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Five Tigs Who Could Be Gone In 2026 · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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  Speaker 1: playoff games and the World Series. I'm pert with me
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  Speaker 1: is always the man whose name is always spelled correctly
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  Speaker 1: on his Starbucks.
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  Speaker 2: He is Cody Stavenaggan.
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  Speaker 3: How you doing, Let's spell correctly. As long as they
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  Speaker 3: hear me right and just keep it that first name,
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  Speaker 3: then we do. Okay, Kieren a genius who just calls
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  Speaker 3: himself Mike at restaurants.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that's uh.
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  Speaker 1: I learned the hard way on that too many times.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a lot of simpler. Mike or Mike Suh
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  Speaker 1: is my alias at restaurants. So all right, we are
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  Speaker 1: back here recording this Thursday, a little bit before six
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  Speaker 1: Eastern times, so we got playoff baseball that's happening now,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll happened a little bit later in the CS's obviously,
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  Speaker 1: but let's get to the more local news here. Cody
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  Speaker 1: and that is Dingler has been nominated for a Golden
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  Speaker 1: Glove and kind of funny, kind of funny. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: start off with a hot take on this is Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Dingler a system catcher? Last year Jake Rogers nominated for
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  Speaker 1: a Golden Glove as well, Jake Rogers also on the
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  Speaker 1: roster as at present. Is Dingler a system catcher? Or
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  Speaker 1: is he quite frankly, really effing good?
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  Speaker 3: I ask you, I don't think there's such thing as
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  Speaker 3: a system catcher. You're not running an offense. You have
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  Speaker 3: to be a good defender in order to be nominated
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  Speaker 3: for a Gold Glove. If you have to be, you
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  Speaker 3: have to have good defensive metrics, you have to block, frame,
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  Speaker 3: throw field. He does all of those things very well,
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  Speaker 3: and he's always been held in pretty high regard in
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  Speaker 3: those areas. So don't think it's the system. I think
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  Speaker 3: he has turned out to be a pretty good draft
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  Speaker 3: pick and has lived up to a lot of his
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  Speaker 3: potential already. And he's still really young in his career.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, in some ways like exceeded his
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  Speaker 1: potential at least early on. I mean, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: anyone kind of foresaw this, you know, defensive offensive output
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  Speaker 1: that he had this year. And again it's worth everybody
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  Speaker 1: knows this but it's worth like saying out loud again.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this is October sixteenth. We were talking about
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  Speaker 1: Dingler from this time last year all the way up
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  Speaker 1: until Seattle series, like I hope you know there's some
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  Speaker 1: promise here.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you know those extra base hits a little bit,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: Athletically, like we were kind of like talking ourselves into
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  Speaker 1: him being like okay, and he turned out to be
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  Speaker 1: pretty effing good, like like like I said earlier, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was worth everybody knows the metrics percentiles
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. He was a one point one d war
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  Speaker 1: catcher last year recording the Baseball Reference and if you
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  Speaker 1: look at you know, his fellow nominees, like I think this,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily think Jake Rogers was going to win
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  Speaker 1: it last year.
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  Speaker 2: I think Dingler has.
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  Speaker 1: A has a really good shot here Cody to to
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  Speaker 1: take home the take home the hardware, which will would
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  Speaker 1: be which would be great. And also I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a testament to also like the pitching staff and
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  Speaker 1: the coaching staff and everybody else that again, back to
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  Speaker 1: back different catchers nominated.
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  Speaker 2: For Gold Gloves.
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  Speaker 1: I do think I was joking about the system thing,
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  Speaker 1: but I do think it is worth mentioning that that's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool, Like, that's pretty cool. You got two guys
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  Speaker 1: with Gold Glove nominations occupying your position for years to come,
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  Speaker 1: if you so choose to go that route. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think Alejandro Kirk is probably the favorite here and
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  Speaker 3: give Dingler an outside shot at winning it. But Kirk
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  Speaker 3: leads all catchers in blocks above average, a second among
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  Speaker 3: all MLB catchers and framing runs. I think his case
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  Speaker 3: is going to be just a little bit stronger. And
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  Speaker 3: that's not to knock Dingler at all, but I think
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  Speaker 3: Kirk is probably gonna win it. Interested do you think
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers had anyone snubbed here? I don't. Unfortunately, they
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  Speaker 3: metrically were not that good great defensively they weren't bad,
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  Speaker 3: but they weren't great. Other than I haven't looked at
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  Speaker 3: the metrics for these utility guys. I was hoping to
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  Speaker 3: see a hobby By as utility Gold Glove nominationn is
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  Speaker 3: Ernie Clement is going to be better metrically, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: so is dubon seventeen defensive runs, They're fourteen defensive runs saved.
