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#0259_ Jeffrey Epstein’s Hidden Secrets — Who Knows the Truth, and Why Is It Still Unanswered? · INSPIRE STORY

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  Speaker 1: John Delaney. Sean. Real news, no bullshit. Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I fucking love your page. I appreciate it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how I found it. I think, how long
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  Speaker 2: have you guys been around?
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  Speaker 1: We started up in 2020. Excuse me, 2021. Right before
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration came in. Um, and I kind of
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  Speaker 1: got into it. I tell you, I, I, I, you
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  Speaker 1: want me to get it right into it? No, I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say, we'll get into that. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into why you started it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think, I think I found you. I had
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  Speaker 2: to be like, right when it first came out. Cause I've,
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I found you during COVID.
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  Speaker 1: I think I found you during COVID.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I was looking embarrassingly.
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  Speaker 2: I've bought off on the whole, you know, narrative for about,
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  Speaker 2: the first two months.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I was the, I was out there spraying the packages
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  Speaker 2: with Lysol and.
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  Speaker 1: Doing all that. And then, and then I talked to
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  Speaker 1: some buddies of mine that were down in.
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  Speaker 2: Florida, some fellow, uh, seals. We did a zoom call
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  Speaker 2: and they started, so I didn't have any, um, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have any cable TV. I still don't because I,
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  Speaker 2: I've always thought, well, not always, but I thought the
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  Speaker 2: news is completely full of shit for several years now. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: But anyways, so I never, we just don't have cable.
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm like, it's fucking worthless. Right. But we did
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  Speaker 1: have air TV.
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  Speaker 2: So when COVID came out, I had air TV, but
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  Speaker 2: the only news station we got was ABC.
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  Speaker 1: So you know what that was? Yeah. You know what
• 1:50
  Speaker 1: that was? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We're all going to die. Everybody in Italy is dead.
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  Speaker 2: The hospital beds.
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  Speaker 1: Are completely tracker number.
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  Speaker 2: And, uh, and then I talked to my buddies and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I think about, I think, uh, I think
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  Speaker 2: I may be off on this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, um, and anyway, so I started looking for different
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  Speaker 2: sources on social and yours must've popped up and dude, I.
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  Speaker 1: Love what you guys are doing. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: It just seems like straight facts, no spin, no opinions,
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  Speaker 2: no analysis.
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  Speaker 1: Just this is what's happening. And that's it. Right. And
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  Speaker 1: here's what this guy's saying. Yeah. Here's what that guy's saying. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Figure it out. I love it, man.
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  Speaker 2: So for anybody listening, real news, no bullshit on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: is where I follow you. But are you guys on
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  Speaker 2: X and everything else?
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  Speaker 1: We're on X. X is full of a bunch of bots. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All that shit. So we've kind of geared away from it.
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  Speaker 1: I also feel like X is a little bit too loud.
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  Speaker 1: There's too much shit on there. we're going to jump
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  Speaker 1: back on it because I feel like I haven't found
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  Speaker 1: anyone on X that's just keeping it real. But just that,
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  Speaker 1: and then we have a website. That's pretty much it.
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  Speaker 1: Right on. Instagram's our thing. Well, let me give you
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  Speaker 1: an introduction here. Okay, man.
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  Speaker 2: John Delaney, founder of Real News No Bullshit, a platform
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  Speaker 2: dedicated to delivering unfiltered news on global events. Self-made entrepreneur
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  Speaker 2: who started young, turning ventures like selling fake IDs in
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  Speaker 2: high school and other hustles into life lessons. An old
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  Speaker 2: soul who grew up fascinated by the news while your
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  Speaker 2: peers were into cartoons. A truth seeker who transformed a
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  Speaker 2: personal Instagram account into a news page, now employing others
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  Speaker 2: and focusing on real stories amid media noise. Not a
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  Speaker 2: decorated veteran or official. But a man with scars from
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  Speaker 2: life's mistakes, exploring faith through daily Bible reading and committed
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  Speaker 2: to staying on a path guided by a higher purpose.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: How's that? How's that? It was good. Right on. Right on.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, John. So a couple of things to
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: get through before we get started. Dude, I've heard about these.
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  Speaker 1: Vigilance League gummy bears. Yeah, man. Made in the USA.
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  Speaker 2: Legal in all 50 states. Not that you have to
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  Speaker 2: worry about that in California. And then we just came out.
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  Speaker 2: We've released these a couple years ago and then didn't
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  Speaker 2: do it again until this year. But I think you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get these. Vigilance Elite S'more Bites. Those things
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  Speaker 2: are worse than crack.
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  Speaker 1: Really? Okay, man. Well, I have a gift for you, Sean. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: I love gifts. It's an interesting story before I give
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  Speaker 1: this to you. I told you I'm trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out what I believe in right now.
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: grew up Catholic, but I just. You're talking like God, Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: what's it all about? I haven't figured it out, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to. And a good friend of mine that
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  Speaker 1: you could envision him. He's like the Dan Blazarian of
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  Speaker 1: my friends, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Told me recently, his name's Dom, that he's reading the
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  Speaker 1: Bible every day. And that shocked me because this is
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  Speaker 1: not the guy I would expect to be reading the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, shit, if he's reading the Bible, then
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  Speaker 1: what the hell am I doing with my life?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: So I recently picked up a Bible, and I'm reading
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  Speaker 1: a page a day. Good for you, man. And my
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  Speaker 1: goal is I want to go after the Bible. I
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  Speaker 1: want to read everything. I don't know. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: subscribe to the idea that we're just all here because
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  Speaker 1: of a big explosion. There's gotta be something. There's some
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  Speaker 1: sort of creator. And I don't, I wanna find something
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  Speaker 1: that I believe in. But with that being said, I
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  Speaker 1: know you're a man of faith. So I have this
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  Speaker 1: gift for you. That is, it's a piece of American history.
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  Speaker 1: That is a Bible that was pulled out of a
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  Speaker 1: burning church during the Civil War in 1864.
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  Speaker 2: Pulled out of a church during the Civil War in 1864.
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  Speaker 1: Burning church. So the story behind that Bible goes is
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  Speaker 1: that in 1864, there was a church in Jacksonville, Florida.
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  Speaker 1: And at the time, a bunch of Union soldiers were
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  Speaker 1: sent up from South Carolina to go to Jacksonville and
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  Speaker 1: to basically get control of Jacksonville and They called the
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  Speaker 1: town at the time was a Copperhead town, which means
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  Speaker 1: there were rebel sympathizers. So their job was to go
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  Speaker 1: in there and basically get everything under control. And the
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  Speaker 1: church got burned down. And the interesting thing is nobody
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  Speaker 1: knows who burned the church. They both blame each other.
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  Speaker 1: You got the rebel sympathizer said the Union soldiers did it.
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  Speaker 1: The Union soldiers said the rebel sympathizers did it. But
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  Speaker 1: the reality is the church burned. And for what I
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: think we're going to talk about today, it kind of
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  Speaker 1: fits well because I think both sides are blaming each
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  Speaker 1: other for everything. That sounds familiar, doesn't it? It does. So,
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: you know, I was going to get you like an
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  Speaker 1: antique gun or something. I said, you know, Sean has
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  Speaker 1: too many guns. And I know you're a man of faith.
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  Speaker 1: And hopefully that should be in a museum, I think. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: this is... Thank you, man. I appreciate it. This is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So you're into it. You're reading a page a day.
