Latest / Podcast Championship Wrestling / Episode 72 2024 Slammy Awards!

Transcript

Episode 72 2024 Slammy Awards! · Podcast Championship Wrestling

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: W W and c W alumni look blue meaning and
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: you're listening to pc W.
• 0:07
  Speaker 2: The question is, oh you.
• 0:15
  Speaker 3: Let me talk to her.
• 0:18
  Speaker 4: I will give you a show like you have never
• 0:20
  Speaker 4: recovered stream the pot of life because I can't.
• 0:25
  Speaker 5: What do you guys want to talk about?
• 0:39
  Speaker 6: And the color red in a world.
• 0:41
  Speaker 7: With the black and.
• 0:42
  Speaker 8: White of world.
• 0:48
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the chack.
• 1:08
  Speaker 9: Up bad.
• 1:09
  Speaker 10: You've got a bad hold on whoa.
• 1:23
  Speaker 11: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, chilling Rolla's just
• 1:34
  Speaker 11: welcome back to another episode of pc W podcast Championship Wrestling.
• 1:38
  Speaker 9: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dried Chicken,
• 1:42
  Speaker 9: and it is a special fucking episode. Yes it is.
• 1:46
  Speaker 9: It is the Slammy Awards. We're always coming a little late,
• 1:50
  Speaker 9: but at least we come uh we uh. There's a
• 1:54
  Speaker 9: lot of things going on during the holidays. We don't
• 1:55
  Speaker 9: got time to set aside to watch or a lot
• 2:00
  Speaker 9: to rewatch a lot of shit from twenty twenty four
• 2:02
  Speaker 9: to give you this awards. It takes time and sometimes
• 2:06
  Speaker 9: a lot of these matches, promos, some of these awards
• 2:10
  Speaker 9: that are on here can even happen at the last minute,
• 2:13
  Speaker 9: all the way to the last minute of the year.
• 2:15
  Speaker 9: So that's why we can't just jump ahead and and
• 2:17
  Speaker 9: like December twenty fifth or twentieth or whatever, early in
• 2:20
  Speaker 9: December mid December, start these awards. We got a week,
• 2:24
  Speaker 9: let the dust clear and then do it. With that said,
• 2:29
  Speaker 9: let me bring in my co host. Here we go.
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: Oh so.
• 2:36
  Speaker 7: Hey, hey, it might have been telling you. It's just okay, okay,
• 2:49
  Speaker 7: dang for lack of dad luck.
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: Hey, it's on me now.
• 2:55
  Speaker 7: It's I don't get them all. I'm to get them all.
• 3:05
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I would you?
• 3:10
  Speaker 12: Oh Drea yo yo, what di do? PCW Crew Main
• 3:16
  Speaker 12: Event dre USO is now a podcast.
• 3:21
  Speaker 9: Oh I I like that ship. I like that ship
• 3:27
  Speaker 9: right there because you know what this I'll tell you
• 3:29
  Speaker 9: what with your new theme music. Man, it's got me
• 3:31
  Speaker 9: almost like Pat McAfee energy. I want to stand up,
• 3:35
  Speaker 9: you know, on my desk and start, you know, just
• 3:37
  Speaker 9: I just want to eat all over the place. I
• 3:39
  Speaker 9: want to eat all over the curtains. I want to
• 3:41
  Speaker 9: eat all over the laptop. I want to eat everywhere,
• 3:43
  Speaker 9: all over the soundboard, you know, just just all over
• 3:48
  Speaker 9: the place.
• 3:50
  Speaker 12: That's what y'all would have got last week had my
• 3:51
  Speaker 12: mic been working properly.
• 3:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but you came through the crowd and from a listener.
• 3:58
  Speaker 9: A listener came up to me in aproached me. Duayanne,
• 4:02
  Speaker 9: I know he's listening. He told me we played it
• 4:05
  Speaker 9: off grade. It's like he was dying. It worked, dude,
• 4:11
  Speaker 9: you can't through the crowd. It worked great first time
• 4:14
  Speaker 9: dropping that music. It worked. Uh, you know, because we're
• 4:19
  Speaker 9: a live pal, you know, we make the best of it.
• 4:21
  Speaker 9: But with that said, that said also in our commentary
• 4:27
  Speaker 9: booth here he.
• 4:29
  Speaker 13: Is m.
• 4:47
  Speaker 9: M m hm Doyle.
• 5:04
  Speaker 13: Oh it's me, It's me. It's a dyl And holy shit,
• 5:08
  Speaker 13: is it cold? Yeah?
• 5:10
  Speaker 9: It is absolutely cold here where I'm at and reading
• 5:14
  Speaker 9: PA basically like an hour from Doyle. I mean he
• 5:17
  Speaker 9: might be a few degrees colder. It's a e excuse me,
• 5:21
  Speaker 9: it's thirteen degrees right now, Doyle, dre check your temperatures.
• 5:25
  Speaker 14: What do you got?
• 5:26
  Speaker 15: You got me be I don't think we're seventeen, but
• 5:29
  Speaker 15: with the windshill, it feels like five.
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 5:32
  Speaker 12: I'm at twenty two degrees and it's starting to snow
• 5:35
  Speaker 12: right now, a little bit of a dusting. But were
• 5:38
  Speaker 12: apparently we're supposed to get more tonight, but unfortunately not
• 5:42
  Speaker 12: enough for me to not have to go to work tomorrow.
• 5:46
  Speaker 12: So basically, mother Data is just being a fucking tease.
• 5:49
  Speaker 9: That's how it was yesterday for me. I the snow
• 5:52
  Speaker 9: was bad enough that I did not go to work.
• 5:55
  Speaker 9: I was like, I want to stay home. I am
• 5:57
  Speaker 9: going to binge watch some stuff. I'm going to get
• 6:00
  Speaker 9: some podcast stuff done, watch some catch up on my wrestling. Yeah.
• 6:05
  Speaker 9: I got some stuff done and it was nice being
• 6:07
  Speaker 9: snowed in for once. That said, guys, we're here with
• 6:13
  Speaker 9: the Slammy Awards. This is our third Slammy Award. I
• 6:17
  Speaker 9: believe fucking crazy. I can wear the same suit three
• 6:21
  Speaker 9: years in a row. Dre If you were showing up
• 6:25
  Speaker 9: to the Slammy Awards, what kind of vehicle you're showing
• 6:29
  Speaker 9: up and how are you showing up? This is ww
• 6:31
  Speaker 9: Are you showing up in a limo? Are you showing
• 6:34
  Speaker 9: up in a flight of SUVs? Are you showing up
• 6:37
  Speaker 9: in a lowrider? Are you showing up in a helicopter?
• 6:40
  Speaker 9: How are you showing up to the Slammy Awards.
• 6:43
  Speaker 12: So is this under the premise that I'm like an
• 6:46
  Speaker 12: employee or like a superstar of WWE or a my
• 6:49
  Speaker 12: member of the media.
• 6:50
  Speaker 9: We are a commentary, so.
• 6:56
  Speaker 12: We'd commentary on the Slammy Awards. So I guess posts
• 7:00
  Speaker 12: we are more or less Huh. I'm showing up as
• 7:06
  Speaker 12: a host. I mean shit, that means almost celebrity. That
• 7:08
  Speaker 12: means I'm famous. I'm pulling up in a limo like
• 7:10
  Speaker 12: everybody else.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: What I'm gonna do? Be a host and drive my
• 7:14
  Speaker 3: damn self.
• 7:16
  Speaker 13: Man, I could see Michael Cole rolling up with a
• 7:19
  Speaker 13: bike with a basket on the front, you know.
• 7:25
  Speaker 3: I could see Michael Cole pulling up in like a
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: mini van?
• 7:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, nah, I see him like a PRIs. He
• 7:31
  Speaker 9: looks like a PRIs guy. Like he's very like preserved,
• 7:34
  Speaker 9: like he's just Oh, I get like forty five miles
• 7:37
  Speaker 9: to the gallon here. You know, you have no idea.
• 7:41
  Speaker 9: It's great for traveling between shows.
• 7:44
  Speaker 7: No.
• 7:44
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Now, now if I'm pulling up in my own
• 7:47
  Speaker 12: in a vehicle, not my own, but saying, assuming everybody's
• 7:51
  Speaker 12: driving themselves to the award show, then what kind of
• 7:54
  Speaker 12: vehicle would I pull up in?
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: I'm pulling up in a GTR yeah.
• 7:59
  Speaker 9: Like John Cena just busting through the glass, right, and
• 8:01
  Speaker 9: a Mustang Doyle. What are you showing up in how
• 8:06
  Speaker 9: are you getting to the Slammy Awards.
• 8:09
  Speaker 13: I think Dre had the idea right the first time.
• 8:12
  Speaker 13: I'm not driving myself.
• 8:16
  Speaker 15: I'm rolling up in the back of an escalator or something, right,
• 8:20
  Speaker 15: But the most important thing is I'm not driving.
• 8:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, And me personally, I would like to
• 8:31
  Speaker 9: do it the old fashioned way, the evolution style. You know.
• 8:37
  Speaker 9: I would show up in a limo and then just
• 8:40
  Speaker 9: tons of WW divas would walk out for me. I'd
• 8:45
  Speaker 9: be the last one out. All these women from the
• 8:47
  Speaker 9: roster would come out.
• 8:48
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 8:51
  Speaker 9: It would be new on old. It wouldn't be just
• 8:53
  Speaker 9: current wrestlers. You would have some some maybe some Hall
• 8:57
  Speaker 9: of Famer females on there. Maybe Tristratus step now there,
• 9:00
  Speaker 9: maybe lead a stepping out of there.
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe Nope, Nope, nope. I'm putting you on the spot.
• 9:06
  Speaker 12: You have to you have to pick one, well, you
• 9:08
  Speaker 12: have to pick one diva past or president to be
• 9:11
  Speaker 12: your date to the Slammy Awards.
• 9:13
  Speaker 15: Yo, all right, does it have Can it be if
• 9:17
  Speaker 15: you pick something, say you just random year. If you
• 9:19
  Speaker 15: pick someone from the year two thousand, are they in
• 9:21
  Speaker 15: their year two thousand form or are they in their
• 9:23
  Speaker 15: twenty twenty five form.
• 9:25
  Speaker 9: We would have to say twenty twenty five current.
• 9:28
  Speaker 12: Form, because some of it age is better than others.
• 9:32
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna say in their prime.
• 9:34
  Speaker 9: Oh okay, so so.
• 9:35
  Speaker 12: Fantasy book, you can pass the president in their prime?
• 9:40
  Speaker 9: Sonny is up for grabs.
• 9:41
  Speaker 12: That huh, right, Sonny and Missy hyat or on the table.
• 9:46
  Speaker 9: I mean it's for me, It's easy. It's got to
• 9:48
  Speaker 9: be your stratus. I mean, dude, geez, help me into
• 9:56
  Speaker 9: my puberty.
• 9:57
  Speaker 7: There.
• 9:57
  Speaker 9: I mean posters of her on my wall. I mean this, this
• 10:00
  Speaker 9: is the woman. This is this is what I was like.
• 10:03
  Speaker 9: This is what all women look like, right, the divas,
• 10:06
  Speaker 9: they're all women are hot like this, right? You know
• 10:10
  Speaker 9: I have for me, asked me, trist stratus in her prime?
• 10:13
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 10:14
  Speaker 9: You know what? You even in her prime? It's like
• 10:16
  Speaker 9: when but we're digging too deep. We're digging too deep here.
• 10:19
  Speaker 12: But yes, she has a pretty long prime. But DI
• 10:23
  Speaker 12: could argue now is still her prime?
• 10:25
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 10:26
  Speaker 9: Oh dude, absolutely, Uh yeah, let's I got a couple. Actually,
• 10:33
  Speaker 9: we're gonna do like the same awards we've had the
• 10:35
  Speaker 9: past two years. So if you've been listening or you've
• 10:39
  Speaker 9: gone back and listened, to previous Slammy Awards. It's gonna
• 10:42
  Speaker 9: be about the same thing. I'm gonna put them in
• 10:44
  Speaker 9: different orders, you know, move them around. There's no real
• 10:47
  Speaker 9: specific order, to be honest.
• 10:49
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: And if we're not even worried about who me and
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: Do would bring huh.
• 10:53
  Speaker 9: Oh, I'm sorry you guys. You guys, didn't you guys
• 10:57
  Speaker 9: didn't mention that you were bringing anybody. I mean I
• 11:00
  Speaker 9: mentioned it right off the bat. I was getting out
• 11:02
  Speaker 9: of a limbit full of women.
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I just stopped you from less than all of
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: them made.
• 11:06
  Speaker 9: You gave me the plus one past You're the one
• 11:12
  Speaker 9: who put your hand on my chest at the red
• 11:14
  Speaker 9: velvet roping like sir, plus one one one, go ahead
• 11:21
  Speaker 9: and dre the floor is yours. Who is it?
• 11:23
  Speaker 3: Then? All right, Pastor.
• 11:26
  Speaker 12: I would have gone with Trish, but since you already
• 11:28
  Speaker 12: picked her, I'll pick somebody else. I'm gonna go with
• 11:32
  Speaker 12: somebody present and somebody that I think I could have
• 11:39
  Speaker 12: fun with and sit back and probably just like talk
• 11:42
  Speaker 12: a lot of smack with. And somebody that think is
• 11:50
  Speaker 12: also probably short and not wouldn't be too much taller
• 11:53
  Speaker 12: than me.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: I'm going with Kayden Carter.
• 11:56
  Speaker 9: Oh good, good. That's a nice pick.
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: She would be.
• 12:00
  Speaker 12: I think she would be a fun She would be
• 12:02
  Speaker 12: a really fun person to sit with and just be
• 12:06
  Speaker 12: silly and act the ful and be like halfway paying
• 12:09
  Speaker 12: attention to the award show and halfway just cutting up.
• 12:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Doyle, come on, who you taking one? Who's your
• 12:17
  Speaker 9: date to the Slammy Awards.
• 12:19
  Speaker 15: Well, the reason I asked about whether it was the
• 12:22
  Speaker 15: present day version or the prime version, and we were
• 12:26
  Speaker 15: talking about it earlier in the discquad, I think I'd
• 12:29
  Speaker 15: have to go with page. And I mean like NXT
• 12:33
  Speaker 15: champion page, not twenty five plastic surgery disaster page.
• 12:40
  Speaker 12: No, yeah, you mean pale black hair, notebook paper, white page.
• 12:44
  Speaker 9: So what me and Dre would consider? You want stock,
• 12:47
  Speaker 9: you don't want aftermarket, right, exactly you wanted before the
• 12:53
  Speaker 9: car was modifying. Yes, I got you. Yeah, you know
• 12:57
  Speaker 9: sometimes they're just fine from factory chassis. Yeah, they're just
• 13:02
  Speaker 9: fine from factory, and then you get some douchebag boyfriend
• 13:05
  Speaker 9: who gets your hands on them, and some douchebag duty
• 13:08
  Speaker 9: and he puts all these aftermarket parts that weren't necessary,
• 13:11
  Speaker 9: and now you look at it like what happened to you?
• 13:13
  Speaker 9: Look what they've done in my car anyway.
• 13:16
  Speaker 13: A series of douchebags.
• 13:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah never d Yeah. So now her and Eva, Marie
• 13:24
  Speaker 9: and Nikki Bella all single right now?
• 13:27
  Speaker 13: Oh boy, Ma and me husbands and sons.
• 13:32
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and Living Morgan apparently still single too.
• 13:38
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's true. That is true. We should do
• 13:42
  Speaker 9: like a bracket of some kind of singles women bracket keeping,
• 13:47
  Speaker 9: taking all the women on their roster who they're dating.
• 13:51
  Speaker 9: All right, guys, we're going to I'll tell you what.
• 13:56
  Speaker 9: I spent a lot of time going through this because
• 14:01
  Speaker 9: sometimes you forget about the stuff that happens earlier in
• 14:04
  Speaker 9: the year. You have to go back and reread pay
• 14:07
  Speaker 9: per view recaps or hell, even listen to your old episodes. Uh,
• 14:12
  Speaker 9: it's just so much shit happens in one year, and
• 14:16
  Speaker 9: a lot of stuff happens, you know, a lot of
• 14:18
  Speaker 9: good stuff happens towards the end of the year. Then
• 14:20
  Speaker 9: you're like, oh, crap, I forgot about WrestleMania and I
• 14:22
  Speaker 9: forgot about the Rumble.
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: And.
• 14:25
  Speaker 9: It's just it's so much, so much to two and
• 14:28
  Speaker 9: we're gonna we're gonna dig into it here. Let's start
• 14:32
  Speaker 9: off with the first one, probably the hardest one for
• 14:35
  Speaker 9: me to do. So that's why I kind of want
• 14:37
  Speaker 9: to start it off the best non WWE performer of
• 14:42
  Speaker 9: the year. I'm basically somebody who's not on the main roster,
• 14:46
  Speaker 9: whether it's a match or a segment or or something
• 14:51
  Speaker 9: interacting with with WWE, with the w w E universe, Drey,
• 14:57
  Speaker 9: I'm actually gonna let you go first on this one.
• 15:00
  Speaker 12: Okay, now you say not Maine roster. That almost implies
• 15:04
  Speaker 12: that NXT would be eligible, but I read it as
• 15:08
  Speaker 12: completely outside of WWE, so that eliminated NXT for me
• 15:12
  Speaker 12: as well.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: So for me.
• 15:17
  Speaker 12: Again as a primary WWE watcher who just occasionally taps
• 15:22
  Speaker 12: in with the other promotions, I can only go based
• 15:25
  Speaker 12: upon who emerges who managed to break through the bubble
• 15:31
  Speaker 12: and make it onto my radar within the last year,
• 15:35
  Speaker 12: and among that I think it comes down to really
• 15:38
  Speaker 12: probably three people. That would be Jordan Grace, who burst
• 15:44
  Speaker 12: on the scene in my radar with her performance in
• 15:46
  Speaker 12: the Royal Rumble at the beginning of twenty twenty four,
• 15:49
  Speaker 12: and she really showed out and then also made appearances
• 15:52
  Speaker 12: in NXT and such. With the partnership that WWE had
• 15:56
  Speaker 12: with TNA. Then of course there's the one that everybody
• 16:00
  Speaker 12: leaves in it's to Joe Hendry, who just turned his
• 16:05
  Speaker 12: meme into massive success in the year. But my choice
• 16:11
  Speaker 12: for non WWE performer of the Year is probably the
• 16:14
  Speaker 12: one that I saw on people's radar, saw get talked
• 16:18
  Speaker 12: about for the most of this year and really had
• 16:22
  Speaker 12: tremendous success with I guess the reinvention of her character,
• 16:29
  Speaker 12: and that would be timeless to Tony Storm what she
• 16:32
  Speaker 12: did over in aaw with a gimmick that, for all
• 16:37
  Speaker 12: intents and purposes, should not work, playing some sort of
• 16:41
  Speaker 12: delusional Hollywood starlet existing in modern wrestling with you know,
• 16:47
  Speaker 12: the black and white vignettes and all of that almost
• 16:51
  Speaker 12: shades of like original gold Dusts to an extent, And
• 16:57
  Speaker 12: yet she made it work, and not only made it work,
• 17:00
  Speaker 12: like made it work in a way that propelled her
• 17:03
  Speaker 12: to the championship, propelled her to the top of their
• 17:06
  Speaker 12: women's division, where she reigned for most of the year.
• 17:09
  Speaker 12: So I mean, if you could take that and take
• 17:12
  Speaker 12: that type of gimmick and translate it to that type
• 17:14
  Speaker 12: of success, you.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Were really doing work.
• 17:17
  Speaker 12: You were probably doing some of the best character work
• 17:20
  Speaker 12: in the business in any promotion this year. So she
• 17:24
  Speaker 12: gets my vote for best nine WWE Performer of the Year.
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: Cool Man Doyle.
• 17:32
  Speaker 13: I had some honorable mentions and a runner up.
• 17:34
  Speaker 15: I did this for a couple other categories, and some
• 17:37
  Speaker 15: of them might have a winner, but for this one,
• 17:38
  Speaker 15: I have a bunch of honorable mentions, so I'll just.
• 17:40
  Speaker 13: Go to figure that the real quick.
• 17:42
  Speaker 15: I swear Strickland, Athena, Joe Hendry, Alex Hammerstone, Jordan Grace,
• 17:49
  Speaker 15: I mean, one of the greatest of all time, Brian Danielson,
• 17:53
  Speaker 15: of course, Kyle Fletcher, Zach Saber Junior, my runner up,
• 17:57
  Speaker 15: and who actually probably the other year would have won
• 18:02
  Speaker 15: except the person that a person I had as the
• 18:05
  Speaker 15: winner was one of my favorite performances of all time.
• 18:08
  Speaker 15: But will Osprey Man, I mean, if we were doing
• 18:11
  Speaker 15: the top ten matches of the year any promotion, he
• 18:14
  Speaker 15: might be all ten.
