon Sadiq, who we've talked about a lot as
• 25:02
  well, still on the board.
• 25:04
  Some notables left on the board too.
• 25:06
  Ruben Bain, edge rusher out of Miami.
• 25:09
  The game.
• 25:11
  Offensive tackle Spencer Fano out of Utah.
• 25:16
  Monroe Freeling, offensive tackle out of Georgia.
• 25:21
  Kenyon Siddiqui, who I just mentioned, and then Dylan Theineman are kind of your, you know,
• 25:27
  rounding out those next maybe five players on the big board that are available is passing on
• 25:34
  your safety, who I think everyone is pretty high on.
• 25:38
  All of the mock drafts have kind of had that in there.
• 25:42
  Are you passing on that for five picks and coming out of the first round completely?
• 25:48
  To me, coming out of the first round entirely just doesn't seem like a great move.
• 25:55
  So let's look at the rest of the offers.
• 25:56
  That was from New England.
• 25:59
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  Same thing.
• 26:00
  This Baltimore one doesn't even sniff it.
• 26:02
  They wanted to trade their second a second next year and around five next year.
• 26:06
  We don't
• 26:06
  want anything to do with that.
• 26:07
  KC's offer is not even worth bringing up.
• 26:10
  Cleveland's offer, again, not much there.
• 26:12
  So really what you're getting in value in pushing it out, you're getting a lot of picks
• 26:19
  from New England for that 18, but you are pushing your entire draft now into the second,
• 26:26
  third round.
• 26:26
  And adding that second extra, I think, is extremely valuable with what they're already
• 26:30
  talking about being a much deeper draft.
• 26:33
  That piece may be something, pods, as you were alluding to earlier, that may become a a asset
• 26:41
  to trade up in the first round to maybe go get yourself a a quarterback of the future if you
• 26:49
  decide to go that way.
• 26:51
  So they did a throw throw in the thirty first pick?
• 26:55
  No.
• 26:55
  No.
• 26:55
  Was this was straight.
• 26:58
  They they are trading the rest of their draft essentially to go up and and to draft twice in
• 27:04
  the first round.
• 27:06
  So that would put the Vikings drafting 4963.
• 27:12
  I I think we have an 80 something, the 95.
• 27:15
  Mhmm.
• 27:16
  We would have I think that would make four fourth rounders in there.
• 27:21
  So you wanna talk about restocking a lineup and bringing it in.
• 27:25
  Now the problem being that you're not getting that grade a talent.
• 27:29
  You're probably not getting starters.
• 27:31
  That second round pick, I would say, probably.
• 27:34
  Your third round pick, more than likely a a serviceable backup, maybe not getting anything
• 27:40
  out of them this year other than maybe some special teams depending on who you pick there.
• 27:46
  The fourth rounders, yeah, hard to say.
• 27:50
  Right?
• 27:50
  I I think we would all agree.
• 27:52
  You don't know what you're going to get with the fourth rounder, but that could be guys that
• 27:56
  end up starting in the league for ten years as well.
• 28:00
  Right?
• 28:00
  And you're getting two shots at that.
• 28:02
  To me, the most enticing piece out of all of this is actually the twenty twenty seven second
• 28:08
  rounder next year.
• 28:10
  It's really Go hard ahead, b.
• 28:14
  What would be what would be interesting is I like the I like it, but it'll be interesting to
• 28:20
  see what we could do with those picks and maybe drop down one or two and still get the tight
• 28:28
  end or the corner.
• 28:29
  I mean, that would or the safety.
• 28:31
  I mean, that would be kinda interesting.
• 28:34
  What's that?
• 28:35
  I said I don't know if I can counter offer them.
• 28:39
  Yeah.
• 28:39
  This is your second.
• 28:41
  Give us your first.
• 28:42
  Right?
• 28:43
  We'll drop You're not getting there first.
• 28:45
  Third, fourth.
• 28:46
  Right.
• 28:46
  Exactly.
• 28:47
  Yeah.
• 28:49
  I mean, I I would I would stay there.
• 28:51
  I mean, I I like the offer.
• 28:53
  I like the picks.
• 28:54
  It it it would be something that it would be different if we could stop at every pick and be
• 28:59
  like, okay.
• 29:00
  You know, Carolina's next.
• 29:02
  Let's see if we could take some of the assets we just got and move back into that pick and
• 29:06
  see if we can get our our corner.
• 29:09
  You know?
• 29:09
  But I I would honestly just draft our our corner at 18 if he's still there.
• 29:14
  See, here's what I think.
• 29:17
  And, guys, I don't I don't mean any disrespect when I say this because I I'm a Kansas City
• 29:21
  Chiefs fan, so we've had great success drafting defensive, especially in the sec, in the
• 29:28
  secondary in the late rounds.
• 29:32
  I would take the trade because that is shoring up a lot of draft stock.
• 29:37
  And then on top of that, that second round pick next year could become crucial in moving up to
• 29:42
  pick again.
• 29:43
  And that could also if you don't end up using that, could be used as trade leverage to get
• 29:49
  back into the first round even if it's the late first round to get into, like, the twenty
• 29:53
  second pick or something.
• 29:54
  Yeah.
• 29:55
  No.
• 29:55
  And you're right.
• 29:56
  That's why it is intriguing to me.
• 29:58
  And it's one of those things if we if we had a whole day to sit here and be like, okay.
• 30:03
  Let's let's do you know, who who does doing a draft?
• 30:06
  And, I mean, honestly, at the tight end, if if we do the scenario, the tight end and the
• 30:12
  safety are gone, I'm definitely taking that trade a 100 times.
• 30:16
  New England would be giving you this trade offer to go and get another lineman to shore
• 30:20
  up that line for May.
• 30:22
  Yeah.
• 30:23
  I I believe thing.
• 30:25
  And I know, like because sometimes as a Chiefs fan, we have to, like, come back down to
• 30:30
  reality and be like, okay.
• 30:32
  We would want Jeremiah Love, but we just went and got Kenneth Walker.
• 30:35
  Yep.
• 30:37
  So our ninth pick realistically is probably gonna be Ruben Bain junior out of Miami for the
• 30:41
  defensive edge because we plan on probably trading Chris Jones.
• 30:45
  Yep.
• 30:46
  Now for the Vikings, I would trade that eighteenth pick because then not only are you
• 30:51
  getting draft capital and getting that crucial second round piece
• 30:55
  Mhmm.
• 30:56
  But this season's already a bust.
• 31:02
  Already don't have the line, and you don't have the
• 31:04
  Well, no.
• 31:05
  And and you're and you're right.
• 31:06
  We don't have the line, but, I mean, it's strange that things could happen.
• 31:10
  Be you could be using the season, though, to trade some older pieces Yep.
• 31:14
  To shore up for next season and talk to Kyler.
• 31:18
  And then it's something that Bogo has brought up too is we gotta get younger.
• 31:22
  And the thing is is the Vikings have to hit and we brought this up.
• 31:26
  As a Viking Fed, they gotta hit this draft.
• 31:29
  So, I mean, is it the capital, the game players?
• 31:32
  And giggle, should we just accept this trade?
• 31:35
  That would be accepted.
• 31:37
  I would accept it.
• 31:39
  Thirds, two seconds, three thirds, two fourths, and that's just getting started.
• 31:46
  I you know what?
• 31:47
  If we wanna fix it, because we did the trade where we stuck and pick last time, I like it.
• 31:52
  I I had rejected
• 31:53
  I I like the trade too, but I also like that corner.
• 31:56
  So that's the thing that I would stop it, like, coming
• 31:59
  forward and draft next year and see what that second round pick ends up becoming.
• 32:03
  That's, like, my one trepanation is, like, you're trading for one pick that you don't know
• 32:07
  what comes of it, but that gives you two
• 32:09
  separate options.
• 32:10
  Like like, pop like, we can also can also take that second round next year, maybe the second
• 32:16
  this year, and trade with Pittsburgh or trade with Dallas, you know, somebody that's a couple
• 32:21
  picks down if our guy is still sitting there.
• 32:25
  You know?
• 32:25
  Let's just
• 32:27
  just still get those two fourths and a seventh.
• 32:30
  We're we're down to New England's thirty first pick.
• 32:34
  Oh, you were quick.
• 32:35
  Dylan Dylan Bienerman went twenty eighth.
• 32:39
  Kenyon Sadiq went 27.
• 32:41
  So those are and then Avion Terrell went at pick 30.
• 32:45
  So
• 32:46
  So we could have probably stopped it and probably got back to the first round.
• 32:50
  Yeah.
• 32:50
  Possibly.
• 32:52
  Possibly.
• 32:53
  But is it worth trading the capital that you just stacked up to trade right back to get into
• 32:59
  the first
• 33:00
  to Yes.
• 33:01
  Yes and yes and no because the the you know, down the road or the contract for Tillman at 18
• 33:10
  is gonna be a lot different than at 28 or whatever.
• 33:15
  I mean
• 33:16
  again, we did it.
• 33:18
  We traded.
• 33:18
  We got some capital.
• 33:19
  There because there was a you know, Bubba, there's a lot of guys we liked size wise later
• 33:24
  in the rounds that we just did we were tossing and turning.
• 33:30
  So
• 33:31
  And we're still here with New England at 31 as well and Seattle 32 with Emmanuel McNeil
• 33:39
  Warren, the safety out of Toledo.
• 33:42
  You have you you still have some guys in here.
• 33:45
  Do we wanna see just for fun what it would take to trade back, maybe not with New England, but
• 33:52
  to trade with Seattle for that 32
• 33:55
  overall.
• 33:56
  Tell you.
• 33:58
  What?
• 33:58
  I think you've got two aging players right now that you could trade on a one year mercenary
• 34:03
  deal to them to potentially get in that pick, and you could put together a package with
• 34:10
  potentially either Harrison Smith or Hargrave to to actually do that.
• 34:16
  On contract, I don't believe.
• 34:19
  We kinda went over that.
• 34:20
  I cannot trade players in this mock draft simulator.
• 34:23
  Oh, well, the only one player player.
• 34:26
  That that would be us.
• 34:28
  Hey.
• 34:28
  I'm not paying who's about to go under right at the end of their their last gas here before the
• 34:35
  draft.