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  Speaker 1: How long are you up to? I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I was slacking a little bit. I finished, shit, I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm maybe 25 pages in, but there were a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days I didn't get to it and I
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  Speaker 1: was making excuses for myself. And then somebody told me,
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  Speaker 1: you can listen to it on audio.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So now there's no excuse. So I go through Two
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  Speaker 1: to three chapters a day. I restarted because I didn't
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: know there's a difference between, is it NVE or NVD?
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  Speaker 1: I'm no expert, man. There's different forms. I know there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different versions. There's different versions of the Bible.
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  Speaker 1: And you have to understand, like, I'm starting this. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know shit. So I'm reading some King James version
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  Speaker 1: where they talk very eloquently. Yeah. And it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: hard for me to, you know, what does this work? Why,
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  Speaker 1: you know? What does it mean? Give it to me
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  Speaker 1: in a more digestible way. Dude, I got something for you.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on. So I'm not ashamed. I'm not ashamed to
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  Speaker 1: say that, dude, I don't understand the Bible.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I just, it just, it doesn't seem, I'll read
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  Speaker 2: a page five times in a row and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what this means.
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  Speaker 1: I have to have somebody to explain it. So, this
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  Speaker 1: book was given to me.
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  Speaker 2: I've sent this to like anybody who's a really good
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  Speaker 2: friend of mine who is trying to, trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: it all out.
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  Speaker 1: So here, this is called.
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  Speaker 2: The Jesus calling. And it's only about what Jesus said.
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  Speaker 2: You read one little, less than a paragraph in the
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  Speaker 2: morning when you wake up, I like to read it
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  Speaker 2: before I go to bed. And it's just, just, Give
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: it a shot. It's not a big lift. It makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: It's not hard to understand if a dummy like me
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  Speaker 2: can get it.
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  Speaker 1: We're both there, man. Just see how it makes you feel. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Just see how it makes you feel.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me feel really good.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of times when I read it, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like it's i feel like it's like fucking talking to
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  Speaker 2: me like really yeah like it's a direct reflection of
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  Speaker 2: what i just went through in the day that's why
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  Speaker 2: i like to read it at night before i go
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  Speaker 2: to bed so but yeah very plain terms easy to
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  Speaker 2: understand low lift and uh give it a shot yeah
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  Speaker 2: just see how it makes you feel but Dude, I'm
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  Speaker 2: happy for you.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. It's something different, and I hope I can
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  Speaker 1: figure something out. We're all on this path. Just lean in, man.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: Lean in. All right.
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: So I got a Patreon account. It's a subscription account.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: It's quite the community. They've been with us here since
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: the beginning, and really they're the reason that I get
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: to sit here with you today. And so one of
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: the things we do is we offer them the opportunity
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: to ask each and every guest a question. This is
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  Speaker 2: from Kirk Powers. From your experience in analyzing different media
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  Speaker 2: sources and their content over the last five years, what
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  Speaker 2: percentage of the modern day media output resembles propaganda instead
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  Speaker 2: of factual news coverage?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Was that Kurt? That was a packed question. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Two ways I want to go about this. If we
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: look at, let's look at international media. A lot of
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: them are either state controlled, state affiliated, state owned, state funded, right?
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  Speaker 1: So you would naturally assume that those outlets have some
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: sort of agenda or narrative that they're pushing. that would
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  Speaker 1: push what someone might define as propaganda. But the thing
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: that's interesting is how do you define propaganda? Right. Very
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: interesting because I went to Ukraine and I did a
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  Speaker 1: documentary about the war in Ukraine and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: talk to both sides, Russians and Ukrainians. But at the
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: time there were a lot of Russians, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Americans in Russia that were getting arrested, journalists. So it
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: makes it hard for me to go to Russia. but
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: we did some remote interviews. And one of the interviews
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: we did was with a doctor who worked for the
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  Speaker 1: Wagner Group. And this is the first time, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of ties together to what he was asking. This is
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  Speaker 1: the first time I ever got my dose of, holy shit,
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  Speaker 1: like this is what propaganda looks like. He said, just
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: come to Moscow. Instead of doing this virtual bullshit interview,
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  Speaker 1: Because it's hard to hear you. Just come to Moscow
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  Speaker 1: after Ukraine. I said, what the fuck? We're not going
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  Speaker 1: to Russia? You guys are locking up journalists left and
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  Speaker 1: right and calling them spies. His response, I thought he,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: I was so shocked. He said, what are you talking about?
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: What do you mean, what am I talking about? He's like,
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  Speaker 1: we're not locking up American journalists. I said, it's all
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: over the news. What are you talking about? We've arrested
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  Speaker 1: two and they were spies. Haven't you seen all the stories?
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  Speaker 1: And they caught them red-handed and there's videos and this
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  Speaker 1: and that. And I'm like, what the hell is this guy?
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  Speaker 1: I know the accusation that they were spies, but what
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Yeah, our media, our news, they've
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: shown all this and that. He said, and this still
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: fucks with me to this day. He said, I'm more
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: concerned for you when you go home. And I said,
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? He's like, don't you
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: see what they're doing to you guys and your people?
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  Speaker 1: They're arresting. At the time, President Trump was being, he
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: had all that criminal cases against him. So they said,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: look what they're doing to your politicians. Look what they're
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: doing to, I believe at the time, was it Matt
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Taibbi that was getting audited by the IRS? And it
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: was very questionable how he got the audit or they
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: were looking for him or whatever. So all these things,
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: and this guy's throwing me all this information and I'm like, wow,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: you live in a totally different reality. And, um, it
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  Speaker 1: made me like after talking with him for so long,
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  Speaker 1: it made me start to question, am I being lied to?
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  Speaker 1: Because the propaganda is so good. So, um, Going back
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: to his question, I would say, what's your definition of propaganda?
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: What's your definition of propaganda? Just things that are outright
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: bullshit that they're pushing. So for one example, when the
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: United States carried out some strikes in Yemen, I believe
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: it was when Trump came into office a couple months in,
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: there was accounts on X posting AI-generated images of them
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: shooting down an F-35 that was the size of straight-up bullshit.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're generated images, and they're pushing this out,
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  Speaker 1: and they've got bots amping it up. And I think
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  Speaker 1: something like that is easily definable as propaganda because it's
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  Speaker 1: clearly not true, and they're pushing it to create some
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  Speaker 1: sort of a narrative. But it's hard because... You know,
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  Speaker 1: I absorb a lot of news.
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  Speaker 2: I would say propaganda is any form of manipulation of
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  Speaker 2: the truth, to include lying. And that also includes withholding truth.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so, you know, all the nuanced shit that
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: we see in the media today and they, you know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: they paint out these, they paint it out to one
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: side and yes, there are facts involved in what they're reporting,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: but However, there are a lot of facts that they
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: leave out that paint an entirely different picture. And that's
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  Speaker 2: for both sides. That's for the entire world.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the problem. I look at journalism as you're
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: painting a picture to somebody. And depending on where you
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: get that picture from, it might be a little heavier
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: on the red paint or the blue paint, or it
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: might not even have that color. And So it's hard
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: to really narrow down how much of it is bullshit
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  Speaker 1: and how much of it isn't because everybody has a
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: different story. Like right now, for example, I was just
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  Speaker 1: talking to Jeff about this. We had an article the
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  Speaker 1: other day about Secretary Hegseth is talking about giving Ukraine
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: new firepower, quote unquote firepower. And the big talk right
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: now is that we might be giving them Tomahawks. Don't
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: know how much you've been following that, but prior when
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Biden was in office, they were saying, if you give
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: medium range missiles, not even Tomahawks, that could lead us
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: down to the path of nuclear war. And we're now
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: at Tomahawks possibly. So our media right now is talking
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  Speaker 1: about is that there's the possibility we might be doing it,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but what's really interesting, and they're saying they would do
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: it because Putin's refusing to stop the war. But what
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I like to do is, and I want to say, well,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: what's Russia saying? So, and anybody can do this, and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I encourage everybody to, because you should be open to everything.
