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Black Lives Matter · The Bechdel Cast

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Bechtel Cast. My name is Jamie,
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  Speaker 1: my name is Caitlin, and Uh, it's been a fucking week.
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  Speaker 1: If you're listening to this the day and week it
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  Speaker 1: comes out, you'll certainly know why. There has been massive
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  Speaker 1: demonstrations for the Black Lives Matter movement in response to
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  Speaker 1: the murder of George Floyd, of Brianna Taylor, of Ahmad
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  Speaker 1: are Y, and and on and on in the past week,
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  Speaker 1: and there has been just truly a huge burst in
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  Speaker 1: righteous anger in issues that have been, you know, brewing
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  Speaker 1: in American history for as long as American history has
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  Speaker 1: been happening. So if you're listening to this episode when
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  Speaker 1: it comes out, you know that already, and if you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to this episode in the future, you also know that.
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  Speaker 1: So we we were genuinely like, not sure she'll be
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  Speaker 1: released an episode this week? Does it make sense for
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  Speaker 1: us to do? But we decided that that we should.
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  Speaker 1: It's not obviously it's not going to be a normal episode.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna be talking about uh movie this week,
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  Speaker 1: but we will be talking because we want to respect
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we have a platform and we have
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  Speaker 1: listeners that we've found over the over the years. Are
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  Speaker 1: are are I mean, our listeners are the best and
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  Speaker 1: and we've learned so much from you. And it sounds like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that goes both ways, and we want to
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  Speaker 1: continue to do that through everything and and so here
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  Speaker 1: we are. Yeah, so more or less, we wanted to
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  Speaker 1: take this opportunity to just provide information about resources, things
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  Speaker 1: you can do to be a better ally, things you
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  Speaker 1: can do to be actively anti racist, places you can
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  Speaker 1: donate to, things like that. So we are are Jamie said, UM,
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  Speaker 1: we're using our platform to inform and educate and hopefully yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully you'll you'll find So I know, there's so much
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  Speaker 1: information going around already. I'm sure you already have heard
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  Speaker 1: uh different things you can do. Um, but no harm
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  Speaker 1: in spreading more information as long as that information is good. So, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we're doing today. And we also want to
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  Speaker 1: just I guess publicly express our our continued commitment to
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  Speaker 1: doing better. And you know, I mean, I mean, from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of this show, I think that we have
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  Speaker 1: both learned so much in so many areas of analysis,
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  Speaker 1: but especially with this show, I think that I've I've
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  Speaker 1: personally learned a ton through our guests and through our
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  Speaker 1: research and through our talks about the importance of intersectionalism,
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  Speaker 1: where you know, we started this show with the idea
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  Speaker 1: of we want to analyze movies from a feminist perspective.
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  Speaker 1: And feminism is wonderful and we are deeply committed to it,
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  Speaker 1: but it has deeply entrenched roots in erasing black women,
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  Speaker 1: and erasing all non white women, and and only servicing
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  Speaker 1: white women, and and so it's inexcusable. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that it's so cooked into even the core of feminist
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  Speaker 1: rhetoric races so much, and particularly black women and particularly
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  Speaker 1: non white and queer women. I mean, we we are
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  Speaker 1: committed to doing better. And to all of our listeners,
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  Speaker 1: we appreciate you being on the ride with us. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I personally really love how great our listeners
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  Speaker 1: have been over the years about just you know, checking
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  Speaker 1: us when we funk up, and it genuinely helps, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that I know that it will continue to help.
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  Speaker 1: So for sure, first we just want to express, particularly
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  Speaker 1: to our black listeners, but to all of our listeners,
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  Speaker 1: a huge amount of love and just the open line
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  Speaker 1: of communication. We're here, we're listening. We want to do better.