• 18:15
  Speaker 13: I mean, this guy's out of fucking on another planet.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 18:18
  Speaker 15: He's the best pro wrestler on the planet in my opinion,
• 18:23
  Speaker 15: just absolutely incredible. It's kind of thing you want to
• 18:27
  Speaker 15: show to a you know, a non wrestling fan and
• 18:30
  Speaker 15: go like, look, this is what wrestling could be, because
• 18:32
  Speaker 15: the things he can do are just so on another
• 18:35
  Speaker 15: level from everybody else, but the person.
• 18:37
  Speaker 13: Who I'm went in.
• 18:38
  Speaker 15: It's like Dre I got timeless Tony Storm probably the
• 18:42
  Speaker 15: opposite of what you would show a non fan because
• 18:45
  Speaker 15: they'd probably be so confused, you know.
• 18:49
  Speaker 13: But like I said, just one of the most entertaining runs.
• 18:53
  Speaker 15: I can remember off the top of my head in
• 18:56
  Speaker 15: any promotion. I mean, talk about putting it all together.
• 19:00
  Speaker 15: You know, obviously she's great in the ring.
• 19:02
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 19:02
  Speaker 15: You know, she held the aw women's championship for most
• 19:06
  Speaker 15: of the year, you know, defenses against Diana Parazzo, Thunder Rose,
• 19:10
  Speaker 15: Anna j Carlie Harley, Cameron Serena, deeb I'm gonna butcher this,
• 19:16
  Speaker 15: Marina Serikkawa. So the aforementioned Siyah Uh you know Tyer
• 19:21
  Speaker 15: Valkyrie she made uh Mariah May who's currently the champion,
• 19:27
  Speaker 15: who I guess was a big deal in Europe, but
• 19:30
  Speaker 15: you know, us North American audience has really never seen her,
• 19:34
  Speaker 15: and Tony made her in a star.
• 19:36
  Speaker 13: But I mean, yeah, but that's just the in ring stuff.
• 19:38
  Speaker 15: I mean, every promo, every vignette, every time she was
• 19:41
  Speaker 15: on commentary. It was all just mussy TV and it
• 19:44
  Speaker 15: served to advance advances, you know, fucking ridiculous. You know,
• 19:50
  Speaker 15: we should not work character, right, Uh. And it's just
• 19:54
  Speaker 15: so over the top, it's so funny. And uh, I
• 19:58
  Speaker 15: loved all those ridiculous old Hollywood references.
• 20:01
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 20:02
  Speaker 15: She'd been like, I wasn't a party with the Warner
• 20:04
  Speaker 15: Brothers last night, and you know whatever, it was just
• 20:06
  Speaker 15: so funny, it was so good. Yeah, I mean, and
• 20:12
  Speaker 15: now she's back with this this amnesia character where she
• 20:16
  Speaker 15: thinks she's a rookie and she has no remember, no
• 20:18
  Speaker 15: memory of being a three time champion, And.
• 20:21
  Speaker 13: So I'm just excited she might be the Winter next
• 20:23
  Speaker 13: year too. You know, I'm just excited.
• 20:27
  Speaker 15: She was just fucking spectacular this year, and he really
• 20:31
  Speaker 15: fucked up letting her go.
• 20:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 9: I have to agree with you guys, both of you
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: have to echo with with what you have to say,
• 20:38
  Speaker 9: because Dre like, I'm on the same page with you
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: all the way. Like Jordan Grace when she showed up
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: at the Rumble last year, that that was a big
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: deal for for us, like having the outsider, what wee
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: get certain outsider showing up, you know, on our turf,
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: on our brand, and she had a good standing with
• 21:01
  Speaker 9: the company, a good you know, great feed from the
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: from the fans, like we loved it when she showed up.
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: I mean the crowd loved it. She showed great potential,
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: Like she had a few matches with a few other
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: ww superstars on NXT and I think she just lost
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: her Women's TNA title and I don't I think her
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: contracts up.
• 21:26
  Speaker 13: I don't know.
• 21:27
  Speaker 12: That's been the Yeah, that's been the going talk. She
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: did drop it to. I forgot who hellse she dropped
• 21:32
  Speaker 12: it to, but she did drop it maybe a few
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: weeks ago, and she just had her last match at TNA.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: Genesis over the weekend.
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: So the word is that word on the street is
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: that she's done with TNA and is WWE bound and
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: could appear as early as this upcoming rumble in a
• 21:49
  Speaker 12: few weeks.
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and that would be awesome because it's like a
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: face that I now know and and for me, you know,
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: having somebody from a different company come across my radar
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: that makes me like intrigued enough to like look into
• 22:05
  Speaker 9: what they're doing, and and uh, you know, she was
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: one of them. I'm like, oh, man, like I want
• 22:11
  Speaker 9: to see her like in the w W and you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 9: within the past, like a year, we've had so much
• 22:19
  Speaker 9: more interaction with TNA, and from what I've read in
• 22:22
  Speaker 9: the past few weeks, it's going to be even more
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: a lot more interactional agreement. Yeah, yeah, a new agreement.
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: And before it's just like.
• 22:31
  Speaker 15: A handshake deal. And they've had handshake deals before. You know,
• 22:35
  Speaker 15: they've they've been over to Japan before. Hell, Vince was
• 22:39
  Speaker 15: floating ECW for a while, you know, but nothing was
• 22:42
  Speaker 15: ever official like this before.
• 22:45
  Speaker 13: So it's exciting. And I mean that, and you.
• 22:48
  Speaker 15: Know this what do they call it, the I D
• 22:50
  Speaker 15: Program where you know, they've got individual not necessarily propping
• 22:55
  Speaker 15: up promotions, but individual talent here and there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: Blah blah blah blah blah.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: It's an exciting time.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, because like now if she let's say she ends
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: up on NXT, right, I mean I think she's she
• 23:08
  Speaker 9: could go to the main roster. But let's say she
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: goes to NXT. So now they have these impact or
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: TEENA wrestlers coming over dan XT. It's like, oh, well,
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: Jordan Grace is now on her on our grass. You know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: she's on our team now, and now she's gonna be
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: facing and kind of like feels like defending ww's on her, Like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: you know, you're always rooting for your home team. That's
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: how it kind of feels like when you have these
• 23:34
  Speaker 9: wrestlers from other promotions come in. But yeah, I'm so
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: excited to see where her career goes if she shows
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: up at the Rumble, because she's definitely one that I'm
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: like hoping because you know, like the Women's Rumble, it's, uh,
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: it's kind of like everybody has to be in it
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: because they don't have no I don't think they I
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: don't even know if they have enough for a full
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: Women's Rumble. They have to basically have almost absolutely enough.
• 24:00
  Speaker 12: It would probably they would have to probably dig into
• 24:02
  Speaker 12: the NFC roster a bit more than they, yeah, would
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: normally do.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: But yeah, they got thirty women.
• 24:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, now that we have more and more women's titles,
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: it leads like an opening for certain women not to
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: be in the Rumble because they could be in a
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: title match during you know, the Rumble.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: But I doubt that.
• 24:26
  Speaker 14: Male.
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: Another one a male. I have to agree with Dragon
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: Joe Hendry. Dude, Like a couple months ago, I was like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: who the fuck is this guy? I saw his videos
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: and his promotions and his promos and I was say,
• 24:47
  Speaker 9: this guy's this guy something else. He's different, this guy
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: is different. And then I watched his entrance. Somebody told me, like,
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: you gotta watch this guy's entrance. All right, I let's
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: see what this is about. I watched it. Goddamn. The
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: music is catchy, right, music is catchy. He had he
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: has catchy music. He has ah. You know. Now with
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: with w W, a lot of our interests, you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: a thing we have either something to sing with or
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: we have uh, hand motions that we can use when
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: we do, like like Jay Usa, we have the yeating,
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: we have the hand motions.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: Uh, you gotta have something a hook, right, Joe Henry
• 25:32
  Speaker 9: has it. The waven of the arms, the heavy guitar
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: solo drop. You know, he's he's he's got the charisma.
• 25:39
  Speaker 13: And uh.
• 25:41
  Speaker 9: Now I've seen this guy, you know, come over. Was
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: on NXT for a little bit, uh as a crossover promotion,
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: and then you know, okay, now he's getting a little
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: bit bigger and bigger in TNA, and I believe I
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: forget his name. Dolph Ziggler was the current TEENA champion.
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: He just recently beat Dolf Ziggler Nicknam that's it, yep.
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: But yeah, so like that's that's all. Now, this guy
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: is the TENA champions, So the chances of him showing
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: up again in WW I feel like are a lot higher.
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: Now we didn't get like uh I believe like when
• 26:23
  Speaker 9: Moose was champion, we didn't get him over in WW.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: I believe Dolf didn't come back to WWS champion. But
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: maybe because I have we had in the past guys
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: the TNA World Tavyweight Champion ever show up on ww grounds.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Not as of yet, not yet that I didn't think of.
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: And I mean it kind of just understand why Dolph
• 26:50
  Speaker 12: would not, well why Nick it is called by his
• 26:52
  Speaker 12: proper name, but why Nick would not have shown up
• 26:55
  Speaker 12: for WWE, Because his whole point of going to TN
• 26:59
  Speaker 12: was to get away from from that, you know, so
• 27:02
  Speaker 12: he wants to do his thing now. So I understand
• 27:05
  Speaker 12: him not wanting to show up, and I can understand
• 27:07
  Speaker 12: it from WWE's perspective, you know, if their goal is
• 27:11
  Speaker 12: genuinely to showcase and TNA talent and those ones who
• 27:16
  Speaker 12: are and not just you know, have this deal with
• 27:19
  Speaker 12: TNA just so we can get our old WWE guys
• 27:22
  Speaker 12: back you know, then it makes sense for it's understandable
• 27:26
  Speaker 12: why they Joe Hendry and Jordan Grace and some others
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: were showcased, while the ex WWE guys who are currently
• 27:33
  Speaker 12: in TNA were just like, y'all just stay over there
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: and do y'all thing, and you know, elevate TNA that way.
• 27:39
  Speaker 9: Yep.
• 27:40
  Speaker 12: And I think that'll still probably remain the case for
• 27:43
  Speaker 12: the foreseeable future. Maybe some point down the line we
• 27:47
  Speaker 12: might get those XWWE cameos, but I don't think it's
• 27:50
  Speaker 12: something that's gonna happen immediately.
• 27:52
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: I do like that though, because for me who doesn't
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: watch TNA often, it's interesting you send me to new
• 28:03
  Speaker 9: but older TENA characters or superstars, you know, like I
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: didn't know who the fuck Joe who Hendry was. I
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: didn't know who Jordan Grace was. Uh, you know, I'm
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: starting to get to know these characters. So I'm glad
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: that former ww superstars are holding up ten A while
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: some of the you know, other teenage superstars are coming
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: over and we're getting to learn who they are, just
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: like you know, in NXT and what a place to
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: do it too, and it's n XT. Yeah, And then guys,
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: I I yeah. Also, you know over an AW. You
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: know Tony Storm well formerly notice Tony Storm. Uh, you know,
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: I don't watch too much AW, but I feel like
• 28:49
  Speaker 9: every time I come across anything AW, she was always
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: nine out of ten in the feed, like she was
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: just over over his ship this year, and anything I
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: would see male performance wise was just jabs at certain superstars.
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: It wasn't like, look at this awesome moment. It was
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: more like, oh my god, look look at Chris Jericho
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: without a shirt on. Like I'm just like, that's all
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: I say. These terrible things, but good things Tony Storm.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Every everything I see in my feet about her is good,
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: Like you guys said, with the reinvention of her character,
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: I mean she left WW and she was quite boring
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: when she left, Like her character was very bland, very boring,
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: kind of running on fumes. So when she got let go,
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: I was kind of worried about her going to you know, AW, like, oh,
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: sink or swim, you know, like she gonna make it here,
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: and damn does she make it better? She made it there?
• 29:52
  Speaker 9: Now is is do you guys? She's my last pick,
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: by the way, so I wanna kind of roll into
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: this this this questionnare for both of you. Do you think,
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: now that she has gone to AW kind of reinvented
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: herself become well, I think, now a bigger superstar than
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: she was. Do you feel like she would have that
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: popularity if she came back to WWE, like that fan base,
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: kind of like Cody Rhoades did when Cody left WWE,
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: he became a bigger star outside of ww before coming back.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: Do you think she could bring that fan base with her?
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: Do you think she would still have it?
• 30:35
  Speaker 13: Absolutely?
• 30:36
  Speaker 15: I mean, and look no further than Penta's debut the
• 30:39
  Speaker 15: other week. I mean, the audience knows what these people are.
• 30:43
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 30:43
  Speaker 15: People can say you can people can say nobody watches
• 30:46
  Speaker 15: AW or whatever, but obviously they do.
• 30:50
  Speaker 12: Yeah, somebody's watching, and people are aware. Even if you
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: aren't watching the ones who really break through, you're aware
• 30:56
  Speaker 12: of them. So could she could she come with the
• 31:00
  Speaker 12: same which, now let's keep this in perspective. Do I
• 31:06
  Speaker 12: think she would be as big a deal as Cody
• 31:08
  Speaker 12: Rose was?
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: No? Do I think she could be a bigger deal
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: than Pensa? Yes?
• 31:14
  Speaker 12: I think she falls somewhere in between those two. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 12: think because I think she has more star power than Pensa,
• 31:22
  Speaker 12: but not as much as Cody, because obviously, you know,
• 31:26
  Speaker 12: Cody's probably the biggest one they could have gotten, right,
• 31:30
  Speaker 12: absolutely best case scenario. There's also the fact that the
• 31:36
  Speaker 12: timeless gimmick is what got over so much. It's still
• 31:40
  Speaker 12: TV that and there's a certain level of risk with
• 31:43
  Speaker 12: what she's doing right now because she's abandoned the timeless
• 31:47
  Speaker 12: gimmick that worked so well for her and it's now
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: going with this new gimmick of having amnesia and such.
• 31:55
  Speaker 12: It's still TBD on how well that's gonna work out
• 31:58
  Speaker 12: for her, so she could potentially this could potentially fall flat,
• 32:03
  Speaker 12: and she could almost do some harm to her status
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: with this. So I think if it was if she
• 32:12
  Speaker 12: was still writing the timeless Tony Storm gimmick and trying
• 32:16
  Speaker 12: to bring that over to WW, then yes, absolutely there's
• 32:22
  Speaker 12: a certain level of risk involved in it, and it
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: can't be overlooked that while her character work has been phenomenal,
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: the n ring work, not saying that it's bad, but
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: still could use some work. I'm not saying that she's
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: you know, Jay Cargill levels of needing polish, but.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: She would probably.
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: She could probably benefit from still a little bit more
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: polish to her work, but the timeless Tony Storm gimmick
• 33:00
  Speaker 12: would absolutely be huge for to carry over to w
• 33:05
  Speaker 12: w E. What she's doing now is again to be
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: determined what kind of impact that will have on her
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: status and her star power.
• 33:16
  Speaker 14: Right mm hmmed what he said?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: He said?
• 33:29
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Oh, I didn't know if he had anything else
• 33:32
  Speaker 9: to add.
• 33:33
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I don't think should be timeless Tony Storm,
• 33:36
  Speaker 15: but I think she'd be over like Rover.
• 33:38
  Speaker 13: And can she she can she sustain it? One thing?
• 33:41
  Speaker 12: But yeah, now I'll say, if she can make this
• 33:45
  Speaker 12: amnesia gimmick happen, then yes, the name Tony Storm alone
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: carry it all the way.
• 33:51
  Speaker 13: I should maybe say I like her in ringwork a
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: little more than Drey Dies apparently. Yeah, I think she's great.
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: But yeah, no, again, I'm not saying that she's bad
• 33:59
  Speaker 12: and ring at all. She can work and perform in
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: the ring. But I've also I'm aware of some points
• 34:06
  Speaker 12: throughout the year where I think some matches that she
• 34:08
  Speaker 12: had were a little bit ridiculed, or she had some
• 34:11
  Speaker 12: noteworthy botches that kind of people dwelled on a bit.
• 34:15
  Speaker 12: So again, but every wrestler has botches as well. So
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: I'm not gonna sit here and say that, you know,
• 34:21
  Speaker 12: like I said, I'm not comparing her to Jay car
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: gil By any means when she came over.
• 34:25
  Speaker 9: Oh man, speaking of botches, dude, let's move on to
• 34:30
  Speaker 9: the Botch Award. Natoyle, did you say this one was
• 34:34
  Speaker 9: a little hard for you this year?
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: It was?
• 34:38
  Speaker 15: But uh only because there was no flop dollar this year,
• 34:43
  Speaker 15: and there was no Titus O'Neill tripping exactly.
• 34:47
  Speaker 13: There was a bunch of little things.
• 34:48
  Speaker 15: I mean, I felt like I was picking between five
• 34:51
  Speaker 15: or six like nitpicky.
• 34:53
  Speaker 13: You know, there was nothing great, you know, agreedious this year.
• 34:58
  Speaker 9: Okay, Well, I mean I have a couple of things.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: But let me let how did you start off? And
• 35:04
  Speaker 9: then maybe we can me and Drake and fill in
• 35:06
  Speaker 9: some gaps.
• 35:09
  Speaker 15: Okay, Well, a lot of people, a lot of folks
• 35:11
  Speaker 15: had trouble with the ropes.
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: Uh this year. I remember, Jadey, we just talked about,
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: uh fucking up a springboard. Uh.
• 35:19
  Speaker 15: Damian Priest, I remember trying to dive through the ropes
• 35:23
  Speaker 15: during a match he had with Drew, and he kind
• 35:26
  Speaker 15: of got caught up and he never really left the
• 35:28
  Speaker 15: ring and Drew sold it because he expected him to come,
• 35:31
  Speaker 15: So it just looked ridiculous.
• 35:33
  Speaker 13: Uh, of course, l A Knight.
• 35:36
  Speaker 15: Every fucking or half the times he tries to go
• 35:39
  Speaker 15: do that corner thing, he fox it up.
• 35:43
  Speaker 13: And Tongalowa was kind of a human botch machine.
• 35:46
  Speaker 15: He uh his debut, he was late breaking up a
• 35:50
  Speaker 15: pin in his debut.
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: He had that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 15: I think it was the Ko Randy versus Bloodline match
• 35:57
  Speaker 15: where he like he had like three tries sucking up
• 36:01
  Speaker 15: a low blow.
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: Well he makes a he makes a pinned attempt in
• 36:06
  Speaker 9: War Games in the very beginning.
• 36:07
  Speaker 15: Oh yeah, okay, and then just uh, what was it
• 36:13
  Speaker 15: Jamon Evans and Randy Orton the.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: The the rks up.
• 36:19
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 15: So I'm like, this is all kind of nitpicky things.
• 36:22
  Speaker 15: So I went with uh. Lilian Garcia on her return
• 36:26
  Speaker 15: to the company, announcing a match for the World Tag
• 36:30
  Speaker 15: Team Championship number one Container tournament.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, in the World Tag Team Championship number one.
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: First.
• 36:50
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 36:50
  Speaker 15: But I feel I feel like this was just choosing
• 36:52
  Speaker 15: between a bunch of minor flubs.
• 36:54
  Speaker 13: There wasn't anything crazy this year that I can remember.
• 36:57
  Speaker 13: Maybe one of you guys remember something else, Dre what
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: do you got.
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: Fill in some gaffs.
• 37:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat with Doyle.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I couldn't think of one.
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: There wasn't that one moment that rose to the top
• 37:11
  Speaker 12: above all others. Like you said, there wasn't a Flop
• 37:14
  Speaker 12: Dollar moment or the Titus O'Neill. It was just a
• 37:16
  Speaker 12: series of small ones that happened. People would talk about
• 37:20
  Speaker 12: it maybe before to day, and then that was it
• 37:23
  Speaker 12: moved on, just as easily forgotten as it was talked about.
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: So rather than picked one moment, I just kind of
• 37:29
  Speaker 12: gave my botch of the Year to the top rope
• 37:32
  Speaker 12: as a whole, because it seemed it just seemed to
• 37:34
  Speaker 12: catch everybody at some point this year.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Like you mentioned l A.
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: Knight, every time he messed up, he flopped over what
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: was it? Was it Damian Priest got his leg caught
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: up in it at SummerSlam?
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: Or was it? Or who was it that went over the.
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: Top rope and their leg got caught and they were
• 37:51
  Speaker 12: hanging upside down and had to be saved.
• 37:53
  Speaker 15: By the Andrew and Drew sold okay, as if he
• 37:57
  Speaker 15: had made contact.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, that's what it was. Priest and Drew.
• 38:01
  Speaker 12: Yeah, there was that moment. There was real Ripley. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 12: think she had a moment where she got caught. Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 12: like you mentioned j car Gill that clashes the Castle
• 38:13
  Speaker 12: EO Sky had a couple of them. But yeah, everybody,
• 38:16
  Speaker 12: almost everybody had some moment with a top rope this year.
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you know what, I'm gonna agree with you
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: the top rope. I have here a couple involving the
• 38:28
  Speaker 9: top rope.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I can give an honorable mention.
• 38:31
  Speaker 12: Although it's not technically a botch, it's damn near boschworthy.
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: I would give it to Nige, honorable mention to Nia Jackson,
• 38:39
  Speaker 12: her Hulk Hogan chair shots and the limited in the
• 38:43
  Speaker 12: rep board games.
