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REPORT: MISSING LYNETTE HOOKER MURDER INVESTIGATION? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Overboard. A beautiful young mom, Lynette Hooker disappears at sea
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Speaker 1: with her husband. Good evening, I means he graces This
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Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us.
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Speaker 2: Brian texting me saying call me.
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Speaker 3: At around eight thirty at night, Brian just said, Hey,
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Speaker 3: your mom's all overboard. She's been missing since last night
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Speaker 3: around seven thirty. Something is off, something is sketchy. From
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Speaker 3: that phone call, I was just.
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Speaker 2: Sitting there like, what, how do you lose my mom?
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Speaker 4: It's not the evidence that Brian did anything wrong, it's
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Speaker 4: the sense of evidence to support his story. I'm trying
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Speaker 4: to piece it together with the Brian I know, and
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Speaker 4: it's not working. And I really wish you would start
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Speaker 4: talking and explain it so that it makes sense to us.
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Speaker 5: Somebody lost their daughter and their mother and now she's
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Speaker 5: still not found. It doesn't make sense to me in
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Speaker 5: the story to an add up. We're still searching for
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Speaker 5: our body, and I do believe like he's the only
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Speaker 5: person that knows the truth.
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Speaker 1: Joining us tonight, Crime Stories investigative reporter Dave Matt. Dave Matt,
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Speaker 1: what more can you tell us?
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Speaker 4: Nancy?
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Speaker 6: We have an exciting time happening in the Bahamas right now.
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Speaker 6: As this story has been going on for weeks, we've
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Speaker 6: been wondering what really transpired the night of April fourth
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Speaker 6: into the morning of April fifth, and now we're getting
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Speaker 6: a little bit better.
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Speaker 1: Look.
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Speaker 6: The Coastguard from the United States of America is now
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Speaker 6: in the Bahamas with a dive team. They are picking
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Speaker 6: areas to dive and it's amazing how this fart into
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Speaker 6: this investigation that we're finally getting that type of movement
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Speaker 6: breaking down the digital stuff that Brian Hooker has comparing
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Speaker 6: it worth with what he said there might be some discrepancies. Also,
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Speaker 6: in a shocking update, we find out that on the
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Speaker 6: Soulmate there is the you know, the digital tracking that
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Speaker 6: shows where a boat is, the speed and everything else
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Speaker 6: that goes into that. Well, we found out that for
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Speaker 6: eleven hours beginning around nine to thirty pm the night
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Speaker 6: of April fourth, that GPS, the tracker.
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Speaker 4: This was shut off.
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Speaker 6: The Soulmate went totally dark, totally in communicado from nine
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Speaker 6: to thirty pm on April fourth until eight forty am
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Speaker 6: on April to fifth, So documentation for that time period gone.
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Speaker 6: It's not there, totally dark during the one time we
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Speaker 6: really need that information. So those are the just right
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Speaker 6: off the top of the bat, Nancy, That's what we're
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Speaker 6: looking at. As this story has really heated up.
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Speaker 1: Robert Crispin is joining us now private investigator at Crispin
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Speaker 1: Special Investigations, former Federal Task Force officer, US Department Justice
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Speaker 1: DEA Miami field office. It goes on and on and
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Speaker 1: on at Crispinsinvestigations dot com. Robert Crispin, what do you
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Speaker 1: make of that?
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Speaker 7: So, as you reported, it has been reported that the
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Speaker 7: GPS data stopped at a certain time and came back
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Speaker 7: on the next morning. Plus the statements of mister Hooker
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Speaker 7: to law enforcement.
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Speaker 4: Don't match any data that they.
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Speaker 7: Recovered prior to that time. And let me explain why
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Speaker 7: that's important. Because the GPS or the garments that are
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Speaker 7: on these boats, they lay what's.
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Speaker 2: Called cookies or a trail.
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Speaker 7: So as you're driving across the ocean or you're going
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Speaker 7: in between the islands, there is a cookie trail behind
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Speaker 7: your boat, and it's how you can turn around and
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Speaker 7: follow your trail back if you get into inclement weather
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Speaker 7: or a zero visibility issue. All you do is follow
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Speaker 7: your track. That track will take you everywhere you've been.
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Speaker 7: People on the East Coast that go to the Bahamas,
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Speaker 7: they use their cookies to cross the ocean to get
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Speaker 7: to the Bahamas to hit that inlet. A lot of
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Speaker 7: inlets in.
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Speaker 2: The Bahamas don't have lights.
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Speaker 7: A lot of them at night are pitch black, and
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Speaker 7: those cookies tell you exactly where that boat's been. And
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Speaker 7: boaters and people that operate vessels, especially in the Bahamas
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Speaker 7: or in the open ocean, can see heat such as another.
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Speaker 2: Boat that could be in front of them that.
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Speaker 7: Has no lights on. It's great for when you're in
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Speaker 7: the inner coastal Waterway or you're in the surrounding areas
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Speaker 7: of the Bahamas to have it on because you can see.
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Speaker 7: It will actually pick up the heat of a swimmer
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Speaker 7: or a body in front of your boat, and you
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Speaker 7: can you can move away from that. That device should
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Speaker 7: have been used when she allegedly went overboard and that flur,
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Speaker 7: because the Bahama waters, remember are very warm, and her
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Speaker 7: body's not going to cool down that quick. That flur
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Speaker 7: would have detected her body heat of thermal imaging.
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Speaker 1: Vanessa Waltz joining US Store of Unmasked True Crime, who
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Speaker 1: has dedicated weeks and weeks of investigation into Lynette's disappearance, Vanessa,
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Speaker 1: what more can you tell us?
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Speaker 8: So what's so significant to me is that investigators state
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Speaker 8: that they believed that they were searching the wrong area
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Speaker 8: based on information that was given to them originally. And
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Speaker 8: to me, that's very significant because investigators don't typically move
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Speaker 8: major search operations and unless they believe that the evidence
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Speaker 8: justifies it. So the key thing for me here is
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Speaker 8: that investigators changed the search because the evidence changed the search.
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Speaker 4: From what we know.