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  Speaker 1: For you and we want to do better by you,
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  Speaker 1: and so we love you when we're here. Yes, indeed,
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  Speaker 1: and thank you again for your patients with us as
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  Speaker 1: we have grown and you know, just try to navigate
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  Speaker 1: our jobs, you know. Um, it's been so helpful the
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  Speaker 1: feedback that we've gotten over the years. Of course, we
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  Speaker 1: do have blind spots that we've been working diligently to
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  Speaker 1: make more and more narrow over the course of the show. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but any guidance is still helpful. Not that it's should be,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your responsibility or burden to like as oh no,
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  Speaker 1: we've ventured a dangerous on I mean there. It's never
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  Speaker 1: been on our listeners to educate us. But when our
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  Speaker 1: listeners have felt like, you know, hey, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: take this opportunity to say you're fucking wrong and here
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  Speaker 1: is what you need to know, you know what, we
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  Speaker 1: will never you know, come at our fan base being
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  Speaker 1: like educated us we're idiots, but but we do appreciate
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  Speaker 1: when you know, we it's it's the para social relationship
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  Speaker 1: of a lifetime that we're on right now, and from
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of our hearts, it does mean a lot
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  Speaker 1: to us. When if we funk up and you know
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  Speaker 1: you're able to check us and want to. It's really helpful.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, I think that what you just brought up,
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin is a great point that even in the past
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  Speaker 1: like week of you know, everything that's been going around
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  Speaker 1: of there's definitely been, uh a mini pandemic of non
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  Speaker 1: black people asking black people to educate on what they
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  Speaker 1: should have understood going into this situation, which if it's
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  Speaker 1: something you're considering doing, do not do it. It is
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  Speaker 1: you have access to all the same resources you have
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  Speaker 1: Google dot com. And it is on us to educate
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  Speaker 1: ourselves period. It is not someone else's job to tell
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  Speaker 1: you what you're getting wrong. Um. Which is the first
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  Speaker 1: resource that I would like to bring up, And also
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  Speaker 1: we will be posting all of these resources to our
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  Speaker 1: Twitter and our Instagram. UM. We already have stuff going,
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  Speaker 1: but we'll continue adding stuff. But the first resource that
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to share are from two activists named Brianna
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  Speaker 1: Wallace and Autumn Gupta, and it was shared by a
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  Speaker 1: friend of the cast io at Debris. Who is I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you've heard her episode, you're already in love with
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  Speaker 1: her or you were in love with her because of
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  Speaker 1: the millions of wonderful comedy things she's done, but she
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  Speaker 1: shared this particular resource um from Brianna Wallace and Autumn Gupta.
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's the statement that goes with the project. It says, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: our names are Brianna and Autumn and we're a dynamic
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  Speaker 1: duo committed to the mission of spreading truth, love and awareness.
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  Speaker 1: Spearheaded by Autumn. We've created this detailed resource that compiles
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  Speaker 1: ways to learn inform an act to support those in
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  Speaker 1: the black community. Check it out, share, we post, blow
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  Speaker 1: it up. And what it is is truly wonderful. I
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  Speaker 1: have already started doing it myself, but it is a
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  Speaker 1: Google doc that we will link you to. It is
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  Speaker 1: called Justice in June and it is a lesson plan
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  Speaker 1: for non black people on how to become better allies.
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  Speaker 1: It is truly a gigantic act of service that this
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  Speaker 1: has been made available for free. There's three lesson plans available.
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  Speaker 1: There's ten minutes a day, twenty five minutes a day,
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  Speaker 1: forty five minutes a day, depending on where your life
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  Speaker 1: is at right now, how much time do you have
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  Speaker 1: to do this? Brianna and Autumn have you covered so?
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  Speaker 1: I highly highly highly recommend there's an inside of this
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  Speaker 1: Google doc. In this lesson plan alone, there are hundreds
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  Speaker 1: of pieces of media, of speeches, of literature, of of movies,
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  Speaker 1: of just truly the full spectrum of educational materials that
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  Speaker 1: that they've made available. And literally all it takes is
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  Speaker 1: to start the commitment of the month of June to
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  Speaker 1: educate yourself and to better understand. So I would as
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  Speaker 1: as someone currently three days deep into the program, it's
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  Speaker 1: wonderful and and we will link that resource to you.
