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Credlin | 19 February · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program, coming to you from
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Speaker 2: our super studio here in Sydney. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on the program, the first sit down TV interview
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Speaker 2: with you Liberal leader Angus Taylor.
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Speaker 3: Now we get.
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Speaker 2: Across a whole range of topics national security, energy, the economy,
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Speaker 2: but also culture. Plus a special sneak peek behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes from inside the Liberal Party group. Bombshell encrypted messages
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Speaker 2: from within the Syrian camp holding of the Islamic women
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Speaker 2: show gouvernment officials are in fact working with them despite protests.
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Speaker 2: More today too from the Prime Minister saying they are
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Speaker 2: doing nothing to help them. Here he is, and I'll
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Speaker 2: explain a little bit more about why he's doing it.
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Speaker 2: Plus from one leader under pressure to another, just into
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Speaker 2: Alan digging in as calls grow for a Royal commission
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Speaker 2: into the ceafm AU and her role in the fifteen
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Speaker 2: billion dollars allegedly funneled into the hands of organized crime,
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Speaker 2: and the pressures. The pressure is getting to the Victorian Premier.
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Speaker 2: I'll show you her blowing up today at a press
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Speaker 2: conference and you'll see that full Angus Taylor interview shortly,
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Speaker 2: of course, but the big question on the minds of
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Speaker 2: all Liberal supporters is he the man to bring them
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Speaker 2: out of the wilderness.
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Speaker 4: By going back to those call they use the politics
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Speaker 4: of conviction, making sure we are absolutely, relentlessly focused on
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Speaker 4: restoring Australia's standard of living, protecting Australian's way of life,
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Speaker 4: recognizing that this is the greatest nation on earth.
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Speaker 2: But first, the more that's discovered about those Islamic state women.
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Speaker 2: Some call them isis brides, I call them co conspirators.
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Speaker 2: The worst it looks the Alkansic government, the worst it
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Speaker 2: looks for the Immigration Minister Tony Burke, and the worst
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Speaker 2: it looks for the Prime Minister. Today Anthony Albanezi was
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Speaker 2: left lamely repeating his previews lines that the government is
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Speaker 2: not involved in repatriating these terrorist accomplices, all the while
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Speaker 2: admitting that the government has been issuing them with passports
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Speaker 2: because the Prime Minister says that's the law here.
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Speaker 5: He is well, having an implementation of Australian law is
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Speaker 5: what is happening. We're providing no assistance to these people
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Speaker 5: and won't provide any assistance to these people. But we
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Speaker 5: won't breach Australian law.
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Speaker 2: Now, there's only one way to describe those words from
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister lies absolute bs and it says to
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Speaker 2: me that he doesn't even know his own laws, or
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Speaker 2: if he does, he's unwilling to enforce them. Here is
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Speaker 2: Section fourteen if the Australian Passports Act two thousand and five.
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Speaker 2: It is a Commonwealth piece of legislation, and it is
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Speaker 2: and provides the laws that govern the issuance, administration and
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Speaker 2: the cancelation of Australian passports. It's this Act that establishes
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Speaker 2: that Australian citizens have a right to a passport, but
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Speaker 2: crucially at the same time empowering the Minister to refuse
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Speaker 2: or cancel such passports and to impose strict security measures.
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Speaker 2: So the laws to grant the passport but also the
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Speaker 2: laws to take a passport away as well as the
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Speaker 2: laws to refuse one outright. And yet if you listen
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Speaker 2: to the Prime Minister, he wants you to think his
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Speaker 2: hands are tied, that anyone wanting an Australian passport must
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Speaker 2: be given one. So what could the Prime Minister be
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Speaker 2: doing now to stop these Islamic state women returning to
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Speaker 2: Australia under existing laws. Section fourteen. Have a look here.
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Speaker 2: It is the Australian Passports Act. It says if a
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Speaker 2: competent authority and that's basically a delegate of the Minister
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Speaker 2: suspects on reasonable grounds that the person to whom a
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Speaker 2: passport might otherwise be issued quote might prejudice the security
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Speaker 2: of Australia, the competent authority may make a refusal. So
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Speaker 2: let's spell that out. The government is perfectly entitled to
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Speaker 2: refuse to issue a passport to people who might be
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Speaker 2: a security risk, and it has the laws now right
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Speaker 2: now tonight to do this. I meaning, the reason these
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Speaker 2: jihadi women are getting a passport to come to Australia
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Speaker 2: is because the Albanezi government wants them to have one.
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Speaker 2: It is not that they can't stop them. They can.
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Speaker 2: They have the laws now, but clearly not the political will.
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Speaker 2: And how could these women not be a security risk
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Speaker 2: under that act given they knowingly left Australia and join
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Speaker 2: the listed Islamic state terror group. They broke the law
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Speaker 2: to do it. Let's not forget that at the time
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Speaker 2: they married hardened terrorists, they had children to hardened terrorists,
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Speaker 2: to breed the terrorists of the future and have now
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Speaker 2: spent years and years in camps mostly populated by hardened terrorists,
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Speaker 2: so of course the government could refuse to issue them passports.
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Speaker 2: I've just outlined the case against these women. But clearly,
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Speaker 2: as far as labor's concerned, the Muslim lobby and seats
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Speaker 2: like Tony Burke's in Sydney holds more sway of the
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Speaker 2: Albanese government than the majority view of Australians. Now, we've
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Speaker 2: known for some days that the Great Political Ally of
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Speaker 2: Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke is the prominent Sydney GP
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Speaker 2: doctor Jamal Riffi, and he has been in Syria trying
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Speaker 2: to repatriate these terrorist accomplices. Today we learned via the
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph newspaper that it was not just doctor Riffi
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Speaker 2: there helping to get these Islamic State women to Australia.
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Speaker 2: There was, on the basis of what's in the paper,
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Speaker 2: encrypted messages, a government delegate, it says, in the camp
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Speaker 2: working with these isis women and doing DNA testing before
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Speaker 2: handing over Australian passports. Indeed, the women's messages, translated from
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Speaker 2: Arabic into English reportedly say and I quote the Australian
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Speaker 2: government has concluded DNA tests for the sisters and children,
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Speaker 2: issued Australian passports for them, and sent a delegation to
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Speaker 2: accompany the families back to Australia. So the government that's
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Speaker 2: supposedly not involved at all in any of this, has
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Speaker 2: not just had a key labor political ally doctor Riffe
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Speaker 2: over there, according to these messages, is actually sent a
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Speaker 2: delegation to test the women and the children, to issue
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Speaker 2: them passports and to escort them back to Australia. Now,
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Speaker 2: plainly the government's up to their eyeballs in all of this.
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Speaker 2: The Telegraph quotes a high level security source, presumably someone
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Speaker 2: who knows all about this delegation, saying quote, the government
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Speaker 2: has been quietly making these repatriation plans for months now.
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Speaker 2: These claims in the Telegraph today are explosive and since
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Speaker 2: the story broke today, Tony Burke has hidden from the
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Speaker 2: media and the Prime Minister well, he's only held highly
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Speaker 2: stage managed events and avoided questions. Clearly, full and frank
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Speaker 2: answers must now been given about this delegation. How big
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Speaker 2: was it or is it? Who is in it? Are
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Speaker 2: we talking about officials, paid contractors or as has been
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Speaker 2: rumored to me when I was in Canberra in visuals
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Speaker 2: with a Special Forces connection, So current or former Australian soldiers.
