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#368 A Very Big Announcement · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
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  Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers.
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  Speaker 2: Now, kids, when they're with their friends, they need us
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  Speaker 2: to talk to them about being safe, being healthy, being wise.
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  Speaker 1: And now here's the scars of our show, My mom
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  Speaker 1: and Dad.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, this is Justin Colson here with Kylie, my wife,
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  Speaker 2: mum to our six kids. I'm the author of six
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  Speaker 2: books about raising happy families and the founder of happy
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  Speaker 2: Families dot com dot au. We have got so much
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  Speaker 2: to talk about in this podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's what happens when you go away for two weeks.
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  Speaker 2: It's really really exciting. I have to share the funniest
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  Speaker 2: line that we've ever heard from any of them, maybe
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  Speaker 2: the funniest line we've ever heard from any of our kids.
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  Speaker 2: The other day we were talking to Emily, our seven
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  Speaker 2: year old. She was not sitting still when she should have,
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  Speaker 2: and I said to her, can you, Emily, can you
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  Speaker 2: please just sit still? Is it possible for you to
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  Speaker 2: be still? I mean, I was trying to be patient,
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  Speaker 2: but she really pushed me to the limit. Can you
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  Speaker 2: please sit still? Is it possible? And she looked at
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  Speaker 2: me and said, no, I'm like a shark. If I
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  Speaker 2: stay still, I'll die.
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  Speaker 3: I love this kid, I love I love her expressions.
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  Speaker 2: I just if I stop moving, I'll die.
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  Speaker 4: She's so articulous, not bad for a seven year old
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  Speaker 4: has because of all those books that you're reading. Are
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  Speaker 4: instead of instead of fairy and princess stories that our
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  Speaker 4: other big kids all wanted to hear all the time,
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  Speaker 4: all she wants to do is hear stories about textbook
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  Speaker 4: insects and sharks and fish. And she's into Pokemon at
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  Speaker 4: the moment, driving me crazy with the Pokemon cards. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: these fads that seven year olds get involved in.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we've never really had another child who's been into
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  Speaker 3: a new fad.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, And it's been really nice until now. Hey, Kylie,
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  Speaker 2: school holidays for New South Wales, in fact, for the
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  Speaker 2: entire Eastern Seaboard, school holidays are over. Life is resuming.
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  Speaker 2: The October long weekend has come and gone. And feel
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  Speaker 2: you're feeling relaxed after like you said about eight days away.
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  Speaker 3: Well, can I tell you holidays were relaxing. It did
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  Speaker 3: take you and I a couple of days to relax.
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  Speaker 3: We actually looked at each other and thought, oh, I
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  Speaker 3: think we've done the wrong thing. We've booked in for
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  Speaker 3: way too long and then by the time we left,
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  Speaker 3: we were like, do we have to leave?
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  Speaker 2: So we went to Bowen and we we've fallen in
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  Speaker 2: love with the place. But there's not very much there.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know most people say where's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeh's about two hours two and a half hours south
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  Speaker 2: of Townsville, depending on the road works. Just oh gosh. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we can talk about the holiday on Friday, but I
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  Speaker 2: do want to just tease that we are going to
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  Speaker 2: share a story with you about an accidental trespassing on
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  Speaker 2: a nude beach with out children. We'll tell you more
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  Speaker 2: about believe you're bringing that up. We'll tell you more
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  Speaker 2: about that on Friday. Whoops, I don't know how that happened.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just going to also.
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  Speaker 3: Add worst parenting moment ever.
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  Speaker 2: See the engross and even if you do it by accident,
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  Speaker 2: just turn around and run the other way if it
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  Speaker 2: ever happens to you. Not not a highlight of the
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  Speaker 2: holiday at all. Gosh. Oh the big news, big news.
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  Speaker 2: While we were while we were away on our holiday,
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  Speaker 2: Channel nine made an announcement and it was quite a
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  Speaker 2: big one.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was pretty patchy. We didn't have coverage for
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  Speaker 3: most of our trip.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, when we left Bone we did some other
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  Speaker 2: stuff and that meant that we were out of internet
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  Speaker 2: range for all of.
