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Ep. 79: Drinking With... Million Dollar Baby · Nashville Movie Dispatch

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  Speaker 1: The Sobros Network presents the Movie podcast, breaking down films
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  Speaker 1: and their impact on pop culture as they approach the
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  Speaker 1: legal drinking age.
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  Speaker 2: This is Drinking With.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's your host, Steven m cash.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Drinking With, the podcast where we raise a
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  Speaker 3: glass to the movies that have reached the legal drinking age.
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host, Steve mccash or the Sobros Network, and
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  Speaker 3: join me as we embarked on a cinematic journey through
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  Speaker 3: the classics of yesteryear, celebrating their twenty first birthdays in style.
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  Speaker 3: From iconic blockbusters to hidden gems, each episode will toast
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  Speaker 3: to a different film that has stood the test of
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  Speaker 3: time and shaped our cultural landscape. So grab your favorite
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  Speaker 3: beverage or the one we've curated for this episode, and
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  Speaker 3: let's dive into the nostalgia as we explore movies that
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  Speaker 3: are finally old enough to drink. To join us for
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  Speaker 3: a drink at the bar. Now, joining me at the bar,
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  Speaker 3: as always, are the two best people I can think
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  Speaker 3: of to stumble out of a bar after a long
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  Speaker 3: discussion of movies. First, the resident film critic of the
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  Speaker 3: Sobros Network, mister Brandon Vick, who's also a member of
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  Speaker 3: the Southeastern Film Critics Association, a board member of the
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  Speaker 3: Music City Films Critics Association, and most importantly, the birthgiver
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  Speaker 3: of the Vick Flicks and Cinema Chronicles podcast that you
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  Speaker 3: can hear wherever you get your podcasts from. And joining
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  Speaker 3: him is the man behind the Sobros Network, the EI
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  Speaker 3: see the glue of the brand. A jennifishonado of somebody
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  Speaker 3: who has proven to be an all around cat lover
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  Speaker 3: and football wordsmith and also a budding sports talk radio star.
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  Speaker 3: He is the man, the myth, the legend. Mister Stony Keeley.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for the warm introductions, mcash. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting hyped up before a boxing match.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I was about to remind everybody how you get
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  Speaker 3: Animal House one star but Scoob two and a half stars. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: but dicided otherwise. But then I guess I just did it.
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  Speaker 2: Still, Well, Scoob's a better movie than a House, So
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  Speaker 2: there you have it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you're trying to deliver a knockout before the fight
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  Speaker 3: has even started, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you're the one that brought up Animal House, and
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  Speaker 2: now I'm mad about that movie.
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  Speaker 4: That's right about Glins fighters.
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  Speaker 3: Back to your corners. Let's how are we doing this
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  Speaker 3: fall U afternoon?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm feeling great. This is the most wonderful
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  Speaker 2: time of the year. So I'm I'm stoked.
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  Speaker 4: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: Don't have to mow the art anymore.
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  Speaker 4: That's right. And everything's dead and everything's.
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  Speaker 3: Dead and cold. Yeah, I love it. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 3: just the beginning of November. I don't think everything's dead.
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  Speaker 4: Just oh, come over to my house, pal, everything's dead.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're we're close to it's usually the first
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  Speaker 2: or second week of November. That's peak leaf season. So yeah, there,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, there's still like a couple more weeks of
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  Speaker 2: life left.
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  Speaker 4: I think we're still I mean, we're probably in more
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  Speaker 4: like I mean, you know, I'm just trying to imagine
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  Speaker 4: life in November in Tennessee. Yeah, not that I'm living
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  Speaker 4: it right now, but.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think we're outside.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I wore a jacket over here. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: had a gun in it.
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  Speaker 2: You left him, You left him too long to dangle
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  Speaker 2: the cash. Give him, give him enough time. He's going
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  Speaker 2: to come up with something, all right.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, I love the season. I love it. It's
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  Speaker 4: it's the holiday, Christmases is before you know it, and
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  Speaker 4: then you know that after New Year's it gets kind
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  Speaker 4: of depressing. But that's okay.
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  Speaker 3: This is that time of year. It's early November where
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  Speaker 3: you know, you start getting inklings of what's to come
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  Speaker 3: in in movies as far as award season, as starting
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  Speaker 3: to like, you know, get off the ground. No award
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  Speaker 3: shows yet, but you know the films themselves are getting
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  Speaker 3: ready to come out. And this is one of those
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  Speaker 3: films we're going to talk about today, and we're talking
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  Speaker 3: about Million Dollar Baby, a two thousand and four film
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  Speaker 3: that it's I could you have to put a little
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  Speaker 3: asterisk next to it because there's really only a two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and four film by like twelve or thirteen days,
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  Speaker 3: barely two weeks if that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But Million Dollar Baby is all about determined underdog Maggie
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  Speaker 3: Fitzgerald and her dreams of becoming a professional boxer, as
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  Speaker 3: she convinces the hard and distant trainer Frankie Dunn to
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  Speaker 3: take her under his wing as their bond grows tied.
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  Speaker 3: Of the film explores themes of sacrifice, perseverance, and love
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  Speaker 3: and loss. I had never seen this film before.
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't either this was the first time for me too.
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  Speaker 3: There's a film I always wanted to come around to,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm glad I waited as long as I did
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  Speaker 3: to see it, because I was a hot mess when
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  Speaker 3: this movie was over.
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  Speaker 2: Man. The last like, I mean, like, thirty minutes of
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  Speaker 2: this film are just it is you kind of a
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  Speaker 2: knockout punch. It's a knockout punch. Like I got in
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  Speaker 2: in a motional state and stayed in an emotional state
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  Speaker 2: for like thirty thirty minutes of the back half from
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  Speaker 2: from the match till the end, and it is it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's rough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The first hour and a half or so, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, And I knew coming into the film, like
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  Speaker 3: what happens to the character of Maggie in the end
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  Speaker 3: of the film, But at the first hour and a half,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't think we're anywhere near the dramatic
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  Speaker 3: turn this film needs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then bam, it just happens and it raises
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  Speaker 2: really difficult questions you'd have, Like you put yourself in
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  Speaker 2: this in the shoes of the characters Maggie and Frankie both,
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  Speaker 2: and you think about how you would approach something like that.
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  Speaker 2: In the moment, and it is. It's a very harrowing exercise.
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  Speaker 4: This is one of my favorite films of all time.