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Speaker 2: And here's the question almost every Australian is asking tonight.
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Speaker 2: How could a government that says it takes the safety
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Speaker 2: and security of Australian seriously, just two months on from
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Speaker 2: the worst terror atrocity ever committed in this country, allegedly
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Speaker 2: inspired by Islamic State connive to bring back Islamic State
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Speaker 2: accomplices into Australia. Now, if you don't want terrorism in Australia,
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Speaker 2: you don't import it, you don't bring in people who
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Speaker 2: actively support it and maybe even participated in terrorism. Now, honestly,
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Speaker 2: this is an outrage. This is an absolute outrage. Shure,
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Speaker 2: these people are female and some are miners. But does
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Speaker 2: anyone think that women and adolescents can't be terrorists?
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Speaker 6: Wake up?
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Speaker 2: You know they can. I know they can. Again, here
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Speaker 2: is former Federal Police counter terrorism expert David Craig.
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Speaker 3: It's my opinion that every single one of these isis
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Speaker 3: brides is either fully radicalized or subservient to those that are.
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Speaker 3: That's the only way you could end up in this
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Speaker 3: trying to be part of Islamic Caliphate and leave a
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Speaker 3: peaceful country to go and do so. Now, if they're
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Speaker 3: either of those two, they are an unacceptable risk.
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Speaker 2: And yet tonight we know the Albinezer government actively assisting
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Speaker 2: potential terrorists to enter this country. Yes, as I said,
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Speaker 2: it is an outrage, but I also think this is
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Speaker 2: getting close to betraying our country. Some would even say
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Speaker 2: it is treasonous, but hardly be a person tonight not
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Speaker 2: shaking their head angrily at the Prime Minister for letting
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Speaker 2: the demands of terrorists sympathizes in Syria trump the rights
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Speaker 2: of decent Australians to be safe in our own country.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Camra now for the headlines.
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Speaker 2: Sky News political reporter cam Redden.
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Speaker 7: Good evening, the Coalition says more should be done to
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Speaker 7: block the return of thirty four women and children from
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Speaker 7: Syria to Australia.
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Speaker 4: This government is not taking the measures it needs to
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Speaker 4: take to shut the door.
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Speaker 7: The so called Isis brides and their children have been
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Speaker 7: issued passports. Current laws don't allow a minister to unilaterally
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Speaker 7: refuse or cancel one unless advised to do so by
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Speaker 7: security agencies. Should a minister have the power to refuse
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Speaker 7: an Australian citizen.
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Speaker 4: Be granted, pop well, absolutely if this person is going
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Speaker 4: to bring hatred and violence to our part of the world,
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Speaker 4: we would.
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Speaker 2: Like to see something a little more transparent from the
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Speaker 2: agencies to determine whether these women do pose a threat.
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Speaker 4: We are taking advice of the security agencies.
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Speaker 8: The Minister will look at each of those situations on
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Speaker 8: a case by case basis.
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Speaker 7: Australia's unemployment rate has remained steady at four point one percent.
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Speaker 9: In these figures today.
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Speaker 10: I don't expect that there's any surprises for the RBA
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Speaker 10: in terms of our jobs market.
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Speaker 7: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right, joining me as they often do on our
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Speaker 2: Thursday Sky News contributed Carolli Kats and Barnas and the
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Speaker 2: host of our Power How Hear on sky News Digital
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Speaker 2: gab Power. Thank you to you both, Caroly. No one
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Speaker 2: is buying that spin from the Prime Minister or Tony
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Speaker 2: Burke when it comes to these Islamic state women. But
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Speaker 2: based on these encrypted messages reported in the Daily Telegraph today,
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Speaker 2: we now know there was a government delegate there, a
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Speaker 2: government delegate who has conducted DNA testing and has helped
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Speaker 2: issue them passports, and we know that there is more
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Speaker 2: in that series of messages because they talk about rumored
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Speaker 2: security sorts. The pem's got no credibility, Burke's got no
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Speaker 2: credibility claiming that they are doing nothing to assist these
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Speaker 2: terrorist sympathizers to get back into Australia. Surely the game's
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Speaker 2: up now and they must answer these serious questions.
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Speaker 11: Well, you would hope so, but given the track record
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Speaker 11: of Anthony Albanezi and Tony Burke, I don't think that
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Speaker 11: they will. But surely Australians know that someone must have
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Speaker 11: known something at some point. These children were DNA tested
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Speaker 11: before the passports were issued. And as we know, there
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Speaker 11: is one exclusion order that has been issued for one
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Speaker 11: particular woman, let's call her the sacrificial Lamb. What makes
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Speaker 11: the other women and children any different. There are people
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Speaker 11: that might say, oh, you know, the children, they shouldn't
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Speaker 11: be paying for the sins of their moms or their dads.
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Speaker 11: But as we know of five or a six year old,
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Speaker 11: within ten years they're going to be a teenager. The
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Speaker 11: women went over there initially because they were radicalized here
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Speaker 11: in Australia. They've been over there for ten years. They're
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Speaker 11: not mysteriously going to become deradicalized and come back. And
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Speaker 11: the thing is for a normal Australian here in Australia,
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Speaker 11: one to afford an Australian passport at four hundred and
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Speaker 11: twenty six dollars to be able to log on and
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Speaker 11: do it on a computer. It's not easy for all
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Speaker 11: Australians and miraculously they're able to do all this without
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Speaker 11: any help when they're in the middle of the desert.
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Speaker 11: It's not good enough. And you know Tony Burke, you
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Speaker 11: can just tell that he must be involved. I mean
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Speaker 11: doctor Jamal Reefi has completely trashed his reputation. You know
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Speaker 11: he ran the Friends of Burke, which was the labor
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Speaker 11: fundraiser for Tony Burke. But this is all murky and
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Speaker 11: we need to actually wake up. We need to wake
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Speaker 11: up that these are not innocent women that went over.
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Speaker 11: They went over deliberately and they should not be allowed
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Speaker 11: back into Australia.
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Speaker 2: And look, just on that point, I think using the
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Speaker 2: term isis bribes and my viewers know I have tried
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Speaker 2: to avoid it wherever I can, and I think it
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Speaker 2: just diminishes their culpability and diminishes their involvement in terrorism.
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Speaker 2: I think we've got to understand their motivations, what they did,
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Speaker 2: that they were there to breed the cubs of the
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Speaker 2: caliphate and something I think that you know, Phil Thompson,
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Speaker 2: an MP obviously but a former soldier, really picked up
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Speaker 2: on last night.
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Speaker 6: Have a listen.
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Speaker 8: There is no such thing as ISIS brides. So everyone
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Speaker 8: wants to talk about ISIS brides and they should be
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Speaker 8: able to do There's no such thing. They are members
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Speaker 8: of ISIS. They went there willing. They have often picked
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Speaker 8: up arms. They have fought in the name of ISIS.
