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UK Column News — 1st June 2026 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the first of June twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six, just of one o'clock. Welcome to UK Column News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to have Mike Robinson
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Speaker 1: with me in the studio.
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Speaker 2: Good to be here.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely well. We just say for those who were a
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Speaker 1: little bit disappointed by the change in the weather, of course,
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Speaker 1: for the gardeners, it's really wonderful. A lot of very
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Speaker 1: happy plants today. Temperatures have cooled, so we've got out
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Speaker 1: of the disastrous situation that the BBC has been reporting
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Speaker 1: that most of the population we're going to die as
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Speaker 1: a result of sunshine. That hasn't happened. So there's a
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Speaker 1: lot of good things to report today. I think we're
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Speaker 1: going to kick off on the subjects of really propaganda
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Speaker 1: and this fits nicely with the theme of our soon
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Speaker 1: to be published UK Column addition, which is going to
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Speaker 1: be looking essentially at the information war, misinformation, disinformation and propaganda.
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Speaker 1: But the UK government and master at putting out this
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Speaker 1: type of material, and of course their agenda has absolutely
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Speaker 1: soiled our armed forces. So we're going to kick off
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Speaker 1: today with a report from a couple of days ago
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Speaker 1: about essentially a NATO exercise British Army. But we'll say
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Speaker 1: essentially NATO command and control exercise that was carried out
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Speaker 1: underneath London in the underground. And of course the immediate
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Speaker 1: overtone of that is it takes us back to war,
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Speaker 1: the Second World War and people seeking sanctuary in the underground.
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Speaker 1: So let's have a look at the UK government's modern
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Speaker 1: version of that.
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Speaker 3: I would just take Russia at facebally, what scares you
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Speaker 3: most about the Russian Army is the fact that their
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Speaker 3: battle hardened, their amble face. Do we need to be
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Speaker 3: ready to deal with that threatening? Absolutely?
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Speaker 4: What would you say if I told you the British
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Speaker 4: Army was exercising in central London underground, just feet below
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Speaker 4: the commuters and tourists. I've come to this NATO exercise
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Speaker 4: to see what the future commanding war looks like.
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Speaker 3: From Charing Cross Station.
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Speaker 4: This is a simulation of war with Russia. It's run
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Speaker 4: by the Allied Rapid Reaction Hall or ARC, one of
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Speaker 4: NATO's two emergency response forces. In a major reorganization in
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Speaker 4: April this year, virtually the entire British Army is now
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Speaker 4: commanded by the ARC. So while he's not the actual
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Speaker 4: head of the British Army, General Mike Elvis in effect
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Speaker 4: owns all the heavy metals. Why are we in an
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Speaker 4: underground tube station?
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Speaker 3: Why we're here underground in London is really demonstrating a
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Speaker 3: departure from hitherto core headquarters you would have been used
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Speaker 3: to going to think season seas of tents, arrays of
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Speaker 3: maps and map tables into in keeping with what we've
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Speaker 3: seen in the war in Ukraine, is to survive if
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Speaker 3: you either need to not be there, to move or
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Speaker 3: to be protected. And we're moving now to a digital
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Speaker 3: headquarters increasingly with decisions provided by artission intelligence that allows
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Speaker 3: us to operate faster and be more deadly at range.
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Speaker 4: We are notionally well, where are we in the central
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Speaker 4: eastern Europe? We're somewhere under a ballistic missile threat. If
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Speaker 4: you've got the connectivity, secure communications back to your headquarters,
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Speaker 4: do you need to come forward? Why can't you do
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Speaker 4: all this from a really nice, ballistically secure place back
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Speaker 4: in Glocester.
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't be back in Glocester, not least because there's
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Speaker 3: a load of signs of the points out. Headquarters are
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Speaker 3: in bigger read writing as you get there like it
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Speaker 3: does many of our other headquarters. So you'd want it
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Speaker 3: to be closer to the battlefield, but you don't want
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Speaker 3: to have it up close. It's not willing to sing.
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Speaker 3: And a horse looking through his telescope at the action
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Speaker 3: unfolding before him. What we're showing here is we've learned
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Speaker 3: that against you know, a threat from ballistic missiles, you
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Speaker 3: have to be subterryeon. You have to disperse when you move,
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Speaker 3: you do in a very deliberate way, and you do
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Speaker 3: in a way that is hidden in the electromental spectrum.
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Speaker 3: And again you'll want the headquarters to.
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Speaker 1: Be well, Mike, you'll see that clip raw and there
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Speaker 1: is so much to talk about in it. But of
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Speaker 1: course the first interesting thing is that the telegraph has
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Speaker 1: a unique report there. Presumably the UK colin would have
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Speaker 1: got the opportunity to go down and talk to the
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Speaker 1: Lieutenant general in the first place, so a lot of
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Speaker 1: questions to be asked about that and the setting up
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Speaker 1: of this, but just remarkable statements from this man. So
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Speaker 1: he's scared of the Russians, and he's scared apparently because
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Speaker 1: they're battle hardened. He doesn't bother to mention the fact
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Speaker 1: they're still operating proper military with a proper recruiting training structure,
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Speaker 1: nor the fact that the Russian Army is fully equipped
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Speaker 1: on a war footing, whereas at the moment, the Army
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Speaker 1: under the leadership as such men as a lieutenant general,
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Speaker 1: is simply unable to get even armored vehicles complete and
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Speaker 1: on the battlefield. And when it make these comments, there's
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Speaker 1: absolutely no disrespect to the serving men and women in
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Speaker 1: the armed forces. This is about reporting the real facts
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Speaker 1: about what's happening with the army. So he then goes
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Speaker 1: on Mike and I'm afraid I start laughing because apparently
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Speaker 1: it's new. It's new news that the army needs to
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Speaker 1: actually make sure that its headquarter, its headquarters is protected
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Speaker 1: from enemy strikes, you know, as if this is something new. No,
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Speaker 1: I think you'll find that in the Second World War
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Speaker 1: a lot of military a lot of military infrastructure was
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Speaker 1: actually spread so that the Germans couldn't attack that infrastructure.
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Speaker 1: But it's narrated as though this is something special to today.
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Speaker 1: And then we've got the fact that we've learned from
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Speaker 1: the Ukraine War. Well, of course, what the lieutenant general
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Speaker 1: has learned is the Russians are fighting a real war
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Speaker 1: on the battlefield, and he is now scrambling to catch up.
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Speaker 1: I don't know whether you readender think into his comments.
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Speaker 1: Might I just find the whole thing so utterly childish,
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Speaker 1: and as we're about to see in clip two, I'll
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Speaker 1: let you come in. It's very dangerous what these people
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Speaker 1: are doing. Well, I mean, I've got two things there.
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Speaker 1: The first is what is the role the telegraph is
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Speaker 1: playing here? You opened that by saying that this is
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Speaker 1: government propaganda, and of course the role that the telegraph
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Speaker 1: is playing here is to give that government propaganda a platform.
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Speaker 1: He owns all the heavy metal, well what heavy metal exactly?
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Speaker 5: Not?
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Speaker 2: Left a sort of rustling. But the main thing that
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Speaker 2: had me in stitches was he's talking about being able
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Speaker 2: to run a military operation at a distance. So, in
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Speaker 2: other words, the enemy is a distance away, but Glosster
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Speaker 2: is too far away because you've got to be closer
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Speaker 2: to the battlefield because class are relative to London, is
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, the thing is irrational from.
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Speaker 1: Starting to finish in the military would be described as
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Speaker 1: utter waffle. And what's coming out of his mouth does
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Speaker 1: not make sense. But let's get into part two because
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Speaker 1: it gets worse. We've edited some material out, but let's
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Speaker 1: look at the second clip.
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Speaker 4: Now, a number of different people, military and civilian politicians
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Speaker 4: have all put a time frame on the potential war
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Speaker 4: with Russia. I mean, do you take such a potentially
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Speaker 4: gloomy view that war is inevitable? And what kind of
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Speaker 4: time frame do you think we need to be ready by?