• 34:35
  I'm not giving them any money.
• 34:37
  Yeah.
• 34:38
  I I don't care enough about this stuff to to do that.
• 34:41
  But let's see.
• 34:42
  For 32, let's see what it would take, to get that.
• 34:47
  Can we trade the one and the three that we traded?
• 34:51
  Nope.
• 34:51
  That's not enough.
• 34:53
  Nope.
• 34:53
  That's not we can trade all the picks that we got from New England back, and it's still not
• 34:57
  enough.
• 34:58
  No.
• 34:58
  No.
• 34:59
  Alright.
• 35:00
  Let's move on then.
• 35:02
  Well well
• 35:03
  You guys have to remember too that you guys can get people off of practice squads as well.
• 35:06
  Oh, you were.
• 35:07
  Yeah.
• 35:08
  Yeah.
• 35:08
  That are kinda sneaky.
• 35:09
  So but the thing is is we can't I mean, as a fan and as a guy that wants to get younger, I
• 35:16
  mean, you know Well, not how you do it.
• 35:19
  Right?
• 35:19
  That that that trade says we are folding this year.
• 35:24
  Right?
• 35:25
  It says we are no.
• 35:27
  We're not
• 35:27
  We are folding.
• 35:28
  Smith is not gonna come back.
• 35:32
  You know? Are
• 35:32
  Are restocking the coffers and doing it.
• 35:35
  We did
• 35:35
  get It probably buys KOC it probably buys KOC another year because, you know Okay.
• 35:42
  You you trade up the you trade out of the first round.
• 35:44
  So Bee, Bubba, I gotta ask you this as you guys are both Vikings fans.
• 35:49
  Right?
• 35:50
  I am yeah.
• 35:52
  Probably came over last year because of things.
• 35:55
  So
• 35:56
  So would you when okay.
• 35:58
  And this is gonna sound you know?
• 36:01
  But Kansas City and we had to do this too.
• 36:04
  If not now, then when?
• 36:07
  When do you restock?
• 36:08
  When do you finally start building for the future?
• 36:10
  I know
• 36:10
  that's a of something.
• 36:12
  That's a lot of talk in Minnesota right now, Pods, is that you you're always trying to,
• 36:18
  like, stay in this competitive window and always just, like, make the tournament, but
• 36:23
  never building a championship roster because you're always picking middle of the pack.
• 36:27
  You're never doing enough.
• 36:29
  You're you're piecing it together with, you know, veteran quarterbacks that you're trying
• 36:33
  to make it work with.
• 36:35
  Your defense ends up being stellar because you have a wizard in Brian Flores as your DC that
• 36:42
  puts together this kind of amoeba defense that that is a a hybrid and just gets the best out
• 36:49
  of the players, but you are constantly struggling.
• 36:52
  I think a lot of people obviously look to the quarterback position, and that was the swing
• 36:58
  that they took, you know, three years ago when they drafted McCarthy.
• 37:01
  Was okay.
• 37:02
  Then we're gonna get a young guy and to go out there and get it.
• 37:05
  Did they pick the wrong guy?
• 37:06
  Yes.
• 37:07
  It seem it would seem at this point the answer is yes.
• 37:10
  But you also selected him at tenth overall.
• 37:12
  Right?
• 37:13
  You didn't draft him two or three.
• 37:14
  I was I was a Chicago fan my entire life.
• 37:17
  I watched this draft Mitch Trubisky, and now they have Caleb Williams, who I think is
• 37:21
  extremely talented.
• 37:22
  But half of the city hates him and everything that he represents as well.
• 37:26
  So you can't win, and they passed on the ball.
• 37:28
  Right?
• 37:29
  Well, and I wasn't gonna say anything.
• 37:32
  Well, and the thing it had there.
• 37:35
  The the one thing is is the Vikings had a chance to to rectify everything in ninety or
• 37:43
  eight nineteen when Lamar came out and they ended up canning Caleb.
• 37:51
  They signed Kurt.
• 37:52
  They could've drafted Lamar.
• 37:54
  It two picks who went two picks after the Vikings.
• 37:58
  And we probably woulda had our quarterback set up I think what he was trying
• 38:01
  to say is in '19, they shoulda drafted Lamar because he has more versatile, the dual threat
• 38:07
  there, but instead they locked it down and gave Kirk that huge contract, which, hey, they got
• 38:12
  it to a couple playoffs even though the first run back off with Kase Keenum
• 38:16
  before that.
• 38:17
  Brought Kase Keenum back and then drafted Lamar and rolled him that way.
• 38:21
  But here's here's my thing, though.
• 38:23
  Like, we talk about these quarterbacks.
• 38:25
  Right?
• 38:25
  Yep.
• 38:26
  And we talk about the offensive potential is, does Lamar Jackson become Lamar Jackson,
• 38:31
  though, if he gets drafted by the Minnesota Vikings?
• 38:33
  We know what he is now because he's, you know, he's a quantifiable, you know, product.
• 38:40
  Yeah.
• 38:40
  Like, we know what we get.
• 38:41
  Have the review
• 38:42
  history after the guys won an MVP.
• 38:45
  Yeah.
• 38:46
  You know?
• 38:46
  Well, I said that If he gets drafted by Minnesota, I think he doesn't I think he's a
• 38:51
  bust.
• 38:52
  Because no offense to Minnesota, but especially during that time We can't do this.
• 38:57
  I'm I the San Francisco trade that they offered was two fourths this year, a third next year,
• 39:02
  and two fourths next year to trade out of the 40 pick.
• 39:05
  We can't do that.
• 39:06
  We gotta we gotta pick somebody.
• 39:08
  Otherwise, the draft just becomes ridiculous.
• 39:10
  Good.
• 39:11
  Rejecting both of these, we're gonna go ahead and pick at 49.
• 39:17
  And while we got we got some It's available.
• 39:19
  And Jadarian prices on the list here.
• 39:22
  CJ Allen, linebacker out of Georgia.
• 39:25
  Chase Bisantis, interior o lineman out of a and m, Kayla Banks, a defensive lineman out of
• 39:32
  Florida.
• 39:32
  Jadarian Price was someone we've picked before.
• 39:35
  Take Jadarian Price there.
• 39:37
  One name on here notable because I know how much Thor of Thor Talks Purple and Purple
• 39:44
  Daily.
• 39:45
  Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker out of Texas Tech available, forty fourth on the big board here.
• 39:52
  What we've done and also I wanna say Cody's guy, D'Angelo Ponds, is available on here as
• 40:00
  well, although he is pretty far down the board at 50 yet with about eight players in front of
• 40:07
  him.
• 40:07
  That may be something that we could pull a pull a move for trading back up with some of that
• 40:13
  capital that we acquired.
• 40:16
  I am definitely on the Judarian price and stacking up your running back room given what's
• 40:22
  available on the board right now.
• 40:24
  So when we did pick in our last one, although we traded back with that 18 and actually picked
• 40:30
  this an extra pick up in that draft.
• 40:33
  But, Pods, what's your thoughts?
• 40:35
  I take the Jerry and Price there because it gives someone to split the reps with Aaron
• 40:39
  Jones, and it gives you that guy who can be your first and second down back and give Aaron
• 40:45
  Jones and him, more opportunities on third downs to keep these guys fresh.
• 40:51
  You guys definitely need depth in your running back room.
• 40:54
  And as you've already said
• 40:56
  a lot of
• 40:56
  them last year, but I think a lot of Vikings fans really liked what we saw out of Jordan
• 41:00
  Mason where he lacks as in the pass protection.
• 41:04
  Right?
• 41:04
  And you I don't think you can at this time in the NFL, NFL, especially with a guy that is in
• 41:09
  his now mid thirties with Aaron Jones, who you're there because you can count on him in
• 41:15
  every situation, mostly bringing him on, I would assume, as, like, a third down back to to
• 41:21
  pass block a little bit to chip and then release would become kind of his only usage.
• 41:27
  I I would think at that, and you leave yourself a two with one guy being able to possibly step
• 41:33
  in and carry the load for you in the future.
• 41:37
  So I like the DeJerian price.
• 41:38
  Just stick and pick here.
• 41:40
  Bea, how about you?
• 41:41
  Yeah.
• 41:41
  Let's go with it.
• 41:42
  I mean, we did it last time.
• 41:44
  You know, I'm I'm all about getting that guy later, Emmett Emmett Johnson, I think, from
• 41:50
  Nebraska that's from Minnesota later.
• 41:52
  So if he's there, you know, that's where I wanna go.
• 41:55
  But, yeah, let's go ahead and let's take him.
• 41:59
  We got him.
• 42:00
  Well and we do have that second second round pick at 63 as well.
• 42:05
  I paused that at sixty one, the Rams pick here, just to see if there's anybody on the board
• 42:12
  that we really, you know, wanna make a run for, maybe wanna trade up a a few picks to go get
• 42:17
  fearing that they may not be there.
• 42:20
  Christian Miller, defensive lineman out of Georgia.
• 42:23
  Eli Stowers, the tight end out of Vanderbilt.
• 42:27
  Anthony Hill Junior, a linebacker out of Texas.
• 42:30
  Any, you know, anyone on that short list there that are worth you feel like trading up for to
• 42:38
  keep, someone from drafting them ahead, or we just stick two picks back and see what happens?
• 42:45
  I'd say we stick two picks back.
• 42:47
  I think you stay.
• 42:49
  I mean, Anthony Hill's a really good player, but he's inconsistent.
• 42:54
  So I would just take your two picks
• 42:56
  Well and stay down guys yeah.
• 42:58
  Both of those guys stayed on the board over that time as well.
• 43:02
  So, best players available right now.
• 43:04
  We are at pick 63.
• 43:07
  This was part of the trade package, that we got, from New England for that eighteenth
• 43:15
  overall.
• 43:16
  So you got Eli Stowers at tight end, Anthony Hill at linebacker still, Keelan Rutledge,
• 43:22
  interior offensive lineman, Mike Washington, we just took a running back, though, Josiah
• 43:27
  Trotter, linebacker
• 43:29
  out
• 43:29
  of Missouri, and Derek Moore, your edge rusher, which are kind of the top people around in
• 43:35
  that.