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  Speaker 3: Sneeman was plus eight, So I think they're going to
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  Speaker 3: be a little better than Hobby overall, but I would
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  Speaker 3: like to see a Hobby nomination.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean the Hobby case is the classic Hobby case
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  Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, gold Glove is literally flash
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  Speaker 1: right and and he is a flashy defender both in
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  Speaker 1: field outfield as well. I mean, the metrics are going
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  Speaker 1: to point out his flaws that we all understand that
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  Speaker 1: they you know what they are. But I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: there if there was a guy that was worth talking
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  Speaker 1: about as a potential SNUBB, it's obviously him. I kept
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  Speaker 1: looking for areas I was like, eh no, I don't
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  Speaker 1: like and then looking back, it's like I never thought
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  Speaker 1: they were as sound defensively as sort of like their
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  Speaker 1: reputation would have dictated.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Fun fun fact, if everybody can kind of bear with
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  Speaker 1: me for a second, Al k Line, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: believe the year was nineteen sixty three.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people know this.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, he never got his gold glove that year. One
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  Speaker 1: of the years he just never got the gold glove,
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  Speaker 1: like they just didn't send it to him. And him
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  Speaker 1: being mister Kline, he was like, well all right, well
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  Speaker 1: they didn't send me the gold glove, and he just
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  Speaker 1: moved on, like I do you not know that?
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  Speaker 3: Did they make the award? Do we know if it
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  Speaker 3: exists out there somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd have to look at other winners and see,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, but he just never got one again.
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  Speaker 1: It might not be nineteen sixty three, but it was
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  Speaker 1: one of those years and uh and he just was
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  Speaker 1: like okay and then just just moved all with his
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  Speaker 1: life because he's Olka Line.
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  Speaker 2: That's who, That's who he is.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, somewhat of a little bit of a transition here. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: gold glove potential next year, Alex.
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  Speaker 2: We have to we have to do it. We had
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  Speaker 2: to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Alex Begman has officially opted out of his three year deal.
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  Speaker 3: Not officially, he's reported that he's going to Okay, you
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  Speaker 3: are correct, you are correct.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for correct me on that he.
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  Speaker 1: Is reportedly going to opt out of his what was
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  Speaker 1: a total three year deal, two years left on the
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  Speaker 1: deal with the bust In Red Sox, and we get
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  Speaker 1: to play this game all over again. So Cody the
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's gonna sign Alex Bregman. Everybody wants to know. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: wants to know.
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  Speaker 3: I've not at all got my bearings one what the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers are going to do or what they what even
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  Speaker 3: I think they should do this winter. Bregman obviously still
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  Speaker 3: checks a lot of in a lot of ways. He
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  Speaker 3: is the guy they need, and he's gonna be thirty two.
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  Speaker 3: He's a year older, another year. He's on that aging curve,
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  Speaker 3: probably passed the peak beginning to start the downhill slide.
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  Speaker 3: One of those good years is already gone, and he
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  Speaker 3: was injured. So if you were hesitant about going five
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  Speaker 3: or six years last off season, shouldn't you be even
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  Speaker 3: more hesitant about doing that this off season. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like the level of risk you should be willing to
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  Speaker 3: take on should in some ways be linked to what
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna do with trek Scouble. If you think you
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  Speaker 3: were going to trade Trek's Scouble, I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: it's worth it. If you think you're gonna keep Trek's Schooble,
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  Speaker 3: even if it's just for twenty twenty six, maybe you're
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  Speaker 3: willing to take on some bad years at the end
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  Speaker 3: of that contract to put a winner around Schooble in
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. I would feel a lot better about
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  Speaker 3: that decision. That's a long way saying I don't really know.