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  Speaker 1: And Russia is painting this narrative right now, whether true
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: or not, I don't want to give my direct opinion
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: on it, but that Trump has switched on Russia and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: is now going towards Ukraine. But the reason why is
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: because And it's very convincing that they're telling their people
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: is the U.S. doesn't want the war to end because
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the military industrial complex is making shitloads of money off
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  Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. So that's why Trump has flipped
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  Speaker 1: and is willing to escalate the war and continue it
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to go on. And that's, I was telling just some people,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Americans about this, and they said it kind of sounds believable.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: And that's what they're telling their people. So the thing is,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: is You're going to get a different side of everything,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: no matter where you look. And no one's ever really
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: going to give you the full picture. And it's hard
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: to zero in on what's true and what's not. You
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: might say one thing, and the guy behind you has
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a different story. Oh, yeah. I'm very familiar with it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: It's tough.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so if you had to put a, you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: A percentage, what percentage of the media do you think
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: is full out propaganda?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: It's hard to give a percentage. Would you say it's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: an overwhelming amount? Yeah, it is because everybody has a
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: different interest. Everybody has a different position. I mean, to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, naturally, I'm an American citizen. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: would naturally have interests that I would want my country
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: to do well because I live here. I would be
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: lying to you if I said that I'm not somewhat
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: pro-American in a way. Yeah. Right. Well, that's good to hear. Yeah. But, but,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: but you know what I mean? So take, take somebody else,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: maybe some, a Russian journalist or a Chinese journalist, an
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Iranian journalist, an Israeli journalist. They all have, I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: they have an invested interest to make sure, you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you have a family, things have to go well for you. So,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and that's the hard part is trying to figure out
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: what's true and what's not. And I take a different approach.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think I should be telling you what the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: truth is. I think I should just give it to you. Say,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: here's everything. Here's the entire picture. Here's all the narratives.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Here's all the color. Now, what do you believe? And
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: that's what I think's lacking in the media. Like what
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I do, Sean, I'm not a genius. You know, I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: was the dumbest kid in my class growing up. 1.7 GPA.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: struggling through high school. I was an idiot in middle school.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I've only read one book in my entire life. Are
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you serious? One book. What was it? It's called The
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Art of Not Giving a Fuck. Well, now you're reading
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: the Bible. That too. Listening to it. You see, so
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it's not hard to do this. It's just, it's for
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: some reason, I think a lot of people feel like
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: they have to give their opinion or their stance and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and tell you I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: an expert. Yeah. But I'm a good listener.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: What was the motivation that got you to start Real News,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: No Bullshit? It's a couple of things. So I started
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: posting the news. I had an Instagram at the time.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: They call it a, so it's funny. There's Instagrams and
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: then there's Finstas.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Have you heard of that?
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: No.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Finsta is like what they call, it's like a fun Instagram.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So you're a little more raw, I guess, with your friends.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: So I started posting to my friends the news because
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I recognized that none of them were paying attention to
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what was going on in the world. They were kind
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of like clueless. So I started just saying, hey guys,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you should be paying attention to this. Like, this is crazy. Like,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: look at this, look at that. And, uh, that started
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: building and friends started referring friends. So I had more
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: friends start following me cause they were interested in the
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: news and they wanted it in a digestible, easy to read.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Here's what's happening. Here's what this guy said. And here's
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: what that guy said. Um, and it, it slowly started
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: building on my personal Instagram and over time, um, it
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: became more than just friends joining me. It was friends
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: plus now their parents. And I'm like, okay, shit, I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: got something. But what did it for me, and I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: want to be clear, like I'm not giving an opinion
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: about what happened this day, but the day January 6th happened,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I cried. Because I saw that Like, fuck, dude, we're
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: so divided, right? I get emotional. It's sad. But I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: was like, what the fuck is going on? Everybody's so divided.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Whether you're left or you're right, I just said, dude,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I can't, like, what do I do? Mm-hmm. So I said,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make an Instagram account. I'm going to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: make this bigger. And I was mad. I was mad.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: What angered me the most, it wasn't just about people
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: going in or whatever. People say it was peaceful. Some
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: people say it wasn't. I'm not here to debate that
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: with anybody. But what I am here to tell you
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: is that the division that was amplified that day from
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: both sides was sickening. And I said, we've got to
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: get back to a place where people can start treating
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Americans like Americans again. And we're far from that, dude.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: We're super far from that. And it's getting, every day
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's getting worse. So I, after January 6th,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: when I saw all that and then I saw, like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I saw social media, Republicans are blaming Democrats and Democrats
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: are screaming at Republicans and the media is, spinning it
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: their ways, you know, you turn on, um, CNN and they've,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they've got their view and MSNBC, they're paying it like,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: this is insane. And then you've got Fox news painting
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: in a different way. And you've got people saying different
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: things and getting mad and screaming and yelling. And I said,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? What are we doing?
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Um, So that was the day I was like, we
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: need to find a way to get people informed, and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: we need to find a way to maybe try to
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: get people to see both sides, because I think the
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: echo chambers were too loud. I mean, it's true. And
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I want to be clear. Some people in my listeners
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: would be like, He's saying that January 6th was an
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: awful thing, or he's not talking about the FBI agents.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: You're not understanding what I'm saying. You're not on my level.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I've never discussed that on here. But my thing is this,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and I want to be clear. For what reason? I'm
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: not going there because that has nothing to do with
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. You're getting tied up in all
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the noise. I'm talking to you right now as an American,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: not as a Democrat, not as a Republican. I'm talking
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: to you about somebody that lives here. That was a
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: shitty day. And it's one example of just... It's sad.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: It is. It's sad. I mean, it's sad. I mean,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: so you started this because of January 6th. It wasn't
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: specifically January 6th because I was into it before. I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: was posting the news because I realized my friends weren't
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: paying attention to what was going on in the world.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: But what pushed me to then say, okay, I'm taking
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: this to the next level. Instead of just posting this
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to my friends, I'm going to try to reach a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: bigger audience. So I was always into this. But what
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: pushed me to then say, I need to get out there.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I need to, this can't be just some little private
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: thing that my friends get to read. Because I can't change,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: you know, a couple hundred people, right?