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  Speaker 4: This this is probably my favorite Clinticewood movie period. Yeah, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: in his younger days, not some of the stuff he's
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  Speaker 4: made since Grand Tarino, but Grand to Reno's up there
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  Speaker 4: and Mystic River's up there. I really enjoy those, which
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  Speaker 4: obviously he directed them all, but he's only in two
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  Speaker 4: of them. But yeah, I love Million Dollar Baby. I
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  Speaker 4: loved it when I saw it. The fact that it
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  Speaker 4: won some Oscars is no surprise, but I think it
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  Speaker 4: still holds up. It's still beautifully done, directed, written, act
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  Speaker 4: I mean everybody. I I not that I didn't appreciate
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  Speaker 4: him then, but I was really kind of in tune
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  Speaker 4: more of Morgan Freeman's character this time around, more than
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  Speaker 4: just with Frankie Maggie, because he plays such a pivotal
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  Speaker 4: part and you kind of understand why he's telling you
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  Speaker 4: this story at the end, but also what he I think,
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  Speaker 4: in story story wise, what he represents to both of
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  Speaker 4: these characters for them to go on this journey together
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  Speaker 4: to ultimately why the decision has to be made. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean they're great, and I know we'll talk about
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure on down, but you know, there's some familiar
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  Speaker 4: faces in this not doing what they're mostly known for.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, we'll get to that when we talk about
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  Speaker 3: the cast. But first of all, it was directed by,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, by Clint Eastwood. It was written by
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  Speaker 3: Paul Haggis, who also wrote Crash, which won a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of Academy Awards. He's written a number of James James
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  Speaker 3: Bond films, including Casino Royale, Quantum Solace, but he got
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  Speaker 3: his start in TV, writing for shows like La Law,
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  Speaker 3: thirty Something, Who's the Boss, as well as iconic cartoons
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  Speaker 3: such as Richie Rich plastic Man in the Happy Days
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  Speaker 3: cartoon Wow what a resume.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he directed, he directed Crash too. He became an
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  Speaker 4: oscar win.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, and you mentioned the cast. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 3: real quick. Hillary Swank as Maggie. You have Clint Eastwood
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  Speaker 3: doing double duty as director and as Frankie Dunn, and
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  Speaker 3: then Morgan Freeman, who's your narrator throughout the film, but
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  Speaker 3: he's also obviously on screen as Eddie Duprees. And then
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  Speaker 3: there's an eclectic group of co stars people that I
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  Speaker 3: did not expect to see in this film and did
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  Speaker 3: not know they were in the film before watching it recently.
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  Speaker 3: J Beerschill, I think that's how you say his name?
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  Speaker 3: Who I know from almost famous, She's out of my league,
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  Speaker 3: Tropic Thunder especially ye, this is the end?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, knocked up right? Yeah, and the voice of Hiccup.
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  Speaker 3: That's true and forget. Then you have Anthony Mackie, who
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  Speaker 3: is known from hert locker The Notorious, The Notorious Pig film,
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  Speaker 3: Captain America and variety of Avenger films. In the mcuh
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  Speaker 3: these are two names I didn't think to.
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  Speaker 2: See, and I mean Margo Martin Deelle shows up. Michael
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  Speaker 2: Pena is in this as well.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, forgot, he's Anthony Mackie's buddy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I did not even realize Big Willie was Mike Colter.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't really catch it. Luke Cage, Oh yeah I did.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah again, they're skinnier, yeah, not as muscular.
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  Speaker 3: With Margo Martindale. I'm actually in a film with her
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  Speaker 3: that I do not remember her being in. She was
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  Speaker 3: in the Firm.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, oh wow.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like she's been in a ton like she's
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  Speaker 4: just a familiar face. But she ended up finding some
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  Speaker 4: I forgot what limited series or show it was in,
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  Speaker 4: but she started like her name started to come up
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  Speaker 4: a lot, and then I kind of still remember her
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  Speaker 4: films now and let me tell you, she is a
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  Speaker 4: hoot in Cocaine Bear.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she's Cocaine Bear. She was in The Americans with
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  Speaker 3: Kerrie Russell.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. That was the one, and walk.
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  Speaker 3: Hard the Dewey Cox story as.
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  Speaker 4: Well, shit acclaim everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Michael who mostly I loved him an end
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  Speaker 3: of Watch, but he was also an American hustle Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: chips and ant man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then lastly, another comedic presence which I did not
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  Speaker 3: see coming at all was Ricky Lindholm, who is one
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  Speaker 3: half of the comedy duo Garfunkle and Oates, but is
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  Speaker 3: also known from her appearances in The Knives Out film
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  Speaker 3: and Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That was I like you was a little taken
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  Speaker 2: aback by that some of the choices, like for this
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  Speaker 2: to be such a dramatic, heartfelt film, and then you
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  Speaker 2: see some of these actors pop up. It's kind of like,
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  Speaker 2: what movie am I in?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm ready to be the beginning for a
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  Speaker 4: lot of room too. So I guess that's why none
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  Speaker 4: of them are familiar two thousand and four or five.
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  Speaker 3: But that's what I was gonna say. In two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and four, I would have not known who any anybody
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  Speaker 3: was outside of Clean Easwood and Morgan Freeman.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't know Hillary Swank.
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  Speaker 3: I knew she existed. I don't remember what she was
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  Speaker 3: in prior to this movie.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I will tell you this, and it might be
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  Speaker 4: in your notes. But she's already an Oscar winner by then.
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  Speaker 4: Oh she Boys Don't Cry?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I never saw that.
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  Speaker 4: She won Best Actress for Boys Don't Cry?
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  Speaker 2: What you do in these days?
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  Speaker 4: She was in some Alaska show, like a detective thing
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  Speaker 4: Hillary Speak and Jody Foster. No, she was in some
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  Speaker 4: kind of detective show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I forgot, How can I forget?
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  Speaker 4: Ordinary Angels exactly exactly? Which was sort of like a
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  Speaker 4: a blind side kind of role.
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  Speaker 2: It was weird Alaska Daily.
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  Speaker 4: That's it. Yeah, I knew it was Alaska.
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  Speaker 3: Never heard of it.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't either, but I did know that. I think
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  Speaker 4: it was on Hulu or something. But I did remember
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  Speaker 4: seeing her, But I don't know. I mean, she's a
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  Speaker 4: two time Oscar winner, but she's it's kind of you know,
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  Speaker 4: she did the Core remember that classic sci.