• 43:36
  Keante Scott being someone who fills a need, I would assume.
• 43:39
  I know we've had his name on a couple of our previews as well.
• 43:43
  He's 64 on the big board, and I wanna say he's the one, two, three, four, five.
• 43:49
  He's the seventh best player available according at least to this board.
• 43:54
  So
• 43:54
  Well, let me ask you two a question.
• 43:57
  Yeah.
• 43:58
  Do you have faith in Brian Flores' amoeba like scheme with the defense where you feel like you
• 44:05
  could take Stowers there and add to the run block in the pass block?
• 44:10
  I I I I I like Flores.
• 44:13
  I like what he's done with everybody.
• 44:15
  I mean, Bubba, we've talked about it before that, you know, this this was a must hit for
• 44:21
  Minnesota to bring Flores back to have any kind of hope this year.
• 44:28
  So
• 44:29
  Well,
• 44:29
  I think I think pick whoever he wants, and he can, you know
• 44:33
  Well, and there's the thing is that we talked a lot about predraft.
• 44:36
  And in our other draft, we kinda did that.
• 44:38
  Right?
• 44:38
  We stuck and picked Atheneman.
• 44:40
  We took those those grade a players that, you know, to give that defense, some dogs, but he's
• 44:48
  able to get the best out of everyone, and you have a plethora of third and fourth round picks
• 44:52
  now because of the trade back that you have, I think, two or three, thirds and the fourth.
• 45:01
  So I'm not exact here.
• 45:03
  Let me skip ahead and r drive first.
• 45:04
  Would take Sowers.
• 45:07
  And we've talked a lot about tight end.
• 45:09
  I know you like Hock, but I think he's pretty well cooked.
• 45:12
  Good.
• 45:12
  You don't really have much behind him in the way of a a guy that can be good for the next
• 45:19
  whatever it is.
• 45:20
  Right?
• 45:20
  We have a really good blocking tight end that that we like a lot, but really nothing behind
• 45:25
  those two guys.
• 45:26
  And and Hockenson just is not the same player he was before the massive injury, and he's just
• 45:32
  aging.
• 45:32
  Right?
• 45:32
  That's why they restructured his contract.
• 45:34
  That's why he agreed to the restructuring knowing the writings on the wall, but wanting
• 45:39
  to stick around and make a run.
• 45:41
  So coming up for our picks, round three, we're at pick 82.
• 45:46
  Then at
• 45:47
  I take Sours at that time.
• 45:48
  Then at 97.
• 45:49
  So we have three third round picks within 10 picks of each other.
• 45:55
  So 80 what did I say?
• 45:56
  89, 96, or 95, and '97.
• 46:00
  So you could get three guys that are really 82.
• 46:04
  Sorry.
• 46:04
  82, 95, 97 in the third round, and then the couple of fourth round picks as well where we
• 46:11
  didn't have picks, prior to that trade.
• 46:13
  So I I think I'm with pods on this one.
• 46:16
  I I like drafting a a great looking, tight end in out here.
• 46:21
  Probably the second, I would assume, second tight end on the board behind your Kenyan Sadiq
• 46:27
  who dropped a little ways from his big board, anyway.
• 46:31
  And I think you get a little bit more NFL, talent, you know, NFL ready and more of what
• 46:38
  this team likes to do rather than a Sadiq with your Eli Stowers.
• 46:43
  So I'm with that pick.
• 46:44
  Go stick and pick here, B.
• 46:46
  You good with that?
• 46:47
  Yeah.
• 46:48
  Let's so we're taking who now?
• 46:50
  Eli Stowers, tight end out of Vanderbilt.
• 46:53
  Yeah.
• 46:53
  He's the number two on ESPN's board.
• 46:56
  So, yeah, I I would agree with that.
• 46:58
  I mean, we're getting a win second round?
• 47:00
  Second round.
• 47:01
  Essentially, what you've gotten by trading back by trading back, you've gotten the number two
• 47:06
  running back on the board and the number two tight end on the board, and you have three
• 47:11
  third round picks and two fourth round picks that could, honestly, on Brian Flores' defense,
• 47:18
  be very serviceable if second string borderline starters possibly depending on the So
• 47:25
  so on ESPN's board, yes, he's the second overall tied in.
• 47:30
  They have a thirty sixth ranked overall.
• 47:34
  So
• 47:35
  Right.
• 47:35
  And on this board with the draft database, it was 48 overall.
• 47:39
  They had them.
• 47:39
  So
• 47:40
  Yeah.
• 47:40
  So we're getting
• 47:41
  teams boards are falling either.
• 47:43
  I like That would be
• 47:44
  a steal.
• 47:44
  That's what I would think.
• 47:47
  Right?
• 47:47
  You got two really good players here.
• 47:49
  And and we took and we took price win, second round?
• 47:53
  At our forty ninth overall.
• 47:56
  And he was slated to go let's see here.
• 48:00
  He was slated to go fiftieth, so we got him in the ballpark.
• 48:05
  Right.
• 48:06
  So I paused it at pick 77, Tampa Bay on the clock.
• 48:12
  They're so it's 77, 82.
• 48:15
  They're five picks ahead of us, and just kinda wanted to review the board.
• 48:20
  I feel like we have capital that we could trade up Mhmm.
• 48:22
  Into this pick very easily if we wanted to.
• 48:25
  So just a quick review, what's available, who's still out there.
• 48:29
  The big board right now is it's falling.
• 48:31
  You got Mike Washington running back, not really a night need there.
• 48:34
  Josiah Trotter, linebacker out of Missouri.
• 48:37
  Still, Keonte Scott, your cornerback out of Miami, is available there.
• 48:43
  Hey, Pods.
• 48:43
  This one's for you.
• 48:44
  Carson Beck, the QB out of Miami, if you wanted to maybe grab somebody to have to develop out
• 48:49
  there.
• 48:50
  Dominique Orange, big citrus, I think, is what Thor's been calling this guy.
• 48:55
  He is the fifth best player available on here.
• 48:58
  So he could technically be available for you, but a big d n or a defensive lineman out of
• 49:03
  Iowa State there.
• 49:05
  Are we making a move with Keith Abney, you know, kind of being on that verge?
• 49:12
  What was that?
• 49:13
  Who was the defensive back?
• 49:15
  Defensive back was Keonte Scott, the cornerback out of Miami, The U.
• 49:21
  That would be the only one I would think about potentially moving to get.
• 49:24
  Carson Beck, I wouldn't even draft him with a fifth round pick.
• 49:28
  I just wanted to throw it out because you were talking about drafting a QB because you're
• 49:32
  hating on JJ McCarthy.
• 49:33
  I'll take JJ McCarthy over Carson Beck.
• 49:37
  Well, there you go.
• 49:39
  See, why would you wanna trade him for a third round pick?
• 49:43
  Because you could fill other needs on the team.
• 49:45
  I get it.
• 49:45
  I get it.
• 49:46
  Is Slaughter still available?
• 49:49
  What was that?
• 49:50
  Is the center Jake Slatter still available?
• 49:53
  I don't think we've even seen a run on centers yet.
• 49:57
  Because he's supposed to go nothing around 80.
• 49:59
  Yeah.
• 50:00
  Sam Hecht eighty seventh on this one, and for what I saw that he was your kind of top he was
• 50:09
  the top center on a lot of boards from what I saw.
• 50:11
  Connor Yeah.
• 50:12
  Slate Slater Slater and Hecht are the top two centers.
• 50:17
  I don't think the the first one is available yet.
• 50:21
  He may have gone, and I can rewind a little bit to see where he went.
• 50:31
  Yeah.
• 50:31
  Well, it's crazy the way these things fall because we've had some guy we drafted in, like,
• 50:36
  way, way different areas.
• 50:39
  So, I don't see his name on here.
• 50:41
  So
• 50:42
  I don't remember.
• 50:43
  Just for the exercise, let's see what it would take to, make a trade up to 77 to get our guy.
• 50:49
  Right?
• 50:50
  Think that's the point that you're you're getting here is that we want this guy.
• 50:56
  We wanna make sure that he's not going anywhere.
• 50:59
  At this point, I think a lot of people have who they want out there.
• 51:04
  So we're gonna see if we can trade the 97 overall with, I don't know.
• 51:11
  What do you think, Pods?
• 51:12
  A Would you need to trade a fourth to get up that five spots?
• 51:16
  A fifth is not a month enough.
• 51:18
  So fourth not enough.
• 51:20
  Fourth is not enough.
• 51:22
  Would you have to trade 82 and a fourth?
• 51:26
  Would that do it?
• 51:26
  Okay.
• 51:27
  So 82 and 1 of the fourths that we acquired from New England would be enough to move up.
• 51:33
  I'm gonna try to go as low as possible here.
• 51:35
  Even the lower one, what about a fifth?
• 51:38
  Fifth even would do it.
• 51:40
  Even a sixth would do it.
• 51:42
  A seventh isn't enough.
• 51:43
  So we could trade our sixth rounder and swap picks with Tampa Bay for to go up five spots
• 51:51
  and to get our guy because, at this point, you're looking at it because you
• 51:56
  you don't need do it.
• 51:57
  Picks current picks and the and the extra is a six round?
• 52:01
  Swapping swapping 82 for 77 and us giving them our six, that one ninety six.
• 52:09
  And then we still have ninety five and ninety seven as well.
• 52:12
  To me, kind of a no brainer.
• 52:14
  It probably Yeah.
• 52:15
  Take the corner.
• 52:15
  A little bit,
• 52:16
  Nope.
• 52:18
  We move up to the seventy seventh pick.
• 52:21
  We take Keontay Scott, and we call it good.
• 52:25
  That's a no brainer.
• 52:27
  Yeah.
• 52:28
  Because that's a hell of a development right there.
• 52:30
  And I think with Brian Flores, Scott, with what he showed, what he could do with the u, I think
• 52:35
  he's NFL ready within two or three years.
• 52:40
  Rejected all the other trade offers.
• 52:42
  Nothing that was even worth really noting in there.
• 52:46
  And we're gonna draft Keandre Scott.
• 52:48
  Phil's a big need, and I think you get a really good player there.
• 52:51
  So we're gonna let it run, just down to our other two third round picks.
