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Phillies Season Preview w/Ruben Amaro: Cristopher Sánchez deal details, Painter on Opening Day roster · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: We are joined now by our friend, former Phillies general
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  Speaker 1: manager and current co host of The Philly Show, Rubin
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  Speaker 1: Amaro Junior. Hello, good to see you. Big week for
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Painter. He makes the team and he gets engaged.
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  Speaker 1: What did the Phillies see about him that led him
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  Speaker 1: to break camp with the big club? Rubin?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's nice to see you guys.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what, I probably should be flipping my
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  Speaker 3: hat or how come I don't have the backwards hat
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  Speaker 3: look on the memo?
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  Speaker 2: What am I doing?
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  Speaker 4: You also missed out on on Philly Show on Thursday.
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  Speaker 4: You weren't there. Your two cos there, but you weren't there.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sort of on vacation here in Clearwater,
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  Speaker 3: my friend. It's golf and it's entertainment, but I am
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  Speaker 3: watching some baseball too, and I really enjoyed watching Andrew
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  Speaker 3: Painter pitch this spring. I mean, he handled himself extremely well. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: he's famous, he's been around for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's been touting him.
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  Speaker 3: Was one of the best pitching prospects since Paul Schemes.
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  Speaker 2: No disrespect to.
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  Speaker 3: Paul, but but this kid, he's got great stuff. He's
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  Speaker 3: got the body, he's got the mentality, he's got the maturity,
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  Speaker 3: and finally he's healthy. I know he didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: great season last year, but I think more about it
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  Speaker 3: was more about making sure that he was healthy through
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  Speaker 3: that that TJ that he had a couple of years back.
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  Speaker 3: So I like the way through the ball, particularly in
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  Speaker 3: his last outing, faced a very good lineup and through strikes.
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  Speaker 2: He's command seems better.
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  Speaker 3: They made a little minor adjustment in his delivery, got
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  Speaker 3: him closer and closer to where he was, you know,
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  Speaker 3: a few years back before he had the surgery, as
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  Speaker 3: far as his arm angle is concerned, and he's feeling
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  Speaker 3: confident throwing three or four quality pitches, and you know
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  Speaker 3: he's going to be pitching in the five hole for
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies. And I think that's one of the biggest strengths.
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  Speaker 5: They have when they When I saw him pitch before
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  Speaker 5: as Tommy John surgery that he had, I saw tall athletic,
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  Speaker 5: moved down down the hill really well and was able
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  Speaker 5: to command. Was that so easy to watch now that
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  Speaker 5: he's back, and then tough to watch because of the
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  Speaker 5: fact that he had command issues and were those command issues?
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  Speaker 5: Those questions asked or answered this spring training about the
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  Speaker 5: command issues against good enough competition, Like you just said.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little concerned about what he went
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  Speaker 3: through last year at Triple A because he didn't he
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  Speaker 3: didn't get a lot of swing a miss.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't get there.
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  Speaker 3: There was something going on, and I think that the
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  Speaker 3: folks here in Philadelphia, Caleb Coffam as the pitching coach,
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  Speaker 3: and their overall pitching development is very, very good here.
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  Speaker 3: They've seemed to pick apart some things that they saw
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  Speaker 3: that might get him back to where he was prior
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  Speaker 3: when you saw him and when I saw him the first.
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  Speaker 2: Time getting off the mountain.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about this kid that I have a lot
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  Speaker 3: of confidence in is that not only is he a
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  Speaker 3: super mature kid, but for a man this size and
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  Speaker 3: of this age, he actually and you guys know this,
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  Speaker 3: the better athlete you have, the better chance you have
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  Speaker 3: to be able to repeat your delivery and to get
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  Speaker 3: back to the command that you've had. At one point,
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  Speaker 3: my concern was whether he was going to be healthy enough.
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  Speaker 3: But it's clear that he's healthy. The ball's coming out
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  Speaker 3: of his hand great now. It's just a matter of
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  Speaker 3: him being able to make the adjustments of being a
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  Speaker 3: Major leaguer, and you know, that's a big one. It's
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  Speaker 3: a big adjustment. But I do think that he's got
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  Speaker 3: the poise, that he's got the confidence, and I also
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  Speaker 3: do believe that he has the athleticism, which is an
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  Speaker 3: important one for me to be able to, you know,
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  Speaker 3: to pitch well even when he may struggle at times Ruben.