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  Speaker 3: Fi Supposedly she's in Yellow Jackets.
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  Speaker 2: Man, like, oh boy. Her filmography the last yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: don't don't.
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  Speaker 3: That's it's very John Cusack.
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  Speaker 2: The last decade or so.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember PS I Love You.
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  Speaker 3: That's the last one I remember that. I'm looking at.
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  Speaker 4: But she But then I'm also wondering, like, was there
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  Speaker 4: a phase where like she just didn't really take that
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  Speaker 4: much because I read a thing here a few months
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  Speaker 4: ago that, uh, they tried to get her to come
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  Speaker 4: do some episodes for Cobra Kai, but according to them,
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  Speaker 4: she said it just never really like made that much
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  Speaker 4: sense for her to do it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, let's raise a raise a glass to Hillary
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  Speaker 3: Swank and her biography. I have a drink for a
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  Speaker 3: million dollar baby. I changed the name on it because
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't pronounce the name. I was going to give
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  Speaker 3: it the nick the name of the nickname that is
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  Speaker 3: given to Maggie, but I'm not gonna butcher it, so
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  Speaker 3: I just changed it to the hit Pit. And the
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  Speaker 3: hit Pit is the name of the gem that's actually
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  Speaker 3: in the film that is used. Okay, and the hit
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  Speaker 3: Pit contains two ounces of bourbon, a half ounce of
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  Speaker 3: sweet verm youth, a half ounce of elderflower liqueur, and
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  Speaker 3: a quarter ounce of fresh lime juice with a dash
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  Speaker 3: of bitters. What you're gonna do add all your ingredients
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  Speaker 3: into a shaker with ice and shake well, and then
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  Speaker 3: strain into a martini glass. Garnish with a lemon twist
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  Speaker 3: and a cherry. It's a smooth but bowl drink, perfect
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  Speaker 3: for toasting resilient heart and a knockout performance.
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  Speaker 2: Hit you right in the chest, right in the chest.
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  Speaker 2: Lemon and cherry is an underrated combo. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: the lemon twist and the yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Those are my favorite starbursts. So I agree with you, sir.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I just pop a couple of those down in here too.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Now, I did say this film is barely a
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and four film, and we're gonna talk about
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  Speaker 3: money real quick. In the year two thousand and four,
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  Speaker 3: it made a whopping eight hundred and forty two two
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  Speaker 3: and fifty three dollars. Hell, yeah, we'll get into the
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  Speaker 3: box office. But what do we think the budget for
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  Speaker 3: a million dollar baby was? Hold?
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  Speaker 4: Can I just say that for people that don't know.
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  Speaker 4: This is what they would call an academy run, so
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  Speaker 4: it qualifies for the Oscars. And if you do it
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  Speaker 4: in New York and LA and at least do it.
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  Speaker 4: I think back then it used to be a week
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  Speaker 4: or two weeks. But a lot of films would do it.
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  Speaker 4: American Sniper did it, one of Cleanestwood's movies at Bradley Cooper.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of them would kind of do this little
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  Speaker 4: academy run and then most of us would see it,
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  Speaker 4: like in January.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, December fifth in New York City is what Wikipedia says,
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  Speaker 2: and then December fifteenth in the LA United States.
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  Speaker 3: It was nine theaters rolled out on December fifteenth.
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  Speaker 4: So listen, almost a million dollars for let's just say,
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  Speaker 4: what ten theaters? Maybe that's hey, come on, So anyway,
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  Speaker 4: if we've just mentioned that, it's barely oh four. But
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  Speaker 4: that's why we're doing it because it did technically have
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  Speaker 4: its release, even though it didn't get its wide one
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  Speaker 4: until January. But go ahead, sorry, So this is budget, right, budget?
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  Speaker 3: What do we think the budget for a million dollar baby?
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  Speaker 4: You got some famous people.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna say, oh man, but.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like Eastwood shoots cheap though.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like we've talked about that before.
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  Speaker 4: I think so too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say twenty five.
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  Speaker 4: I was I was thinking maybe like forty three.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty five and forty three. I actually, I actually, now
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  Speaker 3: that you mentioned Mystic River, I want to see what
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  Speaker 3: it's budget was, because I don't remember off the top
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  Speaker 3: of my head, but I can pull it up real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Do we want to guess Mystic Rivers budget again?
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't that in the twenties?
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  Speaker 2: Seventeen million?
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  Speaker 3: All right? Let me let me, let me get this again.
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  Speaker 3: What did you guys say for a million dollar baby?
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  Speaker 3: And I'll tell twenty five, forty three, twenty five and
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  Speaker 3: forty three. All right, So the budget for Mystic River
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  Speaker 3: was twenty five million.
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  Speaker 2: Well maybe that's why it's in my head.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're not far off. The budget for a
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  Speaker 3: million dollar baby thirty million dollars. And let's put in
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  Speaker 3: that to some correlations. The budget for Friday Night Lights
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  Speaker 3: that we just did two months ago was also thirty
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  Speaker 3: million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: You got different resultsast, but that's not fair because the
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  Speaker 4: cast is vastly different. So that's that's not fair.
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  Speaker 3: And also million Dollar Baby did not get a TV
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  Speaker 3: spin off.
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  Speaker 2: It did not.
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  Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. I wish it did.
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: You could have because this was based off of a
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  Speaker 2: book that was like a collection of stories like this.
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  Speaker 4: I would love to know if he bought that cafe
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  Speaker 4: the diner? Yeah, or is it just a season of
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  Speaker 4: him trying different pies?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it becomes you could go a number of ways,
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  Speaker 5: Well there was maybe maybe he becomes Andy Griffith and
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  Speaker 5: waitress and you get million Dollar Waitress exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, now we're cooking.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, Hollywood, Andy Griffin.
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  Speaker 4: That's a legendary piater and take that for legendary piaters.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Is that our favorite piles?