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: But oh my god, those those deserve mentioned.
• 38:54
  Speaker 9: Uh dude, there was there was a Master Trick Williams
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: and Rich Holland on n x T and Trick got
• 39:00
  Speaker 9: his neck caught in the ropes crossed over. That was scary.
• 39:06
  Speaker 9: That was a scary moment.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: That one you should look up on YouTube if you
• 39:10
  Speaker 9: haven't seen it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 39:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he catches his neck right in the middle of
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: the rope. And I'd never seen anybody get caught in
• 39:16
  Speaker 9: the rope like that before Uh Carmelo Hayes. This coming
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: kind of involves with Carmelo Hayes and uh Cody Roodse.
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: We're both trying to do a springboard to each other
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: and they both missed each other. It's just, you know, just.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Nothing I think was off or something off.
• 39:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and uh bron Breaker, there was a time where
• 39:41
  Speaker 9: he was running the ropes and he caught his neck.
• 39:44
  Speaker 9: He went under the rope and I washed it in
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: slow motion. Guy's neck snap back. But you know his
• 39:51
  Speaker 9: neck is made of like pure thick ass muscle meat like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: so he was able to survive that. I think any
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: other human would have broke their damn neck of the
• 39:59
  Speaker 9: speed either running Gunder versus Randy Orton. The pin the
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: pin at King of the was a King of the
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: Rent when we didn't know who the true winner was. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:14
  Speaker 9: that was That was awful. That was awful.
• 40:17
  Speaker 15: Uh have a have a He was supposed to count,
• 40:22
  Speaker 15: he was supposed to kick out, but he didn't.
• 40:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, and the Reusch just held it. Yeah yeah, yeah, dude,
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: and I I too have a lot of tongaloa. It's
• 40:36
  Speaker 9: just like, I mean, you guys mentioned all of it
• 40:38
  Speaker 9: it's just like, yeah, just he his timing was off
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: for a lot of stuff. Him and the top rope
• 40:43
  Speaker 9: this year, and anytime Ellie Knight would touch that top rope,
• 40:46
  Speaker 9: it was a fifty to fifty chance he was gonna
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: make it. It's we talked about it a million times over.
• 40:51
  Speaker 9: If you can't do it, you maybe should stop doing it.
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: Just stop because you're just getting older and you're just
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: not getting to get You're not gonna get any better
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: at it. But yeah, I mean that's kind of the
• 41:02
  Speaker 9: stuff what I had for botches this year, the top rope,
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: the top rope wins. Uh, that's crazy. Alright. Moving on
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: swerve Swerve of the year. What is like a shocking moment,
• 41:20
  Speaker 9: a big swerve in a storyline? Maybe this year that
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: kind of oh my god, give you one of those
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: kind of moments I have, Uh really, I have three
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: here that I that I really liked. I did not
• 41:39
  Speaker 9: see John Cena's retirement coming, to be honest. Uh So
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: that kind of shocked me when that When that happened,
• 41:47
  Speaker 9: I was like, oh ship, John Cena's he's doing it,
• 41:52
  Speaker 9: and I know it just hit me a little harder
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: this year, all right, Well, last year when it happened.
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: Because I've seen Johnson in his career from beginning to end. Literally,
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: like there's not I mean we've all grown up and
• 42:04
  Speaker 9: seen wrestlers careers and stuff in and out. But John
• 42:08
  Speaker 9: Cena was there through and through unless he was injured.
• 42:11
  Speaker 9: And then once he you know, just you know, only
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: a few years he started acting, but like he was
• 42:17
  Speaker 9: still connected to the ww uh you know, with just
• 42:21
  Speaker 9: one finger, still touching that rope, still part of the company.
• 42:26
  Speaker 13: Well what is that? A match every calendar year for
• 42:28
  Speaker 13: the past twenty years.
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: But you know, stud an Undertaker and we were okay
• 42:34
  Speaker 9: with that for fucking ten years, right, seeing him once
• 42:37
  Speaker 9: a year, like bring him out of the freezer, let's
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: go do your thing, dance monkey and.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Then right, yeah, but you know what, Taker didn't have Hollywood.
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: Yeah that's true. True, Well, Taker didn't need Hollywood take
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: her head good contracts and he had well he's worked
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: also a lot longer than tape to a sina I
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: don't know, good with his money, make good money. Yeah yeah, dude, yeah,
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: it's probably rocking that suburban Commando fucking money. Uh oh god,
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: I lost my play assession. I moved my finger I
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: have so much crapper written here. Uh okay, okay, uh.
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: The blood line, the og blood line coming back together.
• 43:24
  Speaker 9: I didn't. I didn't think they were gonna get back
• 43:27
  Speaker 9: together after they broke up. I not the whole crew,
• 43:31
  Speaker 9: at least not involving Sammy. I mean, it was a
• 43:34
  Speaker 9: long storyline. It was a long storyline to come full
• 43:38
  Speaker 9: circle from being you know, heels to faces coming back
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: together to face, you know, the the new blood line.
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: That was a nice swerve. I didn't see that fully
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: coming this year into tuition.
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: I didn't.
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: I just thought it was just rumors we were going
• 43:53
  Speaker 9: to get the whole thing to play out. But it did,
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: and it moved a lot faster than I thought. It
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: kind of makes me feel like a like a Marvel movie,
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: Like you hear all these things about you know, Infinity
• 44:05
  Speaker 9: War and Endgame with the big you know ending is
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: gonna be to this big arcing storyline, and then you know,
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: before you know it, it's here. I mean, we're in it,
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: and for me, you guys might also have this first
• 44:25
  Speaker 9: place for me. My last one biggest swerve of the
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: was the New Day breaking up the fucking New Day.
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: God damn it. We the swerve was them dumping big E.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: It wasn't just the New Day turning heel. And we've
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: seen it. We've seen parts of it happening. We've seen
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: the cracks in the foundation. We thought, you know, Kofi
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: and Xavier Woods were going to split and that wasn't
• 44:58
  Speaker 9: the case. It swerved me hard and it fucking hurt
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: as a New Days man, Like Dre, We'll roll right
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: into you, man, what are some of your swerves for
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: twenty twenty four, the stuff that you did not see coming?
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: I see my biggest issue with this year as far
• 45:22
  Speaker 12: as swerves go, because I feel like wwe played it
• 45:25
  Speaker 12: pretty safe most of the year. There weren't too many
• 45:29
  Speaker 12: moments where they really had us going one way and
• 45:35
  Speaker 12: went left in any real major ways that totally shocked,
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: at least none that I could remember at this point.
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: Like realistically, I kind of wanted to give biggest swerve
• 45:47
  Speaker 12: of the year to uh, Tiffany Stratton's money in the
• 45:51
  Speaker 12: bank cash in, but now I had to remember that
• 45:52
  Speaker 12: happened this year, so I couldn't give it to that
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: because like that's probably the you know, maybe recency bias,
• 45:59
  Speaker 12: but that really happened to actually shocked me because they
• 46:02
  Speaker 12: actually because of the way they pulled it off. But
• 46:05
  Speaker 12: again that was twenty twenty five, so doesn't count. So
• 46:08
  Speaker 12: I had to think back a little bit more. Dom
• 46:14
  Speaker 12: turning on Rhea and siding with liv Morgan counts as
• 46:19
  Speaker 12: a swerve, but it wasn't something that really called me
• 46:23
  Speaker 12: off guard. It was one of the things I kind
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: of saw coming. I was like, you know, it was
• 46:27
  Speaker 12: dirty Dom, he gonna he gonna do the heal thing.
• 46:30
  Speaker 12: So and maybe that's just me personally. That's why I
• 46:33
  Speaker 12: didn't find too many swerves this year that really called
• 46:36
  Speaker 12: me off guard. But the one I would give it
• 46:39
  Speaker 12: to is the one that did kind of catch me,
• 46:42
  Speaker 12: and that's the same one you mentioned Xavier Woods and
• 46:45
  Speaker 12: Kofi Kingston turning on Biggie, because going into that segment,
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: we all thought we were about to see the New
• 46:51
  Speaker 12: Day break up, like that's what they had been teasing
• 46:54
  Speaker 12: us for the longest.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Was 're between those two.
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: We thought we were gonna see them and Biggie was
• 47:01
  Speaker 12: going to show up because obviously it's New Day is
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: ten years, We're gonna see Biggie show up, and that
• 47:05
  Speaker 12: it was gonna lead to Kofe and Xavier splitting and
• 47:08
  Speaker 12: Biggie not being able to save them, but instead you
• 47:13
  Speaker 12: get the moment of Kofee putting his hand on Biggie
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: sheds like whoa hold on? Where were you all the time?
• 47:22
  Speaker 12: And that was like oh shit. Everybody had that same reaction,
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: just that that oh shit reaction.
• 47:30
  Speaker 14: Yep.
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: So and from there it was like damn and it
• 47:36
  Speaker 12: really hit, like it really resonated with people, like folk
• 47:39
  Speaker 12: were affected by that moment, like, y'all that's so fucked up.
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's because for how many years, stray,
• 47:47
  Speaker 9: how many years have we heard people say, you guys
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: need to change your gimmick, you guys need to go here,
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: or you guys need to add another member or get
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: rid of this member. And they were always like, no,
• 47:58
  Speaker 9: the New Day is forever going to be the three
• 48:01
  Speaker 9: of us and we're always going to be the New Day.
• 48:04
  Speaker 9: And they stuck with that ship for years years, And
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: that's what made me believe it.
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: Is forgot that they started off his heels, Oh yeah,
• 48:13
  Speaker 12: absolutely and eventually got over.
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: Absolutely. But like the longevity of how long they've been
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: together and how tight of a group they had a
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: podcast together, right and they uh because I listened to
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: their podcast a few times. It was pretty funny. They
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: had a YouTube channel together, like, they did a lot
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: of stuff together. They earned a lot of merch together,
• 48:34
  Speaker 9: highest merch sellers. For a while. You couldn't go anywhere
• 48:38
  Speaker 9: about seeing fucking kids wearing those unicorns on their fucking heads,
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: those T shirts, the bootios, everything, you name it. Man,
• 48:45
  Speaker 9: And I understand why they kept them faces for so long,
• 48:48
  Speaker 9: kept them together for so long because how much money
• 48:51
  Speaker 9: did they make off of The New Day. So yes,
• 48:55
  Speaker 9: when this happened, it was shocking and it was I
• 49:00
  Speaker 9: was happy, but also depressed at the same time. I
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: was happy because I was like, I couldn't believe this
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: is happening, Like this is this is awesome. Ah, it's
• 49:11
  Speaker 9: spiced up the New Day because they were definitely getting
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: kind of stale they were.
• 49:16
  Speaker 14: It spiced him up definitely.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, they were definitely getting stale.
• 49:19
  Speaker 12: This has injected new energy into them in a way
• 49:23
  Speaker 12: that they haven't had in years.
• 49:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and you need to evolve if you want to
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: stay relevant in the company and knock it. You know,
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: the next time that they're dropping wrestlers and contracts, you
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: don't want to be on that list. You want to
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: you want to be relevant, you're gonna have to change
• 49:40
  Speaker 9: with the times. And uh, that's how people stand on
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: the roster for so goddamn long. There's people who I'm
• 49:47
  Speaker 9: just like, how how has someone like our truth been
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: on the roster for so long? It's because the man
• 49:55
  Speaker 9: a death's.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Or he's just that damn good at what he does.
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Uh Doyle, let's get let's get you
• 50:06
  Speaker 9: in on this.
• 50:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 50:08
  Speaker 13: I mean, this was another tough one for me too.
• 50:11
  Speaker 15: I think part of it is that I am freebasing
• 50:15
  Speaker 15: dirt sheets, so I'm always left on.
• 50:18
  Speaker 13: The rumors or whatever.
• 50:19
  Speaker 15: But I think one of the unfortunate side effects of
• 50:23
  Speaker 15: the long term storytelling that they do now, as opposed
• 50:27
  Speaker 15: to the kind of fly by the seat of their
• 50:29
  Speaker 15: pants booking they're traditionally done, is that you see these
• 50:33
  Speaker 15: things coming now, you know, like it's weeks, if not
• 50:36
  Speaker 15: months sometimes before somebody turns heel or somebody turns on
• 50:40
  Speaker 15: somebody else or whatever. So you know, I think you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 15: when Vincent's fuck it, let's have so and so, turn
• 50:45
  Speaker 15: on so and to tonight whatever, you know. And it
• 50:48
  Speaker 15: was surprising because there was no indication that there was
• 50:51
  Speaker 15: a problem there until all of a sudden there was.
• 50:55
  Speaker 15: So it's kind of hard to surprise anybody these days.
• 50:59
  Speaker 15: I did have as my winner of the New Day.
• 51:01
  Speaker 15: I don't know, there's a whole lot more we need.
• 51:03
  Speaker 13: To say about that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 15: The only thing I'll mention, though, is I had to
• 51:07
  Speaker 15: runner up that neither of you guys mentioned, which was
• 51:12
  Speaker 15: uh aj styles in the in the in the classic
• 51:16
  Speaker 15: style of Mark Henry before him, faking retirement and turn
• 51:19
  Speaker 15: on cony rhads.
• 51:20
  Speaker 13: Was pretty good.
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: That was pretty good. I recall that. Damn yeah, uh yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: clearly the New Day wins it here. You know what, though, Doyle,
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: You're right though, like now, now, if we would have
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: done this I slammy Awards from like two thousand and two,
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: you know, this would be vastly different because we didn't. Yeah,
• 51:43
  Speaker 9: you're right, dude, the Dirtty's, we didn't have spoilers. We
• 51:45
  Speaker 9: didn't know, you know, people didn't break kve fave, we didn't.
• 51:48
  Speaker 13: Know, we didn't have any dint know anybody's contract status.
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: So exactly, you know, if.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: You knew where to look, you could find some of
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: that information.
• 51:58
  Speaker 12: If you knew where to look, there was there was
• 52:00
  Speaker 12: definitely dirt sheets on it, and it just wasn't as
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: widespread now, like we didn't have social media facilitating and
• 52:05
  Speaker 12: stuff like that. But I do remember, like in two
• 52:08
  Speaker 12: thousand and two, vividly knowing that nWo was going to
• 52:12
  Speaker 12: show up at nowhere about before they did. That was
• 52:16
  Speaker 12: like the worst kept secret in wrestling.
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: All right, tell me, each of you, tell me one
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: if you if you remember one dirt sheet website that
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: you got your information from long before. So yeah, yeah, right,
• 52:31
  Speaker 9: dig deep, you know mine it was. It was a
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: website called Raja dot com r j a h dot com,
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: Raja dot com and they always had a bunch of
• 52:43
  Speaker 9: wrestling rumors. They would always post SmackDown and raw results
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: and they were always very very, if not damn near accurate,
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: And that that's where I got all my dirt sheets
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: back back in the day.
• 52:59
  Speaker 12: I do not remember my website that I used to
• 53:02
  Speaker 12: go to for shit, damn. It was something of it
• 53:06
  Speaker 12: was something of wrestling, I believe, but I can't remember
• 53:10
  Speaker 12: it for shit. But yeah, I used to live on
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: that website.
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's how I was on that Roger dot com website.
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: I was on there every fucking day. And I would
• 53:19
  Speaker 9: tell like, you know, listener to the show Ron. We'd
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: be on the bus and I'd be like, yo, this
• 53:24
  Speaker 9: is why I heard's happened. So he's like, fuck you man,
• 53:27
  Speaker 9: that's not happened. I'm like, dude, I read it. It
• 53:29
  Speaker 9: could happen. So it came to the point where I
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: would just like I would wait and hold on to
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: certain news. I'd be like, I don't know if I
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: trust this news, but if I was really certain on
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: some news, then I'd start like yo, so, uh, we
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: think was saying the chance of Stone Cold coming back tonight.
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: He's like, oh, I don't think he's coming back. Oh yeah, watch,
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: well give me.
• 53:50
  Speaker 15: Well here's something that didn't exist back then, which is like, oh,
• 53:53
  Speaker 15: you don't think stone Cold's coming back tonight? Well, why
• 53:55
  Speaker 15: is he posting on his Instagram from Louisiana? From where
• 54:01
  Speaker 15: tonight or whatever?
• 54:02
  Speaker 12: This random persons social media post Stone Hall walking through
• 54:05
  Speaker 12: the airport in Dallas. Yeah, exactly, ross happens to be
• 54:09
  Speaker 12: in Dallas. Like, no, you had to hit that from
• 54:11
  Speaker 12: the dirt sheet.
• 54:12
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah. Instead, you know, back when I was fourteen,
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: It's like, nah, dude, I heard it from this fourteen
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: year old who looks it up on the internet. That's
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: school today. Yeah, that's that's whore I heard it from.
• 54:21
  Speaker 12: Oh okay, yeah, I don't remember that website, but that
• 54:24
  Speaker 12: was the one thing I remember most vividly was those
• 54:27
  Speaker 12: nWo rumors that were going on for like months beforehand,
• 54:31
  Speaker 12: like nwo's coming, in Wo's coming, there's that's the planet,
• 54:35
  Speaker 12: and Rock versus hoging for wrestlming the eighteen.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: That's that's the working plan. That's the thing. And then
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: sure enough and no way out happens in WO. There
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: it is. Yep, they're moving forward, Rock versus Hogan.
• 54:45
  Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, okay, that's cool. We'll see how it happens.
• 54:48
  Speaker 12: And then that raw happens in Chicago.
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, let's go.
• 54:54
  Speaker 9: It always feels good, too, right, It always feels good
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: when the news lines up and it's something that you like,
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: and then it happens and you just feel like this
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: big sigh of relief because ah, yes, it kind of
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: went the way I wanted it to. It's when you
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: read the rumors and you're like, fuck, man, are they
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: really gonna put the title in gender mahull, No way,
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: there's no way they're gonna let him beat Randy or
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: In four times in a row, no way. And it happens,
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: and you're like, fuck, they're doing it. They're they're fucking
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: doing it again again every pay per view. Gee, why
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: is his title run so long? Like? Yeah, sometimes they hurt?
• 55:39
  Speaker 14: Oh my god.
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: All right, speaking of the New Day turning heels, let's
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: go into the biggest heel face turns of this year. Now,
• 55:49
  Speaker 9: that's hard to pick just one guy, So I have
• 55:53
  Speaker 9: a couple because you can't just pick one person, right obviously,
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: big one right off the bat is a New Day right,
• 56:04
  Speaker 9: huge heel turned. We saw it in the works, but
• 56:07
  Speaker 9: it's the way the heel turn went, the way it went.
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: Another one I have is d I y the slow.
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: I want to be a face, I want to be heel.
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: I haven't really seen that quite often with the tag team,
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: where the one guy wants to be the face and
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: the one guy wants to be healed, but then they
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: end up both turning heels and achieving the tag titles
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: in the same night, same chess move. Kevin Owens turning
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: heel this year, I mean, come on, Kevin Owens, this
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: this might have been the best convincing Kevin Owens that
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: I've seen in years of Okay, I don't think he's
• 56:49
  Speaker 9: gonna turn heel. I mean he he basically tag team
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: with the Viper, the guy who turns heel on almost
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: all his partners. If fucking Riddle was stuck on round
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: a little bit longer, he would have turned the heel
• 57:02
  Speaker 9: on his ass. But you know, Ko notorious for turning
• 57:05
  Speaker 9: heel on everybody. But this time, he fucking had me convinced.
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: And then when they did it, they did it as
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: like a security camera, social media type only type of deal,
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: so it didn't happen during live raw or SmackDown event,
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: so it was done very differently. Chad Gable, he was
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: running and trying to chase the Intercontinental title to the
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: point where the man fucking snapped. He dumped the Alpha Academy,
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: dumped the Maxine Dupe, dumped Otis and poor Tazawa, dumped
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: them all and then formed Alpha Academy full heel, dirty
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: dom how probably the best heel on my list of heels.
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: The man went from heel to super heel like he
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: dumped his his girl Rea. I mean, guys, who would
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: you dump Ria? Ripley? For it right you're dating Rea?
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: Who would you dump her for it?
• 58:08
  Speaker 13: Right?
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: Live Morgan Jesus Don went from Hel to Superhel. I
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: loved it, loved it, got so much heat. And the
• 58:20
  Speaker 9: last person I have for heel turn the Rock. We
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: haven't seen the rock. It's a heel in almost like
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: twenty years, guys. It's been a long time since we've
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: seen He'll Rock. And I'll tell you what, I've always
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: loved the heel Rock, the rock always shitting on the crowd.
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: I was there, he was shitting Vince calmed down. I
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: know you're listening. He was shitting on me verbally, verbally,
• 58:47
  Speaker 9: you know, he wasn't actually shitting on me, but he
• 58:50
  Speaker 9: was calling us pieces of trash and stuff. And we
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: were just eating it up, you know, us Philly guys.
• 58:54
  Speaker 9: We were just eating it up. We were laughing. It
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: was great. But him just being a heel was great.