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  Speaker 1: I have already found it to be extremely helpful. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean the work, the work is on us. I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to get started. So that's that's my first resource. Again,
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  Speaker 1: if this is stuff you already know, feel free to
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  Speaker 1: just you know, come back next week. But if this
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  Speaker 1: is new information for you, please hang out. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: we would love to pass along the resources that we
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  Speaker 1: have aggregated or already had. And when I pass it along,
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  Speaker 1: so the next thing that we want to direct you
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  Speaker 1: to is mutual funds and bail funds. So hopefully, as
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  Speaker 1: a listener, you you already understand that black Americans are
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  Speaker 1: incarcerated at astronomically higher rates than truly anyone else they're
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  Speaker 1: brutalized more, they're treated like. The way that these protests
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  Speaker 1: have played out has been no exception. And so if
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  Speaker 1: you are either at a protest and want to continue
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  Speaker 1: to do more, or you are not able to be
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  Speaker 1: at a protest, you're not near one, you're not whatever
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  Speaker 1: it is, Donating to a bail fund is an incredibly
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  Speaker 1: helpful way to cause an impact in an immediate sense.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that I'm sure you've you've seen this happening,
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  Speaker 1: being arrested for literally nothing. It's been extremely humbling for
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  Speaker 1: me because I've been you know, I just I've been
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  Speaker 1: sheltered by my skin for my entire life, and in
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  Speaker 1: the past week of being like seeing police brutality happened firsthand.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you've been extremely online during this time,
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  Speaker 1: you understand that what happens at the protests and what
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  Speaker 1: is reflected in the media is quite different, and that
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  Speaker 1: there are thousands of people being arrested for no reason.
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  Speaker 1: A wonderful way you can help right away is to
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  Speaker 1: donate to a mutual aid or bail fund. And we
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  Speaker 1: have in our Twitter and in our Instagram a link
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  Speaker 1: to a list of nationwide and some in Canada. As
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  Speaker 1: well UH mutual aid and l funds where you can
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  Speaker 1: give right now. We have already been doing so with
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  Speaker 1: our Patreon money and our personal money. We will continue
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  Speaker 1: to do so. But it is an incredible, incredible way
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  Speaker 1: to cause an immediate impact, and I would extend that
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  Speaker 1: to UH will link these as well, but keeping an
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  Speaker 1: eye out for the families of those impacted, and we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about Brianna Taylor, who there is still as of
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  Speaker 1: this recording, been no arrests made in an association with
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  Speaker 1: her murder by police, and this goes on and on.
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  Speaker 1: But but also we will also be uh reposting and
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  Speaker 1: sharing the go fund mes and and the ways you
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  Speaker 1: can support people who have been extremely impacted by the
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  Speaker 1: past week through through bell fund, through go fund me,
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  Speaker 1: is through cash apps. UM. This also extends to and
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  Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we're acknowledging the black
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  Speaker 1: trans community who are again brutalize and mistreated by the
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  Speaker 1: police and by our society at abnormally high rate. UH.
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  Speaker 1: In this past week alone, Ayanna Dior was beaten by
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  Speaker 1: a mob in Minneapolis, and Tony McDade, a black trans man,
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  Speaker 1: was shot and killed by police just in the past week.