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: What's that going to do? I need to try to
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: get a little louder. So I still remember the day
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: I started it, man. I was pouring rain. I was
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: in a gas station. And I said, you know, fuck it.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make. I'm going to make a news account.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there and signing up the account and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: asked me and says, what are you going to name
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: this thing? You know, what's the username going to be?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And it was, didn't even think about it. Real news,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: no bullshit. Nice. And that was it. And then, you know, it,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It's crazy where it's gone. Like I still sit every day,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not real. But I think there's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: a huge craving in this country right now for just
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the news. And what I'm doing is not crazy. I'm
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: not revolutionary. I'm not. I'm just literally telling you, this
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: is the picture. Here's some color on the red. Here's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: some color on the blue. Figure it out. I'm not
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: here to give you the answer. A lot of people
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: in this.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I think what you're saying, and I agree, I think
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: I know what you're saying. Basically what you're saying is
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you are not telling people how to think or what
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: to think. You are presenting them with whatever's out in
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the ecosystem at the time. You don't put a spin
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: on it. This is what's happened.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: This is who's saying it.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: You make your own damn mind up.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: That's what I try to do here. Right, and- It's
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: interesting because a lot of people aren't used to that.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: They have to be told how to think. They have
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: to be spoon-fed information.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I think we've lost the majority of the older generations.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think those are salvageable. What do you mean
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: by that?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I think what I mean by that, what I mean
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: by that is my mind right now is how do
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: we salvage it? You're trying to salvage it through real news,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: no bullshit. I'm trying to salvage it through a couple
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: of different ways, talking to both sides, not telling people
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: how to think, letting them digest the information very much
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: similar to what you're doing. But taking a look at
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: it from a 30,000-foot view, when you see people... lots
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: of people who continuously just, they get their information from one,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: only one source, only one news station, you know, that
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: typically is the baby boomer generation. Their world has been
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: flipped upside down. They don't know what to think.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: They are... Brainwashed.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Insalvageable, brainwashed voters.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That's what that is. That are incapable of absorbing another view. Exactly.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And that's why I tell people, and I, I hope
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you don't mind if I say this, if you're listening
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: to this and you lean left or right or middle,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: or you watch, let's say you watch CNN or you
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: watch Fox news, or you watch MSNBC, because that's what
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you like. And that's what you believe. Great. Good for you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Do me a favor, take 30 minutes out of your
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: day and go watch something completely counter-opposite to that. Why?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Because you need to challenge your thoughts. If you get
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: stuck in an echo chamber, then you're basically being herded
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: like sheep.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. Right?
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So I have friends that lean left and right. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: tell them all the time, go listen. Like, I have
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: a very liberal friend who can't stand, like, I could
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just pull somebody younger, though. So I said, go listen
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to Benny Johnson for 30 minutes. I could never do that.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Do it. Make sure you believe what you believe. I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: have another friend, super conservative. Go listen to those girls
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: on MSNBC. Dude, I can't do it.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Just prove yourself that you're right. Prove that what you
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: believe is what you believe. And a lot of people
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: need to do that. You need to be diversifying your
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: news sources because there's too much, unfortunately, there's too much
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: noise in it today. with this rise of independent media,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and we'll get into this, there's a lot of activists
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: masquerading as journalists. And you've got to now get out
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: there and pick a handful of the ones you like
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and a handful of the ones you don't agree with
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: because you'd be surprised when you get stuck in your
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: echo chamber how much you're not hearing about other shit.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: You know? People will say all the time, I had
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: no idea about this. Oh, maybe it's because you listen
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to CNN all day or Fox News. They leave things out. Remember,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I told you they paint a picture. They might not
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: include that stroke or that line. But it can be
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: to their credit.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: And I'm dealing with this right now. It's not just
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: mainstream media. We were just talking about independent. It feels
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: like the algorithm will put you in a cage It's dangerous.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It's a cage.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: And you can tell when you're in a cage when
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: every other post is all the same subject.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: And it's not just the same subject. It's a specific
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: one-sided narrative about that subject.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: And you are encapsulated inside of that algorithm. You cannot
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: navigate your way out.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: It's immense control. And it's truly, like, I don't even
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: think people understand the scope of it. And it could
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: be weaponized very easily. And we get some times, some
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: people will say, you guys only post right-leaning stuff, or
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you only post left-leaning stuff. I'm like, no, we post both.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: It's just your algorithm is cooking it up to you
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: the way that it wants you to see it. Go
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: actually tap and read.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: You know? And it's interesting. You're right. It's The algorithm
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: has a play in it. There's a lot of things that.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: So how have you set your team up? How have
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: you set your team up to be real news, no bullshit?
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: We started with four. We're down to two, plus me.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: And then I've got some part-time people, but I have
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: two people that write for me that don't agree on anything.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: But you know what's special about those two people? While
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: they don't agree on anything politically, One's got blue hair
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and one's a super right-leaning guy. You know what I mean?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Like that you would never, the stereotypes for both sides,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that's what I have. And while they don't agree on anything,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: they're friends and they can work together. So what I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: do is I write a little bit, but they mostly write.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And let's say I have somebody write something. I don't
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: want to name her, but let's say she writes something.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I'll say, hey, Now you write this, go add your
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: flavor to it, right? And then what I kind of
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: do is I take both and I put it together.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: So I have two writers, myself, and then some people
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: when we do our documentaries. But it's very, it's a
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: tight ship, dude. Don't need a lot of people. Yeah.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Don't need, you know. How do they find their information?
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: They search a lot. I mean, they read news like
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: everybody else reads news. You know, obviously you can't, just
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: rely on AP or Reuters or whatever, but they'll, they'll
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: go ahead and start looking into a topic, watching press conferences.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: You know, that's something that we do a lot. We're
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: watching a lot of video all day, all these hearings,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: all these, uh, you know, everything that everybody else is absorbing.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: And then we're, we're kind of observing then what the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: left and the right is saying, or if it becomes
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: something international, maybe what the US is saying, the prevailing argument,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and then we'll go take what that country is saying
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: or those people are saying. We kind of just, I
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: kind of look at it as like a book report.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: It's very, and our stuff's very standardized. We give you
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: an intro sentence. We give you sometimes a paragraph about
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: some shit you should know. We always say some shit
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you should know before you dig in. Just some really
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: foundational information that brings somebody up to speed. And then
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it's just, here's what this guy said, here's what that
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: guy said, and that's what's going on. It's not like
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: a whole huge process on how we do this. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: because of that, I figured the less people you have
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: in your bubble, the better. It's less drama, less bullshit.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: How do you keep them from putting their own spin
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: on things? They all naturally have their biases. I think
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that's when I come in. Like we're here right now
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and there's no news being posted while this is being recorded.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Because I'm the final one who has a say on
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: what goes up. That's a double-edged sword. See, like that
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: gives me a lot of influence over my people because
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: technically I'm dictating what my people are saying. But I
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: have this view that both sides suck. This is a game.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: there's a saying that they're two sides of the same coin.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Very true. um and i think that kind of gives
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: me the ability in a way to just take the
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: best arguments from these guys the best arguments from these
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: guys and just put it together um but yeah they
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: do have their spins totally But that's what's the beauty
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of having two people that don't agree on anything working
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: for you. Because you get two really good arguments. How
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: many times are you guys posting a day? Depends. Four
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: to six times a day. We've got on Instagram and
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: then on our website, doing like five to six articles
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: a day. I mean, these bigger news outlets, they're doing 30, 50.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: But a lot of it, I think, is a lot
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: of noise. out of the bullshit. How fast are you growing?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: We're going pretty fast. Uh, seems like it. It's been,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it's technically since then to now, we're almost at 1.6
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: million followers. Do you guys have a newsletter by chance?