• 59:00
  Speaker 9: I loved it. I enjoyed every second of it. And
• 59:04
  Speaker 9: then for the face, I just have one. I just
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: have one for face. My favorite face turn of the
• 59:12
  Speaker 9: year has to be the og Bloodline. I mean, we're
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: talking a group of guys who, within that four years time,
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: they were the most hated people on the roster. They
• 59:29
  Speaker 9: were just running rampant through everybody, and we came full circle.
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: These guys held all the gold, they broke, all the
• 59:39
  Speaker 9: records they sold, all the merch they had all the catchphrases,
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: all the moments they have had been in all the
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: main events, all the spotlights. They were hated. They were
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: a heel super heels, and then within the same year
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: a few months removed all of them, except for one solo.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 9: All were faces. They all stood and were now eating
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: with Jimmy Uso. Sammy Zain is still popular as ever,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: Jimmy Usso is now fully faced, and Roman reigns. Dude,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: this guy went full circle. This guy didn't have many
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: matches this year last year, and he went from superhel
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, dude, he was hated. He beat everybody there
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 9: was put in front of him. I'm not going to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 9: go through the list because everybody is on that list.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: And then now he's the most over guy without the title,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: He's the most overfaced without the title. I mean, these
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: are just my opinions. I want to hear what you
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 9: have to say, Dre, and then Doyle go ahead.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: So yeah, my.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 12: Heel slash face Turn of the Year was someone you
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 12: already mentioned, and I was Kevin Owens. And the reason
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 12: why I gave it to him is because one the
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: way in which it happened, it wasn't something that happened
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 12: on Raw or SmackDown or pla pl in front of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 12: the whole audience in the world to see. They took
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 12: a different approach and to let it happen in a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 12: basically viral social media moment, like because what was it
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 12: right after?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: Oh god was it? Was it? Bad Blood?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 12: It was one of the fall PL's that happened right
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 12: after where the show was over, everybody's thinking I were
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 12: done for the night, talk about the show, YadA, YadA,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 12: and then all of a sudden, this clip just starts
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 12: going around on social media like Yo, Kevin Owens beat
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 12: the shit out of Cody backstage. And they didn't do
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 12: it in a way where it's like, wwe camera caught
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 12: it and we're gonna upload it. It was like, no,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 12: it looked like just random people who you would see
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 12: after any show, trying to hang out by the exits
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 12: where the stars are leaving, just trying to get a
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 12: glimpse of somebody running out the building, which or going
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 12: to their vehicle, and they just happened to catch Cody
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 12: and Ko and Ko beat it out of him by
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 12: his bus. So it looked as organically scripted as possible.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 12: It looked it looked as natural as possible for something
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 12: that was obviously scripted, So bad props to them for that.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 12: And what gives what to me gives him the edge
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 12: over other turns is we've seen what he's done with
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 12: it since then, and we've seen Kevin oha Is doing
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 12: some of his best heel work since then with the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 12: Delusional Champion and walking around with the towards the end
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 12: of the year with the World Heavyweight UH with the
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 12: winged Eagle belt and such and the pile driver he
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 12: gave to Cody and the pile driver gave the to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 12: Randy Yorton. Like, so we've seen the fruits of his turn,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 12: whereas some other people it's either been too.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Short or it's happened for us.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 12: To really see it fully develop and reach its you know,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: it's its peak, or they just haven't done much with
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 12: them at all, or you know, unfortunately.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: For the d I Y.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 12: Yeah, they did have a The moment itself was pretty
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 12: good given that it happened spontaneously in the midst of
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 12: a match and results of in the winning the titles.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: But I think they just kind of suffered just from.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 9: A whole overall.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 12: Lackluster year as a whole, just for tag teams in general.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 12: I think it kind of hurts them. But yeah, for me,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 12: I gave it to Kevin Owens this year.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: Awesome, awesome Doyle.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean, I think the winner is the New Day, right,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 15: but since we already gave them an award, we'll go
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 15: to somebody else. The only one that I don't think
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 15: that I had written down that two guys mentioned or
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 15: didn't mention, uh, would be.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 13: Bailey finally uh.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 15: Turning or damage control turning on Bailey, whichever you want
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 15: to call it.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 15: And that was only cool because, uh, the execution wasn't great,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 15: but uh, I did think it was cool that, like, oh,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 15: suddenly Bailey knows Japanese and she's heard all you guys
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 15: have said this whole time. Uh, and then they get
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 15: her over in the corner and what she's got a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 15: pipe hidden, which was kind of cool. You know you
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 15: don't see that, you know she was ready for it.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 13: Uh. But my winner, we already said it. But it's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 13: got to be Chad Gable turning on Sammy's ain.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 15: You know, Gable had been leaning towards the dark side
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 15: for a couple of weeks leading up to that. Uh,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 15: but you know he attacked Sammy's ain after Sammy's ain
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 15: showed incredible what Drey would probably call after appropriations sportsmanship. Uh,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 15: in Sammy's hometown while he's literally hugging his wife. And
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 15: on top of that, just a few weeks earlier, we
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 15: saw Gable's family ringside reacting to his loss to Gunther.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 15: So he knows how traumatic it is inflicting this on
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 15: Sammy's family in the front row.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 13: And yeah, so it was just diabolical stuff. Uh. And
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 13: and Chad Gable, I think was my favorite turn of
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 13: the year.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: How could I have forgotten about that moment? God?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 12: I forgot how much I loved that fucking moment when
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 12: it happened.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: God. Maybe because I didn't view it as a heel turn.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I just thowt his justice.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 9: I think this year, this year already nominee, already Tourney Hill.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 9: He is that why he got booted.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 13: He's been getting booed for years. Really wasn't.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 12: Well hold on here, you can nominate that for the year,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 12: you can nominate have the biggest swerve of the area
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 12: in terms of Hulk Hogan actually finally realizing that people
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 12: don't like him. Yeah, maybe that was a swerve for him.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 9: That's fucking funny. All right, Let's let's move on to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 9: break out star of the year. Who has shown up
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 9: on the roster new fresh. We're not talking coming back
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: from an injury. We're talking, you know, either call up
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 9: from NXT or somebody just completely new on the roster.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 9: You know, it doesn't have to be you know, who's
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 9: won a title, the most titles or something. It's just
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: who's momentum in their career has really moved. Whose needle
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 9: has moved.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 14: For me?
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 9: I have I have four.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: I feel like we all have the same answer.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: We might, we might, we might, we might. I have
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 9: four on.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 12: Different but I think there's a clear and obvious answer.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 9: But go ahead, Okay, these are my runner ups for female.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 9: I have Jade Cargol. I think she would have probably
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 9: been first if it wasn't for her injury to set
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 9: her back. I know it wasn't that long, but still
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 9: I think that injury definitely set her back. A bit,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 9: but still from like moments she got in from the
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 9: rumble to she went right to where we wanted her
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: to go, tag team partner with Bianca, right to the
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 9: tag titles. It was like fucking awesome. It was like
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 9: exactly the way I would have wanted it to go.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 9: It could have gone any better. Male runner up, bron Breaker.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 9: I mean, this guy, he's he runs twenty three miles
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 9: an hour, but he's running in the right direction, straight
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 9: to the fucking top. I mean this guy is now
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 9: on off Icy Champion. I think now he's like two
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 9: time Icy champ and just literally running through people. Uh
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: they're they're you know, moving him right to the top.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 9: Whether you like him or not, I could see him
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: being our next Goldberg slash brock Lesner guy or next
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 9: big guy who runs through people. If there was ever
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: a streak to happen again, brown Breaker would probably hold
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 9: it now for who I think breakout starts of the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 9: year for the males, Jacob fat too. Man. When this
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: guy showed up on the fucking roster, uh, you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: catches my eye, catches my attention. I was intrigued as
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 9: shit from beginning, and I'm still intrigued I think he
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 9: had a slight injury this year, if I believe, uh maybe,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 9: but it still didn't, you know, stop him. I believe
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 9: he was also one half as a tag team champion.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 9: I don't know if that was a where they call
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: it the freebird rule or did we have two true
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 9: tag champs in the blood line. But still the guy
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 9: comes to the main roster. Out of all the guys
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: who have entered the new blood line, he's the one
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: who really caught my eye. And if I think since
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 9: he's been on the roster, if there's anybody we want
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 9: to see turn, it's him. I mean, he's he's a heel,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: but we want to see him turn further heel. We
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 9: want to see him turn on solo. Whether it's a
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 9: heel or a face turn, but we want to see
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: that match him versus solo. And he's he hasn't even
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 9: been here a full year, and that's already what I
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 9: want to see. You know, this man hasn't even been
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 9: in his first Royal Rumble yet. This man hasn't I believe,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: hasn't been in an elimination chamber yet. I come on,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 9: this guy has so much cool shit can do with
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: with Jacob fi too. You know, I just see him
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 9: going far in this company. You know, hasn't held a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 9: singles title yet, he doesn't need it. He's doing fine.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 9: He's don't find where he's at. Right to the top
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: of storylines, that man was inserted. Anybody who's even if
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 9: you're on the lowest of tears and you're still inserted
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 9: in that storyline, being part of the blood line, anything
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 9: is fucking phenomenal. And for female Tiffy time, Come on, guys,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 9: Tiffy uh, let's talk about how she basically catapulted her
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 9: way all the way up to getting money in the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 9: bank briefcase, being in high profile matches like the Elimination Chamber,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 9: did a pretty good standing in the rumble, you know,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 9: when she won the briefcase kind of you know, it
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 9: was debating like almost every pay per view, like is
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 9: she going to cash in this one? And this one?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 9: We always kind of found an angle for her to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: maybe cashing in. It was just kind of waiting for
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: her moments. She was a heel this whole time, and
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: when she did end up cashing it in, who knew
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 9: she would cash it in on being a face. Not
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 9: only does she get the title, but she got the
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: love of the fans backing her up.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 13: I think she's still pretty solid heel now, do you
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 13: think so? Yeah? And I think they've made that pretty
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 13: clear her.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 12: Yeah, all of her behavior is still very much healed.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 12: It's just the fans are still cheering her in spite
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 12: of for.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 9: Reasons because out yeah, okay, well I was taking it
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 9: as like her after you know, she beat I don't know,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 9: I just felt like her beatie Naya turned her into
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: a face. But I guess.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 13: Definitely forgetting pop, she's definitely getting cheered.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 9: You know, it's like when when when do you stop
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 9: fighting the fans and just turn them to what they are?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 9: You know, I mean they're doing right.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 12: That depends on what it is. I think it depends
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 12: on the circumstances. Like like I said, right now, she's
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 12: she may be getting pops from the fans, but I
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 12: think it could also be very much dependent on who
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 12: she's feuding. Who she's yeah, who's whose opposite side opposite
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 12: her in the ring? If it's her versus Naya, then yes,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 12: she would clearly be built as the face because despite everything,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 12: fans aren't ready to cheer Naya yet. But put her
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 12: opposite Bianca bell Are who the fans gonna cheer, then
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 12: I think that you might find fans being real conflicted
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 12: in terms of who they're gonna cheer, or you would
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 12: find a very split correct out.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: Right, And as of right now, she has kind of
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 9: no few going because Naya is kind of out of
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: the picture at the moment, which is kind of weird.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 12: Right, Yeah, I guess she's on raw now. That just
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 12: kind of very quietly happened. They just like put her
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 12: over on RAW.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 15: I thought they just said that she was using the portal,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 15: but I didn't.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 13: I didn't.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 15: I didn't get that she had been permanently moved to raw,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 15: but maybe I don't know.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 12: Apparently, Yeah, according to Carlos, he has said that she's
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 12: raw now, right right, Yeah, they don't think that, No,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 12: they really didn't. But like a kind of sidebar, they've
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 12: been doing this whole transfer portal or whatever they're calling
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 12: it now kind of poorly. Yeah, whatever they're calling it,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 12: but yeah, it's been executed pretty poorly because people are
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 12: just showing up and you don't know who's officially over
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 12: moved over, or who's just popping up for a week
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 12: like Bailey. Yes, we know because she announced it, Naya.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 12: I guess so it's been said that she said it,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 12: that she's here now, but I don't recall so, and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: she's still talking about trying to get her revenge on Tiffy.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 12: So yeah, they need to be more clear and definitive
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 12: with this ransfer window that they're doing now.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 3: And when does it end? It's just now so WrestleMania.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 9: Like no, never ends never. Yeah. The respect for the
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 9: draft is dead, yeah it is.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, that's it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 9: That's what I had for my female and male super
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 9: start of the year, dre take it away.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 13: Sorry. The official uh w W website has her on SmackDown.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 12: Still listed on smack Down, yes, okay, yeah, but those
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 12: the show, how well I think I said it into
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 12: the discord goes to show how kind of weak.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 13: Though, how much about it tells you they're not doing
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 13: a great job.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and the fact that they had to drag two
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: SmackDown stars over the raw to have a match doesn't
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 12: say much about the raw roster.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 15: Yeah, but I mean, like four main evenors are coming
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 15: back any minute.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: Now, yeah, but not all of them are gonna raw.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 15: Becky Charlotte Oscar and uh Alexa Bliss probably.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and I could see probably them splitting. I think
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 12: Charlotte and Alexa I could see going to SmackDown Becky
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 12: and Oscar will almost certainly be on RAW.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 13: I just mean that's a quick fix for a.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 12: For a little bit. And Jordan Grace if she arrives.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 12: I would put money that Jordan Grace will probably in
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 12: the ball Raw.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: Fair enough. So there's hope on the horizon.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, help us on the leg exactly.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: So back to our breakout stars.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that the answer is
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 12: Jacob Pattu because he one had all the hype in
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 12: the world, and when he showed, he delivered in every
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 12: aspect he came in and made an immediate impact was
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 12: and you know, showed from his ring performance to his
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 12: booking as the as a Monster to when he finally
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: opened up his mouth and started talking and then you realize, oh,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 12: he's just as good on the mic as he is
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 12: in the ring, and he's maintained it consistently since he's debuted,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 12: to the point that now barely even six months in WWE,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 12: and everybody already wants to see him in some of
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 12: the biggest, most high profile moments, like you see him
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 12: matched up with bigger guys and it's immediately getting a
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 12: rise out of the audience. Like when they saw him
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 12: go face to face with braunz Stroman, everybody immediately got
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 12: a rise out of it. Not because they want to
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 12: see braun Stroman, you know, fight him, because everybody wants
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 12: to see Jacobatu kick the shout broun Strowman. They wanted
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 12: to up Jacobatu beat his ass. People are already booking
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 12: him and Solo at WrestleMania in a high profile match,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 12: Like people can't wait to see what he's going to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 12: do in the Rumble, and I'll bet he'd have a
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 12: strong showing in the Rumble. So he's already being viewed
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 12: as a top talent and just a few months, even
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 12: though he doesn't have any you know, signature solo wins
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 12: or any title wins or anything like that, everybody just
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 12: knows it's coming and everybody wants to see it coming.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 12: So he's clearly the breakout star of the year. And
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 12: I don't think anybody else is really that close. I mean, yes,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 12: you could. Jay Cargo had a good debut. She had
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 12: an excellent debut in the Rumble, and she had all
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 12: the hype in the world a bit, albeit it was
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 12: a bit dampened by the fact that she was signed
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 12: in twenty twenty three and spent months just at the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 12: Performance Center before finally making her debut.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: But the debut was good.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 12: But since then she's had the booking, but the performance
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 12: I don't think it's quite I won't say the performance
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: has been bad. She hasn't had the same level of
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 12: living up to the hype that Jacob Fatu did. I'll
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: say that she's been bookstrong, She's held her own. You've
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 12: seen her grow and developed throughout the year. But it's
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 12: not that instant hit that Jacob Fatu was, where he
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: instantly showed up. It instantly delivered on the hype and
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 12: you instantly saw, oh, he is everything that everybody has
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 12: said he was. So that's what it gives him the edge.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 12: And Tiffy, yes, she's hers has been much more of
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 12: a slow burn. But I'm still very conflicted on Tiffany Stratton.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 12: She has had a good year, she's had a strong
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 12: breakout year. I would if there was a Rookie of
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 12: the Year category, I could probably give that to her
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 12: on the main roster. But yeah, I think you can
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 12: make an argument for a liv Morgan as a breakout
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 12: star of the year, even though she's already a She
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 12: was a champion going in before this year and been
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 12: a main roster star for a long time. This was
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 12: the year that she really finally emerged and found her character,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 12: found who, she found her person, and took it to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 12: the next level this year.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: You know, she she was She.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 12: Saw opportunity in Rhea's injury and ran with it. Yes,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 12: And I think that that that served some recognition as
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 12: again you could call it breakout because she stood above
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 12: all the others on the roster in the absence of
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 12: a Becky Lynch of the Charlotte of.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: An Oscar of Rhea.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 12: You know, she kind of carried and has now solidified
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 12: herself as one of those top women on the roster.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 12: You know, after what she did this year, you're not
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 12: gonna look at live more in the same way. You
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 12: don't look at her the way you did when she was,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 12: you know, SmackDown Women's champion. Having cashed in money in
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 12: the bank, she she's she's solidified her so she legitimized
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 12: herself this year but still Jacob Fatsu hands and above.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Clearly above everybody else's breakout Star of the Year.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: Nice Doyle.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 15: I think Live was too established going I agree with you,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 15: and I may be giving Live some hardware later, but
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 15: I think she was too established to be a breakout star.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 13: I gave honorable mentions to bron Breaker.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 15: He's not my cup of tea, but everybody else apparently
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 15: sees something I don't. I mean, he's kind of undeniably
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 15: going to be a star the future, probably the definition
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 15: of what it means to be a breakout star. Nobody
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 15: mentioned Chelsea Green and what a fucking amazing year she had.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 15: I know, I guess technically she came back last year,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 15: but this year she really came into her own.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 13: I think I couldn't give this award to Jacob Fatu,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 13: and I'll tell you why. I might go ahead and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 13: just penciling in right now for the twenty twenty sixth
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 13: award for Breakout Start of the Year.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 15: He just wasn't around long enough enough of the year.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 15: We didn't get he didn't come till August or something
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 15: like that. Did he even have one singles match? I
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 15: can't think of one technicality.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 13: Oh no, I mean it's qualified.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: I want a technicality. He didn't play enough games in
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: the season, that's what. Yes, oh, here you do.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 9: This is for you.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 13: Come on, don't be grazy.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: Come on, I'll do that.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 15: I mean, so as for the winner, there's really only
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 15: one choice as far as I'm concerned.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 13: You know what time it is, it's Tippic time.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 15: I mean, she starts a year off with a real
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 15: impressive showing in the Rumble. She doesn't make the final four,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 15: but I think she was like fifth or sixth out
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 15: something like that.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 13: She's in that kind of now iconic picture of you know,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 13: the last five.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 15: I think it was Live and Bianca and Tiffy and
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 15: Becky sitting on the outside watching Bailey celebrate.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 13: She gets called up.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 15: Great showing in the chamber, she wins money in the bank,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 15: she gets her own briefcase. Obviously she has a fun
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 15: run with that as Naya Jack's lackey. Yeah, I know
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 15: she didn't technically cash in until January third, But whatever,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 15: I'm giving out the award, I'll do what I want,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 15: and I'm gonna give.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: It to Tiffany drat value. That's valid.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that's fair, fair enough, we'll allow.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 9: Let me see here, what do I got I have
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 9: most impactful moment of the year?
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 13: What is uh?
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 9: Some big moments of the year big you know, they
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 9: don't have to be matches. They don't have to be
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 9: uh you know, they don't have to be all matches,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 9: they don't have to be all just title changes. There
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 9: could be other moments within WW. Here's some. I'm just
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 9: gonna rattle off a few. I'm gonna fire off a
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 9: few for me. It's again hard to narrow down one.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 9: The Rock returned multiple times, but there's something about the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 9: Rock for me every time he does it, because he
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 9: gets me every time. I don't he The last time
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 9: he returned recently was that raw a Netflix Right the
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 9: way he returned, I was like, I don't know who
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 9: it is, Like I really threw me off. And then
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 9: you get the it just smell and I like fell
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: out of my chair because like, oh my god, it
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 9: like it's the Rock like I didn't. I didn't know
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: who it was, and and they got us again. Last year.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 9: Do you guys remember when we were told a former
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 9: w W champion was coming right, and we oh, you
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 9: know what, that's the year that that should have been
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 9: the swerve of the year, right, gender ma hall right,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 9: we got pissed. I was like, are you you saw
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 9: the look in the crowd. They were pissed. There were
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 9: people who brought their children to see a fucking former
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 9: w W champion like no other, and we got gingder
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 9: fucking mahal right, but then they hit us with the
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 9: swerve and we got that it just smoll Oh my god,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 9: that was a hell of a moment. That got me.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 9: You know what, you guys are right that that could
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 9: have been like swerve swerve.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: That I should I forgot that happened in four right.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 9: Uh you know I I already mentioned it, but I
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 9: put seeing his retirement just you know, that being mentioned
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 9: was pretty impactful, like, holy crap, we're in for a
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 9: hell of a ride just one more time, you know,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 9: and then we're no longer gonna be able to see him.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 9: M uh. Throughout the year, the the the rivalry between
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 9: Sampunk and Drew McIntyre, constantly costing each other titles, world titles.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 9: I fucking loved it. I guess you could say the
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 9: biggest moment is at WrestleMania, you know, costing him his title.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 9: That was a huge moment this year for me. Uh,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 9: Sammy's Aine breaking good Thro's six hundred and sixty six
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 9: day Intercontinental title run. Did see that shit coming and
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 9: that was a big moment. That was a huge title run,
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 9: you know ending, and then I guess the last impactful
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 9: moment is we' well, I guess two more. Cody got
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 9: to finish this story, right, It's about damn time. It
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 9: was a two year chase. He finally got the title
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 9: and he's been He's still our champ. He's still held
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 9: on to it since. I think he's gonna go full
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 9: circle all the way back to WrestleMania with it. I
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 9: don't think he's gonna lose it till then. If if
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 9: maybe not then, But yeah, it was. It was a
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 9: hell of a ride leading up to that and and
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 9: to split off. For me, the most impactful moment of
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 9: the year was was spin off of that would later
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 9: we got later in the season, was the O G
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: blood line versus you know, the new blood line. Like,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 9: holy crap, we how did we end up with so
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 9: many fucking Samoans in like three four years?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 13: It's crazy?
