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The Last of Us Season 2 Full Review · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Another episode showtime with the Cube. We have got the
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  Speaker 1: immaculate one himself, mister Ryder late doing it this once
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  Speaker 1: again for the last of us in the last of
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  Speaker 1: this season. Mister rider Ley, how are you doing this?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing great, Cube, and hopefully this is the last
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  Speaker 2: time we ever talked about this show.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if I'm great, they may be coming
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  Speaker 1: out with two more seasons, not one more season, but
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  Speaker 1: two more seasons. This is the rumblings that we're getting
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  Speaker 1: currently right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and their audience drop off of this last episode,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how it's going to go. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if they're going to be able to I don't
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  Speaker 2: think HBO because HBO is all about the hits. HBO
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  Speaker 2: is about the hits. They want the hits, they want
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  Speaker 2: the audience there, and that's what HBO has been known for. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: in this last episode had a fifty five percent drop
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  Speaker 2: off of viewership. That's over half. Nobody wants to see that.
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  Speaker 2: No streaming platform, no company wants to ever see that.
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  Speaker 2: Could you imagine if you had, like, that's super devastating, Cube.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how those numbers look good. That's a
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  Speaker 2: bad number. I don't nobody ever if they had a
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  Speaker 2: fifty five percent drop off on anything. Let's say you're
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  Speaker 2: selling something. Let's say you had a business. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: say you're selling freaking jelly or whatever, bread or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is. Just you see a fifty five percent drop off.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty five percent of people are no longer buying your goods.
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  Speaker 2: You're in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Bro that the sirens player and then everything. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, the perge siren might be
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  Speaker 1: going on. You know, that's what you might be hearing
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  Speaker 1: in the background. Uh, it could be something. Let me
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  Speaker 1: see if I got out here, we go.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is what.
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Folks are sounding the alarm. It's like a well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So when you see something like that, do you gather
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  Speaker 1: everybody together and trying to figure out what happened? Or
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  Speaker 1: do you already kind of know what happened? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think they're aware of what happened.
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  Speaker 2: They had to have known what happened. I mean, they
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  Speaker 2: had all of the information from the second game. They
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  Speaker 2: knew that. Everybody did not like the second game. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: they hated it. Very few people like the second game
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  Speaker 2: of the Last of.
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  Speaker 1: Us, so they have The first game was a masterpiece.
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  Speaker 1: They say first Games masterpiece.
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  Speaker 2: Just like everyone thought with the first season. I thought
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  Speaker 2: that it was a masterpiece. I was like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 2: this is great, this is this could go down as
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  Speaker 2: one of the greatest TV shows of all time, definitely
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  Speaker 2: the greatest TV adaptation of a video game of all time.
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  Speaker 2: And they had all of this feedback from fans from
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  Speaker 2: the second game. Okay, they could have rewritten the entire
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  Speaker 2: thing if they.
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  Speaker 1: Could just win a different direction.
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  Speaker 2: Completely, but no, we have to do the game just
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  Speaker 2: as we have to do it exactly like the game,
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  Speaker 2: Like bullshit, this is one time.
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  Speaker 1: But then they did do it. They did do it
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  Speaker 1: like the game because we didn't get Ellie's unfiltered, psychopathic,
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  Speaker 1: bloodthirsty killing spree. We didn't get it. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I was looking. I was looking an episode where she
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  Speaker 1: shooting folking the knees, coming up, stabbing him in the throat,
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  Speaker 1: bag over the face, shoot him in the back, and
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  Speaker 1: I was looking. I was looking something like that. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was gonna suspend belief that
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  Speaker 1: Bella Ramsey is bad enough to do this. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna suspend belief. If we're talking about time has passed,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she's been training up, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe she's been in the gym. Okay, she'd been getting
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  Speaker 1: her training right, and she's ready to go out here
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  Speaker 1: and ready to slit some throats. And so that's what
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna see. I said, Okay, now
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  Speaker 1: I know what the last of us the second game
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  Speaker 1: looked like. Look like Ellie taking out a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: of faith on her way to try to get Abby
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  Speaker 1: all right, and uh, we didn't quite get it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a it was a goofy ride. It became
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  Speaker 1: a goofy ride. It was something that was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be so serious as Joe getting beaten to death and
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  Speaker 1: then stabbed in the throat right there in front of you.
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  Speaker 1: It got goofy. That's what it felt like to me.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't even know who the who is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be the damsel in distress in this entire show.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand is it supposed to.
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  Speaker 1: Be Ali is constantly the damsel in the shress. If
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  Speaker 1: you want to be honest, it's it's constantly Ali. There's
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  Speaker 1: somebody because it always seems like somebody's in there to
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  Speaker 1: save Ally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't mean the writing is so screwed up,
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  Speaker 2: Like you have these two characters that you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what role they're supposed to be. Ellie is a complete retard,
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  Speaker 2: like she's not able to do anything. They make her
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  Speaker 2: out to be like a bumbling idiot, and that's even
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  Speaker 2: commented on the actual show within the writing of the
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  Speaker 2: show or like oh, you're stupid pretty much they're just
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  Speaker 2: calling her final calling or stupid, Like what is going
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  Speaker 2: on with this show? Like the writing is so bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's so bad. And like you said, if she would
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  Speaker 2: have been bout ice and she would have been taken out,
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  Speaker 2: all these folk and just murking them, like even give
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  Speaker 2: us some zombie action, but give us some infected action.
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  Speaker 1: We got, we got, we got spare Like like I thought, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I thought episode two and I think me and
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  Speaker 1: you can both agree with the attack on Jackson. They
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  Speaker 1: added that that wasn't in the game. I think they
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  Speaker 1: did a phenomenal job on that. I thought they did
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  Speaker 1: a phenomenal job when Abby was running, Now this wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a game. When Abby was running from the zombie hoard
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  Speaker 1: at that point in time, and they got her pinned
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  Speaker 1: in the side of the building that they're coming through
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  Speaker 1: the fence. Phenomenal jump. Okay, uh. When it got to
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  Speaker 1: when we got past Jackson, we don't really see any
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  Speaker 1: infected until we're in the warehouse and the stalkers are
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  Speaker 1: that what we do see the one moment in the
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  Speaker 1: U in the train station, which was kind of quick.
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  Speaker 1: Every time it was zombie stuff. It was like it
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  Speaker 1: was here and it was gone. It was like five minutes. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, we got the tension build up
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  Speaker 1: with the with the stalkers, seeing how we had like
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  Speaker 1: eight stalkers, uh, and they're tearing up in the caging
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  Speaker 1: like okay, uh, we're gonna we're gonna see what Elie's
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  Speaker 1: made up here. She's gonna have to start, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, working some things out. Of course, she just
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  Speaker 1: gets overwhelmed right out of the gate and Jesse comes
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  Speaker 1: and saves the day. And for some reason, when he
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  Speaker 1: fires his gun to rest them, like okay, their mine,
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  Speaker 1: they just run off. It's oh oh oh, oh, a
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  Speaker 1: man's here. Never mine. I'm gonna go on take it
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  Speaker 1: to the house. Then that's my bad. I didn't know, Jesse,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know you were coming through dogs. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The only thing that can take out
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  Speaker 1: a man on this show as a woman. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna make that week clear.
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  Speaker 2: I understand what they were trying to do. They wanted
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  Speaker 2: to build suspense. They didn't want to give you all
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  Speaker 2: of the information right out the gate. They wanted you
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  Speaker 2: to be like, oh, well, this is what it was.