• 52:56
  We didn't acquire all of that draft capital to get rid of it.
• 52:59
  But just for the exercise, we will oh, well, I didn't pause quite enough.
• 53:03
  I paused right before our pick, which doesn't really make a difference.
• 53:08
  But, yeah, I mean, not not a lot here.
• 53:10
  Sam Hecht is still available, though.
• 53:12
  We just have to get through Miami.
• 53:14
  So and they did not take him.
• 53:16
  I would I would I would say we take we take the number two center.
• 53:21
  Board a little bit as well.
• 53:23
  So we did have a couple of trade offers come in.
• 53:25
  Tampa Bay trying to get back, get some more third round action.
• 53:29
  They wanted a a they are trading a fourth or fifth.
• 53:32
  The sixth rounder that we just gave them in a future six.
• 53:36
  Denver with a fourth and then two picks in next year late round picks in next year's draft.
• 53:41
  The we're not trading into the bears.
• 53:43
  That's not happening.
• 53:46
  What do we have after this pick?
• 53:48
  Several picks.
• 53:50
  We ain't trading to the Indiana bears.
• 53:53
  Okay?
• 53:53
  Yeah.
• 53:55
  We'll see what I I don't think any of the offers are really there.
• 53:59
  I think we got a chance to take interior offensive linemen.
• 54:02
  The other ones are all wide receivers, and I just don't feel like you need to wait.
• 54:05
  I take Heck.
• 54:07
  Yeah.
• 54:07
  Take center.
• 54:08
  There.
• 54:09
  Sam Heck is there.
• 54:10
  He's a little bit down the way.
• 54:11
  Now here's the interesting thing.
• 54:13
  We are picking at 97 as well.
• 54:15
  Right?
• 54:16
  With Hecht being the 80 c's got one, two, three, four, five five players in front of him
• 54:24
  on the big board yet with only Seattle behind us in between these two picks.
• 54:31
  That that makes it a little bit interesting thinking Who's
• 54:34
  the best available player on the board?
• 54:36
  Best available is Skyler Bell, wide receiver out of Yukon, and then another Antonio
• 54:42
  Williams, Elijah Surratt, Davison, Igbinosin, cornerback out of Ohio State, and, Jayshawn
• 54:52
  Barham are the guys in front of Hecht.
• 54:55
  Bryce Lance is below him and some other
• 54:58
  some other linebackers in there?
• 54:59
  In here as well.
• 55:01
  There was the one linebacker, Jayshawn Barham, a linebacker out of Michigan, and then, some
• 55:07
  other linebackers farther down.
• 55:09
  I I it is interesting to maybe look at the offers, again and may possibly consider some
• 55:17
  big hauls here for that pick because you are drafting two picks later, and we've talked
• 55:22
  extensively Oh,
• 55:23
  we're drafting two picks later?
• 55:26
  I'll have to be there in two picks.
• 55:28
  Yeah.
• 55:28
  Right.
• 55:28
  Right.
• 55:29
  So I I that's what makes it kind of interesting, right, is you can stack up more.
• 55:32
  I'm not really interested in the future picks just because we don't get to play with them.
• 55:36
  You know, like, trading Indiana offered their their fourth rounder, a sixth rounder, next
• 55:43
  year's fifth.
• 55:44
  I know.
• 55:44
  I will.
• 55:44
  I have to watch Thunderbird.
• 55:48
  The Tampa Bay one is kind of interesting.
• 55:51
  I think you take a heck there, and then I think you look at what you have on And
• 55:57
  then possibly trade 97?
• 55:59
  And potentially trade 97.
• 56:01
  Get your guy first.
• 56:02
  I I like that, I like that mentality.
• 56:05
  Get your guy so you don't get killed here.
• 56:08
  Get your guy and then go from there.
• 56:11
  I would get our guy now and then probably trade that that pick into then trade your pick to
• 56:19
  Well, 97
• 56:20
  not as valuable to everyone, but but when we you did get get the an offer back from New
• 56:24
  England.
• 56:25
  They wanted to trade this year's fifth, next year's fifth,
• 56:29
  next
• 56:30
  year, and three six.
• 56:31
  And how the hell did they get three six round picks this year?
• 56:35
  New England, who's been a good trade partner for us.
• 56:37
  I think we just stick and pick here too.
• 56:39
  I'm not enticed by any of those.
• 56:40
  I wasn't enticed enough by the other ones as well when you can sit and probably get a really
• 56:46
  you know, a a serviceable player here still.
• 56:48
  So I yeah.
• 56:49
  Best available yet here at ninety seven, Antonio Williams, wide receiver out of Clemson.
• 56:55
  Elijah Zarot, still.
• 56:58
  Davidson, Egbinosin, cornerback.
• 57:00
  Jayshawn Barham, linebacker out of Michigan, Bryce Lance, the wide receiver out of North
• 57:05
  Dakota State.
• 57:06
  Obviously, a lot of talk around him.
• 57:08
  The suggestion that they're making is Bud Clark, safety out of TCU being 89 on the big
• 57:16
  board here and, obviously, being at a position of need for this team.
• 57:22
  Not really anyone else, notable in the, you know, I would say, 10, you know, BPA here.
• 57:31
  And what are the offers for the ninety seventh pick?
• 57:34
  There was just the one.
• 57:35
  It was a fifth and a bunch of a bunch of next year's pick.
• 57:39
  So it was Then
• 57:40
  I think it would take
• 57:42
  seventy one five and three six in next year's draft.
• 57:46
  I think if you wanna stick and pick then, you gotta go between Barham and the gahid from TCU.
• 57:54
  Well, then the talk becomes linebacker or safety.
• 57:56
  Safety fits the need.
• 57:58
  We haven't gone and got anyone.
• 58:01
  We we go we go with the need there.
• 58:02
  We go with safety.
• 58:04
  And I take the kid out of TCU.
• 58:07
  Yeah.
• 58:07
  We're gonna
• 58:09
  go ahead and grab him.
• 58:10
  And we still have a couple of fourth rounders that are coming up here too.
• 58:14
  Interested in pausing it at any point to eye a trade possibly.
• 58:18
  I'm gonna stop and pick 108.
• 58:19
  That's where Denver is.
• 58:20
  Okay.
• 58:21
  We don't select until, 01:25.
• 58:27
  Oh, shoot.
• 58:28
  Who's on the board?
• 58:30
  31 are our next picks.
• 58:34
  Denver on the clock at 01:08.
• 58:36
  Let's just take a look at best players valid.
• 58:38
  Jayshawn Barham's still there.
• 58:39
  Bryce Lance still there.
• 58:42
  So, obviously, a lot of these players have been getting passed over at this point, for
• 58:47
  what they're then.
• 58:48
  Because for the most part in this draft, you've already gotten everyone you wanted.
• 58:55
  I think you've gotten a lot of talent, you've got lot of value
• 58:58
  so far.
• 59:02
  Barham just went, at one, well, one fifteen.
• 59:07
  You're starting to get down into the draft.
• 59:08
  I don't know any of these players.
• 59:09
  I I I don't follow it close enough to to know.
• 59:12
  This is where you you're still trying to fill needs, you know, and if somebody, you know, if
• 59:17
  somebody drops, like, I mean, like, to me, if that Emmett Johnson's still there, I think we'd
• 59:22
  take him even though we've already drafted right into the next.
• 59:25
  Fifth round is where the Kansas City Chiefs drafted Jalen Watson.
• 59:29
  So
• 59:30
  Yeah.
• 59:30
  Well and I know we grabbed Sam Hecht too, but Jake Slaughter is still on the board here.
• 59:35
  He was one zero seven.
• 59:36
  Double dip.
• 59:38
  Emmett Johnson at one twelve yet.
• 59:40
  He's still on the board.
• 59:42
  You you have some players here around here, and we have You
• 59:45
  know why I say you double dip?
• 59:48
  I say you double dip because you can convert one of them to a tackle.
• 59:54
  So we take the number one and two center.
• 59:58
  Who Jaylen Farmer, interior lineman.
• 1:00:02
  Where does he play at?
• 1:00:02
  Is that a guard?
• 1:00:04
  It doesn't say.
• 1:00:05
  It just says IO line on here, which is kind of annoying.
• 1:00:08
  Hang on.
• 1:00:08
  Yeah.
• 1:00:09
  The the final one of those that I could put both.
• 1:00:14
  Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  I mean, I kinda like to double dip my game.
• 1:00:17
  You pick
• 1:00:18
  probably double dip.
• 1:00:19
  Let that pick go.
• 1:00:20
  We pick again in six picks at one thirty one.
• 1:00:26
  You could grab Jaylen Farmer who's a little bit higher on the big board at interior offensive
• 1:00:31
  line and let it ride and possibly grab a Jake Slaughter or an Emmett Johnson later in that
• 1:00:39
  too Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  And what happens.
• 1:00:41
  Yeah.
• 1:00:41
  I assume we take we take the guy that you're just talking about, and then we just see if
• 1:00:45
  Slaughter or Johnson's sitting there, then we take him.
• 1:00:49
  Well, I feel like you're gonna get one or the other in that in this thing.
• 1:00:54
  So I I don't know enough about Jaylen Farmer to know.
• 1:00:57
  We're deep in the fourth round at this point.
• 1:01:00
  We're it ride.
• 1:01:02
  Let's grab him.
• 1:01:04
  Let's see what happens.
• 1:01:08
  And we're picking again.
• 1:01:09
  I'm not trading it for next year's picks, although there have been several.
• 1:01:15
  Buffalo, calling, wanting to trade a fifth and a sixth for that single four, but that kinda
• 1:01:21
  defeats the purpose of what we're talking about.
• 1:01:23
  We'll leave it on the player.
• 1:01:23
  We'll see who's available here.
• 1:01:24
  Jake Slaughter, still available.
• 1:01:26
  Emmett Johnson, still available.
• 1:01:28
  So Look at
• 1:01:29
  those.
• 1:01:30
  I I think we have been talking extensively about offensive line help being necessary.
• 1:01:37
  We picked up these two fourth rounders where we did not have them.
• 1:01:42
  I I like grabbing slaughter here as well and, you know, kind of restocking the coffers on
• 1:01:48
  that offensive line so that it is not an issue.