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Speaker 4: What do you think we're ready today?
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Speaker 3: Well, we're ready to receive a legal order from our
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Speaker 3: you know, government and political masters to go and deal
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Speaker 3: with a problem. Are we ready to deal with a
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Speaker 3: reconstituted Russian army that's come back from the front line. No,
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Speaker 3: But nor are they ready to start the next bound
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Speaker 3: of their conquest further west. I would just take the
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Speaker 3: adversary in this UNBOI that charmin Russia at face valley.
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Speaker 3: You know, Vladimir Putin has always coveted keep he said
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Speaker 3: as much, he invaded. He said the same about other places.
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Speaker 3: We have to be worst case planners in the military,
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Speaker 3: and certainly my friends in frontier nations, if I was
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Speaker 3: to use that term. But you know, Sweden, Finland, Estonia,
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Speaker 3: you know they're really clear eyed about what it means
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Speaker 3: to them. So do I think Russia will be ready
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Speaker 3: immediately on the cessation of hostilities, which I hope happens
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Speaker 3: soon in Ukraine to carry on. No, do I think
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Speaker 3: they will. I think they said they will. And do
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Speaker 3: we need to be ready to deal with that threat
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Speaker 3: then absolutely so. I couldn't put a precise time on
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Speaker 3: it because I think there will be a race to
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Speaker 3: reorientate when the war in Ukraine ends. It's just a
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Speaker 3: race we can ill afford to lose.
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Speaker 4: I mean, Putin's made overt threats to warsaw Berlin, London.
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Speaker 4: Do you think people here in the UK civilians feel
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Speaker 4: that threat? Do you think they feel as close to it?
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Speaker 4: I mean here we are under underneath central London, but
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Speaker 4: I think people would be amazed if they saw a
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Speaker 4: load of soldiers kind of about in uniform. Do you
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Speaker 4: think society here is resilient enough and understands the threat
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Speaker 4: such that they can take the action that we might
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Speaker 4: ask of society.
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Speaker 3: It is unbelievable that, you know, last night I think
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Speaker 3: we saw one of, if not the largest air raid
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Speaker 3: for want of a better term, against Kiev. You know, hundreds,
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Speaker 3: I think over a thousand Iranian designed drones, tens of
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Speaker 3: ballistic missiles and that's two hours and a bitter way
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Speaker 3: via a locals carrier from Standstead or Luton. Is that
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Speaker 3: in the psyche of every man and woman in London
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Speaker 3: today if we're in above ground? Absolutely not, you know?
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Speaker 3: Is that a concern without being shrill as a military man, Yes,
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Speaker 3: it is.
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Speaker 1: Well, it goes on, and of course the wonderful statement
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Speaker 1: there that when the Russians stopped, or the war in
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Speaker 1: Ukraine stops, Russia will be there with the most battle
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Speaker 1: hardened military in the world. That is a fact for
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Speaker 1: which the UK can do nothing. It hasn't got the
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Speaker 1: man power, it hasn't got the equipment, it hasn't got
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Speaker 1: the wherewithal. But he steps back from that by saying, well,
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Speaker 1: the Russians are probably not going to do anything else.
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Speaker 1: A loss for words really on the statement. But the
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Speaker 1: last bit is, of course, let's make the public as
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Speaker 1: frightened as possible in the UK to believe that they
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Speaker 1: are going to be attacked with the Russians. And this
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Speaker 1: is exactly the same policy that was followed during COVID.
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Speaker 1: Make the population frightened so that they will do as
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Speaker 1: the government says. So I think this man is not
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Speaker 1: credible in my eyes to be doing the job he's doing.
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Speaker 1: But of course if he cow tells to the political leaders,
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Speaker 1: which he describes, well, who knows what's coming?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he made a comment that Putin has made
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Speaker 2: overt threats to London, Berlin, Paris and so on. Is
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Speaker 2: that what Putting has done or has Putin said? If
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Speaker 2: the West continues to pump in the weapons, in the
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Speaker 2: weapons and actually take part a greater part in the
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Speaker 2: Ukraine War than Russia will retaliate. There's very big difference
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Speaker 2: between retaliation and taking over at action, which is what
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Speaker 2: this guy's attempting to persuade us. That is on the cards.
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Speaker 2: And just very briefly, the other thing was Iranian designed drones.
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Speaker 2: Of course, couldn't get couldn't let class got to get that.
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Speaker 2: You make sure we understand it's Iran that's a threat
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Speaker 2: here as well, and because we've got to have regime
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Speaker 2: change there too. So incredible.
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Speaker 1: Well, there's only one thing the lieutenant general is going
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Speaker 1: to be thinking about. He's going to be thinking about
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Speaker 1: the day he becomes that will be more important in
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Speaker 1: his mind than doing his job. And I predict that
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Speaker 1: this man is not going to sacrifice, sacrifice himself for
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Speaker 1: the army. He will continue to do whatever is quote
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Speaker 1: political masters unquote tell him to do. That's my prediction.
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Speaker 2: Well let's move on then to August. So let's bring
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Speaker 2: on the little propaganda pieces the British government was pushing
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Speaker 2: out this more. You can see it on screen. So
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Speaker 2: War Secretary John Healey was in at the US Embassy
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Speaker 2: in Singapore on Saturday to meet his warmonger counterparts from
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Speaker 2: the United States and Australia for an August Defense Minister's meeting. Now,
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Speaker 2: for those that are unaware, August is a war partnership
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Speaker 2: between the UK, Australia and the United States, Pillar one
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Speaker 2: of which is all about giving Australia and nuclear submarine capability.
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Speaker 2: Not just to be clear about that, this is not
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Speaker 2: about nuclear weapons, at least not at the moment. This
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Speaker 2: is about nuclear pot submarines, and Brian will have more
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Speaker 2: to say about that in a moment. But on Saturday
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Speaker 2: Heally was crowing about undersea drones. Now these come under
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Speaker 2: Pillar two of the agreement, which pulls these are their words,
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Speaker 2: so don't shoot me, which pulls the talents of each
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Speaker 2: nation's defense sector to develop advanced military capabilities to support warfare.
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Speaker 2: Well all that it isn't theirs, so we're just slightly
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Speaker 2: editing what they said. But it's going to support the
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Speaker 2: warfare around the world. So let's just have a listen
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Speaker 2: to what he had to say.
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Speaker 6: This will rapidly give our forces the very most advanced
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Speaker 6: battlefield technologies as together we produce a range of cutting
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Speaker 6: edge sensors and weapons systems for undersea drones. This will
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Speaker 6: give us the ability to detect, to deter, and to
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Speaker 6: deal with threats, including to our underworter cables and pipelines
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Speaker 6: on which so much of our daily life depends. This
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Speaker 6: is backed by the very best of the defense industry
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Speaker 6: and innovations in both all three nations, and I'm backing
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Speaker 6: it now with more than one hundred and fifty pounds
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Speaker 6: of British money from the government. It will form part
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Speaker 6: in the UK of our new hybrid Navy. It will
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Speaker 6: allow us to detect, to fight, and to win in
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Speaker 6: the undersea battle. Make no mist this is a big
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Speaker 6: step forward. It's a breakthrough that has not been achieved
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Speaker 6: in the AUCUST partnership before now and for US, AUCUS
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Speaker 6: means new advanced technology. It means the world's most advanced submarines,
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Speaker 6: and it means new jobs back at home. And what
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Speaker 6: we do together as three nations strengthens deterrence in the
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Speaker 6: Inn Pacific, it strengthens deterrence in the You're Atlantic and
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Speaker 6: in the High North. Orcus is delivering that peace through
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Speaker 6: strength that you talked about today and that is set
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Speaker 6: out in your National Defense Strategy. It's at the heart
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Speaker 6: of the philosophy that all three nations bring together to
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Speaker 6: our military and to our military mission. And I look
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Speaker 6: forward to building the momentum still further on Orcus. Pete
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Speaker 6: with you and Richard with you together in the months ahead.
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Speaker 2: So alongside Hide there was well you'll have seen Pete.
