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- 0:00Good evening and welcome to the Rooted Soul Podcast.
- 0:04therootedsoulbooks.com is the website.
- 0:06alan@therootedsoulbooks.com is the email. @alanmacdonaldire is the Instagram
- 0:11handle. Website has the book on special offer, the first collection before
- 0:15the second is published. I thought I
- 0:20would have a second part to the Halloween podcast special.
- 0:25I was a little shook the other evening when I recounted the story of the
- 0:30Joiner's Arms and, uh, the ghostly— what seems
- 0:34to have been a ghostly apparition that I didn't realize at first was such.
- 0:38And there's some people who are in a little bit of disbelief.
- 0:42I embellished, obviously, the telling of the Christmas story,
- 0:45but the rest of it is actually very true. And I've written
- 0:49a companion piece to start off this second part.
- 0:53It's called The Joiner's Arms Farmer.
- 0:59On a wild winter's eve, bone sick of the rain,
- 1:03I stopped in the joiner's for a pint of the plain.
- 1:07Friend arriving late, time for warmth and a ponder,
- 1:11when he caught my eye before over he wandered.
- 1:15An old man out of time, in this place and almost life.
- 1:19Cloth cap with labour's grime, long wax coat with
- 1:22frayed signs. I watched as he stood at the bar
- 1:27all alone. How odd when he could engage the
- 1:31throng at pint's throne. And once
- 1:35he turned and doffed his cap, over he shuffled
- 1:38to engage in a chat. He was pale,
- 1:42almost blue. Hobbed boots made no sound.
- 1:46Pub lighting gave him a hue, but I shrugged off my frown.
- 1:51He sounded old Ireland and regaled me this tale of
- 1:56his Christmas ghost and the footsteps following his trail.
- 2:01The story sent a shiver, though I now realize something
- 2:05about this farmer gave my hackles a rise.
- 2:09We parted most cordial, and he turned for the gents.
- 2:13One glance at my phone, then I turned to follow hence,
- 2:17but he had disappeared in seconds flat. No sign
- 2:22of the farmer. No sense to make of that.
- 2:25He had nowhere to go, but in the end never went.
- 2:29My friend described him in full in the empty bar before we left.
- 2:36Reminding myself of that story Um,
- 2:41and the encounter with, with him,
- 2:44whoever it was, wherever time and place he was from,
- 2:49did give me a little pause for thought. I've had a few
- 2:52of those kind of experiences over the years that you can't quite explain.
- 2:57So maybe people will think there's a logical explanation for it, I don't know.
- 3:01But it made me think of a lot of Irish ghost stories, and I'll tell
- 3:05a few of them this evening. That I think ghosts
- 3:11are real no matter what you believe in.
- 3:15I've often said that, and someone says, well, how would you like to be remembered?
- 3:18Is that, well, when the last person is gone who knew me or has memories
- 3:22of me or memories of stories of me, then I don't need to be
- 3:26remembered. And there's something in that, I think, that ghosts are
- 3:32You can go to a place that you used to frequent
- 3:37with friends, family. You've— we've all experienced
- 3:41that, right? You go somewhere that was so full of life and your life at
- 3:45the time. And there's a feeling of ghosts in the room
- 3:49and ghosts on the wall. You know, when you
- 3:53enter into that space, which now has none of those people,
- 3:56it only holds the memories. And those memories, depending on
- 4:00where it is, are different for different people.
- 4:04And I always feel that even if it's held in your own imagination,
- 4:08it's real. There's something to it. Something fires up those
- 4:11synapses to give you that sense of either
- 4:16déjà vu or just the memories of good or
- 4:20bad times or in between.
- 4:23I happen to believe there's a veil.
- 4:27Between this world and elsewhere.
- 4:31And I think that's what that was that night.
- 4:35I mean, I was— it was a weekday evening. I mean,
- 4:38I literally first sip of a Guinness, so it wasn't about being
- 4:41drunk. And my eye was drawn to
- 4:45him, you know, at the bar.
