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Pieces of Thanksgiving · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 3: Ever I'm C.
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  Speaker 4: Thomas Howell and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 8: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 2: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 8: What's up and welcome to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 9: I am Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I am Alan. I'm Lucy. I'm Fred.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Greg.
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  Speaker 10: I'm Beau. I'm Marlena.
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  Speaker 6: And we are coming to you live via digital recording
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  Speaker 6: from Fred's house. And we have a special guest. Fred,
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  Speaker 6: would you like to introduce our very special guest?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought Lucy was going to say, I'm Lucy
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  Speaker 7: and this is Joe.
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  Speaker 11: I'm Lucy and I'm with puppy Joe.
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  Speaker 6: Who is now chewing on the cord. Fred has acquired
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  Speaker 6: a new puppy who is also wearing a sweater. I
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  Speaker 6: guess we're going to have to take a photo and
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  Speaker 6: post it now.
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  Speaker 9: The Joe episode.
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  Speaker 12: The sweater is as of today. Nice.
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  Speaker 6: You're blaming your wife for this.
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  Speaker 12: We have achieved a sweatered dog.
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  Speaker 6: You're one of those people.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, we're two of those people.
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  Speaker 6: You still have time to pretend like you don't know
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  Speaker 6: your wife.
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  Speaker 8: Tell me, why does somebody sweater a dog? I've always wondered.
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  Speaker 8: She gets.
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  Speaker 10: He gets cold.
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  Speaker 6: You're doing it now.
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  Speaker 10: When we go outside.
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  Speaker 6: Lucy's going to explode with the cuteness of this animal.
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  Speaker 9: Well, how do you know that he gets cold, though?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, how does.
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  Speaker 7: The puppy doesn't like to go outside, and sometimes.
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  Speaker 12: He will pee when he shouldn't, but it's because he's little.
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  Speaker 12: He doesn't have a lot of body.
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  Speaker 9: It sounds a lot like the same way you'd describe
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  Speaker 9: a human toddler, except the opposite on the sweater factor,
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  Speaker 9: like they don't want to go outside and be seen
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  Speaker 9: if they're wearing a sweater.
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  Speaker 10: Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 9: But the peeing.
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  Speaker 12: That is the sweater of shame, I believe.
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  Speaker 6: I thought that's what it was. I thought you put
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  Speaker 6: the sweater on to just kind of bring... The dog
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  Speaker 6: had too much attitude. I got to dampen it.
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  Speaker 12: That's what it would have been, but Lynn put the
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  Speaker 12: sweater on.
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  Speaker 9: She has different motives.
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  Speaker 13: Yes.
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  Speaker 14: So you put it on and say, how dare you?
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  Speaker 6: You're working against each other and playing the dog somehow
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  Speaker 6: in this whole situation.
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  Speaker 3: I just know that my daughter has a storybook about
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  Speaker 3: a dog who gets a sweater and just tries to
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  Speaker 3: do everything he can to remove it. He does so,
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  Speaker 3: and then.
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  Speaker 8: Everybody's all sad.
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  Speaker 10: It's caught on his tooth.
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  Speaker 3: Except for the dog, because he just didn't have the sweater.
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  Speaker 8: And he's chewing on it here.
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  Speaker 9: Which book is that? That's like the G. Gordon Liddy biography,
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  Speaker 9: isn't it?
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  Speaker 10: Something like that.
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  Speaker 9: Then the dog eats the rat as soon as it's
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  Speaker 9: out of the sweater.
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  Speaker 11: Do you want me to get it from this thing, though?
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  Speaker 12: I think you should.
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  Speaker 9: Welcome to Movie Mountdown, ladies and gentlemen. We're all taking
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  Speaker 9: photos of a puppy.
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  Speaker 6: It's an adorable puppy.
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  Speaker 8: It's better than cats.
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  Speaker 15: That's true.
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  Speaker 6: Cats are shady.
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  Speaker 9: That's why I like cats, because they are shady.
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  Speaker 6: You can't trust them.
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  Speaker 12: They're trouble.
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  Speaker 9: I know, that's why I like a pet that I distrust.
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  Speaker 8: I like them both.
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  Speaker 6: Alright, so all puppies aside, this is our return to
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  Speaker 6: the Thanksgiving episode. We have not done one in at
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  Speaker 6: least two years, we'll say, right?
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  Speaker 9: I think it has been two.
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  Speaker 13: Has it really been two years since we had Turkzilla?
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  Speaker 9: And that's what I'm trying to remember, because it's been
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  Speaker 9: two years since the official yeti spaghetti show so i'm
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  Speaker 9: trying to remember if we did turkzilla after we did
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  Speaker 9: yeti spaghetti or maybe it's been three years since we did.
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  Speaker 6: Turkzilla no they were they were almost back to back
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  Speaker 6: okay then it's been two years lately it's been yeah
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  Speaker 6: it's been about two years okay.
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  Speaker 9: It's been two years since turkzilla.
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  Speaker 6: And that was technically the bride of turkzilla because the
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  Speaker 6: original turkzilla greg you you constructed that monstrosity and.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, the original Turkzilla. That was a little bit more.
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  Speaker 6: That was like four years ago.
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  Speaker 8: Epic, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Because we've kind of skipped a year every time because
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  Speaker 6: it's so exhausting. I was going to say, I think
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  Speaker 6: the bride of Turkzilla has finally passed through my system.
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  Speaker 9: It's probably been two.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, I think it's the forming the turkey meat into
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  Speaker 14: a cake layer that causes that.
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  Speaker 9: It also does that meat paste.
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  Speaker 10: That's the Zillow part. That is the Zillow part, yes.
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  Speaker 13: It may leave your stomach, but it never leaves your.
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  Speaker 6: Heart, Greg.
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  Speaker 13: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So it has also been about that damn long since
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  Speaker 6: we've all been together. This is a family reunion. We
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  Speaker 6: are a dysfunctional meltdown family. So do we need to
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  Speaker 6: catch up? Is that what we decided? We need a...
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  Speaker 6: Control yourself, Joe. You're a new member of this family.
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  Speaker 6: You watch it.
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  Speaker 9: You're still in the probation area.
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  Speaker 11: I feel like we brought in Cousin Oliver. Is that
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  Speaker 11: what's happening? Like the show wasn't doing well in the ratings.
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  Speaker 11: We're like, let's add a puppy.
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  Speaker 6: That's what I was saying earlier. I was like, that's
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  Speaker 6: why Angel, the previous dog who is now probably very
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  Speaker 6: upset because the sitcoms always upgrade and get a new cuter,
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  Speaker 6: smaller child.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: So poor Angel. We still like Angel.
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  Speaker 7: Angel was really cool about it. like got along so
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  Speaker 7: far surprise well at first and then we made the
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  Speaker 7: decision okay we can have a puppy because angel's cool
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  Speaker 7: with it and then she started going just lurch like
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  Speaker 7: it's a noise we've never heard her make before and
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  Speaker 7: also she was never interested in dog toys but now
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  Speaker 7: she's all over joe's dog toys.
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  Speaker 9: Because you never bought her anything yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I guess I think she's kind of reliving her childhood
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  Speaker 7: a little bit.
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  Speaker 12: Like the puppy has taken her back.
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  Speaker 6: It does kind of happen. They pick up on each
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  Speaker 6: other's weird little vibes. Anything else? Anybody watch anything since
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  Speaker 6: last time we were sitting here? Let's do a rundown
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  Speaker 6: of the last couple of years for everyone.
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  Speaker 9: Go!
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  Speaker 7: I have a little Thanksgiving thing. I never watched Twin Peaks.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you've been dead up until now, I suppose.
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  Speaker 9: Never watched it.
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  Speaker 7: It was in, like, I guess it was on the
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  Speaker 7: period when I didn't watch TV or something. But I
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  Speaker 7: really liked David Lynch when I first started seeing this stuff.
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  Speaker 7: And then I got into this thing where I just, like,
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  Speaker 7: couldn't stand him. He just, I felt like he was, like,
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  Speaker 7: jerking me around.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I'd almost say that's, like, post-Straight Story. Like,
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  Speaker 9: Mulholland Drive and the Empire, I think it's just him
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  Speaker 9: almost doing a parody of Like, he figured out what
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  Speaker 9: his own formula was, and once he did that, it
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  Speaker 9: became disingenuine, I felt like.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I would say it's like, oh, he got
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  Speaker 6: away from the stories that he was telling and just
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  Speaker 6: started doing this weird stuff. But when you start with
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  Speaker 6: a racer, like, you can't, he's just coming full circle again.
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  Speaker 6: It's just, now it may be a little more self-aware, though.
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  Speaker 7: But I really, I've only watched a few of the
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  Speaker 7: Twin Peaks, and I really enjoy them, and it sort
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  Speaker 7: of takes me back to like the early Lynch when
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  Speaker 7: I really appreciated him. And I just think I was
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  Speaker 7: maybe looking at it wrong. Like, he's had some failures,
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  Speaker 7: but I don't think he set out to fail.
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  Speaker 12: I don't know why I was holding it against him.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's pretty effective storytelling, and the only thing
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  Speaker 9: is once you figure or find out Laura Palmer's killer,
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  Speaker 9: it should have just stopped there because it just slows
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  Speaker 9: almost to a complete halt, and then there's this subplot
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  Speaker 9: with these Canadian... The James side story?
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  Speaker 16: Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: That's painful.
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  Speaker 9: And then it starts to get kind of interesting when
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  Speaker 9: you get into the sort of weird serial killer. The
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  Speaker 9: big killer at the end. is his name it's escaping
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  Speaker 9: me but it starts to get a little bit interesting
• 9:21
  Speaker 9: near the end of the second season but by then
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  Speaker 9: it was just they realized they were not going to
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  Speaker 9: have a third season so just it gets wrapped in
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  Speaker 9: a really sloppy last episode and he just screws everybody
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  Speaker 9: over with.
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  Speaker 11: That last episode But Lynch was like pretty much out
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  Speaker 11: by that point anyway, right? We can't actually blame him.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, even if you go through, it's not
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  Speaker 6: like he was directing every episode anyway. But what's weird
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  Speaker 6: is you can tell, like once you get in it
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  Speaker 6: and you see that name pop up at the beginning,
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  Speaker 6: you realize, I mean, it is a Lynch episode the
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  Speaker 6: entire way through where like some of the other ones
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  Speaker 6: just have like normal TV directors or like occasionally a
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  Speaker 6: weird celebrity.
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  Speaker 9: Windham Earl. There we go, Windham Earl. And it was...
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  Speaker 9: In there somewhere.
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  Speaker 6: The Windham Earl like.
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  Speaker 9: It's interesting. It starts picking up. I mean, it starts
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  Speaker 9: to get interesting again, but never as engrossing as it
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  Speaker 9: was in the first season. First season is some of
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  Speaker 9: his most solid work, you know, at least in the
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  Speaker 9: way of whether he directed the episode or just was influencing,
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  Speaker 9: you know, what was done with it.
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  Speaker 6: But it does feel like a nice culmination of all
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  Speaker 6: he had already built up in the film world. He,
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  Speaker 6: you see so much of what he's into kind of
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  Speaker 6: play out, but almost play out in a more well
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  Speaker 6: pieced together version. Cause he knew it had to go
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  Speaker 6: out on television. So it's still weird and Lynch, but
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  Speaker 6: it's probably not, it's probably them keeping him on just
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  Speaker 6: enough of a leash to be like, okay, look, this
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  Speaker 6: is primetime TV. We, we need to have a little
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  Speaker 6: bit of a storyline, you know, let's keep it in check.
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  Speaker 6: So he probably needs that in general, not having that now,
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  Speaker 6: maybe why these last several movies are, Off the rails.
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  Speaker 11: I think that was the problem with Inland Empire. It
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  Speaker 11: was just like, oh, now it's digital video. We can
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  Speaker 11: just film for days.
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  Speaker 9: Well, see, and that too, she really knows how to
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  Speaker 9: utilize 35. I mean, even when Lost Highway is, you know,
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  Speaker 9: getting very surreal in and of itself, it still looks beautiful. Even,
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  Speaker 9: I think Mulholland.
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  Speaker 8: Was still filmed on film, wasn't it?
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  Speaker 17: It was.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, even then, it's like, I'm not a
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  Speaker 9: huge fan of the movie, but it looks great.
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  Speaker 10: But I mean.
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  Speaker 9: Inland Empire, it just looks cheap. And then you throw
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  Speaker 9: in the fact that it's like, what, three and a
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  Speaker 9: half hours long. It's just, it comes across as very rambling.
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  Speaker 9: So I'd still like to see him do something different
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  Speaker 9: in the way of just, you know, just make another
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  Speaker 9: film again, I should say. But I don't know what
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  Speaker 9: exactly he is working on. There's all those rumors that
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  Speaker 9: he's going to go back to doing Twin Peaks again
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  Speaker 9: that was floating around on the internet.
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  Speaker 3: For a while.
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  Speaker 11: I think it's for sure happening.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's confirmed.