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  Speaker 2: This is the whole thing. You know, in the last
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  Speaker 2: episode with the episode before the last one where Joel
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  Speaker 2: basically had to kill the one dude down the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the forest, Eugene, and Elliet was super mad at
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  Speaker 2: him and then told dude.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, episode six. Yeah, so we'll go ahead and
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  Speaker 1: delbi into that. Guys, we're doing six and said when
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  Speaker 1: we just decided to do a mashup, uh so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: episode six is that is the complete flashback episode itself,
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  Speaker 1: all right? And seeing how you were already speaking about that,
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  Speaker 1: what how did you feel about how they approached that
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  Speaker 1: particular episode as a.
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  Speaker 2: Flag It should have been the first episode, all right,
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  Speaker 2: It should have been the first episode, but they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to tarantino it right and show you the end before
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  Speaker 2: they show you the beginning. And it did not work.
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  Speaker 2: It just didn't work. It fell flat and no one
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  Speaker 2: liked it. Okay, so they should have made that the
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  Speaker 2: first episode. They should have made the second episode the
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  Speaker 2: second episode, and then the third episode the one where
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  Speaker 2: Joel dies, and they should have just just kept going
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  Speaker 2: and made Ali a badass and we could have believed
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  Speaker 2: that she was a badass and not made it this bumbling,
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  Speaker 2: freaking idiot. But if they would have made this episode
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  Speaker 2: the first episode and not right out the gate, just
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  Speaker 2: killed Joel with not giving us any Daddy Joel time. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're needing Daddy Joel time, all right, and they didn't
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  Speaker 2: give it to us. They waited until the sixth episode
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  Speaker 2: to give us a freaking flashback to have Joel really
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  Speaker 2: doing anything. I wasn't impressed with the flashback episode because
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  Speaker 2: it was too little, too late. And then they tried
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  Speaker 2: to make this big deal online of like the return
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  Speaker 2: of Joel. Joel's coming back. Everyone get excited, everyone get hyped.
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  Speaker 2: He's coming back. But you just killed him, you know,
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  Speaker 2: four episodes ago, like give us a break, hype. Now,
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  Speaker 2: it's too little, too late. You should have made this
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  Speaker 2: the very first episode.
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  Speaker 1: You should have.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't even make us feel anything for Joel whenever
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  Speaker 2: Joe died. Can you hear me? I didn't even feel
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  Speaker 2: any emotional times to Joel whenever he died in the
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  Speaker 2: second episode, because we didn't get any Joel time. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: And I did not rewatch the first season before I
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  Speaker 2: picked up on this season. Now, if I would have
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  Speaker 2: went back and rewatch the entire first season, but that
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  Speaker 2: was two years ago. Bro two years ago. The first
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  Speaker 2: season came out, and then they're waiting and then they
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  Speaker 2: kill him in the second It just makes no sense.
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  Speaker 2: It makes no logical sense. Again, then they just took
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  Speaker 2: the entire story in another direction that nobody wanted it
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  Speaker 2: to go in. They made it all about the love
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  Speaker 2: story between Ali and Dina, Okay, and that's not what
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  Speaker 2: people wanted to see. We wanted to see Joel being
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  Speaker 2: bad ass. And even if we could have gotten half
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  Speaker 2: a season of Joel being badass, I would have been
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  Speaker 2: happy with that. That's why they should have put that
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  Speaker 2: flashback episode as the first episode. It would have given
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  Speaker 2: us more Joel. It would have given us more emotional
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  Speaker 2: ties to his death. Because if you were like me.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't rewatch the first season before the second season
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  Speaker 2: came out. You didn't feel anything emotionally with them killing
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  Speaker 2: Joel other than you just being pissed.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, you know what they what they could
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  Speaker 1: have actually done, And some people talked about this, but okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you could have started the first episode if you
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  Speaker 1: want to jump five years later, which I don't particularly like,
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  Speaker 1: but that's what they did, okay, and we could have
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  Speaker 1: seen the initial I say, probably ten to fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 1: of you see the tension between Joel and Ellie, then
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  Speaker 1: hit us with the flashback if you want to give
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  Speaker 1: us a little bit of where he was at the
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  Speaker 1: therapist with Gail and said, oh, you kill Eugene, and
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  Speaker 1: then boom, at that point in time, we get the flashback,
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  Speaker 1: go into the birthdays each birthday and have things kind
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  Speaker 1: of led up to where you know, Ellie was pissed
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  Speaker 1: at Joel. All right. Now. The one thing that I
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  Speaker 1: would not have wanted to see was Joe actually telling
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  Speaker 1: Ellie that he took the fireflies out. I would have
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  Speaker 1: rather had that for the end of the content of
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  Speaker 1: the entire series completely. Do the flashback for that at
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the entire series, after we go
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  Speaker 1: through everything trying to get the Abby and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And it didn't have to be this season, it could
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  Speaker 1: be three or four, have you want to do it,
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  Speaker 1: and at that point in time, and so it will
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  Speaker 1: bring you full circle to the fact that how how
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  Speaker 1: Ellie and Joel, how she was not able to actually
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  Speaker 1: fully forgive Joel and tell him that before he was
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  Speaker 1: brutally murdered, and how that's gonna stay with her forever.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying if we talk about this
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  Speaker 1: cycle of grief, so that that was there was a
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  Speaker 1: there was a method here that we could have worked with,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh, that that didn't quite go over the
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  Speaker 1: way that it probably should have. The execution was poor.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say that it was poor execution. And to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: the Eugene execution that could have been a whole lot
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  Speaker 1: better too. That was a little weak. Okay, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how you felt about it, but it was it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty weak to me. I mean it was he
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  Speaker 1: was bit I don't know how far they're away from town,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll be damn I'm gonna drag him back to town.
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  Speaker 1: And he snapped and by some other folk. Now we
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  Speaker 1: got a real problem, you know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like, all this is about survival of the herd, okay.
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  Speaker 1: And so in this instance we see that Joel's like
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  Speaker 1: he's always ready to make the tough decisions where everybody
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  Speaker 1: else gets overly emotional, and he's got emotions involved in
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  Speaker 1: it as well. But he's like, we got to put
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  Speaker 1: this in aside. You see, he said, this is my burden,
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  Speaker 1: the bear. I'm able to do these things, okay. And
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  Speaker 1: so I think that's what makes Joel's character so intriguing,
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  Speaker 1: because he has to go. He's like the only one
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  Speaker 1: who's able to look at things objectively and be like,
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  Speaker 1: this is one of the most difficult decisions that I
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  Speaker 1: have to make, and I'm going to make it because
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna be best for the herd or for whoever
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  Speaker 1: on the you know what I'm saying. Saying? There it
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  Speaker 1: is there is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was pretty weak. They could have
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  Speaker 2: done away way better, like, but he was obviously right.
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  Speaker 2: He needed to kill him. He had to. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they had to be really far out there. There's no
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  Speaker 2: way that I'm riding with this dude on horseback with
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  Speaker 2: me and he's been I don't know when he's going
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  Speaker 2: to he could turn immediately. I mean, but Ellie did
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  Speaker 2: that there he was like, let me see your hand
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  Speaker 2: and then it wasn't shaken or whatever, and he was like,
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  Speaker 2: she was like, he's got time. Well, do they have
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  Speaker 2: an accurate amount of time when people change?
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  Speaker 1: Have they?
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  Speaker 2: Did they do experiments on that?
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  Speaker 1: What not? That I knew love so.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, he was obviously right and knowing that
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  Speaker 2: he had to freaking kill this dude. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: just obvious. That's that's that's zombie apocalypse one oh one.