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  Speaker 1: There are also fundraising efforts going on for them, and
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  Speaker 1: there's also fundraising efforts going on for the black trans
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  Speaker 1: community at large that we will share with you. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: another thing that I would encourage people too. I think
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  Speaker 1: that there's a lot of ways to be an activist
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  Speaker 1: right now, and the immediate ways are donate and show
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  Speaker 1: up at a protest if you're physically able to show
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  Speaker 1: up at a protest. These are the most immediate ways
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  Speaker 1: that you can make an impact. But another it's committing
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  Speaker 1: yourself to a long game as well. Where to to
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  Speaker 1: paraphrase our dear friend, friend of the cast, friend of
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  Speaker 1: our life, Miles Gray, something that he expressed on the
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  Speaker 1: dailies like Guist today was just the sentiment that this
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  Speaker 1: is a long game and if you're committing yourself to
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  Speaker 1: performing on social media for a week, that will show
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  Speaker 1: and being an ally is a journey and it involves
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  Speaker 1: fucking up. I think that that is something that people
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  Speaker 1: are afraid to do a lot, especially on social media,
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  Speaker 1: like no one wants to, you know, make a mistake,
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  Speaker 1: But we did it. We we posted a black square
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  Speaker 1: before realizing wait, that's like counterproductive. That was not a
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  Speaker 1: helpful thing for us to do you know, and that,
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  Speaker 1: and and so for for those of you that have
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  Speaker 1: made those missteps and those mistakes, we have also made
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  Speaker 1: those mistakes, and we won't back off from those mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: We will say that we were fucking wrong and it
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  Speaker 1: was not helpful and it was not a productive use
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  Speaker 1: of our platform. But mistakes are constantly made. The question
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  Speaker 1: is are you willing to learn from them? Are you
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  Speaker 1: willing to like put your ego aside and commit to
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  Speaker 1: accountable Yeah, in in the long game, right, I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are are hesitant to speak up
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  Speaker 1: or to engage in anything of what's going on for
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  Speaker 1: fear of making missteps and and and I think there's
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  Speaker 1: a hesitancy to engage with a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: just need to understand that. Yeah, Like what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: Jamie is nobody is perfect. Mistakes will be made, but
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  Speaker 1: you can't let that stop you from trying because putting
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  Speaker 1: in the work, putting in the effort is vital. You
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  Speaker 1: don't want to take the um I thought immediately of
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  Speaker 1: Sofia Coppola directing the Big Guild, like you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to take that approach of like, well, I don't under
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  Speaker 1: stay I'm not a black person, so I can't I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to erase black people because I might misrepresent them,
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  Speaker 1: and that's that is absolutely the wrong approach. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: answer is always to just educate yourself. It's not easy,
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  Speaker 1: like and and sometimes it's like it is like a
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  Speaker 1: humbling experience, like you're gonna fuck up. I over the
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  Speaker 1: years have funked up. We all have, of course, but
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  Speaker 1: but I think it is truly committing to the journey
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  Speaker 1: and committing to like taking ship. If you funk up, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's all. That's all I really have
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  Speaker 1: to say that. It is like you're gonna sunk up.
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  Speaker 1: And if you funk up, continue to educate yourself. I
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  Speaker 1: think that, like the most one of the most common
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  Speaker 1: mistakes is to just double down on being like I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have been wrong, I'm woke, I'm great. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: if you're like a white lady, you're gonna funk up. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if you're trying to speak two issues that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have personal experience with, you need to listen and you
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  Speaker 1: need to go in with the expectation that you don't
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  Speaker 1: have the perspective you're not going to get it right
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  Speaker 1: and that you know, just accept it going in, leave
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  Speaker 1: your ego at the door, and educate yourself. Yes, that's
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  Speaker 1: just it is listening. It's listening. It's being receptive to
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  Speaker 1: constructive feedback. It is talking with your families. It's talking
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  Speaker 1: to your fucking families. It's it's just getting started. You
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  Speaker 1: can think you have a woke family, and then you
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  Speaker 1: ask the one follow up question and you're like, you
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  Speaker 1: give how much of a ship about a billionaire's property?
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  Speaker 1: And it goes on, like, commit to having the hard discussion.
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  Speaker 1: Be in it for the long game. It's not one conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It's never going to be one conversation. It's not going
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  Speaker 1: to be one hang up. It's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: one family gathering when and if we're ever allowed to
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  Speaker 1: gather again. It's it is a lot of conversations. It
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  Speaker 1: is a long term commitment, indeed, but it's important. It's
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  Speaker 1: you gotta fucking do it. I mean, it's it's being
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  Speaker 1: willing to be uncomfortable, to be personally uncomfortable to get
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  Speaker 1: something larger accomplished another place. If you're looking for other
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  Speaker 1: places to donate, um, there are a number of wonderful
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  Speaker 1: black mental health organizations that have been fundraising UM in
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  Speaker 1: the past. There's several threats. I've found IOH has another
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  Speaker 1: wonderful one, but one that I have known about previously,
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  Speaker 1: and and set up a recurring donation. That's another thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to keep your little ass accountable, make
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  Speaker 1: it a recurring donation. Okay, to commit like we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about called commitments, sweetie. But the boris Lawrence Henson
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  Speaker 1: Foundation that is set up by Taragi p Henson UM
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  Speaker 1: in memory of I believe her brother UH is a
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  Speaker 1: an organization completely committed to advancing UM black mental health
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  Speaker 1: in on a person to person sense in a larger
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  Speaker 1: sense of educating and is wonderful. If there's what we
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  Speaker 1: will also link to a number of these threads. Um BEAM,
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  Speaker 1: the Black Emotional and Mental Health Collective is another nonprofit
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  Speaker 1: that is wonderful to give to, and so we will
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  Speaker 1: shore we will share all the resources that we have
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  Speaker 1: on on that topic as well. Yes, indeed, since we
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: are a movie podcast, don't know if you've heard listeners UM,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to speak a little bit to some movies
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  Speaker 1: and other types of media you can consume to help
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  Speaker 1: with your ongoing education. So this is a graphic that's
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  Speaker 1: been shared a lot, but in case you haven't seen it,
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  Speaker 1: it comes from we got it from we well we
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  Speaker 1: we originally found it from Addie wi Ridge uh future
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  Speaker 1: guest of um. But yes, it was aggregated by Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Flicker and Melissa Klein. This is a list of
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  Speaker 1: films to consume. These are ones on netflicks do with films.