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  Speaker 3: I think he checks a lot of boxes, makes a
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  Speaker 3: lot of sense, but I don't know that there should
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  Speaker 3: be a rush to give him a long term deal
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  Speaker 3: because he's he's getting older man, and he's developing a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of an injury history. I think the easy
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  Speaker 3: solution would have been to sign him last offseason, but
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  Speaker 3: you didn't do that, and now you're in the same spot.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a little a little more awkward this time around,
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  Speaker 3: and he wants a long term deal. That's why he's
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  Speaker 3: opted out. I don't think he wants to take another
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  Speaker 3: Red Sox deal, which is kind of what I would
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  Speaker 3: want to give him.
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  Speaker 1: We have, I mean, we have people just kind of
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  Speaker 1: throwing out random numbers five, one, seventy five.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, it's a little it's a.
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  Speaker 1: Higher eight annual average than last year, because I think
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  Speaker 1: it was like six.
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't even like that though you and reason
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  Speaker 3: you were willing to do a six year deal, like
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  Speaker 3: you're paying for the good years with the acceptance the
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  Speaker 3: last couple of years might not be so good. One
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  Speaker 3: of those good years is gone. So I don't know
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  Speaker 3: even like the five year deal. That's the same point
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  Speaker 3: in time you were willing to go to. But without
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  Speaker 3: that growed first year, it makes me uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 1: It is also worth noting that he was a two
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  Speaker 1: sixteen that's two one six hitter in September slash October
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  Speaker 1: last season with a six forty oh ps. So we
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  Speaker 1: talk about slumping, he slumped really hard at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the season. Obviously, the Red Sox still made the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, that's a real thubt that that would be
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  Speaker 1: a real thing and add to a level of concern,
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  Speaker 1: like is this maybe some something that he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be from now on where he kind of wears out
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  Speaker 1: as the season goes.
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  Speaker 2: Who else?
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  Speaker 1: But that those are those are those are factors. Now
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  Speaker 1: we have another sample size of that happening.
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  Speaker 2: So h will be.
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  Speaker 3: The last time we talking about they need a veteran hitter.
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  Speaker 3: They need someone with his leadership and intangible skills. It's
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  Speaker 3: just unfortunate that you didn't get him last time around,
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  Speaker 3: and now you're in this position.
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  Speaker 2: Very true.
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• 10:49
  Speaker 1: Tigers fans nightmares from years to come. He only hit
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  Speaker 1: two home runs in one game twice all season last year,
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  Speaker 1: and he did it a third time again. It's Trek
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  Speaker 1: Schoogl in a game that the Tigers had an opportunity to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kind of put their foot down in the
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  Speaker 1: in the best of five series.
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  Speaker 1: brought up the veteran hitter thing. That's what Seattle did
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  Speaker 1: with a young team a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: They brought him back on a basically another one year deal.
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  Speaker 1: All right, coming back here, Cody, you know what, what
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  Speaker 1: what made me think of uh of the Placo thing
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  Speaker 1: was like his story and like how he got the
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  Speaker 1: Seattle and what he kind of experiencing in Seattle and
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  Speaker 1: bringing them to previously unseen heights and nobody put that
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  Speaker 1: kind of burden on Glabor Torres, but like that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of the thinking is that this guy's gonna this
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  Speaker 1: is a veteran who can kind of bring this guy
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  Speaker 1: also second basement also again bring this team, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to the next level. And Glabor, while he played well
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  Speaker 1: in the majority of the year, technically didn't bring him
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  Speaker 1: to the next level because got to the exact same spot.
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  Speaker 1: It's previous season. But we all understood what Glabor's value was.
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  Speaker 1: Labor's a free agent. Now It's got me thinking who
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  Speaker 1: who from this team that was relied on is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be gone next year in twenty twenty six, and Glabor
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  Speaker 1: Torres is at the top of the list. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: say this, we didn't talk, we didn't discuss this with
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  Speaker 1: the Scott Harris press conference news conference earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 1: but the way that everybody talks about Glabor, dude, Scott Harris,
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  Speaker 1: aj Hinch and he was like, I couldn't give him
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  Speaker 1: a day off. He'd be in my office right away,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when he's dealing with the with the hernia situation.
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  Speaker 2: Sky Harris is like.