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  Speaker 2: You kill them immediately. There's no messing around here. You
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  Speaker 2: gotta take them.
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  Speaker 1: Out right right right. I mean we've been seeing that
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  Speaker 1: when we talk about things, things that are not zombies, vampire,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. In the recent movie Centers,
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  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, you know, if I get bit, you
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  Speaker 1: need to kill me, all right, don't let me turn bam.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's the whole previous that's see it. It's
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  Speaker 1: like you got to do what needs to be done.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was even there was a dream that I
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  Speaker 2: actually had about a zombie apocalypse.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I was in like this gymnasium full of all these
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  Speaker 2: people in a zombieance. Break happens, right, and all these
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  Speaker 2: zombies coming to this gymnasium. We're trying to get away
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  Speaker 2: and I found like, I'm a schudy or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, we need weapons, and I went and
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  Speaker 2: found them a shuddy and one of the people that
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  Speaker 2: I was with, her husband got bit and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: she was like, no, he's coming with and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: the hell he is. I pushed him away and I
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  Speaker 2: literally chopped his freaking hat off with a machete in
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  Speaker 2: my dream because I'm like, you're stupid. You're stupid if
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  Speaker 2: you think that just got bid is coming with us.
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  Speaker 2: I was like no. Immediately, I shoved him to the
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  Speaker 2: ground and freaking chopped his head off with a freaking machete.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's just the way that it is. This type
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  Speaker 2: of scenario is what you're in, and you have to
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  Speaker 2: make decisions that it doesn't matter. And the person that's
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  Speaker 2: been has to know too, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: They have to come to peace with the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they cannot live right.
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  Speaker 1: And we seen this in Jackson in episode two where
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  Speaker 1: people were in the town and they were bit. They
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  Speaker 1: said they were bit and somebody sat there and shot
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  Speaker 1: him right in the head. I mean, that was it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, yep, they got me, man, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I mean, you're reserved to your faith at
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  Speaker 1: that point in time. It just is what it is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And and I know it's a loved one
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff, but I just I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like the Eugene thing, like I was, I was, I
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  Speaker 1: think that the way Gail had said it when her
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  Speaker 1: and Joel were in therapy, it was making me think
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  Speaker 1: that there was something more to it than them what
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  Speaker 1: I've seen, you know what I'm saying, Like like Joel
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  Speaker 1: had went out and he had made a mistake that
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  Speaker 1: got Eugene called up and beat her. So like I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking something like that, Like I was thinking
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  Speaker 1: more of a dramatic situation than yeah, they were just
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  Speaker 1: in the woods and yeah that yeah, but it so
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I was looking for something else. Writer,
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  Speaker 1: I looked something dramatic there, but like it just didn't
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: hit me, you know what I'm saying.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: They built it up as this unknown thing, you know,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: and also the unknown thing between Eli and Joel. Why
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Eli is mad at Joel, like they didn't explain. I mean,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: we knew that I had to do with the hospital,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: but it's not like that they they didn't explain it.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: And that's the And I complain about exposition in shows
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: and movies like all the time. I don't like it
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: when it's heavy exposition. I like figuring things out on
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: my own. But this is a different scenario. This is
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: a different story. This is where this is an end
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: of the world freaking zombie apocalypse. Okay, Like it's not
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: supposed to be figure things out on your own. It's
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: supposed to be entertainment. Okay, But if I'm sitting down
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: and watching a movie that's different, Like, I don't want
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: everything explained to me. I want to try and you know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: figure things out on my own. I want them to
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: symbolically give me some things, some psychological things for me
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: to put two and two together on my own before
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the end of the movie without them explaining it in dialogue.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But this, this is one into the world entertainment shit.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: It has to be explained. You need to explain, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: if you don't, you end up with something like this,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: some kind of garbage, nonsense, horrible writing where things are
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: set up for a big payoff when they weren't set
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: up properly, and then the payoff doesn't work. It doesn't
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: work that we've seen that several times throughout this season.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: None of it worked. It all fell flat. And not
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: only that, dude, we how long do you think that
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: we've seen Abby in this entire season? How much screen
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: time do you think she has? She might have had
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: what maybe twenty twenty thirty minutes, and she's supposed to
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: be the bad guy, and then we then they're spent.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: They're trying to set up Isaac. He had maybe five
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: minutes of screen time. We didn't see him for two episodes. Bro,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: we didn't see him for two episodes, and he was
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: in this latest episode for like two minutes, and Abby
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: was in it even less. Abby showed up at the
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: very end and was like, I'm here, and then he
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: shoots what's his name in the head through the eye.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Which I didn't feel anything for Jesse either, because Jesse
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: had no screen time, We did not understand his character.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It did not I did not feel anything for him
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: whenever he died, and that should have been a very
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: dramatic moment because it's supposed to come out of nowhere,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: right that that whole setup at the end of the
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: episode is supposed to be like a surprise, But I
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: didn't feel surprised. I was like, let's just get through this.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Let's just get through it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think maybe the reason that, well, obviously
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: we see now, the reason that we don't have a
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: whole lot of screen time is because season three is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: gonna be nothing but Abby her three days in Seattle
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: before she meets up with Ali, Tommy, and Jesse. You know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: that's that's what season three is gonna be.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And how freaking boring is that gonna be? We already
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: know what she was doing, Like, what is she gonna
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: pretend like that she doesn't know who's killing her friends?