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  Speaker 1: These are ones that are available at the time of
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  Speaker 1: this recording streaming on Netflix by Ava Duvernet Um which
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  Speaker 1: not to brag or anything, but I just rewatched last
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  Speaker 1: night And a side note, I went on a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a Twitter rant last night speaking to how
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  Speaker 1: influential media is. Right of you to go on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: at this trying time Citland, congratulations, UM, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: But because sometimes I question the career I've made for myself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, movies, movies aren't important. Why do I like
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  Speaker 1: movies so much? But then I remember, Yeah, there's a
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  Speaker 1: larger discussion for us to be had, um in the
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  Speaker 1: future about how truely I mean, we've we've alluded to it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever had like a really, really,
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  Speaker 1: really in depth discussion about it, but how you know,
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  Speaker 1: the propaganda around cops and the good cop and the
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  Speaker 1: bad apple mentality. Um starts with the media we consume
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  Speaker 1: as children, along with other things. But it is a
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  Speaker 1: large contributing factor that will continue to discuss on the
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  Speaker 1: show for sure, which it goes to show how influential media,
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  Speaker 1: including film is. A lot of people will make the argument, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a movie, you can't take it seriously. Movies.
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  Speaker 1: You know, people aren't affected by what they see in
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  Speaker 1: the movies or what they see on TV or you know,
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  Speaker 1: the video games and stuff like that. And of course
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  Speaker 1: we've you know, demonstrated over the course of the years
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  Speaker 1: of doing the podcast that it is not. Yes. Um So,
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  Speaker 1: in watching last night, I was reminded of a very
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  Speaker 1: horrifying bit of information, which was that after the simply
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  Speaker 1: awful racist abomination of a movie, Birth of a Nation
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  Speaker 1: came out and I believe it was nine, there was
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  Speaker 1: an enormous resurgence of clan activity because of that movie.
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  Speaker 1: Because that movie paints the KKK as heroes and it
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  Speaker 1: portrays black men, which are for the most part in
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  Speaker 1: that movie white men in black face, but it paints
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  Speaker 1: those characters as violent criminals and it had such a
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  Speaker 1: major impact on the nation that it affected history, and
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  Speaker 1: that is the power that movies potentially have. So UM
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  Speaker 1: just it is helpful for me to be reminded of that. UM.