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Speaker 2: That's US Secretary of War Pete Hexath and Australian Deputy
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister Richard Marles. Apparently, this new project will see
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Speaker 2: August partners step on the accelerator for Pillar two of
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Speaker 2: the program to develop, produce and deploy cutting edge technologies
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Speaker 2: carried by uncrewed order underwater vessels. This work will support,
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Speaker 2: they said, the development of payloads such as censors and
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Speaker 2: weapons systems that can be deployed across all three nations
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Speaker 2: UV fleets, increasing collective strength in the terrens across the
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Speaker 2: Indo Pacific and euro Atlantic. And of course it's great
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Speaker 2: because as you heard there, it's going to provide opportunities
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Speaker 2: for UK industry in furthering work on underwater capabilities, supporting
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Speaker 2: good jobs and growth across the nation. Brian, you'll have
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Speaker 2: noted that he Lee was talking about a hybrid navy,
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Speaker 2: which they described as a more flexible modern force. It
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Speaker 2: blends crude and uncrued platforms. With your thoughts on that.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what to say, because, as we're about
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Speaker 1: to find out, the raw navy has been destroyed some
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Speaker 1: really good material hearing about that. But the key thing
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Speaker 1: is you're not going to have any crude systems because
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Speaker 1: they can't recruit people to actually go on board the ships.
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Speaker 1: But the ships don't exist anyway, So let's bring that
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Speaker 1: into focus. So what's going on here, essentially is the
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Speaker 1: Americans cannot cope with the Chinese threat and in particular
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Speaker 1: the rise of the Chinese navy and the significant rise
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Speaker 1: in the power of the Chinese submarine fleet, and therefore
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Speaker 1: the plan is to reinforce Australia to get Australia into
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Speaker 1: nuclear submarine So that something can be done about it.
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Speaker 1: So this is the UK Defense Journal. Australia now to
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Speaker 1: get in service Virginia class submarine, So that's an American
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Speaker 1: class of submarine, about ten thousand tons. But I'm going
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Speaker 1: to ask a couple of questions. Will these boats be
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Speaker 1: joint manned? And the reason I asked that is because
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Speaker 1: the idea that you can suddenly start operating nuclear submarines
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Speaker 1: is laughable. It takes years to build up crews to
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Speaker 1: the level where they can move from conventional type submarines
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Speaker 1: into nuclear boats, and then they've got to get the
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Speaker 1: operational experience. So there's a lot of things which the
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Speaker 1: public are not being told here, but is one of
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Speaker 1: the agenda plans. This is my question that you're going
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Speaker 1: to have joint manning. So the boats are going to
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Speaker 1: go to sea and they're going to have Americans or
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Speaker 1: Brits and Australians on board. Essentially, we don't know who's
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Speaker 1: going to be in control of that boat. We'll just
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Speaker 1: bring in a little bit more here because I'm also
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Speaker 1: going to say, how can the UK support Australia when
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Speaker 1: the UK's own submarine fleet is trashed? And I deliberately
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Speaker 1: used that very harsh word, because this is the reality.
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Speaker 1: If we are supposed to have four more so called bombers.
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Speaker 1: These are the ballistic missile submarines at sea, well one
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Speaker 1: at sea at all the times, but four of those
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Speaker 1: bomb nuclear submarines in the raw Navy alongside them. We're
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Speaker 1: supposed to have six attack submarines, but over the last
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Speaker 1: few years, one or possibly two of those attack submarines
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Speaker 1: have been at sea. And yet we are now to
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Speaker 1: train the Australians how to run a nuclear submarine fleet.
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Speaker 1: You could not make this up, like you simply couldn't
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Speaker 1: make it up. Now, I'm going to turn to Mark Felton,
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Speaker 1: a historian who does tremendous videos on YouTube, because recently
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Speaker 1: he released a fantastic analysis of just how bad the
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Speaker 1: Rawal Navy is. This is a little clip and we'll
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Speaker 1: watch it, and I'm going to encourage people to go
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Speaker 1: and find that clip see the UK column New Show
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Speaker 1: Notes in order to see the excellent analysis he's done
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Speaker 1: into the shameful state of Britain's navy.
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Speaker 2: But let's have the clip.
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Speaker 7: I went to the cinema the other week and before
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Speaker 7: the film started, was, as usual, bombarded with a series
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Speaker 7: of mindless adverts, but one particular advert caught my attention.
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Speaker 7: It was shown not once, not twice, but three times
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Speaker 7: in the space of about twenty minutes a Royal Navy
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Speaker 7: recruiting ad.
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Speaker 8: I used to hate going to Earth, now I love it.
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Speaker 8: Goodbye to two fourth verse, Hello to.
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Speaker 9: Two four patrol Vessel.
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Speaker 7: It in fact reveals the terrible recruiting crisis that is
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Speaker 7: crippling the Navy in twenty twenty six and forcing it
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Speaker 7: into what experts are calling a doom loop or death cycle.
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Speaker 7: As I will demonstrate, remember my criticisms are not directed
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Speaker 7: against those men and women serving in the Royal Navy,
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Speaker 7: but against those who created this situation, that is, politicians
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Speaker 7: and civil servants. I can only assume the intention of
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Speaker 7: successive British governments is to actually abolish the Royal Navy,
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Speaker 7: for it can only be a deliberate policy that has
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Speaker 7: created the terrible state of affairs we find today. So
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Speaker 7: these are some of the major policy decisions taken by
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Speaker 7: successive labor and conservative governments regarding the Royal Navy over
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Speaker 7: the past thirty years. It can be argued that the
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Speaker 7: position the Royal Navy currently is in in twenty twenty
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Speaker 7: six is a result directly of these policies and decisions.
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Speaker 1: Well, Mark Felton says it all. It's a result to
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Speaker 1: the policies across all of the government. So this is
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Speaker 1: not a single party issue. This is a cabal issue
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Speaker 1: across the major parties which has gone on over years
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Speaker 1: to get rid of the fleet and leave us in
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Speaker 1: this position at the moment where we don't have the ships,
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Speaker 1: all the submarines who operate, and we do not have
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Speaker 1: the crews to man them an accident. I do not believe.
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Speaker 1: So I believe that this is carefully orchestrated policy to
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Speaker 1: destroy another part of the national identity of this country.
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Speaker 1: And just to finish on the Aucust thing. The plan
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Speaker 1: is that the Americans are going to give three of
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Speaker 1: their Virginia class submarines to the Australians. We'll see whether
21:42
Speaker 1: that actually happens. And apparently then the UK is going
21:46
Speaker 1: to be working with the Australians to build a new
21:49
Speaker 1: class of nuclear submarines specifically for this Aucust role. And
21:55
Speaker 1: as we can see from that clip and previous reports
21:59
Speaker 1: from myself from Charles Mullett on military matters, the state
22:03
Speaker 1: of the Rawal Navy, and in particular the submarine fleet
22:07
Speaker 1: at the moment is disastrous. So how are we going
22:10
Speaker 1: to train the Australians. And is it actually the case
22:13
Speaker 1: that as our national forces are destroyed, we cover up
22:18
Speaker 1: that whole by continuing to bleat about the power of
22:22
Speaker 1: AI And these new remotely controlled or autonomous weapons under
22:30
Speaker 1: undersea weapons are on the surface. So it seems to
22:33
Speaker 1: me that what's happening here is a huge lie perpetuated
22:37
Speaker 1: by the Ministry at events in the United Kingdom, and
22:40
Speaker 1: the agenda is the destruction of our national forces. And
22:44
Speaker 1: now we've got another three nation partnership apparently to counter
22:49
Speaker 1: the Chinese. I don't think it's going to be successful there.
22:52
Speaker 2: And not as he did say, we're not that he
22:55
Speaker 2: was not criticizing anybody that's actually serving in the Royal
22:58
Speaker 2: Navy as you did. But I think maybe we made
23:01
Speaker 2: put a rag on that where maybe the criticism is justified.