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  Speaker 9: But I'm not a huge fan of when series go
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  Speaker 9: back and just, you know, are revisited because it just
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  Speaker 9: feels like it's either retreading familiar waters or it's just
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  Speaker 9: it comes across as repetitive. It's no different than everyone's
• 12:09
  Speaker 9: excited about, you know, Raimi and Campbell doing an Evil
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  Speaker 9: Dead project again. I'm like, why don't they just do
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  Speaker 9: something unique? but the two of them paired together. I
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  Speaker 9: don't see why they have to go back and make
• 12:19
  Speaker 9: it Evil Dead and those characters. And I love the
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  Speaker 9: Evil Dead movies. I just don't see the need in
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  Speaker 9: just essentially, it almost feels like both the actors and
• 12:29
  Speaker 9: the directors just sort of pigeonholed themselves into it. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 9: this is what made us successful, so we can't get
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  Speaker 9: anyone else to support these other ideas we've got. Let's
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  Speaker 9: just go back to the familiar again.
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  Speaker 11: But Twin Peaks are sort of that built-in promise of
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  Speaker 11: 25 years from.
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  Speaker 9: Now, right? I suppose. I mean, I'd be curious to
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  Speaker 9: see what they do. I mean, I will watch it
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  Speaker 9: because I'd just be curious, but I don't know. I'm
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  Speaker 9: skeptical going in.
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  Speaker 13: I just remember I rented Lost Highway when I was
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  Speaker 13: 12 years old and watched it, and I didn't understand it,
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  Speaker 13: and that really deeply affected me. Like, I thought, I
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  Speaker 13: was like, I must be an idiot.
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  Speaker 11: I don't get this.
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  Speaker 13: Like, it really, really affected me for years, and then
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  Speaker 13: I just realized, like, it's a David Lynch movie. Like,
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  Speaker 13: that's just how it goes, but I thought I was like,
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  Speaker 13: I don't know, incapable of understanding movie plots or something
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  Speaker 13: because of that for a really long time.
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  Speaker 6: I think I'm okay with the idea of The Lynch.
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  Speaker 6: And it's funny because they both kind of hit in
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  Speaker 6: that same month or so of The Lynch. Again, it's
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  Speaker 6: like I was saying, now that there's these new avenues
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  Speaker 6: and everybody has a TV network to work with and
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  Speaker 6: now you can do stuff online and you don't need
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  Speaker 6: anybody's approval. So in a way, I'm interested in both
• 13:39
  Speaker 6: of those, the Sam Raimi and Lynch, just because both
• 13:42
  Speaker 6: of them are attached to if it was just being
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  Speaker 6: pawned off on somebody else, but the fact that both original,
• 13:48
  Speaker 6: you know, filmmakers are coming back to be involved in
• 13:50
  Speaker 6: it and because they can kind of like, I know
• 13:53
  Speaker 6: the one is stars. I'm not sure where's the twin
• 13:55
  Speaker 6: peaks would turn it up, but like they do kind
• 13:57
  Speaker 6: of have free reign to do whatever they want. They,
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  Speaker 6: that's the one beauty of like those other networks is
• 14:03
  Speaker 6: they really don't come down on you as far as content.
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  Speaker 6: They're like, you know, if you're the visionary, go make
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  Speaker 6: your thing and we're just going to back it and
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  Speaker 6: put it out there. So, I'm interested to see. Again,
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  Speaker 6: it might go off the rails in both cases, but
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  Speaker 6: I'm way more interested to see because it's not network television,
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  Speaker 6: it's not being forced into that, and because both of
• 14:23
  Speaker 6: the original filmmakers are coming back to at least be
• 14:27
  Speaker 6: at the helm of what it does.
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  Speaker 9: We're sort of an extension in the way of surreal films,
• 14:31
  Speaker 9: and going back to the topic of if we've seen
• 14:32
  Speaker 9: anything lately, just last week I saw Holy Motors for
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  Speaker 9: the first time. Anyone else seen that? It's a lot
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  Speaker 9: of fun. I wouldn't say it's Lynchian as much as
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  Speaker 9: it reminds me more of Jean-Pierre Jeunet in the way
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  Speaker 9: of just, it is surreal, but it's a very silly movie.
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  Speaker 9: sort of surreal. And it's very beautiful to look at too.
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  Speaker 6: I like all of the segments, but it's funny. The
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  Speaker 6: two that are the most impressive and always stand out
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  Speaker 6: when I think about it are both the musical segments.
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  Speaker 6: It could have just been a musical and it might've
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: been way more entertaining. Like I like the other ones,
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  Speaker 6: but like when I think about it, I think about
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  Speaker 6: the intermission is amazing. And like the big musical number
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  Speaker 6: at the end. And it's like, those are really the
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  Speaker 6: two moments that stick out and the rest, is kind
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  Speaker 6: of interesting.
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  Speaker 9: The Monsieur Merred stuff I found really entertaining. And he,
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  Speaker 9: I'm trying to think, Carol is the name of the director,
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  Speaker 9: isn't it?
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  Speaker 10: Is that his last name?
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  Speaker 9: I'd seen that character because he'd used it in, um, Tokyo.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if you saw that at, um, Michelle
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  Speaker 9: Gondry and, um, it's, um, oh, I can't think of
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  Speaker 9: the Chinese director.
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  Speaker 15: It's Korean.
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  Speaker 9: Or is it Korean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And did one
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  Speaker 9: of the segments in Three Extremes, too, right?
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  Speaker 8: I don't believe... I think so.
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  Speaker 9: It's like Bong Joon-ho or something along that line. I
• 15:55
  Speaker 9: know I'm probably getting the name wrong, but... He just
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: put out something. But I remember just liking that character
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  Speaker 9: in Tokyo, and then when I saw it pop up
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  Speaker 9: in the Holy Motors trailers, I was like, I like
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  Speaker 9: the fact that you've got this surreal character that he
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  Speaker 9: just reprises. in these different films. But I think, to me,
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  Speaker 9: the most entertaining segment was the green screen sequence. That,
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  Speaker 9: to me, was just the one where I found it
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  Speaker 9: the most outlandish. And that's the funny thing, too, is
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  Speaker 9: you're watching these two characters on the screen pretending to
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  Speaker 9: be characters for people who play video games who don't
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  Speaker 9: want to actually... do all these interactions in real life
• 16:44
  Speaker 9: and so they go and play video games to have
• 16:46
  Speaker 9: these you know simulated interactions but it still takes real
• 16:50
  Speaker 9: interactions with people to make the simulated interaction like it's
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: just working on so many levels and you know with
• 16:56
  Speaker 9: the the contrast that they shot it with all the
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: different points that the computer is going to recognize just
• 17:01
  Speaker 9: sort of blend where it's just this movement of um
• 17:05
  Speaker 9: just dots of light you know like this constellation in
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: the sky just collapsing and unfolding on itself and then
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: finally it just pans over and you see the utterly
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: surreal computer generated characters that are having sex on the
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: screen it's just like what have i booked myself into
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: and it's in like the first 10 minutes too so
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: at that point i was hooked with it i mean
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: it just i felt like it was a movie that
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: was just having fun for the sake of having fun
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: and just not worried about a coherent plot but rather
• 17:35
  Speaker 9: just entertaining the audience. And I think that's something that
• 17:37
  Speaker 9: gets overlooked a lot. Everybody, you know, is wanting something
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: to be, you know, allegorical or it has to make
• 17:43
  Speaker 9: some sort of statement. It's like, well, no, movies, they
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: can just be just entertaining or they can just be
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: beautiful to look at. That should be a simple thing
• 17:50
  Speaker 9: that we just, I think is taken for granted a
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: lot anymore.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: I really like that. It didn't over explain any of
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: that either. It's like, we just drive from one segment
• 18:00
  Speaker 6: to the next and it doesn't feel like it has
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: to tell the separate story and like wrap it up
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: like it's like it's each individual little separate movies it's
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: the fact that it all just flows into this one
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: sort of through line but not enough to make it
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: really the.
• 18:15
  Speaker 9: Only through line is that this guy has some sort
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: of like specialized job that is going out and you
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: know embracing these roles and But for what purpose? You
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: never really know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I kind of like that it doesn't over-explain
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: any of that. It's just sort of left for you
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: to do what you want with it. Have we caught
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: up all the.
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: Way to the last year and a half?
• 18:36
  Speaker 12: You nodded, Alan.
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: You've seen it?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 18:38
  Speaker 9: What was your take on it?
• 18:39
  Speaker 8: I really liked it.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm missing something because I don't remember
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: the musical parts and everything.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: There were two. There was like the intermission where it's
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: a long tracking shot. They're playing an accordion through a
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: church like he is, and he just starts picking up
• 18:53
  Speaker 9: more and more musicians as it goes through. And then
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: there's like the sort of ballad at the end.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's one of the Minots, isn't it? Is it
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: Kylie or the other one? I can't remember. But like
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: she comes in and like that's her big scene. And
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: like it's actually a pretty good scene even before that,
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: but it just launches into what is, Again, each one
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: is sort of like a segment from a different genre anyway.
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: So it's like that becomes the big, you know, Hollywood
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: musical segment. And it's very, yeah, it's very operatic. And
• 19:24
  Speaker 6: I just really responded to that one. But yeah, that's,
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Those were just the standouts that I remember.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: My favorite segment, I think, was actually when he was
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the really crazy homeless guy with the long fingernails.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the Monsieur Merid sort of sequences. What everyone,
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: because as he's walking through the cemetery, everyone's like... It's
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: Monsieur Merde. I like the idea that this weird character
• 19:46
  Speaker 9: that comes out of the sewers establishes Mr.
• 19:49
  Speaker 13: Shit.
• 19:49
  Speaker 9: In this world. Everyone already automatically sees him and they
• 19:53
  Speaker 9: know him. It's like a Bigfoot sighting. So it's not
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: like it's a one-time thing. You're just given the sense
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: that he does this regularly and you're just seeing one
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: of those moments to where he does it.
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: Interesting.
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: And if you can kind of consider like the makeup
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: and in like the physical transformation, like the way he's
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: walking as that character versus doing the very elaborate acrobatics
• 20:17
  Speaker 9: when he's in the green screen room. I mean, just
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: the physical transformations he does are as impressive, if not
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: more so than like, you know, the makeups that he's wearing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: And the weird like limousine idea that takes us through,
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: but then like the, It'll veer off and do the
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: thing with the daughter. So we do get these weird
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: little segments and all these different almost genres of movie.
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: I kind of want to watch It with Cosmopolis. I
• 20:42
  Speaker 9: think the two would make a very weird juxtaposition together.
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: Just two films to where the character spends so much
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: time in a limo.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Let the karma linger on your perfect skin Your widow's
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: peak and your lucky grin And the bluest eyes I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: know As you turn to go Let there be a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: record of your gorgeous voice The turn of phrase would
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: fill my days with joy Something like being singing soft
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and low As you turn.
• 21:25
  Speaker 12: To go.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I know I'm not supposed to say I'm sorry I
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: know you've had more loves than murder hurry.
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: But you know you're.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: The star of my life story.
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: And I'm so sorry.
• 22:02
  Speaker 18: Now, before the next show starts, let's enjoy an intermission.
• 22:07
  Speaker 18: You'll find our snack bar chock full of good things
• 22:09
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• 22:15
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• 22:20
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• 22:24
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• 22:27
  Speaker 18: enjoyment of the show.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: Hey kids, just a quick reminder. There are some other
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: holidays coming up in the near future. Now, I won't
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: say what they are because I don't mention those holidays
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: until after we get through Thanksgiving.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: That's just how I operate.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: But sometimes you do have to plan ahead and, you know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: try to get.
• 22:45
  Speaker 10: Gifts for other people.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: So what I will say is if you go to tweakedaudio.com
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• 23:00
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• 23:03
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• 23:08
  Speaker 6: for whatever those things are.
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: I want you to work with this guy.
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: The parade may depend on it.
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: From the moment they met.
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: The parade isn't about money.
• 23:17
  Speaker 19: They felt they were perfectly wrong for each other.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: We don't have to like each other, but we do
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: have to work together.
• 23:23
  Speaker 20: So obnoxious.
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: He sleeps really hard.
• 23:25
  Speaker 12: But love.
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: You're dating him?
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: This is a business slash work thing.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: Sounds like a date to me.
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: Marches to a heartbeat all its own.
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: Live in the moment and see what happens.
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: Love at the Thanksgiving Day Parade.
• 23:40
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• 23:46
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• 23:49
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• 23:52
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• 23:54
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• 23:58
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• 24:02
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• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Leah Thompson.
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: You're listening to Movie Meltdown.
• 24:25
  Speaker 19: An evil outlier that you can imagine is about to
• 24:28
  Speaker 19: engulf the earth.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: Oh, no, no.
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: We have fights here all the time.
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: Can you just sit there?
• 24:40
  Speaker 21: She took my eggs.
• 24:42
  Speaker 15: It's time for Sofa Theater.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes, of course, and cranberry sauce, which
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: is easy, I mean, Let's open the can.
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, sweet.
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: I like it from the can.
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: Nobody likes it from the can.
• 25:02
  Speaker 21: It's just completely selfish of her asking us to come all.
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: The way to New York.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: Some families do whatever it takes to remain close.
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: They're probably not even going to come.
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: Okay, everybody, let's move it!
• 25:15
  Speaker 7: And then there are families who know better.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: We're going to have a very nice time.
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: You don't actually believe that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: It's possible I think yes no no does anybody have
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a stove by.