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Dude, you need to start a newsletter. Really? Yes. You
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: need to start a newsletter. We just, all we do, man,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: is like, I haven't really refined it because I just, I, uh,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I'm in a way I'm in a position where I
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: just want my news to be accessible. And, um, I
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: didn't really get into this to make money. I genuinely
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: wanted people to wake up. Um, and I think as
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: time has gone on, um, you know, we've just, we've
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: built ourselves on Instagram, man. I haven't spent a dollar
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: on marketing. Wow. Not a dollar. It's the name. Yeah.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Which when I first started, a lot of people told me,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you got to change the name. No one's going to
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: take you seriously. I'm like, I don't give a fuck.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck. Why? Why? It's just what
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: it is. It's real news. No bullshit. Just.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: You take it.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the double-edged sword.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Of independent media. Yeah. I have a very interesting take about.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the rise of independent media. And to get to that,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I think we got to step back just for a
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: second and talk about how we got here. I believe
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that the rise of independent or what I like to
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: call new media began when it first, the first spark,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think, is when Donald Trump announced his run for president,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: his first time. And the word Fake news kicked it off.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: That's from what I've... Now, I'm young, man. I'm not old.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: And so it could have been before that. Someone might
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: listen to this and say, oh, it started way before.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: This is from my view. And when Trump became president,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: we had this war between Trump and the media. And
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I think whether you agreed with the media or you
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: agreed with Trump, it was opening people's eyes to the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: possibility that maybe some people are biased. I grew up
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: watching CNN when I was a little kid. When I
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: was six, seven years old, that was my thing. I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: loved watching CNN and stuff like that. And I never
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: noticed that they had a bias until Trump announced his presidency.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: It was obvious. And I also, at the time I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: was so young, I didn't realize Fox News had a
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: bias that was pro-Republican. But as you get older, you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: start figuring those things out. But when Trump ran, it
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: was crystal clear that there was this rise of clear
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: bias in media. And that, along with him battling the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: media throughout his presidency, started leading to people looking for
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: alternate sources. But what truly lit the fire was COVID.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I believe that when COVID kicked off, there was an
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: active effort to suppress information that was valid. And I'm
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: not gonna get into, I know there's a lot of
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: people that have a lot of different views. Here's one
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: fact that I point to. We got penalized by Meta
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and almost lost our account for talking about the Wuhan
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: lab leak theory. Was it two months after Biden came
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: into office? Almost lost our account. Okay. Now I believe
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's today. Is it with low confidence the CIA says
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that it could have been a lab leak? You know?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Information changes. But, you know, the mainstream media at the
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: time wasn't talking about that. That was a conspiracy theory. Yep. Right?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: You never saw that shit anywhere. And so that's one
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: example out of many where I think people really started
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: opening their eyes in their life.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Why do you think they covered that up? Why do
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: you think that was the forbidden fruit that you're not.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Allowed to talk about? The Wuhan lab leak? Yeah. What
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: is it about the Wuhan? Why don't they want that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: coming out? I mean, your guess would be as good
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: as mine, but I would personally think that if the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: public had an idea... that China was making biological weapons, right?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Because that was the whole idea. They were working on this, whatever.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: That would maybe freak people out. That's a reality I
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: don't want to live in, where we have foreign governments
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: making bioweapons. There's always been foreign governments making bioweapons. Right,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: but I think.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, Syria's been gassing its own people for ever.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Right, right. I mean, it could be something like that.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: It could be, I mean, what? Is the public going
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to demand that the United States do something? What does
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: that response look like? At the time, too, something really interesting.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe it could be this, you know, just coming to
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: my thoughts. When COVID kicked off, where were we getting
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: all of our shit? All of our PPE stuff? China.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: So can we talk shit about China when we need
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: all that shit? Can we? I don't think so. Look
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: what's going on right now with China. As we're sitting
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: here talking, they have a monopoly on rare earth materials
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that we use to make missiles, to airplanes, to the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: shit in your phone, right? And they're putting export restrictions
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: on that stuff. What do you think China would have
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: done if we came out off the bat and said,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: you fuckers leaked it out of the lab fuck you,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: now let me buy 5 billion masks from you. What
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: are they going to say? Are they going to tell
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: you to go kick rocks? Or are they going to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: just take the money and keep doing business? I don't know. But,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, your guess is as good as mine. It
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: could be anything. You know, there's a prevailing theory that
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: was being pushed in China, and I've seen this theory.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked into it. that it leaked out of
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: some U S facility. Have you heard that? University of
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: North Carolina?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Have you, I haven't, I haven't done my research on it,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: but I was like, Oh, that's really interesting. Cause we're
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: saying it leaked out of Wuhan. They're now saying their
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, quote unquote, is it's coming out of some
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: place in North Carolina or wherever, you know? So it's, it's,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah. I've heard that theory. I mean,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: I think China has got us cornered in a lot
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: of different ways and, and, uh, I don't think they
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: necessarily need a reason to pull the plug on us.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: Do you think Americans realize that? I think that a
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: lot of them do now. I tend to think that
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Americans have no idea at the level China's at right now.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I think the listeners of this show have an idea.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I think that people are waking up to it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, 20, was it 20... 2020, yeah, the 2020 election,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you know, it was also, it was also, you know,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: leading up to it, it was, you know, uh, xenophobe,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: you know, all the, all the, in the debates, you
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: weren't allowed to say it.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: It would correct, it would correct you. You know what
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: I mean? It would correct whoever was.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Talking about it, paying them out to be some, some
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: mass racist, you know, against, against China when we're just having,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you know, fucking discussions.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And that's how it should be. You should just let
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: people talk.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: But afterwards, you know, right after the election, you started seeing,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: you know, Democrats started taking China more seriously. It was
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: almost like if he has not been listening to the
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: president for the past four years, he's been talking about
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: this nonstop. Then he was labeled xenophobe. Then the next
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: guy comes in office who's on the other side. And
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: all of a sudden everybody starts taking the shit seriously.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And yeah. Yeah, I look at it really interestingly. I
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: think we're seeing right now, we're in some scary times
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and I don't think people realize it. You've got a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Western rules-based order and you've got an Eastern rules-based order
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: that is now wanting to come up. I tell people,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: you know, when I started giving the news to my friends,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I always would break it down in analogies because I
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: feel like I had to get them to understand a
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: little better. And it's, the United States has undoubtedly been
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the only chef in the kitchen. for a long time.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And what we're seeing now is China saying, hey, we
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: want to cook too. Mm-hmm. The question is, is what
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: are we going to do? Are we going to allow
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: them to cook or are we not? And I would
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: argue that based on everything that's going on right now,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the U.S. isn't willing to give that up. And that
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: can lead to some scary shit. And, uh, Dude, look
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: at what's going on right now. I mean, China is.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: They're building up, man. It's not even... They used to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: say that we would always be ahead. Now I keep
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: hearing they'll be caught up to us in five years.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Trump just said it a couple days ago. So it's inevitable.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's coming, though. And that's scary. Right
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: now in space, something I've been watching a lot, it's
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: not getting a lot of attention. You know, they got
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: satellites in space stalking all of our satellites. Stalking is
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: the words they use. I have assumed that. I did
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: not know that. They've admitted it. Top generals, that we
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: have Russian and Chinese satellites following our satellites every movement.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: And you know what that tells me? Is that this
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: world might not be as stable as we really think
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it is. And that's a hard pill for a lot
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: of people to swallow. I live every moment of my
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: life now because the next 10 minutes isn't guaranteed. That's
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: scary to hear. But when you see shit like that,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: nobody trusts anybody. Yeah. Nobody. Yeah. And I look at
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the news, look at what's going on. I mean, it's fucked.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: It is. And it's I don't know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: It's sad. It's sad.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: What are the pro... Let's get to the... Let's get to...
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: Get back to independent media. I mean, what do you
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: think the pros of independent media are?