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 9: Right, Like within one year guys, now we we we
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 9: discussed this multiple times. But within one year, do you
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 9: know how many Samoans we could put in the fucking
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 9: Royal rumble? We already have two that a Samoan rumble. Yeah,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 9: like for the for the Ula falla, like you know, yeah,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 9: it's it's ridiculous. Wait let me see here, because I
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 9: think for the rumble, Yeah, like the rumble, we we
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 9: already have ja Usso and Roman reigns already announced. That's
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 9: two usos. That's two Samoans are already And I don't
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 9: know Jimmy's gonna be in it. Oh no, no, I lie.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 9: We got Sammy's ain, Sammy's aid's in there. We already
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 9: got part of the blood line, and so you know what.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 13: Don't rate somewing. But he's hurt, so he's out.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 9: He's hurt. But I'm thinking though, like, okay, so we
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 9: is the new blood line going to be tied into
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 9: the rumble?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 9: Who knows? But we'll get to that subject. But yeah,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 9: that that's kind of some of the stuff I had
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 9: for impactful moments, you know, for me, uh, Doyle, let
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 9: me get some of your thoughts for your most impactful moments.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 15: I kind of just did one like off the field
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 15: one and one.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 13: On the field one, go for it.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 15: Off the field one is Vince leaving finally once and
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 15: for all. Yeah, second, his second ouster, as it were,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 15: I think just I mean, in as much as it's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 15: a good thing, he's a piece of ship, we want
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 15: him far away from the product. None of this would
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 15: be here without him. You can't overlook that. It's the same.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 15: It's kind of the same thing with Hogan. He's a
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 15: piece of ship, but none of this exists without him,
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 15: and Vinces, you know, even more so. So I mean
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 15: it's a in as much as it's a good thing
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 15: for a variety of reasons, not just because he's a
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 15: piece of shit. But I think the show is better,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 15: the booking is better, the storytelling is better, and that's
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 15: going to reverberate for.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 13: The rest of the time WWHOE continues to exist.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 15: So I think that's I mean, that's just one of
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 15: those things that we won't even know the full effects
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 15: of it for maybe a decade maybe more. But in
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 15: terms of things that didn't happen in or around the ring,
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 15: I think that was by far the most important.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 13: And then the on field one wing.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 15: You skirted it, but it's just a very very quick moment,
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 15: and that was Samantha Irvin's call of announcement that Tony,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 15: that Tony, that Cody Rhodes.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 13: Had won the world title.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 15: The way she was just fucking balling her voice cracked. Yeah,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 15: and that's one of the things I'll really really.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 13: Miss that she brought and that I've never you know,
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 13: I can't recall ever seeing or wanting to see what
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 13: did the.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 15: Re announcements look like when they were saying it, you know,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 15: but that was one of the greatest things after every
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 15: pay per view when you get the camshot of what,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 15: you know what Samantha, not just because she's gorgeous, but
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 15: because the emotion and the facial expressions, everything that she
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 15: brought to the table, and just that one particular call
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 15: of her just in tears, exhausted, you know, from emotion,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 15: in the way her voice cracked and everything. Just her
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 15: announcement of Cody finishing the story, as I thought, was
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 15: one of the best moments of the year.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I definitely agree with you on that.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 12: Like we didn't give a shit about ring announcers like
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 12: that before Samantha, Like we knew who they were and
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 12: we just acknowledged them just as the voice, like Finkel,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 12: he's the voice. You know, the whole thing of Anne
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 12: New comes from him, you know that. But it was
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 12: mostly just the voice and Lilian and she's kind of
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 12: like the voice of the attitude there.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: So is that. Whereas Samantha, you.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 12: Know, it was what she actually did and you were
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 12: invested in and how she announced things, and she made
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 12: every entrance unique, whether it was the way she would
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 12: introduce the bloodline when they were in their run, or
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 12: the way she would give you the Chelsea Green or
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 12: however she did it, or even people like Gunter, the
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 12: way she would put a you know, that little bit
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 12: of an accent on it.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 12: Her her leaving is definitely gonna be probably was one
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 12: of the most impactful moments. You know, without that, we
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 12: don't get you know, number one container. Yeah right, yeah,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 12: so yeah, I think that is what I.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 13: Really noticed announcement until they fucked.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 12: Up, right, you didn't know some Yeah, they were just
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 12: the voice that you heard. She was probably the first
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 12: one where you you know, the person mattered just as
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 12: much as the performance. So yeah, that's definitely one that
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 12: can go up there as impactful moment, and it's something
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 12: that will be felt, you know, probably for years to come,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 12: more till whenever she does come back. If ever, other
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 12: ones I would bring up, which I thought about this one,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 12: but I think it obviously it's just now starting to happen,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 12: so the true effects of it are still far and out,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 12: you know, from happening. But I think retrospectively will end
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 12: up looking back at it as being an impactful moment.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 12: And that would be the announcement of Raw's moved to Netflix,
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 12: you know, talking about a show that's been with USA
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 12: for over thirty years outside of a couple you know
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 12: years in the the early two thousands when they jumped
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 12: over to Spike TV, right.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 15: And the the longest episodic.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the longest running episodic.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 13: Longer than fucking Bonanza. And Bonanza was on for fucking ever.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, longer than I think, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 12: it was like second only to maybe like Meet the
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 12: Press or something like that, like one of the longest running.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 12: But yeah, and now it's no longer on network television,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 12: no longer on cable. You now have to actually, like,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 12: I mean technically you did before, but now you really
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 12: have to like pay to watch Raw. And then of
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 12: course we get the news today the little dipshits over
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 12: Netflix just decided, Hey, it's a whole lot of motherfuckers
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 12: we added last quarter, all right, raised the.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 9: Price, dude, more genius.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: But again it did.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 12: The impact wasn't really felt in twenty twenty four because
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 12: it didn't happen until this year, but it is one
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 12: of those announcements that is definitely going to be impactful
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 12: for years to come. So I think that uh is
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 12: one of the most impactful moments of the year. But
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 12: I think the one that the one that I chose
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 12: for the most impactful moment of the year was I
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 12: chose an nd ring moment and that was Cody finishing
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 12: the story.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was. It was the climax of.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 12: One of the longest running and best told story he's.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: In a long time.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 12: Even though, yes, the blood Line storyline is still going on,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 12: and obviously we've had Bloodline Civil War and blood Line
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 12: two point zero and such that I think all of
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 12: this is kind of I think Cody finishing the story
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 12: will kind of still be looked at as.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: The climax of the whole blood Line saga.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 12: It's when it all came down, you know, it's when
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 12: when Tony snapped his fingers, snapped the gauntlet, and Thanos
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 12: turned to dust. Everything afterwards is epilogue to a certain extent,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 12: But that was the climax, and I think that really
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 12: also happening at Russell Many forty the beginning of a
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 12: new era in WWE, just as Stone Cold winning at
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 12: Russell May fourteen kind of they look back at that
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 12: moment as being the kickoff of what ushered in the
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 12: Attitude era, even though it kind of too technically happened
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 12: I think a little bit before or after, but people
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 12: call that moment ushering in the Attitude era. Cody winning
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 12: at WrestleMania forty is probably gonna usher in whatever this
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 12: new era is. You can maybe call it the kickoff
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 12: of this Triple H era or whatever. But for me
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 12: that this is the most that was the most impactful
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 12: moment from twenty twenty four.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 9: Hmm, nice, Sorry, I mean a cookie. M Now we're
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 9: gonna move on the Comeback of the Year. Well, does
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 9: anybody need a break?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: We're good, I'm good, I'm good.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 9: All right, let's get to you come Back of the Year.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 9: I guess this one could also fall under comeback of
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 9: the year. I mean when the Rock came back during
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 9: that whole gender Mahal stint. Definitely one of my favorite
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 9: comebacks of the year. Live Morgan coming back from injury,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 9: you know, coming back at the Rumble and her momentum,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 9: you know, taking like you said, dre taking advantage of
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 9: real getting injured. You know, her momentum going from injured
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 9: to Women's champion and taking over to.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 14: Dude.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 9: Yes, right, Uh and then you know what, I only
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 9: have one other one. Uh, you know what's a good
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 9: one for me? Naomi coming back. That was a good
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 9: return for me. I like that. I I think it
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 9: was good for her, Like I didn't think she was
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 9: ever going to come back, you know, with the way
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 9: she left the company last I mean, I know her
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 9: significant other, her oose is here, but business is business.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 9: So but yeah, yeah, that was one of my favorite comebacks.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 9: I'm sure there's plenty I'm missing, but you know, a
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 9: lot of wrestlers have been injured this year. We didn't
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 9: get a lot of comebacks. We got more leaves than comebacks.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Were going outs than coming backs.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 9: Yeah, really, so the Rocks just returned like four or
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 9: five times this year. That's about it. So, Drey, what
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 9: do you have?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 12: My comeback of the Year does go to the Rock.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 12: But it's not the not the Gender Mahal moment or
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 12: anything like that. It was the Rock coming back as
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 12: the final Boss. It's pretty much from the WrestleMania press
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 12: conference on through WrestleMania. That to me was the comeback
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 12: of the year because this was the Rock showing everybody
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 12: that he still has it right, and not just that
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 12: he has it for one night where he can come
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 12: in and pander to the crowd and give his catchphrase
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 12: and get the pop.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 3: That's easy, that's light work.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 12: We know he can do that in his sleep without
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 12: thinking twice about it. You know, he did it multiple times.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 12: He's done it pretty much consistently over the years. But
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 12: for him to come back and really put the time
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 12: in to be on raw for you know, for that
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 12: whole run up to WrestleMania and be a heel, you know,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 12: for them to have pivoted on a dime basically with
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 12: all the controversy that surrounded the WrestleMania booking and for
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 12: him to say, all right, fuck it, I'm gonna go
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 12: here and I'm gonna remind y'all just how damn good
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 12: of a heel I can be when I'm on my game,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 12: And he was on it one and reinvented himself again
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 12: as the Final Boss. You know, changed up the theme,
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 12: brought back the Hollywood theme, made it work, you know,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 12: giving us great moments like him whooping Cody's ass in
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 12: the rain and leaving him bloody, cussing on TV like
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 12: there's no tomorrow and saying who gonna check me? You know,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 12: also forget that line, you know, this is what happens
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 12: when you fuck with the Final Boss, like that's a
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 12: that's a bar, that's a line.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: That won't be remembered.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 12: And then topping it all and culminating with him giving
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 12: us a match at WrestleMania where he worked for nearly
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 12: an hour, and that tag team match with Roman and
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 12: Seth and Cody.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: He didn't just he didn't play it safe.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 12: He didn't sit on the sideline and just come in
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 12: for the moment slow. He genuinely worked that match like
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 12: just as hard as everybody else. So for me, Rock
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 12: coming back as the Final Boss and reminding everybody just
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 12: how damn good he is, just how damn good he
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 12: still is.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: That's the come back of the year for me.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 9: Yo, it's honorable mention. Uh cameo really not really a comeback.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 9: Uh where I lost my voice? Man, I lost my
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 9: voice at WrestleMania when the Undertaker came back because I
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 9: thought we were getting stone cold. We ended up getting
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 9: the Undertaker. I ain't see it ship coming. I lost
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 9: my voice. But as an Oliver mentioned, Uh, Doyle, when
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 9: your voice.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 13: Came back, that could have been one of the comebacks
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 13: of the year.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 14: Oh my god.
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's like three weeks.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 15: But Wayne, to your point earlier there, I feel like
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 15: there was more going than comings and comings back this year.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah. I mean the Rock came back, Rack Cal came back.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 13: Remember we saw Trish this year?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: Remember uh, thank you Trish.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 13: It felt like Rollins came back four or five times.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 15: But uh, there was only one choice for me. Uh
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 15: and then somebody that was I think maybe because they
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 15: were around all year, you forgot that the year started
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 15: for them as a comeback.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 13: But nobody mentioned live more.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 3: Wayne. Did he touched on it briefly?
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 13: Oh dah, okay, I just you know she returns at
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 13: the Rumble. She's run her up again. Uh you know,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 13: and it isn't long before She's taken Ria out, won
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 13: the title, took her man reshaped Judgment Day.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 15: You know, this is really the year where she kind
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 15: of everything clicked for her. You know, she kind of
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 15: put all the pieces together.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 13: Uh, you know, is.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 15: She the female will Osprey? No, but she has improved
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 15: leaps and bounds in the ring. You know, she was
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 15: kind of a joke until this year, really, you know,
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 15: like she you know, when she was winning titles before
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 15: beating Ronda Rousey whatever, it was like a fluke kind
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 15: of thing, you know.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 13: But she's not a joke anymore. And you know, I
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 13: think what.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 15: She maybe lacks in physical prowess, she's made up for
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 15: by stepping up her ring psychology.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 13: Game, you know on the mic.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 15: Yes, she's benefited from getting the playoff Dom and Rihea,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 15: who are two of the best in the business.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 13: But I feel like, you know that hardly guarantees you're
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 13: going to succeed. She could have just as easily sunk
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 13: like a stone, you know, but instead being put up
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 13: next to them, I think she definitely leveled up.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 15: And for me, Nobody's return in twenty twenty four had
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 15: nearly the impact that Lives did. Oh and she won
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 15: the nonsense Saudi Cup thing or whatever. You know, maybe
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 15: not a big deal, but I guarantee, yeah, talking about
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 15: her resume, that'll be up there.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean because she was around all year.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 13: Maybe y'all maybe we forgot.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 15: That her return at the Rumble almost a year ago,
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 15: but she was my come.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 13: Back of the year.
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah. That's a good one. That's a good one.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 12: You do kind of forget that she did start the
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 12: year on the sideline, right, we just think about all
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 12: the things that she did do from the yeah, from
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 12: the Live Morgan Revenge to her onward.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 13: Yeah, and she she said all that stuff she was
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 13: gonna do when she.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 12: Did good one, good one, you could almost say a
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 12: breakout year.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 9: All right, let's move on to Tag Team of the Year.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 9: Tag Team of the Year. Now this was rough. Why
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 9: because I was looking through the men's roster and looking
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 9: at the tag teams. Granted, who's had the tag titles
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 9: from the majority of the year, still didn't persuade me
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 9: to pick them. Just because you have the gold for
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 9: a certain amount of time doesn't make you a great
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 9: tag team champion. I mean, you can have very boring
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 9: long title runs, or you can have title runs that
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 9: where you don't defend the titles whatsoever, and they're just
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 9: part of your stable. Yes, uh, but that said, I mean,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 9: clear as day, there's only one tag team that stands
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 9: out for me all year, and that's Jade Cargo and
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 9: Bianca bel Air. I mean, come on, it's what what
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 9: Camera Grimes would say. Straight to the Moon baby, I mean,
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 9: that's where these two went. I mean Bianca was already there,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 9: but I mean she just took Jade right up there
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 9: with her. The momentum these two had before Jade's injury,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 9: they were we were hoping that they were building a long,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 9: tight relationship where they you know, multiple title runs because
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 9: they have lost them but then gained them back again.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 9: That you know, we were gonna see maybe some tension
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 9: within within the tag team, and that could still happen
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 9: when she returns. They could still turn that into something.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 9: Now that Naomi's in the picture, it's gonna, I think,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 9: gonna be even bigger and better story. But I mean
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 9: this honorable mentions like d I Y finally got the
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 9: titles and their heels, the Bloodline got the tag titles
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 9: for a bit, you know, Awesome Truth finally got the
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 9: tag titles this year, we got motor City machine Guns
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 9: came in. They're great tag team Uh yeah, Drey, what
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 9: do you think about tag Teams of the Year.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 12: I'm not even gonna front on this one. I don't
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 12: have a Tag Team of the Year. And the reason
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 12: why I don't is because I feel like tag team
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 12: division as a whole was just so under booked this year.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 12: It was almost treated as an afterthought so much. There
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 12: was really nothing high profile that occurred with the men
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 12: or the women. I mean, we got nice feel good
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 12: moments with you know our Truth reuniting and winning the
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 12: tag team titles at WrestleMania, but then they lose them
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 12: to shortly thereafter to Fenn Balor and JD McDonald, who
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 12: have done jack shit with them all year till they
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 12: finally dropped them to war Raiders.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 3: That was nothing.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 12: On the other side, the WWE Tag Team Championship were
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 12: won by Theory and Grayson Waller, who again didn't do
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 12: jack shit with them until they finally dropped him to
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 12: Who the fuck did they even drop them?
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: Did they drop them to MotorCity machine Guns or was
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: there some.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 12: Other team that won it before MotorCity Exactly?
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 3: The fact that we can't remember.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 12: It speaks to just how poorly how weekly booked the
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 12: tag team divisions have been all year. And yeah, they're
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 12: finally now starting to do something with the WWE Tag
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 12: team titles on SmackDown, where at least we're getting some
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 12: sort of ongoing week to week developments and these segments.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 12: But for most of the year they've just been there
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 12: as afterthoughts. And I would have loved to given it
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 12: to Bianca and Jade, like as you did, but they
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 12: had their moment and then Jade gets injured. I could
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 12: maybe reach and try to give it to the trio
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 12: of them with Bianca, Jade and Naomi, because one day
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 12: gave us that iconic moment that I still have saved
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 12: to my phone was the picture of all three of
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 12: them pointing up at the at the WrestleMania sign, which
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 12: was a beautiful moment, followed by the match that they
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 12: had against wasn't it Damage Control at WrestleMania?
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 13: Was it?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 9: Uh?
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Oscar Eo and Kyrie? Was it that they faced?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, they had that good match, but then nothing
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 12: really came about from it. Then they finally then Biyanka
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 12: and Jade win the titles just to lose them at
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 12: Class of the Castle on some bullshit, just to finally
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 12: win them back and then defend them.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 3: But as good as.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 12: They were, it still didn't really do anything for the
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 12: women's tag team division as a whole. It's still terribly
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 12: booked and underappreciated and underdeveloped, and they're just kind of
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 12: just high profile holders of the type of the titles,
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 12: but it's still not doing anything. So I struggle to
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 12: give them the award when their reign hasn't done much
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 12: for the division as a whole. I think if anybody
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 12: should probably get it, it would be a tag team
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 12: that I didn't pay attention to this year, but from
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 12: the research I was trying to do figuring out who
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 12: to pick, wind up seeing hearing a lot of the
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 12: things about and that would be down in NXT and
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 12: that would be the team of Praxium of Axiom and shit,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 12: can't you remember the other guy's name? But at yeah,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 12: Nathan Fraser in Axiom. But that would be disingenuous for
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 12: me to give it to them, because I know I
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 12: haven't followed them that much throughout the year, but I
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 12: know they've held the titles throughout the year and they've
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 12: been doing some interesting things with their teaming of them
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 12: having constant friction but having to work through it to
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 12: keep the titles. But again, I haven't paid that much
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 12: attention enough to really give a valid argument to them.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 12: So this year, I just feel like this is just
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 12: a down year as a whole for tag teams in general.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 12: So it's kind of hard to give anybody Tag Team
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 12: of the Year. I don't know that anybody really separated
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 12: themselves from the back or did anything noteworthy to rise
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 12: up above everybody else, right, And there's.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 9: Nothing wrong with that, Like it just shows like that
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 9: this year the tag division just or twenty twenty four,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 9: the tag division just wasn't that strong because the previous
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 9: year we were like, oh, like it was Ko and
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 9: Sammy seen where it was the you know, the USO's
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 9: the bloodline, Like there's a lot easier back then because
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 9: the Tag division was doing better. And that's why I'm
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 9: not gonna I'm not gonna get rid of, you know,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 9: stuff like this because oh it's just a bad year,
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 9: or we didn't have a lot of botches this year,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 9: like yeah, that's.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 12: Twenty twenty five could be an up year for tag teams.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 12: We could see them really rise up and do something
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 12: this year, I hope so.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, So I hope next year we have more
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 9: awards for for this. Doyle, do you do you have
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 9: any you want to put in?