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Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, because I certainly saw, over many years of
23:10
Speaker 1: service during the Raw Navy, the fact that senior officers
23:14
Speaker 1: simply would not stand up to the madness of politicians.
23:18
Speaker 1: All they were interested in was to become a ser
23:21
Speaker 1: that was to be knighted that was the key thing
23:24
Speaker 1: they waited for. Plus retiring on a pension in high
23:29
Speaker 1: society and the lack of courage to take on political
23:34
Speaker 1: matters I think has been utterly disgraceful and I don't
23:37
Speaker 1: think there's going to be any change by any of
23:39
Speaker 1: the senior serving officers at the moment. Okay, well, let's
23:44
Speaker 1: leave leave that auca subject there, but before we go,
23:49
Speaker 1: we can't leave the politicians for an easy life. And
23:55
Speaker 1: I just chose a couple of statements by Nicholas Sturgeon,
23:59
Speaker 1: who has been commented on the loss of the funds
24:04
Speaker 1: from the Scottish Nationalist Party. So let's have a look
24:07
Speaker 1: at this composite clip. She's first of all, talking in
24:09
Speaker 1: the early days of the investigation where she didn't have
24:13
Speaker 1: a lot to say, and in fact a police interview
24:16
Speaker 1: was a no comment interview, but she was helping the
24:19
Speaker 1: police of course. And then we'll see in the second
24:22
Speaker 1: part that she's talking about her position now that her
24:27
Speaker 1: husband is actually in the limelight over the embezzlement of
24:33
Speaker 1: funds from the party itself. So this is the quality
24:37
Speaker 1: of our British politicians.
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Speaker 10: There is obviously nothing I can see about the ongoing investigation.
24:45
Speaker 9: As much as that.
24:46
Speaker 10: Are things I might want to see, are not able
24:48
Speaker 10: to do so other than to see that as has
24:52
Speaker 10: been the case, that will contend to be full cooperation
24:56
Speaker 10: for my own sake. But you know, for the sake
24:58
Speaker 10: of people out there, a lot of women who end
25:01
Speaker 10: up finding themselves blamed for the actions of the men
25:05
Speaker 10: in their lives. I'm not going to contribute to that
25:08
Speaker 10: kind of sense that I am responsible for somebody else's crimes.
25:11
Speaker 10: I will take responsibility for the things I do, the
25:13
Speaker 10: decisions I make. I'm sitting here with you right now
25:17
Speaker 10: answering questions because I believe strongly in that accountability. But
25:20
Speaker 10: I am not responsible for the crimes that my former
25:23
Speaker 10: husband committed, and I'm not going to apologize for somebody
25:26
Speaker 10: else's crimes.
25:27
Speaker 11: But do you think you bear now responsibility for one
25:31
Speaker 11: of the biggest political scandals that took place on your
25:35
Speaker 11: watch as leader of that party. That's some different thing
25:39
Speaker 11: to saying you're responsible for his crimes.
25:41
Speaker 12: No, but it's not because he perpetrated a crime on
25:44
Speaker 12: the SNP by definition that included me as the party leader.
25:49
Speaker 1: He misled, he deceived.
25:51
Speaker 12: He's serving and will be serving a sentence for a
25:53
Speaker 12: crime he committed. I'm out here feeling as if I'm
25:58
Speaker 12: serving a sentence for a crime did not commit.
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Speaker 1: Well, there we are. She did not do it. She
26:05
Speaker 1: feels she's serving a sentence. Her husbands to blame. She
26:08
Speaker 1: had no idea what was happening. And when people came
26:11
Speaker 1: forward from within the party to say we really need
26:14
Speaker 1: to get a grip of the accounts, apparently she wasn't
26:18
Speaker 1: interested at that time, so we would say slope shoulders.
26:21
Speaker 1: The blame just slips away from her. Very close to
26:25
Speaker 1: tears there, Very close to tears. Yeah, I think we're
26:27
Speaker 1: close to tears about the state of politics at the
26:30
Speaker 1: moment in the UK. Now we must move on somethink
26:34
Speaker 1: particularly serious for the UK Column, and that is that
26:37
Speaker 1: over the weekend we had to put out a rebuttal
26:41
Speaker 1: to various lies, untrue smears that have been made against
26:46
Speaker 1: the UK Column and people working in the UK Column.
26:49
Speaker 1: And I'm referring to an interview that was carried out
26:53
Speaker 1: with Debbie Evans and Sandy Adams. We put out on Saturday,
26:58
Speaker 1: a very comprehensive of report countering those claims. And interesting
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Speaker 1: that over many years we've been attacked by many people,
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Speaker 1: and our normal response to that has been to simply
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Speaker 1: keep quiet while the storm dies down. But this was
27:16
Speaker 1: so egregious and so unpleasant we felt there was the
27:19
Speaker 1: need to print a rebuttal, and I am very pleased
27:24
Speaker 1: to say that the response was, well, it was a
27:27
Speaker 1: massive response from our membership to say, thank you very
27:31
Speaker 1: much for putting out that rebuttal, but also thank you
27:34
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27:37
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I don't know what you'd like to
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Speaker 1: just add to that.
27:41
Speaker 2: That sums it up fairly well. I mean, one of
27:44
Speaker 2: the questions that we had Brian was about the interviewer
27:48
Speaker 2: interviewer himself, because you know, frankly, as we said in
27:52
Speaker 2: the rebuttal itself, or rather actually the apologizing that was
27:58
Speaker 2: in a comment between me and him, I wouldn't have
28:02
Speaker 2: put that interview out as it was because none of
28:05
Speaker 2: the claims being made in it were challenged in any way.
28:08
Speaker 2: But anyway, a question was asked about his background, and
28:13
Speaker 2: this was the tweet that came back. So what mister Ginsburg,
28:19
Speaker 2: Michael Ginsburg is saying is I lived there for twenty
28:22
Speaker 2: plus years. That's Israel I did my mandatory service in
28:26
Speaker 2: the Israeli Defense Forces in Air Defense Command and speak
28:29
Speaker 2: fluent Hebrew. I did not serve in Unit only two hundred,
28:32
Speaker 2: do not have any connections to the Israel government or intelligence,
28:36
Speaker 2: and no longer have any family there. So that was
28:40
Speaker 2: what he said when he was asked about his background.
28:44
Speaker 1: But clearly, in setting up the interview and the manner
28:47
Speaker 1: in which the interview was presented, it can only have
28:50
Speaker 1: been one a gender, and that was to harm the
28:53
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28:57
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29:00
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29:05
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of questions to be answered, asked
29:07
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29:11
Speaker 1: is unique about this particular attack on the UK Column,
29:15
Speaker 1: as well as the sad aspect of former presenters now
29:19
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29:23
Speaker 1: who work together with them for many years, we've also
29:27
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29:33
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29:37
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29:40
Speaker 1: or what it's doing. And now we're moving overseas to
29:44
Speaker 1: people who say, well, I'm not involved with Israeli Unit
29:49
Speaker 1: A two hundred, but i am ex IDF And now
29:55
Speaker 1: they are joining in to help stir the pod over this.
29:58
Speaker 1: And I think it's true to say that particular gentlemen
30:01
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30:08
Speaker 1: of her reports about the Middle East and what's happening
30:12
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30:17
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30:20
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30:24
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30:45
Speaker 1: in order to damage the reputation of the UK Column.
30:49
Speaker 1: And this is the bit that I find very interesting
30:52
Speaker 1: that we go from simple we could say, a simple
30:56
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Speaker 1: with the UK Column, but now they're being supported by
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31:11
Speaker 1: So lots of questions on this. If we just move
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Speaker 1: forward a little bit, I wanted to draw people's attention
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Speaker 1: to the fact that fairly recently Israel announced that it
31:22
Speaker 1: was going to be spending a huge amount of money
31:25
Speaker 1: as effectively a national PR budget, in order to save
31:30
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31:35
Speaker 1: So this is the Jerusalem Post. If we can pop
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31:41
Speaker 1: just quadrupled its PR budget to seven hundred and thirty
31:46
Speaker 1: million dollars, but experts claim that it won't work. So
31:51
Speaker 1: this is a vast amount of money which is being
31:54
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31:59
Speaker 1: And we just wonder whether it may be because UK
32:03
Speaker 1: column has been so strong in reporting matters to do
32:06
Speaker 1: with the Middle East, and in particular challenging the activities
32:10
Speaker 1: of the Israeli government, that we should now perhaps be
32:15
Speaker 1: in greater focus. We'll bring in another headline here from
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Speaker 1: the Jerusalem Post, and this is saying that this is
32:24
Speaker 1: talking about the budget itself, which is called the Hasbaru budget.