• 1:01:52
  Well, it is a thing that's true here,
• 1:01:54
  but not an issue moving forward where you're not talking about drafting a center in the
• 1:01:58
  first round
• 1:01:59
  next And
• 1:01:59
  and the thing is too is we got both of the position or top two of the center position,
• 1:02:06
  which one of them should be able to play one of those guards right in Yeah.
• 1:02:10
  The Maybe you can't move them off the tackle, but you can play them at guard on either side.
• 1:02:16
  You can take slaughter, put them as the primary center, and then take the second best center,
• 1:02:23
  which was
• 1:02:24
  Fair.
• 1:02:24
  What was his name?
• 1:02:25
  Pack.
• 1:02:26
  Pack.
• 1:02:26
  And then you can move him to either interior left or interior right.
• 1:02:30
  Mhmm.
• 1:02:31
  Alright.
• 1:02:31
  I'll just let it ride out till our fifth round pick at $1.63.
• 1:02:36
  Now we're starting to get into the point where we're just kinda drafting on traits, and you're
• 1:02:42
  looking for some guys that can maybe, you know, turn into something possibly.
• 1:02:46
  Best player available is d d lineman out of Ole Miss, Xavien Harris.
• 1:02:52
  Vijay Payne, a safety out of Kansas State.
• 1:02:55
  Takario Davis, cornerback out of Washington, there.
• 1:02:59
  Keyshawn Elliott, a linebacker out of Arizona State, and Travis Burke, an offensive tackle
• 1:03:04
  out of Memphis.
• 1:03:06
  And notable here, I guess, is, Cole Payton, the quarterback out of North Dakota State, who's
• 1:03:13
  still available with that fifth round pick.
• 1:03:16
  I will I think we have two fifths, if I'm not mistaken.
• 1:03:19
  Maybe I don't.
• 1:03:19
  It's hard to remember now.
• 1:03:20
  It's a no.
• 1:03:21
  We just have the one pick.
• 1:03:22
  So our next pick isn't until, did we trade our sixth round?
• 1:03:28
  We did trade a sixth round pick.
• 1:03:29
  So this is pretty much our last pick until we get to the seventh when we have back to back
• 1:03:34
  picks at two thirty four and 02:35.
• 1:03:37
  So, I don't know.
• 1:03:40
  There was no off
• 1:03:41
  the bat table for this one.
• 1:03:44
  I think you take the kid out of Kansas State.
• 1:03:50
  The safety, VJ Payne Yeah.
• 1:03:53
  Since since we've kind of, you know, obviously, a need at that position yet.
• 1:03:58
  No interest.
• 1:03:59
  Xavion Harris, b can you get a profile on him just to see?
• 1:04:02
  I mean, if he's just a an animal of a man.
• 1:04:08
  Right?
• 1:04:08
  Let's see here.
• 1:04:09
  65 Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  The two of them,
• 1:04:11
  by the way.
• 1:04:12
  So
• 1:04:15
  NFL Yeah.
• 1:04:17
  Z x a v I a n, Harris.
• 1:04:20
  And what position?
• 1:04:24
  Defensive line.
• 1:04:26
  Defensive line.
• 1:04:27
  Okay.
• 1:04:27
  So
• 1:04:28
  Just because I think that's a sneaky position of need for this team that doesn't get talked
• 1:04:33
  about because there's so many other ones that are at premium positions that you definitely
• 1:04:40
  need help, that you're not necessarily here for need, but you got a a BPA kind of, you know,
• 1:04:46
  take to this.
• 1:04:48
  Let see Suggestions that are being made by by the draft simulator as well are the defensive
• 1:04:55
  linemen.
• 1:04:55
  So maybe you're getting a little more value out of here.
• 1:04:58
  We are picking at one sixty three.
• 1:05:00
  Xavion Harris on this board was one twenty four.
• 1:05:03
  So a lot of value there as far as their big group is concerned.
• 1:05:07
  Yeah.
• 1:05:07
  I'm looking here.
• 1:05:08
  I don't see let's see here.
• 1:05:13
  Here it is.
• 1:05:15
  I might not
• 1:05:15
  Pods likes the safety.
• 1:05:20
  Alright.
• 1:05:21
  Let's go back to do tackles.
• 1:05:26
  Yeah.
• 1:05:26
  I'm assuming he's a tackle and not an they they've been dividing this weird where it's
• 1:05:31
  edge, defensive tack, or defensive line in there.
• 1:05:36
  I'm not seeing them anywhere on either let me just see if they have them.
• 1:05:42
  I got them.
• 1:05:43
  Okay?
• 1:05:44
  Yeah.
• 1:05:44
  I just think
• 1:05:45
  it's a little hard.
• 1:05:45
  He is six seven, three hundred and twenty pounds.
• 1:05:49
  Plays defensive tackle.
• 1:05:51
  His twenty five season stats were 27 solo, three sacks, and one interception.
• 1:05:59
  Talking about a guy with some length, but a little light, I I feel like, at that height to
• 1:06:05
  to really be effective at the NFL.
• 1:06:08
  Not that he can't put on 10 to 15 pounds.
• 1:06:12
  You need him to put on 30 to not get pushed around by some of these offensive linemen out
• 1:06:17
  that probably plays a little high being such a tall
• 1:06:21
  I'd actually move him to edge.
• 1:06:24
  Well, on that, they the the Vikings play that weird defensive line too where it's more of a
• 1:06:32
  three four.
• 1:06:33
  Yeah.
• 1:06:34
  So it it it would be somebody that would be, I I think, in that, you know, one of those out,
• 1:06:41
  like, a five tech, I think, is is what it would be.
• 1:06:44
  So you're outside of the guard in between the guard and tackle in those spots with a lot of
• 1:06:51
  height there.
• 1:06:52
  It's kind of an interesting and to me, it's a little bit of a project in there.
• 1:06:57
  Vijay Payne, you you got a anything on him?
• 1:07:00
  Pods or b, either way, as far as the safety's concerned?
• 1:07:05
  Payne.
• 1:07:09
  P a y n e.
• 1:07:11
  Yep.
• 1:07:12
  Yep.
• 1:07:12
  Out of out of Kansas State, eleventh position, one twenty fourth overall.
• 1:07:19
  Let's see here.
• 1:07:20
  Let's click on him.
• 1:07:23
  He had 40 solo tackles, three forced fumbles, one interception, and three pass deflections.
• 1:07:28
  Yep.
• 1:07:30
  And he's for
• 1:07:31
  more of a strong safety, I I I would assume in that with
• 1:07:34
  the forty four two zero eight.
• 1:07:36
  Yep.
• 1:07:36
  I like that size a lot.
• 1:07:38
  I've just drafted him.
• 1:07:39
  I take BJ Payne.
• 1:07:41
  So I just I just drafted him.
• 1:07:42
  Bring on the Payne.
• 1:07:43
  Yeah.
• 1:07:45
  Well,
• 1:07:46
  that someone who can can lay the hammer down at strong safety.
• 1:07:50
  We don't have that on this team.
• 1:07:52
  That could be a sneaky guy that comes in and ends up starting or being a, you know, a
• 1:07:57
  rotational player in a Brian Flores defense.
• 1:08:01
  I like that side.
• 1:08:02
  Would you say, like, six three two zero eight?
• 1:08:04
  Yeah.
• 1:08:04
  Brian Flores would love
• 1:08:05
  that guy.
• 1:08:06
  He would love
• 1:08:07
  I know we're talking I know we're talking football right now, but I just thought this
• 1:08:11
  would be funny.
• 1:08:12
  The Detroit Tigers just forfeited to the Brewers 12 to four today.
• 1:08:18
  Forfeited?
• 1:08:19
  Like, forfeited?
• 1:08:21
  Can do that?
• 1:08:23
  No way.
• 1:08:24
  Here.
• 1:08:24
  Let me show you.
• 1:08:26
  That's wild.
• 1:08:28
  Hold on.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah.
• 1:08:33
  Sorry.
• 1:08:33
  It's a long time in between picks, guys.
• 1:08:35
  It's just running.
• 1:08:37
  Ow.
• 1:08:37
  Cat, get the fuck off of
• 1:08:39
  me.
• 1:08:39
  Wow.
• 1:08:42
  Intra now was it, like, a rain delay or something, and they just said, hey.
• 1:08:45
  That's it's enough?
• 1:08:48
  That's gonna be a sign.
• 1:08:49
  I got the whole game going all night innings.
• 1:08:53
  So let's see what happened.
• 1:08:56
  I love it.
• 1:08:57
  Go ahead.
• 1:08:57
  You figure that out.
• 1:08:58
  We got two
• 1:08:59
  picks to make back to back, and then we're done with our mock draft here.
• 1:09:02
  So pick two thirty four and two thirty five.
• 1:09:05
  We got some line right receiver, linebacker, cornerback, tight end, and then another running
• 1:09:12
  back that are kind of available in this run here.
• 1:09:15
  I Kendrick Law.
• 1:09:18
  I also like Red Murdoch.
• 1:09:20
  I just like the name out of Buffalo.
• 1:09:21
  Linebacker out of Buffalo.
• 1:09:25
  Now now we've taken this to seven eight nine, and we're all very curious as to what the hell
• 1:09:30
  happened out there.
• 1:09:32
  Well, because they gotta play in all nine innings, so they scored three in the ninth.
• 1:09:38
  So but that would be
• 1:09:47
  Somebody hit the wrong button.
• 1:09:50
  You know what?
• 1:09:50
  I'm just gonna go ahead and and keep filling up that defense.
• 1:09:54
  Red Murrock, linebacker out of Buffalo, if that pick and then Jalen Husky, a cornerback out of
• 1:10:01
  Maryland, we're gonna go ahead and draft him too just to round out our draft and call it a
• 1:10:05
  day.
• 1:10:06
  Oh, wait.
• 1:10:07
  We got one more seventh round pick.
• 1:10:08
  How do we end up
• 1:10:09
  with all these seventh rounders?
• 1:10:11
  So many.
• 1:10:16
  And you know what?
• 1:10:17
  Just because Cyrus Allen out of Cincinnati, welcome to the Vikings.
• 1:10:22
  Just so we can say we drafted a wide receiver in this.