• 25:30
  Speaker 22: Tomorrow try Wayne in 5D he's got a new stove are.
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: You Wayne Wayne with a new stove.
• 25:40
  Speaker 13: What makes her think she can cook all of a
• 25:42
  Speaker 13: sudden I don't remember her ever being in the kitchen
• 25:46
  Speaker 13: she's met this new guy.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: Bobby apparently this guy Bobby reminds her of me this
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: is a nice thing you're doing you must have a
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: special relationship we're.
• 25:59
  Speaker 21: Very close for days i've been trying to think of
• 26:01
  Speaker 21: nice april memories and i can only come up with
• 26:04
  Speaker 21: one she was just gazing out the window and she
• 26:06
  Speaker 21: said oh mother don't you just love every day that
• 26:10
  Speaker 21: was me what.
• 26:11
  Speaker 7: About the crayon drawing she did of the main flower
• 26:14
  Speaker 7: the one you had framed that was me too cut
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: it out you don't get along do you not at
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: all never.
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: Have Just off the top of my head, I have one.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: She was sleeping.
• 26:28
  Speaker 12: She was wearing a pink nightgown.
• 26:30
  Speaker 15: That was me.
• 26:34
  Speaker 17: Kidding.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: You've never been in love.
• 26:36
  Speaker 21: Yeah, well, it does things to you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: Once there was one day when everybody seemed to know
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: they needed each other.
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: Pieces of April.
• 26:49
  Speaker 18: Welcome to Krispy Kreme.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: May I take your order? Just remember, everybody, April is cooking.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: We'll need an extra dozen glaze.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Even though I met you only recently I find myself
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: falling in love with you.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know quite how to put this decently.
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: But what's the chance that you could love me too?
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: Has made my dreams come true.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: And turned my.
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Gray sky blue.
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: Why, it's you, you, you, you, you.
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: Turkey season? We know how you love turkey.
• 28:07
  Speaker 11: Speaking of that, what is this guy's deal with veganism?
• 28:11
  Speaker 11: Because I remember the thing that I hated the most
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: about a boy was about the stupid jabs at veganism.
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: And that's the same dude. Anyway, I'm getting ahead of us.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: Peace in April.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: We are getting ahead.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Let's begin. But I do think it's funny within the
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: communities themselves when there becomes this little war. Because we
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: did have friends that were vegetarian and were pretty hardcore
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: about it. And then they had friends that were vegan.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: And they're at a party. And I'm sitting there and
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm working around whatever they all brought. Just
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: finding what I want. Then the vegetarian offers something to
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: the vegan. And he's like, well, if you'd eat cheese
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: like a normal person... So I'm like, each one is
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: like a stage of like, well, but you won't eat.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Never mind. It becomes these levels of like everybody overanalyzing
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: what the other person has their thing about.
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: And I don't know.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: I thought that was funny because I feel like it
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: does exist. And I like the fact that the chick
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: has a lot of attitude.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I was.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: Just confused about how she didn't just kind of presume
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: somebody wants to borrow my oven for Thanksgiving that she
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: can assume it's going to be something with me because
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: it's Thanksgiving. She agreed in the first place and then
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: was taken by surprise.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: So that lady's just kind of a jerk.
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: She's just kind of a jerk. With all her bumper
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: stickers on her door.
• 29:24
  Speaker 13: Right?
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: Just to establish who she is.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: It's usually how it goes, actually. People with those bumper
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: stickers are very well established in their mind. All right,
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: so this week's holiday edition of Sofa Theater is.
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: You sound excited about this.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: You don't think it's a holiday?
• 29:45
  Speaker 10: Sorry to stop you, but you were just like... There
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: we go, it's holiday time.
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: If we've learned anything from the holidays, it's really.
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: I am so overwhelmed with joy that the whole old
• 29:55
  Speaker 9: group is back together again.
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: Spending time with the family is trying on many occasions, but...
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: This week's feature is Pieces of April. The year is 2003.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: The director is Peter Hedges, and the synopsis, according to IMDb, is,
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: and I would say it's a spoiler, but it really
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: is the premise of this movie, a wayward daughter invites
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: her dying mother and the rest of her estranged family
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: to her apartment for Thanksgiving dinner.
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: That's not a spoiler. It's established pretty early that she's
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: got cancer.
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: I'd rather she have cancer than just have a really
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: bad wig.
• 30:30
  Speaker 14: What year was this?
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: 2003.
• 30:31
  Speaker 10: 2003.
• 30:32
  Speaker 15: 2003.
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: 2003.
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: Doesn't it feel even older, though?
• 30:36
  Speaker 14: It feels like it was written right after the director
• 30:41
  Speaker 14: saw Singles.
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: 96?
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: This would be mid-90s, Soundgarden in the background kind of.
• 30:51
  Speaker 11: That was actually my complaint of the film when I
• 30:53
  Speaker 11: saw it in 2003. Okay, wow, good.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: Which, what was?
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: 10 years ago.
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: Just that it felt dated.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: It felt dated?
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: Now it just all feels retro, but.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: Which, I mean, which part? To me, everything in that
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: era now, like, everything late 90s till, like, pretty far
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: into the 2000s, like, you just get that technology thing. Like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: even now, I'm like, why didn't everybody have a cell phone? Like,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: you know, we all are just attached to them now, so.
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah, we can't remake this one.
• 31:22
  Speaker 14: The only person that had a cell phone was Cisco.
• 31:25
  Speaker 14: I don't understand, you know, why is.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: That's because we assumed at the beginning there that he
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: was probably a drug dealer, right? That's kind of what
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: they were setting up like.
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: They were trying to give you that idea. And then
• 31:38
  Speaker 10: I told Len when we were watching.
• 31:39
  Speaker 12: It, they want us to think he's a drug dealer.
• 31:41
  Speaker 10: Because they're being all coy about he has that thing
• 31:44
  Speaker 10: he has to go do. And he's black. Who says
• 31:48
  Speaker 10: that thing I have to go do? Movie people.
• 31:51
  Speaker 7: And then we're going to feel really bad because he's
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: not going to go.
• 31:55
  Speaker 14: It was never drugs.
• 31:57
  Speaker 7: It turns out he's going to get some nice clothes
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: so he can go sell drugs.
• 32:02
  Speaker 11: So he can sell better drugs to better people.
• 32:08
  Speaker 12: I thought that was a little coy.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: It goes on for far too long. It takes him
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: half the day to get a blazer.
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: Well, they were all pimp clothes, man. What do you want?
• 32:22
  Speaker 14: Because there's not a Salvation Army, you know, every other block.
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: In New York. I guess he didn't know that's where
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: he was going, but that's kind of what I was thinking,
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: because I'm like, I could get to like five places
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: similar to that in a very short amount of time.
• 32:34
  Speaker 11: Except they're all closed on Thanksgiving. Like, as you saw,
• 32:38
  Speaker 11: he passed by the closed grocery store to establish that,
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: in fact, all businesses were closed on Thanksgiving.
• 32:43
  Speaker 10: I mean, I think they were trying to just... That's
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: what I was thinking.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Why did he not plan ahead?
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: I mean, I won't diss a little subplot to where
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: the new boyfriend is trying to do the best he
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: can to make a good impression, but it's like they
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: padded it to almost make it like a second little
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: minor movie within. That kind of came.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: Across as the most unnecessary thing. Well, and they needed
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: something to get him out of the way because she
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: had to have her own struggles going on by herself,
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: so it's like, we need to send him on a
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: thing somewhere. And it really is that thing he has
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: to do.
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: So it's a very short movie as is.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: So maybe they just needed to bulk up the plot
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: in the runtime a little.
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: Bit.
• 33:24
  Speaker 14: I guess the other reason why I asked the 2003 thing,
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: it really felt, and I don't even know about the
• 33:31
  Speaker 14: date of release, but Little Miss Sunshine, it's almost the
• 33:35
  Speaker 14: road trip and the grandma and the, Everything seemed like
• 33:39
  Speaker 14: they were trying to be that storyline as well.
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: This predates it by three years.
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 33:45
  Speaker 14: But it does feel like that exact same.
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: And that was one thing that I was kind of
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: thinking as I was watching it. And that's at least
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: one thing that I like about it. Little Miss Sunshine.
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: I watched that movie and I'm like, there's no way
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: these characters exist in real life. I can't really buy
• 34:00
  Speaker 9: that with that movie. It's fun. It's silly. It's like
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: almost watching... You know, a National Lampoon's movie. It's like, yeah,
• 34:06
  Speaker 9: these are fun extensions of characters, but I don't find
• 34:09
  Speaker 9: them credible. But, you know, on this one, I found
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: them a little bit more plausible than that genre of
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: movie usually offers up.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: I did get flashes of that with the old lady
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: in the backseat. I mean, it was a little National
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: Lampoon's for me.
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 34:25
  Speaker 12: Am I the only person who got a good man?
• 34:27
  Speaker 10: It's hard to find. It's just....
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: It's just you. Would you like to elaborate on that?
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: Oh, you know the story with the grandma in the
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: backseat and she brings the cat and the cat jumps
• 34:40
  Speaker 7: out and they all get murdered?
• 34:41
  Speaker 22: It's just you.
• 34:45
  Speaker 10: It's just the road trip with a little family.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: And murder.
• 34:49
  Speaker 8: And then nothing else happens.
• 34:53
  Speaker 10: Well, you don't know that at the beginning.
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: That's true. They could get murdered. they think they're about
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: to get murdered by a scary black guy with a
• 35:00
  Speaker 8: bloody face.
• 35:00
  Speaker 22: Right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: That's true.
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: And I will say that that part did actually make
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: me laugh out loud. I was like, oh, this is
• 35:04
  Speaker 11: where this is all going. I felt like his performance
• 35:07
  Speaker 11: was great.
• 35:08
  Speaker 12: Which one?
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: The boyfriend?
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: I really did like him, and that's one of those
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: that could have been, I don't know, it could have
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: gone the wrong way. It could have seemed like we
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: weren't supposed to like him because you're on the family
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: side or something, but from the first moment, he's so
• 35:24
  Speaker 6: damn likable. And then all the way through, you're like, No, he's, like,
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: the best thing that's ever happened in her life. Like,
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: he's the one person that's, like, actually cares about her
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: and is, like, trying to help her get her life
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: together and, like, worries about what's best for her.
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: Like, even above himself. I wanted him to leave her
• 35:41
  Speaker 14: because I thought she was a horrible person. I was like,
• 35:44
  Speaker 14: what redeeming quality does she have? She hates everyone. She's
• 35:48
  Speaker 14: rude to everyone in her entire family.
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: No, I was okay with her.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: That all seemed right in my mind.
• 35:53
  Speaker 10: Oh, okay.
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: Well, I.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: I'm a jackass as well.
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 35:56
  Speaker 10: What's that?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Well, as the black sheep of my family, and it's
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: not anything like that because I get along with my family,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: but I understood it, I guess. And also, I watched
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: this for the first time 10 years ago, and so
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: 10 years along now, a lot more stuff has happened.
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: To kind of this... Yeah, I don't know.
• 36:14
  Speaker 9: And that's the way I kind of see it. A
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: lot of people have cohesive families. Components of my family
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: just hate one another. It's like you can tell if
• 36:24
  Speaker 9: you get me around, you know, all my brothers, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 9: we're going to be looking at each other like, I
• 36:30
  Speaker 9: fucking hate you.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: I hate.
• 36:34
  Speaker 9: Between the brothers or other family members? When I see
• 36:38
  Speaker 9: all these photos being posted, you know, online of everybody
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: at the holidays and everyone's just like all lovey-dovey, it's like, no,
• 36:45
  Speaker 9: I totally get like that aspect of the movie to where,
• 36:48
  Speaker 9: you know, An entire chunk of the family doesn't want
• 36:51
  Speaker 9: to talk to a sibling. Or, you know, you don't
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: even want to get over. And as soon as you're
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: going over, like, you're pre-eating because it's like, oh, they
• 37:00
  Speaker 9: think that they're going to be able to cook a meal.
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: You need to fill up before you go over there
• 37:04
  Speaker 9: because it's going to taste like shit. Like, that expectation,
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: I've been there, and I've also had that happen to me. So,
• 37:10
  Speaker 9: you know, that aspect of it, you know, I very
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: much identify with. Which is always why I've kind of like...
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: The movie sort of clicked with me. It's got some
• 37:19
  Speaker 9: caricatures of human beings that I don't find... They almost
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: don't fit in. Like the fellow... The other boyfriend?
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that was a little silly. Well, and I'm talking
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: the guy that locks her turkey up.
• 37:34
  Speaker 11: Sean Hayes.
• 37:36
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 37:36
  Speaker 9: I can't stand that character in the movie and... It's
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: like you're the most effeminate, lecherous guy in the world.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: Your personality and the way you're doing this performance does
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: not sink in with this guy that's wanting to make
• 37:52
  Speaker 9: a move on this girl while her boyfriend's out.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: Is that what that was? Because, again, he plays it
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: so weird, I wasn't sure what exactly.
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: He was doing.
• 38:00
  Speaker 9: And I only assume it because the camera is doing
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: just the pan of Katie Holmes' performance. Rear while she's
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: cooking But.
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: I assume Sean was like Whatever don't want any of
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: that so Hello.