32:29
Speaker 1: It's two point three five billion in shekels four israel
32:34
Speaker 1: seven hundred and thirty million dollars approximately, And if we
32:39
Speaker 1: put in a bit of comment on screen here, this
32:43
Speaker 1: is what Israel calls its public diplomacy budget, and it
32:48
Speaker 1: also includes and announced fifty million dollar social media advertising
32:53
Speaker 1: buy in. So as far as the Israeli state is concerned,
33:00
Speaker 1: they are doing positive things to try and boost their image.
33:04
Speaker 1: But many people would say, looking at what Israel does
33:08
Speaker 1: and has done over many years, that alongside the positive work,
33:12
Speaker 1: they will be working to undermine and collapse any media
33:16
Speaker 1: organization that dares to challenge them. So if we move
33:20
Speaker 1: on through that a little bit here, this is a
33:23
Speaker 1: key statistic that this particular budget for twenty twenty six
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Speaker 1: is four times larger than the previous year of that
33:30
Speaker 1: alone is an incredible statement, and it is twenty times
33:34
Speaker 1: larger than the amount of money that was spent pre
33:37
Speaker 1: the Gaza slaughter. So Israel's under a huge amount of
33:42
Speaker 1: pressure here, and it does seem very strange that the
33:46
Speaker 1: moment there is some bitterness targeted the UK column. The
33:51
Speaker 1: first person who pops up is a former IDF individual
33:56
Speaker 1: who also I believe was specialized in crypto security, cybersecurity,
34:01
Speaker 1: cyber security. Thank you, Mike. And so if we just
34:05
Speaker 1: come onto this Jewish Telegraphic Agency report, it's another Jewish
34:11
Speaker 1: report talking about this, and of course we've got this
34:15
Speaker 1: comment again that their own experts are saying that the
34:18
Speaker 1: effort will not save Israel's reputational crisis. Now, if we
34:24
Speaker 1: focus on Unit eight two hundred, which of course is
34:27
Speaker 1: one of the most powerful organizations within Israel secretive cyber warfare,
34:34
Speaker 1: what is the IDFs Unit eight two hundred. This was
34:37
Speaker 1: a very simplistic report for the Jerusalem Post, but for
34:41
Speaker 1: our viewers we can say that Unit eight two hundred
34:44
Speaker 1: is the equivalent of the US National Security Agency or
34:48
Speaker 1: Britain's GHQ, and it is the largest single military unit
34:53
Speaker 1: in the Israeli that should say defense all Sorry, Israel's
34:57
Speaker 1: defense forces and its activities are usually highly secret and
35:05
Speaker 1: range from signals intelligence to data mining and technological attacks
35:10
Speaker 1: and strikes. So at the moment it is claimed that
35:15
Speaker 1: Unit eight two hundred is not involved in Israel's positive
35:21
Speaker 1: efforts to rebuild its reputation. But for me, the reality
35:26
Speaker 1: would have to be that this organization is absolutely embedded
35:30
Speaker 1: in just the way that the British government used seventy
35:34
Speaker 1: seven Brigate during the COVID era to attack organizations who
35:39
Speaker 1: were challenging government policy.
35:41
Speaker 2: I just say, Brian, you know you drew correctly drew
35:45
Speaker 2: the parallels between eighty two hundred and the NSA and GCHQ.
35:50
Speaker 2: Where there's to the parallel separate somewhat is the fact
35:55
Speaker 2: that eighty two hundred is an offensive organization as well
35:59
Speaker 2: as being defense. So if GCSQ and NSA about signals intelligence,
36:03
Speaker 2: eighty two hundred is absolutely about cyber warfare in an
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Speaker 2: offensive sense as well.
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Speaker 1: Indeed, and we're just reiterate so that we're very clear.
36:12
Speaker 1: The individual that's been supporting the attack on US has
36:16
Speaker 1: stated that he was not involved, is not involved with
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Speaker 1: Unit eight two hundred. We'll take that at face value.
36:23
Speaker 1: What we're indicating here is it's very interesting that such
36:27
Speaker 1: a massive and orchestrated attack should occur on the UK
36:32
Speaker 1: column at a time when, yes, we are heavily criticizing
36:37
Speaker 1: what's taking place in the Middle East. So just to
36:40
Speaker 1: support your comment there, Mike will bring this slide up
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Speaker 1: on screen if thank you very much so we've got
36:47
Speaker 1: just a few of the Israeli reports. This is so
36:52
Speaker 1: that our viewers know exactly what this organization is into.
36:55
Speaker 1: So it signals intelligent cyber warfare and surveillance unit and
37:02
Speaker 1: Israeli sources a tribute to it electronic interception, intelligence collections,
37:07
Speaker 1: cyber operations, data analysis, targeting support and that doesn't have
37:12
Speaker 1: to be kinetic targeting. It can also be via the
37:16
Speaker 1: Internet or IT whatever the system is. But of course
37:20
Speaker 1: no Israeli source admits to the involvement of Unit eight
37:24
Speaker 1: two hundred in the Hasbra program overall. And lastly, I'm
37:29
Speaker 1: just going to say that Vanessa Bailey having to cover
37:33
Speaker 1: more and more difficult topics with the horrors going on
37:36
Speaker 1: in the Middle East, and this is a substat talking
37:39
Speaker 1: about the rape and abuse of children in Israel. Clearly,
37:44
Speaker 1: this is material which the Israeli government at least would
37:48
Speaker 1: perceive to be damaging. So if you haven't seen the
37:52
Speaker 1: UK Column rebuttal, go onto the UK Column website you'll
37:56
Speaker 1: see the image on the page itself and a very
38:02
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38:08
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38:16
Speaker 2: Let's move on then. Now, if you like the UK Column,
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38:29
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38:32
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38:34
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38:37
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38:40
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38:41
Speaker 1: And the new copy which will be out in due course.
38:44
Speaker 1: We'll be talking about information.
38:45
Speaker 2: Information warfare absolutely is sort of the sort of running
38:49
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38:52
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Speaker 2: Okay, well we got there in the end, so thanks
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Speaker 2: for that. Nice Let's bring on jerm tonight. Now it
40:12
Speaker 2: was supposed to be, of course the usual banter session
40:18
Speaker 2: with Charles and myself tonight, but technical issues with that,
40:22
Speaker 2: so Michael Jones is going out tonight and then the
40:25
Speaker 2: banter with Charles will go out tomorrow. So e Michael
40:28
Speaker 2: Jones on Culture Wars and universal Universal Ethics German speaking
40:32
Speaker 2: to him at seven pm this evening at nine pm
40:35
Speaker 2: tonight is every accusation is confession. We debunk anti China
40:40
Speaker 2: tweets live, so that's so can steal and then tomorrow, Brian,
40:46
Speaker 2: you're discussing the Nick Griffin interview that Ben carried out
40:50
Speaker 2: with Ben.
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Speaker 1: Yes, this was a very very interesting little discussion. It's
40:55
Speaker 1: quite short. I think it's only about twenty five minutes long,
41:00
Speaker 1: but Bennett interviewed Nick Griffin, and I found the interview
41:05
Speaker 1: so interesting that I actually talked to Ben myself about
41:09
Speaker 1: what was discussed and some of the important points raised.