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I'm pretty much in the same camp
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 15: as both of you guys are.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I keep hearing about uh uh praxium or whatever,
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 13: but I I know axium just because he has the mask.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 15: I don't think I could pick Nathan Fraser out of
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 15: the lineup. If you showed me three guys and said
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 15: which one is him, I could. I would have a
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 15: thirty three percent chance of being right.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 3: And I know they can go in the ring. Soups.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: I have seen one of them.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 13: Things about them, I just hardly ever watched. I watched.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 13: I watched the women's clips on social and it's.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 12: About I see one match they had with Cedric Alexander
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 12: and Javon Evans, and it was a banger. It was
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 12: a banger of a match. But that's literally all I
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 12: saw of them last year.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, it was fun to see Awesome Truth get a
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 15: little run and there was a fun Mania moment. Yeah,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 15: well I was good, but they were like too little,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 15: too late, same with the Motor City Machine Guns. Yeah,
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 15: I mean I gave it to Jade and Bianca too,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 15: kind of out of lack of anybody else to give
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 15: it to.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 13: On the one.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 15: On the plus side, I mean, they didn't lose the titles,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 15: but they weren't beaten for them. They lost them in
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 15: a multi team match, I think.
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it was a triple threat.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 15: Uh So, they held the titles for most of the
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 15: year and they actually defended them unlike unlike almost every
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 15: other team that held their tag team championship this year,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 15: and they did it raw. It's back down n NXT. So,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 15: I mean it's kind of like being the smartest stupid person.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 15: But uh, I mean, of course we love Bianca on
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 15: this podcast.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 13: I think Jade I can kind of take or leave.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 13: But I mean Jane's always rather is always gonna get
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 13: some award from me and no matter what, no matter what,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 13: unless she's uh dead or in jail. Uh So that's
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 13: the one I'm going to give hopefully next year. It'll
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 13: be hopefully next year she'll be in the Female Superstar
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 13: of the Year contention.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 9: All right, moving along, we got three left, three categories left.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 9: Let's talk about promo of the year guys.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 14: Mm hmmm.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 9: I had to dig deep because I'd be listening to
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 9: a couple of promos and then I would forget Damn,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 9: there's another promo. Damn, there's this promo. Damn, there's this one.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 9: And I was like, I got narrowed down to one
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 9: and it was hard.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 13: I have.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 9: We're gonna play, We're not gonna well, we're gonna play
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 9: the each of us have our best promo. We had
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 9: to pick one we have maybe we have runner it ups,
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 9: honorable mention, but we're gonna only play one of each free. Sorry,
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 9: I have something in my throat. Uh my, I guess, uh,
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 9: runner up or honorable mention. I guess you could say
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 9: would be the the full New Day dumping on Biggie
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 9: basically dropping him that we played it on the show
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 9: when it happened.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 9: Definitely one of my favorite pro most of twenty twenty four.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 9: Along with shocking moments and heel turns and many other things.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 9: New Day won a lot of things this year, leaving
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 9: here tonight with a lot of trophies. But you know
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 9: another I guess runner up would be the Rock beating
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 9: the shit out of Cody Roads in the rain for sure, definitely.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 9: I mean we got all the curse words, we got
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 9: all the blood, we got all the it was just dramatic,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 9: and the rain just it was just it was just
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 9: so fucking well. But for me, when it came down
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 9: to promo of the year, it involved Seampunk, but it
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 9: was like, who though, was it Seampunk and Drew McIntyre
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 9: or was it seam Punk and seth Rawlins. So now
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 9: I had to fucking narrow it down even further. So
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 9: I eventually got it down to damn it, I think
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna have to go with seth Rollins and Punk.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 9: And then you got even more defined of which seth
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 9: Rollins and Punk argument which which promo that they did,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 9: because there's one like when Punk got injured, and then
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 9: there's one went right after Hell and the Cell with
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 9: Punk and seth Rollins. But for me, this is why
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 9: I like doing this Awards ceremony in January, because December
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 9: thirty first, you know, at the end of the year,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 9: we got I think one of the best promos. It
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 9: was like almost like eight minutes long of Sam Punk
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 9: and seth Rawlins getting ready for this raw Netflix twenty
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 9: twenty five match. We've been building this, this feud for
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 9: so long. It's been cooking for like ten plus months.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 9: Injuries have set it back. But even though it was
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 9: set back with injuries, ever since Punk has entered the
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 9: returned back to the company, I think of twenty twenty three, right,
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 9: But since he's been back like this, this whole feud's
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 9: been on the back burner and cooking. But it's been
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 9: it's been in a crock pot. There we go. That's
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 9: what I'm gonna say. It's been in the fucking crock
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 9: pot because when it was finally ready to be served,
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 9: it was fucking great and just basically you know, discussing.
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 9: They were discussing throughout the argument of why this match
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 9: hasn't happened yet. You know, I was busy, uh Seth
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 9: was saying, I was busy defending championships and raising kids,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 9: which you wouldn't know anything about, you know, so a
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 9: lot of stuff kind of hit hard, you know, to home,
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 9: and you know, Punk was saying that, you know, stuff like,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 9: you know, you've been thinking about me for ten months.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 9: You know, you haven't even been you know, on my mind.
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 9: You're not even a thought my because I've been doing stuff,
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 9: you know, it's just alive. This hit hard and I
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 9: enjoyed it because I'm a fan of both. That's what
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 9: I loved about it, And there's just so much passion
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 9: within it. So with that said, I mean, here you
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 9: go if you want to listen to it.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 6: Took his ball and went home.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: The most industry planned cliche.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 6: Boot liquor line I've ever heard in.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: My entire life. What paragot of virtue? Did you get
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: that from?
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 6: Huh?
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: Who originally said that that wanted to turn the people
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: against the boys? When he got told no, or when
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: he got told you're wrong? Did stone Coat Steve Austin
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: take his ball and go home?
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 6: You know, I haven't seen the.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: Man around these parts and quite some time. Did she
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: take her ball and go home too?
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 9: Or is it just me?
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 12: Seth?
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: You want to tell these people that I turned.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 3: My back on them.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: You want to tell fifteen thousand strong in Houston that
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: I abandon them run? In reality, you just want to
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: cry because I abandon you. I was sick and tired
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: and I left this place and you stayed, and you
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: ate it. We both made our choices, we both made
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: our decisions. I have no regrets, none, I don't want
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: to talk about the last ten years. Let's talk about
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: the last ten months.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 6: Seth. What how's your neck good?
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: How's your knee?
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: How's that knee? How's your insights? Because I watched Big
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: Bronson reed hit you with six tsunamis, how's your pride?
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 6: Because you didn't get a.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: Monicum of a revenge on him, and you saw me
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: break his ankle in wargames, self proclaimed best in the world. Yeah,
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: because I believe in myself, self professed martyr. Your damn right.
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: I came back. I didn't want to make friends, I
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: said very publicly, I'm here to make money, and next week,
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: old baby, I get to make a boatload of cash,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 2: making you the victim you so badly want to be.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 6: Little brother.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 2: Oh got that crap?
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 6: Man, got that little brother crap? That don't work no more.
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: You know the difference between you and everybody.
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 6: Else that left, They actually did leave.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: My wife she's taking a break to raise a kid.
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 6: I know you don't know what that's like.
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 2: Stone cold, he said, it was the biggest mistake he
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: ever made.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 10: He understands about change, all right.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: You you left, you wanted this place to die with
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 2: the echoes of those seem punk chants.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 6: You went on your.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 2: Buddy's podcast tried to.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 6: Tear this place down.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 3: When that didn't.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 2: Work, you took every single shot you could to try
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: to kill this place and you still couldn't do it.
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 2: And then you took a big chunk of change to
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: go join the competition. How that worked out for you?
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 2: You you wanna call me a martyr, No, man, I
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 2: never felt bad about anything that I did.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 6: I never felt the shame. I fought and I stayed.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 2: Because that's how revolutions are made, all right, That's how
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: they're made. They're made in the trenches, not by cowards
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: who abandon their families. You stay in the trenches, you fight.
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 2: That's how we win the war. And we won the war.
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: And you want to come back in here and you
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: want to wave the fire with dus.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: No way.
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: You can't big brother me anymore because I'm the damn
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: big brother.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 6: So you will.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: You will take another ten years off after the six.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 6: But it's not gonna be a decision you make.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be one I make for you. You can
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: recognize the pioneers because of the arrows in their back.
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 2: I was the first one through the wall, and I
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: got bloodied for it. You wouldn't be here if it
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: wasn't for me. I loved the place I worked. I
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 2: just hated the guy in.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 6: Charge, and he loved you.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: And in situations where you should have had my back,
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 2: alls you did.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 6: Would shoot arrows in it.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 2: And then I leave and roll and behold, he shows
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: his true colors and he stabs Roman reigns in the back.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 6: And now he's dressed like an idiot, trying to play.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 2: Victim in a situation that he created.
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 6: Those arrows kill weak people.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: The greats above all odds find a way.
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 6: To march forward.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: And I left because I had to, and I got
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: far enough away.
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 6: Until those arrows couldn't reach me anymore.
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 2: And after a few years I started to be able
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 2: to pull him out.
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 6: And after a few more years, I.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 2: Pulled them all out, and I came back because for
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 2: seven years they chanted, mostly.
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 6: During your television time.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 3: My name.
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 6: I should be ted Seth, but I'm not.
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 2: An Oh aren't the arrow throwers mad? Next week, those
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 2: same arrows that were supposed to do me and I
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 2: carry to this day and I'm walking into La Netflix,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: live in and living color.
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 6: With a fistful arrows.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna jam them down your corporate throat.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 16: You know, I've never said this to your face. Maybe
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 16: once upon a time you were a pioneer. What you
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 16: have become is a cancer. You are a cancer to
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 16: that locker room. You are a cancer my brain.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: You are a cancer to this business. And cancer does
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: not cheer itself.
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 6: The only way to defeat it is to cut it out.
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 2: So in one week, you bring your fistful arrows, I'll
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: bring my eyes afire and my heart full of hate
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 2: and rage, and i will bar you to the drown.
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 2: It is on pumpkin rowins, headlining what is arguably the
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 2: most woted cart in raw history.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 12: A history that US great rattue and a wonderful reliefship developed.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 9: Here, dre what do you got for, like best promo
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 9: of the year?
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 12: So when it came to this, Yeah, the good thing
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 12: about this reward is it gives you. It takes you
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 12: on a trip down memory lane, because yeah, there's tons
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 12: of promos in the year that you may forget about
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 12: and you go back and like, oh yeah I remember
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 12: that one.
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I remember this one too.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 12: So yeah, so going back down memory Lane and the
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 12: three that I remember the most that really stood out
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 12: to me. I would say number three would be Roman
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 12: Reigns when he just completely tore into seth Rollins on
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 12: raw about him being the number two and being the
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 12: talking about Cody going to the loser's bracket to compete
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 12: with him. But it was a particular line where he
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 12: dunked on fucking seth Rolins somehow, Yeah, I work ten
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 12: I worked less than you. In fact, I work ten
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 12: times less than you, and I guess you know what
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 12: I make in times more than you. I was like,
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 12: that was such a fucking cold ass line he asked.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 12: He was like, let me ask you guys, would you
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 12: rather have seth Rolins money or would you rather have
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 12: tribal chief money? Like he just freaking eviscerated seth Rollins
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 12: at all of like two minutes.
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 3: That was fucking cold blooded.
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 12: My number two would be would go to the rock
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 12: and not the beat down on Cody in the rain,
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 12: although that was a moment, but more so a couple
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 12: of weeks later when he cut the promo and he
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 12: had the belt in the ring afterwards and he talked
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 12: about what he was going to do to Cody and
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 12: he says, you know, I'll take this belt and I'll
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 12: hand it to Mama Roads, and as I walk away,
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 12: I'll say to her, what else can I say except
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 12: you're welcome.
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 3: God, he fucking quoted MAUI. That ship was ice cold.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 12: That was That was a fucking line that almost got
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 12: that almost got my promo of the year because that
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 12: ship peak rock. That was rock fully in his bag.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 12: That line was so fucking cold. But uh, oh.
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 9: Wait, Dre, here you go. I got it for you.
• 2:08:33
  Speaker 8: What can I say except your well brum?
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 9: Oh my god, fucking great.
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 15: Jesus, that's right over my head because I've never seen,
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 15: uh whatever, the movie.
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 9: You know, a subjects. You must see that fucking movie.
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 9: I am a grown ass man, and I find myself
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 9: throughout the day saying, you know, singing fucking songs for
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 9: that movie, all songs for that movie.
• 2:09:05
  Speaker 3: It is genuinely good movie.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, and yeah, if you're aware of that, you hear
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 12: that line, you're like, damn.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, that that line was.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 12: Hard as fuck, taking a fucking children's song line and
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 12: turning it into just this most sinister.
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 3: Thing, Like, yeah, fuck, that was peak rock. But my
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 3: number one.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 12: I gave it to because it was another line that
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 12: was hard as fuck and then basically lived on for
• 2:09:39
  Speaker 12: the rest of the year because it pretty much became
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 12: a meme for the rest of the year. And that
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 12: is Drew McIntyre to see him Punk when he said
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 12: I prayed for this and it happened after the Royal
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 12: rumble and seeing Punk had that torn tricept and Drew
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 12: came out there, acted on sympathetic. He was like, you know,
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 12: I'm not a religious man, but I want you to
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 12: know Punk, I prayed for this and it happened, and
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 12: I was like, oh.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 9: It was hard because like Drew was so on his
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 9: ship this year, not just like in his promos, but
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 9: like if we were to say who was if we
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 9: ever had a category for who was best on social
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 9: media this year, Drew McIntyre would have won that ship
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 9: that man had on social media and he.
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 12: Owned social media this year. He absolutely owned it, absolutely,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 12: even even in the even when it turned around and
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 12: bit him in the ass. Like remember when he was
• 2:10:43
  Speaker 12: having a match with Seth Rollins and he freaking was
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 12: whooping his ass and then hopped grabbed a phone and
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 12: shit and said, you know, I forgot what he said
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 12: on social media. But he said so he like he
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 12: literally tweeted something out in the middle of the match
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 12: and then of course he loses it and he goes
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 12: well ship afterwards.
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just like so many because he gets so
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 9: personal and he's just so it's just so quick with it.
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 12: But that that was my promo over the year, that
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 12: Drew McIntire and that and that line, because like I said,
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 12: it became a meme afterwards, like something negative, something ba
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 12: would happened. Yeah, somebody would just come pop up with
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 12: the Drew McIntire, like I prayed for this and it happened.
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 9: Oh my god.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 3: So that's mine.
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 9: Yeah, all right, well here, let's let's play it from.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 17: You know, I've said some terrible things about you since
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 17: your return to w w E, and I'm met in them.
• 2:11:49
  Speaker 17: You're a terrible person to me in the past. I
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 17: think you're a poison to the locker room. But I'm
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 17: listening to you now and I can relate to everything
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 17: you're saying. I've in my dreams taken away from me
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 17: as well.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 13: I was fired from.
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 17: This place, and when I was lessening to you talking
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 17: to me, your buddy, Chad, I can relate to that
• 2:12:09
  Speaker 17: as well.
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 17: You know what I've believe, and I've went through some
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 17: changes recently myself have never been.
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 13: Much of a spiritual person. But I want you to
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 13: know this. I prayed for this, and it happens.
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 18: When I got into that rumble, I targeted you.
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 13: I violently assaulted you.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 18: I could not let you win that thing or champion.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 3: He's went down.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 6: He's taken the title.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 18: As far as he could till his buddy broke.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 3: He's in a great job.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 13: Who's gonna take it to the next level.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: I couldn't let it be you, and you eliminated me,
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 2: and I couldn't sleep that.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 9: Night, and I was so angry with myself.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 17: Fanna heard the news the next day and I slept
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 17: like a baby last night.
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 3: You won the battle, but.
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 13: He didn't win the war.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 6: Mission accomplished.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 17: I exercised the demon CM Punk.
• 2:13:33
  Speaker 18: Now I'm gonna find a way into the world title
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 18: match a WrestleMania, and I'm gonna go to the main
• 2:13:40
  Speaker 18: event and I'm gonna lift CM punk stream again.
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 13: Us.
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 6: I'm pum.
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 17: Don't lower those eyes, look me in the eyes when
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 17: you speak to me.
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 19: Please, my heart hurts more than my Tricep does I'm
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 19: gonna go rehabit and when I come back, I will
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 19: main event WrestleMania.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 6: But the first checklist is you.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 20: I'm coming right for you.
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 2: And backage Hearts wanting to take a cheap shot at
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 2: a one on sampum.
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 9: All right, Doyle, what's your promo of the year?
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean I have a not insignificant amount of
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 15: overlap here. Yeah, I had honorable mentions as uh the
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 15: Rock and Cody in the Rain. There was some of
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 15: those instagram uh tiraids as the Rock went on and
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 15: I think it was the first one he did about
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 15: Seth Rawlins and went on for like fifteen minutes.
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 13: He just shit all over Ceth Rollins and then laid
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 13: up to WrestleMania. That was great, Wayne.
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 15: When you were talking about the Drew Punk Seth Love
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 15: triangle there, I thought for sure you had mentioned the
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 15: one promo where it was the three of them that
• 2:15:35
  Speaker 15: where Drew was.
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 13: Sitting on the announced desk. You remember this.
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 15: There were so many great lines. Uh Drew said something
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 15: like you never drink or drew drugs, you can spend
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 15: all your.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 13: Time in rehab. Oh yeah, yeah, chose one? Who chose you. Huh,
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 13: why don't you say his name?
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 3: Who chose you?
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 9: Damn dude? That was so good. Yeah, I never seen
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 9: the guy doesn't drink and you want to know what
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 9: I think punk and.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 13: He just goes nope.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 9: Oh god dude. Yeah that was fucking classic.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 15: Yeah, so runner up. I had I prayed for this
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 15: and it happened. Just fucking the line that launched a
• 2:16:14
  Speaker 15: thousand memes. It was hilarious.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 13: But yeah, my.
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 15: Winner and Drey mentioned it earlier was Roman Reigns after
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 15: the Rumble, just shitting all over Seth and Cody. The
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 15: YouTube segment is like six and a half minutes. Roman
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 15: doesn't say a word till over three minutes, So this
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 15: is this is short. It's sweet, and Roman just fucking
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 15: drops bombs.
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 13: For three minutes, just a fucking masterclass and ship talk
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 13: some of the standout lines for me. And this is
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 13: almost the whole thing because it's so short. Uh, this
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 13: is my little brother, Seth Rowlins. That's right, no pop
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 13: when the.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 15: Yeah, then he proceeds to ship all over the World
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 15: Heavyweight Championship.
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 13: He was really he was saying what we were all thinking.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 3: You can't be.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 15: Running things around here for two years and your wife's
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 15: clothes and still call yourself the guy is do you
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 15: want Seth Rowland's money or you want tribal chief money?
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 15: Just fucking so good, h Just three minutes, that's all
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 15: he needed, just fucking bomb after bomb after bomb.
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 13: And most guys couldn't do it. Roman did in three
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 13: minutes if they had thirty minutes. So for me, that
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 13: was the problem with Yeah.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 12: Fuck yeah, yeah that shit, it was fucking That was
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 12: peak Roman right there. Yes, that was him fully in
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 12: his tribal chief. I've been running this ship for years, bag, right,
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 12: So yeah, he got all stuff like you tried carrying
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 12: it on your back and look where it got you.
• 2:17:50
  Speaker 3: Around.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 13: You know.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 9: It's another good promo that year that I totally forgot about.
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 9: Do you guys remember when Paul Hayman got inducked in
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 9: the Hall of Fame? His Hall of Fame spiece was
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 9: pretty good. I remember that.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 15: I still haven't watched that because me and Dre were
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 15: at the u c W arena.
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 12: Yeah yeah, I have gone back and watched the sis then,
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 12: and yet it it's a it's a great speech. I
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 12: just didn't consider it to be a promo. That's why
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 12: I didn't Uh, that's why I didn't count it. But
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 12: as a speech, yeah, it's a great speech.
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, cool Doyle. Let's let's play this for the
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 9: Uh here we go.
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, we'll get to him, but first Birmingham, Alabama.
• 2:18:56
  Speaker 1: Acknowledge me. Now, the wise man will tell you. I
• 2:19:11
  Speaker 1: don't like to recap. I would prefer to move forward.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 1: But there were some things said on Monday.
• 2:19:19
  Speaker 3: That we just can't.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: Let's slide my little brother seth rawlins exactly, No, Pop.
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: He said he's got the title, the title, So I
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: had to think about him, like, did I beat everybody
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 1: competing for that title?
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 3: Doesn't that make all them my number two's?
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't we call that the loser bracket title? And then
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 1: he had at the audacity to say that he was
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: the guy. You can't be running around here for two
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: years and your wives clothes and say you're the guy.
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 3: And then he wants to say he's a workhorse.
• 2:20:16
  Speaker 1: But three months in he broke his back trying to
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 1: carry that show. Let me ask y'all this, do workhorses
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: walk like this?
• 2:20:34
  Speaker 14: Hell no?
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: And then he wants to attack my schedule. Oh, come on,
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: this is simple. I work less than you. Yes, that's true. Actually,
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: I work like ten times less than you, and I
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: still make ten times more than you. So I'll ask
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: y'all you want Seth Rowland's money or tribal chief money.