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  Speaker 4: Another one of their starters that just was given a
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  Speaker 4: huge extension is Jonathan Sanchez. Now Jim Bowden, who I
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  Speaker 4: completely disagree with, is like, this is a terrible, terrible
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  Speaker 4: move for the Phillies. Why are they doing this? I
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  Speaker 4: love this for both sides. I love for Sanchez and
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  Speaker 4: I love it for the Phillies because you lock up
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  Speaker 4: a guy before a CBA all the things, whether he's
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  Speaker 4: a free agent, and he continues to get better and
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  Speaker 4: better and better every single year. Plus with who knows
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  Speaker 4: what's happening with Wheeler, you know, Nola's getting older. Lozardo
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  Speaker 4: signs an extension. So you have two guys locked up
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  Speaker 4: for many years. Now, you have Painter coming. What would
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  Speaker 4: you have done this as the GM when you were
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  Speaker 4: the GM of the Phillies And why is there hate
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  Speaker 4: about this? I would think Philly, especially Philly fans, should
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  Speaker 4: be rejoicing.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I totally agree with you, Aja, and yes I
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  Speaker 3: would have done this. I mean, this guy was under
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  Speaker 3: a great contract, but they didn't really tear it up.
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  Speaker 2: All they really did was add on a couple of years.
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  Speaker 3: There was no question in my mind that they were
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  Speaker 3: going to pick up that those two option option years anyway.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what Dave Dombrowski said, Like, why not tack
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  Speaker 3: on a couple of more years at a reasonable price.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is a guy who's an elite starter
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  Speaker 3: right now. Those guys are going for what forty million
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  Speaker 3: dollars a year, and so they've already got him at
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  Speaker 3: a great price.
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  Speaker 2: Add on a couple of years. This guy takes care
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  Speaker 2: of himself.
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  Speaker 3: His transformation might be one of the the coolest things
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  Speaker 3: I've seen in the history of me watching baseball. This
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  Speaker 3: is a guy who came to the big leagues from
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  Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Rays who was basically un armed.
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  Speaker 2: He was a thrower. M he's a rock thrower. We
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  Speaker 2: call him rock throwers.
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  Speaker 3: He had no idea where the ball was going to
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  Speaker 3: throw ninety seven ninety eight miles an hour, didn't really
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  Speaker 3: have a lot of you know didn't have any command
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  Speaker 3: of a secondary pitch. He now has one of the
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  Speaker 3: best change ups in the game, no disrespect to Terrek's scooble.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of the best left handers in the game,
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  Speaker 3: no disrespect to Terrek's scooble, and he is now developing
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  Speaker 3: a better and better slider that he can.
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  Speaker 2: Use as a little bit more of a put away pitch.
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  Speaker 2: He's a three pitch pitcher.
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  Speaker 3: He's an excellent athlete, he's a great kid, and he
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  Speaker 3: continues to strive to be great. I think this is
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  Speaker 3: a win win for both sides, and you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't see that all that often. I don't.
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  Speaker 3: I guess everybody wants to hate on every move that
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  Speaker 3: every team makes. They always have an opinion about it.
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  Speaker 3: But in my estimation, great move, and I applaud both
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  Speaker 3: Christopher Sanchez and the Phillies on this. It's a great thing. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: the best way to win baseball games. Guess what, guys,
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  Speaker 3: it's starting pitching. You gotta value that. The Phillies value it.
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  Speaker 3: They know that's an important part of what they what
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  Speaker 3: is going to make them successful, and they're keeping that
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  Speaker 3: window as wide open as they possibly can.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, I called him Jonathan, sorry before everyone
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  Speaker 4: kills me.
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  Speaker 5: I know it's Christopher. Sorry.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, sorry Phillies fans, sorry people in the chat,
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  Speaker 4: and we're talking about seven hundred and eighty million people
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  Speaker 4: plus all the guys who are getting sent down. Sorry,
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  Speaker 4: if everyone's want to make a mistake, Rubin, I apologize.