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Look, I think it's important to have alternate sources of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: information that aren't controlled by, like, the big five. What
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I mean by the big five is there is... Media
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: like Disney owns certain news outlets. Comcast owns news outlets.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: They're all under their umbrella. Salem Media, which I don't
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: even know if it's possible to show you. They're one
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: of the biggest in the country. Nobody really talks about them.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Have you seen that video where all the reporters are
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: saying the same shit at the same time? About 100 times. Yeah,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: that should scare the shit out of people, right? I
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: hope you can show that. That is... why independent media
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: is important. That video is the perfect example for it
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: because everybody's reading off of a script and that's being
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: disseminated across America. Back to your original person's question, there's propaganda,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: that's propaganda. That's like some Soviet level shit happening in America.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: So the pros of it, obviously we have just an independent,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: not controlled by a certain entity, being able to give
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: out news. So you get that, you get analysis, you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: get different things, and you can kind of bend rules
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit. When I say bend rules, maybe it's
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: not the etiquette to be a regular journalist and follow
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: certain rules or have to do this or that or
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: So there's some bending that I think can maybe lend
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a better picture for people. But I also think that
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of cons with it. What are
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the cons? It's interesting coming from me because you would
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: think I would think this is great. But there are
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of people in this space right now motivated
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: by money. Yeah. Um, because everybody's in it to collect
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: a check. Um, if you open up wherever you get
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: your news right now, let's focus on an independent creator. Um,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: they're all activists. I have not to this day. I actually,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: there's one person I've found, but everybody is basically these
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: new independent creators or news journals or whatever, they're just,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: they're mini CNNs. They're mini Fox News. They're activists. They're
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: not journalists. And they're towing their party lines. And I
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: can give you some examples off the bat that go
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: both sides of this. When President Biden was in office, fact,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: he relied on influencers to push the Inflation Reduction Act,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: brought them to the White House, right? They made some
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: chick that hides under a desk. I don't know if
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you've seen her on TikTok talking about how great the
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Inflation Reduction Act is. I wonder if she was paid.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Another one. Recently, we got a ping pong. All the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: journalists who got invited to the White House to parade
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the Epstein file. What a fucking disaster that was. Fucking disaster.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Holding that shit up like it's a trophy. Yeah, and
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: what did we get? Nothing. What a shit show that is. Yeah,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: it continues to be a shit show. Every day, man.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: And it's bad. It's bad, dude.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: You know what worries me about independent media and mainstream is,
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: you know, you're right.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Everybody's, you know, everybody's driven by money to some extent, right?
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: But you see, like, people will go down rabbit holes
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: and you... you don't see them come out of certain
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: rabbit holes. And then it becomes the thing and they
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: can't leave it. You know, they can't, they- It's a drug.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: It's what the audience expects from them. They get, I
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: don't know what happens, because I like to keep it,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: you know, we'll hit a subject and then we're hit
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: a totally different subject.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I don't dwell in the same.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Subject matter for long. I like to bounce around because
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: every subject can become the one thing that you're known for.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: And you see that with a lot of different subjects
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: right now. You see it with COVID, you see it
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: with Jan 6, you see it with Israel, you see
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: it with China, you see it with BLM, Antifa. You
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: see it and then it's bam, bam. That's all we
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: talk about is that one thing, that one thing. And
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: then you got to start getting creative to pump out
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: new content and you got to start, you know where
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: I'm going. Like eventually the facts run out or you
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: never run into the facts. So then it starts theory
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: and then conspiracy and then.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And conspiracy makes money.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: That's the issue. Goes back to what I was saying.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of people in the space chasing
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: a check and there's a lot of money in here. Okay.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I've been lucky enough in my life that I've always
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: been doing different stunts and entrepreneurial shit. And I used
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: to chase money when I was growing up. And once
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you kind of start getting some of it and doing
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: some things, I've had some successes here and there that
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: doesn't motivate you anymore. So for me, I don't really
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: give a shit. I really don't. I mean, I don't
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: want to be losing, but a lot of these people
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: that are in here, they don't have that. They don't
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: have maybe another nest to go to. And So what
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: do you got to do to make money? How do
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: you make money as an independent news creator? Two ways.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: You either sell subscriptions or you sell your soul. That's it.
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: We went the subscription route. We have people that subscribe
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: to us that pay for a little extra news. But
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the other way to do it is you sell sponsorships. Now,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: some sponsorships can be great. because they don't influence what
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: you're talking about. But a lot of it isn't. A
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: lot of it is people that are getting paid right now, Sean.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: This is a real thing, and I can show you,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: where people are being paid to talk about news. Oh yeah,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: we've seen it. We've seen it. There's a perfect example.
• 59:03
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• 59:06
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• 59:08
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  Speaker 2: influencers taking payments for different narratives.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of this in the media lately. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start domestically first. Domestic influence first. And then
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: we'll get into the foreign shit. Right on. Um, And
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  Speaker 1: I want to be clear. I've got one example that's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: going to lean more to the right, but it's on
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  Speaker 1: both sides. I'm just picking the most recent example to
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: give you. But there's a company called Influensible. Influensible. Influensible.
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  Speaker 1: And they're basically like a marketing company that goes out
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: there and tries to create noise for marketing campaigns. And
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: they're getting a lot of shit. online because they've been
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: involved in political campaigns, campaigns to drive policy and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: So this is- Influenceable. How are they reaching out to people?
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  Speaker 1: Is it email? Is it social? So I'm going to
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: show you some stuff that I pulled. This is, to
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: give you some background, X is a cesspool of a
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: lot of people who think they're, how do I say this, Sean?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: The resident X-er? Yeah, they're armchair quarterbacks that don't know shit. And,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: you know, it's funny. I listen to a lot of them.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: What's X Spaces? I'm an X Space fiend. I love
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: listening to these guys pontificate bullshit, and I'm sitting there
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: fact-checking them just as they're talking, and they're all full
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: of shit. Okay? But with that, there's this, like, rivalry
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: among some of them. They don't like, I might not
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: like you because you're taking away from my audience. There's
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of that shit.
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  Speaker 3: So.
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  Speaker 1: This came out on X. This got aired out like laundry.
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  Speaker 1: This company called Influenceable, allegedly. I want to be really clear. Allegedly. Yeah,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: if you guys are coming to sue me, allegedly. This
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: is all on X. They pushed a campaign, allegedly, that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: was trying to convince people to not allow the government
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to over-regulate and get involved in where people were buying
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: soda with, let me read it exactly. This campaign highlights
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: the dangers of government over regulation with a specific focus
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: on current efforts to restrict soda purchases through food aid programs.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: So do you remember when RFK was pushing to stop
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: using SNAP benefits to purchase the ice cream, soda, all
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: that shit. So this is actually, this is one of
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: these conservative news influencers aired out everybody's dirty laundry and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: called everybody out. I think, personally, I think he's just
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: as guilty. Called them out for what? A lot of
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: these news accounts, they were more right-leaning, started posting on X.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: I'll start giving them to you. Sorry. Read this. I'll
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: just give you both. Read both. Those are just two examples.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: All right, so you want me to read these out loud?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, why not? So this is Eric Daugherty. Important.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot allow Make America Healthy Again messaging to be
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: used to force needy Americans into not buying certain things.