• 38:13
  Speaker 15: What Hello.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I was knocking on a lot of doors Looking for
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you Yours was ajar Come.
• 38:25
  Speaker 10: In How's it going.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: No foreseeable problems I was about to check your turkey myself,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: then I thought, since it's yours, maybe you'd prefer to
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: do the checking.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I certainly could do it for you, and will, if
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: you'd like. Didn't want to presume.
• 38:53
  Speaker 10: It's fine, whatever.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: It's a common misconception that you can just stick a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: turkey in the oven. Turkey needs to be tended to.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: He needs to be cared for lovingly. One must pay
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: close attention to poultry.
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: Sure.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: So much can go wrong. Turkey could burn in places,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: be overcooked, undercooked, which is a health hazard. And what
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: about basting?
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: Look, Wayne, I'll be up in a second, okay?
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: Okay.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: A second's up.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: Just give me a minute.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: Tick-tock.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: It was a long time where I just didn't like his... Mostly,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: his TV performance was so one-note and so kind of
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: offensive that I was just like, I just didn't like him.
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: And I've seen him in other stuff, and I've seen
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: him on shows now, and I'm like, he's not bad.
• 40:05
  Speaker 6: I don't hate him in the real world, but that
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: character on TV got so bad that this was at
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: least dialed back a little, but it was so weird.
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: Which character? It just didn't fit the... Oh, Will and Grace.
• 40:17
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: I've never seen it.
• 40:19
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it's okay.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: You're not missing much. I was not thrilled with pretty
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: much everybody on that except for... What's her name?
• 40:26
  Speaker 11: Megan Mullally.
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: Yes, Megan. Megan was hilarious. It almost made up for
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: everyone else being kind of terrible because the other three
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: main cast members I was not thrilled with. But yeah,
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: in this one, it's like he's not playing that note
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: that he always played. So I was like, well, that's nice,
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: I guess. At first, I was like, this is refreshing.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: He's doing it. No, what is he doing?
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: Like, I just.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: Could never make up my mind what he was doing
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: with that role. It was just weird.
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: It felt like another movie. It's like we just walked
• 40:53
  Speaker 11: into another movie.
• 40:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 40:54
  Speaker 11: And tonally, I don't understand what's happening.
• 40:55
  Speaker 9: Like when he's talking about, you know, the oven and
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: he's stroking it. I'm like, okay, evidently at some point
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: in time, you all like, I'm sure the crew was
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: standing back and they were laughing and found that funny.
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: But at no point in time did someone have the
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: guts to stand up and say, This does not fit
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: the tone of the rest of the film. It doesn't.
• 41:17
  Speaker 14: I think there were things... See, I was kind of
• 41:19
  Speaker 14: annoyed by certain things, and I think there was another
• 41:21
  Speaker 14: one in my mind that was the quirky character forced
• 41:28
  Speaker 14: in to make it feel more like an independent movie does.
• 41:31
  Speaker 14: You know, you always got this, oh, look at this
• 41:33
  Speaker 14: fully developed character in this real world that... oh, I'd
• 41:37
  Speaker 14: love to know more about that character, but we don't
• 41:39
  Speaker 14: get much of it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: Which is also the way I felt towards going into
• 41:42
  Speaker 9: the whole quirky indie thing, because that definitely was on
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: the rise in the early 2000s, with them just getting
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: the mom high. And she's listening to the rap music.
• 41:53
  Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, this is the funny little quirky indie
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: comedy moment where it's like, ha-ha, the mom's high.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I feel that whole scene actually kind of moving. The
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: way she's coping with her own mortality.
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: To me, I liked it more when it came to
• 42:10
  Speaker 9: the COVID mortality, like when they're looking at the photo album.
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: I think that's a really nice little scene where you're
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: seeing why the son, what he's doing with the photos.
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: And then just she's looking through it. She brought it
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: for April to potentially see if she's interested. And, you know,
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: even the mom or the grandmother has like that moment
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: where she's like, you know, I thought her singing was better.
• 42:32
  Speaker 8: Like she.
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: she at that moment shows like a little bit of
• 42:36
  Speaker 9: clarity as opposed to just being some stereotypical Alzheimer's patient
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: or patient with dementia or someone. And she just looks
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: over and she realizes what it is and she knows,
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: but it's almost like you get the sense that maybe
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: the grandmother, the mom's mother, um, she's almost using it
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: as an angle to not deal with that situation like that.
• 42:59
  Speaker 9: It seems like it's very inferred in a very subtle scene.
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: And I like that a lot.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: Well, and it's probably like those two scenes, but mostly
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: the photo album is almost the only time in that,
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: definitely up to that point in the movie that there's
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: any humanity in the mom. Like the mom is just
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: a horrible person, like the entire rest of the movie.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: And you're like, yeah, I know you're dealing with your
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: stuff here, but these are still your children. This is
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: still your family and you can't, go that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: Far like you're crossing the line i think part of
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: that too is so you sympathize a little bit with
• 43:30
  Speaker 9: april yeah so that way you see that you know
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: as she's going around just pounding on people's doors like
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: you need to open up you need to help me
• 43:36
  Speaker 9: you kind of also understand it's just she's inherited some
• 43:40
  Speaker 9: of that personality from her mom if anything maybe she's
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: the most like her mother of all three of the
• 43:45
  Speaker 9: children that's why they don't get along i don't.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Think she's a terrible person actually this again this it's
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: been so long since i've seen it since then i've
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I'm a father and I'm also doing that by myself,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: so I understand this weird pressure that comes.
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: From when the family's coming over.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: The part where she gets out and she starts ranting
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: because she is so disappointed in April and this experience
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: that they've had. It's kind of a mean thing, but
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: at the same time, I don't know, it's just a
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: weird kind of mentality that I felt sympathetic towards her.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine growing up and feeling like you can't
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: connect to this person that you helped raise. Especially if
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: you're dying on top of that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: I thought any of that that they earned in that
• 44:37
  Speaker 14: was lost when she was going through the I can't
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: think of one good memory from my child.
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: Again, that was just mean for the sake of mean.
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: If there's.
• 44:49
  Speaker 14: Being a parent, if there's that kind of a problem,
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: especially with a little kid, that there's nothing wrong with
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: a little kid, unless they're pure evil. Unless this is
• 45:00
  Speaker 14: a horror movie and this.
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: Is an evil child.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: She's the Damien, yeah.
• 45:04
  Speaker 14: That's your fault. If you can't find something, some good memory,
• 45:08
  Speaker 14: that's your fault. And you better get that out of
• 45:12
  Speaker 14: your head because you're putting all of it on your child.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: And a lot of that's true. And that's... I'm always
• 45:18
  Speaker 6: saying that, and this will be fun for those of
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: you that have children, which there are several here. Because
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: I always, like, it's not just about this movie. Like,
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: I always have this, like, serious tone when people decide
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: to have children. And I'm like, it's like you are
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: entering into this agreement with life that you are now
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: responsible for screwing up this person. Like, you are solely responsible,
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: or maybe there's two of you. Together, you're responsible for...
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: how messed up this person is going to be. And
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: so many people just like, oh, well, this is what happened.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: We're having a kid. And I'm like, no, really? Like you,
• 45:55
  Speaker 6: so many people just do not take it seriously. And
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: I watched these kids grow up and I watch how
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: they're getting messed up. And half of it is just neglect.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: And half of it is just a tone that they're not.
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: And so, I mean, again, it certainly varies from parent
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: to parent, but I think it's really interesting to see like,
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: this sort of played out that we see.
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: That frustrates you come to my work and it's like
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: you hear students that are getting ready to have a
• 46:21
  Speaker 9: baby to where they're like oh it's gonna be cute
• 46:23
  Speaker 9: and they're almost like they're anticipating essentially having a new
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: puppy as opposed to realizing the ramifications of what's coming
• 46:30
  Speaker 9: down the pipeline then you'd really.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Get and that's that's where i call bullshit but but
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: it i mean there's another side to that too but well.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: I'm found that a little unbelievable that they just couldn't
• 46:41
  Speaker 7: find that i mean come on it's almost like they
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: make their family issues like that bottle of poison labeled
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: poison and a melodrama it's like this this isn't adding
• 46:53
  Speaker 7: up i know we're supposed to relate to them having
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: family issues but there's kind of a hole.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: There though at the same time i feel like there
• 47:00
  Speaker 9: are some families to where they purposefully see what they
• 47:04
  Speaker 9: want to see and so it's like i'm sure that
• 47:06
  Speaker 9: she has done good things it's just they spent so
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: long focusing on the bad it's like they almost pretended
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: it doesn't exist and now believe that it doesn't it's
• 47:14
  Speaker 9: a weird sense of denial.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: And we only see one day out of her life
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: as well and at the end of the day she
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: realizes she sees the other girl in the in the
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: bathroom and realizes maybe some of this is my own
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: fault and so i feel like we have that moment
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: she's I'm sure, you know, maybe on any other day
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: she could come up with some lovely memories from when
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: April was a child. But on this particular just really
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: terrible day, she just maybe doesn't even care to do so.
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: But I think that's, like, a huge message. And, again,
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: not in the movie, in life. Like, it really is,
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: and especially the younger the kid is, that, like, the
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: reason the way they are the way they are is
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: directly responsible. Maybe not 100%. but directly responsible for you
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: and your environment and what you do. And it's like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: it does just sort of continue to build as they
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: get older, they go off on their own and they
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: start making their own bad decisions, but that's a whole
• 48:04
  Speaker 6: nother side to it. But I think it is one
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: of those, like the mother feels like in my mind
• 48:09
  Speaker 6: watching it, I'm like, the mother feels like she's not
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: taking any responsibility. Like April's just a horrible person and
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: I don't like her. And I'm like, well, how did
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: she end up this way? It's like, yeah, you're talking
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: about times when she's doing drugs and when she's not listening, but,
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: how did she get to that point because she didn't
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: just happen there one day it's like it was something
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: that happened in her life and you were there for
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: that and you somehow let it get to that point
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: not that you're personally responsible i mean that that stuff
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: just happens in life but it's also the way you
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: deal with it when you're at that point instead of
• 48:39
  Speaker 6: just letting it lapse like it seems like she has
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: these last.
• 48:42
  Speaker 9: Years they infer that you know she's um had cancer
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: for a while and they also infer april's been this
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: way for a while and so you know part of
• 48:50
  Speaker 9: me is i was like you know putting one and
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: one together it's like is it possible that doing all
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: these drugs all this stuff it was basically april's way
• 48:58
  Speaker 9: of coping with the fact that her mom was potentially
• 49:01
  Speaker 9: dying it's like she didn't know how to deal with
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: it any other way the other kids had the strength
• 49:05
  Speaker 9: and maturity to deal with it in their own way
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: find their own outlets but this is just how she
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: found hers and the mom never recognized that I.
• 49:13
  Speaker 7: Guess the empty place for me is I never really
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: see anything wrong with April.
• 49:19
  Speaker 6: Me neither.
• 49:19
  Speaker 12: I hear about it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: I tell stories.
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: It's like they don't trust us to care about her
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: if we see her being. They tell stories, but they're
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: also pretty unreliable narrators.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: Well, I actually like that it is her now, and
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: we don't see her doing these horrible things now. Because
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: I like the fact that it is her trying to
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: do something with her life. That she's almost at this
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: point been branded as she's the bad kid. She's the
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: black sheep. She's the, you know, as though at that
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: point you have no choice. You just have to continue
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: down the road to be a fuck up for the
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: rest of your life. And I don't believe that. And
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: I like the fact that midway in she's like, no,
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: I want to be with Someone who cares about me.
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: I want to do something with my life. I don't
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: want to keep making these mistakes.
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: Essentially, we're almost on par with the boyfriend in the
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: sense to where we don't have that context for what
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: she'd done in the past. And so if this family
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: shows up and they're telling us all this stuff, we're
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: like him to where it's like, I don't see that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 9: I don't know that aspect of her.
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: And I don't care because this is who she is
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: now and I don't see anything wrong with it.
• 50:21
  Speaker 8: And we don't know that she actually did anything bad
• 50:23
  Speaker 8: either because their concerns were tattoos, which is not a
• 50:25
  Speaker 8: personality flaw. Her other concerns were drugs. We don't know.
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: What that was, it may have just been daughter.
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she was doing drugs in the car or in
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: the bathroom.
• 50:37
  Speaker 14: Not only was she doing the drugs, she was teaching
• 50:39
  Speaker 14: her son to do them better.
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: And she told him her one thing was to complain
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: to him that he didn't roll with Titan. Again, kind
• 50:47
  Speaker 6: of being a jerk.
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: Have we talked about how cute she is? April? I agree.
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: I was always a sucker.
• 50:53
  Speaker 12: I've never noticed that actress before.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: See, that's the thing. You were always on the other side,
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: on the Dawson clan. I tried to watch it and
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: I couldn't. Yeah, the writing's rough to get through. But
• 51:05
  Speaker 6: that's the thing. From day one, it was like, and
• 51:08
  Speaker 6: it's funny because it kind of backfired on the network
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: because they brought in, what's her face? The blonde chick.