- 4:48And, uh, something was— you can't
- 4:52quite make it out. And my friend, who I won't name, So it's not fair,
- 4:56you know, had said— I was— when she described
- 5:00him later that night, and I had not given any description, I was
- 5:04like, can you— if that bar is full,
- 5:08can you tell the difference? And she was like, I can't
- 5:12tell you how, but yes, I can tell. I found that
- 5:16fascinating. And look, there's any number of logical, I guess, explanations,
- 5:19but It was a very interesting encounter for me, and, um,
- 5:23one I don't think I'll ever quite forget. Um,
- 5:28but this time of year in particular, it's— I love
- 5:32it, you know, watching old horror movies, the old— I was going to try and
- 5:35do some kind of creaking door sounds and stuff in the background, but I thought
- 5:38that's so cliché. But it's,
- 5:41um, this kind of part 2, or as
- 5:44I should call it, part woo.
- 5:49I've just ruined it for everyone now, haven't I? I thought
- 5:53I'd read some— there's a poem from W.B.
- 5:57Yeats who's a favorite of mine and an occultist,
- 6:01a man who loved the black arts and the dark arts and black magic and
- 6:06all of that stuff. He was a member of the Hermetic Order of the Golden
- 6:09Dawn, which I encourage you all to look up. I keep saying it, I'll do
- 6:12a podcast on him and Aleister Crowley, the links between them,
- 6:15L. Ron Hubbard, and there's really interesting stories
- 6:19to be told there. This is called The Host of the Air.
- 6:24O'Driscoll drove with a song, The Wild Duck and the Drake,
- 6:28from the tall and the tufted weeds of the drear heart
- 6:32lake, and he saw how the weeds grew dark at the coming
- 6:36of night tide, and he dreamed of the long dim hair of
- 6:40Bridget, his bride. He heard while
- 6:44he sang and dreamed a piper piping away, and never
- 6:48was piping so sad, and never was piping so gay.
- 6:53And he saw young men and young girls who danced on a level place,
- 6:57and Bridget his bride among them with a sad and gay face.
- 7:02The dancers crowded about him, and many a sweet thing said,
- 7:07and a young man brought him red wine, and a young girl white
- 7:11bread. But Bridget drew him by the sleeve away from the
- 7:15merry bands to old men playing at cards with a twinkling
- 7:19of, twinkling of ancient hands. The bread and the wine
- 7:23had a doom, for these were the hosts of the air.
- 7:26He sat and played in the dream of her long dim
- 7:30hair. He played with the merry old men and
- 7:34thought not of evil chance. Until one bore Bridget, his bride,
- 7:38away from the merry dance. He bore her away in his arms,
- 7:43the handsomest young man there, and his neck and his breast and his arms were
- 7:47drowned in her long dim hair. O'Driscoll scattered the
- 7:51cards and out of his dream awoke.
- 7:54Old men and young men and young girls were going like drifting smoke.
- 8:00He— but he heard high up in the air a piper piping away,
- 8:04and never was piping so sad, and never was piping so gay.
- 8:10Sorry, I tripped up a little bit there, guys, but, uh,
- 8:13I do love how, uh, Yeats writes. You know,
- 8:17there's something— he's another writer that there's
- 8:22something deep beyond the words.
- 8:25You, you're kind of— you're brought to a visual, I think.
- 8:29Of the scene he's writing about, whether it's real or imagined.
- 8:35But I think it's amazing. I had— I'm going
- 8:43to read another one here.
- 8:47This is called The Haunted
- 8:51House by George William Russell.
- 8:58He was an Irish, an Irish writer. I don't know that much about him,
- 9:01but I do like this. Here where the night is
- 9:04quiet and deep, a phantom walks through the rooms of sleep.
- 9:09No step is heard on the creaking floor, no hand is laid
- 9:13on the unlatching door. Yet something moves in this silent space,
- 9:17a pale cold thought from an ancient place.
- 9:21A shadow born of a forgotten grief that falls on
- 9:24the heart like a withered leaf. It lingers
- 9:28long by the cold hearthstone to dream of
- 9:32a fire that was once its own, then slips away in the morning gray before
- 9:36the shadow is chased by day.
- 9:40It's a wonderful short piece. I must check out more of his work, actually.
- 9:44I had, um, I have a poetry
- 9:48book somewhere on night poems, poets that wrote either kind
- 9:52of ghost story poems or, you know, the kind of writing
- 9:57by candlelight type poems of that dark of which any of you know I love
- 10:00that time. It's a very creative, very open-minded time,
- 10:04I think.
- 10:07This is another one. This is called The Fairy House by Alice Mulligan.
- 10:12Published in 1908.