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  Speaker 2: Some officials in D.C. are working on trying to prevent
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Americans on Snap from using those benefits to purchase any soda. Remember,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: when New York City Democrats tried to prevent people from
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: buying soda, In consuming soda, it backfired big time. President
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Trump literally has a Diet Coke button in his Oval Office.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Let people think and decide for themselves. Anyone can consume
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: soda and be perfectly fine in moderation. Unless we're just
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: going to ban every food with sugar in it for
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Snap Americans.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Another account. One of the most popular accounts on X.
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  Speaker 1: Not Jerome Powell. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Government overreach strikes again.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: This time it's soda's turn.
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  Speaker 2: They want to restrict soda purchases through SNAP this time.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: This is an unwarranted attempt by the government to dictate
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: what Americans can or cannot consume, which is an overextension
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: of government power and a violation of personal choice. Even
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: President Trump likes to drink his Diet Coke on a
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: daily basis. The government needs to stop overregulating what Americans
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: can or cannot do. Can I read the initial?
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: So this is from... That was the initial campaign that
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: was allegedly sent out. And this guy named Nick Sorter,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: which I've got my opinions on him I can give
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you later, but he aired all this out saying, look
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: at all these guys in my realm that are doing
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: this campaign and that are pushing the same messaging because
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: that's when RFK was talking about potentially trying to restrict
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: SNAP benefits to purchase Soda and other shit. And then
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have all these accounts. And
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: if you compare both messages, what's something that they both
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: talk about? Trump, Diet Coke. Trump, Diet Coke.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: Let me just read this real quick. So this is
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: allegedly the what? That's allegedly the pitch that was given
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to all these influencers.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: Soda bans and government overregulation.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Objective.
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  Speaker 2: This campaign highlights the dangers of government overregulation with a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: specific focus on current efforts to restrict soda purchases.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Through food aid programs.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: The narrative emphasizes how such regulation is an overreach that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: unfairly targets consumer choice, especially considering the president himself is
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: a Diet Coke enthusiast.
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  Speaker 1: Key messaging. Government overreach.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: Efforts to restrict soda purchases through SNAP. are an unwarranted
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: attempt by government to dictate what Americans can or cannot consume,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: which is an overextension of government power and a violation
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: of personal choice. Personal choice and freedom. The right to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: make personal food and drink choices should not be restricted
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: by government bureaucracy. Consumers, especially those relying on SNAP, deserve
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: autonomy in their purchasing decisions. Economic concerns. Limiting soda purchase
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: will likely harm beverage companies, retailers, and food suppliers, especially
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: those who cater to low-income Americans by relying on SNAP benefits.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Trump's preference for Diet Coke. Trump himself regularly enjoys Diet Coke,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: can be used to highlight the ridiculousness of these regulations.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: So pause for a second. The fact that those two
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: tweets are literally hitting the point on that document to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: a T. And here's the problem. None of these people disclosed.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: that they got paid, and this is the instruction.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say one more thing that I find
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: interesting here. Then it gives you key resources. These look
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: like links that you can download images or maybe some
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: sort of video. So it says key resources, and we'll
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: post this up so people can see it. Another war
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: on soda, how bureaucratic overreach threatens Trump's working class coalition.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: And then another link, Trump with Diet Coke image.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Come on, dude, two takes. And then here's the instructions
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: on how they would submit their work at the end. Oh,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: it's submittable. Okay. Well, how they go to get paid, essentially. Okay.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: If you submit posts after the campaign deadline, it will
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: still count as a missed deliverable. Missed deliverables are deducted
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: from your base pay. It is very important we have
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: all deliverables so we can utilize this in our campaign overview.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, it just has a bunch more points.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: All posts must show likes. Do not hide likes. If
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: these are hidden, you will only get paid 50% of
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: your offer. Pages must be sent to public. We cannot
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: compensate for posts on private pages. Yeah, it's all typical
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: ad campaign guidelines, basically.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: This is ad campaign guidelines. But they're pushing. These are
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: news influencers who consider themselves independent. That's not independent. You're owned.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Your own. So where are these coming in from? Are
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: these from email? I mean, I'm curious to see if we...
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: They come from email. By the way, here's the kid,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: like Eric Daughtry kid. After he got called out, he
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: admitted he got paid. That's the tweet. Eric Daughtry. This
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: is the guy. Oh, this is this dude. This is
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: the same guy. So I just read. That's how you
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: acknowledge he got paid. Yeah, that was dumb of me. Oh,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: wait a minute.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: So Nick Sorter exposes him. Exposed, influenceable. The company cutting
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: big checks to influencers on behalf of Big Soda. Over
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: the past 48 hours, several large, supposedly MAGA-aligned influencers posted
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: almost identical talking points, fed to them, convincing you MAHA
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: was a show more. It's got Clown World. It's got
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: our Eric Doherty here. And then Eric responds, yes, that
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: was dumb of me. Massive egg on my face. In
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: all seriousness, it won't happen again.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Good job. Good job, buddy. And that's just one. So
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: this is going on also. These are what these offers
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: look like. This is a guy who exposed one of
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: these offers. They offer you $ 50 to talk about. Whatever
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: the topic is. Okay.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: So this is, yeah, the name's been redacted here. Blank
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: is still under attack by the Republican establishment and the Democrats.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Another blank is a patriot and spent his career fighting
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: for America. First value is in law and order. Now
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: it's time we return the favor. Offer $ 50 deliverables. One
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: original tweet on this issue. Messaging.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Then there's a link.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Timeline ASAP by end of day Wednesday, July 26th. Submit
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: after completing the deliverables. Here's the form.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: So the thing is... You know, this is actually... I mean,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we have any of these.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think when we take another break, I'll get the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: emails from you and I'll just have our.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My people dig in. I haven't had... I want
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: to be clear. I haven't had Influenceable contact me.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: But.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: Because it looks like they're targeting people on the right. Now,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: with that being said, I just gave you one example.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: This happens on the left, too. So I don't want
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: people to think I'm just going after the right. But
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: this is happening on a large scale. And I think
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: they're really going for people that are loud and noisy
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: to their bases.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think this is a new thing.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: It's not a new thing. People don't... I think people...
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, we saw what Beyonce took a big
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: check from Kamala when supposedly she didn't during, you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: the election race. And I mean, this stuff is happening
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: all over, you know, but I don't think people realize
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: that it's happening for $ 50.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: But it's not even that, Sean. The problem is this.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Beyonce taking a check from Kamala, is it bad?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: Is it wrong?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: But is Beyonce pushing news and calling herself an independent journalist?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: So when these people who give shit all day to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: the mainstream media, which sometimes it's rightfully deserved, and claim
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: to be the new media and are fighting the corrupt
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: bullshit from the mainstream media, are then selling their asses
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: for a couple hundred dollars. Yeah. What are they?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: They're just as bad. Yeah. If not, I would say
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: even worse. And you know what makes me wonder? Can
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: you imagine maybe, and I don't have proof, but has
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: the mainstream media been getting offers like this for a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: long time? Maybe from Big Pharma? Maybe from other companies? Yeah.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: You know? I don't know. I mean, I think it's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: pretty obvious. Yeah, yeah. But my point is this is
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: what's happening, and there's influence that's being bought. And a
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: lot of people in this space are just chasing the check.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: I was telling your producer, I'm in a position where
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I don't have to chase a check. That's rare, I think,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: in this field because it's hard to make money, dude.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: It's not easy. I mean, starting a news outlet, a
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: lot of people might think we get paid from Instagram.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I haven't gotten a cent. Instagram doesn't pay me shit.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I only get paid if people go subscribe to us.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Those people are taking the deals because they don't have subscribers.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: And I get it. They got to make money. What
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: do you get?