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: Michelle Williams. They brought her in to be the big
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: female lead and she was supposed to get all the
• 51:19
  Speaker 6: attention and she was supposed to be the one And
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: America collectively went, no, it's the girl next door. Like
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: we all kind of, which it feels like that's the
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: way it was supposed to be in the story, but
• 51:29
  Speaker 6: I still don't think they planned for that. And they
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: started shifting the writing as it went on, because I
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: don't think the Joey character was supposed to be as
• 51:36
  Speaker 6: big a deal. And everyone was just like, no, she's
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: kind of great. And everybody wants that to be their
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: next door neighbor. And like, so again, it was a weird,
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: simple show in its own way, but it had decent performances.
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: I never got on board with the Michelle Williams thing.
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: And it's funny that now she's gone through all these
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: weird little performances and indie roles and has built her
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: way up to being this big actress. I was just
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: never thrilled with her. But I always thought Katie had
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: potential to do way more than that.
• 52:07
  Speaker 12: With me, it was just what she was wearing.
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: I'm just a sucker for that kind of low-dollar style.
• 52:14
  Speaker 10: It's just awesome.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: Again, I like that that was her outfit for her
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: big day. And it was almost like, I'm still going
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: to be myself. Like, I want you to accept me
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: for who I am, and that includes I dress like
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: this all the time.
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: It was just so great. The thing she did with
• 52:32
  Speaker 10: her hair, the little... What is that? I don't even
• 52:35
  Speaker 10: know what that is.
• 52:36
  Speaker 7: Then she had that thing wrapped around her hand somehow.
• 52:40
  Speaker 10: That was really cool.
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: She's pretty likable.
• 52:43
  Speaker 11: For me, cuteness notwithstanding, I thought she was the weakest
• 52:46
  Speaker 11: part of the film for a movie that is titled
• 52:50
  Speaker 11: after the main character. I just felt like there was
• 52:53
  Speaker 11: so much shorthand about the feelings that we were supposed
• 52:55
  Speaker 11: to feel for her. She has no charisma. There was
• 52:58
  Speaker 11: no quality to her that made me care at all.
• 53:03
  Speaker 11: I got that she was supposed to have this gruff exterior,
• 53:06
  Speaker 11: but really she had a heart of gold. But really
• 53:07
  Speaker 11: she was just misunderstood, and why can't people see who
• 53:09
  Speaker 11: she really is? And it's just like, I didn't know
• 53:11
  Speaker 11: who she really is. She just felt like this very
• 53:13
  Speaker 11: empty vessel to me.
• 53:14
  Speaker 14: I think that's why everything, all of her troubles and
• 53:17
  Speaker 14: all of her past were on purpose. She was a
• 53:20
  Speaker 14: blank canvas, and we were supposed to be that character.
• 53:22
  Speaker 14: So we could project all of our faults onto her, say, no,
• 53:26
  Speaker 14: we're better, and then, oh, well, she's cute.
• 53:28
  Speaker 12: And then.
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: And maybe that was part of her problem. Maybe she
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: was one of those girls that was a blank canvas
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: and she waited until the boyfriend came along to attach
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: herself to and all she did was end up with
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: horrible boyfriends.
• 53:40
  Speaker 11: Maybe she was an asshole until Bobby came along.
• 53:43
  Speaker 6: Bobby was the one that kind of went, oh, well,
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: you know, you don't have to be like that. And
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: she saw something good in him and then wanted to
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: be better herself.
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: And that's why when he left, she was an asshole again.
• 53:52
  Speaker 11: I thought she was kind of an asshole during the movie.
• 53:54
  Speaker 12: I didn't get that.
• 53:54
  Speaker 11: Well, she was just kind of entitled, and she was
• 53:56
  Speaker 11: kind of gruff, and she wasn't particularly nice to the
• 53:58
  Speaker 11: people who were trying to help her out at first.
• 54:00
  Speaker 11: And then they would ask a little more, and then
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: she would show how she was really a normal person.
• 54:05
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: I would say it's probably fair that one of the
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: reasons I largely like it is I almost identify more
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: with the situation than the character. I totally feel that,
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: because I mean, you know, like going back to the
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: way it is with my family, you know, the first,
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: you know, we always had the Christmas tradition of getting
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: together for breakfast and, you know, and my grandparents, they
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: would always just go out and get Krispy Kremes. And
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: I thought, okay, my first year in my new house,
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: I'm going to have like, you know, a nice breakfast.
• 54:34
  Speaker 9: So I made like, you know, a breakfast straw to
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: hash brown casserole. Like I made, you know, a big spread.
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: And then, you know, the first person to show up is,
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: you know, the sort of black sheep brother. And he,
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: comes in and i was like oh the food's already
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: he's like i just picked up some donuts at the
• 54:50
  Speaker 9: gas station and i was like okay and then my
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: grandparents get there and they had brought um like an
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: inman's strudel and then i was like well i made
• 55:02
  Speaker 9: this you're like no we're not going to eat that
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: thanks for having faith in me guys and then you
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: know i and then same with like my mom came
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: up and she, she's like, Oh, we just stopped at McDonald's.
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: So like everybody, like they knew, they knew that I
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: was making all this meal. And you know, my brother, um, John, he,
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: thankfully he like went and got this nice, um, spread
• 55:24
  Speaker 9: of stuff. He's like, this is really good. And my
• 55:27
  Speaker 9: grandfather's like, it looks like shit. And then my brother,
• 55:31
  Speaker 9: John's like, no, it's real good. You should try it.
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: My grandfather went over and I've made wassail that, you know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: had to like simmer overnight, you know, let all flavors out.
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: And he gets this mug of it and he sips
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: on it and he goes, tastes like horse piss and
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: just dumps it out. And the whole time I'm just
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: like being nice because that's family. It's like, and so
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: I totally sympathize. And then the next year I did
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: it again and I even knew, I was like, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: knew they're all going to eat before they come here
• 55:59
  Speaker 9: and fuck them. I'm still going to make this breakfast
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: in the event that they want to be nice. And
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: so I totally bond with or identify with She knows
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: they're going to shit on whatever she's doing. And she
• 56:13
  Speaker 9: even kind of doesn't want to do it. She's doing
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: it anyway, because that's what the holidays are about, is
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: not killing your family, but bringing them over there.
• 56:24
  Speaker 11: So you relate to this in a very specific way,
• 56:26
  Speaker 11: as if the writer had been reading your diary. I
• 56:28
  Speaker 11: guess he has. This is sort of the Bo Kalin story.
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's identifiable for... Everyone who doesn't have, like,
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: the goofy Hallmark Christmas holidays. You know, this idea, like,
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: everybody just comes over, everyone has a great meal, exchanges presents,
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: and it's great! It's like, yeah, congratulations.
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: It is, but they give you both of the possible
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: good endings they could possibly.
• 56:52
  Speaker 10: Have gone with.
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: I think the ending goes on a little long.
• 56:56
  Speaker 7: It's like, okay, she gets to know the people in
• 56:59
  Speaker 7: her building, and it's nice, and they come over, and
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: that Oh, and her family comes after all.
• 57:05
  Speaker 11: Oh, and the guys, the motorcyclists.
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: See, and that's where I thought it got a little
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: bit greedy. I felt like re-watching it, I thought they
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: should have just ended it with the initial photograph. Like,
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: that's it. Not show everybody showing up like, you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: it's the ending of A Christmas Carol or It's a
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: Wonderful Life. And don't even establish that necessarily she brought
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: the neighbors over.
• 57:29
  Speaker 8: It's just.
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: You hear a knock at the door, she opens it up,
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: and there's, like, the photograph still. It's like, you've got
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: to cut there, and that would have been much more subtle,
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: and it would have worked so much better.
• 57:37
  Speaker 11: Why do they have so little trust in the neighbors
• 57:39
  Speaker 11: that they're still doing a self-time photograph with all those
• 57:42
  Speaker 11: people hanging out in the room with them?
• 57:44
  Speaker 10: This is runoff with the camera. That's true.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: It's New York City. I do, it's one of those,
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: I really, thinking about it after the fact, it's like,
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: I could have even been fine with the parents not
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: coming back. Like, it would totally sell the mom down
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: the river. They have that redeeming moment when she sees
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: the other daughter in the bathroom. But I'm kind of like,
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: it really would have still been fine with me as
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: a story. Because that's kind of my favorite thing about
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: it is almost the structure of it. It's just like, okay,
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: her family is totally estranged from her. But in the
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: process of this crazy situation that the oven doesn't work,
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: she is forced to go out and meet her neighbors.
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Because none of us really interact with our neighbors. They're
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: all weirdos and.
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: We know it. We don't want anything to do with them.
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: But in this situation, yeah, Fred's hiding from one right now.
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: And when she's talking to the neighbors coming down the steps,
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: they're not even listening to her. They're just walking past him.
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: I don't think that's necessarily a New York thing, even
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: though that's great.
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: That's universal, I think.
• 58:42
  Speaker 9: At least now.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know that it always was. But I like
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: that this bad situation forces her to have to interact
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: with the people around her. And in this one, again,
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: it's very movie-like. In this one day, she builds this
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: makeshift family. out of the people living in her building.
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: It would have been awesome to me if they were
• 59:00
  Speaker 6: all eating at the end of the movie.
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, to me, the neighbors that seemed the most believable
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: and I really liked was the couple that she meets
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: at the very beginning when she's first using it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: That exchange I really liked, especially that, like.
• 59:15
  Speaker 9: Their relationship seems very believable, I feel like. Just the constant, like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: undercutting one another. But, you know, it's... But at the.
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: Same time, like, you always know what I'm thinking. Exactly. Really,
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: it's very, it does feel like they were like a
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: couple that had been together for years. And I like
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: that they bonded. Like, it was one of those, like,
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: when she answered the door, she had that, you know,
• 59:37
  Speaker 6: you're very privileged attitude. What have you got to offer
• 59:40
  Speaker 6: in life? And then, like, we cut to her crying.
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: And it's like, the family trauma is the one thing
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: that bonds us. Across the board, and that, I guess,
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: is what you can take from this movie, that we
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: all see at least some piece of that family trauma
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: and be like, all right, I get that part.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: About that scene, though, I was kind of, I feel
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: kind of weird about the woman. She opens the door
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: and all April says is, I've got a problem. And
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: this woman is.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: Immediately like, you're young, you're white, like, what the fuck?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: I loved the laugh, though, when she laughed in her face.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 10: That was.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: And I think, too, that that almost might be her
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: kind of joking with April, and April doesn't get the joke.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: You've got problems, do you?
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of people that are like that.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah, but a lot of people are kind of jerks.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: But she's not.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 8: This woman isn't. She's a really nice woman, so it
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: just seemed really kind of weird.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 10: But with all of them, you have to get past
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 10: the gruff. She's married to that.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 17: Guy from The Wire who always said she is.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: I'm sure that's what he was thinking.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Going back to the Krispy Kreme thing, my biggest concern
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: with the movie was that scene where the mom is like,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: how can anyone not believe in God?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: And we get this nice wide shot of Krispy Kreme.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: They paid for the movie, is what we.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: Apparently.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: And they are God.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 8: And that's it.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 7: Oh, I thought her prank on the family was just
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: completely unbelievable.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 8: I mean... Like, hilarious?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: It was kind of funny, but I mean, it took
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: me out of, like, really believing in the people and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: the situation.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: And it was drug out a little too much. Like,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: she was playing it so much that you're like, okay,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: now she's going to say something stupid, right?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 9: Which, I mean, I don't think it's that bad of
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: a performance. It wasn't until I was, like, looking up
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 9: some stuff, and I was trying to figure out where
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: Oliver Platt disappeared to is how I got on IMDb
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 9: with this page. That's a good question. But I suddenly realized, like, oh,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: she was nominated for Best Supporting Academy Award for that role.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: And I was like, I like this movie, but I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: don't see that.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 6: Not out of her.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 17: To me, it's just I feel like some TV beats
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 17: in the writing.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: I just feel like they're sampling some TV show moments.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 6: Which, by now, if you fast forward all these years,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: he's writing for television.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, and how believable is it that their kids
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: are both on the newsroom?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: But going back to Oliver Platt, it solved my question,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 9: because he was... everywhere in.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 22: The late 90s early 2000s definitely everywhere like 10 movies
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 22: a year and it'll suddenly he just disappears and it's
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 22: like oh he's apparently he's doing more television now like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 22: he's always still busy but he just went more to
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 22: television from film.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 6: That was kind of my thing I'm sitting there as
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: we get into the watching him and I'm just like
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: I said that I'm like remember when Oliver Platt was
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: a thing like yeah he was just he was never
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: really A-list but he was definitely a go-to B-list kind
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 6: of guy in like that late 90s era and Yeah,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: I was kind of thinking the same thing.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 9: It's like you go to the village eight at any
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: given time, he's in like four of the eight movies.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, really.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: Well, and it was kind of interesting, I guess, to
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: see him not be a complete and utter jackass, because
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: he's usually so unlikable in a lot of his performances,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: even when he's good, because he's turned in some really
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 6: good stuff over the years, but it's not normally likable characters,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: so you do feel like he's the only one in
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: her corner. As you're getting there, he's the one that's
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: the only reason they know where she is, that they've
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: kept in contact with her, is because Dad's still kind
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: of pulling for it.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 9: Even as Paul Bunyan in Tall Tale, he's an asshole.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 15: That's right.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 9: For those of you who forgot that movie existed.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: Everybody did.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: I remember seeing commercials for it on TV when I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: was a kid, but I never saw it.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 6: Patrick Swayze's Finest Hour.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: Patrick Swayze.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 8: Makes me want to go watch it now, though.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 9: It's another episode.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: Didn't she sing kind of middle-child-y for the first girl?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: No, I got that, though, because I realized, oh, I'm
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: the first pancake.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 12: No wonder.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: I felt that, actually.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a good line, I thought.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: Actually, I like that expression. I never heard that before.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was one of those, oh, now it comes together.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: You're supposed to throw out the first pancake because it's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: not the good one. I kind of got that from
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: that role. So, again, I feel like there is that, like,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: when you're the first child and you're supposed to do
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: all this stuff and you don't, You get the extra
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: level of black sheep, the extra fuck up of the
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: bunch when you're supposed to be the one leading.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 9: The way and you're not.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 11: And they established that the mom was really young when
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 11: she had her and probably didn't want her and blah.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: But I'm interested in how you make pancakes. I feel like.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 11: The first one's usually the best one.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: Really?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 22: Yeah.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 8: Mine too.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: Mine are never, no.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 6: It's not the case for me.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: It's not the case for me. I didn't know it
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 10: was a thing. And that line, I was like, they
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: know me.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 11: They've been reading my diary, too.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: Have they also checked my waffle maker? Because usually that
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: first one of those is a little iffy, too.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: I always throw out the middle child.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: That's what happened to that other kid.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: Good thing you only had two.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: That you know of.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: Actually, sometimes.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 11: Remember poor Bobby?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 7: Sometimes I can't believe my siblings and I survived our childhood.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 12: And then I think, you know, our backyard was lumped.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: It would explain a lot you do have an odd
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: childhood friend yeah.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 11: So can we talk about the other stuff this fella's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 11: done all right because i was just kind of looking
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 11: over it and i feel like it's all kind of
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 11: the same genre which i'm gonna call quirky heartwarming.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah it's definitely hitting that that same stride as he
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: runs through most of his career there.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 11: And then I saw that he did this film that
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 11: I just immediately discounted wholly when I saw the trailer,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 11: The Odd Life of Timothy Green, which looked unbelievably horrible.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 11: And watching the trailer, I was so confused. Like, this
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 11: is so quirky, yet so heartwarming. And I don't understand
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 11: what's happening.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: And I wasn't sure what audience they were going for.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 11: Then I saw that it was created by Zappa. And
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 11: now I kind of totally want.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: To see it more than anything in the world.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 9: Another episode.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 11: So has anybody seen it?