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Speaker 8: Authorities have not released the exact coordinates of where the
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Speaker 8: search has changed to, but we do know that they
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Speaker 8: are searching a previously unsearched area of the Sea of Abaco,
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Speaker 8: and investigators have reportedly identified the location through electronic and
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Speaker 8: GPS evidence from Brian's digital devices and electronic devices. So
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Speaker 8: the Coastguard has divers, they have underwater search equipment and
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Speaker 8: multiple They've got multiple resources available to look for whatever
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Speaker 8: I think can help them get to the answers, whether
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Speaker 8: that's been at herself or any kind of evidence that
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Speaker 8: can help lead them to what happened to her that night.
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Speaker 8: I think for me, finding out that they're going to
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Speaker 8: these never searched areas. I can't say that I'm surprised
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Speaker 8: with that, because from the very beginning, many of us
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Speaker 8: had a lot of questions with those recorded statements that
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Speaker 8: were released, and he had very very specific story with
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Speaker 8: very specific locations, and the fact that they're back out
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Speaker 8: in new locations tells me that we were correct from
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Speaker 8: the very beginning that this story just doesn't line up.
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Speaker 8: It doesn't make sense. And even the timeline from the
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Speaker 8: very beginning with it not being dark, with the depth
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Speaker 8: of the water being allegedly forward to eleven feet deep.
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Speaker 8: I think for me the most significant thing is his
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Speaker 8: original statements that he gave to multiple sources, by the way,
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Speaker 8: did not line up with what investigators ultimately found when
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Speaker 8: they reviewed his electronic devices.
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Speaker 1: Joining us tonight is a very special guest that we
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Speaker 1: have seen from Afar, we have prayed for, we have
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Speaker 1: thought about during all these days that her mother, Lynette
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Speaker 1: has been missing. Carly Aylesworth joining us tonight, Carly, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with.
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Speaker 2: Us, and thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: I've got so many questions for you, but I'll just
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Speaker 1: start at the beginning. When did you learn your mom
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Speaker 1: was missing? How did you find that out?
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Speaker 3: Brian texting me saying call me at around nine eight
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Speaker 3: thirty at night. My grandma called me prior to that,
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Speaker 3: but I was napping so I didn't pick up.
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Speaker 2: But then he said call me.
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Speaker 3: I said, oh, two of my family members need me
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Speaker 3: to call them.
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Speaker 2: Something is happening.
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Speaker 3: So I answered, and I put it on speakerphone and
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Speaker 3: Steve was right next to me and he heard the
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Speaker 3: whole thing too, and Brian just said, hey, your mom
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Speaker 3: fell overboard. I threw her a life preserver, but she
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Speaker 3: I don't know if she got it. She's been missing
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Speaker 3: since last night around seven thirty. And Steve immediately stood
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Speaker 3: up and was like, something is off, something is sketchy
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Speaker 3: from that phone call. And I was still in shock.
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Speaker 3: I was just sitting there, like, what how do you
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Speaker 3: lose my mom?
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Speaker 1: Carly. You stated just then that he Brian Hooker, your
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Speaker 1: mom's husband. It's your stepfather, right, yep, you stated he
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Speaker 1: said he threw her a life preserver. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And it's not even a life preserver. It's something that
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Speaker 3: you kneel on or sit on. It's like for gardening,
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Speaker 3: you something you kneel on, and it doesn't keep one
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty pound person afloat, so it's not technically.
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Speaker 1: A life preserve, doesn't. Yeah, you know, and that's why
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Speaker 1: when you said he said he threw her a life preserver,
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Speaker 1: because to my memory and I don't have any notes
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Speaker 1: about it in front of me, he said he threw
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Speaker 1: her a seat cushion, but he told you he threw
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Speaker 1: her a life preserver.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And look, I've dived all over the world before I
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Speaker 1: had the twins. I gave it up because I thought
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Speaker 1: it was too dangerous. But you're right, Carly, A seat
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Speaker 1: cushion can be that thick that is not going to
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Speaker 1: hold anybody up in the water, much less in waves
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Speaker 1: he said had started, Yeah, exactly, but he told you
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Speaker 1: life preserver when we're talking.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was supposedly found like four hundred feet
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Speaker 3: from the dinghy when it washed up to short when
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Speaker 3: he washed up to shore in Marsh Harbor.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. It's just all subjective at the moment.
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Speaker 1: That's really interesting, Carly. Now I understand what you're saying,
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Speaker 1: and I agree with you, but could you explain why
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Speaker 1: you don't think that's true.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that it would wash up right next
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Speaker 3: to you, But my mom suddenly washed the other way.
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Speaker 2: It just doesn't make sense exactly.
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Speaker 1: That's my thinking. I'm not tied in wave and current expert,
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Speaker 1: but if he washed that way, and the dinghy washed
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Speaker 1: that way, and the seat cushion washed that way, then
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Speaker 1: why didn't she wash that way? And now, your mom
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Speaker 1: was an experienced sailor, she knew what to do if
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Speaker 1: she fell overboard.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and where she fell in at we Steve and
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Speaker 3: I went and like retrace their steps that day, and
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Speaker 3: she could have swim a couple of feet to the side,
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Speaker 3: up to shore and stood up in the water. It
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Speaker 3: was really shallow. It's like a giant sandbar in between
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Speaker 3: the islands. So I'm just wondering, why was she swimming
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Speaker 3: away from the dinghy, and why didn't she try to
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Speaker 3: get back on it.
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Speaker 2: Why did she grab the key on her way out?
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Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: They see, that's another thing we've been talking about, and
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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you brought it up, Curly, So let's
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Speaker 1: just go with your step far their story, Brian Hooker's
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Speaker 1: story that she quote bounced off the Dinghey, I still
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Speaker 1: don't know how she bounced off, but I'll get to
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Speaker 1: that you're saying if she fell in in the spot
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Speaker 1: where he described, Hey, let's see that control and let's
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Speaker 1: see that Matt that he sent. Instead of outing being
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Speaker 1: out looking for Lynette, he was on the phone gabbing
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Speaker 1: with friends for hours on end, putting his story out
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Speaker 1: there and sending maps. I mean, if my child or
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Speaker 1: husband fell overboard, I would not be on a conference
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Speaker 1: call on speaker with my friends trying to get my story.
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Speaker 1: I'd be looking. But you're hearing Carly Illsworth. This is
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Speaker 1: Lynette's daughter, her only biological daughter, and she's speaking there. Look,
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Speaker 1: Carly's saying that where her mom allegedly fell off the dinghy,
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Speaker 1: she only would have to swim a few feet and
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Speaker 1: stand up on a sandbar. That's all she had to do.