• 1:10:25
  Will you stop, Kat?
• 1:10:27
  Well, and that and that's the thing too is Okay.
• 1:10:30
  Never mind.
• 1:10:30
  They finished the game.
• 1:10:31
  That's a little misleading.
• 1:10:33
  Okay.
• 1:10:33
  Yeah.
• 1:10:33
  I know.
• 1:10:33
  Just mislabeled it.
• 1:10:35
  But they had Jake Rogers coming in there.
• 1:10:38
  It was a blowout.
• 1:10:38
  You know both before.
• 1:10:39
  Matthew Bradford.
• 1:10:40
  I don't know why you're even asking me those questions like that.
• 1:10:43
  Right next to Bubba.
• 1:10:44
  State of mind.
• 1:10:45
  We actually actually in in this this mock mock draft, draft, we we traded out of the
• 1:10:48
  eighteenth pick, picked up a couple of fourth rounders, an extra second, and an extra second
• 1:10:56
  rounder in next year's draft from New England to trade out of the first round entirely, and
• 1:11:01
  we're about to go through and and check out the rest of
• 1:11:04
  I hope we get those graded because I wanna see what we did.
• 1:11:07
  We'll we'll see about the grade.
• 1:11:10
  I'm not sure if they do that.
• 1:11:12
  It probably wants to make me do that.
• 1:11:14
  Honestly, it's grading it by player.
• 1:11:19
  Okay.
• 1:11:19
  And there are a lot of a's on this card.
• 1:11:23
  Jadarian Price was an a.
• 1:11:25
  Eli Stowers was an a.
• 1:11:26
  Kiante Scott at 77 and a plus.
• 1:11:29
  Sam Hecht at 95 and a plus.
• 1:11:31
  Bud Clark at 97 and a plus.
• 1:11:34
  Jaylen Farmer at one twenty five, a b plus.
• 1:11:37
  Jake Slaughter, a b plus at one thirty one.
• 1:11:40
  BJ Payne, a b plus at one sixty three.
• 1:11:43
  Red Murdoch in a at two thirty four.
• 1:11:47
  Jalen Husky in an a plus at Cyrus Allen for our last pick of the draft.
• 1:11:51
  So I gotta imagine that all ends up, you know, grading out into a b plus, a minus, or maybe
• 1:12:00
  just a straight a at that.
• 1:12:01
  All the b's we had were b plus, and, I mean, we're just
• 1:12:05
  My first mock draft with you guys, and we're in the high a.
• 1:12:08
  There we go.
• 1:12:09
  Well, that's the thing too.
• 1:12:11
  When we did last week, we got, what, b minus.
• 1:12:13
  I mean, we're happy with that.
• 1:12:15
  But, I mean, this is the kind of draft that the Vikings need this year.
• 1:12:18
  They need to hit those guys every pitch.
• 1:12:21
  We got
• 1:12:22
  a lot of talent in here.
• 1:12:23
  There there's a lot guys that are on this list that we talked about that we got, that were
• 1:12:28
  passed over by other teams and drafted them at a really good value in in comparison to their
• 1:12:32
  big board.
• 1:12:34
  I would be thrilled if I looked at I know people are probably losing their minds watching
• 1:12:38
  this and watching us take wider or running back tight end with the first two picks in our
• 1:12:43
  draft.
• 1:12:44
  Granted, they were in the second round and not that first round.
• 1:12:47
  But that eighteenth overall pick is just you don't know that the guy that you are getting
• 1:12:52
  there is a guy.
• 1:12:54
  Right?
• 1:12:55
  Like,
• 1:12:55
  Why turn and and also, like, why turn away from four guys for one uncertainty?
• 1:13:02
  And possible and and probably another starter next year with your second rounder that you got
• 1:13:06
  in that deal as well.
• 1:13:07
  So you look at trading that one pick who who is a a Dylan Theinerman probably is who we would
• 1:13:14
  have selected just because that's kind of, you know, a position of need, the best player at
• 1:13:19
  that position, and kind of valued in that range.
• 1:13:23
  And you ended up getting Eli Stowers.
• 1:13:27
  You traded and packaged some of that value to get up and to grab Kante Scott ahead of where
• 1:13:32
  you were.
• 1:13:33
  You you ended up getting that Bud Clark, your your safety with that inside of that.
• 1:13:40
  So you ended up getting a lot of the the things that you were going to get and then some.
• 1:13:45
  And I think that's hard to argue with.
• 1:13:46
  But in in this league and in this, you know
• 1:13:51
  Nobody likes an unsexy pick.
• 1:13:54
  That's what it is.
• 1:13:55
  They look at memes and they think, oh, it's gonna fix all of our problems.
• 1:14:01
  Right.
• 1:14:01
  And I just don't believe it's going to be I I think you can get you can lean on your you can
• 1:14:07
  lean on your defensive coordinator to really be a a difference maker for you that a lot of
• 1:14:14
  other, other teams can't say that.
• 1:14:16
  Right?
• 1:14:17
  So Helps the
• 1:14:18
  offense in the early rounds, sure up the defense in your third through your seventh
• 1:14:23
  round.
• 1:14:23
  Yep.
• 1:14:25
  That ended up going really, really well, and we got a lot of talent onto the roster in that.
• 1:14:30
  Now do I think that's what they're going to do?
• 1:14:33
  Hell no.
• 1:14:33
  No.
• 1:14:34
  They are they are using their eighteenth pick.
• 1:14:36
  They're not trading back because somebody's probably not pack even even calling to ask
• 1:14:41
  them, you know, hey.
• 1:14:43
  Will you take this slew of the, you know, a second second next year, a third, and two
• 1:14:49
  fourths for that?
• 1:14:50
  I even know if that call's being made.
• 1:14:52
  I mean, the the calls are being made.
• 1:14:54
  I mean, maybe not that many, but, I mean, there's gonna be calls for somebody for the
• 1:14:59
  eighteenth.
• 1:15:00
  Most likely, it'll be you know, if the if if it was true, I would have said the pit or Patriots
• 1:15:07
  would have thrown in swapping the first, and then we probably would have gained maybe a
• 1:15:13
  second and maybe a fourth.
• 1:15:15
  I don't think we would have got everything, but, you know, a swap of the first and then a
• 1:15:19
  second and a fourth, I think, you know, maybe you're listening, but they're making calls.
• 1:15:24
  I mean, you're getting calls like that all the time.
• 1:15:27
  You
• 1:15:27
  know?
• 1:15:27
  I think this is the year too.
• 1:15:29
  Like, as I'm not a Minnesota Vikings guy.
• 1:15:32
  I'm more of a Kansas City cheese guy, obviously.
• 1:15:34
  My mom or my stepmom loves the packers.
• 1:15:38
  Oh.
• 1:15:39
  And I'm I don't really care for the packers that much.
• 1:15:41
  I've always kinda gravitated towards the Vikings a little more because the for one,
• 1:15:45
  purple is one of my favorite colors.
• 1:15:47
  And Dante Culpepper was one of my favorite quarterbacks of all time.
• 1:15:51
  Him, Tarkatan.
• 1:15:54
  Used to have him and Randy Moss.
• 1:15:56
  That connection was electric.
• 1:15:58
  So I look at the Vikings, though, and I have to say it.
• 1:16:01
  It's like, watch football, and I watch the highlights.
• 1:16:04
  But when I watch the Vikings outside of the defense, there is no identity on the offensive
• 1:16:10
  line.
• 1:16:11
  There's no identity on besides throw it to Addison, throw it to Jefferson, hope for the
• 1:16:16
  best.
• 1:16:16
  About we talk a lot about it.
• 1:16:18
  There's no identity with your head coach who is also your play caller.
• 1:16:23
  And or if he does have an identity, it is deep crosses over the middle.
• 1:16:28
  That's what he's gonna do.
• 1:16:29
  Long He's
• 1:16:30
  not a head coach.
• 1:16:31
  He's a freaking coordinator.
• 1:16:33
  I I think opposite.
• 1:16:35
  I think opposite of that.
• 1:16:36
  I think he can be a very effective head coach, CEO, run the whole team guy.
• 1:16:42
  I I think people respect him.
• 1:16:44
  I think his failings are as the offensive coordinator.
• 1:16:48
  Right?
• 1:16:48
  I think he can be a very I think he can be a better head coach if he had an offensive
• 1:16:53
  coordinator to
• 1:16:53
  collect Who's on the market right now that you could bring in as an OC?
• 1:16:56
  Well, they have technically, they have an offensive coordinator.
• 1:16:58
  Right?
• 1:16:59
  Like, they have someone
• 1:17:00
  who's not a puppet.
• 1:17:01
  They're not playing
• 1:17:02
  right now.
• 1:17:02
  Thing is our OC is Essentially, his mouthpiece.
• 1:17:09
  I don't know that he even gets up and speaks to be perfectly.
• 1:17:12
  Exactly.
• 1:17:13
  So what I'm saying is
• 1:17:14
  Wes Phillips was the offensive coordinator last year, and I don't know if Wes Yeah.
• 1:17:19
  Philip is still the coordinator.
• 1:17:20
  Yeah.
• 1:17:21
  Yeah.
• 1:17:21
  Because, like, you look at you look at Chicago and the job they did with Ben Johnson, you need
• 1:17:27
  to go find yourself it may not be to the level of Ben Johnson, but you need to find someone
• 1:17:32
  who's of similar thinking for the offense for Ben Johnson.
• 1:17:35
  Identity.
• 1:17:36
  We are going to run it until you can't stop it.
• 1:17:38
  Look at that game they played against Philly.
• 1:17:40
  Right?
• 1:17:40
  And I said it after we came back after that game that KOC would have thrown up all over
• 1:17:46
  himself if he would have called a game like that.
• 1:17:48
  248 yards of rushing.
• 1:17:50
  Get the out of here.
• 1:17:52
  Yeah.
• 1:17:52
  And that's the problem with KOCs.
• 1:17:54
  He doesn't like to run the ball.
• 1:17:55
  But, again, run sets up the pass, pass sets up the run.
• 1:17:59
  You
• 1:18:00
  know?