41:13
Speaker 1: So I think people will be interesting having a look
41:16
Speaker 1: at that now. I just like say that people give
41:20
Speaker 1: us information on a regular basis. And this gentleman Martin Brighton,
41:25
Speaker 1: who's done really sterling work for the UK column over
41:29
Speaker 1: many years. He's challenged fraud and corruption amongst city authorities,
41:34
Speaker 1: but he's also been working very hard over many more
41:37
Speaker 1: recent years to challenge the abuse of children within the
41:41
Speaker 1: so called child protection system. But he took the trouble
41:45
Speaker 1: to email us talking about the planned digital ID scheme
41:49
Speaker 1: and pointing out that when Blunkett was Home Secretary to
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Speaker 1: two thousand and two to six, when CSE cover ups
41:57
Speaker 1: weren't there worse for the era. In thousand and three,
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Speaker 1: ID cards was an issue high on the government's agenda.
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Speaker 1: I won't read the rest, but the key pit is
42:07
Speaker 1: here that Martin quite rightly is pointing out the seeds
42:11
Speaker 1: of all the things happening around the digital ID was
42:14
Speaker 1: happening many years ago. Indeed, now we must move on
42:18
Speaker 1: suit to some sad news, and if we're just popping
42:22
Speaker 1: back on screen, we're very sad to tell our audience
42:26
Speaker 1: today that Rodney Atkinson has passed away. And Rodney one
42:32
Speaker 1: of the established, dedicated, highly knowledgeable researchers and campaign campaigners
42:39
Speaker 1: against the rise of what he would describe as the
42:41
Speaker 1: corporatist fascism and fascists, and he's going to be missed
42:46
Speaker 1: by all of us.
42:47
Speaker 2: Now.
42:47
Speaker 1: This was very very unexpected for his family and it
42:52
Speaker 1: was a bit of a shock when it came in
42:53
Speaker 1: to us on Saturday, So our thoughts go out to
42:56
Speaker 1: his family. It was really lovely. They were very keen
43:01
Speaker 1: that we put out a little promotion for Rodney in
43:04
Speaker 1: his work, and we thought the best way to do
43:07
Speaker 1: that was just to show a little clip of his
43:10
Speaker 1: recent interview with Diane Rasmussen. That'sava listen.
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Speaker 6: Would you have forecasted that at the start of it,
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Speaker 6: that it would that it would become the serious around
43:21
Speaker 6: the world.
43:22
Speaker 13: Well, I forecast some of it. I knew that China
43:26
Speaker 13: would become more aggressive towards Taiwan as a result of Ukraine.
43:30
Speaker 13: That certainly happened, But then of course domestically Britain has
43:41
Speaker 13: put in billions into Ukraine and sent troops far more
43:49
Speaker 13: troops than have been publicly admitted. I'm sure yes, and
43:55
Speaker 13: the government is because of heightened tensions between Western East,
44:00
Speaker 13: or rather between the West and the global South and
44:03
Speaker 13: the East, because most of the Global South are not
44:07
Speaker 13: on the side of Britain and Europe, between America and Europe. Therefore,
44:19
Speaker 13: the dangers are getting worse every day.
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Speaker 1: Phenomenal insight from Rodney over a great many years in
44:28
Speaker 1: my early days, I learnt a huge amount from him
44:31
Speaker 1: and the work that he's done, and it was a
44:33
Speaker 1: real pleasure for me to meet him in person many
44:37
Speaker 1: many years ago. So well were a number of US
44:41
Speaker 1: meadument person. And of course we should not forget that he,
44:45
Speaker 1: with Norris Macwerder right at the very beginning, was attempting
44:48
Speaker 1: to bring miss President of treason charges against members of
44:53
Speaker 1: the British government at the time who were involved in
44:55
Speaker 1: the signing of the Master ex Treaty, including Douglas Hurd. Indeed,
44:59
Speaker 1: and I'm saying this is another reason why when the
45:02
Speaker 1: next the column is out magazine, there's going to be
45:07
Speaker 1: some articles touching on some of these subjects. So encourage
45:10
Speaker 1: people to get that. But remarkable man. We will cover more,
45:14
Speaker 1: but today just a short piece to recognize his sound laws.
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Speaker 2: Let's move on then, and the Digital and Technology ministers
45:25
Speaker 2: of the G seven met in Paris on Friday. Here
45:28
Speaker 2: they are now I've titled this children not censorship, because
45:32
Speaker 2: this is certainly what they are claiming. They are claiming
45:35
Speaker 2: that they want to protect children, and I'm saying that's
45:38
Speaker 2: quite a lot of nonsense. They signed what the British
45:41
Speaker 2: government is calling a landmark agreement. The Department for Science,
45:45
Speaker 2: Innovation Technology says that the seven leading economies have for
45:49
Speaker 2: the first time agreed to common approach to protecting children online.
45:54
Speaker 2: If we just bring that on screen again. The agreement
45:56
Speaker 2: then focuses on stronger ed insurance measures, improve digital literacy
46:01
Speaker 2: for children and parents, greater responsibility on tech companies to
46:05
Speaker 2: manage risks, addressing emerging threats from AI, chatbots and tools
46:10
Speaker 2: and so on. So they the Starber government is presenting
46:16
Speaker 2: this agreement as a step towards its stated ambition to
46:19
Speaker 2: make Britain the safest place in the world to be online.
46:23
Speaker 2: That's what they say, and it links it directly to
46:26
Speaker 2: their own consultation on the under sixteens having access or
46:30
Speaker 2: not to social media, which is of course suggesting things
46:34
Speaker 2: like curfewsed bands and restrictions on features such as infinite scrolling.
46:39
Speaker 2: The European Commission, for its part, says that the principles
46:42
Speaker 2: are directly inspired by the EU Zone approach, so they're
46:45
Speaker 2: trying to claim that this is all their idea, built
46:49
Speaker 2: on the Digital Services Act, the AI Act and its
46:52
Speaker 2: age verification blueprint. France holds G seven presidency this year.
46:57
Speaker 2: They have called the protection of minors and national children
47:01
Speaker 2: to you and me an international priority. They highlighted the
47:05
Speaker 2: importance of improving detection of AI generated content and helping
47:09
Speaker 2: users including children, identify misleading and the deceptive material online,
47:14
Speaker 2: and of course the whole issue of misinformation and disinformation
47:18
Speaker 2: is something that sort of just floats along under the
47:21
Speaker 2: surface as much as you know, as it always as
47:24
Speaker 2: it always has done. They re iterated the importance of
47:28
Speaker 2: trust in data as a foundation for innovation, and of
47:33
Speaker 2: course they're committing to further enabling cross border data flows
47:37
Speaker 2: while they say maintaining protections for privacy, security and intellectual property,
47:42
Speaker 2: and they also agreed to continue work to ensure the
47:45
Speaker 2: digital and AI sector is resilient and resource efficient, and
47:50
Speaker 2: they recognized the growing pressures on energy and infrastructure because
47:55
Speaker 2: at this point of course they have not yet identified
47:58
Speaker 2: where the electricity is going to come from to parer
48:03
Speaker 2: these data centers and to keep them cool. And they're
48:07
Speaker 2: also suggesting that AI and wider digital technologies can play
48:12
Speaker 2: or so least be a part in the solution by
48:14
Speaker 2: providing by improving efficiency and optimizing energy systems. But anyway,
48:20
Speaker 2: what we have here, Brian, I don't know what your
48:22
Speaker 2: thoughts are, but what we have here, I would argue,
48:25
Speaker 2: are the first steps along the road that Britain has
48:27
Speaker 2: been working on for some time, and that's the setting
48:29
Speaker 2: up of of Karma's heart at the heart of a
48:32
Speaker 2: global narrative control system. And that's how I'm reading it anyway.
48:37
Speaker 2: I think it's a really good way of putting it.
48:38
Speaker 2: And of course that is alongside the BBC, which is
48:42
Speaker 2: such a massive global media organization which boasts of its
48:47
Speaker 2: ability to get into countries and help destabilize them. The
48:52
Speaker 2: two together are really really dangerous, and of course you
48:56
Speaker 2: sell it on the emotional pull that we are only
48:59
Speaker 2: there protecting children, so quite disgusting let's look at the reality.