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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying, Carly?
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Speaker 2: Yep? Pretty much.
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Speaker 3: And they found two life jackets in the dinghy when
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Speaker 3: he washed up the shore, So why he didn't put
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Speaker 3: one on and then jump in to go give.
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Speaker 2: Her the other one doesn't make sense to me either.
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Speaker 1: See I did not know that, Carly. That's important. There
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Speaker 1: were two life jackets still on the dinghy unused.
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Speaker 2: Yep.
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Speaker 1: Do you know where they were? Were they in plane view,
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Speaker 1: they were they in a chest, a safety chest? Where
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Speaker 1: were they?
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Speaker 3: Eric?
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Speaker 2: Just out on the floor.
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Speaker 1: Oh my stars? Oh okay, wait, there's two life this
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Speaker 1: lying in the floor. And he did not throw one
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Speaker 1: to her and put one on and jump in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, his thought was to throw the seat cushion to her.
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Speaker 3: He's a I feel like he should be more honest
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Speaker 3: toes of when.
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Speaker 2: These type of situations.
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to take in. You know, in three minutes,
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Speaker 1: I've already learned more from you than I have from
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Speaker 1: him in weeks. Okay, let me get back to You're
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Speaker 1: just giving me so much information, and none of it
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Speaker 1: is good for him too. Why fast? Right there in
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Speaker 1: the dinghy.
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Speaker 3: My stepsister, his daughter, Rosie told me, asked. She told
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Speaker 3: me that she asked him if they were fighting when
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Speaker 3: this all happened, and he didn't respond.
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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I'm gonna have to start a flow chart.
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Speaker 1: I'm getting so much information. Hold on, So, Brian Hooker
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Speaker 1: tells his his bio child Rosie, Well, you didn't tell
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Speaker 1: her anything. She asked her. You arguing at the time,
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Speaker 1: and he said nothing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: What else did he say to Rosie?
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Speaker 2: Uh?
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Speaker 3: He didn't I don't think he said much to her.
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Speaker 3: He mostly talked. He talked to us in a group
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Speaker 3: chat with her, just to us three and was like,
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Speaker 3: I wish I could be there for you guys, but
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Speaker 3: I have.
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Speaker 2: To be here searching for her.
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Speaker 3: This lady can take care of you guys.
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Speaker 2: So that's she. I don't know how much she's talked
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Speaker 2: to him, because she's still.
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Speaker 3: Distraught because she was close to my mom too, so
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Speaker 3: she's doesn't She doesn't want to believe any he did
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Speaker 3: anything to her because that's her dad. So I get that.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, with what we know, it's
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Speaker 3: just not adding up.
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Speaker 1: With us tonight. Carly Aylsworth, this is Lynette Hooker's only
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Speaker 1: biological daughter. I do not know how you have the
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Speaker 1: composure I admire it to speak. I wonder, if you're
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Speaker 1: in a state of shock, do you believe there's any
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Speaker 1: chance you're still alive.
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Speaker 3: There's still a string of hope that she's just on
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Speaker 3: an island somewhere living it up, needing a break from life.
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Speaker 3: So without a body, it's kind of hard to like
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Speaker 3: for me to have much closure right now. I still
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Speaker 3: have so many questions as to what happened A lot
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Speaker 3: of what ifs? Why did that happen? Why did not
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Speaker 3: this happen?
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Speaker 2: It's just hard.
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you have your boyfriend stay with you. What
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Speaker 1: was his reaction when your dad, your stepfather called and
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Speaker 1: told you your mom's missing. And let's see, he said
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Speaker 1: that happened at seven thirty the night before. And when
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Speaker 1: did he call.
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Speaker 2: You nine thirty the next day at night.
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Speaker 1: Nine thirty am PM? Oh my goodness. Okay, hold on,
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Speaker 1: so we've talked about twenty six hours later.
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Speaker 9: Yep?
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Speaker 1: Did you ask him why he waited over a day
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Speaker 1: to let you know?
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Speaker 2: I was in.
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Speaker 3: Shock when he called me, so I didn't really say much.
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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, just trying to soak it all in.
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Speaker 3: But as soon as I go off the phone, Steve
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Speaker 3: got up and was like, that was skepchy, something's off.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So okay, can you tell me one more time
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Speaker 1: exactly what he said on that nine thirty PM call
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Speaker 1: the day after your mom went overboard? What exactly did
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Speaker 1: he say?
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Speaker 2: He called me and was like, hey, your mom fell overboard.
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Speaker 3: I try to throw a life to the preserves or her,
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Speaker 3: but I don't know if she got it. She drifted
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Speaker 3: the other way, So I paddled to shore, and he
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Speaker 3: said he washed up to shore at like four thirty
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Speaker 3: in the morning the next morning. And then he's like,
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Speaker 3: but we're gonna come up and see you soon, so
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Speaker 3: we're hoping that we're gonna see you. And I was like, okay,
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Speaker 3: and then he started talking about it again and quickly
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Speaker 3: hung up, hung up on the phone, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: what just happened? And Steve got up like that was sketchies.
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Speaker 3: That was like that doesn't add up, like, and he
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Speaker 3: was also trying to console me, but he was also
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Speaker 3: like that I don't believe the story as soon as
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Speaker 3: you said it, so it was sketchy from the start.
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Speaker 1: So he says she fell in. He threw her a
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Speaker 1: life preserver. She went one way, and he paddled the
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Speaker 1: other way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it took him nine hours to get to
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Speaker 2: shore to Mars Harder.
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Speaker 1: He said, he paddled the other way away from your mother.
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Speaker 2: Because the wind was pushing it.
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Speaker 1: I guess, okay, I just want to make sure, he
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Speaker 1: said he paddled the other way.
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Speaker 3: He just paddled with the wind, which is the other
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Speaker 3: direction that she supposedly drifted away.
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Speaker 2: I guess and it took.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so to him, the current was going one way,
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Speaker 3: but the wind was going the other way. But I
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Speaker 3: talked to a captain there and when I went to
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Speaker 3: the Bahamas, and they said that they swam where he
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Speaker 3: paddled in two and a half hours. So the fact
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Speaker 3: that it took him nine hours doesn't add up.
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Speaker 1: What happened after that phone call with your stepfather? When
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Speaker 1: did you hear from him again?