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  Speaker 1: We needed him, we needed his at bat, We needed
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know his approach and you know, veteran
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. And then we know how guys like
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  Speaker 1: Hobby feel about him. We know how the younger cats
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  Speaker 1: like took to him, you know throughout the season. Always
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  Speaker 1: always a good at bad at the top of that order.
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  Speaker 1: Austin Jackson has talked about the value of the guy
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  Speaker 1: like that in your order.
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  Speaker 2: What did they just like really try to bring him back?
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  Speaker 1: And that's almost kind of like plan a ish this offseason,
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  Speaker 1: Like what what if? That's kind of like a leading thing.
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  Speaker 1: They talk about it like they really like him and
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  Speaker 1: they really value him. I don't know Planco did a
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  Speaker 1: second one year deal ish Taurus.
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  Speaker 3: A galaxy bringing moment here? Is it a good thing
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  Speaker 3: he had a hernie and had a very bad second half.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean his market's not going to be that great.
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  Speaker 3: You know, he talked before this about wanting one hundred
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  Speaker 3: million dollars and he is not going to get that.
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  Speaker 3: What is the most he gets? The qualifying offer is
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  Speaker 3: about twenty two million. Be fascinated to see if the
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  Speaker 3: Tigers extend that to him. I think he's still going
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  Speaker 3: to want a multi year deal, but is anyone even
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  Speaker 3: going to give him three sixty I feel like that
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  Speaker 3: would kind of be like a max for glabor Torres
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  Speaker 3: of three forty five? Is that in the realm? Could
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  Speaker 3: you get him one a one or two year deal
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  Speaker 3: with some options? I think it kind of makes sense
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  Speaker 3: for the Tiger. Here's you heard Scott Harris spell out
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  Speaker 3: the concerns about contact, like quality of a bad He's
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  Speaker 3: kind of the one. He was the best at those
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  Speaker 3: things on your team. He could bring you more that
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  Speaker 3: veteran presence without the five six year commitment it's going
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  Speaker 3: to take to get Alex Bregman. Now you still need more,
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  Speaker 3: I think than just getting glabor Torres, but he would
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  Speaker 3: he still checks a lot of boxes and you might
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  Speaker 3: be able to get him on a relatively short term deal.
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  Speaker 3: It seemed like he liked Detroit a lot. I don't
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  Speaker 3: hate it, you know, my initial thoughts is I don't
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  Speaker 3: hate it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, like, what it comes down to me for me, Cody,
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  Speaker 1: is that you have contact and quality at bat back
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  Speaker 1: concerns up and down this order, and if you lose
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  Speaker 1: the only one that you could rely on to, as
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  Speaker 1: you said, check those boxes, it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: envision a roadmap to get better at those things. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Like like they don't sign labor Torres and they really
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  Speaker 1: struggle with contact and you know in quality at bats.
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  Speaker 1: Next season we're gonna be talking about like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what'd you expect, Like you got rid of the one
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  Speaker 1: guy who was the one you could rely on to
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  Speaker 1: do that.
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  Speaker 2: And so and so like yeah that.
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  Speaker 1: Like like that, because maybe you can find a middle
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you can do sort of like the Torres level
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  Speaker 1: player version of the Alex Bregman Boston Red Sox contract
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  Speaker 1: where he gets an opt out and you just you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll play. We'll, we'll, you know, play this game for
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven and figure it out, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: people have concerns about him defensively.