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Like we already know who is killing them. It was
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: fucking Alie. There's no fucking I.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Guess what seasons? What's season stuff? From the w air perspective,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: you know, in the game, she'd she'd befriends one of
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the scars on the Saraphikes. I believe his name is Lev.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: But I just do not care about her. I don't
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: care about Isaac, I don't care about Abby, I don't
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: care about Ali, I don't care about Dina, I don't
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: care about Jelse, I don't care about any of them
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: at all. They have made me not care about any
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: of them because they have not set up any of
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: their characters properly. They should have set up Ellie as
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the lovable person that everybody likes, that everybody wants to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: root for, but instead they did the opposite. They screwed
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the entire thing up. They did not give enough character
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: development for Ellie other than her being a teenage freaking brat,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: which made everyone hate her and not like her. Okay,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: and there's been a lot of confusion online too, because
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: people are like Bella Ramsey is the most hated actor
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: in Hollywood right now, and like I don't care about
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: her as a as a person. I'm sure she's fine
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: as a person. I'm sure she's great, but I do
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: not like her character on the show. Those are two
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: things that you need to separate. You cannot like the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: character and still like the person. I'm sure she's a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: fine person, Sure she's great. I don't care about her
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: as a person, but I do not like her character
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: in this show because they have done absolutely nothing to
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: make the audience like her in any kind of way
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: at all period. In fact, they've done the complete opposite.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: They made her a bumbling, freaking idiot that has absolutely
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: no idea what she's doing. And that's unfortunate because we're
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: supposed to root for the main character. You're supposed to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: love the main character of the show. Is supposed to
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: be a smooth transition, just like Game of Thrones. Okay,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I know that I've brought out Game of Thrones, but
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of parallels here, okay, and they're both
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: run by the same company, EHBO, which is Warner Brothers.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But with Game of Thrones, they killed Ned Stark at
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the end of the first season, okay, But they had
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: all these other characters that had already been set up
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: all around Western that you could root for, that were
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: likable characters that people felt a connection to. You immediately
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: had Rob Stark, which became the new King of the North,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and you were rooting for him until season four, whenever
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: he gets killed in a very dramatic way, his entire
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: family gets killed, okay. And then you had Denars, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: then you had John Snow up at the Wall. You
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: had all these other subplots who have all these other
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: major characters that you can draw from. You had Jamie Lanister,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: you had Sercey Lanister, you had Tyrian Lanister that you
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: might not have been excited for after they killed your
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: favorite main character in the first season, but you grew
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: to love. They're like, Okay, I'm gonna get into this.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: This is great. I love this, but not with the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: last of us. They did it wrong. They did it
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: way wrong. I could have written this show better in
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: my freaking sleep, Dude. I could have went to sleep,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: had a dream about this and woke up and wrote
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: something better than the garbage as they pumped up. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: bet a four year old in grade school could write
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: a better plot script for the show than what they did.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: It definitely left something to be desired, and a lot
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of times when you have shows like this, I always
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: want to go to somebody who looks at things just
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: as was I entertained or not. So that's the way
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: my girlfriend looks at stuff. She didn't get overly deep
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: into stuff. She just she watched it was I entertained,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and she was like, it's just kind of losing. It's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like it's it's not entertainment anymore. I was like, yes,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: it's a little weak, like it's weak. But they tried
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to give us. The issue was they gave us a
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: water damn version of Elie. That's my number one issue
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: with the shape. We should have seen the light switch
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: get turned on and her go into full hail made
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: that if we'd have had that, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And then you know, if they would.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Have done that, then I would have forgiven all the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: gay ship, just like I forget forgave the gay shit
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: in the first season. I looked over all the gay
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: shit in the first season because everything else was spectacular.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, whatever, I don't care about this
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: one episode of two gay dudes, who gives a ship? Whatever.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: They focused the whole season two around the gay shit,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and they didn't have any bad assy, no bad asstery.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, how many times did Ali play the freaking
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: guitar bro How many guitar scenes of her either starting
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: to begin to play a song and sing or playing
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: a full freaking song and singing. Well, I know that
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: we had three with all and two with Joel.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: For the writers and producers said, man, they were on
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: set crime and she was playing and I was like,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: really that brought all the tears. I think they didn't
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: quite hit me, you know what I'm saying. And look,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not the type to get overly emotional
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: during films. I say I probably loosened up a little
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: bit more since since I've been with my my girlfriend. Uh,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: she when she watches stuff, if if she's invested in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and she can get emotional about characters and stuff. Every
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: once in a while it hits me. But at no
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: point in time did it really hit me, you know
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, like you have that, you have that,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and because you know Joel's gonna die, it's not as
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: much a shock factor as when you seen it in
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the video game. Okay, but uh, you know some of
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the other stuff throughout the season that you know, you're
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: trying to hit emotional marks, you know, harkening back to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the remembrance of Joel, and it just didn't. It ain't
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: quite It didn't quite hit it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I know they were trying to give me an emotional
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: moment with Eugene, it didn't quite hit it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, because one we don't even know who Eugene is.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Was he even in the first season, was he in
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the first season or no.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: No, when they got to jackson Yale wentn't out there either.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So they've set up all of these characters off screen.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: All of them have been set up off screen. We
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: don't know anything about these people, dude, we don't even
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: know anything. I mean, how long have if Tommy was
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: in one episode of the season one whenever they got
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: to Jackson Hole before they went to try and Frank
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the cure or whatever for Elie, Like, we don't even
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: know any of these people, and how are you supposed
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to bring gravity and wait in an emotional connection whenever
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: they They've been developed off screen, and then we're just
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: thrown into the thick of it, into Ellie being this whiny,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: freaking brat with absolutely no backstory. Let's what threw everybody off.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I mean I hated this from the very first the
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: jump of the first episode. If you go back and
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: listen to our first review of this of this season,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is garbage. This first episode is garbage.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I did not like it. I thought that it was shit,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: but I held out hope because the first season was
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: so good. I was like, okay, but normally when you
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: start off with something as shit, as that first episode was,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it's not going to be good for you. It's like
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it's like releasing the album. Like if you're a music
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: artist and you're releasing an album and the first song
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: is garbage, it doesn't hook you in. Whenever you play
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that first song on the stream, that first song or
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: back in the day putting in the CD or the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: cassette and the tape layer, that first song sets the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: tone or the entire rest of the album. If that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: first song is garbage, guess what the rest of that
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: album is going to be. It's going to be garbage.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And that's what we got. The second episode was the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: best episode of the entire season, and it was still
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: lacking because I still didn't feel anything. There was nothing
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: there for me to feel. It was like they did
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: all this stuff for just pure shock value. They didn't
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: have a plan. They wanted everybody talking about how they
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: just killed the main character of the entire show again
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: exactly like what they did with Game of Thrones, and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: they wanted to be remembered for that. I remember in
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: the after the credits, with the playback of the season
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: or whatever, like the writers and the directors we're talking
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: about how we had to get this second episode so perfect,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: because this episode is going to go down in history
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: as one of the greatest episodes of television ever made.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it could have been. It could have been
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: if you made it right, but you didn't cute. They
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: could literally have consolidated those last four to five, those
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: last five episodes into an hour and a half long
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: episode after episode two. They could have literally written those
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: five episodes down to one singular episode that made it
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: an hour and a half. That's how bored and nonsensical
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and horrible writing it was. That you could cut that
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: entire thing into one hour and thirty minute episode. We
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: didn't even need all that. It was fucking garbage. It
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: was garbage, dude, there's all garbage. They could have sped
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: through that so quickly. They should have at least had
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Ali killing one person at least one person per episode.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: She did.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: She did stab that one guy in the neck. She
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: did do that. Oh oh, and then she and then
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: she and then she shot Ohen and Mail, which she
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: freaked out about. Sheating Mail, and then they was like
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: cut it out. Other than I cutting the baby out,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like on the game, Owen goes to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: show her or something on the map, and then Owen
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: tries to take the gun, Ellie shoots. Some male comes
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: in with a knife. Ellie takes a knife from her
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: stabs or in the neck. Like it's a whole lot
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: more brutal, you know what I'm saying, as opposed to,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Oh I shot, Oh my god, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Like the shock on her face that she shot it
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: was almost like, are you not in a murderous rampage
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: or not? Okay? Are you? Are you not? Like she
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: seems surprised that she shot the gun. I'm like, why
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: are you surprised? It's just like, you know, I don't know.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: It's just like they they didn't hit on the element
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: that I wanted them to hit on. I was expecting
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: something totally different from this season because I understood that
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Joe's death was on the way. All right, It's hard
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: not to because everything's spoils it. I mean, when the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Last of Us season comes out, folks are showing the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Last of Us stuff on TikTok, Twitter, wherever, wherever you at,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: they showing it, okay, And so I was like, Okay,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about to were about to see the
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: heat this season because we thought she had elevated her
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: game whenever that dude had tried to uh uh take
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: advantage a little, a little essay, uh the sexual assault
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and then uh and then she Realie kills the guy
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: in that building that burns down, and she runs out
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and Joel's like, hey, you know, I got you. It
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's that's like, you know, where her
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: breaking points. She starts getting into into that mood where she,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you know, that slayer maid, and we just missed slayer mode.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And I think, I think, I think if we got
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: pure slayer mode in this uh, then I think that
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: it would have made a uh a more entertaining season. Okay,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: we could have some elements of you know, the relationship
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: with her and Dina, because that is in the game. Okay,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: but Ellie's more pissed that Dina comes. So why didn't
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you tell me? Because now I got to worry about this.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're asked you to stay
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: back because I mean, I'm here. I'm here to do
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: God the Lord's work, all right. I mean I'm here
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to do the Lord's work, all right, which is go
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and snuff some tucks out, it's snuff time. And so
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: as we traversed through this, Uh, she just seemed extremely unskilled,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: which was which was a turnoff. You know what I'm
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: saying That like turns you off for a character. How
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: unskilled she seems when she was with one of the
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: most badass people on the planet, who was Joel, which
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you know he would have been training her up, you know,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: to be able to handle herself. I mean, do you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: feel the same way as I feeling that?