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Speaker 2: Yab has worn our uniform, he has fought terrorists. I
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Speaker 2: think he's an expert when it comes to this.
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Speaker 10: Well, I heard on radio today this group being described
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Speaker 10: as ISIS wags a bit of dark humor there, but
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Speaker 10: you know, members of ISIS really spells it out because
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Speaker 10: this is you know, these are people that left Australia
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Speaker 10: to go and join one of them most horrific violent
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Speaker 10: terrorist organizations on the planet. And I know you've made
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Speaker 10: this point, Peter. Just because their women does not mean
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Speaker 10: that they are not fully radicalized. Now we know that
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Speaker 10: Anthony ALBERNIZI has just been lying and gas lighting every
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Speaker 10: step of the way. From the very beginning. It was
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Speaker 10: denying media reports, gas lighting journalists breaking the story, all
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Speaker 10: while these plans have been unfolding and treating Australians like idiots.
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Speaker 10: And Australians are of course still traumatized. Just a few
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Speaker 10: months on from Bondai where, of course fifteen innocent people
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Speaker 10: were killed, including ten year old Matilda, allegedly ISIS inspired.
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Speaker 10: So these reports today, the government's alleged involvement over in
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Speaker 10: Syria bringing these ISIS brides, members of ISIS here into
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Speaker 10: our country. I mean, it is such a big concern.
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Speaker 10: Where is the concern for safety, The safety I should
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Speaker 10: say of Australians.
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Speaker 2: We owe them nothing. Britain does not bring back any
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Speaker 2: of their ISIS members, FEMA children included, we owe them nothing.
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Speaker 2: I want to flick down as the Victorian issues, because
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Speaker 2: it really ramped up for justint to Alan today, this
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Speaker 2: whole issue, not just to the c if MBU an
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Speaker 2: alleged corruption, but the fifteen billion dollars missing out of
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Speaker 2: the coffers of Victorian taxpayers and allegedly funneled into the
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Speaker 2: hands of organized crime. Just listen to this exchange the.
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Speaker 9: Same to Jeffrey Watson.
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Speaker 12: They don't see they've can report it because they have
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Speaker 12: already uprooted their lives for fear of people that are
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Speaker 12: no longer read to see.
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Speaker 2: If you're consulting the CFMU, if you.
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Speaker 12: Look just interested, I'll make two points on this and
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Speaker 12: can I ask that you retract that last point?
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Speaker 7: I know you're not.
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Speaker 12: Could I ask that you retract that last comment for
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Speaker 12: this press conference to continue us, that you retract that last.
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Speaker 2: Observation Caroline, she's trying the old Dan Andrews trick of
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Speaker 2: being the rough bully with the journalist and hoping the
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Speaker 2: problem goes away. But it's not going to go away.
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Speaker 11: Well, it's not going to be going the way. It
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Speaker 11: doesn't whether it's fifteen billion, five billion, or fifty billion,
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Speaker 11: the bottom line is at some point she has either
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Speaker 11: been the minister responsible for the projects or she has
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Speaker 11: actually been the Premier. And every day that this goes
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Speaker 11: on that she doesn't address it makes victorians realize that
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Speaker 11: perhaps she has something to hide. She's already sent out
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Speaker 11: the attack dog of Anthony Carbines, who's been very rude
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Speaker 11: to Jeffrey Watson. Sc But one thing Peter that I
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Speaker 11: wanted to just draw attention to the viewers. I know
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Speaker 11: that you know this, but it's quite ironic. In twenty fourteen,
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Speaker 11: when Dan Andrews actually won the election, one of the
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Speaker 11: very first acts that he did was to disband the
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Speaker 11: Code Compliance Unit that was set up by the Ted
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Speaker 11: Baylee Liberal led government specifically to control and investigate CFMEU corruption,
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Speaker 11: specifically on public construction sites. The Victoria Big build projects
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Speaker 11: are public construction sites. So within twelve years we now
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Speaker 11: have fifteen billion dollars allegedly that has been funneled into this.
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Speaker 11: And it's ironic, isn't it Because at that time, as
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Speaker 11: I said, just Ciner Allen was one of the ministers
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Speaker 11: responsible and if anybody had any decency, premiers have resigned
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Speaker 11: for far less Barriofarrell for an alleged three thousand dollars
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Speaker 11: bottle of wine. This is just horrific and every single
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Speaker 11: Australian will be paying for this, not just the Victorian taxpayers,
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Speaker 11: because Victoria will end up being bailed out by the
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Speaker 11: Commonwealth because we are a complete basket case of a state.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to sit in our young mums won her
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Speaker 2: legal fight against the East Safety Commissioner over the right
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Speaker 2: to criticize a queer club at a primary school. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is a federal court decision. It marks the end
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Speaker 2: of a two year battle for this single mum who
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Speaker 2: has questioned why hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayer
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Speaker 2: money we're spent pursuing her through the courts. Not just
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Speaker 2: a win for free speech here again, but I think
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Speaker 2: a win for parents. Yes, you know, what are the
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Speaker 2: motivations of the E Safety Commissioner? Why this horrific waste
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Speaker 2: of taxpayer dollars? But what parent is it allowed to query?
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Speaker 2: Why on earth a queer club is promoted to young
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Speaker 2: primary school kids?
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Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean what on earth is a queer club
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Speaker 10: doing at school being promoted that way and then to
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Speaker 10: primary school students. So well done to this mother for
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Speaker 10: calling this out. What on earth is the Safety commissioner
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Speaker 10: doing trying to censor this mother and then spending thousands
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Speaker 10: of dollars of taxpayer dollars trying to fight this in court?
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Speaker 10: I mean, what a waste. It certainly raises a lot
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Speaker 10: of questions as to this overreach from the E Safety Commissioner.
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Speaker 10: Clearly she wants to determine what you can see and
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Speaker 10: what you can't see on the internet today, of course
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Speaker 10: is a win for free speech. Thank god there was
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Speaker 10: that ruling in the Federal court. This this mother winning.
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Speaker 10: But there are real concerns that there are going to
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Speaker 10: be more cases in the future and very concerning for
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Speaker 10: free speech in Australia with this. E Safety Commissioner.
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Speaker 2: Caroly just a quick one here. You know, all the
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Speaker 2: way through the campaign last year, and obviously we had
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Speaker 2: the death of the Pope in the election campaign, the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister was very open about his Catholicism. He was
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Speaker 2: seen in and out of the churches. He was mourning
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Speaker 2: the pope. I think he got a bit teary at
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Speaker 2: one stage. But interestingly, yesterday it was ash Wednesday. Not
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Speaker 2: a menship from the Prime Minister, no social media post
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Speaker 2: for anyone who is entering the season of Lent, but
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Speaker 2: he was out there on Ramadan. He put out a
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Speaker 2: message on Ramadan. What do you think of this?