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  Speaker 3: The time, so we actually missed the whole event at
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  Speaker 3: the moment, But the next morning we were able to
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  Speaker 3: see firsthand.
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  Speaker 2: What it's all about.
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  Speaker 3: Channel nine's promo for the latest parenting show.
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  Speaker 2: Parental Guidance. Check it out. It's the biggest responsibility of
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  Speaker 2: our lives.
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  Speaker 1: We do.
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  Speaker 2: We want our children to be the good in the
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  Speaker 2: world raising a child, but how do you know, think
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  Speaker 2: about the happiest time in your name You're doing it right.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like a failure and parenting experts doctor Justin Colson,
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  Speaker 3: we think.
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  Speaker 2: I just love these kids. I want to give them
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  Speaker 2: the best. Bring you the groundbreaking news series sample challenge
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  Speaker 2: every Australia. This is going to change the conversation about
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  Speaker 2: parenting in this country. New Parental Guidance soon to nine.
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  Speaker 2: I am just so so excited about this TV show.
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  Speaker 2: We recorded it back in April May before the big
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  Speaker 2: lockdowns happened. The timing was perfect and boy, our boy,
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  Speaker 2: this is going to be such an exciting TV show.
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  Speaker 3: What's the deal though, because that promo is pretty provocative.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's what promos do. I mean, the TV station
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  Speaker 2: is going to put a promo out there that says
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  Speaker 2: you need to see this because you're going to.
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  Speaker 3: So it says it's from the producers of Married.
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  Speaker 2: At First that's what it says. I'm glad you raise that.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't say from the producers, it's from the network
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  Speaker 2: that brought you. So the people who have made Parental Guidance,
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  Speaker 2: the show that I'm on, they've got nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with Merit at First Sight. And a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are up in arms. You're like, oh my goodness. If
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  Speaker 2: the same people that made Merit at First Sight are
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  Speaker 2: making this one, it's going to be awful. Endemol Shine
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  Speaker 2: is the name of the company that makes Merrit at
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  Speaker 2: First Sight and then they sell that to Channel nine.
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  Speaker 2: The company that have made Parental Guidance, the one that
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  Speaker 2: I'm in, they're called Eureka, and they do not have
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  Speaker 2: anything to do with Merrit at First Sight. So we're
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  Speaker 2: in the clear there for those who are worried about
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  Speaker 2: it turning into that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: But generally speaking, reality TV shows they're pretty bad. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you see the worst of human nature come out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you do. What's your point?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you want to put your name against something like that.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm very I'm not allowed to say very much
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  Speaker 2: about the show at this point. I can very I
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  Speaker 2: can share very very little. But what I can say
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  Speaker 2: is this is a positive and uplifting show that I
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  Speaker 2: am proud to be part of, and it really celebrates parenting,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't shy away from the big issues that
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  Speaker 2: parents struggle with. And we have some really hard and
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  Speaker 2: important conversations with very good intentions, and what we actually
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  Speaker 2: do is we elevate great parenting in the show. So
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  Speaker 2: regardless of what you've seen in the primo, what I
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  Speaker 2: can guarantee is that this is going to be a
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be a TV program that will
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  Speaker 2: change the way we look at parenting in this country
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  Speaker 2: for the better. It's a great show.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so you give me goosebunks. I cannot wait I
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  Speaker 3: see this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of scared because you know, when you watch
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  Speaker 2: yourself on our home video or something, you're like, really,
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  Speaker 2: do I look like that? Do I sound like that?
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried about it from that point of view, But
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  Speaker 2: so long as the stuff that comes out of my
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  Speaker 2: mouth makes sense. I cannot wait to see this show.
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  Speaker 3: Well, when we saw the promo, our son in law, Jared,
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  Speaker 3: was with me and I kind of looked at it
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  Speaker 3: and I said, did that kind of seem a bit surreal?
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  Speaker 3: Here we are we watching the TV and all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden you popped up, Your face popped up, and
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  Speaker 3: it was like, was he just super imposed?