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: And I bet stop it be's body, don't water out,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: don't leave those two alone.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there it is. There's a callback. We obviously realized
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: that Million Dollar Baby is episode three of the day.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: For those keeping score at home, look, Million Dollar Baby,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: like we said, open December fifteenth, two thousand and four,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: and nine theaters. It rolled out to one hundred and
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: nine theaters on January seven, which it finally rolled out
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: to over two thousand screens the weekend of January twenty eighth,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: and had compiled nine point four million dollars to that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: point on one hundred and forty seven screens. There's the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: reason why I'm saying this week one. Back in December,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: it was the twenty fourth ranked film. Week two, it
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: dropped to twenty six. Week three, it dropped to twenty seventh.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: When it moved to one hundred and nine screens, it
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: jumped up to fifteenth, Man fourteenth, and week five on
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty two screens. You're seeing a trajectory here.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Week six it moved up to twelfth on one hundred
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and forty seven screens, and then week seven it finished
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: third on twenty and ten screens, behind the films Are
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: We There Yet? And Hide and Seek, of course. So
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: my question to you boys is what was the wide
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: release opening weekend box office the weekend of January twenty
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: eighth to thirty four million dollar? Baby US Canada?
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: And Are We There Yet? Is number one?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: With ice Cube?
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I'm going to say seventeen million.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say eleven.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: Seventeen and eleven. Brandon is the closest without going over
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: at twelve point two six five million dollars.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: There you have it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: And I will say a lot of times, and I
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: mean anybody that kind of keeps up with like award season,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: like you said, by the time October November is kind
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: of award season kickoff and everything. But back then the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Oscars came out, the Oscars were in February, yes, which
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: means that by the time Million Dollar Baby is opening
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: up in over one hundred screens of two thousand screens,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: it's got those you know previews on TV that says
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: it's been nominated for eight Academy Awards and stuff like that,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: so it's it's got some momentum behind it by then, Yeah,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: it does, because now, like I don't even they're not
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: even announced till now into January, maybe February.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's February when their announce and then.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: March has been which I wish. I kind of wish
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: they would put it back in February. I agree, but
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: they did it because of COVID and never went back.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: So your US Canada total box office was one hundred
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: and a half million dollars, uh dang. And this is
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: because worldwide it brought in just under two hundred and
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: seventeen million dollars, which means the international audience has loved
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: this film now way more than American audiences.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: Did you mean people love Clint Eastwood. Yeah, that's all
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: over the world.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: That's fascinating. What is it about this film that draws
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: such a global audience.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Well, boxing is an international sport, if they're.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Ever true true, and I think you've got I mean,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: it's kind of like how they say, like Tom Cruise
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: is an international star. I think if you don't, I mean,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: everybody knows Clint Eastwood. Even if you don't, you know,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I think fans of his just show up anyway. Yeah,
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: most of them are dead now.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: But or maybe it's because a lot of the world
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: is like Brandon and they love to see women die
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: on film.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Could be like wait a minute, Hillary Swing dies in this, Okay,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: get you come on, kids, Come on, kids, everybody, come on,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: let's go watch.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So the French especially loved this film because they brought
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: twenty two point one million dollars. Our friends in Spain
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: sixteen million dollars, and we haven't visited them in a
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: while because they haven't been on the roster. But Bulgaria
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: impressive forty one thousand dollars.
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: Get it. Bulgaria, man, get it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: There's little pocket of Clin east Wood fans oll but.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: Not many in Lithuania as it only brought in thirty
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: five hundred dollars at the box of k What indeed.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: What theaters are showing these in Lithuania? Like? Do they
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: have a version of the Bill Court out there that's like, Oh,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: there's this American filmmaker Clin Eastwood.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: Have you heard of it?
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I wonder if you think there's a chance that you
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: could become our fifty second state.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: They should just to teach them a lesson.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Have they named the fifty first and I missed it?
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Canada?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, Canada. I didn't know if it was going to
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: be Greenland.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Or some executive order thing. I'm not sure. I just
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: know that now on the map they're known as the Canadia.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Saw Well, at the time that's taping, it could be
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Iran for all we know.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: It's true.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: That's true. That's that's what's fun about America. Now. There's
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: so many options that's.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Wild to think about. As we're sitting here recording this,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: By the time this is released, there may be.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: A full blown world war.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Going on, and we're here talking about Million Dollar Baby.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Business. The NFL season has been canceled, you know, yeah,
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: oh man, the draft has been reinstated. Yeah, those are
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: darker times. We're already talking about a dark movie to
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: begin with. Let's talk Let's talk about ratings and reviews
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: on Rotten Tomatoes, the Tomato meter. There's two hundred and
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: sixty eight reviews. What do we think the critics thought
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: of Million Dollar Baby?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: This has got to be one of those I'm gonna say,
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going to stay ninety six percent.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say ninety three.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You both shot over a little bit. Ninety percent. That
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: surprises me to be honest, nine out of ten and
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Dennis agree o, yeah yeah. And then the Popcorn Meter,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the you know, the Everyday Joe. Two hundred and fifty
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: thousand plus reviews on Rotten Tomatoes for a Million Dollar Baby.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: What do we think this sits at?
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think it starts with a nine.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I don't either, because I this probably feels.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna say seventy nine.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was gonna say eighty one.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say eighty two, eighty.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Two, seventy nine, and eighty two. Actually everybody is on
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: agreement that at ninety percent is the rating for both
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Popcorn Meter and Tomato Meter.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I'm surprised usually when someone like when critics really love it,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: and again you're talking about an audience that may or
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: may not kind of appreciate Clint Eastwood. Yeah, what does that?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: And it's not like Hillary swink is like the Sandra
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Bullock or you know, I mean, that's just not who
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: she is, the top of actress she is.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at it as kind of like the reputation
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: for the Oscars for a long time, like the awards
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: and stuff was like, oh, boring or sad movies, and
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: this kind of feels like it's it's long.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: They're like, how come Aragon was it nomination?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: It's very sad. I could see like general moviegoers being like, nah,
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: this ain't no trying to accomplish on a Friday night.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: They said, wait a minute, a woman dies in this.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: That's maybe that's what it was.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: What sign me the fuck up? Yeah?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: The people on Letterbox had some wanted to weigh in
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: with their thoughts as well, and Anto gave it four
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: and a half stars. And says Rocky is for boys,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: million Dollar Baby is for men.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I like it.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I'll drink to that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes. Matt the Snapper, Great Name four and a
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: half Stars says it's like Eastwood took the plot of
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Rocky five and said, I can do it better, and
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: my god he did. Yeah, it does do one. It continues.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: While I prefer Mystic River as an overall movie, the
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: last third of a Million Dollar Baby is just masterful.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: That's what changes the film. Really, like up to that point,
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: the underdog story, the old I mean, it is sort
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: of like Rocky Mickey, like it is like, oh, she's
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: a girl. But then what you don't realize is what
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: this is actually building too, and it's not. It was
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: never about that championship fight anyway, And that's I think
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: that's why you have someone like Eastwood that is kind
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: of looking beyond just that. I mean, listen, there's a
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: lot of boxing tropes in this, but there's always something there,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: and I think it I think it really kind of
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: does come from the writing and the performances of like,
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: it's not just boxing. And then it's very clear in
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: the last like you said, half hour or so that
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: this has, This is has is far beyond the sport.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Uh. One person who didn't make it to that final
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: quarter or final third, excuse me, is j mart On Letterbox,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: who gave it two and a half stars and says
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: turned it off with thirty minutes left to watch Rocky. Sorry,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: not sorry.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: That's what a stupid what a dumb ass?