• 1:18:00
  And, you know, it's kinda funny for a guy who likes to run crossers that he doesn't like to
• 1:18:04
  run draws and counters because draws and counters set up those crossers.
• 1:18:10
  Yep.
• 1:18:12
  So, like, you've got Jordan Addison.
• 1:18:14
  You've got Jay Jeddas, and you've got let's just say, hypothetically, you pick up Eli
• 1:18:20
  Stowers.
• 1:18:22
  Mhmm.
• 1:18:22
  It's not gonna do any good if there's no run game to open up these guys in the pass game
• 1:18:27
  because you'll get through your first 15 plays, and then they're like, okay.
• 1:18:31
  Double Jefferson.
• 1:18:32
  Yep.
• 1:18:37
  Bubba, we can't hear you.
• 1:18:39
  Bubba, we can't hear you.
• 1:18:45
  But
• 1:18:47
  Nope.
• 1:18:49
  Nope.
• 1:18:50
  But, no,
• 1:18:51
  you're I mean, you're exactly right there.
• 1:18:52
  I mean, they need to find a common ground between the pass to run.
• 1:18:58
  And, again, you know, I I I probably sound like a broken record.
• 1:19:01
  Everybody's probably just rolling their eyes when I
• 1:19:03
  see to build a foundation.
• 1:19:04
  They need to build that offensive line foundation.
• 1:19:07
  I mean, John Madden always said it.
• 1:19:09
  You win the game on the offensive, defensive line.
• 1:19:12
  If you can win the line of scrimmage, you're going to win the game.
• 1:19:15
  You know?
• 1:19:16
  Right.
• 1:19:16
  And that's what the Vikings need to do.
• 1:19:18
  Because what good is it if your defense is giving you all these position you know, all
• 1:19:22
  these extra possessions and you're not capitalizing on them.
• 1:19:25
  Yep.
• 1:19:25
  And that's why I've I've been battling with a lot of people.
• 1:19:28
  They're like, oh, we can take this guy.
• 1:19:29
  We can take this guy.
• 1:19:31
  We can have this quarterback.
• 1:19:32
  It's just like but it doesn't matter if we can't protect them.
• 1:19:36
  Matter if that quarterback's getting destroyed behind the line.
• 1:19:39
  Exactly.
• 1:19:39
  Exactly.
• 1:19:40
  Played that all last season.
• 1:19:41
  Can you guys hear me now?
• 1:19:42
  We can hear you, but we can you.
• 1:19:44
  My cat was back there screwing around.
• 1:19:46
  She stepped on a grid and knocked everything out.
• 1:19:49
  Well, look.
• 1:19:50
  Yeah.
• 1:19:50
  No.
• 1:19:50
  We we went through this, Pods, at length last year talking about the lack of a commitment to
• 1:19:56
  a running game, you know, because it helps your offensive line out that we're struggling.
• 1:20:01
  I think we had But some
• 1:20:02
  it also helps your defense.
• 1:20:04
  Number yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Because it gives them time to rest.
• 1:20:08
  Yep.
• 1:20:09
  Yeah.
• 1:20:10
  And I think the games that we lost last year, you could see that, that the defense just
• 1:20:14
  didn't have any gas left in the tank.
• 1:20:16
  You're you're going
• 1:20:16
  out have the defense on there for thirty two minutes out of the, you know, six.
• 1:20:21
  It it was atrocious.
• 1:20:23
  And I think a lot more of it came down to play calling than the the quarterback that everyone
• 1:20:28
  wanted to put it on and to just say that the quarterback sucked.
• 1:20:31
  His head coach, play caller, did him no favors last year.
• 1:20:34
  No.
• 1:20:34
  And then the five games they won at the end of the year, they started leaning on their run
• 1:20:38
  game and and producing, and they were winning ball games.
• 1:20:41
  Can I
• 1:20:42
  ask you a question, Bubba?
• 1:20:43
  Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  Why would you keep Kevin O'Connell at this point as a play caller?
• 1:20:50
  Well, because you can't you would have to fire him.
• 1:20:53
  Right?
• 1:20:53
  And that's the problem is that you you're pretty happy with him as the CEO of the team.
• 1:20:59
  I think they like him.
• 1:21:00
  I think they like
• 1:21:01
  him.
• 1:21:01
  Scenario where they can't He's not, like, promote him to president of football?
• 1:21:08
  No.
• 1:21:09
  No.
• 1:21:09
  No.
• 1:21:10
  He wants to be a head coach.
• 1:21:11
  He wants to be a
• 1:21:12
  He wants to a coach.
• 1:21:14
  The thing is That's odds.
• 1:21:16
  His seat is hot as can be to start the season this year.
• 1:21:19
  If Kyler doesn't if they go two and four to start the season with Kyler Murray at the helm
• 1:21:24
  and you made you know, granted it wasn't like a big it wasn't a lot of money.
• 1:21:30
  What was their record last year?
• 1:21:31
  For him.
• 1:21:31
  It was a they were nine and eight last year.
• 1:21:34
  And they were one more game and been in the playoffs.
• 1:21:36
  That was Sam Arnold the year before.
• 1:21:38
  Right?
• 1:21:38
  Yeah.
• 1:21:38
  Sam Arnold the year before '18 or '17.
• 1:21:42
  I think if he goes this is what I think.
• 1:21:45
  I think if he goes nine and eight again or below that or even ten and seven, you gotta
• 1:21:50
  fire him.
• 1:21:51
  Well and we talked about that a lot too that at that point, I think Brian Flores becomes the
• 1:21:57
  head coach, and you hire a play caller offensive coordinator.
• 1:22:00
  Because do you want another Mike Tomlin where all you do is just go above 500 and barely
• 1:22:04
  sneak into the playoffs?
• 1:22:07
  Like, great.
• 1:22:08
  Mike Tomlin had 21 winning seasons in a row, and you know what he had?
• 1:22:13
  One Super Bowl and a bunch of mediocrity.
• 1:22:15
  I think this this team and this fan base would be really happy with that one Super Bowl win.
• 1:22:21
  But you're not getting that.
• 1:22:23
  You're just getting a bunch of mediocrity.
• 1:22:26
  Oh.
• 1:22:26
  And there's nothing worse than the NFL.
• 1:22:28
  I you know what?
• 1:22:29
  You take it back.
• 1:22:30
  Everyone wanted to put it on Sam Darnold's shoulders in the playoffs against the you know,
• 1:22:36
  what
• 1:22:36
  was That's that's the whole thing is
• 1:22:38
  years ago.
• 1:22:39
  That's the one thing with Viking fans is it's always on the quarterback.
• 1:22:43
  It's always on the coach.
• 1:22:44
  It's never a whole team loss.
• 1:22:46
  Yeah.
• 1:22:46
  I think Sam Darnold proved that with his Seattle run that it was more than likely play
• 1:22:52
  calling, and it was not the quarterback play.
• 1:22:54
  Because you gave you handed him over to oh god.
• 1:22:58
  What the Seattle head coach's name?
• 1:23:00
  He's young.
• 1:23:03
  I God.
• 1:23:05
  I know what you think.
• 1:23:06
  I I Yeah.
• 1:23:07
  Anyway Yeah.
• 1:23:09
  The way that he ran
• 1:23:11
  was was they had a great running game
• 1:23:14
  Yep.
• 1:23:15
  And a really good defense.
• 1:23:16
  And I think that two years ago, you had it.
• 1:23:19
  But KOC, and I've said this a lot on the show, he wants to be the quarterback so bad that
• 1:23:28
  that's the way he well, this is what I would do.
• 1:23:30
  And this is I would oh, I would have made that throw.
• 1:23:32
  I would be able you didn't.
• 1:23:34
  You didn't make it in the league, dude.
• 1:23:36
  So call plays that your players that are out there can see and that they can make and and
• 1:23:44
  call it to the strengths of an offense that has things going on.
• 1:23:49
  Don't just go back there and and go, you know, pass, pass, pass.
• 1:23:53
  Well, we're gonna throw 40 yard bombs all game, and we're gonna connect on one of them.
• 1:23:57
  I'm gonna say something that might piss off some Vikings fans.
• 1:24:01
  That's what we're here for.
• 1:24:03
  I think Kevin O'Connell is just a poor man's Mike Kyle Shanahan.
• 1:24:08
  Who?
• 1:24:10
  That's what I think, personally.
• 1:24:12
  Well, and I'd honestly, I would probably put Shanahan, like, a a full head.
• 1:24:16
  Maybe not head and shoulder.
• 1:24:17
  He's gone to two Super Bowls in how many NFC championships?
• 1:24:20
  Full head over Kevin O'Connell for sure.
• 1:24:23
  And I it's easy to like it's easy to like the guy.
• 1:24:27
  Right?
• 1:24:27
  Like, I understand it.
• 1:24:28
  He's a little smug for for my liking, but I think guys like to play for him.
• 1:24:35
  And that is and I think the wolves like him.
• 1:24:37
  Right?
• 1:24:38
  The owners of the team like him, and they're kind of notoriously a little bit aloof with the
• 1:24:43
  team.
• 1:24:43
  They're not in the building.
• 1:24:44
  They're not in the city.
• 1:24:46
  Right?
• 1:24:46
  They live in New York.
• 1:24:48
  They they they come and visit once in a while.
• 1:24:50
  So they're very hands off owners, and and I think that they like him.
• 1:24:55
  But I do believe that his seat is extremely hot this year starting out.
• 1:25:00
  They've never have they never fired a coach midseason, b?
• 1:25:08
  I'm trying to think.
• 1:25:09
  Often don't I don't think lot of the
• 1:25:11
  talk last year because people were calling for KOC's job then.
• 1:25:16
  I mean, I know they're fired the last couple of them, like, right before week 17 or right after
• 1:25:23
  the last game of the year.
• 1:25:25
  They probably have.
• 1:25:26
  I mean but not to my knowledge because I remember Burns, and then we went into Dennis
• 1:25:32
  Green, and I think we had Oh, Danny.
• 1:25:36
  Yeah.
• 1:25:36
  So Oh, Danny.
• 1:25:37
  Those were good days.
• 1:25:39
  Yeah.
• 1:25:39
  Well, well, they were good.
• 1:25:41
  That's good.
• 1:25:43
  Brad Childress was the last one who was fired midseason back in 2010.