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  Speaker 2: We know that guy sold. I should just highlight by
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  Speaker 2: the way, Parental Guidance is a show where I am
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  Speaker 2: the quote unquote parenting expert for the entire show, for
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  Speaker 2: the entire series, and I'm also co hosting it with
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  Speaker 2: Allison Langdon. Ali Langdon from The Today Show. She sits
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  Speaker 2: next to Carl normally, but this time she's sitting next
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  Speaker 2: to me for the program. And it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: I can't say anymore except that it's going to be great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be repetitive, and I don't think we
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  Speaker 2: should do it. So let's move on to the purpose
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  Speaker 2: of today's podcast. If that's okay, Oh, you know what
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  Speaker 2: we have to do. Before we do that, I do
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  Speaker 2: have to mention that today the MISC Connection Summit is happening.
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  Speaker 2: If you've got a tweet you're.
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  Speaker 3: Not allowed to go on holidays again.
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  Speaker 2: There's so much to talk about if you've got a
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  Speaker 2: tween or teen girl eight to eighteen. All day today,
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  Speaker 2: the mis Connection Summit is happening, talking with experts from
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  Speaker 2: around the country about all of the big stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: you can get more information about that at happy families
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  Speaker 2: dot com dot you. It's not too late to sign up,
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  Speaker 2: and even if you can't watch the whole thing, we
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  Speaker 2: send you the replays the links. You can watch it
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  Speaker 2: at your own, your own leisure, in your own convenient time.
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  Speaker 3: For the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 2: Lifelong access to the Misconnection. So please have a look there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's move on, shall we? Maybe?
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  Speaker 3: Well, on Tuesdays we answer somebody's question.
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  Speaker 2: And today we're going to keep the emailer anonymous because
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of a sensitive one and we don't want
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  Speaker 2: to make anyone feel embarrassed by the way. You can
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  Speaker 2: send your questions to us podcasts at happy families dot
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  Speaker 2: com dot you. That's podcasts with an s podcasts at
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  Speaker 2: happy families dot com dot au. And I'll answer as
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  Speaker 2: an expert. You'll answer as a mum of six with
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  Speaker 2: like twenty oh how many like I reckon, you've got
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  Speaker 2: about eighty years of parenting experience under your belt in
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  Speaker 2: terms of if you add up the cumulative total of
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  Speaker 2: all of our children's.
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  Speaker 3: Ages, I already feel, oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe shud have said it all like that you read
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  Speaker 2: the question, I'm going to work out how many years
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  Speaker 2: of children we've parented.
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  Speaker 3: Our almost ten year old was caught taking things from
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  Speaker 3: other people's bags at school. He and his friend were
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  Speaker 3: sent to the principal's office for a stern talking to
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  Speaker 3: and reflection on what they had done. The principal rang
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  Speaker 3: to tell me what had happened, and he said he
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  Speaker 3: feels that both boys were remorseful and had at their
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  Speaker 3: consequence at school. He said it was up to us,
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  Speaker 3: but he didn't feel like it needed any further action
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  Speaker 3: at home. The stealing is out of character for both boys,
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  Speaker 3: and we can tell that our son was upset by
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  Speaker 3: the whole thing and is feeling terrible about it. We
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  Speaker 3: do agree with the principle that they've probably learned their lesson. However,
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  Speaker 3: we feel like there should be a consequence at home.
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  Speaker 2: Right And then the letter goes on to just indicate
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  Speaker 2: that the son has brought some stuff home and said, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: my friends gave it to me, and now they know
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  Speaker 2: that he's lying about that. So should there be a
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  Speaker 2: consequence because of the line that's happened at home even
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  Speaker 2: though this stuff's been dealt with at school. And then
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  Speaker 2: they also acknowledged in the email that when they were kids,
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  Speaker 2: both of them.
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  Speaker 3: Had sticky thingers.
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  Speaker 2: You got in trouble for shoplifting and that kind of
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  Speaker 2: stuff as well. I think it might be genetic.
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  Speaker 3: What do you, I don't think so, But anyway, let's
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  Speaker 3: find out how we can help this family and anyone
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  Speaker 3: else who's ever dealt with sticky fingers. After the break,
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  Speaker 3: it's the Happy Families podcast.
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  Speaker 5: to feel bad or in trouble. The Do's and don'ts
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  Speaker 3: It's the Happy Famili's podcast, the podcast for the time
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  Speaker 3: poor parent who just wants answers now and today, we're
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  Speaker 3: trying to help anyone who's dealt with sticky fingers.