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  Speaker 4: I should just hear on TV they call their first
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  Speaker 4: or last name ain no room. But anyways, so would
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  Speaker 4: this mean so they have WIZARDO locked up, they have
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  Speaker 4: Sanchez now locked up, they have Nola for a few
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  Speaker 4: more years. Does this mean Painter could be next in
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  Speaker 4: line for an extension type of thing if he may.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll do it before the season starts,
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  Speaker 4: but let's say he gets off to a nice start.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's possible. I would think that they're at
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  Speaker 3: least discussing it amongst themselves. Again, you know the fact
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  Speaker 3: that he's had a TJ and how he comes through that.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's been a couple of years since he had it,
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  Speaker 3: and it seems like he's going to be healthy.
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  Speaker 2: But why not?
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  Speaker 3: Why not you know, build that you know that, build
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  Speaker 3: that roster with with quality young arms. I do think
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  Speaker 3: that the Phillies value the importance of starting pitching and
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  Speaker 3: uh and I think that's something that has been you know,
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  Speaker 3: the value of that has been mitigated over the last
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  Speaker 3: few years, and I think people are realizing, Hey, if
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  Speaker 3: I can cover a little bit more than half the
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  Speaker 3: innings with my starters, then I don't have to put
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  Speaker 3: the pressure on that bullpen as much. I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 3: it's there's danger to it, and there is risk because
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  Speaker 3: guys get hurt.
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  Speaker 2: It happens.
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  Speaker 3: But I think that the Phillies do a really good
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  Speaker 3: job of prehabbing, of keeping guys healthy and and I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised at all if they wouldn't consider Painter
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  Speaker 3: as a guy next in line for a long termers
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  Speaker 3: a GM.
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  Speaker 5: What is that process like for you? You obviously like
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  Speaker 5: the player, you know the player? Is it a hey,
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  Speaker 5: you know what ownership comes to you when you were
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  Speaker 5: there mister Montgomery, and now John Middleton comes to Dave
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  Speaker 5: don Browski and says, hey, we have some money to
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  Speaker 5: be able to lock up or does Dave den Browski say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: we'd like to lock him up based on this like
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  Speaker 5: you went to mister Montgomery when when you were the GM.
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  Speaker 5: What's that process like before you even get to the
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  Speaker 5: player's actual extension.
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  Speaker 3: Typically we get together with the boys in the office
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  Speaker 3: and we start thinking about, okay, long term, what is
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  Speaker 3: this guy's make up, Like, is this guy going to
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  Speaker 3: continue to try to be the best.
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  Speaker 2: Player he can be? Is he a winning player?
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  Speaker 3: Is the make up the kind of guy that we
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  Speaker 3: want to put this money into long term, because you know,
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  Speaker 3: we wanted to develop winning players. And so once we
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  Speaker 3: started having those discussions, then we looked at comps, you know,
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  Speaker 3: long term deals, what the marketplace is bearing right now,
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  Speaker 3: and then try to set up.
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  Speaker 2: Something that that made some sense.
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  Speaker 3: And then and at that point we'd probably start to
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  Speaker 3: go to our you know, to to the owner to
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  Speaker 3: ownership group, whether we John Middleton or or Dave David
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  Speaker 3: Montgomery when I was at the Helm and discuss it
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  Speaker 3: and you know, basically give them our memo, Hey, these
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  Speaker 3: are our thought this is the thought process, this is
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  Speaker 3: why we think this is the right thing for this player,
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  Speaker 3: and why it was something that we did with several
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  Speaker 3: players while I was an assistant GM and a GM.
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  Speaker 2: Chase Suttley obviously did it with Howard.
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  Speaker 3: We did it with a bunch of guys, and we
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  Speaker 3: thought it was important to be able to lock up
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  Speaker 3: our homegrown players that we knew were winning type players.
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  Speaker 3: But the makeup was a really really important part of this,
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  Speaker 3: because you don't sign Cole Hamil's if you don't think
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  Speaker 3: that Cole Hamil's is who he is. And so those
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  Speaker 3: were some of the things that we thought were extremely important. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: the health and all that stuff is part of it,
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  Speaker 3: and the risk is there, but you certainly don't you
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  Speaker 3: feel comfortable more comfortable about a guy who you know
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  Speaker 3: wants to win and to be great, And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's an important.