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  Speaker 1: In any case, back to this list by Ava Duvernet,
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  Speaker 1: American Son that we have the whole list on our Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: Dear White people, the movie and the series in the
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  Speaker 1: series wonderful See You Yesterday when they See Us another
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  Speaker 1: Ava Duvernet film. UM. These are on Hulu, If Bill
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  Speaker 1: Street Could Talk and The Hate You Give UM. Ones
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  Speaker 1: that are available to rent include Black Power Mix Tape, Clemency,
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  Speaker 1: Fruit Filed Station, one of my favorite there, I Am
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  Speaker 1: Not your Negro, just Mercy Selma, The Black Panthers, Vanguard
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  Speaker 1: of the Revolution. UM. And then I would also just
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  Speaker 1: recommend these are more sort of educational UM and or
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  Speaker 1: movies that I see. I mean, I think that in
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  Speaker 1: general we we recommend these movies from the specific graphic,
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  Speaker 1: but we also just recommend consuming black are like it
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  Speaker 1: is no, I mean, it's it is not just a
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  Speaker 1: critical thing to do to have a like a good palette,
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  Speaker 1: uh for your media diet, but it's also just like
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  Speaker 1: your life is bettered by seeing black art. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess if we're being biased American black art, it just
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  Speaker 1: it's good ship. And and you know, black artists we
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  Speaker 1: know we talk about are not given the opportunity at
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  Speaker 1: the same rate as as mediocre, random white people to
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  Speaker 1: make movies. And it's just you know, if you are
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  Speaker 1: looking at your media diet and realize that there is
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  Speaker 1: not really any diversity and it here's your fucking chance
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  Speaker 1: to research, to educate yourself and to just seek out
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  Speaker 1: resources and and you will be better for it. You
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  Speaker 1: will be happier for it. It is work that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: feel like work because it's just like good movies, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a good move us and good comedy and good
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  Speaker 1: books and on and on and on um. We have
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  Speaker 1: many recommendations that we will also link you too, and
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  Speaker 1: so honestly, uh, you know. To conclude, we here at
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  Speaker 1: the Battle Cast would like to say we think the
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  Speaker 1: police should be abolished. Fuck the police. There has not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily been a time on our program or a time
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  Speaker 1: where we have been I mean truly like i I've
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  Speaker 1: been in the past week alone, be been educated on
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  Speaker 1: a wild line. The line is basically, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: very upward line on on how to articulate these issues.
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  Speaker 1: I am definitely not there. I'm not going to attempt
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  Speaker 1: to be there right now. The American policing system has
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  Speaker 1: been It's not that it's broken, it's that it was
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  Speaker 1: built this one, UM. It was built to exclude, it
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  Speaker 1: was built to oppress, it was built to serve the
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  Speaker 1: white and the wealthy. You know, we've known this for
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  Speaker 1: a long time. But this is the moment where if
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  Speaker 1: you are not educated on this topic, get educated on
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  Speaker 1: this topic. We are also trying to be more educated
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  Speaker 1: on this topic. Two resources that we have already posted
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  Speaker 1: but I will direct you to right now on the
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  Speaker 1: topic are two studies UM. One is a book that
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  Speaker 1: is currently for free what uh from Verso Books. I'm
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  Speaker 1: halfway through it. It is intense and it is important.
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  Speaker 1: It's called The End of Policing by Alex S. Vitale
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  Speaker 1: Vitale and it and it is truly just walking you
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  Speaker 1: through why the American policing system is not serving the
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  Speaker 1: people that it says it's serving. It is a system
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  Speaker 1: that is not serving our country period. So that is
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  Speaker 1: a great resource. Another study that has been really enlightening
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  Speaker 1: for me, UM coming from mp D one fifty, which
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  Speaker 1: is a study based in Minnesota that was released last year,
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  Speaker 1: but it's a one year performance review of the Minneapolis
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  Speaker 1: Police Department. Um that, wouldn't you know, it essentially reaches
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  Speaker 1: the same conclusion the police. It's not that they're just ineffective,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that they're just racist. Is that that that
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  Speaker 1: is the point and that is built into the d
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  Speaker 1: n A of what the American police forces. And I
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  Speaker 1: know that. I mean, I think that for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people. And when I first came across the concept
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  Speaker 1: of abolished the police a couple of years back, it
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: feels like, what But educate yourself, challenge yourself. I think
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  Speaker 1: you'll find pretty quickly that we should fucking abolish the police,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: we should defund the police. And we'll leave you with
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: just uh, focusing on get involved locally, Know what's going
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: on locally, follow your local Black Lives Matter chapter. There
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: are so many organizations already in place that know the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: ship you don't know, that have the resources that you
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: need to better understand, and that will tell you what
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: are your opportunities to be involved and be impactful, whether
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: it's the simplest signing an online petition or showing up