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  Speaker 2: Get kids that are into stealing stuff, whether it's from
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  Speaker 2: shops or other people's school bags or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: We've had a request come through. Please help via podcasts
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  Speaker 2: at happy families dot com dot au.
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  Speaker 3: This family's not alone. I remember I remember when now
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  Speaker 3: one of our children came home with a purse full
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  Speaker 3: of coins. Really do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: And she said that her friend gave it to her.
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  Speaker 2: Really, yes, Wow, A Coulson did that. That's terrible. I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe that.
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  Speaker 3: But it took a little bit of convincing until she
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  Speaker 3: realized that I wasn't going to believe her, and she
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  Speaker 3: fessed up and said it was actually in my friend's piggybox.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh.
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  Speaker 3: So she went back to the door and she knocked
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  Speaker 3: on the door and she told them on what she did,
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  Speaker 3: and she handed it all back.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so can you just with your fingers show me
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  Speaker 2: so we're not because there's another one that I want
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  Speaker 2: to mention. I was the same one that I was
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  Speaker 2: going to mention. Maybe it was just maybe it was
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  Speaker 2: this problem. So I was going to say, we had
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  Speaker 2: another one who stole stuff from the shops. Maybe it
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  Speaker 2: was just that kid. But what maybe we just.
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  Speaker 3: Got better at parents as we went along.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's a couple of things that we
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  Speaker 2: need to highlight here. First of all, kids both follow
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  Speaker 2: their friends, and they influence their friends, and they do
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  Speaker 2: dumb stuff when their friends are around. So I've talked
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  Speaker 2: about the milk challenge before on this podcast and how
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  Speaker 2: I would never open the fridge and think, gee, I
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  Speaker 2: wonder if I could drink that much milk in that
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  Speaker 2: short amount of time unless I had my friends with
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  Speaker 2: me coaxing me and saying, go on, do it, do it?
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  Speaker 2: Do it? Like that's just a dumb thing that kids do.
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  Speaker 2: Laurence Steinberg is one of the world's leading psychologists when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to adolescence. He's done more research than just
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  Speaker 2: about anyone, and he's done some really cool risk packing
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  Speaker 2: research showing that kids, when they're broad into a lab, children,
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  Speaker 2: teenagers and adults, they come in on their own or
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  Speaker 2: they come in with a friend. When they participate in
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  Speaker 2: this little risk taking exercise, a little computer simulation, they've
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  Speaker 2: got to ride a motorbikele driver car through a city
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  Speaker 2: and when the lights change, they've got to make a
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  Speaker 2: decision do I try and get through the lights or
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  Speaker 2: do I pause? They earn more money in the experiment
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  Speaker 2: for finishing fast, so there's an incentive to get to
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  Speaker 2: the end quickly, to run through the lights, but if
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  Speaker 2: they crash, they lose time, so there's risk associated with
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  Speaker 2: it as well. And what Steinberg found is that when
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  Speaker 2: kids are playing, whether they've got a friend watching them
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  Speaker 2: or not, they pretty much play exactly the same way
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  Speaker 2: when teenagers adolescents are playing. They play fairly conservatively when
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  Speaker 2: they're on their own, but when they've got a friend
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  Speaker 2: with them, they kind of take way bigger risks and
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  Speaker 2: weigh more risks. Adults they don't really care whether someone
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  Speaker 2: watching them or not.
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  Speaker 3: Say I wouldn't care.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they don't really care. So what we're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with here is we've got a kid who's just entering
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  Speaker 2: early adolescents and is starting to take risks, starting to
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  Speaker 2: be influenced by friends and probably starting to influence friends
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  Speaker 2: as well, trying to figure out who he is in
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 3: So it's interesting when you hear the story. There's two
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  Speaker 3: boys involved, and it's out of character for both of them. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: So it's not like there's a leader and a follower.
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  Speaker 3: These kids, generally speaking wouldn't do this, but together this
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  Speaker 3: bad mix at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: I got in a lot of trouble with my friends.