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 18: No.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 6: No, I saw the trailer and went, what is this?
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: And Jennifer Garner, and goodbye.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: Well, it's the same with Dan in real life.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: I've never seen that one either.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: I didn't really hear anything positive about it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 11: No, quirky, heartwarming. I didn't like it. I did like
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 11: that Sandra Lurkey was on at the end, and I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 11: liked all the Stephen Merritt stuff in this soundtrack. So
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 11: I will say that if this man has nothing going
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 11: for him, He has at least similar musical taste to mine.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 6: I was going to say that. I think, and you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: don't really get into it, like the end, they kind
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 6: of knock out a whole bunch of them, but I'm like,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: there is a really awesome soundtrack work there.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 12: It is him.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: If you can.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 7: Deal with some sort of quirky, heartwarming TV moments, there
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: are a.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: Couple of really good ones.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 6: Which, Dan in real life?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 12: Dan in real life, yeah.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 8: There are a.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 12: Couple of really good moments.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 11: Should we mention that you're eating pizza right now so
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 11: people don't worry?
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 6: It is the Thanksgiving episode.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 9: He's eating one of my muffins that are going to
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 9: be dry because I was trying to make it vegan
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: for Lucy, but.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 6: Then I didn't realize that, yeah. And I put whipped
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 6: cream all over the top.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 14: Now we know why Bo's family doesn't eat at his house.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we just had a bunch of donuts
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 9: before we got here.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 10: What about the title Pieces of April? I thought they
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: were all going to wind up eating them. It's a
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 10: sequel to Pieces.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 13: I can't relate to quirky, heartwarming movies about family because
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 13: in no universe do I want to reunite and have
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 13: a happy moment with my family.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 11: I just want them to stay away from me. Just
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 11: leave me alone.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 13: And that's my happy, heartwarming moment that my family did
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 13: not try to contact me. or get me presents, or
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 13: come over. That's my idea of heartwarming.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: We are dating drug dealers.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 10: Give it a couple years.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: I'm on the level where it's like, okay, in any
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 9: other time of the year, it's not socially acceptable to
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 9: try to make that attempt, but it's like, the holidays,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: it's socially acceptable to try, and you know, it usually fails,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: but it's like, it doesn't seem a tad out of place. Like,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 9: this is my angle.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: It is sort of a forced thing that we do
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 6: to ourselves like we're gonna enjoy this holiday like and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: he's almost saying that at that point outside the car
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 6: but like you do have those especially parents that are
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 6: like kids are being a brat and throwing a fit
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: and you're just like no we're gonna have a good
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: holiday and like so it does seem like that time
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 6: of year you make excuses and you try to force
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 6: this happy version of everything in there and it doesn't
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: always work that way i.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 14: I just want to know if while they were eating
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 14: anyone noticed how dirty the sink was I loved.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 11: Actually, that was my favorite part, was just how filthy
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 11: those apartments were.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: The apartment was, yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: And, like, the week-old pizza in the refrigerator. I was like,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 10: I'm not eating any of this stuff.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: Well, just that opening, like, scene of them making that
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: food look possibly the most disgusting most foods have ever looked.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 11: And I also felt like they were like, okay, Katie Holmes.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 11: Here's some stuff. You try to figure out what to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 11: do with these utensils and these vegetables. And it was
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 11: just like this starlet.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 9: Look at the potato. Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 11: She had no idea what she was doing.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: I've never made food before.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 11: That was her most realistic performance.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: She's like, where's craft services?
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: Just go get a bagel over there.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 14: I'm cool.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 9: There you go, Charlie.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 14: That Waldorf salad, if someone serves that to me ever,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 14: I might smack them.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: But the.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 9: Stupid bumper stickers on the fronts of doors aside... Like,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 9: as soon as they walk up, it's like, oh, look
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: at these bumper stickers. I know who's going to be.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 10: Behind this door.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 9: It's just like Nightmare Before Christmas.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 10: You opened up the Christmas door.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: You're going to go to Christmasland.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 9: That's kind of the way I felt with the bumper sticker.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 9: Everything else, though, about that building seemed very believable. Like,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 9: you know, here's this girl where she's really not holding
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: down a very good job, and she moves to New York,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 9: which is an expensive city to live in. And, you know,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 9: the first time she has someone over to her first place,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: she owns. I mean, it's utter squalor. But, you know,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: you're proud because it's your first place.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: And you're making your way as bad as it is. Actually,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: that is one of my favorite moments was the crazy
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: cat guy. But before we get to the crazy cat,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: like that speech about the mother, I'm like, oh, this
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: is great. And then, like, I know it's not going
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: to end like this. And it ends in a goofy,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: silly way. But I'm like, that lead into it for
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: me was kind of worth it. It was pretty fun.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 11: I didn't understand why she discounted him. I mean, he
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 11: had a functional stove.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: If you've been around somebody with cats, there's cat hair everywhere.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 11: It's a desperate situation.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 10: We didn't smell the smell.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: I've dealt with, and it's a family member who does
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 6: not realize that there's cat hair in the food that
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 6: they bring you. We won't name names. But yeah, she
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: will show up with, hey, here you go. And I'm like, oh,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 6: we're going to have to weed through this.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 10: I'm fine. Are you a cat heritarian?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: No, I just, I have filth everywhere in my home.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: But I try to keep fur out.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 12: Of the food.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 7: One Thanksgiving, my mom had, like, this stuffing in, like,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 7: a glass thing sitting on the stove and left the burner,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: the electric burner of the stove on. And so we're
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 7: just sitting there, and at some moment, the glass thing shatters.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 7: And it explodes, and the stuffing goes everywhere, and there's
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: shards of glass. And she's like, well, that's ruined it.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 10: You need a rabbit.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: And you thought to yourself, this is like a scene
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: out of a movie. A holiday movie where things go wacky.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 13: But it all works out in the end.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 11: Speaking of the end, those still photographs, what movie? Was
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 11: it To Serve With Love? I was trying to remember
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 11: what movie ends that way. Or maybe there's lots of
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 11: movies that end this way.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: It feels like a couple of them.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 11: With a series of photographs?
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 12: There are a lot.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 11: That's a thing.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 6: But, I mean, it at least fits in that the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: son was doing that the whole time. So I do, like, especially, like,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: the opening of the door photograph was kind of cool
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: because we do feel like we're switching to his perspective
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: for a second and we are, like, he is literally
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: taking these photographs to document for the mother. So I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: kind of like that moment. The end ones were a
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: little more cliché.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah, if you've seen Too Many Cooks, which has been
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: circulating online, that ends with a photo.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 10: More than once.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: That's about a family. An extended family.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 6: It's one of my favorite things.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 10: I like that guy. What's his name?
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 12: Gallagher?
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Something.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: Jim Gallagher.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 12: Who was the son?
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 6: That was someone in the cast.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: I think he's the son.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: He was not bad, actually.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: I ended up, like.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 10: He was a short-term 12.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 9: I don't feel like he had a lot to do
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 9: in it.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: But he becomes the only other one that's kind of likable. Like,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: the daughter is such an overachiever, and, like, so down
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: against again we're supposed to like april and she's so
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: anti april for some reason that we don't really even
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: know why other than like she's the older sister so
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: it's some sort of weird competition maybe but or.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 9: Maybe it's not necessarily it's a competition is once april
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 9: fucked up and it's like oh well it's on you
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 9: so you get the unrealistic expectations put all the pressure
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: on her resentment yeah could be.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 6: But we don't really get much of that too she's
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 6: and i've come to like her now she's yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 12: Just is.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know, the other black sheep in my family,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: she just turned 18, and my siblings will kind of
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: talk about her in ways that this felt kind of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: similar to. I didn't actually like her acting in this movie, though.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: I felt like, sorry, I felt like it was really,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: or kind of specific and contrived, but I.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 10: Get it at least.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: There was no depth to it, really. Like, you didn't
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: like her, and you're like, there's not really anything to like,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, at the end, they
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: have this sweet moment where you're like, oh, we're sisters
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: and we love each other. But I'm like, we didn't
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: get any sense of that the whole car ride up here.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's why I think they should have just ended
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 9: it with that initial photo. Like, when the rest of
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 9: the family shows up and you get more photos, I'm like, no.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: That's the only thing that, to me, they got greedy on.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: But I feel like, again, I almost bought that moment
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: of them. Like, I do feel like she needed her
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 6: big sister. Like, I feel like that moment was genuine.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: It just didn't fit with anything else they'd done. And
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 6: I wish we would have seen a little piece of that.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 6: I wish maybe she had a moment in the car
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 6: where she was like, where the hell is she? Like,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: I needed a big sister and she wasn't there for me.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: And like, if we saw something break in that like
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 6: facade that she's kind of putting up, I kind of
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 6: would have liked that because I feel like the moment
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: at the end almost would have been real if we
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: would have had some piece of that other. And the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: other part of the story.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 11: For me, I felt like that kind of character was
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 11: about how she was sort of the anti-April. And so
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 11: that was sort of how she built her identity, was
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 11: that she was the good alternative to April. And so
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 11: if April comes back into the picture in any way, shape,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 11: or form, then her entire world structure is threatened. Again,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 11: not something.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: No, it's not. But still, I would have liked to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: have seen a little bit of that come through. That
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: there was still something in there, too. fine redeeming about
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: her because she kind of doesn't come off that way.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: I just wanted to smack her the whole time.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah kind of but i think that's that's one of
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: my favorite moments in it and i think it is
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: sort of solidifying that feeling of what we're getting from
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: april is is especially the whole black sheep thing that
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: we're on now it's like that moment in the and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: of her in the stairwell and and again our worst
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: character is upstairs calling her a bad girl bad girl
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: But the moment when she says to herself, no, I'm not.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: And it's almost her telling herself. And that's why I
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 6: kind of got that feeling of her rebuilding her life.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 6: She's like, no, I'm not. And I'm not forced down
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: that road. I can do what I want to do.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: And I'm trying to do better. And I felt like
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 6: in that one scene, like that's the one time I
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: feel like you see her being like, I don't want
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: to be forced into that black sheep thing. I don't,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: you know, it's not written that I have to be
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: that way from here on out.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 9: And little niggling things. It was just me. In China,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 9: they know what Thanksgiving is. So if they're Chinese in America,
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 9: then they're going to know it.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: Is this a big thing to go to KFC? That's Japan,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 10: I believe.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: Or is it? I thought Japan had that. I think
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: China is just KFC.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 9: KFC is huge in China, and it's a filthy fucking lie, too.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: Because I walked in, and I looked up the menu,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 9: and I was like, Because, you know, I'm not going
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 9: over there to eat Western food, but I'm going in
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 9: for the novelty of what's different. There's no mashed potatoes
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 9: and gravy because they don't have, like, when you try
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 9: to explain gravy, they look at you like you're insane.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 9: It's like, well, you take the fat drippings from the
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 9: meat that you're cooking and then you, like, mix in,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 9: you know, some cornstarch or something and let it cook
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 9: and then you put it back on the meat.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: What's that stuff they put on Wosu guy?