- 10:18The night is cold on the mountainside, the wind is sharp and the dark is
- 10:22wide. Listen, O listen, along the glen comes
- 10:25the tramp of the ghostly men, not with the sound
- 10:29of iron shod nor heavy tread on the mountain sod, but light
- 10:33as the leaf that the autumn weaves and soft as the fall
- 10:37of the winter leaves. They pass the house where the fires burn red.
- 10:41They call no name from the quiet bed, but the watcher shivers
- 10:46to feel them pass like a breath of frost on the window
- 10:50glass. That's a wonderful last line—
- 10:54like a breath of frost on the window glass.
- 10:58There's a lot of old Irish ghost stories, tales, and poems which
- 11:02are fantastic, you know. And I know there's,
- 11:06as I said before, Eddie Lenihan is one to check out.
- 11:10He's an Irish storyteller, Seanachór, and he's
- 11:15incredible. But he has a whole store of the oral tradition from
- 11:20Ireland, you know, going back thousands of years.
- 11:24I keep going back to that joiner's arms. That experience of mine
- 11:28I'd forgotten about for a long time, or at least it was in the back
- 11:30of my mind. This time of year, I guess. And it was around this time
- 11:34of year, it wasn't quite up at Halloween, but it was October or November,
- 11:37I think. Um, because I know it was dark and
- 11:41cold and wet. Um, a bit like myself, what? Um,
- 11:45but yeah, so I think
- 11:50I'm gonna read another piece.
- 11:57This is called The Dead Ship of the Atlantic.
- 12:00It was the 5th week out from the COVID of Cork, bound for
- 12:04Boston on a timber brig called the Kathleen.
- 12:08We were caught in a dead calm off the Grand Banks, a fog so
- 12:12thick and white you couldn't see the bowsprit from the wheel, and the sea
- 12:16beneath us as flat and black as polished slate.
- 12:20Just after midnight on the middle watch, That's the,
- 12:23that's the watch that, uh, that's the, that's the middle watch
- 12:27is the one that tends to get the most paranormal activity. The air turned
- 12:30bitter cold, not the damp chill of the fog, but a sudden dry
- 12:35frost that froze the spray on the deck timbers.
- 12:38That was when we heard it. No foghorn, no bell,
- 12:43just the slow, heavy creak of ungreased blocks and the
- 12:46slap of rotten canvas against spars. Out of the wall of
- 12:51white rolled a 3-masted schooner.
- 12:54She carried no lights at her masthead, and her sails were torn
- 12:58into gray hanging ribbons that never stirred in the dead
- 13:02air. She moved across the water with a smooth, silent glide,
- 13:06cutting the glass of the sea without leaving a single
- 13:09ripple or wake. The watch captain called
- 13:13out through his trumpet. Ship ahoy! What vessel is that?
- 13:17No voice answered from her quarterdeck, but as she drifted
- 13:22alongside so close her main boom nearly brushed our
- 13:26rigging, we saw the crew. They were standing along the gunwale,
- 13:316 or 7 men in salt-stained coats, motionless as statues.
- 13:36Their faces were gray and shriveled like dried kelp, eyes wide
- 13:40and staring straight ahead into the mist. At the wheel stood
- 13:44a tall man with a tangled beard, his hands frozen fast to
- 13:48the wooden spokes, staring down at a compass housing
- 13:52that was shattered and empty. Not a soul
- 13:56on board moved, not a breath was drawn.
- 13:59They passed us in total suffocating silence, slipping back
- 14:03into the white fog as fast as they appeared. When our captain checked
- 14:07the charts that night, He found the log of an Irish emigrant ship that had
- 14:11gone missing in those exact coordinates 40 years prior.
- 14:15She'd sailed out of Galway in the winter of '46,
- 14:18never reached port, and was never heard from again except by
- 14:22men becalmed in the fog on the Grand Banks who watch her still steering
- 14:26a dead course for a shore she'll never touch.
- 14:31Wow, I really like that. That's a creepy tale.
- 14:35I do love the, um,
- 14:39maritime kind of ghost stories. They're, they're, they're kind
- 14:43of more creepy because it's just the idea
- 14:46of the dead sailing a ghost ship in
- 14:51eternity, but also to come alongside that or to be on a ship that
- 14:58has some of that activity going on. And you're surrounded by
- 15:02nothing but water. You have nowhere to go. So you're trapped with that
- 15:07on the vessel, whatever that might be.
- 15:10So I always find those are quite, quite chilling tales,
- 15:14actually. You know,
- 15:17I had another experience. People are gonna think I'm mad.