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Speaker 11: Well, I don't think it's good. I mean, I think
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Speaker 11: it's very good that political leaders acknowledge all religions. But
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Speaker 11: you know, we've had with it's not religion, but we've
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Speaker 11: had happy Lunar New Year for Chinese Australians. He's done
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Speaker 11: a Ramadan greeting, but by deliberately not giving a greeting
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Speaker 11: for Catholic Easter, not that it's a happy occasion, but
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Speaker 11: by not giving an actual greeting, he's actually playing politics
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Speaker 11: with it. I've got a bit of a tip for
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Speaker 11: him as well. He won't be able to do anything,
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Speaker 11: but can I remind him that on Monday it's actually
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Speaker 11: Orthodox Easter. So because he hasn't done anything for Catholic Easter,
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Speaker 11: he can't really do anything for Orthodox Easter, which makes
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Speaker 11: him look very silly as a leader. And you mentioned
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Speaker 11: the trip that he went for the Pope's funeral last year,
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Speaker 11: Well we now see what it was for. It was
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Speaker 11: just a free trip to Italy. And we can also
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Speaker 11: remind viewers that the first time he was sworn into Parliament,
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Speaker 11: he didn't put he didn't swear on the Bible. The
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Speaker 11: second time around he did. And so you're either a
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Speaker 11: man of conviction and you do it. But by dividing
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Speaker 11: religious basis, and we have a Christian Judeo heritage in
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Speaker 11: this country, I think it's absolutely appalling. You have to
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Speaker 11: acknowledge all of them. If you're promoting multiculturalism, stop excluding
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Speaker 11: all religions.
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Speaker 2: Good on you for calling it out. Oliver there, thank
21:54
Speaker 2: you both. Let's go back to the issue of those
21:56
Speaker 2: Islamic state women want to be now. A former AFP
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Speaker 2: Detective Superintendent David Craig, David, I don't often have guests
22:04
Speaker 2: back on in the same week, but this issue has
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Speaker 2: not abated, and you are an expert. Damning reports today
22:11
Speaker 2: of encrypted messages coming out of that camp in Syria
22:14
Speaker 2: that absolutely indicate to my mind if they are if
22:19
Speaker 2: there's veracity in these messages, which I think there is,
22:21
Speaker 2: Obviously the government has been heavily involved in repatriating these women,
22:26
Speaker 2: despite the claims of the Prime Minister. Surely the evidence
22:31
Speaker 2: there is clear, and I want to know who is
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Speaker 2: in this delegation.
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Speaker 9: Very good question, Peter. There is a complete mismatch between
22:41
Speaker 9: the public statements and what's happening operationally on the ground.
22:44
Speaker 9: So now either the government wasn't ever involved and they've
22:49
Speaker 9: suddenly had a policy change very quickly, which does not
22:52
Speaker 9: seem logistically possible to be able to get people into
22:55
Speaker 9: northern Syria. If there has been change, I'd like to
23:00
Speaker 9: know what changed it. The fact that they've been able
23:03
Speaker 9: to assess one of the ISIS female ISIS members, as
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Speaker 9: we should more correctly call them as being too high
23:11
Speaker 9: risk to return to Australia and being excluded under a
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Speaker 9: temvery exclusion order. That means either the others are okay
23:17
Speaker 9: to come home or they haven't completed it. If their
23:20
Speaker 9: assessment hasn't been completed, they should not be allowed in.
23:22
Speaker 9: They should be held in abeyance, the same as the
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Speaker 9: other female.
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Speaker 2: Well, I want to pick up something I raised last
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Speaker 2: night and again tonight. This is the Australian Passports Act.
23:31
Speaker 2: David's very specific section fourteen says if a competent authority
23:36
Speaker 2: and basically that's the delegate of the Minister, suspecs on
23:39
Speaker 2: reasonable grounds that a person to whom a passport might
23:43
Speaker 2: otherwise be issued quote might prejudice the security of Australia,
23:47
Speaker 2: the competent authority may make a refusal. So this idea
23:51
Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister's hands are tied that under Australian
23:54
Speaker 2: law he must give these women and children passports. I
23:58
Speaker 2: call this out. He already has sufficient powers under the
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Speaker 2: Act to refuse passports.
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Speaker 9: Exactly. I mean this discretion is written into the Act
24:10
Speaker 9: for these exact circumstances that the fact that the Minister
24:13
Speaker 9: is choosing to choosing to ignore that discretion just highlights
24:20
Speaker 9: the cavalier attitude towards security. I mean, there is no obligation.
24:24
Speaker 9: It is an official instrument at the discretion of the
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Speaker 9: Minister in these circumstances, whether it's issued or not. And
24:31
Speaker 9: just to be clear, it's on reasonable grounds to suspect.
24:35
Speaker 9: That's a very low legal threshold. It's not believe it's
24:39
Speaker 9: above a rumor, but it's not much above that. So
24:42
Speaker 9: to suspect something you don't need a very high level
24:45
Speaker 9: of not a very high legal threshold. And this would
24:50
Speaker 9: clearly be satisfied. I would be satisfied if I was
24:52
Speaker 9: the minister. They would becoming anywhere near Australians chaws until
24:55
Speaker 9: I was sure there were no risks.
24:57
Speaker 2: Well, I hope you Camra Gallery, you have given this
24:59
Speaker 2: bloke a passed for the last couple of days, David.
25:01
Speaker 2: I hope they have got their copy of the Act
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Speaker 2: out and I hope they are listening to you. Thank
25:06
Speaker 2: you again for joining me as you do very often.
25:09
Speaker 2: Here is my security expect there, David Craig. All Right,
25:11
Speaker 2: a new shadow cabinet, a determination to unite a fractured party.
25:16
Speaker 2: Angus Taylor for his first sit down interview with me
25:19
Speaker 2: following his emphatic leadership win last Friday. His vision for
25:23
Speaker 2: the Liberals and Australia up next, Welcome back. I mentioned
25:31
Speaker 2: last night that no I was up in Canberra and
25:33
Speaker 2: I was pleased to be able to catch up with
25:35
Speaker 2: Angus Taylor at Parliament House as he sets about the
25:38
Speaker 2: task of rebuilding a broken and battered Liberal Party and
25:42
Speaker 2: as he says about reconnecting to with the elector. And
25:45
Speaker 2: he was very clear with me about the sort of
25:47
Speaker 2: discipline he wants to see back in the opposition, and
25:50
Speaker 2: that clarity and policy and communication, and I think's been
25:55
Speaker 2: absent for way too long. It's a wide ranging interview.
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Speaker 2: Let's start last Friday where all of this began.
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Speaker 4: The choice is simple for the Liberal Party, change or die,
26:10
Speaker 4: and I choose change. There was two candidates, Susan Lee
26:13
Speaker 4: and Angus Taylor, and Angus Taylor was successful.
26:16
Speaker 3: Exactly two thirds of the party were in Angus Taylor.
26:18
Speaker 3: Then what about that he smashed up.
26:24
Speaker 2: Angus Taylor.
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Speaker 6: Welcome, great to be with you, Peter.
26:27
Speaker 2: Not even a week ago you were in this party
26:30
Speaker 2: room and I think surprised a lot of people by
26:33
Speaker 2: the nature of your win, the emphatic endorsement. How much
26:38
Speaker 2: was that about what you were offering and how much
26:42
Speaker 2: was that I guess your colleagues coming to grips that
26:44
Speaker 2: if something didn't change, the party itself was at risk.