• 2:21:09
  Speaker 1: But see, Cody, he's an idiot. He's got values and
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: all that crap.
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 3: He don't really care about the.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 1: Money, I don't think, so I'm gonna break it down
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 1: to him very simple.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 3: This is a simple math here, Cody. I'm not gonna
• 2:21:25
  Speaker 3: beg you like the other guy.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: You can either be the very best number two in
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: this industry.
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 3: Or you can take a crack a number one. Again.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 3: It's your choice, all.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 9: Right, man, talk about some good fucking promos that year,
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 9: good fucking promos. I'm glad. I'm glad we didn't all
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 9: have the same ones because like, like I was literally
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 9: sitting there, like I was more focused on seeing Punk
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 9: Drew McIntyre and Seth Rollins once and Doyle, Like I
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 9: totally forgot about that, that that triangle of them all,
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 9: just three of them shitting on each other, because just
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 9: the three of them, that whole this whole year, Yeah exactly.
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Because it started off as just what Drew and
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 12: Drew and see him Punk in the ring and ship
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 12: and then Seth's music hits and fucking I think Punk
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 12: goes off fucking hell something like that, but not in
• 2:22:32
  Speaker 12: the mic. Yeah, yep, Drew freaking sitting on the Nawns
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 12: stables telling the cameraman, I'll try to look at my
• 2:22:38
  Speaker 12: scut you puff.
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah, even like h even like this week, when
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 9: seeing Punk is interrupted by Seth, he is, oh, why
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 9: can't somebody like ripley, uh you know, interrupt me? But uh,
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 9: all right, let's move on. We got two left. Let's
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 9: talk about match of the year. Uh, this was kind
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 9: of hard for me. Uh, I have too like a
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 9: runner up, second and honorable mention and then a first place. Okay,
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 9: I got the Men's War Games match as my honorable mention.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 9: Fucking loved it. I love that we finally got to
• 2:23:29
  Speaker 9: this point. This was what I wanted, This was my
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 9: end game. And we even had a little bit more
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 9: meat on the bone because we added you know, Sampunk,
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 9: we added Bronson Reed, which honestly didn't think it was
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 9: gonna make it better, but it made it a hell
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 9: of a lot better. People got injured, people got hurt,
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 9: people who I didn't want to get hurt didn't get hurt,
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 9: thank God. Uh So, I think it was great if
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 9: furthered the story, I think the right people won. It
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 9: was awesome solo. Finally, guys Comeuppins loved it. My second
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 9: place would be probably like one of the most obvious ones.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 9: I feel like, is is Cody beating Roman at WrestleMania.
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 9: And I'm gonna say it. I think a huge reason too,
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 9: is why it resonates so much as because I was
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 9: fucking there. We were there together. This is a huge moment.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 9: It was literally, like they said, like one of the
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 9: biggest WrestleManias of all time. I mean, we were there
• 2:24:36
  Speaker 9: for two days, and this story even went further, like
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 9: within two WrestleManias. It wasn't it didn't get its own WrestleMania.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 9: It it went over a two night period and it
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 9: even leaked a little bit over into Monday Night Raw
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 9: the next night. Ever, there were so many people involved
• 2:24:57
  Speaker 9: in the storyline. There were so many people involved in
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 9: the damn matches self, like I lost my voice during
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 9: the match. The right people went over the night before
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 9: we got the heel Rock. We got the most over
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 9: Roman reigns we've ever had. As a heel the longest
• 2:25:17
  Speaker 9: title run in recent history. Like, it was just everything.
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 9: I totally understand why it should get first place, but
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 9: it was it was second place for me because for me,
• 2:25:29
  Speaker 9: finally getting these two men into a fucking cell with
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 9: seam Punk and Drew McIntyre. God damn that bad blood.
• 2:25:39
  Speaker 13: Uh.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 9: I was really concerned about punkin and hurt in this match,
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 9: and thankfully like he was able to walk out and
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 9: not be injured. But this was just such a huge
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 9: feud of the year. We finally did get Seth versus
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 9: Drew mcin Seth versus Sampunk at the end of the year.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 9: But the other match that I was dying for all
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 9: year was was Drew McIntyre and Sandpunk. Uh did this this,
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 9: this build towards this was just cooking for so long.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 9: I mean, these guys were consistently screwing each other over,
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 9: you know, throughout throughout the year of winning titles, to
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 9: the point where even like Punk screw drew out of
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 9: a title, like he had the title for for minutes
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 9: minutes I WrestleMania and screwed them over and he lost
• 2:26:37
  Speaker 9: that title. Uh, and that elevated the feud even more.
• 2:26:42
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 9: Just you know, when you couldn't think of any way
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 9: to put these guys together, then they put them in
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 9: a hell in a cell where they beat this ship
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 9: out of each other, used all types of tools and stuff,
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 9: uh and weapons. I fucking loved it. But that, for
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 9: me was my match of the year. I kind of
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 9: hope you guys have different ones, maybe, dre What do
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 9: you have for matches of the year?
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 12: All right, So I got three of them, and they
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 12: to me, they all represent three different peaks of professional wrestling.
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 12: So my number three represents the peak of sports entertainment,
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 12: the pageantry, the performance, throwing everything you've got at it
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 12: as big as possible and putting it all out there
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 12: completely emptying both cannons, and that's Cody versus Roman and
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 12: WrestleMania forty.
• 2:27:47
  Speaker 3: That's as big as it can get. That's peak as
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 3: you can get.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 12: Cody finishing the story, climax, new champion, Samantha's you know,
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 12: calling of the winner, fireworks there, all of that. It's
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 12: peak as big as you can get. A number two
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 12: represents the peak of professional wrestling in the ring. It
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 12: represented this year the evolution of what two men in
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 12: a ring can do when they are among the best
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 12: at their craft, and you just put them in and
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 12: just say do you and you just let them cook,
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 12: and those two men put together.
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 3: A performance masterpiece.
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 12: And that is well Ospray versus Brianon Danielson at aaw Dynasty.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 12: If you want to show somebody, I think Doyle said
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 12: it earlier, you want to show a non wrestling fan,
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 12: but wrestling, like wrestling in the purest sense of the term,
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 12: looks like at its best, you show them that. But
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 12: that is my runner up because my winner represents, excuse me,
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 12: represents peak storytelling, okay, which you could argue could have
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 12: gone to Seth and I mean could have gone to
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 12: Cody and Roman, but no, for me, this is peak
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 12: storytelling from where it started at the beginning of the
• 2:29:27
  Speaker 12: year to its ultimate climax and Hell in a Cell
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 12: and that's Drew McIntire versu to see him Punk.
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 3: That match was.
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 12: Everything, all of the build up, all everything that had happened,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 12: all the shit talking on the mic. There are two
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 12: previous matches from there, one v. One to the SummerSlam
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 12: with Punk. As to whether the Drew match with Punk
• 2:29:56
  Speaker 12: as the referee, to their backstage beatdowns on each other,
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 12: to the to the the bracelet, all of it coming
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 12: to a head and the most brutal fuck you were
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 12: settled this ship once and for all kind of way,
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 12: and they absolutely delivered on it. They brought Hell and
• 2:30:19
  Speaker 12: the Cell back to what it's supposed to be and
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 12: it's glory.
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 3: Even if some of the.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 12: Blood was inadvertent, it helped elevate the match and was
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 12: again peak storytelling in its climactic form.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 3: So that's my match of the year.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 9: Cool all right.
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 15: A couple of honorable mentions here Gunter and Sammy and
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 15: Bailey and Eo from WrestleMania both really fun matches, and
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 15: then on the same raw.
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 13: I guess it was right before War WrestleMania, I want to.
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 15: Say, Gunter and Seamus had a fucking banger and Draggon
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 15: off and Ricochet also had a banger on that same episode,
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 15: the match where Gable turned heel on Sammy.
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 13: That match was great, and the Women's Royal Rumble match
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 13: I thought was great. This year runner up. I had
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 13: Cody finish in the story.
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean just the pageantry, the I mean, was
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 15: it a Was it a great match in the technical sense, No,
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 15: of course not, but yeah, it was that Avengers endgame.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 15: Here comes everybody, you know, all hands on that kind
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 15: of moment, and it was a really cool thing to
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 15: be there to see live. But yeah, I mean match
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 15: of the year. It's a it's a I think a
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 15: different podcast might have called this a Tupperware party because
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 15: it's Drew and punk hell usl uh. You know, there
• 2:31:54
  Speaker 15: have been so many bad HELENSL matches the past couple
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 15: of years, you know, And even though this was like
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 15: the blowoff for like the Feud of the year, really
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 15: I really went in not expecting a whole hell of
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 15: a lot, and I don't think that my enjoyment of
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 15: the match was fueled by the low expectations, because boy
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 15: was I happy to be wrong. You know, this match
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 15: kind of proved you don't need to do four fifty splashes,
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 15: you don't need to throw somebody off the roof of
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 15: the cell, you know, to have a great Hellen of
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 15: Cel match. You know, I love the homages. There were
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 15: a couple of homages to the first Helen of Cell
• 2:32:37
  Speaker 15: match between Shawn Michaels and The Undertaker. They did an
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 15: homage to one of my favorite matches of all time
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 15: for WrestleMania thirteen, the stone cold Brett Hart match. It
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 15: had one of my favorite gimmicks ever, which is where
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 15: they pull out the bag of thumb tacks, only to
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 15: reveal that the thumb tacks aren't thumbtacks.
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 13: You know. In this case, they were friendship bracelet beads.
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 15: Hell, they got a fucking French bracelet over, you know
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 15: what I mean. But just fucking hard hitting, great psychology
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 15: to blow off to a year long blood feud. Uh,
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 15: you know, And it kind of happened by accident because
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 15: if if Drew had never injured or see, if Punk
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 15: doesn't get injured in the rumble cut, you know while
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 15: taking a move from Drew, maybe none of this happened.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 13: Uh you know, And that's kind of a great thing
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 13: about this, uh, this whole art form, if you will.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 15: It's just, you know, the littlest things can change everything,
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 15: you know. And you know, I'm you know, I don't
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 15: like Punk, so was I a little happy when he
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 15: got hurt? Sure, But little did I know that it
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 15: would result.
• 2:33:45
  Speaker 13: In this fucking absolute classic.
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 13: I watch it again this afternoon. I loved it just
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 13: as much.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 9: Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome.
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 13: Yeah, but I but, like I said, earlier. If you
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 13: want to go every promotion, will Osprey is the top
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 13: ten matches because that guy's just fucking them real.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Like I said, I watched that Osprey Danielson match
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 12: again last night, and yeah, fucking phenomenal there was. It
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 12: wasn't just you know, two guys just doing a whole
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 12: bunch of little cool flippy moves and all stuff.
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 3: There were psychology in there.
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 12: You got chain wrestling, you got acrobatics, you got brutality,
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 12: you got storytelling in within the match itself, and you
• 2:34:31
  Speaker 12: got a good finish.
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 13: Absolutely cool.
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 9: Alright, guys, moving on to the main events. Who is
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 9: our male and female Superstar of the Year. Uh? For me,
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 9: females I have on this list, it's hard for me
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 9: to pick. Uh. Honorable mention Chelsea Green. You know, girl went.
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 9: I mean, out of all the rehires that Triple Ah did,
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 9: she has done the best. She is now the first
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 9: ever Women's United States Champion. She was Tag Champ Tag
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 9: Champion for a while. Uh. You know, I'm glad that
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 9: that they have a gimmick for her that works. She's
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 9: pretty good in the ring. She has another wrestling superstar
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 9: that works with her. She's currently our champion. Yeah, she
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 9: just kept going up and up. She's just one of
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 9: those people who's since she's been on the roster again,
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 9: she's just been going nothing but up. I don't think
• 2:35:52
  Speaker 9: Chelsea has had a down since she's been back on
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 9: the roster, and that's great, and it's kind of elevating
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 9: maybe pie for Nevin a little bit being with her,
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 9: so they're kind of helping each other out doing well.
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 9: Having a mid card title has been doing what I
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 9: think it's gonna do wonders for for girls like Chelsea Green.
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 9: Second place for me, that would have been Tiffy. I
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 9: mean we talked about it through and through already on
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 9: this episode. How Tiffany Stratton has gone from you know,
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 9: uh from NXT to the main roster to money Bank
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 9: winner to you know, full blown Women's Champion WW champion.
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 9: I mean, it's fucking awesome with within a year's time,
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 9: you know, another wrestler who's been shot shot straight to
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 9: the moon. She's lost a few matches, but she's been
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 9: in high profile matches, like you know, she didn't win
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 9: the elimination Chamber, but we do remember her spot, you know, uh,
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 9: we remember her spot in War Games. You know, she
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 9: had some pretty good spots, and for me, Female of
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 9: the Year is liv Morgan. It was pretty hard. There's
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 9: some other people I kind of considered, but you know,
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 9: I just think lives revenge to her just fucking dominate,
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 9: you know this year. You know, like I said, coming
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 9: back from injury, being surprised entering in the rumble, that was,
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 9: you know, shocking when she came back and you know,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 9: taking re out and taking advantage of that injury and
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 9: then just taking over judgment day, taking dom and then
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 9: just taking her gimmick and character to a whole new level.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 9: Like you said before Dre earlier, like when she beat
• 2:37:46
  Speaker 9: Ronda Rousey. I mean it was hard to take her
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 9: kind of serious because she kind of won that on
• 2:37:51
  Speaker 9: a money to bank cash in and I still didn't
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 9: take her that serious as a champion. But now very serious,
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 9: very very areas, and she's still a dirty dumb from
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 9: Male Superstar of the Year, you know, honorable mention, believe
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 9: it or not, Roman reigns. Uh, this guy lost everything
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 9: this year. He had, he had it all, and in
• 2:38:22
  Speaker 9: the middle of the year he lost it all. He
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 9: lost he lost his ooses, he lost Jimmy en j
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 9: he lost Sammy Zain, he lost the Wise Man, he
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 9: lost his Gold, he lost his Ulafalla, he lost Solo,
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 9: he lost his whole tribe man, and he got it
• 2:38:43
  Speaker 9: all back, but as a face, but kind of not
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 9: a face like Romans still kind of heal right, I
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 9: mean like it's kind of undecided, I you know, like
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 9: he's just that loved, Like it doesn't matter if he's
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 9: heal or face. We still you know not and uh,
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 9: you know, second place for me is Jay Uso. Okay Jauso.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 9: Holy crap, out of the two oosas. Didn't think that
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 9: Jay was gonna be the huge breakout star that he was,
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 9: didn't think he was gonna go as far as he did.
• 2:39:23
  Speaker 9: I'm fucking impressed. Uh, this guy held a intercontinental title
• 2:39:29
  Speaker 9: and I don't I don't see him as just a
• 2:39:32
  Speaker 9: tag team wrestler anymore. I now see him as a
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 9: you know, a higher tier mid card wrestler right now,
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 9: not yet, not yet main event jay Usso, but he
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 9: is getting there and for me, the superstar of the year,
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 9: believe or not. He doesn't have a lot of wins
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 9: under his belt this year. Uh, but I think the
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 9: momentum of his character, his growth of his character has
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 9: gone very far, and that's Drew McIntire, not Treu McIntire. Sorry, Gunther,
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 9: I was stuck between Guther and Drew. I'm sorry I
• 2:40:09
  Speaker 9: was stuck between Gunther and Drew because Drew has lost
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 9: a lot this year, but Gunther has won a lot
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 9: this year, and that both their characters have gone so far.
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 9: But for me, it was it was a tie between
• 2:40:20
  Speaker 9: the two. But I'm gonna have to say it's gonna
• 2:40:22
  Speaker 9: have to go to Gunther. Gunther has set in the
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 9: longest reigning Intercontinental title run and he just had all
• 2:40:33
  Speaker 9: that momentum going into WrestleMania. They found a way to
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 9: get the title off of him but not hurt his character,
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 9: and then he just he went right to the world
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 9: title scene and he had great matches with Damian Priest,
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 9: Randy Orton, seamous throughout the year. I I just think
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 9: from from you know, the second he's entered the main roster,
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 9: Gunter has gone nothing but uh, that man has had
• 2:41:05
  Speaker 9: a rocket strapped to his back. Uh you know, Nick,
• 2:41:11
  Speaker 9: Now we we're at the point in his career like
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 9: he's lost half of imperium and he's still going. He's
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 9: wonderful in the mic. He's great in the fucking ring.
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 9: He puts on banger matches, and he feels like, definitely,
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 9: he feels like a different champion. The World title to
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 9: me right now feels different than the ww title. He
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 9: feels like a very different type of champion because Gunster
• 2:41:41
  Speaker 9: doesn't wrestle a whole lot throughout the year, as he
• 2:41:45
  Speaker 9: was kind of in back on the back burner in
• 2:41:47
  Speaker 9: the past few months because of the other title in
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 9: the scene and the Bloodline taking over a lot of stuff.
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 9: He just wasn't in it a lot of matches, you know,
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 9: I think here, I have a list he was only in.
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 9: He's at the Rumble, he was at rustle Mania, he
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 9: had a match King and Queen of the Ring, Summer Slam,
• 2:42:12
  Speaker 9: Bash of Berlin, Crown Jewels Survivor Series. That's it, you know,
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 9: because he was used very wisely throughout that year, and
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 9: now we're at the point where we're trying to figure
• 2:42:25
  Speaker 9: out how to get the gold off of him and
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 9: get him in another high profile match without the gold
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 9: on him. But yeah, like I said, and like I said,
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 9: I also consider Drew McIntyre, But guys have a lot
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 9: of losses this year, even though he has such great
• 2:42:40
  Speaker 9: character growth dre before I ramble on forever.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 12: All right, So with my male and female wrestlers of
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 12: the Year, in my philosophy is always just as it
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 12: was last year, the ones who were carrying their divisions
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 12: or the company the most, who were putting in that
• 2:43:08
  Speaker 12: work consistently out the year and doing the carrying. So
• 2:43:12
  Speaker 12: a couple of honorable mentions I'll start on the women's side.
• 2:43:18
  Speaker 12: Definite honorable mention to Live Morgan because yeah, you could
• 2:43:24
  Speaker 12: argue she was definitely holding down the raw women's division
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 12: in the absence of the big name stars like Rhea
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 12: who was out injured in Becky and the absence of
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 12: a Charlotte, she definitely took her game to the next
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 12: level and that definitely deserves recognition. Same for Tony Storm
• 2:43:41
  Speaker 12: with her character work throughout the year, and Chelsea Green
• 2:43:44
  Speaker 12: by that same token, their character definitely got them over
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 12: and took them to the next level this year. Honorable
• 2:43:50
  Speaker 12: mention to Tiffany Stratton as well. You know, she definitely
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 12: had a you know, Rookie of the Year campaign. You know,
• 2:43:59
  Speaker 12: if that was an award, I would probably give it
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 12: to her for Rookie of the Year, so she deserves
• 2:44:03
  Speaker 12: recognition for that, But my women's Wrestler of the Year
• 2:44:10
  Speaker 12: is actually Roxanne Perez on n XT. She held down
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 12: the NXT Women's division this year, and like I said,
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 12: as I said earlier, I may not catch a whole
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 12: lot of NXT all the time, but one person that
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 12: I was tuned in on throughout the year was rox
• 2:44:29
  Speaker 12: and Perez, and she was down there putting in work.
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 12: From she held the NXT Women's Championship through the majority
• 2:44:37
  Speaker 12: of the year she held top. She held banger matches
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 12: with everybody up and down the roster, from Julia later
• 2:44:47
  Speaker 12: on to Lyra Valkyria who she beat to win the title.
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 12: She helped banger matches with Jordan Grayson to crossover with TNA,
• 2:44:56
  Speaker 12: Lola Ice, Jada Parker constantly and you know, elevated that
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 12: women's division to where the point that now they can
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 12: legitimately claim to be arguably the best women's division in wrestling,
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 12: and that's putting them up against the SmackDown roster, putting
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 12: them up against the raw roster, putting them up against
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 12: aw TNA. NXT can stand toe to toe with all
• 2:45:22
  Speaker 12: of them in terms of talent and ability and the
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 12: workers that they have, And who was the person who
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 12: was at the forefront, who was the one carrying the
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 12: banner for that throughout the year at the leader it
• 2:45:37
  Speaker 12: was Rox and Perez, and she elevated that division and
• 2:45:42
  Speaker 12: herself along with it. So she gets my nod for
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 12: Women's Wrestler of the Year. Now on the men's side,
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 12: you mentioned Gunter. Yes, he had a great year, phenomenal
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 12: year from ic champ to World Heavyweight cham. But he
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 12: kind of fell flat for me a little bit towards
• 2:46:03
  Speaker 12: the end of the year. Now I could go to
• 2:46:07
  Speaker 12: Dirty Dame. His character worked throughout the year, took he'll
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 12: work to the next level, but again, kind of fell
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 12: a little flat towards the end. Looks like he's kind
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 12: of starting getting played a little bit by Live. But
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 12: when he was hot, he was as hot as it
• 2:46:24
  Speaker 12: could be. James so definitely had a up breakout year,
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 12: you know, definitely up and coming year for him. But
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 12: as much as much as I was big on him,
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 12: and as over as I got as I was on him,
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 12: and I still am, the more and more I watched,
• 2:46:44
  Speaker 12: the more and more I'm starting to fear that he
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 12: may be plateauing a bit.