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I feel the exact same way she should
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: have been. Look, whenever you agree to go on this
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: mission for revenge, like you know that you gotta be
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: killing some people. Okay, why is she acting shocked every
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: time that she kills thembody, Like, oh my god, I
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: can't believe I just did that. Like I just traveled
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: halfway across the freaking United States to get revenge and
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: kill these people, But yet I'm shocked when I actually
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: killed them. Okay, you gotta know the mission when you're
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: on the mission, or you don't go on the freaking mission.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: She should have just stayed that, both of them should
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: have just stayed back in freaking Jackson Hole. It probably
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: would have been a more entertaining show if they would
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: not even have went to Washington. Okay, back in Jackson Hall. Yeah,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: give me that thumbs up, bubble. Yeah, they should have
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: went back the freaking they should never even have went.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It would have been way more. It would have been
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: a lot better if they would have just stayed there,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: helped rebuild the their civilization so we can get more
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: backstory on all these other characters. Just finished off the
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: season back in Jackson Hall and then went to Washington
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: instead of doing all these freaking stupid time jumps. Okay,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: and they didn't even mourn Joel in the show.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Dude, they gave they gave him a few moments whenever
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: they had that, uh, whenever she walked up to his
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: grape stone. You know, it's a couple of moments.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Let me just wake up out of this coma or
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: whatever that that I've been through, Like three months later,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like you're you're telling me that I think that the
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: time jump was three months? Was the three or four months?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: It was somewhere around there was a three to four
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: month mark, Like you're telling me that it took three
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: to four months for Ellie to heel pretty much a teenager.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: What is she like eighteen nineteen? Now you're telling me
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: it took three to four months for her to heel
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: from being thrown to the ground and kicked in the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: ribs a couple of times and maybe punched in the face. Bullshit, Yes,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: teenagers bounced back quick. She would have been ready in
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a week, bro, she'd have been out of the hospital
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: in a week for two weeks. Easy. Teenagers are resilient. Bro.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: There they get knocked down, kicked, kicked down. There, they
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: bounced right back. Okay, so we're lable believe that it
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: took three months for her to heal up. And then
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: we get that time jump. They just loved jumps in
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: this entire in the second season, dude, they're just time
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: jumping all over the place. It's almost like their fucking marvel.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: They're just going back in time for it in time
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: like all that. It's just dumb, dude, It's so dumb.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: It's lazy, sloppy writing that doesn't serve the characters, doesn't
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: make you like the characters at all. And then like
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: whenever she shoots the one, dude, and then it hits
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: the pregnant lady in the neck, Okay, it's kind of dramatic,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: but again, you're there to do a mission. This girl
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: was there too. She was responsible for, you know, helping
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Abby Kiljoel, you don't have any sympathy for these people.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit if she's pregnant or not.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I'm there to do a job, and I'm going to
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: finish the job. Like whatever happened happened. Okay, if she
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: accidentally got shot, then that's the way that it was
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: supposed to be. And I know that might sound heartless
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: or whatever that I don't care about them, but dude,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: if someone kills my dad, bro, and that's pretty much
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: what Joel was. You know, that was basically Elie's dad, right,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: someone came in and murdered my dad, Bro, I don't
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: give a shit. If you're a teenager, you're a kid,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: you're a freaking whatever. Like, if you're in my way, bro,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: You're gone. That's just that's just how it is. That's
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: just the way that it's going to be. And I
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: know that they wanted that emotional tension in there because
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Dina is also pregnant, so they wanted to kind of
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: like relate to her because Diana is pregnant, she's in danger,
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: and then this other girl's pregnant, she accidentally shoots her
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: in the neck. You know, don't get me wrong, I'm
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: not going to shoot somebody that is pregnant, Okay, but
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: if they happen to die in the collateral damage of
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: me doing what I'm doing, it's a non issue. I'm
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: not gonna go Yeah. Yeah, I just don't want people
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: to get confused on that that I'm gonna go out
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: murdering a bunch of children or freaking pregnant women. No,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if someone's collateral
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: damage due to me serving my mission, I mean, do
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you think that? And I'm sure it does. But I'm
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: sure that Army soldiers have had to kill a lot
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: of people, including children, Okay a lot of them. I've
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: killed a lot of people, including entire families of people,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: probably pregnant people, probably kids. Do you think that they
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: just stopped, like in the middle of that, and was like, no,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I can't I can't complete this mission because this lady's pregnant.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I have to abandon the whole thing because she's pregnant.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: That's actually how you get killed yep, because there's no
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: guarantee that they won't, but they won't pull the weapon
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: on you.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Hey, and what if it's not even a baby boom?
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Dude?
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: What if that's a freaking giant bomb? Is it's time
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: the bomb underneath that thing? It's not even she's not
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: even pregnant, she got she's all strapped up with a
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: giant freaking bomb.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Or she is eight half a dozen of christal Gren donuts.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, got a little blood going on?
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: What he's got a little blake that have little blakey?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: But what what did it for me? On episode seven
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: was when Ellie was was she got on the bait
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and was going out to the aquarium, got seemingly like
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I feel taken out by the waves. All of a sudden,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: she washes up to I guess another island of the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: beach side or something, and the Scars are right there
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: to pick her up and ready to cut her bit.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: And then they hear something. They're like, what should we
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: do with her? I'll just leave her. I'm like, where
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: did this come from? That seemed random as hell? I'm saying.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, why is this in the show? Like
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: it was just and I know why it's there, because
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see from Abby's perspective, she probably did something
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that caused the explosion or w Left was attacking at
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the time, and so it's like, oh, Elli just happened
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to be in the area. I'm like, huh, you know
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like it was like dumb, like it
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: showed up. It's like, hey, I'm not WL Left. It's
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: like and he got the little kid, and it's like,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying, what is happening
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: here is that what the Scars do and the Scars
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and the seraphytes man, I got no I got no
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: connection to the period, Okay. I mean whether they all
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: get get their heads cut off the next day or not,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: it really didn't matter, like because the only thing I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: know from them is that they just string folk up
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and cut the gut.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: So I'm like, I don't even but I got nothing,
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: got nothing with them, Like I ain't getting no explanation, ain't.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Getting a back. The season needed more episodes. The season
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: needed about fifteen to twenty episodes. If you're going to
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: introduce all this stuff so I could so I could
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: understand what I got going on, because I ain't got
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: no clue. I just got the Scars and the Wolft
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: don't like each other for some reason.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's it. And then Isaac's about us, and we're supposed
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: to believe that he's about us. That's it.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: That's for some reason. Yeah, for someone else.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: He's the leader of the resistance of people, and we're
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: supposed to believe that he's the leader of this resistance
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: though we've basically seen him do nothing but blow up
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: some of its former army people. And then uh yeah,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: torture or some naked bed on the ground, like that
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: doesn't make you a bad US Bro. That does not
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: make you bad US Like you're torturing some naked.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Dude, Like, yeah, we see its huge long there's some
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: slong along up in there.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: But dud think.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Bro appreciated seeing the dick, seeing the dick. This season
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: would preciate out.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: We got a bunch of see a dick. I'm so excited.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: You know, it used to be where you know, it
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: showed that they were showed the beages, you know what
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, But they moved away and they've moved more
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to showing the male janity. And I'm like, nobody wants
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: to see that, not even the women. You know what
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. They ain't even trying to see it if
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: it's not something that they're looking to use right there
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: at that moment, and it's and it's in the in
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: the erect position. Don't nobody want to see a penis?