• 1:25:50
  Okay.
• 1:25:52
  Brad
• 1:25:52
  Childress was fired back in November 2010 midseason.
• 1:25:56
  So that must have that must have been when did dunk not Dungy, who took over.
• 1:26:02
  I don't think Tyce took over that time.
• 1:26:04
  I think it was Zimmer after that for a while.
• 1:26:06
  Might have been Zimmer.
• 1:26:07
  Yeah.
• 1:26:08
  Yeah.
• 1:26:09
  Well, either way, I think KOC's seat hot.
• 1:26:13
  I I think I I agree with you on a on a lot I
• 1:26:16
  think it's simmering.
• 1:26:17
  I don't think it's, like, steaming hot.
• 1:26:18
  No.
• 1:26:19
  That thing's gotta be hot.
• 1:26:20
  You gotta win.
• 1:26:21
  It it it well, but the thing is, I think it's steaming right now on simmer, but if we start
• 1:26:29
  off all in one, all in two, that that fire's gonna be consistently heated up.
• 1:26:35
  And if we go all in four or five, then, yeah, we're talking.
• 1:26:39
  K.
• 1:26:39
  Let's just I think the
• 1:26:40
  only way his seat doesn't get hot is if he goes to the owners and he goes to the GM, and he
• 1:26:47
  explains to them, hey.
• 1:26:48
  Look.
• 1:26:49
  This season pretty much is gonna be a wash, but we're gonna use this season to build the
• 1:26:54
  foundation on our lines and then really hit it next season in the draft room.
• 1:27:00
  Well, mean, another thing too is if that scenario plays out that we just did where we
• 1:27:04
  trade the eighteenth pick, that buys that That buys a time.
• 1:27:08
  Buys
• 1:27:09
  a buy.
• 1:27:09
  Will that actually happen is the question?
• 1:27:12
  Probably not.
• 1:27:13
  So Right.
• 1:27:14
  You know, I think at best, if he gets fired midseason, which I doubt, he'd have to be,
• 1:27:22
  like, o and eight to get fired midseason, I personally think.
• 1:27:26
  But for him to get fired at the end of the season, I think anything less than eleven and
• 1:27:30
  five gets him fired.
• 1:27:32
  Well, they just gave
• 1:27:33
  they just gave Brian Flores an extension over the year.
• 1:27:36
  Well, I
• 1:27:36
  can't a lot about
• 1:27:37
  that, that you have to perform this year.
• 1:27:39
  You have to make the playoffs.
• 1:27:41
  You have to win a playoff game or you're you're out the door.
• 1:27:45
  That that's the key right there.
• 1:27:46
  You gotta get into the playoffs.
• 1:27:48
  You gotta win one game.
• 1:27:51
  Probably, convincingly, you can't just sneak into the next round.
• 1:27:54
  You probably gotta win it convincingly to keep your job to get in the playoffs.
• 1:28:00
  The way that everything's kinda shaping up, though, at least from what I've looked outside
• 1:28:04
  looking in, is it's kinda looking like if Flores, you know, puts together another great
• 1:28:11
  defense and McConnell and O'Connell continues to struggle, then they're just gonna switch,
• 1:28:18
  and he's gonna be the head coach, and they're just gonna move on from O'Connell.
• 1:28:22
  Whether that's the I think that's the move.
• 1:28:24
  That this is Brian Flores' team moving on.
• 1:28:29
  I don't know if it comes with an extension past that to extend him, you know, one or two more
• 1:28:35
  years beyond the three d year deal that he's on.
• 1:28:37
  But but again too, remember, we're also sitting without the GM right now.
• 1:28:41
  So that could play a factor too.
• 1:28:45
  And that's what I'm saying.
• 1:28:47
  But I think O'Connell's ego would let him go and be a GM, let Flores take the HC, and then
• 1:28:52
  them jointly find an OC together.
• 1:28:55
  I just don't think that O'Connell's ego would allow him to essentially take a promotion but
• 1:29:02
  go away from what he wants to do.
• 1:29:04
  Right.
• 1:29:04
  Yeah.
• 1:29:05
  And I I don't think that's happening, and I don't know that he has the skills to be a
• 1:29:08
  Because, I mean, look at the Celtics right now with Brad Stevens.
• 1:29:12
  He went from being one of the most successful head coaches, and then he went to arguably
• 1:29:17
  being a better GM, and he put his ego aside.
• 1:29:19
  He really wanted to be a head coach.
• 1:29:21
  All that stuff he did in Butler in college, and now he's put together one of the best rosters
• 1:29:25
  in the NBA.
• 1:29:26
  And O'Connell has an opportunity to do the same thing in the NFL, but I really don't think his
• 1:29:31
  ego will allow him to.
• 1:29:32
  No.
• 1:29:33
  Like, he he won't allow his ego to get out of the way and run the damn ball.
• 1:29:37
  So he definitely ain't doing that.
• 1:29:40
  Fun stuff, fellas.
• 1:29:41
  This was a cool episode.
• 1:29:42
  I'm just ready to get the draft over with, get a little bit of lull in the season.
• 1:29:48
  Looking forward to next week talking about all the new players on this team finally having it
• 1:29:53
  over.
• 1:29:54
  I'm much more interested that.
• 1:29:55
  I hate this projection, and not I'm not gonna go study a thousand college players when we're
• 1:30:01
  gonna pick four of them that that are of note.
• 1:30:04
  Right?
• 1:30:05
  Like, come on.
• 1:30:07
  I just don't have that kind of time in my day.
• 1:30:10
  Bless you people that do out there in the world.
• 1:30:13
  I commend you.
• 1:30:14
  I don't even have ESPN, so I have no idea what's going on.
• 1:30:17
  But I will know who the Vikings pick.
• 1:30:19
  We're gonna have a great time talking about it next week.
• 1:30:22
  Make sure you join us Tuesdays, 8PM for Vikings United.
• 1:30:27
  B and pods, any parting shots?
• 1:30:30
  No.
• 1:30:30
  Just keep checking us out.
• 1:30:33
  The draft is here.
• 1:30:35
  Forty eight hours away.
• 1:30:36
  Can't wait to see what trades happen, who goes where, what the grades are gonna be.
• 1:30:42
  And then you can check us all out on Sunday, 07/08 nine, to talk some baseball.
• 1:30:47
  Yep.
• 1:30:48
  And on that note, you can come check out the scratch project and the cut line this Saturday
• 1:30:52
  at, 8AM Mhmm.
• 1:30:56
  Pacific time and ten central.
• 1:30:59
  You got it, Pods.
• 1:31:00
  Looking forward to it, man.
• 1:31:01
  Where are we at this week?
• 1:31:04
  Right now, I have let me look real quick, and I'll tell you.
• 1:31:09
  Would love Give me, like, a minute.
• 1:31:11
  Winning down in Mexico City in one of Liv's last tournaments possibly.
• 1:31:16
  Shout out to Matt Fitzpatrick for holding off the shark that his name's Scotty Juggler.
• 1:31:20
  Pretty cool watching it.
• 1:31:21
  Best four iron out of a bunker I've ever seen in my life.
• 1:31:28
  That was just absolutely incredible to watch.
• 1:31:32
  Tom, you've never hit one like that?
• 1:31:35
  The best that I hit, and it was actually yesterday or not yesterday, the day before, I
• 1:31:40
  hit a 60 degree wedge from about 60 yards away to six inches of the hole.
• 1:31:47
  Nice.
• 1:31:47
  And I tap in par.
• 1:31:50
  So can't claim to be doing Matt's Fitzpatrick and Scottie Shuffler kind of things, though,
• 1:31:56
  unfortunately.
• 1:31:57
  So let's see.
• 1:31:58
  Where are we at this week?
• 1:32:01
  We are at
• 1:32:07
  I
• 1:32:11
  think the the World Golf Championships are going on at some point this this year too.
• 1:32:16
  Just a nice little thing there.
• 1:32:20
  PGA.
• 1:32:22
  Where are we at, guys?
• 1:32:25
  RBC Heritage.
• 1:32:26
  I know the US Open's coming up really soon.
• 1:32:32
  Fly the w.
• 1:32:33
  Cubs win.
• 1:32:34
  There you go.
• 1:32:35
  Man.
• 1:32:36
  Here.
• 1:32:36
  Let me just look up my laptop.
• 1:32:37
  That's easier.
• 1:32:39
  Well and it's all good.
• 1:32:40
  We'll talk about it Saturday.
• 1:32:41
  Well, of course, keep following
• 1:32:43
  the What was the score?
• 1:32:44
  Network.
• 1:32:45
  I just turned it off.
• 1:32:46
  I think
• 1:32:47
  it was seven four.
• 1:32:49
  They pulled it out.
• 1:32:50
  So great time tonight.
• 1:32:53
  Fun experiment to see what could happen if you trade trade back for a haul of picks at
• 1:32:59
  eighteen.
• 1:33:00
  Zurich Classic at TPC Louisiana.
• 1:33:04
  Okay.
• 1:33:04
  Nice.
• 1:33:05
  Down on the bayou.
• 1:33:07
  Yep.
• 1:33:07
  Getting it done.
• 1:33:08
  Well, that's gonna be fun.
• 1:33:09
  Can't wait to talk about that on Saturday.
• 1:33:11
  Bee, I will see you again on Sunday.
• 1:33:14
  I like this.
• 1:33:15
  I like what we're building here at the network, getting to cover a lot of lot of great stuff,
• 1:33:20
  and I can't wait to get out and and see everybody in person.
• 1:33:23
  Got some great events planning, getting into the works here for the season.
• 1:33:28
  Obviously, really trying to get out to the Viking World Order tailgate to do early season
• 1:33:37
  live pregame.
• 1:33:40
  I say early season because when they're in December, I'm not going there and doing it
• 1:33:44
  live.
• 1:33:45
  From the same gate, although the moss the moss pit is there to to do the show in if need be.
• 1:33:52
  The the comings and goings out of there, though, it's not particularly warmer at all.
• 1:33:57
  So great time, fellas.
• 1:33:59
  Appreciate your time today, and looking forward to, well, seeing you guys this weekend.
• 1:34:06
  Thanks for having me.
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