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  Speaker 2: I know some numbers don't favor him. I'm just telling you.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at his Baseball reference page is d war
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: zero point zero, which I was shocked by.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm gonna have to look into how
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: they calculate that, because every metric Hey is negative, but
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: uh not as bad as you think negative four defensive
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: run saved you can you can live with that. Yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: this is why it's so fascinating. You could argue the
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: best case for the offense to sign Bregman in to
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: sign Glaber Torres. You got two veteran hitters who can
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: control at bats, who have some intangible skills. I don't know.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Kevin McGonagall maybe he plays a lot of short, Maybe
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: him and Hobby almost like platoon at short or something,
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and you can mix in McGonagall at some of those
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: other positions. What would that mean for Cole Keith? I
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: have no idea, but him back at first? What would
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: that mean for Spencer Torgals? And I have no idea.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Where's Zach McKinstry fitting all this. That's why this is
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: going to be a really interesting offseason for the Tigers,
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: because I think they have to get at least one
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: of these guys, probably two of these type of guys,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: and that's gonna require some sort of movement from someone
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: else who is still a young player with some upside.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know what that looks like. It'd be easy
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: to write Glabor Toures off and just be like, all right,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: that spot's gonna go to McGonagall, which is great, but
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: that's a left handed bat versus a right handed bat.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: So you're gonna be a little more unbalanced, and you're
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: gonna be trying to win a World Series and putting
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: a lot of trust in a very player who hasn't
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: even played in Triple A. Yeah, I don't know, let's
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: figure out.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, if if you don't bring back Torres,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you're not gonna be able. You're not Like, if you're
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: not bringing back Torres, you're not bringing back somebody. Also,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that's at his price point. I'm assuming, like, like it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: it's probably Torres or Bust in terms of that price
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: point worthy of free agent. So that's a guess could
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: be wrong.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: But that's that's.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: The I mean, maybe you get Placo. But but but
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: at the same time, like if you like, you can't
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: just go in with McGonagall as your only plan at
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: second base, Like that's not really fair to him, It's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: not fair to the rest of the team, no matter
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: what kind of prospect status he is. Remember like it
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like he's we will we don't know if he's ready yet.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: So any projection is an assumption with a capital A
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: S S. So uh, you just do like a Jase
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and a Max and a Lee and a McGonagall, and
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you just kind of like throw them a all out
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: there and say, like, all right, we got a couple
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: of spots here, including starting second baseman, you know, like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the Shannon Sharpe me. You know, he figure it out,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: go go, you know, do your thing here. How how
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: confident in that process are you? For a team again
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: trying to win a World Series in the last year
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: of a school bol contract.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: The more I talk about, the only thing that's not
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: messy is bringing back labor, right.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: I think you're right. I think you're right. I think
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I've talked myself into it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: So we shall we shall see, we shall see.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna go through five names of guys who
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: may or may not be gone from this roster next year.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Next one is the only guy, I guess, it's it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: fair to say, the only guy that you got good
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: return on at the trade deadline, and that's Kyle Finnegan,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: who was literally, I guess metaphorically still but like lights
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: out when you when you first got him. Then he
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: gets hurt and he comes back and he's still good.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: He has a couple slips slip ups here and there,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: but he was still a reliable guy, back, ending usage
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: guy in the pen. He did have a six point
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: two to three era in the Division series, came into
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: some tough situations obviously and everything. You know, obviously the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: teams are better the leaper you go into the playoffs.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He is going to be thirty four next year, you know.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I just feel like this, this this spells thank you
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: for your service. But we're probably gonna move on to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: someone younger and cheaper.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: That's just my guess. But nothing anti finding it. It's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: just my guess.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I'd actually be all four bringing finningganim back. He was
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: a free agent last year and didn't have a very
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: good market. He got a one year, five point three
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: million dollar deal traded the Tigers. This guy was born
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: in Detroit, has some ties. They helped him get a
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: lot better with his pitch usage. He struck out eleven
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: point five batters per nine innings in the regular season.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: He is thirty four, but he didn't debut until age
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: twenty eight. Not that much mileage on his arm. It's
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: worth noting he's been like very healthy for the bulk
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: of his career. The groin strain or adduct or strain
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: with the Tigers was almost like a blip on the radar,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: and they used him a lot. I don't think Finnegan
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: is the one solution with your bullpen, But again, you
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: look at other guys you can get in maybe that
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: five six million dollar range, and is there anyone you're
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: gonna like more than Kyle Finnegan, Anyone you already have
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a relationship with, You've already tapped
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: into some of the hidden upside with I'm not sure
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: you're gonna find a much better option, and your bullpen
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: needs to get better. It needs to get better beyond
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: just Kyle Finnegan, you need to have confidence he can
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: continue to miss bats at the rate he did in
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: his time with the Tigers. But I think like Labor Torres,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: he kind of checks a lot of boxes.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Still, it is worth noting I would be intrigued what
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: an off season of planning and instruction from the Tigers
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: brass to Finnegan, what that could do for him in