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Though?
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Nobody? All right, maybe maybe maybe the gay dues at
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the gay parade they about want to say, all right,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: because that's when all of them come out. That's one
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: thing I ain't never understood. Gay parade. Time time for
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: me to get butt naked. I'm like, I said, correlate
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: with the gay parade. Cut my balls out. It's just
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: it's uncalled for.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: But you gotta tape your your dick to your arsehole
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: and people the ball so it looks like you gotta.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, they missed the memo on that. They missed the memo.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: You gotta tuck it and tuck it down.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But uh And another thing is no, it's just
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: got me. This theater they in. I guess nobody e
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: season is a good shelter because it looks like great
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: shelter to me. They got a generator. I mean they
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: turned the lights on. You know what I'm saying, ain't
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: nobody see the lights returned on in the theater?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Like, didn't Jesse? Didn't They ask Jesse in this episode of.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: How you found us?
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: But didn't he explain that in the.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah he's here. Yeah, yeah, He's like, I just
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: followed where it seem you would most likely be.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I followed you. I went to the theater and you
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: had all of your plans laid out on the freaking table.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Did he not see that exact dialogue to Yeah?
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, ye, I was like said the fact that
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: somebody else found you there, I was like, yeah, it
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: makes sense this theater that nobody else wants to be
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: held up in, because I guess that they're all at
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks Stadium. You know, we see at the
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: end where it goes back, we see them out there
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: farming the WLF facility. You see Abby gazing upun all
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: the worker bees, and she didn't seem badass at all.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just sorry, Like they made sure that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: they had two of the least intimidating females possible as
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the protagonists and antagonists.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and from what I've seen of the games. They
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: casted Ellie, which looks more like Abby in the video game,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: and Abby looks more like Ellie in the video game.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: The chick that plays Abby dude looks almost identical to
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: the version of Ellie in the video game. Bro, Right,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: what are they doing? Why did they do that? It
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: makes no sense? And then Ellie looks more like Abby,
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Like it doesn't make any sense. Bro, Everything is so
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: screwed up, it's so illogical, makes no sense. And they
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: had to know, Cube, they had to know that this
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: was dog shit, Like, how could this have passed through
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: all of the eyes of the board of HBO and
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: someone not stand up and be like, what the fuck
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: is going on here?
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: What? What this? This needs to happen during the writing
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: process where people review the script. When you review the script,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: it'd be like, oh, ho, I'm envisioning this in my mind,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and I wonder if this is something that ai be
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: used for. It's like, uh, take this scrint and turn
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: it into a film for me, and they just so
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: so you can get, you know, a quick idea of
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: what you'd be looking at, and then maybe you take
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: your people and then go and actually make the film
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: and make improvements from there. From what you've seen, I
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: wonder if that's something that they could they would use
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: AI for in the future. But if you just sitting
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: there reading it and envisioning what you got, you like
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and don't like. This was supposed to be an extremely
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: dark season and it won't dark enough. It was supposed
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to be extremely dark and it just won't. I mean,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: there were there were scenes that were dark. You know,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: they were in the dark, I mean, but as far
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: as the overall theme of it won't quite that dark.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Tell us a missed opportunity is what it is to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: make one of the one of the best series ever made.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: And it could have been. It really could have been.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: And that's been my contention during every single one of
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: these episodes that we've done, every one of these reviews
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: that we've done on this new season, and it's shocking
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: to me almost every time. I'm like, this could have
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: been so great. And the only explanation that I can
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: think of is one. They thought Kamala Harris was going
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: to win the election, and this was written before had
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: to have been written two or three years ago. Okay,
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: you thought for sure that Kamala was going to win
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: and they thought that this was going to go over
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: way better than it did. That's one explanation. The other
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: explanation is that they thought that the fans of the
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: series weren't going to care, that they were going to
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: like it no matter what they put on the screen.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: That seems like the best explanation so forth. And it
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: probably had something to do with you know, because people
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: are pulling back from the gay shit. They're starting to
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: pull back from it, and they're not putting it I
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: mean freaking target as you know, they're all like pro America.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: They got like USA shit in in their kids. Actually
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: never last year at this time, well two years ago
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: at this time, they had like trans shit for kids, right,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: So they're starting to pull back on it a little
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: bit because they're realizing that nobody wants to see this ship.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to see it, and people are tuning out
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: for it. I mean, and that's evident in the fifty
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: five percent DROUMP. Like you can any industry that you're
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: ever in and you see a fifty five percent drop
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: in your consumer bees, you're fucks You're done.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: You used it, don't recover. You look like Marvel right
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: now that that Marvel has lost people, and I don't
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: think they'll ever be able to get them back. It'll
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: it'll take it'll take a cult classic type film in
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: order to get people back. Because here's the deal. I
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: think one of the I think one of the worst
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: films that they ever did was ant Man in the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: wats Quantitnia. I was like, my god, man, y'all y'all
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: want to talk about just fumbling the whole bag. I mean,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: y'all put the big band in damn ant Man movie.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, man, shit, man, let's I mean, get me
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: something better. This and the Thunderbolts came out, which has
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: been actually widely acclaimed, is a fairly decent film. I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: went and watch the film. It's okay. I don't like
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: the power of friendship winning all these final battles. You
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I want to see somebody get
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you know, you know executed, I mean the execution for
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: the final battle. But you know, the power of friendship
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: has been winning all these battles right here recently. But
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: even though people have said, oh man, that you know
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: that film has been one of the better ones that
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: they did. You know, Phase five, Phase six, it's a
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: it's made over one hundred million dollars less over one
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: hundred I think one hundred and twenty million dollars listing
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: ant Man in the wats corner Man.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: It hasn't even made us budget back this is.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: So that's what That's what I'm saying, Like, once you
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: start losing people because you've just been putting out poor product,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: they use it, don't come back. Let's just see it
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: like people now, But you get one opportunity because there's
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: too much media. If this was thirty years ago, they
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: would just canceled the shape. Look, we can't, we can't
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: have no shit like this, So it's just canceled, all right.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: But now people have so many options, all right. And
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of these companies think that they
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: can revitalize and get people back if they do this
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and that. And that's fair enough where that can happen
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: or not. But there's so much media out there that
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: you know the next thing is on already. And so
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: if this ain't captivating me, You've got Apple TV got
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: their own stuff, Peacock got their own stuff, Amazon Prime
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: got their own stuff. Of course, HBO it's got their
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: own stuff, multiple other things. Stars has got their own stuff.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Showtime's got their own thing. Yeah. I mean, so everybody's
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: got stuff out, paramount. I mean, everybody's got stuff out.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: There's media everywhere. So if you can't captivate right out
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: the game, you're screat And if you lose folks, you
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: usually lose them forget.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, that's what's happening.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: And the Marvel thing is a really good parallel to this,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: because Marvel lost to me. Marvel lost to me after Endgame, Dude,
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I didn't watch I've watched two Marvel movies since Endgame.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: And when did Endgame come out? Like five years ago?
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Five six years ago?