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Speaker 3: Immediately after the phone call, I called my dad and
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Speaker 3: I was like, you will never believe the news I
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Speaker 3: just got. He's like, I'm sure I can't because my
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Speaker 3: grandma called him.
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Speaker 2: Because she couldn't get a hold of me.
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Speaker 3: And he's like, I was like, my mom's missing, and
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Speaker 3: he goes, I know. We talked about it for a
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Speaker 3: minute and he was like, I wasn't your number Mom's
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Speaker 3: number one fan, but this is messed up, Like I
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Speaker 3: care about her because that's your mom.
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Speaker 2: So it was yeah, that's immediately what I did after.
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Speaker 1: When did you hear from him again? Cary?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 3: He left me some voicemails and that they found the
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Speaker 3: life preserver that he threw to her and that they
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Speaker 3: can search a smaller area now and left me A
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Speaker 3: couple texts brought the group chats with Rosie and I,
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Speaker 3: but I haven't responded. I don't plan to respond right
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Speaker 3: now with the facts that I have and my gut feeling.
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Speaker 1: So after that, you were included on some grape texts.
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Speaker 1: What did they have to say?
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Speaker 3: He was just saying how he wishes he could be
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Speaker 3: there for us, and that we'll get through this, this
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Speaker 3: lady to take care of us if we.
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Speaker 2: Need to, and just that he needs to be there
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Speaker 2: right now.
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Speaker 1: Searching, what do you make of that evening's events? I
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Speaker 1: guess that you're learning about through the media, that they
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Speaker 1: went to have dinner at the inn, that they had
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Speaker 1: drinks there, that they left around seven seven point thirty.
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Speaker 1: Almost immediately when they got in the dinghy, the waves
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Speaker 1: kicked up to two or three foot swells, and that
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Speaker 1: shallow area that she quote bounced off the dinghy and
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Speaker 1: was never seen again. What part of that does or
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Speaker 1: does not make sense to you?
21:40
Speaker 3: Well, the Atlantic side, I could see having that big
21:43
Speaker 3: old waves because I was there and I saw the
21:46
Speaker 3: waves are pretty big. But on the leeward side it's
21:49
Speaker 3: like glass, it's not even no waves, and there's a
21:53
Speaker 3: channel that you go down because the boats need to
21:57
Speaker 3: be deep enough and so and then it's only like
22:01
Speaker 3: so wide, it's like fifty feet wide twenties.
22:04
Speaker 2: I don't know, not that wide.
22:05
Speaker 3: And she could have swam to the side and stood up.
22:09
Speaker 3: It's only a couple of feet outside the channel. So
22:14
Speaker 3: I don't see how their conditions. Yes, and she used
22:19
Speaker 3: to run all the time, ran half marathon in a
22:21
Speaker 3: twenty five k so she was pretty fit. She could swim.
22:25
Speaker 3: They've done this for ten years, so she knows all
22:28
Speaker 3: about the water.
22:29
Speaker 1: So when was the last time you actually spoke to your.
22:32
Speaker 2: Mom Friday around dinner time?
22:38
Speaker 1: And what does she have to say? What was her
22:40
Speaker 1: frame of mind?
22:43
Speaker 2: She seemed fine to me.
22:46
Speaker 3: I asked her for advice and she was helping me
22:48
Speaker 3: with that, so she you were just Yeah, she'd more
22:53
Speaker 3: confide in my grandma about like relationship problems and.
22:59
Speaker 2: Money and all that.
23:00
Speaker 3: So she just she only tells me like when she
23:02
Speaker 3: thinks she's going to break up with him and leave him.
23:05
Speaker 1: Uh, but yeah, Carly, tell me about if you know
23:10
Speaker 1: about them, their relationship and money problems.
23:14
Speaker 3: So I know that they don't touch my mom's retirement
23:17
Speaker 3: right now because she's not fifty nine and a half.
23:20
Speaker 3: So they've been taking out of Brian's so I don't
23:22
Speaker 3: know how much he has. I don't know like what
23:26
Speaker 3: his financials are. I know my mom has life insurance,
23:29
Speaker 3: but it's only fifteen thousand from AT and T where
23:32
Speaker 3: she retired, So I don't know if they took out
23:34
Speaker 3: another life insurance. I ask my lawyer, but he's looking
23:38
Speaker 3: into it.
23:39
Speaker 1: So so they're living all of your mom's retirement is
23:44
Speaker 1: sitting there.
23:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has like well over six hundred.
23:49
Speaker 1: K, yeah, that she has built up over all the
23:54
Speaker 1: time that she worked at AT and T.
23:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like the fat past last two years she
24:00
Speaker 3: was working. For a few years, she was dumping like
24:02
Speaker 3: one thousand dollars each paycheck every other week into her retirement.
24:06
Speaker 2: So I know it's pretty high.
24:10
Speaker 1: And you know another thing about that, Curly is I
24:13
Speaker 1: think AT and T has a plan where they match
24:18
Speaker 1: not the full amount you put in, but up to
24:21
Speaker 1: a certain percentage, like five percent or ten percent, they
24:25
Speaker 1: match what you saved. A lot of big corporations have that,
24:28
Speaker 1: So what she was putting in there was matched to
24:32
Speaker 1: some extent, most likely by AT and T. And that
24:35
Speaker 1: really adds up two grand a month from her, and
24:39
Speaker 1: then just let's say eight hundred and two a grand
24:42
Speaker 1: from at and T a month the whole time she's
24:46
Speaker 1: banking it in that retirement plan. That's a lot of
24:49
Speaker 1: money saved up, so well, over a half a million
24:53
Speaker 1: dollars yep. And I assume that he, Brian Hooker, is
24:59
Speaker 1: the benefit is the recipient of that upon her death.
25:06
Speaker 3: So my grandma said, my mom wanted hurt. My mom
25:09
Speaker 3: wanted to change the beneficiary to me the last time
25:13
Speaker 3: they broke up two years ago, but she doesn't.
25:15
Speaker 2: Know if my mom ever got around to doing that.
25:18
Speaker 1: There have been reports that he took out a quarter
25:22
Speaker 1: of a million dollar life insurance policy before your mom
25:25
Speaker 1: went missing. Do you know anything about that?
25:29
Speaker 2: I do not.