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: their system. So I will, I will, I will, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: will say that as well, And then we don't necessarily
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: know we have to spend a whole lot of time
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: on this. But Tommy Kinley, what a what a what
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a whirlwind of experiences we had with that guy this season,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Cody the the quirky personality, the change up stuff, and
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: then just not being able to talk about not missing bats,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: not missing bats at all, ride the ship a little bit,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: but still was someone that I don't think you felt
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: great about when he came in in crucial situations down
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the stretch. But he's a free agent, so I And
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: also another guy that's like what thirty five years old, So.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Cainley for sure is one they're going
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: to be moving on from thirty six. What a strange time,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: It really good first half, a really bad second half
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: ended up being on the mound, you know when when
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: your season ended. Yeah, they're going to move on him,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: which begs the question, Okay, how else are you improving
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: this bullpen? A bullpen that was still a bottom two
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: or three in the league in terms of generating swing
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: and miss. Tommy Kinley's not your answer. There's gonna be
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: some guys who are free agents, including I'm gonna advocate
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: for Brian Helsley again, had a terrible second half after
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: getting traded to the Mets. Great news for the Tigers.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: The market value is going to go down a little bit.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: You're so probably gonna have to pay for him. He
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: throws a hundred, Pay for him a little bit. Fix them,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: have a dude who throws a hundred at the back
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: of your bullpen. To go with Vest, to go with Finnegan,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: to go with impending returns of maybe Adjason Foley or
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: a Bowbriskie. You got to get serious about improving your
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: pin and having some real power, velocity and swinging miss.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: That's probably gonna mean paying for a guy a little
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: bit in free agency, paying for someone whose market has
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: gone down like a Helsley. Uh, not at all a
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: bad idea in my opinion.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: All right, we are going to continue down this list
• 25:04
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• 26:12
  Speaker 1: All right coming back here, honorable mentioned real quick Cody,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a Quiel Bad is going to be a free agent,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: uh as obviously as of his as is his right.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say we were there the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: entire time with the akil bad experience. Was his first season,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: was the year that we started doing this pod back
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: when we had a different name that I won't say
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: because I don't want you to go to that feed,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: stay on this feed. And we were talking the whole
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: epitome of the Akielba Do experience was if if you're
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: thinking about, like, oh, should I get a jersey? Should
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I get like a jersey shirt of the Kielba do,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: do it because it's gonna be cool that like I said,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: he's not on the team anymore, it's gonna be cool.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: People are gonna see that as like, yeah, a quel
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: will do. I remember how fun that was.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: That was a moment in time, man and and I agree.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: And by the way, he had himself a nice moment
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: here this season and that Toronto series won in a game.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, just the Akil Bado experience, it looks
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like it's coming to a close. It was fun but
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: probably reached its natural conclusion. Good for him for having
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the major league stay in power that he's sustained this year,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: because again rule five pick and never played above hy
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: A really cool story.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: So I just want to make mention of that.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what a what a weird story? Man like you said,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: A good one, A fun one, worth two war and
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: a one twelve ops plus in his first major league
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: season as a rule five pick, hadn't played above high
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: A never reached those heights again. I'll be fascinated to
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: see what kind of market there is for him. He
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: has enough tools, lefty bats, some speed. I don't think
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: he has an option, so that works against him. But
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: you'd like to think there'll be a long list of
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: teams interested in him on a minor league deal. Is
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: there a I don't know, someone like the Marlins or
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: the White Sox, or it's someone random, even though the
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Martins might be all right next year, someone just kind
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of random. That would be like willing to take a
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: chance when to kill bad in a major league deal.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I wouldn't roll it out.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be pulling for him, you know that's
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: for sure. So all right, moving on to uh.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: To another guy, that at one point in time was
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: kind of a gem of a fine from from the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: front office, and that is Andy A. Banyees, Andy A Banyez, Cody.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I will remind everybody his age thing is real. Andy
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Banyez will be thirty three basically on opening day next season.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I think his birthday's like April third or something like that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: We know he got sent down, we know he did
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: end up, you know, coming up big in a couple
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of spots down the stretch this past season. But overall, Cody,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: he was only a seven to fourteen ops guy against
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching, and he's an above average defender, but
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: he's not like a great defender. That's not really why
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you're having him.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: On the team.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: It just feels like, if you if you can figure
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: out something to do with Jamaia Jones, you have some
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: of these other guys that probably we talk about Labor
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Torres kind of like blocking some young players.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: A guy like Andy A.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Banyez is also somebody who could block some of your prospects.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking mainly of like a Max Anderson type who
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: has also played all over the infield as a minor leaguer,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: he had a Max Anderson did and the Miners, mind you,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: but he had a one point one seven ops against
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching. Uh. This kind of feels like an
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: area where you get younger and you kind of figure
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: it out. That's just a guess for me. What do
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: you think about the possibility of Andy of Banyez this
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: time with the Tigers coming to an end?