26:48
Speaker 4: Well, Peter, I think my colleagues understand well that we're
26:51
Speaker 4: at the worst position the Liberal Party has been since
26:54
Speaker 4: it was founded in nineteen forty four. They understood that
26:57
Speaker 4: when I was talking to them, and they knew we
26:59
Speaker 4: need a reset. We've got a bad labor government, a
27:03
Speaker 4: rotten labor government that's taking our standard of living backwards,
27:07
Speaker 4: that hasn't protected.
27:08
Speaker 6: Our way of life.
27:09
Speaker 4: People feel threatened, understandably by what's happening in our economy
27:14
Speaker 4: and more generally across our communities, and all the members
27:20
Speaker 4: of Parliament, the senators and members of the reps here
27:22
Speaker 4: feel that very keenly.
27:24
Speaker 6: So they want change.
27:26
Speaker 4: I think our members and supporters and those who have
27:29
Speaker 4: voted for the Liberal Party over time want to see
27:32
Speaker 4: a strong Liberal Party and our job now is to
27:35
Speaker 4: restore their confidence in us at a time where we
27:39
Speaker 4: haven't done what we need to do to be a
27:41
Speaker 4: successful political party.
27:43
Speaker 6: So a lot of this.
27:44
Speaker 2: Is also, isn't it liberal party admitting you admitting to
27:48
Speaker 2: your supporters, not just members, but to supporters, we've lost
27:51
Speaker 2: our way, We've got it wrong and there's a bit
27:54
Speaker 2: of contrition needed there.
27:55
Speaker 6: There absolutely is.
27:56
Speaker 4: I mean, we've clearly made mistakes over recent year. Is
28:00
Speaker 4: we made mistakes when we were in government and in opposition,
28:03
Speaker 4: and we've got to learn from those.
28:06
Speaker 6: We all make mistakes.
28:07
Speaker 4: The important thing is to learn from them and go
28:10
Speaker 4: forward from there. I think we have been too inclined
28:14
Speaker 4: to the politics of convenience and we need to get
28:16
Speaker 4: back to the politics of conviction, conviction for core liberal values,
28:20
Speaker 4: which I think are the core values of Australians.
28:23
Speaker 2: Key is getting those supporters back, you know, whether they're
28:26
Speaker 2: just parking their vote elsewhere predominantly as we've seen the
28:29
Speaker 2: shift in recent months with One Nation, or whether they've
28:33
Speaker 2: left you for good. The last thing you want to
28:35
Speaker 2: do is demonize the One Nation supporter because they in
28:40
Speaker 2: many cases are conservatives. How do you get them back?
28:44
Speaker 4: Well, I think the first thing is to recognize people
28:46
Speaker 4: have been drifting away from us for good reasons, because
28:49
Speaker 4: they're not seeing the Liberal Party that they know and believe.
28:53
Speaker 2: In, and they don't think they've been disloyal a lot
28:55
Speaker 2: of them.
28:56
Speaker 6: So the Liberal Party left me correct.
28:59
Speaker 4: They don't think they've been disloyal at all. So I
29:01
Speaker 4: think we've got to understand that, we've got to recognize
29:05
Speaker 4: that and our job, as I say, is to bring
29:08
Speaker 4: them back by going back to those core values, the
29:11
Speaker 4: politics of conviction, making sure we are absolutely relentlessly focused
29:15
Speaker 4: on restoring Australia's standard of living, protecting Australian's way of life,
29:21
Speaker 4: recognizing that this is the greatest nation on earth. But
29:24
Speaker 4: despite that, people feel right now that their life is
29:28
Speaker 4: tough and it needs that. People need a government that
29:32
Speaker 4: is going to do better. People are deeply concerned that
29:36
Speaker 4: they see politicians who no longer seem proud of this country,
29:39
Speaker 4: who want to talk down the incredible history of this country.
29:43
Speaker 4: It's a history with warts and all, but this is
29:45
Speaker 4: the greatest country on earth and we need to start
29:49
Speaker 4: talking that way and making sure that the direction of
29:52
Speaker 4: the country is in line with our extraordinary history as
29:55
Speaker 4: a great nation.
29:56
Speaker 8: The Member for Hume was born with a silver foot
29:59
Speaker 8: in his mouth, used to speaking.
30:01
Speaker 2: Labor will want to paint you with some sort of
30:04
Speaker 2: tough They inevitably do that with liberal leaders. You've had
30:08
Speaker 2: an experience obviously in business, a very successful career, but
30:13
Speaker 2: one of your big jobs was fixing businesses that had
30:17
Speaker 2: headed down the wrong way or were broken and got
30:20
Speaker 2: them back in a positive balance sheet and back employing people.
30:25
Speaker 2: Is that the right sort of skill set you reckon
30:27
Speaker 2: to not just fix the party but fix the country.
30:29
Speaker 4: Yeah?
30:29
Speaker 6: Absolutely so.
30:30
Speaker 4: I grew up on a farm south of south of Camera,
30:34
Speaker 4: a couple of hours south of Camera. Family farm. It's
30:36
Speaker 4: a small business. The kitchen table is both the family
30:42
Speaker 4: and the business.
30:42
Speaker 6: That's how it works.
30:44
Speaker 4: And we went through good times and tough times, as
30:48
Speaker 4: every small business does, droughts, locomodity prices, that erea where
30:52
Speaker 4: we were.
30:53
Speaker 6: Having to shoot sheep and all of that.
30:56
Speaker 4: And so I know how incredibly tough it is to
31:00
Speaker 4: to make a go of a business employ people.
31:04
Speaker 6: But we need people wanting to do that if we.
31:07
Speaker 4: Are going to have a country that can have rising
31:10
Speaker 4: living standards, that can pay for all the things that
31:13
Speaker 4: make our way of life possible. And I think that
31:16
Speaker 4: deep understanding of what makes an economy tick. But most importantly,
31:21
Speaker 4: what gives people opportunity and what can be the underpinning
31:25
Speaker 4: of aspiration. That is the key for me. That's what
31:28
Speaker 4: the Liberal Party is about. That's why I joined the
31:31
Speaker 4: Liberal Party. That's why I'm always excited about what the
31:33
Speaker 4: Liberal Party can deliver. But we have to get back
31:37
Speaker 4: to those routes.
31:38
Speaker 2: One of the things that shocked me in there's reports
31:40
Speaker 2: this week about the level of secrecy from the Albanesi government.
31:46
Speaker 2: How do you restore I guess trust that people have
31:50
Speaker 2: in their institutions. I think partly that's why people are
31:53
Speaker 2: not voting for either of the major parties. They think
31:56
Speaker 2: the whole shows up, they think the whole place is crook.
32:00
Speaker 2: How do you fix that.