- 15:21And this was about 8 years ago, I would say.
- 15:25And I was in the back of an Uber chatting to the driver.
- 15:29And there was— it was late at night, but there was something holding up traffic,
- 15:31so it was going relatively slow. He saw what I saw though. We were
- 15:35going by a church which had a, um, a graveyard attached.
- 15:40And there was a— it was late enough at night, but there seemed to be
- 15:43a white apparition of a woman that seemed to be floating
- 15:48above one of the gravestones. Now at first I thought it was a woman in
- 15:51white And maybe some lighting or lamppost
- 15:55or something was coming down to illuminate. Well, we were both completely freaked
- 15:58out by it because we were far enough away that you can't be sure,
- 16:02but not so far like that you're fairly certain that what I'm seeing
- 16:07here is weird. It's not of— maybe not of
- 16:10this world. Um, and it kind of freaked
- 16:14me out a little bit. I, I tend not to be too scared by that
- 16:17stuff. Mostly. It might send a shiver, but I
- 16:20know they can't do us harm, whatever they are. And quite often,
- 16:25they're poor, for what I believe anyway, they're poor souls that
- 16:28are— I don't like to think that they're souls that
- 16:32are stuck in a memory, in a loop.
- 16:37I think it's an echo,
- 16:41as I've said before, that there's a ghost on the wall.
- 16:45So something happens in a place, you know, the old stone
- 16:50tape theory where— stone tape, I should say— where something
- 16:55can happen that's so tragic or brings about such extreme
- 17:01emotion that actually part of that person stays,
- 17:04but it's not the person, it's the memory that
- 17:08stays on there. Now, I have no idea, Lewisham High Street,
- 17:12Southeast London, uh, in the 21st century.
- 17:15What a farmer who looked from the 1940s or '50s or '60s
- 17:19from rural Ireland, what he was doing
- 17:23there, if he was an old soul, I don't know.
- 17:27But, um, and maybe I'm doing him a disservice and he was actually
- 17:30real, but it, it, it makes no sense, as I said the other night.
- 17:35But I like to think that it's not souls that are trapped anywhere. No soul
- 17:39should be trapped anywhere. And, you know, I like
- 17:42the idea of certain tenets of Judaism where there
- 17:46isn't really a heaven and hell. You are sent somewhere
- 17:50for your soul to be cleansed for a period of time before you
- 17:53return to all the other souls.
- 17:57And I like that idea. So I hope that
- 18:01what we see is not someone who's stuck that needs to move towards
- 18:04the light. Everyone deserves to go to that,
- 18:07to go on from this mortal coil once we're gone.
- 18:11But I, I'll close out this evening with
- 18:16one of my horror poems. And let
- 18:20me just find the right one here. One I think I haven't read before.
- 18:26Demon Decor. Writings on the wall under her painting.
- 18:31Wondering, appalled, unfolding, explaining how odd
- 18:35it is. We talk of hell, hot furnaces, burning yells.
- 18:40Yet here he has chosen the evil in my home, whose touch is frozen
- 18:44wherever I go. So maybe devils thrive
- 18:48in cold and they heat another lie that they have told.
- 18:54I know, guys, I've been a little creepy tonight,
- 18:58but I do I do enjoy the tales. Do let me
- 19:02know, guys. As I say, alan@therootedsoulbooks.com is the email,
- 19:06or on my Instagram social media. I love to hear people's
- 19:10thoughts, and I'll lay out that poem when
- 19:14I put this up on social media for people to
- 19:18read. I may do an individual reading of it as well if people like that,
- 19:22so let me know. So again, guys,
- 19:25There's details of the live show, 26th of February to Friday,
- 19:30NYX Hotel in Dublin, 2027. And details
- 19:35of that will be up on the website shortly. It's being revamped as we speak.
- 19:38And there'll be other offers coming with the second publication, which has
- 19:43the Rooted Soul Acceptance to Joy, has a special
- 19:47edition with Christmas poems in it, which I think people will like.
- 19:50And the first collection is only on special offer, £1.77 and euro equivalent for
- 19:54the ebook and £5 and euro equivalent for the paperback. And that will
- 19:59be until early November. So please, if you want
- 20:02to get a copy, you're never going to get it cheaper. And people do seem
- 20:05to have enjoyed it. So I thank you for tuning in this evening.
- 20:10And as always, better living within.