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Then I've watched two Marvel movies. I watched spider Man
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: No Way Home, and I watched deb Pool Wolverine, and
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: deub Pool Wolverine came out last year, and the only
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: reason they watched dep Pool Wolverine was because Hugh Jackman
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: was in it, and I freaking love X Men, and
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I love Wolverine, and I freaking love Hugh Jackman. That's
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: the only reason that I watched it, and the only
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: reason that I watched spider Man No Way Home. I
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: didn't even watch I didn't even watch the second Spider
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: Man movie.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Now, you didn't watch Far from Home.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: Nope, I didn't watch Far from Home. I watched the
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: first Spider Man.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: Mysteria. It's actually pretty good. The Spider Man movies are
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: good for me. I think all of them are pretty good.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: But the only reason that I watched Spider Man No
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Way Home was because of Tobey Maguire. I think Toby
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Maguire was the best Spider Man that we ever had,
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: those first two Spider Man movies with Tobey Maguire. And
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: people can yell Andrew Garfield all that they want, but
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: they really screwed Tobey Maguire over. I thought that he
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: was great, amazing first two movies, and that was the
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: only reason that I watched Far from Home. Yeah, Spider
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Man Far from Home was because of Tobey maguire because
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: he was coming back a Spider Man.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: That's all the Marvel movies that I've watched. And how
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: many has there been since? Like, there's been freaking twenty
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: twenty five movies.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Since, let's say, still Black Lido etn. It was Sean Shee,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: The Other Captain America and Man and the Walls two
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Spider Man's probably being like the Marvell's probably like ten eleven.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I know there's summer in there that were not remembering
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: because they've been pumping out like five movies a year
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: since then.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean the.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: One or two.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Right, So okay, So we had Black Widow, we had
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: the Eternals, we had Sean She, we had uh two
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Spider Man movies. Because you had you had that the
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: Spider Man movie, Like, was it directly after Yeah, it
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: was directly after Tony Stark's death, if I'm correct, Yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: because that was that was the park Home mysterio. I mean,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: you had no Way Home.
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  Speaker 2: We had a Doctor Strange movie.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Doctor Strange. Multiverse had Black Panther and Man in the Wasp,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: who had uh another Cat in America Thunderbolts, I mean
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: someone the Marvels. That's eleven. Yeah, that's right, eleven. It's
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  Speaker 1: been eleven.
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  Speaker 2: That's not even including all the stupid dumb TV show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not including the stuff that they did on
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Disney Plus, which some of that stuff was rush. Some
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. I'm like, man, but when y'all for
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: y'all are digging through characters, man, some of them you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: can just you can leave them on the on the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: cutting room floor and then what they say, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: leave them in there. Ship. So we got iron Heart
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  Speaker 1: coming out right here in a few weeks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the black Iron Man, Black and a woman iron Heart,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we want her. Yeah. Yeah, she was in
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: the she was in The Black Panther Wacanda Forever. She
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  Speaker 1: is actually introduced in that movie. She's like super smart
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  Speaker 1: and she recreated the Iron Man see herself.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's coming for this one to flop.
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  Speaker 1: Two. Yeah, well the writer, you know what, you know
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  Speaker 1: what the same would be you saying that as a
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  Speaker 1: white male would be supremacy in nature. It would be
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  Speaker 1: supremacist in nature. Uh so.
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  Speaker 2: Female about ours? Females are like from like alien right,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: They're like from Terminator. Sarah Connor is a badass female.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: If they would Connor was black, I don't give a ship.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to.
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  Speaker 2: You are bro, I don't care what your sexual preferences are.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: I don't care if you're fucking transgender or whatever. Just
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  Speaker 2: make a good fucking story, Make something entertaining, make something
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  Speaker 2: that's good. But the problem is is that they substitute
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  Speaker 2: the story arcs and the character developments for them being
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  Speaker 2: of a different ethnicity, or for them being of a
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  Speaker 2: different sexual preference or being a different gender.
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  Speaker 1: You can't you can't do that.
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  Speaker 2: You just can't do it. Okay. That's why all these
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: movies suck. It's not because the genders have been flipped.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: It's not because that it's a black person or a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Mexican or a Tin or whatever. It's because the story
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: fucking sucks. It's because the writing sucks. It's because there's
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: no character development. They're relying solely based upon them doing
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: the thing, the subversive thing, and changing the gender roles
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: or changing the ethnicity. I do not care about gender roles.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: They do not care about ethnicity. Freaking get Out was
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: freaking incredible. They all of Jordan Peel's movies are freaking incredible.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: They all feature, you know, people of you know, a
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: different race. I do not care. I don't don't even see.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: You just have to make a good fucking movie, Cube,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: That's all that you gotta do. That is literally all
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: that I care about. I do not care about the race,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: the gender, the sexual proclivities. Just make something fucking good, okay,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: don't care. They could be a zebra fucking person from uh,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: half cat, half animal, alien human hybrid. I don't give
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: a shit, but they got to make a good product.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: It's gotta be good, dude. Like you can't make a
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: subpar thing train of subvert expectations. It falls flat and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: does not deliver. Ever, it's never worked. But they want
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: to turn around and blame it on the ethnicity issue,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: or the gender role issue, or the sexual proclivities issue.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: But that's not what it is. It's the story, it's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: the writing, it's character development.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Right right, you're right, you're right. I ain't gonna argue
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: with the g on that one. So what we're looking
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like Season three will be completely from Abbey's point of
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: view for probably about six episodes, because we seem to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: be regressing in a number of episodes we can within
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: two years, and then uh, season four will probably be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: about either four to five episodes. Help just make it
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: a two hour movie, you know what I'm saying, And
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: that'll be a direct, direct conflict between Ellie and Abbey
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and then we can all go home.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: H Well, that's supposedly what they're doing with the new
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: season or Stranger Things, that's what they're doing there.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: A Brown many Bobby Brown was a little, a little
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: kid tom boy ish looking when that's when that ship started.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: But she's a full grown, good looking woman. Now you
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, booby popping brands down. I'm like, yo,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: y'all took a little bit too too much time. What
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: happened to the days? You remember when they made Harry Potter.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: They didn't funk around like they made Harry Potter like
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: they made the movies. It's like, uh, their children when
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: this happens. So we need to Harry the fuck up.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And that's the that's a whole other thing.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Because they just recounted Harry Potter. Have you seen the
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: The actors that are playing Harry Potter.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Harry Potter have been done.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: They don't need to do what they're remaking it on
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: the HBO show. Google it real quick, put in HBO,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: remix Harry Potter and bring it up on the screen.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: H HBO Harry Potter series finds this Harry Ron and
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Hermione which ain't gonna lie to you, Emma Watson. But
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: she's she's tough man. Uh okay, hold on, hold on,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: hold on. They got something different right here. This may
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: not be what you've seen before. That may they may
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: have reverse chorse.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: Bring it up on the screen sweas.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is this is just from a day
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: again or from man I'm sorry. Uh So they got
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: Dominique McLoughlin. We'll play Harry Potter. So this cat so
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: they changed it.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: No what they cast the sneape and the scroll down some.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: U uh yeah, I think snape was black wheny in
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the I think I've seen that, Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Which I am. I mean like I don't care. But
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: they also kind of cast the freaking Trinity Killer as
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: as the serial killer from Dexter they got Yeah, they
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: got the lady and I'm actually excited about Hermione, because
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: she actually seems like that she's a good child actor
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: and can probably play the part really good. And that's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: the way that you that you cast something right. You
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: don't cast it just because of their of dee I purposes.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: You just don't do that. And that's what they've been doing. Okay,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: you get the best actor that can do the best job.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: Get the person for the job. Okay, we've seen that
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: with these with these freaking uh these what was it
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: the flight the airline flight people or whatever. They were
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: just hiring them because they were of like some sort
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: of ethnicity or whenever, all these problems started, Like no, bro,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Like you got to get people that are certified for