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you sit on a Coca cola bare ass a
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: coke zero, sir, I'm thinking. I'm thinking he needs a
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: two leader saying ship like that.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine. That's just some hater shit. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: can't imagine feeling like that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that goes back to rockies for boys and millionaires.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, there we go.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, sit on a cana but
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: tane and light a match.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: There we go, do it?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Do it?
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Who is this again? I don't care. I don't care.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: You should have done it. He shouldn't have done what
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: he did.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: He went too far.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: If you're gonna talk out of your ass, you need
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: to be lit by the.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Ass, right and he's explode to explode.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: We talked a lot about Award season. This film definitely
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: brought home a lot of gold Academy Awards is. Specifically,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: he was nominated seven times, winning four for Best Film, Actress,
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Supporting Actor, and Director, making Clint Eastwood at the time
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: the oldest person to win Best Director. I don't know
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: if he's been bested, since I didn't do that research,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: but I know he's oldest dirt.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Now Martin Scorsese won for The Departed, so.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: He might do that. But I didn't know if he
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: was older or not at the time.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Well, you know what, he's not. Eastwood's like ninety something.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is still the oldest director.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: But he's like Robert Redford never won an Oscar for acting.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see why. No offense to Clint Eastwood, but.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: He was nominated for a million dollar baby actor and
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: I've badly a limited one.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Do you remember lost Jamie Fox for red So there
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: you go. Take that lost Jamie Fox. And then the
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: other two was that they lost was adapted screenplay which
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: went to Sideways and film editing, which went to aviator.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Sossure says he was involved in that one, wasn't he well?
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: And then, like I said, this made Swank a two
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: time Best Actress winner, and for anybody keeping score at
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: home that thinks, oh, hey, how Morgan Freeman won for
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Best Supporting Actor? How many was that for him? That's
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: his only one?
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: That's kind of wild to think too, but.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: Hey, there he's got a good Uh. Tim Robbins won
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: for mister River those supporting characters in some Clint Easwood movies,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: which that why didn't Dwight Yoakam win for Cri macho.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I'll tell you why. It's an awful movie.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: But but come on, but yeah, I think all those
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: are well deserved. Morgan Freeman, Hillary Swing. I think it
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: was kind of a surprise because it was a late
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: addition to the Oscar Race, but the fact that it
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: did pick up director and picture, which I mean, looking back,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I have no I got no qualms about it,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: even though I think Sideway was nominated too, which I
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: really enjoyed a good film. But yeah, no, that's a
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: good that's a loaded that's a loaded oscars for a
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff. I think a lot of people would say, yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: those are those are some great films.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: I agree. So, uh. Billion Dollar Baby was based off
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: a collection of short stories that was in a book
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: called rope Burn Stories from the Corner by Steve by
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: no by one man named FX Toole, who was actually
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: better known as a longtime fight manager and cutman Jerry Boyd.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: The book was published in two thousand by HarperCollins, and
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Toole was a seventy at the time and had been
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: writing and battling rejection letters for forty years before getting published. Finally,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: and Roe Burns was his first published work, and soon
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: after its publication he was commissioned to write his first novel,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: an epic story set on the Texas Mexico border, but
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: sadly died in two thousand and two just before the
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: novel was finished, and he dedicated it to his partner
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: and longtime friend Dub Huntley.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: He'll being they always see, that's what happens.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: He got a late start, but the films was based
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: off three particular short stories from that book called The
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Monkey Look, Million Dollar Baby, and Frozen Water, with some
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: of the parts of the introduction used as well. And
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: then Hagis that we talked about would come on to
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: later write the screenplay, and Toole died sadly shortly after
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: learning Clint Eastwood had signed on to the films as
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: star and director.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Wait he was alive and filmed out.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Shortly died. After learning Clint the film.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: He was so happy it killed him. He thought, oh
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: my god, Clint Eastwood is going to direct and star
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: in this and a woman's going to die.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I'm about to get paid. Take me now, Take me now,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Good Lord, I've seen it all and then.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: And the good Lord said, you got it, buddy, come.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: On up or down. We don't know where he went.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying, well, right now, in my scenario, he's
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: talking to the Lord, so it has to be in
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: the clowns. Okay, that's my understanding of the Bible. You
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: go talk to the Lord and sit on a cloud.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I believe that is what I've read. Okay, yes, yes, well,
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: poor Well, at least he got to know that, you know,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: his stuff was in good hands.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Peter Berg wasn't going to direct it. He got it.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I will I will say. You know, we talked about
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: earlier about the lie of this movie at the box office,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: and it remained in the top five at the box
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: office from the time it was nominated for Oscars until
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: the actual ceremony, and it actually stayed in theaters for
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: six and a half months, which no film today could
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: even remotely get close to doing No.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: No, that's unheard. Yeah in this day and age.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the prepping in the shooting of A Million Dollar
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Baby was so quick that producer and director Clean Eastwood
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: basically kept the same crew as he used on Mystic
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: River because he pretty much directly went from one to
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: the other.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I was about to say, didn't we just talk about
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: mister River last year?
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: Last year we did?