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 3: He's still again as hot as can be.
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 12: He's still obviously the reactions have not dipped in him
• 2:46:57
  Speaker 12: in the slightest bit, but it's more so on him
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 12: of where's that next level? That's what That's the next
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 12: thing I need to see from Jay. I need to
• 2:47:06
  Speaker 12: see him take that step to the next level, and
• 2:47:09
  Speaker 12: not in terms of booking, but in terms of his
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 12: individual performance. That's that's the next thing I want to
• 2:47:16
  Speaker 12: see from him. But he did have a year worth noting.
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 12: Same thing with Drew. Obviously his heel work. If we
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 12: were separating between face and heel of the year, Drew
• 2:47:28
  Speaker 12: would be my heel of the year without question. But
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 12: my choice it may feel like a safe choice, but
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 12: I'm going with Cody Rhods. I think Cody Rhodes really
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 12: one solidified himself as the face of the company now
• 2:47:48
  Speaker 12: he has taken that title from Roman. Romans maybe still
• 2:47:52
  Speaker 12: be over his hell, may still be that top guy,
• 2:47:56
  Speaker 12: but Cody has done now what the Rock did the
• 2:48:01
  Speaker 12: Stone Cold back in two thousand. He took that mantle
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 12: and said I'm the face. Now, I'm the guy. Yeah,
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 12: you might be one, b you might be number one
• 2:48:14
  Speaker 12: with me. But I'm one A now and you're one B.
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 12: And I think Cody did that this year between finishing
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 12: the story and some people might be down on his
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 12: run or think he hasn't had that great run.
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 3: I disagree.
• 2:48:27
  Speaker 12: I think he started off good with having good matches
• 2:48:31
  Speaker 12: with aj Styles in the series that they had leading
• 2:48:34
  Speaker 12: with the e Quiit match. I think he moved on
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 12: and had bangers with the tag team match when he
• 2:48:44
  Speaker 12: got back with Roman, when they teamed up in fortnir Thing, which,
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 12: by the way, just segueing back to our promo of
• 2:48:52
  Speaker 12: the year, that sequence that they had in the stadium
• 2:48:55
  Speaker 12: that we kind of feel I should have brought that
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 12: up as one of the promos of the year because
• 2:48:59
  Speaker 12: I thought that shit was phenomenal outside of all the
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 12: overproduction from the beginning, once they got face to face,
• 2:49:04
  Speaker 12: that was dope. But yeah, from the start of the
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 12: year to the end of the year, Cody held it
• 2:49:10
  Speaker 12: down as the face. He put in the work and
• 2:49:13
  Speaker 12: really carried the company throughout the year.
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 3: So for instance, to me, he's my wrestler of the Year.
• 2:49:22
  Speaker 9: Awesome man, Cody Doyle, How do you feel about this man?
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 14: What do you got?
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 3: Yep, that's a good one.
• 2:49:38
  Speaker 9: Are you there?
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 15: Sorry, silence, I can't remember what I'm saying. As for
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 15: the women, uh, you know, I feel like any year
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 15: you can pencil Ria or Bianca or Bailey or Eo
• 2:49:54
  Speaker 15: into the running, you know, as long as they're not
• 2:49:56
  Speaker 15: injured or retired or whatever. When I think about who
• 2:50:01
  Speaker 15: didn't lose a big chunk of the year for injury,
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 15: we'll spend a lot of the year in a tag team. Really,
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 15: the only choice I think is liv Morgan, who I
• 2:50:13
  Speaker 15: already think I said my piece about, so I don't
• 2:50:16
  Speaker 15: really have anything else to add except for my money.
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 15: She had the best, most complete year of anybody on
• 2:50:24
  Speaker 15: the women's side.
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 13: On the men's side, no honorable mansions, no runner up,
• 2:50:29
  Speaker 13: only one man was easily easily my favorite wrestler of
• 2:50:33
  Speaker 13: the year. And gentlemen, we have three different answers. We'd
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 13: be happy to know.
• 2:50:39
  Speaker 15: This guy absolutely crushed it in the ring and on the mic,
• 2:50:43
  Speaker 15: and while he didn't invent being an internet troll, he
• 2:50:47
  Speaker 15: fucking perfected it and made it an art form all
• 2:50:49
  Speaker 15: of its own. I'm, of course talking about the Scottish
• 2:50:52
  Speaker 15: warrior dere McIntyre. You know, he carried two major feuds
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 15: where his dance partner was basically unavailable.
• 2:51:01
  Speaker 13: For most of the time.
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:51:02
  Speaker 15: You know, so not only did he keep that Punk
• 2:51:04
  Speaker 15: feud going for months while Punk was injured, he kept
• 2:51:08
  Speaker 15: that Mania program with Seth alive while Seth was off
• 2:51:10
  Speaker 15: playing with the Rock and Roman and Cody.
• 2:51:13
  Speaker 13: Uh so Drew really had to do a lot of
• 2:51:15
  Speaker 13: work there on his own for both those feuds. And
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 13: you could.
• 2:51:19
  Speaker 15: I mean, I think Drew Punk was the feud of
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 15: the year, but Drew Seth was right, you know, right
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 15: behind it. Uh you know, I said before it, but
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 15: I think it bears repeating.
• 2:51:32
  Speaker 13: He got a fucking friendship bracelet over, like you know,
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 13: in saying that is.
• 2:51:39
  Speaker 15: You know, I feel like any giving year, Drew's gonna
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 15: have a great year. But you know, and I even
• 2:51:46
  Speaker 15: said I said this earlier. Also, I wonder one of
• 2:51:48
  Speaker 15: the unanswerable questions, would Drew have had as great a
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 15: year if he hadn't injured Punk? You know, I just
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 15: that just seems like such an inflection point where you know,
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 15: you go back time and step on a butterfly and
• 2:52:01
  Speaker 15: come back and everything's different. I feel like if that
• 2:52:04
  Speaker 15: hadn't happened, who knows.
• 2:52:07
  Speaker 13: What would have happened. I certainly don't we'll ever know,
• 2:52:10
  Speaker 13: but you know, he got handed the ball, he fucking
• 2:52:13
  Speaker 13: ran with it.
• 2:52:15
  Speaker 15: And I think he had a better year than anybody
• 2:52:16
  Speaker 15: else in the w WE.
• 2:52:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, very valid, and yeah, I agree with you, Drew
• 2:52:24
  Speaker 12: and Punk was the feud of the year, if we
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 12: had a category for that, hands down feud of the year.
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 12: As far as him taking the ball and running with it,
• 2:52:33
  Speaker 12: he definitely did. Because remember round last year, well not
• 2:52:37
  Speaker 12: last year, but into twenty twenty three, there were still
• 2:52:41
  Speaker 12: questions about his contract status, whether he was going to
• 2:52:46
  Speaker 12: continue or whether he was going to leave or take
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 12: it ball to go home, because he was kind of
• 2:52:52
  Speaker 12: being lost in the sauce in twenty twenty three. He
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 12: had kind of fallen down on the roster and was
• 2:52:56
  Speaker 12: kind of just there and not.
• 2:52:57
  Speaker 3: Really doing much.
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 12: And you know, we thought that when when the news
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 12: came that he did finally re signed with the company,
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 12: we thought, Okay, they must have promised about a title
• 2:53:07
  Speaker 12: run or something like that for it or what have you.
• 2:53:10
  Speaker 12: And he got a title run for all of five minutes.
• 2:53:14
  Speaker 12: But he turned out to get something much greater than that,
• 2:53:18
  Speaker 12: and that was high profile feuds that ran throughout the
• 2:53:22
  Speaker 12: link of the year and had phenomenal matches to go
• 2:53:26
  Speaker 12: with it, So he really elevated his cache in a
• 2:53:29
  Speaker 12: whole new way.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and for me, the most impressive thing was that
• 2:53:34
  Speaker 15: the two guys he was feuding with were I mean,
• 2:53:37
  Speaker 15: Seth was physically elsewhere doing other things, and Punk was
• 2:53:42
  Speaker 15: physically un you know, you couldn't he couldn't bump, he
• 2:53:44
  Speaker 15: couldn't do anything. And to manage both of those things
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 15: keep both of those feuds alive.
• 2:53:51
  Speaker 13: It was super impressive in my opinion.
• 2:53:53
  Speaker 15: He was just doing one was impressive, but two in
• 2:53:55
  Speaker 15: one year, I think super impressive.
• 2:54:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was great fucking storytelling throughout the whole year,
• 2:54:03
  Speaker 9: I mean keeping I didn't think we could keep fuse
• 2:54:07
  Speaker 9: on burners like that and keep us interested in intrigues
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 9: throughout that long and they fucking did it, which makes me, uh,
• 2:54:16
  Speaker 9: you know, it is promising for the future.
• 2:54:20
  Speaker 3: So well, it's kind of wild when you think about it.
• 2:54:26
  Speaker 12: As much as some people kind of are down on
• 2:54:29
  Speaker 12: this long form storytelling or the dragged out stories lines
• 2:54:33
  Speaker 12: and stuff. Well, we're looking back on the year review,
• 2:54:37
  Speaker 12: what are we highlighting the most of the longest stories
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 12: that ran throughout the year, Drew In Seth, Live in Rhea,
• 2:54:46
  Speaker 12: the blood Line. Those storylines that ran the longest are
• 2:54:49
  Speaker 12: the ones we tend to remember the most.
• 2:54:52
  Speaker 13: Yep.
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 9: Oh, very true, very true.
• 2:54:56
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and I mean predictable isn't necessarily bad as long
• 2:55:01
  Speaker 15: as it's well done.
• 2:55:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah, exactly, as long if anybody, if anything's taught us
• 2:55:05
  Speaker 12: that it's the fucking Bloodline story.
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 2:55:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah, predictable, but but played out very fucking.
• 2:55:13
  Speaker 3: Well, very well in the execution.
• 2:55:17
  Speaker 9: Ye yes, sir, oh, I know I want to bramp
• 2:55:24
  Speaker 9: before we wrap this show up. This has been a
• 2:55:25
  Speaker 9: long ass episode. Uh real quick. Saturday Night main Events
• 2:55:31
  Speaker 9: this weekend. I'm gonna rattle off the card here. We
• 2:55:35
  Speaker 9: got World Heavyweight champions.
• 2:55:37
  Speaker 15: Is gonna have to watch Jays not win the world
• 2:55:39
  Speaker 15: title again, and I'm gonna have to watch Seamus not
• 2:55:41
  Speaker 15: win I see.
• 2:55:44
  Speaker 12: Right, yell each other each other afterwards a ship man exactly.
• 2:55:53
  Speaker 9: We're getting Guns versus Jay Lusso, and then Intercontinental Champion
• 2:55:57
  Speaker 9: brown Breaker versus Seamus again, and then Bronze Strowman versus
• 2:56:02
  Speaker 9: Jacob Fau, which might be like one of the most
• 2:56:04
  Speaker 9: interesting matches on the card.
• 2:56:07
  Speaker 3: Interesting, it better not be fucking interesting.
• 2:56:12
  Speaker 12: It better not be fucking interesting a glorified squa, right,
• 2:56:16
  Speaker 12: Jacob better beat the ship out of fuckingan.
• 2:56:21
  Speaker 9: Uh real Ripley Verse Night Jacks. That'll be good. Cody
• 2:56:26
  Speaker 9: Rhodes and Kevin Owens sent set for a Royal Rumble
• 2:56:31
  Speaker 9: contract signing. So we got signing going on.
• 2:56:37
  Speaker 12: Yay, right, that's gonna get up a good chunk of
• 2:56:41
  Speaker 12: the two hours. Yeah, so is that where we're gonna
• 2:56:44
  Speaker 12: get three matches in a drawn out segment?
• 2:56:47
  Speaker 9: Well, four matches because we're getting yeah, the world's heavyweight
• 2:56:52
  Speaker 9: title Intercontinental.
• 2:56:55
  Speaker 3: I forgot rial and uh Naya Jacks.
• 2:56:58
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I guess we all could forget that.
• 2:57:02
  Speaker 3: So yeah, four matches in a in a contract signing.
• 2:57:05
  Speaker 9: Four matches in a contract.
• 2:57:08
  Speaker 15: And Hogan's been in all the commercials, so we might
• 2:57:12
  Speaker 15: get his old ass to try it out there.
• 2:57:15
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it'll be the only interest in that is to
• 2:57:17
  Speaker 12: see if Texas reacts any difference to California.
• 2:57:21
  Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Actually, before you got on, I was on
• 2:57:25
  Speaker 9: with Doyle and I played the seampunk calling Hogan. I
• 2:57:28
  Speaker 9: want to play real quick. It's like eleven seconds.
• 2:57:31
  Speaker 4: Uh, you put whold Hogan in the raw rumble, I'll
• 2:57:35
  Speaker 4: throw his justy ass over the top rope, and I'll
• 2:57:39
  Speaker 4: tell hook Amedia funcing for all.
• 2:57:44
  Speaker 12: Jesus it was Holgan will say, not a goddamn thing.
• 2:57:50
  Speaker 9: I'll tell you something, brother, if I if I was
• 2:57:53
  Speaker 9: twenty years younger.
• 2:57:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet right.
• 2:57:59
  Speaker 12: If Hogan got in his brain cells left in him,
• 2:58:01
  Speaker 12: he will not open his mouth against the him punk
• 2:58:04
  Speaker 12: because he will go the fuck off on him.
• 2:58:07
  Speaker 9: Yeah, that is that? Like the now is this gonna
• 2:58:10
  Speaker 9: be a new thing where it's like we're gonna shoop
• 2:58:12
  Speaker 9: on whole comania, like his whole comania? Now?
• 2:58:15
  Speaker 12: Like, No, I think that was just off the cuff
• 2:58:19
  Speaker 12: because I didn't somebody happen to mention didn't didn't? Uh
• 2:58:23
  Speaker 12: didn't She mentioned Hulk Hogan for some reason beforehand, And
• 2:58:27
  Speaker 12: that's what kind of.
• 2:58:29
  Speaker 3: I thought.
• 2:58:30
  Speaker 12: So I don't think, you know, hu Cogan out of
• 2:58:33
  Speaker 12: his ass, out of nowhere, something something happening before.
• 2:58:36
  Speaker 3: I think that triggered the Hulk Hogan. Uh.
• 2:58:41
  Speaker 9: You don't have to be triggered to hate Hogan. It's
• 2:58:43
  Speaker 9: just it's a natural thing.
• 2:58:45
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, you don't have to be triggered. But I think,
• 2:58:46
  Speaker 12: like I said, he didn't just he didn't pull that
• 2:58:48
  Speaker 12: out of thin air.
• 2:58:49
  Speaker 9: That's yeah, I get it.
• 2:58:56
  Speaker 21: Well, yeah, I mean, that's that's all I got for
• 2:58:59
  Speaker 21: saying it's main event that's exciting on the twenty fifth
• 2:59:04
  Speaker 21: at a o'clock Eastern, folks, and then we're gonna fit in.
• 2:59:13
  Speaker 9: When we can the Royal Rumble predictions, because right now,
• 2:59:18
  Speaker 9: as listed for the Royal Rumble, the women participants that
• 2:59:22
  Speaker 9: are announced are Naya, Jacks and Bailey. That's it. So
• 2:59:28
  Speaker 9: it makes me think that Naya is not going to
• 2:59:30
  Speaker 9: win the title if she's already entering herself in the rumble. Well,
• 2:59:34
  Speaker 9: I don't know. The men's what's that.
• 2:59:39
  Speaker 3: I'd rather not see all a whole bunch of people
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 3: declaring I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. We know you're in.
• 2:59:46
  Speaker 9: I know I don't have to declaring. But although listen
• 2:59:51
  Speaker 9: to this stacked card for just the men's thus far,
• 2:59:55
  Speaker 9: l A Knight, Sammy Zay, Ray, Mysterio, Drew McIntyre, Jay Uso,
• 3:00:05
  Speaker 9: See Him, Punk, John Cena, seth Rawlins and Roman Reigns.
• 3:00:14
  Speaker 9: It's already a pretty awesome fucking rumble. And that's.
• 3:00:20
  Speaker 12: Yeah, everybody that we already knew was gonna answer now,
• 3:00:23
  Speaker 12: to their credit, I will say that is a hell
• 3:00:26
  Speaker 12: of five stack roster, and it could arguably rival the
• 3:00:29
  Speaker 12: two thousand and one Rumble, which was probably the most
• 3:00:32
  Speaker 12: one of the most stack rosters we've ever seen.
• 3:00:35
  Speaker 13: Now, like, yeah, this is almost a year. You don't
• 3:00:38
  Speaker 13: want surprises at least no men's match. Fucking you can
• 3:00:43
  Speaker 13: pick thirty guys on the active roster, right You can
• 3:00:45
  Speaker 13: pick fifty guys on the active roster right now that
• 3:00:48
  Speaker 13: you would probably want to see in that match.
• 3:00:50
  Speaker 9: But like those nine guys, I see the final four
• 3:00:54
  Speaker 9: already in there, Sena, Punk Roman and maybe either Sammy
• 3:01:01
  Speaker 9: or not Sammy as Seth or Drew. That's why I
• 3:01:04
  Speaker 9: sees my final four. But then I'm forgetting probably aload
• 3:01:07
  Speaker 9: of people.
• 3:01:09
  Speaker 12: I mean, because those names are so big, They're not
• 3:01:11
  Speaker 12: gonna make it to the final four. Because you gotta
• 3:01:13
  Speaker 12: have that surprise exit, per gonna make it. They just
• 3:01:17
  Speaker 12: put it out early to feel the fuel a later storyline.
• 3:01:21
  Speaker 12: I still say Jays is gonna be one of the
• 3:01:23
  Speaker 12: final four.
• 3:01:25
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I I I say that, And Sina.
• 3:01:27
  Speaker 3: For sure, I think he needs it.
• 3:01:30
  Speaker 9: I think I think Sina's gotta win this, dude, He's
• 3:01:33
  Speaker 9: gotta fucking win this. But but maybe that's why he
• 3:01:36
  Speaker 9: doesn't win it, because it's so fucking predictable. All Right,
• 3:01:40
  Speaker 9: I gotta calm down because I can enter up another
• 3:01:43
  Speaker 9: episode when we're not even ready to talk rumble. It's
• 3:01:48
  Speaker 9: fucking juicy already, folks, it's fucking juicy already.
• 3:01:54
  Speaker 14: Alright, alright, alright, alright.
• 3:01:57
  Speaker 9: I close all these windows on my computer because if
• 3:01:58
  Speaker 9: now I'm gonna say here all night, we're gonna talk
• 3:02:00
  Speaker 9: about the rumble. Sorry, too late? All right, guys, do
• 3:02:06
  Speaker 9: you guys have anything else you want to plug for tonight? Anybody?
• 3:02:11
  Speaker 9: Anybody at all?
• 3:02:12
  Speaker 12: Anyway, nothing at the moment, as always, Instagram, dot Com, slash,
• 3:02:17
  Speaker 12: PCW podcast.
• 3:02:21
  Speaker 9: Cool Doyle, Do you have anything you want to plug?
• 3:02:25
  Speaker 13: Yep, just like the Facebook page.
• 3:02:28
  Speaker 15: I believe it is under PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
• 3:02:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and uh find us on Twitter and uh of
• 3:02:37
  Speaker 9: course always in the discord. All right, guys. With that said,
• 3:02:43
  Speaker 9: which one of these buttons am I going to play
• 3:02:45
  Speaker 9: us out on? Oh wherever? I'll play us out on
• 3:02:48
  Speaker 9: this one?
• 3:02:49
  Speaker 8: What can I say except your welcome.
• 3:03:00
  Speaker 1: You are the world's dumbest sign up a bitch.
• 3:03:07
  Speaker 6: Fack That day in and day out for almost sixty years.
• 3:03:10
  Speaker 2: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
• 3:03:14
  Speaker 2: best on this microphone, in that brain, even in commentary.
• 3:03:18
  Speaker 6: Nobody can touch me.
• 3:03:20
  Speaker 8: You are not proving fat.
• 3:03:25
  Speaker 10: Because the extreme perfect.
• 3:03:28
  Speaker 7: And we watch that mom.
• 3:03:31
  Speaker 4: Your talk about your songs, talk about John three sixteen,
• 3:03:39
  Speaker 4: Mobstad three sixteen says I just whipped your ass.
• 3:03:44
  Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you, fucking brother.
• 3:03:48
  Speaker 8: Brock no day, Queen, praise to the top o.
• 3:03:59
  Speaker 7: You, my true madness, Welcome to the tepan Owen Show.
• 3:04:06
  Speaker 6: Lately, he just hasn't been Harry Husi.
• 3:04:12
  Speaker 7: Because I'm know this and I'm ah so those rotten fastest.
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 6: Bye bye.
• 3:04:31
  Speaker 7: It's