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: at a protest, contacting your representatives, calling emailing, or if
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: it's the complicated long term work that we all need
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: to commit to. We have so much work to do,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and we love you all. Were committed, We miss you. Yes, yes, yes, yeah.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't have really anything else to say, I suppose,
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  Speaker 1: except that one of the things that everyone can do
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: is to amplify black voices, and I would like to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: do that by if you don't already, follow various past
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: guests we've had on the show on their social media channels.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Many of them are comedians. Check out their comedy, check
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: out their writing, check out their work. Top ahead. I mean,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: we've got Lacy Moseley, who is truly just the queen
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: of my heart and my brain. Yes, Naomi e Paragon,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: both of the part Elite Bechtel Cast Club. We've got
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: also Demi adjuy Bay another three time guest. Um, We've
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: got Hunter Harris, We've got Maggie May, Aquila Hughes, Lexie
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Grace So shears amda Zaynab Johnson. Why shout out if
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you watty way, I want to shout out. Aaron Haynes Whack,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: who is our waiting to exhale and I think everyone's
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: favorite episodes. It's constantly brought up as a faith Danielle Radford,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Madison Shepherd. There's truly like and and we will continue
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to bring on black guests and black perspectives in the future.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And we really encourage you if you've heard an episode
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: with a guest whose perspective you value and like, then
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: fucking follow them, like just do it, like if you
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: haven't already. And I know that that many of you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: are like, Oh, I love this guest. I pledged my
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: life to them, and that is you know, that's that's wonderful.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Do that continue to do that, um, and we will
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: continue to be committed to bring you the funniest, most
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: wonderful people on earth. Joel Monique for fucking crying out loud.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Can he'se moblikeness mobli like. The list goes on and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: and also look forward to We truly have like a
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: very like we have so many wonderful people that we
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: want to on the show that there's just simply not
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: enough thursdays in the year for um. But I just
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: know and and if there's also if there's people that
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you would like to see on the show, if there
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: are guests that you'd like to see on the show.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: We want to hear about it, we want to know. Uh.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I think in the past, like we've we've been introduced
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to guests by our own listeners and and that has
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: led to classic episodes of the Battle Cast. And we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: would also recommend that you listen to UM podcasts that
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: feature black perspectives specifically and exclusively. We are simply not
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the only podcasts on the air, and that's a damn
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: good thing. UM A wonderful movie podcast if you're looking
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: for a movie podcast that is UM specifically focused on
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the black American experience, is Black Men Can't Jump in Hollywood.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: That is like a podcast that I very much love.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: It's it's so wonderful. There's also a list of other
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: podcasts that you can list and to UM that. I mean,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we've already taken up so much of your airspace. But
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: what we're saying is we're here, we're listening, we want
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: to get better, and you're here. I hope you're listening,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and I hope you want to get better too. If
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you're a non black listener, and if you're a black listener,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: thank you for your patience and thank you for thank
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you for being here. Yeah, we're forever grateful. And I
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: suppose be here next week to ye, And then we
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: got to that and I don't think we've explicitly said
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: black lives matter. And if you don't think so, you
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: can hit that unsubscribe. But you can straight out in
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: all lives if you've Let's put this at the beginning
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: of the episode, Welcome to the Bechtel cas black Dog Gay.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: But like the but you know, if you've gotten all
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: lives matter our argument, you can funk off of our feed.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: We're not interested in it. Yeah, if you're coming at
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: us with an all lives matter argument, we're going to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: tell you to funk off. We don't want you to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: be a part of our community. Yeah, you're you more
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: than anybody else. Needs to educate yourself and figure out
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: why you think that and realize why you are wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, and then maybe we'll let you come back
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to us see you on the other side of that. Um. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we we love, we love, we love everybody. Uh, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for hanging if you did this week, and and if not,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see you next week. We'll be people will still
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: be sharing all the resources and amplifying all the voices
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: we can on the platform that we have, and feel
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: free to send your recommendations in addition to the ones
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: we've already provided. People to follow, black voices, black content,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: black art, other organizations, to donate to and get involved
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: with any number of things that's going to be helpful
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: in this fight. Um, feel free to recommend to us
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and we will reshare them. We're here to share our
• 33:05
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  Speaker 1: all we have and we'll be back next week. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we love you, ye see you then bye bye.