49:05
Speaker 2: And thank you very much to Mum Kate Markland who
49:09
Speaker 2: sent this particular all this particular article to my attention.
49:13
Speaker 2: Those that have followed my work trying to protect children
49:17
Speaker 2: and trying to get the lid off the abuse of
49:20
Speaker 2: children through the child so called child protection system in
49:24
Speaker 2: the UK will know that in my earliest talk in Bristol,
49:30
Speaker 2: I pointed out the vast amounts of money to be
49:32
Speaker 2: made from the child protection and childcare system. Now this
49:38
Speaker 2: is the Financial Times and they've just commented how England's
49:42
Speaker 2: vulnerable children became a gold mind for investors. This is
49:47
Speaker 2: just a little bit of the information, but essentially providers
49:51
Speaker 2: charged the state an average of three hundred and eighty
49:55
Speaker 2: four and twenty pounds per child per year, the paper states,
50:01
Speaker 2: is a huge rise from a decade ago. That is
50:04
Speaker 2: multiple times the cost of the country's most prodigious, prestigious
50:08
Speaker 2: boarding schools such as Eton College, and of its young
50:12
Speaker 2: offender institutions. But what we need to do is just
50:17
Speaker 2: some simple maths here, or math if you're in the
50:20
Speaker 2: United States. At the moment, the approximate figure for the
50:24
Speaker 2: number of children in care in England is eighty one thousand,
50:29
Speaker 2: seven hundred and seventy and therefore, if we multiply that
50:34
Speaker 2: eighty one thousand by the three hundred and eighty four
50:38
Speaker 2: thousand per child per year, we are into a multi
50:42
Speaker 2: billion pound industry supposedly around the care of children. And
50:47
Speaker 2: yet we know from more and more data and testimony
50:50
Speaker 2: coming forward from the parents that more and more children
50:54
Speaker 2: are abused inside the system where there is nobody to
50:58
Speaker 2: see what's happening and to protect the children. So this
51:02
Speaker 2: is a brutal system about making vast amounts of money
51:06
Speaker 2: from the so called care of children, and in the reality,
51:10
Speaker 2: it sucks children into a system where there are even
51:14
Speaker 2: more risk of abuse than possibly they were within their
51:18
Speaker 2: own abusive family. So this is terrible stuff. But I'm
51:22
Speaker 2: very glad that Kate Markland herself, who has been alienated
51:27
Speaker 2: from her son for a long period of time, gave
51:29
Speaker 2: me this little update. And what she's been doing is
51:33
Speaker 2: so uplifting. I thought I would share it with viewers
51:37
Speaker 2: today because it lightens the mood and it also shows
51:41
Speaker 2: what parents can do when they decide that they are
51:44
Speaker 2: not going to be beaten down with the state. So
51:47
Speaker 2: let's have a little look at an interview I did
51:50
Speaker 2: a couple of days ago with Kate. I'm speaking off
51:54
Speaker 2: camera initially, but then she will come into focus. Bring
52:00
Speaker 2: us up today. What's been happening.
52:02
Speaker 9: So about a month ago, Gabriel and I had somewhere
52:06
Speaker 9: between sixty minutes and ninety minutes together when he was
52:09
Speaker 9: allowed to stay with me and Granny for over an hour.
52:14
Speaker 9: And you can imagine how tightly hugged him and hugged
52:18
Speaker 9: him and hugged him and hugged him, and the smile
52:21
Speaker 9: and relief on his face, and yeah, it was wonderful
52:26
Speaker 9: to see him and wonderful to feel that. I mean,
52:33
Speaker 9: I know, throughout it all, he knows I've never given
52:36
Speaker 9: up on him, but to actually feel that, for him
52:37
Speaker 9: to let me just hug him and hug him, hug him,
52:41
Speaker 9: was a huge, huge relief. Our third book's going to
52:45
Speaker 9: be out in September, and we're also in the process
52:48
Speaker 9: of creating a little Toddler's book, which will be based
52:51
Speaker 9: on some of Gabriel's favorite themes and stories when he
52:53
Speaker 9: was little. So India has been celebrating me. I've been
52:59
Speaker 9: on the front cover of the Maggie Seeing in India
53:00
Speaker 9: when a women's Leadership Award in India since weew you
53:03
Speaker 9: interviewed me, and I'm about to receive a sort of
53:07
Speaker 9: recognition as an icon in India as well. We've been
53:11
Speaker 9: in Pakistan's education press, we have been in numerous podcasts
53:15
Speaker 9: in America and the education press in Canada. Argentina's picked
53:19
Speaker 9: up on me. Some women in Argentina have picked up
53:20
Speaker 9: on me because this state sealing of children is a
53:23
Speaker 9: battle that they've been fighting for absolutely decades, so they
53:26
Speaker 9: know our story and our position in a moment you
53:29
Speaker 9: don't have to explain anything. A couple of journalists in
53:35
Speaker 9: Australia have picked up on us so and Nigeria Nigeria
53:39
Speaker 9: have as well. So yes, we have been absolutely everywhere
53:43
Speaker 9: and we will keep going. We're not going to hide. Yes,
53:48
Speaker 9: we'll be launching our third book in collaboration or no,
53:53
Speaker 9: in alignment with the UK Column's twentieth anniversary on the
53:59
Speaker 9: nineteenth twentieth September in Plymouth, and I would love to
54:03
Speaker 9: see that and I keep praying that Gable can be
54:06
Speaker 9: there with me too.
54:09
Speaker 1: Really outstanding work by this lady and Katus, she says,
54:13
Speaker 1: will be at the UK Column conference in Plymouth. It's
54:17
Speaker 1: actually the eighteenth through to the twentieth and she's going
54:21
Speaker 1: to be speaking, plus, as she says, she'll be launching
54:25
Speaker 1: another book and she is going to be there to
54:28
Speaker 1: meet UK column members, supporters' guests in order to talk
54:33
Speaker 1: about the problems that she's encountered the successes that she had.
54:38
Speaker 1: But it's a really fantastic story. And if you haven't
54:41
Speaker 1: seen one of her books that's been written with her
54:44
Speaker 1: son while they've been alienated from each other, it's really
54:48
Speaker 1: incredible work.
54:51
Speaker 2: Okay, Now, the Department of Health has announced twenty thousand
54:55
Speaker 2: fewer A and E visits a year thanks to Single
54:58
Speaker 2: Patient Record. This is all the about the NHS Modernization Bill,
55:03
Speaker 2: which is being debided in Parliament today and which will
55:06
Speaker 2: introduce the Single Patient Record, allowing fragmented health information to
55:10
Speaker 2: be joined up around the country for the first time ever.