25:29
Speaker 3: I asked my lawyer if you could look into it,
25:32
Speaker 3: but I haven't heard from him yet because I asked.
25:35
Speaker 2: Him on the weekend, so I think he's still looking
25:37
Speaker 2: into it. I still have to check back up with him.
25:43
Speaker 1: To blame Stevenson. This is Brian Hooker's friend. He is
25:48
Speaker 1: a voting expert and his wife is very very close
25:51
Speaker 1: with Lynette. Mister Stevenson, thank you for being with us.
25:55
Speaker 1: What do you make of this.
25:58
Speaker 4: What I make from all of reports that have come
26:01
Speaker 4: out is that there are people in the area. There
26:03
Speaker 4: were people overlooking the area. I've gotten calls from people
26:08
Speaker 4: who talk about different weather conditions in support and against
26:14
Speaker 4: his claim. But what we do know is there were
26:17
Speaker 4: people in the area. I do know that a human
26:20
Speaker 4: yelling is louder than any splash I've ever heard. So
26:24
Speaker 4: my problem is an hour of him yelling for his
26:27
Speaker 4: wife isn't heard, but a splash is in the same
26:32
Speaker 4: general vicinity. My problem is that he floated over to
26:38
Speaker 4: marsh Harbor in the same weather conditions within three hours,
26:44
Speaker 4: the same amount of time of that floatation device, which
26:47
Speaker 4: doesn't have the same windage as his boat, ending up
26:50
Speaker 4: within three hundred feet of where he was, but nothing
26:53
Speaker 4: from Lynette ends up in the same spot. It's not
26:57
Speaker 4: the it's not the brain did anything wrong. It's a
27:02
Speaker 4: sense of evidence to support his story.
27:05
Speaker 10: She basically just bounced off the dinghy in the middle
27:08
Speaker 10: of a little blow like twenty some not winds that
27:12
Speaker 10: popped up and on a three half mile maybe tripped
27:16
Speaker 10: back to the.
27:18
Speaker 11: Dingey and angle thing failed. Uh, every single thing we
27:24
Speaker 11: weren't wearing, mic Jack.
27:25
Speaker 3: It's if she.
27:30
Speaker 9: It was sundown and the sun set like basically ten
27:34
Speaker 9: minutes after she fell over, doing he kill her with
27:39
Speaker 9: her because it wasn't clipped to anything or anybody, and
27:42
Speaker 9: she had the spare dingey key in her dry bag
27:45
Speaker 9: which was with her.
27:46
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was inflated.
27:49
Speaker 11: I mean inflated because it was folded.
27:51
Speaker 12: But the wind blew us apart so fast that I
27:55
Speaker 12: think I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat,
27:59
Speaker 12: back to our sale boat, which is probably I don't know,
28:03
Speaker 12: a thousand yards or something, but the ways for three
28:07
Speaker 12: foot and I was trying to ship to oars and
28:11
Speaker 12: one of the pends on the ars broken, dropped over
28:14
Speaker 12: the side, and I was yelling for her the whole time.
28:18
Speaker 12: And I yelled to her that I lost the ar
28:20
Speaker 12: and I threw the anchor out and anchored the dinghy and.
28:27
Speaker 13: Jesse, yeah, I yelled. I couldn't see her anymore. It
28:30
Speaker 13: was it was the moon has not raisen yet.
28:33
Speaker 1: That is from our friend Vanessa Waltz, the star of
28:36
Speaker 1: Unmasked True crime Blaine Stevenson. Is that the yelling that
28:43
Speaker 1: you're referring to that nobody heard that, but they did
28:46
Speaker 1: hear a.
28:47
Speaker 4: Splash, correct, I mean the time of night. He says
28:51
Speaker 4: it happened at sunset in our community. That's when everybody's
28:55
Speaker 4: on the back of their boat. If you're if you're home,
28:58
Speaker 4: if you're a lover board, if you were in the area,
29:01
Speaker 4: that's the best time to be outside because you're not
29:03
Speaker 4: getting beat by the sun. You're not getting it's dinner time,
29:09
Speaker 4: that's sundown or time. If you're out, you're out at
29:13
Speaker 4: that time. The time. If I had to pick a
29:17
Speaker 4: time for a tragedy to happen on the water in
29:19
Speaker 4: an anchorage, I would pick that time because you're most
29:22
Speaker 4: likely to get help, you're most likely to be heard,
29:24
Speaker 4: you're most likely to be seen. So the fact that
29:28
Speaker 4: he's screamed for an hour and we have no reports
29:32
Speaker 4: of that five weeks in, but we have reports of
29:34
Speaker 4: people who are up and around and on land far
29:37
Speaker 4: enough away from soulmate, but could still hear a splash.
29:43
Speaker 4: I'm trying to piece it together with the Brian I know,
29:45
Speaker 4: and it's not working, and I really wish he would
29:51
Speaker 4: start talking and explain it so that it makes sense
29:54
Speaker 4: to us.
29:55
Speaker 1: Blame. Have you asked him?
29:57
Speaker 4: No, He's he's blocked everything on social media. I mean,
30:03
Speaker 4: I can ask him right now, Brian, Let's go to
30:05
Speaker 4: the Bahamas and look together, right. Uh. The easiest way
30:09
Speaker 4: to shut up all the haters, as you call him
30:10
Speaker 4: in comments, is let's grab me, you Dan, Let's let's
30:15
Speaker 4: grab the whole team. Let's go find your wife, Let's
30:17
Speaker 4: get closure. There's there's no reason, uh for me to
30:23
Speaker 4: be on a computer and you to be where you are.
30:25
Speaker 4: Let's be in the Bahamas, and let's go find.
30:27
Speaker 1: Lynette blank saves. And do you think he'll take you
30:30
Speaker 1: up on it?
30:32
Speaker 4: I hope so the Brian I knew what of this
30:36
Speaker 4: guy I've seen for the last five weeks. I don't
30:38
Speaker 4: know what that guy would do. But the Brian I
30:42
Speaker 4: knew would bring the people together, go fight the cause,
30:47
Speaker 4: and go get the answers. And if in the process
30:52
Speaker 4: it clears his name, great, You know, I don't. I
30:57
Speaker 4: don't want Brian to be guilty. I just can mathematically
31:01
Speaker 4: make it work. And I think that's the misconception is
31:06
Speaker 4: nobody is going after Brian because they want to go
31:09
Speaker 4: after Brian. Everyone's going after Brian's story because it's not working.