32:00
Speaker 4: Problem, Well, the first thing you do is stop lying,
32:02
Speaker 4: which is what we're seeing from Albernizian charmers. They lie
32:05
Speaker 4: about the state of the economy. They try to tell
32:08
Speaker 4: Australians that it's all great. Well it's not. You've got
32:11
Speaker 4: to be upfront with people about what the starting point
32:14
Speaker 4: is and where they're at. And that level of transparency
32:19
Speaker 4: is not what we're seeing from this government. But you
32:22
Speaker 4: see time and time again how they want to hide
32:25
Speaker 4: things from people. They don't trust Australians. That's clear. This
32:29
Speaker 4: isis sprides issued, Peter. I mean seriously, they're not explaining
32:33
Speaker 4: to us whether they've issued these people passports. They've not
32:37
Speaker 4: explained to us whether they're trying to keep them out
32:40
Speaker 4: of the country with temporary exclusion orders or other through
32:43
Speaker 4: other means.
32:45
Speaker 6: They haven't been upfront with us about what.
32:48
Speaker 4: Kind of facilitation we're seeing from the government or government agencies.
32:52
Speaker 4: These are questions that are not being answered. Our third
32:54
Speaker 4: party is helping these people come back, who are being
32:57
Speaker 4: supported by the Labor Party with close links to the
33:00
Speaker 4: Labor Party. Well, there's good science that that's bad science
33:03
Speaker 4: that that's what's happening.
33:04
Speaker 6: This government needs to.
33:05
Speaker 4: Be upfront with the Australian people. If they're not protecting
33:08
Speaker 4: our way of life, then they need to be held
33:10
Speaker 4: to account.
33:11
Speaker 6: Stop hiding things. Be clear.
33:15
Speaker 4: Are we going to see this government keeping these people
33:19
Speaker 4: out because they do not share our core values?
33:21
Speaker 6: There's no doubt about that.
33:23
Speaker 2: Well, there's no doubt about that. The Prime Minister says
33:25
Speaker 2: we're not repatriam but his language is tricky. There's no
33:29
Speaker 2: greater gift that a government can give someone overseas other
33:33
Speaker 2: than an a valid Australian passport to return to this country.
33:37
Speaker 2: There's no embassy in Syria. Are clearly there are Australian
33:40
Speaker 2: individuals in these camps with passports on them that have
33:44
Speaker 2: been provided to these women. Surely Australians, particularly after Bondai,
33:50
Speaker 2: are right to say what the hell's going on?
33:53
Speaker 6: Yeah?
33:53
Speaker 4: No, that is absolutely right. People who do not believe
33:57
Speaker 4: in our core values, who don't accept our beliefs, should
34:01
Speaker 4: not be coming to this country.
34:03
Speaker 6: The door should be shut.
34:06
Speaker 4: People who want to bring the hayt and violence from
34:08
Speaker 4: another part of the world onto our shores should see.
34:12
Speaker 6: A shut door. We don't want them here.
34:14
Speaker 4: This government wants a bet each way on this.
34:17
Speaker 6: They need to.
34:17
Speaker 4: Fesce up, get clear and explain to the Australian people
34:20
Speaker 4: what's going on here.
34:22
Speaker 2: How long we've waited for that sort of clarity from
34:24
Speaker 2: a Liberal leader, all right after the break too many
34:27
Speaker 2: leaders before him have avoided a fight with labor on
34:30
Speaker 2: the culture wars.
34:31
Speaker 6: So William as.
34:32
Speaker 2: Taylor lead the charge and put a stop to left
34:34
Speaker 2: wing indoctrination. Lass I'll take you behind the scenes. We'll
34:38
Speaker 2: show you a bit more of the Liberal party room.
34:44
Speaker 2: Welcome back, let's get straight back into my second part
34:46
Speaker 2: of the interview with Angus Taylor, and that sneak peek
34:49
Speaker 2: behind the scenes of the Liberal Party room. I know
34:51
Speaker 2: you really see it. You see the left turn. Sure,
34:53
Speaker 2: but Taylor stood for his first press conference last Friday.
34:57
Speaker 3: Not the room. We'll show you that.
34:59
Speaker 4: Have a look.
35:07
Speaker 2: Is an extraordinary room, isn't it really the opposition part
35:10
Speaker 2: of room. This is the room you get into and
35:12
Speaker 2: you can't wait to get out of it and get
35:14
Speaker 2: back into government. But there's a few here that are
35:17
Speaker 2: are good role models as to how you do.
35:19
Speaker 4: It, isn't it There certainly are this one in particular
35:23
Speaker 4: in recent times. Of course, the most successful opposition leader
35:27
Speaker 4: we've seen. What an extraordinary election in twenty ten and
35:31
Speaker 4: you were there, and then of course that led to
35:33
Speaker 4: the victory in twenty third.
35:35
Speaker 6: I remember twenty.
35:36
Speaker 2: Ten that night no one expected no And that's your opportunity,
35:40
Speaker 2: I guess, you know, because we were in trouble then.
35:42
Speaker 2: Remember we've had Brenda Nelson, Malcolm term bull Tony of
35:45
Speaker 2: it all within that first term post Howard and I
35:49
Speaker 2: think how people were thinking we'll never see the like
35:52
Speaker 2: of government again for a generation. But it contains me quickly.
35:56
Speaker 4: No, it's what Tony do is just focus on those
35:58
Speaker 4: few things that he knew. You could mobilize our supporters
36:02
Speaker 4: but also connect with middle Australia, and you did.
36:04
Speaker 6: It so successful.
36:05
Speaker 8: I can inform you that the government of Australia has
36:10
Speaker 8: changed for just the same.
36:13
Speaker 2: But Morrison famously said, you know, Australians don't care about woke.
36:17
Speaker 2: I think they do care. I think they perhaps don't
36:21
Speaker 2: care as much as the algorithm might suggest, but they
36:25
Speaker 2: certainly care about the erosion of our values and our country.
36:28
Speaker 2: They care about what's in the curriculum that we teach
36:31
Speaker 2: our children. They care about the rights of women and
36:35
Speaker 2: girls to compete in sports just for women and girls.
36:39
Speaker 2: How much of an issue is that for you and
36:41
Speaker 2: your party room now?
36:42
Speaker 4: Well, I think it does go to this whole question
36:45
Speaker 4: of erosion of our way of life. People want to
36:48
Speaker 4: see it protected. If you take education, which she raised,
36:52
Speaker 4: people want to see their kids and grandkids get a
36:56
Speaker 4: good education. They don't want to see indoctrination in the classroom.
37:01
Speaker 2: Education was a game changer for you, wasn't it.
37:03
Speaker 4: On undred percent? So I grew up in a farming family.
37:07
Speaker 4: But the thing my family and my parents were always
37:10
Speaker 4: prepared to support and spend money on was our education.
37:14
Speaker 4: They knew that was the thing that we carried with
37:17
Speaker 4: us for the rest of our lives. That was incredibly
37:21
Speaker 4: valuable and important. It was important to them, and it's
37:23
Speaker 4: important to me because I know much of one way
37:28
Speaker 4: to get opportunity in life is through your education. But
37:33
Speaker 4: it shouldn't be in doctrination. It should never be in doctrination.
37:37
Speaker 2: Should you tackle the unions of this? Are you going
37:39
Speaker 2: to tackle the lab on this?
37:41
Speaker 6: You know?
37:42
Speaker 4: I think our education system at a school system and
37:47
Speaker 4: our tertiary system has been drifting on this.
37:49
Speaker 6: Over a long period of time.