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  Speaker 2: Element here, Rubin.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when Carl Crawford got traded from the Red
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  Speaker 1: Sox to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Justin was running around
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  Speaker 1: the clubhouse at like a seven eight nine year old kid.
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  Speaker 1: Now Here we are with the excitement of Justin Crawford
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  Speaker 1: making the team. Why should we be excited about this
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  Speaker 1: young man that literally grew up before our eyes.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of reasons. One the pedigree.
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  Speaker 2: There's no question a lot of this is guy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, his dad was a really really good player
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  Speaker 3: in the major leagues for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: But not just that this is a great kit.
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  Speaker 3: This kid respects the game, he plays hard, He's got talent.
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  Speaker 2: He is a game changer with his legs.
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  Speaker 3: I had a concern about whether or not he could
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  Speaker 3: be an everyday center and fielder. But he did work
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  Speaker 3: in the offseason with Eric Davis, who knows baseball and
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  Speaker 3: knows the outfield quite well, and the guys here Paco
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  Speaker 3: figueroa excellent outfield coach as well.
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  Speaker 2: He looks terrific in the outfield.
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  Speaker 3: You know how difficult it is in spring training, either
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  Speaker 3: in Arizona with that high sky or here in in
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  Speaker 3: Florida where the sun and the wind is will affect
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  Speaker 3: the baseball. He's handled himself extremely well. I love his angles.
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  Speaker 3: I like the way he throws the ball. He's got
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  Speaker 3: a very good arm. He's not one of those speedsters
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  Speaker 3: I can't throw. I think his instinct for the game
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  Speaker 3: has been very good. I had some concerns about whether,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because they didn't bring him up last year
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  Speaker 3: and they had sort of had a need, but he
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  Speaker 3: got hurt during that time in July and so never
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  Speaker 3: got to the big leagues. My concern was whether he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be able to handle being a championship caliber outfielder
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: He's showing he can do that.
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  Speaker 3: As far as his offense is concerned, I wouldn't mess
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  Speaker 3: with him at all.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: People who are talking about, you know, making sure that
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  Speaker 3: he hits the ball around too much. Well, guess what,
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  Speaker 3: that's a that's one of the elements that makes him
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  Speaker 3: a you know, very distinctive player. He's got enough pop
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  Speaker 3: and will continue to develop his quote unquote man strength.
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  Speaker 3: But this is a guy that for me is Gooa
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  Speaker 3: got a chance to be a really good quality overall
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  Speaker 3: major league player. And guess what, He's hitting in a
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  Speaker 3: nine hole in this in this lineup, and they don't
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  Speaker 3: really need him to be a three hundred hitter and
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  Speaker 3: have an ops of you know, nine p fifty. They
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  Speaker 3: just need him to play solid defense. They need him
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  Speaker 3: to get on base, create a little havoc on the
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  Speaker 3: base pass, and I think this kid's got a chance
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  Speaker 3: to be a good one.
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  Speaker 5: To that point, I have to ask about the batting
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  Speaker 5: order if you go a left handed I mean, there
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  Speaker 5: was talk about who was gonna hit first, Is it
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  Speaker 5: gonna be Tray whatever? With that type of speed, do
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  Speaker 5: they fear that they're gonna put him in a bad
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  Speaker 5: spot if there's too many lefties at the top of
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  Speaker 5: the order. Then they're just gonna bring in a left
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  Speaker 5: he to face him. Even though it's, you know, the
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  Speaker 5: nine hitter, you're still getting that bad platoon advantage is
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  Speaker 5: they talk about possibly shifting maybe somebody that can handle
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  Speaker 5: left and left a little bit better, a Bryson Stott
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  Speaker 5: that goes into the ninth hole like.