31:16
Speaker 4: When was the last time a body went missing in
31:18
Speaker 4: the water in the Bahamas and was not recovered in
31:23
Speaker 4: the Abco area. So yeah, the mathematics behind this is
31:27
Speaker 4: where Brian is a man of science. Brian taught me
31:30
Speaker 4: a lot about boating. The longer we go and a
31:37
Speaker 4: dry bag has not been found on shore. The longer
31:39
Speaker 4: we go and a blue Columbia jacket has not washed up.
31:43
Speaker 4: The longer we go, we get more information, we get
31:48
Speaker 4: more speculation. When we don't get is any more confirmation
31:51
Speaker 4: of his story?
31:53
Speaker 1: You mentioned twenty nineteen.
31:55
Speaker 4: Why, Uh, so I was trying to figure out. Oh,
32:00
Speaker 4: I want to believe Brian. I want to I want
32:04
Speaker 4: to understand so that I can keep my wife safe.
32:07
Speaker 4: I want to make sure that the cascade of failures
32:09
Speaker 4: that he went through we don't go through. But I
32:12
Speaker 4: can't find a scenario that fits anybody falling off a
32:17
Speaker 4: boat and their body not being recovered in that area.
32:21
Speaker 4: There is an instant in twenty nineteen where a gentleman
32:25
Speaker 4: left his fishing boat and was never found again. But
32:29
Speaker 4: even that report shows like the gas tanks were tampered
32:32
Speaker 4: with or something, so there was there was some jinky
32:35
Speaker 4: stuff with that one. But the search and rescue guys
32:40
Speaker 4: when they're being interviewed. Everybody who's being talked to, This
32:45
Speaker 4: just doesn't happen there. And I do believe all the
32:48
Speaker 4: sailors will say anything can happen at see. I've been
32:50
Speaker 4: a part of it. Brian got me through a hurricane.
32:54
Speaker 4: But it doesn't fit the terrain, and it doesn't fit
32:57
Speaker 4: the night, and it doesn't fit the time of his story.
33:01
Speaker 1: You stated that you have a mathematical issue. You can't
33:04
Speaker 1: mathematically make his story work, and I agree with you.
33:09
Speaker 1: What I would like to happen is that we find
33:11
Speaker 1: Lynette alive. I don't think that's going to happen. I
33:16
Speaker 1: hate to put that out there, and in the search
33:20
Speaker 1: for her alive, but I think she would have been
33:22
Speaker 1: in contact with her daughter by now if she were
33:25
Speaker 1: alive and if she could reach her, which makes me
33:30
Speaker 1: go to the next logical step is that she is dead.
33:35
Speaker 1: And I'm examining his story and I want him to
33:39
Speaker 1: be telling the truth. I don't want him to be
33:42
Speaker 1: guilty as well. But his story doesn't add up to me.
33:46
Speaker 1: So what about it? You can't mathematically make it work.
33:50
Speaker 1: Two and two is not equaling four. What is the
33:54
Speaker 1: issue that concerns you? The most.
33:58
Speaker 4: The issue that concerns me the most is we do
34:03
Speaker 4: know that the weather, like the lawyer said, at some
34:06
Speaker 4: point that evening got bad. We have people that I
34:08
Speaker 4: trust that we're boating in the area that report, Hey,
34:11
Speaker 4: the weather got squarely that night. But the Sea Abaco
34:16
Speaker 4: and the ant Pat's Anchorage and that area is completely different. Right.
34:22
Speaker 4: So I talked to a gentleman who owns a house
34:24
Speaker 4: on Elbow k and it looks out over the Sea Abaco,
34:27
Speaker 4: and he said, yeah, you know, it got pretty choppy
34:29
Speaker 4: out there, but that's over where that yellow line is
34:32
Speaker 4: in your picture, not over where the red arrows are
34:35
Speaker 4: in between the two land masses. And if he if
34:40
Speaker 4: the weather and wind was that bad and he's in
34:42
Speaker 4: a dinghi and the wind is blowing him to Marsh Harbor,
34:45
Speaker 4: the timeframe to get to Marsh Harbor doesn't add up
34:50
Speaker 4: to me. And the fact that when search and rescue
34:53
Speaker 4: was out three hours later they see the green float.
34:56
Speaker 4: He threw, how does the float float within three hour
35:00
Speaker 4: timeframe of the dean it to end up within three
35:05
Speaker 4: hundred yards of each other, three hundred feet of each other?
35:08
Speaker 4: As he says, you know, I went out and I
35:11
Speaker 4: tried this. I threw a dry bag off of my boat,
35:13
Speaker 4: and I've seen how fast I separated from it. And
35:15
Speaker 4: a dry bag has more windage than that green float
35:18
Speaker 4: and my Deani drifted away from it at a rapid pace.
35:22
Speaker 4: There for both of them to end up in Marsh
35:25
Speaker 4: Harbor within three hours of each other. The math isn't math.
35:31
Speaker 1: Also with us, Jordan Plants, a neighbor of Lynette and
35:36
Speaker 1: Brian Hooker. Jordan lives across the street from Brian and Lynette. Jordan,
35:43
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being with us tonight, along
35:45
Speaker 1: with Vanessa Walt. What was the nature of their relationship, Jordan.
35:50
Speaker 5: It's their mom's house that lives across from me, but
35:53
Speaker 5: they stay here in the off season when they're not sailing,
35:56
Speaker 5: so I know them in this neighborhood. We kind of
36:00
Speaker 5: grew up together for years. You know, everyone has lived
36:04
Speaker 5: here four years, like my family's been on.
36:06
Speaker 2: This lake for eighty years.
36:07
Speaker 5: But they would live here when their mom would go
36:09
Speaker 5: to Florida when they're not sailing. But the nature of
36:12
Speaker 5: their relationship, like I said in the Detroit News, when
36:18
Speaker 5: I just woke up from a night shift, I said,
36:21
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not surprised because I knew from her mom,
36:24
Speaker 5: you know, there was some domestic violence going on, a
36:27
Speaker 5: pattern of it, and there was a time, I think
36:29
Speaker 5: two years ago, she let me know that Lynette was
36:31
Speaker 5: staying at her house to like kind of get away
36:35
Speaker 5: from that relationship, right, So she stayed there for a
36:38
Speaker 5: few months, and then she ended up getting back with Brian.