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  Speaker 2: Never got into trouble on my own, but when I
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  Speaker 2: was a friends I was always getting it in trouble
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  Speaker 2: because it's kind of like, Hey, let's go out and
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  Speaker 2: sit on the street corner and stuff beans up.
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  Speaker 3: Our nose or throw rocks at cars. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you hear stories about that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that's the first thing to acknowledge. Kids
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  Speaker 2: when they're with their friends, they need us to talk
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  Speaker 2: to them about being safe, being healthy, being wise. Don't
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  Speaker 2: talk about right and wrong so much because they roll
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  Speaker 2: their eyes. It's not that there isn't right and wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I strongly believe in right and wrong. But when we
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  Speaker 2: talk about right and wrong, the kids are like always
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  Speaker 2: telling me what to do. But when we talk about safe, healthy, wise,
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  Speaker 2: it's much it's much more objective, it's not so moralistically oriented,
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  Speaker 2: and then later on you can bring the morals in.
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  Speaker 2: So that would be that would be one thing that
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  Speaker 2: I would really focus on.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess that question if we boild it all down.
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  Speaker 3: They want to understand whether or not they're really happy
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  Speaker 3: with how the school has dealt with things. But they
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  Speaker 3: also feel like there needs to be a consequence at home. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: so that's that's what they want to know, Doctor justin
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  Speaker 3: Should there be a consequence at home?
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a fascinating question. What does consequence means?
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  Speaker 2: That's what I want to start with, because when I
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  Speaker 2: hear parents say should we make sure it should should
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  Speaker 2: we be imposing consequences? I think that there should be
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  Speaker 2: a consequence at home, even though there's been a consequence
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  Speaker 2: at the school. Consequence really is another way of saying,
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  Speaker 2: what should we do to him now?
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  Speaker 3: How should we Yeah, Well that in that context I
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  Speaker 3: hear punished.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, And consequence and punishment are really just consequences,
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  Speaker 2: a sugar coated soft way of saying, how do we
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  Speaker 2: punish him? How do we exact retribution? How do we
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  Speaker 2: make him pay a price for what he's done? Because
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  Speaker 2: he's stealing and he's lying and he should he has
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  Speaker 2: to learn, and the only way we can make him
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  Speaker 2: learn is to is to hurt him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you talk about natural consequences, So if I am
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  Speaker 3: a liar and I keep lying, then the natural consequence
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  Speaker 3: of that is that people don't trust me.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that as a parent I enforce.
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  Speaker 2: Right and a lot of parents will get caught up
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  Speaker 2: in well, there's natural consequences and then there's like logical
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  Speaker 2: consequences and anything that is extrinsically imposed that becomes some
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  Speaker 2: kind of consequence or punishment that we're putting on them
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  Speaker 2: that's not a natural consequence of something we're doing. So
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  Speaker 2: the natural consequence of stealing is people don't trust you.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: And that's consequence of lying is people don't trust you.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm pretty happy for kids to learn that through life,
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  Speaker 2: and they learn it really effectively. Usually when that's going on.
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  Speaker 3: We're actually going to have a really exciting conversation tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: with a guest that sits in beautifully with this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so glad you that I hadn't even thought of that.
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  Speaker 3: Michael Parker wrote a book, Could Talk with your kids
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  Speaker 3: about things that matter. We're talking to him tomorrow on
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  Speaker 3: the podcast about his book and the hypothetical conversations that
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  Speaker 3: we can have with our children to tap into their values.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to teach them to think, to be a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more philosophical, and to develop a real sense of
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  Speaker 2: intrinsic ethical shape.
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  Speaker 3: Shifting aliens and all kinds of crazy things that you
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  Speaker 3: can have conversations with your kids about things that really matter.
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  Speaker 3: And here, in this situation, we've got this child who's
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: acted out of line but also out of character, and
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  Speaker 3: so from here, instead of imposing a consequence, we get
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: to have conversations.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you've teased tomorrow really really well, So the person
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  Speaker 2: a crazy seven year old who thinks she's a shark
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  Speaker 2: and has to keep on moving otherwise she's going to drown.
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  Speaker 2: We've talked about a big TV show. We've hinted that
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  Speaker 2: that I've teased that. And we've answered a question about
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  Speaker 2: a child who steals and lies and feels bad about it.
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