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  Speaker 3: That, You know, I think they I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: stay with him in the ninth hole because I think
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  Speaker 3: they have the confidence and he can handle left handers.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he's a guy that stays on the ball,
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  Speaker 3: he tries to make contact. He doesn't not a big
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  Speaker 3: strikeout guy. He'll strike out just like everybody else. But
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  Speaker 3: I think he hangs in there pretty well. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: obviously you got a chance to go and the ninth hole,
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  Speaker 3: you'll probably go with him. They're gonna lead off with
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  Speaker 3: Trey anyway, so it's gonna be Trey and probably I
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  Speaker 3: think they have the lineup out here today that's gonna
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  Speaker 3: be the opening day lineup where it's gonna be Schwarber
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  Speaker 3: and then Harper and then Alec Bowman. Then they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: go left right all the way down. The line against
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  Speaker 3: the right hander, so I think that they'll be fine
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  Speaker 3: with him in the ninth hole. Trey will probably be
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  Speaker 3: hit in the one hole. Imagine those two guys on
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  Speaker 3: the base path at the same time. You got, you know, Crawford,
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  Speaker 3: who can really run. Trey Turner obviously one of the
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  Speaker 3: fastest guys in the game. That could give them the
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  Speaker 3: Phillies a little bit different element.
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  Speaker 2: They run the.
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  Speaker 3: Bases o and they do steal some bases, but this
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  Speaker 3: will give him this team a little bit more of
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  Speaker 3: an element, not just power.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna take a Charlie Manual quote, Well, well, well,
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  Speaker 5: schwar Schwarber can drive him in from the parking lot.
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  Speaker 5: I don't. I don't want them to steal bases. So
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  Speaker 5: there's a little bit of that that you got to
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  Speaker 5: be able to make sure that you know you're not
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  Speaker 5: out so that Schwarber can drive you in. My last
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  Speaker 5: question on the Phillies lineup, everybody's gonna say, all they
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  Speaker 5: just ran it back. Is this still a good lineup?
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  Speaker 2: It's still a good quality lineup. I mean they're not.
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  Speaker 3: They were fifth in in all of baseball in most categories.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is a team that that with the
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: overall development of two very very important guys. One is
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: Bryson Stott you mentioned them early. The other is Brandon Marsh.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Those guys in the second half of the season had
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: excellent number.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Look him up.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Uh, you had Bryce and Stott with a you know
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: from the from the last half of the season. On
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: made a hand adjustment in swing. He's more direct to
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: the baseball. He had like an eight to fifty ops
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: from the from the second half on. Same thing with
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Brandon Marsh. He started to gain some confidence in his stuff.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: I do believe that they'll protect him by not having
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: him face a ton left handers, but he's a guy
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: that I think is also developing.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: If they both.
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: Swing the bat closer to what they did in the
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: second half next year, this team's got a chance to
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: be a number top two or three lineup in all
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Rubin Philadelphia is a wonderful place. It is also a
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: place with high expectations. If there is any sort of
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: pressure on Rob Thompson, what is it.
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, obviously to win, and there's no question
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: about it. These guys are built to win and they
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: want to win. But Rob Thompson, he understands it. I
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: mean he's been in New York, he's been in Philadelphia.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: He understands the big markets. But he's going to be
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the same guy. I think he's continuing to learn. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: think the addition of Don Mattingly in that dugout is
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: an outstanding addition. Addition, I don't think he cares about it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I think that phases him.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: People think that, well, they hired Don Manningly that in case,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: you know, they have to fire Rob Thompson, they get
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: off to a slow start. I don't think Rob Thompson
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: gives two craps about it, to be honest with you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: I think he cares about being a good manager, being
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: able to manage his team to the best of his ability,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: and got a lot of respect for him. If there's
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of pressure there in Philadelphia, there's no question
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: about it. But hey, you'd rather have pressure rather have
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: a good team and the expectation of being a good team.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: And I think Rob welcomes that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: We had Donny baseball on just the other day when
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: we were at Clearwater Camp and just hit a little
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: bit for me on what he brings to that staff
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: that they were lacking in the last few years.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's just credibility, man. I mean, listen, they
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: have a really great coaching staff. I mentioned Caleb Cotham,
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Dusty watt In at third base, Popco Frigueroa on the
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: base pass at first base, in the outfield.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I think that they have a very very strong staff.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: What they did not have is someone who had been
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: there and done it at the major league level. So
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: not a lot of those guys on that staff were
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: major leaguers and were established major.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Leaguers as players.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Donnie's done it all. He's managed, he was as a
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Hall of.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Fame type player. He has a great demeanor.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: I loved watching him manage the Miami Ball Club when
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: he was with the faller of Florida Marlins. They played
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: the game right, and I used to talk to him
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: a lot when I was either broadcasting or in the
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: front office or what have you. It was great to
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: watch him work because his players played and they respected
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: him and respected the game. And anytime you can add
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame person and a Hall of Fame
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: player to your staff, that's just gonna make you all
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: that much better, and hopefully you know it, just it
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: makes Rob Thompson even better. And I'm sure he welcomed that.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: He's had a great relationship with him over the years
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: from New York to now, and uh, I think it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: just a terrific addition to this ball club.