37:51
Speaker 4: I've watched my four kids, who are in their twenties
37:54
Speaker 4: now go through school and then university, and I've seen
38:00
Speaker 4: this drift. I think Australians are deeply concerned about it.
38:03
Speaker 4: We do need to take it on and we do
38:05
Speaker 4: need to give Australians the assurance that their kids are.
38:08
Speaker 6: Going to be educated.
38:10
Speaker 4: They're going to be taught about our wonderful nation warts
38:13
Speaker 4: and all, but they should be celebrating our country as
38:15
Speaker 4: part of their education and they shouldn't be receiving in
38:18
Speaker 4: doctrination from a union that or unions that are pushing
38:22
Speaker 4: their own interests.
38:23
Speaker 2: Just on your family, you mentioned four kids. I also
38:27
Speaker 2: know you're one of four boys, and I also know
38:32
Speaker 2: you know you've got a female deputy. You've got a
38:34
Speaker 2: lot of women on your front bench. But you've also
38:36
Speaker 2: got a pretty fasty wife. We all got to know
38:38
Speaker 2: Louise during the Voice debate. She was one of the
38:41
Speaker 2: early sort of particularly in her case, a constitutional expert
38:46
Speaker 2: who spoke out strongly against the Voice. When I think
38:49
Speaker 2: a lot of the legal brethren we're very much in
38:52
Speaker 2: the yes camp. She is sounding board to you.
38:55
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely absolutely. I mean we met at university. We
39:00
Speaker 4: both came from very small country towns about the same
39:03
Speaker 4: size as each other. Actually hers was a bit smaller
39:05
Speaker 4: than ow. It's a couple hundred people a couple of
39:07
Speaker 4: hours west of Darboux, farming family who worked hard, but
39:11
Speaker 4: it's hard work farming in that area.
39:15
Speaker 6: And we met at university.
39:18
Speaker 4: We went through law school together, and I'm incredibly proud
39:21
Speaker 4: of what she's achieved with her life. She's passionate about
39:25
Speaker 4: our country. She's passionate about making sure our kids get
39:30
Speaker 4: the opportunities that we think they deserve.
39:32
Speaker 6: And all kids in this country.
39:35
Speaker 4: And she's fighting hard every single day for the same
39:39
Speaker 4: sorts of things as I am.
39:40
Speaker 2: Peter, you're not scared of intellectual women if you're going.
39:44
Speaker 4: To Louise matter and look, this was around me from
39:47
Speaker 4: a young age.
39:48
Speaker 6: You know, I had a very strong.
39:50
Speaker 2: Your mum was amazing and I lost her young man.
39:53
Speaker 4: I lost her young, but she had an imprint on
39:56
Speaker 4: all of us, all four of us boys. The impact
39:58
Speaker 4: she had on us was enormous. Her values, the way
40:02
Speaker 4: she taught values. She had a very strong view that
40:06
Speaker 4: family was essential. She had very strong Christian values. She
40:10
Speaker 4: was brought up in her family that believed in the
40:15
Speaker 4: power of private enterprise.
40:16
Speaker 5: No, we've got the leader of the opposition dropping that
40:20
Speaker 5: zero proposing maybe new coal, not new coal, We're not sure.
40:23
Speaker 5: Because the tailor made energy crisis in this country.
40:26
Speaker 2: The net zero monkeys off the Liberal Party's back. You've got,
40:30
Speaker 2: I guess, a lot of opportunity here. Yes, nuclear, Angus Taylor,
40:36
Speaker 2: but surely coal and gas has got to be still
40:39
Speaker 2: in the mix.
40:40
Speaker 6: Absolutely right. I think the starting point is to get
40:43
Speaker 6: that NED.
40:43
Speaker 4: Zero ideology out of our system. Chris bar coming back
40:46
Speaker 4: as a Platner Chris Bowen has been applying this and
40:50
Speaker 4: the result is electricity prices are up almost forty percent
40:54
Speaker 4: in the same time period where I was as Energy
40:57
Speaker 4: Minister was able to get them down by ten. So
41:02
Speaker 4: he has failed Australians because he's applied that ideology to
41:06
Speaker 4: move to where we need to get prices back to
41:09
Speaker 4: where they should be.
41:11
Speaker 6: We do need every fuel source available.
41:14
Speaker 4: There's no doubt Australia is blessed like almost no other
41:17
Speaker 4: country in the world. We have uranium, we have coal,
41:20
Speaker 4: we have gas, we do have renewables of course, and
41:23
Speaker 4: people putting solar cells on the rus at a rapid place.
41:28
Speaker 4: It's the mix that's going to get us the solution.
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Speaker 4: The problem with labor is they say, well I like that.
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Speaker 6: One, and I don't like that one and I don't
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Speaker 6: like that one.
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Speaker 4: You can't do that if your energy system's going to work.
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Speaker 4: So we should have all of these fuel sources in
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Speaker 4: the mix. We need to keep our coal fire power
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Speaker 4: stations for as long as necessary, un tool they can
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Speaker 4: be replaced, and that is incredibly important.
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Speaker 2: So you're not demonizing fossil fuels like some of your predecessors, that.
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Speaker 6: They are absolutely part of the mix.
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Speaker 4: The mix changes. All energy systems evolve over time. That's
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Speaker 4: inevitable because technologies change. But we cannot demonize those fuel
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Speaker 4: sources that are essential to getting prices down, and Bowen
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Speaker 4: demonizes them all the time, and he's failed Australians.
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Speaker 2: You've got a big job. Now, you've got a party
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Speaker 2: probably its lowest eban, it's eighty year history.
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Speaker 4: Why do it?
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Speaker 6: Angers?
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Speaker 2: Why is it so important that you took on this
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Speaker 2: job and are committed to turning things around?
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Speaker 6: Why do it?
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Speaker 4: Because Australia is worth fighting for. That's why. Because this
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Speaker 4: country is magnificent, but it's going in the wrong direction
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Speaker 4: and we need to fix that.
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Speaker 6: And for me, it's as simple as that.
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Speaker 2: What do you think? What do you think? I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's so important when you hear from leaders that they
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Speaker 2: get a chance to speak, you know, not that badgering
42:57
Speaker 2: sort of press conference style that most politics and media
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Speaker 2: is these days. So what do you think? Now it's
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Speaker 2: early days, it's only a week tomorrow. I'm seeing the
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Speaker 2: signs that i'd want to see that the Liberals are
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Speaker 2: serious about turning back the years and years of labor
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Speaker 2: light positions and importantly going for the jungular on what's
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Speaker 2: important to our country, but also holding what I regard
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Speaker 2: is the worst government in Australia's history to account, all
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Speaker 2: right after the break. More on those revelations are a
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Speaker 2: federal government that the federal government granted permanent residency the
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Speaker 2: daughter of a sanctioned Iranian military leader, and the latest
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Speaker 2: out of New York under their socialist Muslim mayor. It's
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Speaker 2: not pretty my panel upneck. Welcome back now to revelations
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Speaker 2: that the daughter of a sanctioned Iranian military leader who
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Speaker 2: acted as an advisor to the Aetola was granted permanent
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Speaker 2: residency in Australia. The young woman, the daughter of Iranian
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Speaker 2: Major General Safavi, was reportedly granted as student visa in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four and that's now turned into permanent residency.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now to discuss this and more. Scanni's contributed Koshergada,
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Speaker 2: the former Labor MP Michael Danby Michael, I use the
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Speaker 2: term unbelievable all the time about this Labor government when
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Speaker 2: it comes to national security. But I tell you what,
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Speaker 2: how on Earth I find it unbelievable again? But someone
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Speaker 2: linked so closely to the Iranian regime gets permanent residency
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Speaker 2: here in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Firstly, Peter, I can't the opportunity passed. Congratulate you and
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Speaker 1: the network for having that. David Craig, serious man looking
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Speaker 1: at serious issues about the Passport Act Section fourteen. I
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Speaker 1: hope all those dummies in the press gallery start to
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Speaker 1: follow what's actually going on and what Australian law is.