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure. It certainly seems like they've kind
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: of outgrown him, and really he just hasn't performed well
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: enough to merit a guaranteed spot even in the second
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: half seven oh one ops. Really, past eighteen months of
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Andy A Banias has not been what you would hope for.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: But he's still under team control. His arbitration projection is
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: one point eight million dollars. I think if he still
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: had an option, the Tigers would bring him back in
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: a heartbeat. My understanding is he is out of options,
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: assuming that's correct. Would they pull one of those things
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: where you assign them to a preemptive you know, one
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: point eight million deal or two million or something, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: then if you have to option them, hope that you
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: can get them through waivers. Maybe that's on the table.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: At the same time, Like, are we still doing that.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Are the Tigers still in this timeline as an organization
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: where that is something that makes sense. You would kind
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: of like to think they would outgrow it, maybe if
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: they sign or acquire somehow a couple better quality infielders.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: You don't really need him in that platoon role because
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: it does seem much Ami Jones is now going to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: be the per for right handed bat. He just doesn't
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: have the defensive value of Andy, especially in the infield.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know that it's cut and dry, but it
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: does seem like the case for Andy Abanias is not
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: great at this point.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like it's, uh, you know, sometimes it's
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: a numbers game in a variety of factors. I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: for him it's a it's a it's a couple of
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: numbers game things where what's his real value?
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: What's I mean?
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Obviously, yeah, yeah, exactly so. But again, if.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be fair here, we had a similar ish
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: discussion about Zach McKinstry last season, and he went and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: had an All Star season. So maybe Andy and Bonia
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: is his back and he becomes an.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: All Star in at the All Star Game next year.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Uh, lastly on our five list here.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Jack Flarity, Jack Clarity, the man who talks to himself
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: national television and uh he was, he was, he was
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: one of your more reliable guys this year, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in in the starting rotation in terms of you know,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: taking the ball every fifth day.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Uh And and.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: He has the ability to opt out of this contract.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Was he got twenty million next year if he if
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: he does not exercise his option.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Uh so twenty million on the books.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: He's still young enough that he could get a multi
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: year deal maybe, but we went through this last year.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. This is this is a tough one.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: There doesn't appear to be any sort of lean like
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest, we talked just you and I. You
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: say you don't have a lean so like nobody else's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: seems to indicate anything with h with what's gonna happen
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to Jack flaerty.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: But there's a couple there's a couple of ways where
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: he could not be.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: On the team next year, and you and you go
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: with another option plus Olsen back and Joe back and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and you know figure it out from there.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Here's really this is weird. Jack Flaherty's to twenty million
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: if he picks up his option. If he declined the option,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: he would be eligible for a twenty two million dollar
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: qualifying offer, So it seemed to make sense decline the option,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: get the qualifying offer, take it. In that case, coming
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: off a bad year, if you're the Tigers, are you
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: actually going to extend him the qualifying offer or would
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: you rather just move on not pay him twenty two
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: million to have an er in the fource. The downside
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: of that is like looking at free agency, other guys
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: you could get on a one year deal. Do you
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: feel better about any of them than you do Jack Flaherty?