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 10: They're like, what?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: I think all that stuff's been Americanized anyway now.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 9: Pizza Hut, though. Pizza Hut is a nice sit-down restaurant
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 9: over there. Like, you actually go in and a maitre d',
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: you know.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 12: Seats you in the menu.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: Like, it's upscale dining.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 12: The wonders of young. It's very weird.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 13: I once met a Chinese guy who said that in China,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 13: McDonald's delivers, because it's so expensive, even French fries are, like,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 13: something only, like, upper-middle-class people can afford. So if you're
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 13: going to get from McDonald's, You just want a small fry,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 13: they'll bring it to you.
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  Speaker 9: No, it's pretty cheap. The main reason that they actually
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 9: do the delivery is because you can eat so cheap
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: from street vendors. There's somebody selling food like every few feet.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: And so if they're going to compete with all the
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 9: street vendors, they compete by delivering.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 13: Maybe he was just really poor. He was talking about
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 13: how he was talking to his girlfriend and she was
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 13: eating dog. And he was like, if you eat dog again,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 13: I'm going to break up with you. She's like, Well,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 13: I'm going to have leftovers, so I guess this will
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 13: be our last conversation.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, that's like something out of an indie movie right there.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 11: And then she jumped on the back of a stranger's
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 11: motorcycle and drove off.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 9: I've done that before.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: And the dog's name was April.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 11: Not the dog part.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 10: Of course, that's disgusting.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 9: No, a friend I visited in Beijing, though, for him,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: he had the same delivery man from the McDonald's down
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 9: the way. and it was also his drug dealer. So, like,
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: it was the best of both worlds. The guy would
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 9: show up, and he would give him weed and junk food.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 14: I thought you were going to say bring him his
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 14: McDonald's and his diabetes medicine at the same time.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 6: We need to work on that.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 9: In this country.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: Why is it gross to eat dog but not cow?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 13: I don't think it is, actually. I mean, it's just
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 13: in America.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: It's just our mindset.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 10: It's not better or worse.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: They're both a bad thing.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 8: But we judge them for it.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 10: I know a horse is illegal in America.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 13: It is.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: I don't know, it's weird.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 13: I think of that, I mean, I eat meat, but
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 13: I think of that and it does seem really weird. Like,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 13: I have a dog, I can't imagine ever eating a dog. But,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 13: I mean, if I was in a different country, I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 13: probably wouldn't really have.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 9: I don't think it would be that good because they
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 9: aren't herbivorous and so just the quality of the meat's
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 9: not gonna be yeah that's what i've heard.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: It's not very good didn't you say your wife had
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 10: it and it wasn't very.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 14: Good no she was on her way to go to
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 14: a restaurant that served like a nice restaurant she was
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 14: in south korea and she was like okay i'm here
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 14: i may as well go and the woman that was
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 14: going to take her got sick, and then she.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 10: Had to fly out. Do you get to choose, like, lobsters?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: I don't think so.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 9: Of course, it might be the opposite, because, I mean,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 9: the Chinese, they actually, it's reversed. Like, we're all about
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: white meat here, and, you know, there's sort of the,
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 9: a lot of people don't like dark meat. It's flip-flopped.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 6: Speaking of which, where'd your puppy go? Notice he's hiding.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: Crazy bastards you're talking about.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 8: I mean, we already eat adorable animals here.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 10: We eat lamb.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: I think it's just disconnected in this country. If most
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: of the people that eat meat had to kill what
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: they eat, a lot of people would stop eating meat.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: I realize that. I acknowledge that.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 9: It's just the way we are.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 13: It's just ethnocentrism.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 6: The people that are. I think that is an adjustment
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 6: and It's whether or not we can find a good
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: way to back that off for all the people who
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: don't want to take responsibility for killing their own feet.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 12: When I was in.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 10: Third grade, for some reason, people came in and gave
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 10: us whale. And we ate whale.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 12: And it was horrible.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 9: This was the blubber? Or the actual.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and you couldn't quite chew it to where you could.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 9: This is when I really, really hope that Fred goes
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 9: into this long story. It's kind of like in the
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 9: opening of Moby Dick when you read for like ten
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 9: chapters about all the different things that blubber can be
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 9: used for.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 6: Continue your story, Ishmael.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 10: That's pretty much it.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: Apparently they just did that so that I would have
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 7: that story to tell for the rest of my life
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 7: that I ate quail.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 11: Sounds like a street team thing. When I was a child,
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 11: we went to a barbecue.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 13: My mom convinced me that what I'd eaten was snake,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 13: and I believed that. I believed that for, like, at
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 13: least until I was a late teenager, you know, probably
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 13: until I was 16. And I was like, remember they
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 13: were telling me what you had barbecued and ate snake?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 11: She goes, I was just kidding.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 10: I hate it when moms do that.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: And that's why you turned out this way, April. Your
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 6: mother was a jerk.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 10: My mom is a jerk.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: There's this really amazing short documentary that I've been trying
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: to get people to watch.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: It's called The Blood of the Beast.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: It's on the Criterion edition of this old French horror
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: movie called Eyes Without a Face, which is also really amazing.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 9: Is it by the same director then? George Fondreau.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: He made this before Eyes Without a Face.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: He just goes into the slaughterhouse and he films everything
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: and he juxtaposes it with images of the city and
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: it's all in black and white because he didn't want
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: it to be in color because it would turn people away.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: He wanted it to be aesthetically appealing, and the narration
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: is just very matter-of-fact. This is what they do. This
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: is what's going on.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 8: Meanwhile, baby cows are being led in, and their heads
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: are just being sawed off.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: It's a really incredible film, especially if you eat meat.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 8: People should know where it comes from.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 6: Recommendations, right?
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 9: Well, then it's odd that societies have odd taboos about
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 9: going back to the whole thing. It's like, I don't
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 9: I don't know that it is illegal to eat horse,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 9: but I mean, what do we do in Kentucky? We
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 9: raise them for racing so we can whip them to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 9: death and make them go fast. To me, it's just
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 9: the racing is almost as macabre as the eating. So
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 9: it's weird that we put odd.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure horse is illegal in the U.S.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 13: It is, because there was... I think it was the
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 13: Aldi food store. Their meat was tested, and it was
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 13: found to contain horse meat, and they got into a
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 13: lot of trouble.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 11: But there are horse slaughterhouses here, which is a byproduct
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 11: of the racing industry.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 9: This episode not sponsored by Aldi.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 8: It's not for consumption, though, is it?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 11: It could be exported.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 10: I mean, it's very plausible that we.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: You.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 10: Can't get lung for the haggis.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: That's why you can't make traditional haggis here, is you
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 7: can't get lung.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 14: Mm-hmm.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 12: Which, to me, without the lung, it's vegetarian anyway. I mean,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 12: what's the point?
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: I put lung in all my films.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 13: I think the reason that some things are taboo and
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 13: other things aren't, it's just like Western imperialism.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 6: A lot of it is.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 13: We just kind of decided what you do is wrong
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 13: because you're backwards and you're not cultured and what we
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 13: do is right because it just is.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 9: Merca is what that is.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 14: You know, when we were in South America, they had
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 14: guinea pigs. That's like, that's pretty standard in a lot
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 14: of countries, I think. And I mean, they have little
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 14: farms that raise them and everything. And so, um, some
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 14: locals were like, okay, we're going to go out and, um,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 14: we're going to have guinea pig tonight. And I'm like, well,
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 14: let's go ahead and try it since we're here. Um,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 14: it wasn't good. It, I mean, and I was like, okay,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 14: I can get past that.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 8: It's that it's guinea pig.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 14: It's not, I don't feel anything for the animal specifically,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 14: but it just, um, was not to my tastes at all.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 10: And I, you know, Even.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 14: In Cusco, the tapestry on the wall, huge mural of
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 14: the Last Supper, which I thought was right in front
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 14: of Jesus is bread and wine and a guinea pig.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 10: A roast guinea pig.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 14: Because if they were having it to them, if they
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 14: were having a big celebration, obviously guinea.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 8: Pig would have been there.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 9: Obviously.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it's... But it just was. I mean, to them it's,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 14: you know, like Thanksgiving kind of important dinner and it's not.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 10: And in the Garden of Eden, Eve eats a guinea pig. No,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 10: that would be potato if you were linking it to.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 9: Quince.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 11: But she's tempted by a guinea pig to do that.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 6: Guinea pigs are kind of shady.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 7: I was thinking it was the guinea pig of the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 7: tree of the fruit of knowledge.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 9: And everybody, when she's going to eat that guinea pig,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 9: you're going to hear it in the whole garden because
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 9: those things squeal really loud.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 7: Well, I think the nervous behavior of guinea pigs may
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 7: be related to them being guinea pigs.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 10: If you were a guinea pig... I think you're on
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 10: to something. I'm a guinea pig.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 8: Years and years ago.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 10: Here's how I worked a feeder supply, and I felt bad.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 9: For all the guinea pigs we kept in the back,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 9: you know, just breeding for, you know, sale. So I
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 9: was at the grocery, and I picked up apples, and
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: I just, like, sliced apples and given it to all
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 9: of them. And the next day, like, two-thirds of them
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 9: were dead. And then, you know, I never fessed up
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 9: to it, but the boss was right.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 12: They were like, some.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 9: Dumbass gave them apples. They got fucking cyanide in the seeds.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 9: And I was like, oh, I don't.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 6: The darndest thing, anyway. Look at those snakes.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 10: Don't feel bad. My daughter just called. I was trying
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 10: to be nice. I was like, he.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 23: She said she killed a guy in a bathroom the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 23: other day. She felt kind of bad about it. And
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 23: her boss said, I just heard a thump. Go check
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 23: the bathroom. And she assumed she meant the ladies' room.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 23: Because she's a girl... So she checked the ladies' room,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 23: and there was some, like.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 12: Woman in there. She said, I guess she bumped something.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 20: And then later, a guy came out of the men's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 20: room and said, are you aware you have a man
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 20: unconscious on the floor of the men's room? And I'm like, yeah,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 20: because I poke my head in there every so often.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 20: But it turned.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: Out, you know, how some people lead with the story
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 7: a little bigger than it.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 10: He probably isn't dead.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 12: He just, you know, got hit in his head.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 7: Hell down and it didn't exactly kill him it wasn't
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 7: I don't think what do you think it's manslaughter.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 6: Well sometimes sometimes the bathroom stories turn out to.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 9: Be legitimate because years ago at the theater just some
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 9: customer came out to where you know where the staff
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 9: and I were talking and said hey just so you
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 9: know some guy just walked in and he was complaining
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 9: about how he pooped his pants and he started taking
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 9: off clothes in the bathroom I was like, okay, so
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 9: I went.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 6: That sounds like that mall.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 9: And sure enough, it was very much the case. I opened,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 9: you know, there was no dialogue, just the door creaks
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 9: open as I open it. And there's this old man
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 9: and he just like freezes and he's standing naked from
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 9: the waist down, washing his underwear and pants in the sink.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 10: You know, it's like all this.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 9: Has gone down his leg. And he looked at me
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 9: and I looked at him and I just kind of
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 9: backed up and let the door shut because I didn't
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 9: know what else to do. And then, you know, I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 9: walked up to the staff and the staff were like,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 9: so what, is there some guy in there that has
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 9: crapped his pants? I said, seems so. Which point then, um,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 9: This guy comes around the corner, and he's leaving, but
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 9: he just put the underwear on while just stained and wet,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 9: and he's carrying the rest of the clothes, and it's
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 9: just like this slow old man shuffle, and he's looking
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 9: at us, and we're looking at him, and there's no dialogue.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 9: It is this black hole of sound that is so
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 9: quiet as he just kind of shuffles, and he's just
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: glancing at us, and eventually he just leaves. I mean,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 9: that's the Mid-City Mall for you.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 13: I've never felt more empathy in my life than I
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 13: do in this moment.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 10: I feel so bad.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 7: I'm thinking that might be like a record holder for longest,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 7: most authentic.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: Awkward pause.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 10: It was. I mean, I used to collect those. Like
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 10: what's the longest, most awkward pause you've ever seen?
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 9: I mean, that's a big lobby at the theater. It
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 9: takes a while to kind of make your way out. And, um,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 9: So it was, what movie was it? It was The
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 9: Terminal that he'd come to see. And so, you know.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: So when he actually lives in the airport is what
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 6: we found out.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 10: We were really tempted when people would.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 9: Come in, you know, they're always asking you. It's like,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 9: so how's this movie? So if they'd come up, it's like,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 9: I'm thinking about seeing The Terminal. I want to see it.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 9: It's like, you were tempted to say, it's so damn good,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 9: you'll shit your pants, ma'am.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 10: We slowly shuffled in.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 9: And, you know, it was all fun and laughs until
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 9: you realized that you had to go into the theater
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 9: and clean that seat.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 12: Yeah. I saw a long, awkward pause once.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 10: There was this couple. And the guy was clearly gay.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 10: And we all couldn't stand him because he would always.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 8: Like, be, uh.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 6: I think I was there for this moment.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 19: He was so rude to his wife. And then she
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 19: would just eat it up. He would be like, I
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 19: didn't think anyone would know that. And she'd go, oh, well,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 19: you're the one who knows.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 17: Oh, well, they were telling this story. He was telling
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 17: this story. This morning, she comes to the door. God,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 17: I'm almost saying names. She knocks on the door of
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 17: the bathroom and she says, which socks do you want
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 17: to wear? He's like, I'm naked in here.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: This is his wife.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 10: Of how many years? They have a kid. So anyway,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 10: we're all like.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: Until they leave. It was just like.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 6: We all heard that, right?