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's uh.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: He was a run man.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: That's a that is a run.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: Yep, and uh. He this was not his first time
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: winning an Oscar for Best Director, as he did also
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: in nineteen for nineteen ninety three Is Unforgiven, which also
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: featured uh, Morgan Freeman.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: And one Gene Hackman Best Supporting Actor. Yeah, I'm telling you.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: And who else was in that? Richard h Dreyfus, No,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: he's dead now. I can't think of his name.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: I just remember Gene Hackman, Morgan Freeman, and Clint for
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: the most part.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: That's gonna bother me because he was also in Patriots Day.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Beats me. I'm lost on this one.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: Uh, Richard Harris, That's what I was thinking.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Yeah, I think His last film
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: was Gladiator, one of his I think we talked.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: We may have talked about that on like the second
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: episode ever of this podcast.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: We did, but I take that back because he was
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: the first Dumbledore and they had to recast because he
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: passed away after the first movie.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Richard Harris fan second.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Fan dressed up as him for Halloween when I was thirteen.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, here's a little fun, little triun knowledge of trivia.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Clint Eastwood, like I said, won Best Director in ninety
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: three front Forgiven, and he won Best Director in two
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: thousand and five for A Million Dollar Baby. He was
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: presented the award at the Oscars for both of those
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: awards by the same person. And it's the one and
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: only Barbara Streissan.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: How about that?
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: How about that?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And this is one of two boxing films to ever
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: win Best Picture at the Academy Awards.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: The Best Picture the other one. Are we supposed to guess?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Or are you gonna tell us?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I thought I put this in my notes, but I
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: don't have it in my notes, but I think I
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: have one. I think it's one of two movies.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I think it was Rocky, wasn't it Rocky won Best Picture,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: did it? I think?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: So? Yeah, Well, now we're.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Gonna damn it. I can't believe. I don't have this.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Rocky won Best Picture Oscar at the forty ninth Academy
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Awards in nineteen seventy seven.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: That was not one of my two. I was thinking,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: either the Champion or Raging Bull.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I went blank on fucking Rocky of all movies.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: And he is a stallone is an Oscar winner? I thought?
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: But it was, and I thought he had won Best
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: Actor but he hadn't. He was nominated for Best Actor
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: and for Best Original Screenplay because he wrote it. But
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's an I don't think he's an
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: actual winner.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Well no, because that was why.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: The Best Supporting Actor for Creed.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well but then I thought it was like the
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: acting thing, like yes, you know, like Ben Affleck, he's
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: won an Oscar for Argo because it won Best Picture
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: and one for writing. But but yeah, but no, Rocky one.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: He did win Best Picture and it did win Best
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Director as well.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Well. The Affleck also won for a good Will hunting,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: didn't he because him and him and Matt Road he did.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, But I just mean Afflex never won for acting.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Gottcha, Yeah the fuck the guy from Gilie has never
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: won of Best Actors.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: Come on, come on, he's a a great director. Yeah
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: he was, Uh he was nominated for oh for acting?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Girl.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if he's been nominated for acting.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Actually yeah, I don't know.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: Was he nominated for Argo?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: We may never We may never know.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: No, for actor. The big deal was he wasn't nominated
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: for Best Director. Yeah, but anyway, this drinking with episode
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: about Argo, I've.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Go ahead. I was gonna say. Clint Eastwood, though, was
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: nominated for Best Actor for A Million Dollar Baby, and he,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: out of all the nominees, was the only one that
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: played a fictional character that year.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Oh well, that's true because there's a Ray Charles Charles
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: and there is a what's his name from the Aviator
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: not DiCaprio. So the guy plays who.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: Was Yes, and then like to Hughes Hughes.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Howard Hughes.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Hughes Is this when.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Johnny Depp was in Finding Neverland? I believe so my
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: own role here, I.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Think you are Thes and Hughes part YEA.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: To confirm Ben Affleck has never been nominated for an
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Academy Awards.
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Unfortunate.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: We could town, couldn't.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: We I love the town, but I talked about.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Eastwood getting his awards for Director from Barbara streisand UH producer.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Albert S. Ruddy won his second Best Picture award for
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: A Million Dollar Baby. His first award was for The Godfather,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: which was presented to him by Clint Eastwood.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Oh my life. If you stay in this business long enough, Yeah, yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: my god, niece, what I think has outlived everyone, including
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Barber Streis.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: In Yeah, well yes, but not uh November at the
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: time of this time of this taping. Yeah, I'm never mind.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: But let's just check back with us. Check back with
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: us in November. Yeah, let's see.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Unforgiven and Million Dollar Baby won Best Director and Best
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Picture with Clint Eastwood as actor, producer and director and
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: co starring Morgan Freeman, Scott Talent.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: That Morgan Freeman, guy Petty Good he is God.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got something they have.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: I look forward to their next one together.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Look, if if you want some party tricks to throw out,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: some little trivia to throw out your next party, just
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: just ask somebody who the first Best Picture winner was
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: to ever be released on h D DVD.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Would that be unforgiven?
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: It would not, it would be Million Dollar Baby. It
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: was also the first Best Picture to ever be released
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: on Blu ray.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: Oh and I just got that recently.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I would like to add that to my collection.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good one.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: That's a good one to have.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Uh. This is the film debut of Mike Coulter, who
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: is best known for his work on Luke Cage and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: the Netflix show Evil Sevil.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I haven't but Evil has been a big I think
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: it was on CBS now. I think it's considered paramount
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: plus show. But that's a big It's got at least
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: a handful of seasons. But I've never watched it either. Yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I've never watched it either.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: I wish they'd bring him back to the Marvel stuff
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: as Luke Cage. That was one of the few marks.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I like that one quite a bit. Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Well, did you know that Clint Eastwood, with his win
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: for Best Director, became the twelfth person to win multiple
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: Best Picture Oscars for directing.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: So just the twelfth per Lison to do it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: And that's one multiple Best Picture Oscars.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: That kind of well, yeah, well I think the exhaust.
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: Well I was going to say yeah, but you got to.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: I mean, Francis for Coppola would be up there. I
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: would imagine.