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Speaker 1: How can this person be admitted to Australia, the Iranian
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Speaker 1: general's daughter under the Magnitsky Act, which myself and my
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Speaker 1: late friend Kimberly Kitchen really push through Federal Parliament. This
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Speaker 1: kind of person should be excluded as the family of
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Speaker 1: human rights violators. Unless, Peter, unless this general is the
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Speaker 1: Western asset in the Iranian regime that we're hoping to
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Speaker 1: use after the kinetic fight that's about.
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Speaker 2: To happen, Well, well we'll see. I think it's more
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Speaker 2: likely a stuff up than a master play from the
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Speaker 2: government in Canberry, if our current form is any guide, Coach,
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Speaker 2: just on that point, you know, where are we up
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Speaker 2: to in the whole US Iranian negotiations and what do
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Speaker 2: you think is likely to happen here?
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Speaker 13: I mean, all the obvious symbols that we're seeing signals
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Speaker 13: from the fleet moving in the words that have come
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Speaker 13: out of President Trump's mouth and all that it seems
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Speaker 13: to suggest something is imminent. We talk about this all
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Speaker 13: the time, though, that he is very well aware of
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Speaker 13: the beast and the electorate, being very of that in
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Speaker 13: the US, and he loves to sort of keep people guessing.
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Speaker 13: So you never know with the President, trom but it
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Speaker 13: looks like it's closer than it's ever been to date
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Speaker 13: under his administration, for sure.
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Speaker 2: Right, let's go to the allegations regarding a Chinese spy
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Speaker 2: in Canberra, Michael. Not just one, now three have been
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Speaker 2: charged under the Foreign Interference Active that they're all Chinese nationals.
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Speaker 2: This is a huge concern.
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Speaker 1: Beijing, through its embassy, is able to manipulate Chinese nationals
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Speaker 1: living in Australia by threatening their families at home. And
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Speaker 1: what seems aren't important to us, like spying on Tibetan
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Speaker 1: or Buddhist or Taiwanese organizations, is very important for them
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Speaker 1: because it helps keep the internal consensus at home, which
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Speaker 1: is something that's very important, Peter, because it looks like
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Speaker 1: there's a split between Ji, the political leadership, and the
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Speaker 1: Chinese military. That's a developing story, but controlling these small
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Speaker 1: groups is vitally important for the communist ration.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to New York. They're certainly getting a taste
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Speaker 2: of things to come from their Democratic Socialist Muslim mayor
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Speaker 2: Mam Darmi's proposing and yet ten percent property tax hike
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Speaker 2: has got a multi billion dollar hole of his budget already,
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Speaker 2: but is pressuring the states to hit millionaires and corporations
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Speaker 2: but kosher. This point is interesting. He got elected promising
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Speaker 2: to tax the rich, but all along he knew we
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Speaker 2: couldn't do this as mayor, and he wasn't within his jurisdiction.
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Speaker 2: So this is about class war games as much as
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Speaker 2: anything else.
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Speaker 13: It is, and the beast that will suffer the most
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Speaker 13: from this as not really his voting beast, or releast
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Speaker 13: the majority of them aren't. This is the only tax
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Speaker 13: category that he has unilateral authority as mayor of New
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Speaker 13: York City to hate property taxes, and that's why he's
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Speaker 13: doing it. The Mayor of New York City does not
47:57
Speaker 13: have authority on sales tax or income tax or any
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Speaker 13: other categories. And so this is the last straw, the
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Speaker 13: last resort, I think is how he termed it. Also,
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Speaker 13: there is statutory obligation for the mayor of New York
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Speaker 13: to balance the budget since the nineteen seventies after a
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Speaker 13: big financial crisis that happened there. But there's no cap
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Speaker 13: on the revenue, so of course the costs go up
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Speaker 13: and up, and then they try to tax more, and
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Speaker 13: this is sort of the only lever he has. But
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Speaker 13: as we know, what it's going to keep doing is
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Speaker 13: New Yorkers eventually leave, and it's a very mobile country.
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Speaker 13: They don't leave for other parts in the state of
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Speaker 13: New York. They leave for other cities and other states,
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Speaker 13: and that will hurt the state wide revenue base. And
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Speaker 13: that's why the governor exactly Florida and other places. So
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Speaker 13: the governor's actually even pushing back on him, even though
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Speaker 13: she's quite left wing herself. This is going a bridge
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Speaker 13: too far, so we shall see how that all unfolds.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Michael, they'll just walk, money will walk.
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Speaker 1: Well. I had a family from friends from New York.
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Speaker 1: He was freezing a particularly odious winter in the Big Apple.
48:55
Speaker 1: And you've got the more attractive climate down south, and
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Speaker 1: file is tech and less crazy people are running big city,
49:04
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you move to Austin, or Memphis, or
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Speaker 1: or Florida. Florida beautiful. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I was in Florida over Christmas and not much crime.
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Speaker 2: I could not see any graffiti on a highway. I
49:17
Speaker 2: was on a highway for beut an hour and a half,
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Speaker 2: no discernible graffiti. I came back to Australia and it
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Speaker 2: felt like it was Mogadishu in Melbourne. But that's another story.
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris back in Australia. Here's a picture of her
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Speaker 2: with Julie Bishop yesterday in Canberra. As she must need
49:32
Speaker 2: the money and I'll tell you what, we must be
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Speaker 2: desperate to have her back here.
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Speaker 3: This was a talk fest.
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Speaker 2: I suspect it's probably one of those women's talkfest. But
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Speaker 2: Kosher got to say, she's a giant, big fat loser.
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Speaker 2: It's embarrassing that she's on the female leadership circuit.
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Speaker 13: It really is, I think second only to this institute
49:54
Speaker 13: in Australia. As you point out, there are certainly better
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Speaker 13: and more qualified women out there that they could have
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Speaker 13: brought in and here years again for a round two.
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Speaker 13: It's becoming a little bit of a joke.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon they'd be better to get some old
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Speaker 2: speeches from Margaret Thatcher and play them out to a
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Speaker 2: crowd of women and show what it's like when women
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Speaker 2: are there without a quota and they can win. All right,
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Speaker 2: I'll leave it there both, Thank you very much for
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Speaker 2: your company. That's it for me. Have a wonderful weekend.
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Speaker 2: We'll see you Monday. Is Andrew Boll