55:14
Speaker 2: That's what they say. They say that the Single Patient
55:16
Speaker 2: Record will mean that all NHS providers, including hospitals and gps,
55:21
Speaker 2: have to share their data. Some doctors, nurses and specialists
55:24
Speaker 2: across England can securely see a patient's medical history no
55:28
Speaker 2: matter where they're treated. Now for patients they're complain they're
55:30
Speaker 2: claiming that this is very convenient, and of course that's
55:34
Speaker 2: the ral justification for silly things. But anyway, the Department
55:37
Speaker 2: of Health says quotes, this means they will not have
55:40
Speaker 2: to keep repeating their story unnecessarily. It will result in safer,
55:44
Speaker 2: more coordinated care, with clinicians having the full picture when
55:48
Speaker 2: and where it's needed. Now, as for Palanteer, this means
55:52
Speaker 2: a statutory basis for what they're doing. So if we
55:54
Speaker 2: just bring this on screen, it basically means all the records,
55:59
Speaker 2: as we've just said, well, be consolidated. Neither Department of
56:02
Speaker 2: Health press release doesn't mention Polenteer or the Federated Data
56:05
Speaker 2: Platform or the National Data Integration Tenant, so there's nothing
56:09
Speaker 2: in this in the press release itself that confirms a
56:13
Speaker 2: benefit to Polunteer directly. However, the bills stated function, which
56:18
Speaker 2: is the joining together of these fragmented records, is exactly
56:23
Speaker 2: the same problem that the Federated Data Platform for the NHS,
56:27
Speaker 2: which is run by Volunteer, is supposed to solve. On
56:30
Speaker 2: top of that, the Medium turn sorry, the Medium Term
56:34
Speaker 2: Planning Framework twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven to twenty
56:37
Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty twenty nine which is published in October
56:39
Speaker 2: last year, sets the expectation that all providers in integrated
56:43
Speaker 2: careboards complete the rollout of the Palenteer run Federated Data
56:47
Speaker 2: platform and use this core products by twenty twenty eight
56:50
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty nine, and that is expanding polunteers installed
56:55
Speaker 2: footprint across the system across the NHS on exactly the
56:59
Speaker 2: same time line that the single Patient Record is supposed
57:02
Speaker 2: to be rolled out. So another thing to notice that
57:04
Speaker 2: the NHS claims at this time that Volunteer cannot take
57:10
Speaker 2: the data held in the federator sorry in the Federated
57:13
Speaker 2: data platform and use it for its own purposes, for
57:15
Speaker 2: example for training volunteer AI systems. But the federated data
57:19
Speaker 2: platform has a holding area that we've already mentioned here.
57:22
Speaker 2: It's called the National Data Integration Tenant and that's where
57:26
Speaker 2: non pseudonymized data is held before being processed. And until recently,
57:31
Speaker 2: Volunteer was only able to access this on the basis
57:36
Speaker 2: that they made specific applications to get access to specific
57:41
Speaker 2: data sets, so access was meant to be pacemeal and
57:45
Speaker 2: case by case. But according to the Financial Times and
57:48
Speaker 2: confirmed by the Register, a document released by NHS in England,
57:53
Speaker 2: which isn't publicly available as far as I know now.
57:57
Speaker 2: It says that volunteer staff will be given a new
57:59
Speaker 2: admin role that lets them into the NDIT and its
58:04
Speaker 2: identifiable patient data, and that other consultants working on the
58:08
Speaker 2: federated data platform will get similar access. So NHS England
58:12
Speaker 2: claims that the change is meant to apply to a
58:14
Speaker 2: small number of people working on the central platform that
58:17
Speaker 2: collects data to monitor NHS performance, and that anyone external
58:22
Speaker 2: leading access must have government security clearance and be approved
58:26
Speaker 2: by an NHS director or above. But the point is
58:29
Speaker 2: that we're seeing an incremental relaxation of the rules permitting
58:32
Speaker 2: greater and greater access. So you'll have to excuse me
58:36
Speaker 2: if I'm somewhat cynical about the claims that Pallanteer will
58:38
Speaker 2: not be able to use NHS data for its own purposes.
58:43
Speaker 2: But this latest bill, I'm not sure that they quite
58:46
Speaker 2: know what to call it, because it may be the
58:48
Speaker 2: Health Bill, it may be another name for it. This
58:51
Speaker 2: leadest bill, which enables the creation of this single patient
58:54
Speaker 2: record would under normal circumstances, improve efficiency and could make
58:59
Speaker 2: it comes froment is better, But in the context of
59:01
Speaker 2: this sort of growing panoptagon that we're seeing at the moment.
59:04
Speaker 2: There's a very strong case to be made of the bill.
59:06
Speaker 2: The Federator data platform and the single patient record are
59:10
Speaker 2: for palenteers benefit and not for the patient's benefit until
59:15
Speaker 2: we continue to be firmed Brian.
59:18
Speaker 1: Immensely immensely dangerous. I'll just go back to signatures on checks,
59:23
Speaker 1: and we were told we've got to get rid of
59:24
Speaker 1: signatures because of the fraud and corruption. We need a
59:27
Speaker 1: pin number, and then we're told, well, the problem with
59:29
Speaker 1: the pin number is that people are actually raiding databases
59:33
Speaker 1: and stealing money. And we've got exactly the same thing
59:36
Speaker 1: going on here. But an Israeli backed company now able
59:42
Speaker 1: not only to see what is available about you on
59:45
Speaker 1: the Internet at large, is now able to get into
59:48
Speaker 1: your full, complete medical records. And as we've said earlier on,
59:54
Speaker 1: we've got elements of the Israeli state actively and aggressively
1:00:00
Speaker 1: getting into data in order to attack people who are
1:00:04
Speaker 1: asking too many questions about what they are actually up to.
1:00:08
Speaker 1: This is immensely dangerous, Mike, I find it shocking, and
1:00:13
Speaker 1: people really need.
1:00:14
Speaker 2: To push back.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: Let's finish on a habby note. Brian Pira Madelson. I laugh,
1:00:21
Speaker 1: but of course this is just sad. I wanted to
1:00:24
Speaker 1: point out that if you have watched the BBC's reporting
1:00:28
Speaker 1: over Epstein over the last few months, they have done
1:00:32
Speaker 1: a fantastic job. Yes, I'm going to say well done
1:00:35
Speaker 1: the BBC, because what they've done is taken the real
1:00:39
Speaker 1: dangers of what Epstein was up to with his banking colleagues.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: And this is what Ben has been touching on with
1:00:45
Speaker 1: his dialogue on the escape Key articles. Epstein and his
1:00:51
Speaker 1: manipulation are very very powerful and serious things to do
1:00:54
Speaker 1: with banking, and his abuse of youngsters young women. That
1:01:01
Speaker 1: has all gone into the long grass. Epstein has gone,
1:01:04
Speaker 1: and the only people who were a little bit naughty
1:01:07
Speaker 1: were Mandleson and Andrew. So credit where it's due. The
1:01:12
Speaker 1: BBC done a fantastic job of pushing Epstein into the
1:01:16
Speaker 1: long grass. And now we've got the government saying, well,
1:01:20
Speaker 1: children are not going to be allowed to learn anything
1:01:23
Speaker 1: from social media. The children presumably are going to suck
1:01:27
Speaker 1: up the lie that well, the only thing that Epstein
1:01:30
Speaker 1: was about was Mandleson and Andrew. It's utterly outrageous. I
1:01:36
Speaker 1: have more things to say on the BBC, but I've
1:01:38
Speaker 1: broken away from the happy note.
1:01:40
Speaker 2: So sorry that.
1:01:42
Speaker 1: Well we can't do Yeah, why don't we leave it
1:01:44
Speaker 1: there for today? I think that would be a good
1:01:46
Speaker 1: thing to do. We'll end on the note a huge,
1:01:49
Speaker 1: huge thank you so everybody that emailed us over the
1:01:53
Speaker 1: weekend with support. That has been really a huge boost.
1:01:57
Speaker 1: We are sorry to find our in the middle of
1:02:01
Speaker 1: this storm, but it's very clear to us, as we
1:02:04
Speaker 1: have said in today's news, that this is not just
1:02:07
Speaker 1: a gripe with a few people. This has now become
1:02:11
Speaker 1: a controlled attack on the UK column where the attack
1:02:14
Speaker 1: is being planned, and I've no doubt part of the
1:02:17
Speaker 1: agenda was to try and collapse the twentieth anniversary. There's
1:02:22
Speaker 1: no chance of that. And of course that tremendous weekend
1:02:27
Speaker 1: is going ahead and will be a full house. I
1:02:30
Speaker 1: don't think there's any doubt about that. But sad times
1:02:33
Speaker 1: we live in to see people behaving in this way,
1:02:37
Speaker 1: and people need to ask a lot of questions about
1:02:40
Speaker 1: the professionals, the academics who are now clustering around in
1:02:45
Speaker 1: order to make these unfounded accusations of the UK Column.
1:02:51
Speaker 1: We'll end it there. It's okay, We'll say, by from
1:02:55
Speaker 1: all of us. That's the end of the news. If
1:02:57
Speaker 1: you're a UK column member, we'll be back in a
1:02:59
Speaker 1: few moments for UK column Extra. See you then, MHM.