36:42
Speaker 5: From my understanding, but I never really dug into it
36:44
Speaker 5: as much. You know, they stored their truck in my backyard.
36:48
Speaker 5: You know, their cars across the street. But you know,
36:52
Speaker 5: I knew that something was going on from her mom, Darlene.
36:57
Speaker 5: And right now, I think it's tough because you want
37:00
Speaker 5: to support the family and trying to find Lynette, because
37:04
Speaker 5: it doesn't make sense. Right where we grow up, like
37:08
Speaker 5: everybody is a good swimmer. We spend every hour we
37:12
Speaker 5: can in the summer on the lake. You know, even
37:15
Speaker 5: Lynette grew up here and she It just doesn't make sense.
37:19
Speaker 1: You're saying, Jordan Plants, it doesn't make sense because Lynette
37:23
Speaker 1: is such a great swimmer and spends a lot of
37:27
Speaker 1: time on the water. You do believe it would have
37:30
Speaker 1: happened like this, what?
37:32
Speaker 5: No, she grew up sailing. I mean, even with her dad,
37:35
Speaker 5: even as a kid, she was sailing. They have a
37:38
Speaker 5: sailboat her mom does in the garage that they practice
37:41
Speaker 5: sailing on before they could walk. So it doesn't make
37:46
Speaker 5: sense to me, and the story doesn't add up, and
37:50
Speaker 5: it's it's tough because you know, somebody lost their daughter
37:54
Speaker 5: and their mother and now she's still not found.
37:58
Speaker 1: Jordan Plants, I want you to live. Listen very carefully
38:02
Speaker 1: to the sound that we have obtained from Vanessa Waltz,
38:06
Speaker 1: who is with us, the star of Unmasked True Crime.
38:10
Speaker 1: Here is the husband's explanation. It's long, it's rambling, it's circuitous,
38:18
Speaker 1: but it's very probative. See if this rings true in
38:22
Speaker 1: your mind, Jordan Plants, Okay, let's listen. I'll be caught
38:25
Speaker 1: on tape.
38:26
Speaker 10: She basically just bounced off the dinghy in the middle
38:29
Speaker 10: of a little blow like twenty some nine winds that
38:33
Speaker 10: popped up and on a pretty cool half mile maybe
38:37
Speaker 10: tripped back.
38:37
Speaker 11: To the Guinea Angle. Thing failed, Uh, every single thing.
38:45
Speaker 11: We weren't wearing my JACKET'SFCI.
38:51
Speaker 9: It was sundown and the sunset like basically ten minutes after.
38:56
Speaker 14: She fell over.
39:00
Speaker 11: Killed her with her because it wasn't clip to anything
39:02
Speaker 11: or anybody, and she had the spare dinghy key in
39:05
Speaker 11: her dry bag, which was with her.
39:07
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was inflated.
39:10
Speaker 13: I mean inflated because it was folded.
39:12
Speaker 12: But the wind blew us apart so fast that I
39:16
Speaker 12: think I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat,
39:20
Speaker 12: back to our sailboat, which was probably I don't know,
39:24
Speaker 12: a thousand yards or something.
39:27
Speaker 13: But the wigs were three foot and I was trying
39:31
Speaker 13: to ship to oars and one of the pends on
39:33
Speaker 13: the oars broken, dropped over the side, and I was
39:37
Speaker 13: yelling for her the whole time, and I yelled to
39:40
Speaker 13: her that I lost the or, and I threw the
39:43
Speaker 13: anchor out and anchored the dinghy and just yeah, I yelled.
39:49
Speaker 13: I couldn't see her anymore. It was it was. The
39:52
Speaker 13: mood has not risen yet.
39:54
Speaker 1: Now you've heard that recorded conversation, and I imagine there
39:59
Speaker 1: will be more. What do you think.
40:05
Speaker 5: It's kind of hard to digest. I mean, it's just
40:08
Speaker 5: it's sad knowing that she had all the support to
40:11
Speaker 5: leave didn't leave, and now we're still searching.
40:14
Speaker 1: For her body.
40:15
Speaker 5: And I do believe like he's the only person that
40:18
Speaker 5: knows the truth, and I think that he needs to
40:20
Speaker 5: stay there until the truth comes out, because Darlene and
40:24
Speaker 5: her daughter Carly deserves that, truthfully, and nothing's going to
40:28
Speaker 5: bring her back. But I think finding a body and
40:31
Speaker 5: then also finding the truth, I think more pressure we're
40:34
Speaker 5: gonna know what really happened to Lynette. And it just
40:38
Speaker 5: breaks my heart for the family. I just I can't imagine.
40:41
Speaker 5: I'm a mother and losing my daughter doesn't matter what age.
40:46
Speaker 5: I just I feel so heavy for that family, and
40:49
Speaker 5: we're all really close in this community, so it's just
40:52
Speaker 5: it's a hard hit.
40:53
Speaker 1: Well, Jordan, what can you tell me about the times
40:56
Speaker 1: that Lynette Hooker actually moved out, according to reports, because
41:02
Speaker 1: of domestic violence.
41:05
Speaker 5: I Darlene just kind of let me know because I
41:07
Speaker 5: kind of watch over the house when she's in Florida, like, hey,
41:11
Speaker 5: Lenette's going to be there. You know, they're not really
41:14
Speaker 5: getting along. She's moving out. I don't really question it.
41:18
Speaker 5: She didn't really come out of the house much. I mean,
41:19
Speaker 5: if she wasn't working, she would just stay in. It's
41:23
Speaker 5: cold here, so there's not much to do in the
41:25
Speaker 5: winter time, so I didn't really see her as much.
41:29
Speaker 5: I would just check in with Darlene and ask her
41:32
Speaker 5: how she's doing, and then I would see him come
41:35
Speaker 5: randomly one day and I'd be confused, and then she'd
41:39
Speaker 5: be gone, and then they're off sailing again in their sailboat.
41:44
Speaker 1: Vanessa waltsh joining us and mass True Crime podcast. What
41:48
Speaker 1: do you know regarding corroboration of those times Lynette would leave?
41:54
Speaker 14: So there were a few things I noticed in their
41:55
Speaker 14: social media as far as they're posting, that could point
41:58
Speaker 14: to some potential red flags leading up to her disappearance.