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: Do you have an opening day tradition, like you go
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: and get like some type of some type of barbecue
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: in the stands, or now there's Manco Manco pizza, you
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: get some Manco Manco. Do you have a opening day tradition?
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Or you're gonna be across the street with Ben Davis
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: or Barkan or one of those guys.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: I'm across the street with the boys, Ricky bo, Ben Davis,
• 19:29
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• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I pretty much wear the same dark blue suit with
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: a red tie and my little pee pin, the pledge pin.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Pledge pin, remember that guy's anyway, that's that's the one
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: that I use pretty much every single opening day.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Having been with the Phillies for so many years.
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  Speaker 1: All right, it is time now for our bet MGM
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  Speaker 1: League division winners. You can take a look at the
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  Speaker 1: bet MGM futures al East Division winner Yankees at plus
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: one to eighty, going all the way down to the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Rays at plus twenty five hundred. So let's start there
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: with the East Division winner. Eric, what say you?
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: I said, there's just not enough value here, unless unless
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: you go with the Orioles, which I don't think they
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: have enough to win the division. I think they could
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: be a playoff team. Just not enough value. I don't think.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think the Red Sox have enough have enough
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: offense for me, I guess at plus three hundred. If
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: they were giving me the Red Sox at plus four hundred,
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: I would definitely take it. But I still think it's
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: the rede I think it's the Blue Jays or Yankees
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: division here.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: AJ should the Blue Jays be ahead of the Yanks
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: With what we talked about at the top of the show, days.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Did win the division last year? No, the Yankees are
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: getting back. Garrett Cole at some point. They're gonna get
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Rodon back at some point, I mean. But also let's
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: not forget. You know, they're trying to entice people. They
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: don't want to put the Yankees too high because then
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: they'll if the Yankees do win the division, they lose money.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: So let's also not forget how this works.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: But I think that, yes, the Blue jay.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Should be ahead of them, but they're not, And that's fine.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: That's fine, But I kind of agree with there. There's
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: not a ton of value on this list. The Blue
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Jays would be, for me the one because they did
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: win the division last year. The Red Sox aren't high enough.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: The Oriols maybe, but I still I don't know that
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: the Orioles are better than the third best team in
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: this division when all is said and done, just because
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: I still worry about their pitching a little bit. So
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I had to take one, I would
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: take the Blue Jays and throw one hundred to win
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: two sixty. That's still a nice little payday.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yankees, Blue Jay's, Red Sox, Orioles raise in that order.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Al Central Division winner Tigers. I guess, no real surprise here, guys.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: At plus one ten, the Royals at plus two twenty five,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: going all the way down to AJ's White Sox at
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: plus three thousand. That seems high for the White Sox.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: What say you, e K, I'm gonna go Royals here, Okay.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: And I'm not saying. I'm not saying I'm locking it
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: in that the Royals are going to win it, but
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I think it's close enough to say they would win
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: it at plus two twenty five. Yes, the Guardians came
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: out of nowhere because of the Tigers collapse. To me,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: I think the Tigers. If you're making me choose a team,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I'm taking the Tigers. But again, when I look at
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: some of these numbers, I gotta I gotta find value,
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: and I think I looked it up. The Royals were
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: paying out at plus one hundred, so straight even money
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: to make the playoffs, So I'll take that. I think
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: it's going to be the Tigers and Royals all year.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: I think both teams improved. I think the Tigers didn't
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: you know, are they going to make the adjustment that
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: they didn't make in the second half offensively, because it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: it was a good offense in the first half. Probably
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: after even you know, even a little past the first half.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: It was a good offense, but they collapsed. Are they
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: going to take that collapse or their new pitching rotation
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: additions and Valdez and and Verlander going to help them?