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: Spielberg He's one of them. Serg is not.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Spielberg's not. I thought he want a couple of saving
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: well the only one.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: And some of these I've never heard of. But Frank
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Lloyd okay, Frank Capra.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right, William Wyler yep, Billy what yep?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Elia Kazan, It doesn't sound familiar. Vincent Manelli, who I'm
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: guessing is what's your name's dad? Lisa's Lisas. I could
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: be wrong, but I'm just shot in the dark.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: If if you have the same last name, you are related.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Everyone knows that. Billy Wilder, oh okay, Oh I've missed.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, Billy, excuse me, David Lean, who I'm not familiar with,
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Robert Wise, Fred Zinnemann, and then Francis Ford Coppola, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: lastly Milo's Foreman. Oh.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: Milos yeah, because he was I mean Milos went from
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: what was it he did terms of I think he
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: did terms of and no, we didn't do terms of doing,
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: but he did like Amadeus. Yes, and he did like
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Shock a lot. I know it didn't win Best Picture,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: but he's had more than a few.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: And and this is not Hillary Swank's first sports related film,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: and I think we've kind of hinted at it earlier,
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: as she starred in the Next Karate Kid. Yep.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good for her. Couldn't get her back for Cobra Kai, No.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think that third movie made sense,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: and neither did her coming back and Cobra Kai makes sense. Yeah,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: but she would have been the biggest person on that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: That's true. I'll tell you that would have been a draw,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: if you say so.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: If uh, what about Eastwood? Could they make can they
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: make room for him?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: He could be the new mister Miagi.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, his bones will break.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: He's just screened. Wax on, wax off, Get off my lawn.
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: He'll be He'll be the new mister Glass.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: To tie this, yeah, somehow? Uh, well, you know, m
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Night Shyamalan could have been a choice for director. We
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: don't know, but I do have some coulda would have
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: should us for a million dollar baby?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, good, this is good.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: H Morgan Freeman was originally approached to play the role
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: of Frankie Dunn. I can see, yes, But even before
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Clint Eastwood took on directing and starring roles, he decided
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: to take the part of Eddie's scrap Iron Dupriest.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I kind of feel like Clint Eastwood's like grumpiness lends
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: itself to the hard exterior that we did. We see
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Frankie early.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: On, and Eastwood just, I mean he just it's on
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: his like, it's on his face, like you can't nobody
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: has that kind of look. So yeah, that kind of
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: felt like that that had to be. It had to
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: happen that way.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Angelica Houston originally bought the book rights to rope burn.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I thought she was gonna be Hillary Spike's character.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: And yeah, I should I should have said bought he
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: She brought the book to producer Albert S. Ruddy brought
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: it to his attention, hoping that he would ask her
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: to direct the film because she guaranteed that he would
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: cry after reading the book or the story rather, and
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: he admits that he did. However, by the time Rudy
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: acquired the rights, Houston was busy on another project.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Damn it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure how that film would be.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and for those that don't know the legendary John
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Houston that's his daughter, and Jack Houston, who's been in
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: a lot of movies, that's her brother. And yeah, it
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have been the same. It certainly wouldn't have that
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: type of I mean the way Clint Eastwood makes his films,
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: especially like as he's gotten older, he kind of did
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: take on where sort of mystic river on through, Like
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: even like Richard Jewel, he kind of makes them the
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: same way, like the feeling, the look, the tone of it. Yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't even and I don't even
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: know if I've seen a movie in Jallakie Houston's directed,
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: so I probably can't really coming on.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know she has. But I will say in
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: his later years directing films and acting as well, I'm
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: really upset that there wasn't a threesome scene with Clint
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: Eastwood in this film, Like there was that that one
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: film that I saw a couple of years ago that
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I don't remember the name of.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Wow, wild Things.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: I don't think it was Wild Things.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: It was a threesome.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a scene where he like he's smuggling like
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: he was smuggling.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so are you hold on? I want to
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: make sure I understand correctly. You were hoping that Clint Eastwood,
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: Morgan Freeman, and Hillary Sway were in a threesome.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, j Bouchelle all had a threesome. Oh
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: my god, because Jay does get the ship beat out
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: of him at some point in the.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Film's true, which I mean rightfully.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: So he basically got a coke zero up the ass.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah he did, and he looked like it.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that you get your your face
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: beatn in.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I just I'm I'm just here to be the laugh track.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I don't get it, and just smash his face in
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: He probably he probably would have rather episode probably would
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: have been a nice He probably would have rather had
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: a coke row up his hands and maybe get beat
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: up by Anthony Mackie.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Fair enough.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: So, uh, the last could have would have should have.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: In the last note I have for a million dollar
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: baby is there were two actresses attached to play Maggie
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: before Hillary Swaint came on board. Who do we think
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: those two actresses could have been? And it's not Alicia Silversteine.
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I was about to say, early two thousands, maybe.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Two thousand and three, two thousand and four.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Sandra Bullock, halle Berry.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I would have liked that Sandra Bullock was
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: one of them, but she eventually committed to do miscongeniality
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: too instead.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: What a choice as she should have. I mean, I
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: I just keep thinking like Nicole Kidman or Helen Mirin.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Not either one of those. Ashley Judd was considered.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: Okay, well you know what back then she was Yep,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: that makes sense, Yep, that makes that could have been
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: really something for her.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh. Do we have some favorite scenes or quotes
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: from Million Dollar Baby that we would like to add
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: before we move move out of here?