42:03
Speaker 14: So I went through the Hooker's YouTube channel post by post,
42:06
Speaker 14: and their pattern of posting was pretty consistent. It was
42:09
Speaker 14: every one to three days up until March. So on
42:13
Speaker 14: March tenth, Lynette's posts she posts a normal video and
42:17
Speaker 14: then the channel goes completely dark for nine days, which
42:21
Speaker 14: is the longest gap by far going back months. Bennette's
42:25
Speaker 14: mother says that Lynette purchased a one way plane ticket
42:28
Speaker 14: to leave Brian. It was scheduled for March eleventh, the
42:31
Speaker 14: day after that post, but she never gone on the plane.
42:34
Speaker 14: And then after that nine day gap, Lynette starts posting
42:37
Speaker 14: again like normal on March nineteenth, So My question was,
42:41
Speaker 14: you know what happened during that those nine days. Did
42:44
Speaker 14: Brian find out that she was going to leave to
42:46
Speaker 14: be found out about the plane ticket? Did this cause
42:49
Speaker 14: even more tension and they're already troubled relationship. I just
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Speaker 14: thought it was an interesting gap from their normal posting.
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Speaker 15: Doctor Bethany Marshall Way in so many risk factors for
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Speaker 15: violence here, one noteworthy one is that he choked her
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Speaker 15: to the point where she felt a pop in her neck.
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Speaker 15: Nancy selling her house if she sold it to make
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Speaker 15: him happy, and she did not want to sell it,
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Speaker 15: that tells me that he's liquidating her access her assets,
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Speaker 15: so he could potentially have access to them. How do
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Speaker 15: they afford to be out on the water for ten
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Speaker 15: years not working. She wants to go back to work,
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Speaker 15: but he is discouraging it. And this is what abusers
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Speaker 15: do to the victims. They isolate them from their friends
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Speaker 15: and from the rest of society so they can have
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Speaker 15: control over them, and they do discourage them from having
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Speaker 15: their own separate resources. So as this case progresses, I'm
43:44
Speaker 15: going to ask a few questions and look, did he
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Speaker 15: have a girlfriend, what were his online habits? Was he
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Speaker 15: chatting with somebody looking at pornography excessively, who had access
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Speaker 15: to her bank account?
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Speaker 2: Did he have access?
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Speaker 15: Was there money being moved around at the time of
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Speaker 15: her death?
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Speaker 16: I asked Brian, where's Lynette? And he said, well, we're
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Speaker 16: not getting along. We're separated, and I don't know when
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Speaker 16: we're going to get back together if we get back together. Basically,
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Speaker 16: I don't think Lynette and Brian should have been together.
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Speaker 16: It just seemed like it got bad. Lynette should never
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Speaker 16: be in that water, and I feel for her daughter,
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Speaker 16: and I can't even imagine it. I can't even imagine it.
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Speaker 1: That is Donna Hooker, Brian Hooker's stepmother, from our friends
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Speaker 1: at WZZM joining us our friend Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations
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Speaker 1: USPA nation Wide Security, leading a team of investigators around
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Speaker 1: the world, including the Bahamas, finding and extracting missing people.
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Speaker 1: He is a former Marine Iraqi war Vet. Brian, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us now. I want to go
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Speaker 1: back to where the search is happen now. When it
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Speaker 1: began leaving the water, According to what we've been told,
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Speaker 1: it started on the edges of the land where her
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Speaker 1: body could have floated after going overboard, but it's past that.
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Speaker 17: Yeah, at least Nancy, we know that extensive canine searches
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Speaker 17: have happened, not only over the water. These canines are
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Speaker 17: able to detect anything coming up from under over thirty
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Speaker 17: feet of water, believe it or not, So that search
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Speaker 17: took place. They searched the shoreline and they also extensively
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Speaker 17: searched Abaco Island Elbow k where they were in their
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Speaker 17: final recorded moments together. So you know, a lot's going
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Speaker 17: to unfold here. I'm keen to find out the digital
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Speaker 17: evidence in this case.
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Speaker 1: Explain.
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Speaker 17: I want to know if Brian attempted to make a
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Speaker 17: call during this multi hour period that he was traversing
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Speaker 17: or allegedly traversing from Abaco to Marsh Harbor. So did
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Speaker 17: he try to make a call? Is there any information
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Speaker 17: from Lynette's recovered Apple watch that, according to some photos
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Speaker 17: posted online, were with her at the Abaco Inn just
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Speaker 17: moments minutes before she would have gotten onto this dinghy.
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Speaker 17: And then the last piece of information is did that
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Speaker 17: soulmate vessel move and does it contradict anything Brian gave
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Speaker 17: in his multi hour statement to police.
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Speaker 1: You were talking about canines searching land and water. Here's
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Speaker 1: canine specialist Dave Moyer. First of all, canacadaver dog pick
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Speaker 1: up the scent of a dead body in water?
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Speaker 18: Yes, ma'am, they absolutely can. As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 18: there's a whole extension of the could ever discipline that
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Speaker 18: focuses primarily on dogs on boats being able to detect
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Speaker 18: people in the water column. The circumstances of this case
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Speaker 18: make it exceedingly difficult for these canines to actually be
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Speaker 18: able to accomplish this due to the duration a sense
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Speaker 18: this action event actually occurred, and all of the live
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Speaker 18: dynamic action of that salt water, sallow, shallow, warm, salt
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Speaker 18: water is just full of all kinds of predatory creatures, currents,
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Speaker 18: and environmental conditions that quite honestly would bring a body
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Speaker 18: to the surface very rapidly.
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Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about Lynette's disappearance,
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Speaker 1: please call toll free eight hundred four two four eight
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Speaker 1: eight zero two repeat eight hundred four two four eight
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Speaker 1: eight zero two for the US Coast Guards. An American hero,
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Speaker 1: Deputy Sheriff Douglas Hannah Washdot County Sheriff's, Oklahoma, killed in
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Speaker 1: the line of duty, leaving behind two sons without a dad.
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Speaker 1: Kellen and Kyler American Hero Deputy Sheriff Douglas Hannah, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much to Carley for being with us tonight,
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Speaker 1: and also to you for keeping the search for Lynette
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Speaker 1: Hooker alive. Nancy Gray signing off for tonight. I'll see
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow night, and until then, good night, friend,