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: I think so. But the value is definitely there for
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: me to put something on the Royals.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Aj Pierzinski. What if the Chicago White Sox shocked the world.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: I just did Barstool Chicago podcast saying and they were
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: talking about that, and it would be a shock, that's
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: for sure, especially in this division. But the Guardians to me,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: are the team that they won the division last year,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: didn't they? I'm pretty sure the Guardians.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Won after the collapse by the Tigers.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: And by the way, how are the White Sox so
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: far behind the Twins? What if the Twins for this
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: offseason and they traded away like Ano their team last year,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: and the White Sox are behind the Twins in this
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: That's what's funny to me. Other than that, Yeah, I mean,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I guess the Royals would be the one. The Tigers
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: are the favorites clearly, but why not The Guardians always
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: seem to find a way. And Steven votes going for
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: the three Peters, manager of the year.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: If the White Sox Alana, if the White Sox do
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: win this division, the money, the money that AJ is
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: going to get after putting one hundred down and winning
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: three thousand, is not going to is gonna be the
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: least of our issues. It's still not going to pay
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: for meals. Two. We're gonna have an entire year of
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: hearing look at the White Sox. I knew it this
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: whole time. And then AJ is going to be going
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: to Chicago showing us.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: If you want to you want a World Series where
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and donning that uniform, you get that ring, You get
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the right to be insufferable when your team in which
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you helped win a World Series.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: Even if the team doesn't want him back. Just the fans, Oh.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: They want him back. They want him back. They're not
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: a vocal about it, but they do.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't want it?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Look at this guy. Look who doesn't want this guy back?
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: That's Susan Schlusser said, prickly, prickly.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That's all right, prickly, I think you need to be pretty.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: Ten years I wasn't that prickly. Nah, all right, and
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: your two thousand hits, your two thousand hits, say say
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: you keep it around for nineteen years.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Last division in the American League the West Marin Mari
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Narros Marinaidos minus one oh five, Astros plus two seven
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: five all the way down to the Angels plus four thousand,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: so even worse odds than the White Sox. Like this,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: not like this, This one's fine.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: This one's good.
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: That the Mariner should be heavy favorites in this division.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: And I would almost I would. I would almost put
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: the Rangers that Rangers are the one to me for
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: for the money, that have a better show. I would
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: put the Rangers above the Astros just because again other
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: than after Hunter Brown and the Astros rotation, who you
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: got the biggest thing for me? And you know Altove
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: was on the bus column. Jeremy Peney is hurt right,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: what is what is Alvarez gonna give him? Carlos Korea
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: coming off his thing and that all you know that
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: we just learned about. Yeah, I would almost want to
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: put the Rangers with the Graham Ivaldi Mackenzie Gore to
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: start out the season, start out a rotation, and that's skip.
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: Schumacher has been known to take teams with lesser talent
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: and lesser things and make them pretty good. See the
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Marlins before they let him go for No, only god
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: knows why. Uh, but yeah would for me. The Rangers
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: are the one in this But I mean, I think
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: the Marriners win this division. But if you're gonna, if
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: you need need to bet on a team in this division,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: it's the Rangers.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: What is more likely that the Angels win the division
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: or the White Sox win the division?
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: More more unlikely, more unlikely? Oh, the Angels, They're in
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: a much better division. I mean the White Sox. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: think both teams just are are short. They're short on
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: the season. The Angels, I think I have a more
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: talented team, but they're in a tougher division. To me,
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: I think the best value of any of these three
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: boards that we just had up is exactly what AJ said.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: The Rangers. It's a team that underperformed last year. It's
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: a team that was still kind of in it at
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: certain points. And do I think they're going to take
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: the Mariners? No?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Do?
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: I think the Astros have so many question marks in
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: their rotation. Like AJ said after Hunter Brown, you know
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: my come you got you got guys coming off of injuries.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: You have just question marks still a winning team. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: think those top three teams are going to be over
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: five hundred. Can the Rangers do enough? Can the change
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: in bringing Nemo in and you know, having a little
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: bit more of a younger athletic infield, is that going
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: to help? Well, you lose Marcus Simion's defense, So to me,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: it's the Mariner's Division. But I think there's the most
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: value of any of these division winners that we're picking
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: in the Rangers.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: All right, tune in tomorrow. Scott will take you guys
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