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Do they have more upside than Jack Flaherty? With the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: exception of one name, I'm gonna whisper Justin Verlander. I'm
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: not sure you feel a lot better about any of
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: these guys. And we'll see what happens with Scooble. But
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: there's a world where you're really going to need multiple
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: starting pitchers. There's some trendy names out there. Dylan Ceez,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: who's going to get a big payday from Rivaldez going
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: to get a big payday, some other interesting ones. Michael
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Kings at Gallon. We can kind of keep going here.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I have a feeling Jack is going
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: to be back one way or another. I'm just going
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: to be fascinated what the actual mechanics of that will
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: be given kind of the various scenarios at play.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: I also do believe he'll be back.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I do believe if he opts out or exercises option checking,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: get the terminology correct, like the qualifying offer would be
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in play and offered, because from the Tiger's perspective, you
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: just you had to make it up on the fly,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: literally on the fly for a second consecutive year on
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: putting together a starting pitching rotation because of injuries and
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: this that the other thing. I just feel like there's
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: a known commodity aspect to this, and you don't let
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: that asset walk out the door if you don't need to.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: You know, like everybody has a confidence in the world.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: The meltin, we'll see what Joe looks like after surgery.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Olsen should, I believe, have a relatively full off season
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of health and training and all that stuff, and then
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: you know, yet myes in there as well. But I
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: just don't think you're I just don't think you're letting
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: established veterans on it again a team trying to win
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  Speaker 1: the World Series here that like, you know, walk out
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  Speaker 1: the door basically. So I do believe he'll be back,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: but there are you laid him out several mechanic mechanical
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: aspects where he could not be back next year, So
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that pretty much covers it. There are
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: some others who won't be back. The great Chris Paddock,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: the great Paul Sea walled, Jake Rogers has been getting
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: brought up. I hope they bring back Jake. You know,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: his arbitration projection is two point nine million, so still
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: not a lot you're going to be paying. You can
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: get a backup catch of similar ability on a minor
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: league deal, though, So how much is Jake's like clubhouse
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: presence and all that where it's still a really good defender.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I tend to think they're going to bring him back,
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: and then they have a lot of guys are eligible.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: You're not getting dudes for free anymore. But when you
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: scroll down this list s Google mis Rogers, Vest mckinstreet, Veerling,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: fully Laying Banyas Green, Torklesing Carpenter or Briskie Holton. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: think almost all those guys are coming back. The one
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: who's maybe the most questionable, Alex Lang. He's only projected
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: to get nine hundred k. Is that worth rolling the dice?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I kind of think so. I think so fully. The
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: extent of his injury would be more interesting to know.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Because he's due three point one point five million. You
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: better be confident he can pitch and pitch well next year.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: But this is a young team that's getting older. Still cheap,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: controllable players, but really every year from now, these decisions
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: are going to need to get harder and harder, and
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: you're gonna part with some of these guys. There's going
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: to be turnover two more Harris regime players.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's the price of winning. That's
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the price of having somebody like school Bul that gives
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you a the opportunity to win ball games and then
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: be the pressure to win ball games. So again, like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I said last or earlier this week, like in some
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of these cases, don't fall, don't.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Fall in love, don't fall in love, fall and.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Like fall and like uh and we'll see what happens.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: So so yeah, this is actually a little bit of
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a challenging actually, like because there's a lot of guys
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: you just know they're going to bring back and what
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I want to circle back just real quick. We get
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: questions about Dylan Dingler contract extension possibilities every now and
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: then on socials. I'll just say my piece on that
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: until Scott Harris shows me a different behavior. I just
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: don't think he's going to do something that A he
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to do and B it or B isn't
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: greatly beneficial for him, uh, you know, running this team.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So like if if Dingler wanted something similar to like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: cult Keith extension ish or whatever, maybe we'll do that.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: But like he doesn't have to do it, and it's
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: not gonna be a great benefit to him. I imagine
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna do it. I'm I mean critical,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is an interesting candidate. If I'm Scott Harris,
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I would not rush into anything because he's a catcher
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and you just never know is he really gonna hit
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: like he hit this year? You certainly hope so, but
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know that that's any guarantee. And if I'm
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Dyllan Dingler's agent, I'm saying, bro, we're not signing this
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: because you're gonna be a perennial All Star and we're
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: gonna get you a huge payday in a few years time. Well,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I'd say that's pretty unlikely at this point.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, so likely, not gonna likely, gonna be an
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: offseason without any extensions, that seems to be the indications.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: But there's another pre debut extension for somebody which would
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: again take an agent like probably unlikely, but you never know.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: You never know, you never know, all right, did we
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: get this right? Everybody? So we had we had labor Finnegan,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Kinley at Bonyez and Flaherty and we talked them all
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: out this unlike, who's not gonna be back? It's like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: what what happened? How could it happen? Type discussion?
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