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 10: Just checking.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 6: We all heard that story.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 8: And then they leave.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 10: And I think somebody said.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: They have a grown kid.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 10: And then somebody else says... I think she was in
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 10: a barrel for that.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 13: I mean, I've had a roommate for like three weeks,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 13: and I'm already to the point where I sometimes forget
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 13: to close the bathroom door when I'm peeing.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 10: Already hit that part.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 9: If you want to pause for your collection, one that
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 9: comes to mind, this was years ago, we have to
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 9: do the science fair at our school, and I hate
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 9: it with a passion. And, you know, it's... This freshman,
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: I was trying to find out what all their topics were,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 9: and she told me a couple weeks earlier, and I'd
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 9: want to talk down about a student, but she wasn't
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 9: going to be the school valedictorian. So she told me
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 9: that she was going to solve the Bermuda Triangle for
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 9: her science fair project. That's a good project. And instantly
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  Speaker 9: I was intrigued. And so, you know, they were presenting
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  Speaker 9: to the class before they, you know, went on to
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  Speaker 9: the potential next round. And she goes up with a 10-gallon, like,
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  Speaker 9: aquarium and an empty 2-liter bottle of Mountain Dew. And
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  Speaker 9: she'd filled the tank about two-thirds of the way with water.
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  Speaker 9: And she sits the bottle on top of the water,
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  Speaker 9: and she's like, all right, y'all seen it floats, right?
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  Speaker 8: I'm like, uh-huh.
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  Speaker 10: She's like, all.
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  Speaker 9: Right, this Bermuda Triangle. She holds a bottle underneath the
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  Speaker 9: water until all the air goes out, and then it
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  Speaker 9: doesn't float. She goes, and there you go. And I said,
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  Speaker 9: I just asked the question, so how does that solve
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  Speaker 9: the Bermuda Triangle?
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 6: And she goes, well, you saw it sink, didn't you?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 9: Awkward pause.
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  Speaker 6: 45 minutes later.
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  Speaker 9: And finally, because I was trying to put my brain
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  Speaker 9: around it, finally I said, well, I guess my confusion
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  Speaker 9: will be cleared up when I read your report. And
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 9: she goes, oh, we were supposed to report this? And
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 9: she goes, ha, I done failed this.
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  Speaker 6: And she just sits down and leaves the tank and
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  Speaker 6: the bottle up there.
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  Speaker 10: No, what would be good if she had some other.
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  Speaker 14: Thing that she was solving like let's solve the existence
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  Speaker 14: of the yeti and she just had the same experiment
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  Speaker 14: that would have been like the next science so it.
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  Speaker 9: Was that day that i just thought it would be
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 9: so funny to have a sketch to where you know
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  Speaker 9: it's like the nobel prize committee is meeting going to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 9: give out the nobel prize in medicine and you know
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  Speaker 9: it's like the next person comes up and it's like
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 9: They have figured out this universal cure for cancer, for AIDS,
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  Speaker 9: for everything. And so they call this scientist out, and
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  Speaker 9: he comes out with the trifold. And he just sits
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  Speaker 9: in front of him. He's just very, you know, like
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 9: this adult is nervous like a 13-year-old kid. And the
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  Speaker 9: Nobel Prize committee is just like, well, how did you,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 9: what exactly do you explain this? And he just is
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  Speaker 9: reading off the trifold. My hypothesis was that I could
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 9: cure AIDS, and I did. And it's like, and finally,
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  Speaker 9: you know, the whole gag would have to be like
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  Speaker 9: at one point in time, one of the, the Nobel
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  Speaker 9: prize committee members just raised their hand. It's like, uh, Dr. Gasper,
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 9: did your parents help you with this?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 10: A little bit.
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  Speaker 7: There was a case where a guy was called by
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  Speaker 7: the committee and told that he had won in chemistry
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: and he had gone to college in chemistry. And, uh,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 7: He said, no, I think you've got the wrong person.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 7: And I said, no, it's... And he said, well, for
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: which of my works? And it was some chemistry thing,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 7: and he was.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: A carpet cleaner.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 10: He said, I'm a very good carpet cleaner.
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, he was called and awarded the chemistry.
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  Speaker 10: Have you seen.
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  Speaker 7: The collection of science fair projects assembled on the internets.
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  Speaker 10: Yes. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: There's a Photoshop Friday on somethingawful.com where they went in
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 9: and Photoshopped titles and stuff, and it's pretty damn hilarious.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, there are some real ones.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 9: I know, some real ones, too, that are just, yeah. So,
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  Speaker 9: pieces of April.
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  Speaker 6: So, Thanksgiving. Have we covered... Is there anything... I really
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 6: don't remember that I'd seen this before, so I don't know.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: This was trying to get a good feeling about it.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: I think I liked it more than I expected. I
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  Speaker 6: think I'd written it off as them just trying to
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  Speaker 6: mark it, because there really aren't... There's like, what, two
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: Thanksgiving movies? There aren't a ton of them, like there
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  Speaker 6: are Christmas.
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  Speaker 9: And when we got it at the theater back in
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 9: the day, it did no business. We got it the
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 9: Friday before Thanksgiving, and because it did.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you need a little more of a window. Like,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: that's pretty tight.
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  Speaker 9: Thematically, it's like perfect. It's like a Thanksgiving movie at Thanksgiving,
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  Speaker 9: but because it did no business opening weekend, it's like
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 9: we had it that Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 9: and it's like, well, we need to put in all
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 9: this new stuff on Wednesday, so it just went out,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 9: so it didn't even last a week on its run here.
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  Speaker 6: I really don't remember hearing much about it even at
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: the time, and only since then have I known, oh,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: it's one of the few Thanksgiving movies. So, yeah, I
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: think Again, it has its sillier, more cliche or caricatured moments,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: but I don't know. I think I take a lot
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: more from it than I expected going in. I think
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 6: it still does have some sort of heart that it's
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: trying to put out there, and it does it a
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: little ham-fistedly at moments, but it still has it and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: does a decent job overall.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 14: I just was halfway impressed by Sisko in his few
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 14: little scenes.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 10: He wasn't bad.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 13: I feel like Cisco is very underrated.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 11: I didn't know it was Cisco until the credits. I
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 11: feel like he disappeared into the role.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 6: Well, I, I actually said like, I remember at the
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: time they gave him like one of those like MTV
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 6: summer shows. Like they went to the beach and they
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 6: just like at one point, cause it had always been
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 6: one of their generic people. And one summer they just
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: handed him a show and they were like, here, host this.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: So that seems like, okay, that's going to go horrible.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 6: Just hand somebody a microphone and, was really good at.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 6: And the fact that we have 48 different talk shows
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: right now on television and he's not hosting is kind
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 6: of a shame because he was really surprisingly good at
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 6: being a host. Again, it's not like he was coasting
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: on his massive number of hits. He had one, so
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 6: it's like, it would have been nice to see him
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 6: mark McGrath it up and turn it into a host
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 6: of something.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 13: I know that the part in the thong song is
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 13: just a slowed down orchestra version of Eleanor Rigby, but
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 13: it's really beautiful. And I stand by that.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 3: I would recommend, just speaking of weird slow down stuff,
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: if you, you may already know this, but if you
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: go onto YouTube and look at Justin Bieber's You Smile
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: Slow Down 800 times, it's this really beautiful 30 minute long,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 3: very kind of, There's a whole.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 9: Bunch of those YouTube videos where stuff slowed down 800
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 9: or 1,000 times. I had it on.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 8: I had friends over, and they're like, this is really good.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: You're like, haha, Bieber. I also have a thing about
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 8: the original You Smile song.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: I smoked pot once and watched the video and decided
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: there was a subplot about how he killed this girl
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 3: in the video and hit her body in the basement
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: or in the alley of the theater that Theron, I
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: don't know, Justin Bieber.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 9: Might be true.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 12: I'm not down with it.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 9: See, if there was going to be an awkward pause, Brian,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 9: that's where we would have inserted it. No, we have
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 9: more than enough of our pauses.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 6: So, anything else to round this thing out? Any thankful
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 6: wishes you want to send on to the people's?
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 7: One time I was walking downtown near Christmas and somebody
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 7: came up to me out of the blue, just walked up,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 7: put a microphone in front of me and said, is
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 7: there anyone you want to wish happy holidays or Merry Christmas?
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 7: And my mind went blank and I was like, no, no, thanks.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 7: And then I thought they were going to air it.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 10: I walked away and I thought, oh, no.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 17: Not a lot of holiday cheer downtown this year.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 10: That's what I would add.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 6: And now we all know the real answer is at
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 6: any point when they come up and throw the microwave
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: in your face, just say, I like turtles.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 15: It's always a safe bet.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 6: Well, I will go along with you, Lucy. I did
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 6: like the music, most of which is done by that
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 6: one guy. What did we decide his name is?
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 11: Stephen Merritt.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: And he's responsible for two of the different bands that
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: make up most of that soundtrack.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 11: And many bands beyond that. Check out the Magnetic Fields,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: and the Sixth, and the Future Bible Heroes.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 6: That was two of the... That was the bulk of
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: the soundtrack.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 10: Does anybody remember the old Three Dog Nights song?
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 12: That's the title of the movie?
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 10: Okay, we've established that.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 11: Oh, so there is a reason for the title of
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 11: the movie.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's an old song.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 11: That makes a lot more sense.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 6: And does it tie in in any way that.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 12: I don't think.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 10: I don't remember it.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 7: I was trying to bring it to mind because I
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 7: remember hearing them sometimes when I was a kid, but
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 7: it did not come back.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 12: It doesn't refresh.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: Well, what I think worked, and again, they end the
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: movie very blatantly with this, but that one April Day song, again,
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: they obviously picked it for that reason, but at the
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 6: same time, I think it also has that line that
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: kind of works really well in it, which is like,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: I've always loved you in my way. So it's like,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: it really is kind of like not this sappy Hallmark
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: moment of like, oh, we love each other. It's like, look,
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 6: I fucked up. I'm fucked up. Like, everybody's messed up.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: We're trying to love each other as best we can.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 6: And I'm like, that's a family gathering right there. We
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: try not to kill each other. I've loved you in
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: the best way that I can over the years. Let's
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: not kill each other. I think that's a holiday sentiment
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 6: for all of us, really. And it's a really good song. Otherwise,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: that about does it. We will return next time. Thanks
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 6: for listening and happy Thanksgiving.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 5: So so One April day, we'll go miles away.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: One April day, we'll go miles away. And I'll turn
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: to you and I'll say I've always loved you in
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 4: my way I'll always love you in.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 5: My way Is there a cop still out there? What?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 5: Is there a cop still out there?
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 5: Go give him a muffin. Actually....
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: Do you have some electronics he can carry out on
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 6: the porch, Fred? That TV's not bolted down, right?
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 10: The director is.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 11: I would like to change my vote, though.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 13: This is probably kind of like a really offensive view,
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 13: but I imagine all Transylvanian's house is smelling like rotten meat.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know why.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 10: But not garlic.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 6: I think, yeah.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 8: Well, actually, yes.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 10: Like, garlic and, like, ranch. No, they can't have garlic.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 6: They're all the Empire.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 8: I'm just wondering how long it'll let me get away
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 8: with this.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 10: Torture.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 12: Torture.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 10: Puppy torture. Is this puppy allowed playful puppy nips?
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 9: Or is that... We're trying to get her.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 10: Not to do that. Okay, that's why I checked. Don't
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 10: encourage it.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: Her.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 10: Her. That sweater's not helping any.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 9: Joe.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 13: Her.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 10: But it's J-O. So that's why I always double check.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 9: So that way I.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 16: Don't encourage bad habits. At which point the police officer
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 16: comes in. He just sees us all scratching each other's ankles.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 16: I knew something was going on here. I had weird
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 16: feelings about it. Kind of like the Dudley weird feelings.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 10: So you had to fix your bike? Is that what
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 10: you're saying?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: I mean, sometimes when you're asleep, you'll wake up and
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 6: be like, pizza? Oh, damn it.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 10: Again.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 9: Well, that's why we got the puppy, though.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 10: We don't have to use place. It'll clean up after us.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 10: I would be a great television producer, by the way.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 10: I think I just realized my missus called.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 21: This is not unlike another famous Thanksgiving episode. Do you
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 21: remember the story of John Alden and Priscilla Mullins and
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 21: Captain Miles Standish? This isn't like that one at all.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 15: This episode is a production of Movie Meltdown, produced and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 15: edited by The Oddity Studios, with opening music performed by
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 15: The Empires. For more on how to sponsor or support
• 1:45:14
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