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I do. Let's hear it by sirs, they just laugh
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: at you so hurtful. It is hurtful. But I remember
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: saying that all anytime, like whatever we were talking about,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: and I've just been like, they just laugh at you.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that scene. But in context, that scene is
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: very hurtful because that woman just got a house for
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: free and she's been a bee about it.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: That shit pissed me off so bad. When Margo Martindale's
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: character just as a whole pissed me off about as
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: much as Tim McGraw did and Friday Night Lights. And
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: she's like so unappreciated. Yeah, yeah, unappreciative. It's a better
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: word for a free fit, a free uh house.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: And she's worried about all this money she gets from
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the government.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like, there's a mentality I see a lot,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: especially where I live, Like why do I want to
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: get off and get a get off my ass and
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: get a job when I've got this.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and she yeah, but yeah, she's very ungrateful. It
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: was amazing, And then even the way she kind of
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: handled it, And then I liked where Clint Eastwood doesn't
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: even say anything, but you see him looking like he's
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: up against the porch. And then of course, you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: it kind of comes out when they when it's clear
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: they've been to Disneyland and everything else before coming to
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: see her, which is also a nice But then I
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: but then it's kind of like there's a little bit
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: of that, like, Okay, she sees them for who they
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: really are, because she actually tells Eastwood to be like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: so none of your business. But then she handles it herself,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: and you know, they storm off, which right for you know,
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: of course they do. But but yeah, I think, I really,
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's in those it's in those final moments
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: where he kind of tells her what that's saying is
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: and it's the first it's the really the first time
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: of the whole film, and again it's you know, it's
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: all about kind of this journey of kind of how
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: they meet and where they meet in their lives, but
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: that it's it's a very tender moment in that last
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: little bit, and I it's it's not so I guess
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: this is a moment. But you know, even through all
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: the years, and I haven't really watched it all the
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: way through, probably since I saw in theaters, I just
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I just really loved it then and I still do now.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: But the one thing I always remembered was that final
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: shot of him and that diner. Yeah, and I even
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: forgot about the letter to his daughter and stuff and why,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: but I loved when they first go I paid more
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: attention to it this time and when they were actually there,
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: and I thought that that that is such like no
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: matter where he goes, and it's like he just there,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: he is, and that's all he's doing at this point,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: and I don't know, I I it's I think it's
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: one of the best best endings in the way it's
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: just done. It doesn't even really kind of you know,
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: it's just a glimpse, but you know, you know what's
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: going on.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. The phrase or name that he's given to her,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I wasn't even gonna attempt to butcher the pronunciation of it,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but it translates in Irish or Gaelic to my darling
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: and my blood, which literally means my pulse. I love
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: the connection between those two when it as it grows
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: throughout the film, because you see the mom and the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: sister and the sister's husband or whatever as a part,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: but there's not a father in Maggie's life that seems
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: to be around, and so you know, Clintiechwood's Frankie's character
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: basically becomes that for her, at even so strongly at
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: the end of the film, where he's the one who
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: has to like take her out of her pain sadly.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I love how And of course the reveal
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: is very thought out because by the time you get
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: to that scene, it's it hits, it hits.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, well done, well.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well done. Clint.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good job, Clint, thanks for making me cry because
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: my dad didn't have the injury that obviously Maggie took. Uh,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: diabetes thanks to his exposure to agent Orange and Vietnam
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: kind of slowly derailed his life where he became bedridden
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: for such a long time and he collected those sores
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: like you see on Maggie throughout the end of the film,
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: where his legs had to be amputated as well.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Now, luckily, you know other things was actually what ended
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: up taking his life and not not me going into
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: his assisted living center or nursing home and popping in
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: with a shot sadly, happily I should say, uh, but yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: those correlations of the two made me say fuck you,
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Clint Eastwood. But he still made a beautiful movie at
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: the same fucking time. Yeah. So, before I get teary eyed,
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: let's talk about our favorite boxing movies of all time.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I think this one was pretty easy for me. I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: would put million Dollar Baby up there, I would put
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Rocky up there, I would put Cinderella Man in there,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: and I would put Creed up there.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: So I have Rocky, million dollar Baby in Creed. I
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: went back and forth on Cinderellaman and the one that
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: I finally landed on just because I think it's an
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: overall better film is The Fighter. Yes, with Mark Walberg
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: christ that one, but I want to say too, and sorry,
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: well mccash, go ahead and say yours first, because there's
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: another one that I think a lot of people that'll
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: listen to this and be like, why isn't that on there?
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: And anyway you got thoughts, Well, I basically haven't seen it.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it all and so I can't do it.
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  Speaker 4: But I have a feeling it would be on most
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  Speaker 4: people's Mount Rushmore. But go ahead, mccash in case you
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  Speaker 4: have it.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: I do have Cinderella, man. I do have not the
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Mark Wahlberg The Fighter, but the Christian Bell The Fighter,
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  Speaker 3: because I think he's the real star of the film.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I say that.
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  Speaker 4: I was about to jump on that.
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  Speaker 3: And then I had the Champ, which was oh Ricky
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  Speaker 3: Schroeders as a kid, his dad's like a fighter. I
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: forget who played the lead role in it. Anyway, it's
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: a beautiful, sad, touching film. And then I went with
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: a film I don't know if either guy, either of
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: you guys have heard of or seen this film. But
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: it's a boxing comedy called Digstown.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't seen it, but I'm not sure if I
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: know what it is.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Either it's oh God, what's the actor's name? He was
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: on Sesame Street and and he was in that Richard
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: gear Officer and a Gentleman film.
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  Speaker 4: Louis.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Yes, Louis Gossen Jr. Is in it, and he plays,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of an older, washed up boxer alongside
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: James Wood. It's from nineteen ninety two.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they had to be old and that instead of
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: a million dollar baby.
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  Speaker 3: It's a film that that I worked in a movie
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: theater the time it came out in high school. So
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  Speaker 3: I saw twenty times has nostalgia for me as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, that'll do it, will Yeah, that's that's. We'll accept
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: that excuse, even though I don't know if I think
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: I would chisel that shit off of your own.
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  Speaker 3: Either one of you had fucking seen it, so you
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: can't speak on it.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: No, And the movie I was talking about is de
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Niro's Raging Bull.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just haven't.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: I haven't watched it all the way through, so I
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: had I just didn't want to do it, so but yeah,
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: this one kind of came pretty easy. But I'd say
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: Million Dollar Baby is my favorite of all.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Nobody nobody mentioned the Hurricane. I feel like that was.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: The hurricane and Ali yea too, but I think I
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: like the Hurricane better. But yeah, again, just overall enjoyment.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: And also I think kind of like you know, with
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: all of ours, it's kind of like not the best,
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: but it's our favorite. So I'm like, you know, you
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: associate so much stuff with Rocky, even though yeah, I'm
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: sure the Hurricane was probably made better, but do you
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: get do you have any of that without Rocky?
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean. And I think there's a
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: lot to say about Raging Bull too that I've just
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: seen over the years. But like I said, I haven't
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: sat and watched all of it, so I can't can't
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: do it. There you go, can't do it?
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: De Niro? Uh is this it?
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: We're out?
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: That's what I was trying to get to. Is John
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: Voight the lead in Chan the Champ alongside Faye Dunaway
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: and Ricky Schroeder.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Oh, Faye Dunaway, isn't it nice?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah? It's from nineteen seventy nine.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh god, Okay, well, I.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: Highly recommend watching that if you like, especially if you
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: like million dollar babies, and it's the kind of the
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: dark themes, heavy themes well that are throughout the film.
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: And if you like a same John Voight, I could
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: be that that might take your interest too.
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  Speaker 2: Lost his fucking mind.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Well, gentlemen, that's all I've got for a million dollar Baby,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: unless we've got something else we want to add before
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: we get out of here. I know we're up against
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: the clock.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: I'm happening with the sanity of John Voight.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: John boyit is running through the streets with a shield
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll leave that with you. Hey, guys, thanks
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