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: the job, that is the best person for the job.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Like you just don't bring people in because they're the
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: for de I, because you got to meet a quota
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: for for DEI. That's not how this shit works. And
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: that's why you're getting all these failed movies and all
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: these failed projects. It's because you're the fact that this
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: is a that we're flipping the rolls, we're gender reversing it.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: We're making an all female Ghostbusters, you know what I mean.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: And they're doing it just because it's an all female Ghostbusters.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: We got to break that patriarchy up a little bit there,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: Like it.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense. Now. If you wrote a good
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: story and the story called for a all female Ghostbusters,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: then great, make the movie. But you've tailored the entire
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: movie around it being an all fe email Ghostbusters movie.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm just using Ghostbuster as an example, but they've
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: done that several times with gender roles and ethnicity groups.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Like whenever you tailor the entire thing around this new
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: gender flipping role and it's not a good It just
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: falls flat, dude, it just does not work and people
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: do not like it. And then they blame this last
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: episode of the Last of Us having the fifty five
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: percent drop because of the holiday weekend. See they use
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: all these excuses. Oh, well, people don't like bell Ramsey
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: because Beller Ramsey is coming out as lgbt Q, she's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: gender fluid, and she's a lesbian and all this. She
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: likes girls. That's why they don't like her. No, we
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: don't like her because she fucking sucks. That's all it is.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: That's all it is, HBO. She just sucks. We don't
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: like her character. That doesn't mean that she sucks as
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: a person. Again, I'm sure she's a great person. I
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: don't care what she does off the screen. You have
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: to deliver a good performance and the writing has to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: be on point, especially for something as high and critically
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: acclaimed as the Last of Us. Okay, you have to
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: do it right. And they didn't do it right, and
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: they screwed up her character. And I'm allowed to say
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: that I do not like her character. Her character sucks
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with her BBDA or LGBTQ, and
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: if she was black, it wouldn't have anything to do
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: with her being black, Or if she was Mexican, it
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have anything to do with her being Mexican. It
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: has everything to do with her character within the show.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Her character within the show sucks. Massive naked guy that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: Isaac was torturing sucks big. Make a guide dick, right,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: which was torture?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That one? All right, So we're gonna we're gonna
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: wrap this up. We appreciate Rider being with us for
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: this journey going through the last of US Season two.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: We want to have him back for some future shows.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: Letting y'all know, I'm gonna be checking a few films out.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna be doing some recordings on some previous
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: films that I had watched as well, so people can
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: know of what I think about him. I'll be talking about, uh,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: the most recent Captain of America movie and the Thunderbolts movie,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: as well as Sinners. But we do have a movie
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: coming out this week that I'm actually excited to go watch,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: and that's Ballerina from the World of John Wick that
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: comes out tomorrow. Okay, actually tonight. If you've got in
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: your area. You know his twelve o'clock if you've got
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: people who got the midnight showing that's coming out. Also,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: we've got uh the first Introduction, Official Introduction to the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: d CU, James Gunn's DCU Superman that is coming out
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: in July, as well as Marvel's Last Hope for this year,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: which is the Fantastic for First Steps. Both of those
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: should be out in July. H'all plan on checking out
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: and see what we got, see if we got anything there. Uh,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: the Superman want to be interesting because they're trying to
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: kick start that back again and we'll see if James
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Gunn is able to to move that into in a
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: good direction. I thought that he did a fantastic job
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: with the Guardian of the Guardians of the Galaxy series,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: which he did do the production for all for all
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: of those, so you know, maybe he'll be able to
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: get the dc Universe on the correct path. Uh. So yeah,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that stuff. Make sure you're
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: going and you're checking out everything. Right of Lee does
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: ridy rdy. You got a website you want to send
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: them to.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: You can just follow me on rais by Grants on
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: YouTube and in all podcast platforms. But The Ballerina is
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: a perfect example, really quickly before we go. The Ballerina
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: is a perfect example of this because I'm pretty sure
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: that the main character in The Ballerina is a woman, yes,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: m and I don't care.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: I think it's great.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Because I know that whoever it is is going to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: be fucking badass and I'm going to love it because
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: this is from the creators of John Wick, the.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: World of John Wick, and what it actually it actually
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: hooks you because in the title is from the World
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: of John Wick Ballerina, so that's in there, so anything
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: john Wick related. All the John Wick films are great.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: The Continental which is a mini series on Peacock, fantastic
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: mini series. If people have not watched it, me and
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Corey cover that, go watch it. Fantastic. And from what
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing from this Ballerina, which is going to be
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: located between the third and four films of the John
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Wick movie, that's when this is actually taking place, and
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: we do have a cameo of Keanu Reeves in this movie.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good movie. All right.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: They haven't disappointed me yet. Special Effect's gonna be great
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna see some some his roll. We're gonna
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: see some folks get taken out. True revenge story. I
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: like a revenge story. Okay, I think everybody loves a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: revenge story, all.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: Right, me too, And this is the perfectly I'm gonna
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: go see a ball Ballerino because I just I love
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: the Continental on the Peacock as well. I thought that
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: that was amazing. It was only three episodes, but each
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: episode was like in an hour and forty five minutes long. Incredible.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: We do of season two? They probably won't, but I'm
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: excited for them to expand this john Wick universe because
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: they've hit everything. I just rewatched john Wick four the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: other day. Incredible.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: There's so many there's so many characters that they can
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: pull from and uh and make stuff, you know what
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, and just expand the lower of the uh
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: the assassination of the assassin community, you know. So there's
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: a lot they can do with this and uh it
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: is that then I think they'll they'll do well.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: There's another movie on Netflix that I really like that
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: it's an all female cast and it's about this you
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: might have seen it, but it's about this girl that
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: her mom's an assassin, and she leaves her in a
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: like a diner or whatever when she's really young, and
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: then she thinks that her mom's dad, and.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: Then she grows up in this assassin world and becomes
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: one of the best assassins. I don't remember the name
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: of it, but it's a really badass movie. And that's
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: the way that you portray these characters. If you're going
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: to do these female leads like, you have to make
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: them bad ass.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: That's what you do. And we will suspend our suspend belief.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well, I mean, well, like
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: I'll take and I'll jump that to the side. You know,
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: I watched Peppermint with let's say, Jennifer Garner. I thought
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: it was a good movie, but it gave her context.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: She's seen her her her husband, and her kids get
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: killed in front of her, so she trained her asshole
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: for years to come back and kill the people who
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: killed her her husband and kids. So it's like, all right,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: been perfect, perfect, you know, context of what I got
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: going on. She put the work in, she's ready to
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: go kick some ass. Banging there we go, let's take off.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Is I think that's all we were looking for in
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: the Last of Us.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's other revenge movies that are also like that
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: as well. There's one that is about this woman that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: gets put inside of this uh like elite hunting group
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: where she's like invited to this like island or whatever,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: and she is, I guess, at this party or whatever.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: They just invite a bunch of these like women to
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: the party and then like they hunt them. Yeah, really
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: good movie. Like it's not hard, guys, it's not hard.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: They can really yeah, maybe flip the gender roles and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: you can flip the ethnicity without compromising the story and
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: the writing and right, it's pretty freaking easy. But they
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: just don't want to do it for some reason.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, So maybe we've got a few hits on
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: the way. Oh, we'll come around. Let y'all know about that.
• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:04
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• 1:19:07
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• 1:19:10
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• 1:19:13
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