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious. I have not checked out your website.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I should have checked that out. I see you on
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: the gram. Whoever's behind there, I message back and forth
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: with them. I hope that's you. We shoot the shit, yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I'm just curious. What do your subscribers get?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: They're essentially paying for double the noose. Okay. So what
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: we tell people is this, like, look, we can't do
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: this for free. I have people to pay. And, you know,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: so I have to give them something. So what I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: give them is a little more noose as a thank you. Gotcha. But,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: you know, Sean, my goal is one day, I hope
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: that I can get this to a level, and I
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: haven't figured out how I would fund it. but I
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: don't think people should have to pay for news. Just
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: contrary to what I'm doing right now. I think information
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: should be as openly available as possible, but I'm in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: a position right now where without the subscription. I got
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: a great idea. I've heard Israel and Qatar paying $ 7, 000
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: a post to talk about whatever bullshit they want in
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: the media right now. Yeah. It's, uh, I, I'd be
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: the first one to tell you I haven't gotten an
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: offer from Israel. And China. We're going to get into that, yeah.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: And Russia.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: So the thing is, is this. And the Democrats. They're
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: all doing it. And you know, the thing is, is this, Sean,
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: this isn't a regulated space. And listen, I'm one of
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: the first people to tell you, I hate when the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: government comes in and starts fucking with things. Okay. Because
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I have this view that usually when they try to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: help you, While they're helping you, they're stabbing you in
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the neck and something else is going to happen. The
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: question is, how are we going to regulate this? And I've, listen,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of nights, man, I go out
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: every night, I sit in my jacuzzi and just look
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: up at the stars and think about the world. I've
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: spent so many days trying to figure out how do
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: we fix this without them going overboard. Well, let's go
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: through the rest of the... Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Let's go through the rest of the influence, and then
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: we'll come up with the... Let's get into some foreign stuff,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: some foreign influence. Dude, this is really bothering me, this
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: foreign influence shit.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: It's bad.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: With Middle Eastern countries, Israel, Qatar, Saudi, China, Russia, like.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Everybody. They're weaponizing... What is going on?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: What is going on?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: today I'm coming here and part of the thing we're
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: going to talk about, I have been contacted by foreign governments,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: either directly or indirectly, to do news stories in their
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: countries or to post news like how those guys were, right?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: But either about topics in their countries or them just
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: wanting to for us to go to their country and
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: show something to our audience. Oh, yeah, we've had that, too.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: We've had, yeah, see, I'm sure you have.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: You know what's interesting, though, is I'm just, we tried
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: to get the PM of Qatar.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Really hard.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: Like, we were talking to him, we were in there,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: they weren't going to pay us shit, I wouldn't take.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: Payment anyways, but.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't let us fucking do it. We tried to
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: sync it up with when we went to Taiwan. We
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: thought it would be a great pit stop on the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: way home, hit Qatar, but they didn't go for it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Why? Do they tell you why? Or they just didn't respond?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. It was, you know, it was. So
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: we've had foreign governments literally reach out to us. Like,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: when I say reach out to us, there's one I'm
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: going to show you an example of today, and then
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: there's one that we'll get into. This was a DM
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: we got on Instagram. from the UK government. Do you
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: mind if I read it? Read the whole thing. UK
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: Home Office. Hi, team. Hope you're well.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: The Home Office are currently looking to partner with trusted
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: outlets and pages such as yourselves to increase awareness around
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: the vital work the government and law enforcement are undertaking
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: to keep the public safe from crime.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: This is the UK.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: As a result, We're looking to explore new collaborative opportunities
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: to create authentic digital content with partners. If you feel appropriate,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: it would be great to discuss this in further detail
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: over email or call you or call if you're able
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: to provide the best point of contact. Many thanks, Fatma,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: social media team and home office.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: So that was a DM, right? And I couldn't believe it.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: How brazy that was. I'm like, they literally DM'd me
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: off of the UK Home Office's Instagram. That's crazy. So
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: I told Trey, who works for me, I said, Trey,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I can't believe this. Just entertain it. Get it in
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: an email. I want to know more. So Trey, being
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: the wizard he is, right, he starts contacting her, and
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: we got her to an email. This is her. gov. uk email.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to read this shit.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: UK, where people are getting their heads cut off with
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: steak knives on bridges.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, Trey. Hi, Trey.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: This is Fab Mom following up on the chat on Instagram.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: You've asked for more information on what our collab could
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: look like. We basically work in different policy areas with
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: topic you might be interested in talking about. These include
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: crime and policing, migration, homeland security, and tackling violence against
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: women and girls. Oh, because that one, this must have
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: been right after that one So pause.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: This is the biggest issues in the UK right now
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: that people are pissed about, that there's a lot of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: division over. Migration, illegal migration, violence against women. Those protests
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: have been all cooking over this. And also the crime.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: So what's interesting is this woman Let me, can I
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: finish reading this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: I've outlined below what we would be able to give
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: you access to and more broadly what working together could
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: look like. Ministerial access, exclusive interviews and sit-downs with our ministers,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: exclusive clips, home office, digital lobby. Offer you embargoed press notices,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: operational footage, exclusive digital clips. a chance to cover a
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: home office breaking story as news breaks, access to trusted voices.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: We could potentially look at setting up exclusive interviews with
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: trusted voices. We regularly take media on operational opportunities to
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: cover a breaking story. For example, this includes immigration enforcement raids,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: illegal working, police raids, case studies.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: And influencers.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Offer access to influencers we work with in our policy
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: areas or be a part of our work with them.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Offer access to case studies. This also is a non...
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: This is also not an exhaustive list. We're always looking
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: for new opportunities to collaborate. Let me know if you
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: have any questions. Do they offer you any money?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: We didn't get that far. That was the last email.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: I just wanted it on email. Okay, but... my brother
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: who works for me, and I don't know, they said
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: that they have a screen, they could put it up.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: He did some digging. So it turns out that lady, Fatima,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: works for a migration organization that promotes people migrating. And
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: she wants, I don't know if, do you have a screen?
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Is that a thing? Yeah, they'll throw it up. I
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: could find it, but. Essentially, I actually, I'd like to
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: read it to you. So she, she works for a
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: company apparently called Migration Jam. And Migration Jam is a
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: migrant led collective utilizing the power of ethical storytelling and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: intercommunical dialogue to counter the mainstream negative narratives about migrants
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: and refugees. She also works for the UK government. Okay.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: That's her. That is on Google. You can go look
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: her up. And it says that she's a Yemeni entrepreneur, whatever.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: My point is this. She's contacting us to potentially go
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: to the UK to do a story.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Some people might not have a concern about that. I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: think that's morally wrong for a foreign government, whether it's
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: an ally or an adversary. to reach out to a
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: news outlet and not only say, we want you to
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: come here and do a story, but here's the topics
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: we think you should talk about, which are the big
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: issues right now in the UK that are being talked
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: about in the US right now. You have to ask yourself,
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: why would the UK want to target an Instagram account
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: that's US based, that has almost 1.6 million followers, To
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: talk about the UK's problems.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: It is interesting, isn't it? Why do they give a
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: shit about the narrative? I mean, are those, you know,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: maybe a little out of scope here, but I mean,
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: I don't see much pushback from the citizens of UK.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Do you? I have. There's been protests. Have you seen
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: the protests? I did see one protest. I can't remember
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: what it was about. There's people getting pissed off there.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, we had this guy, this totally, uh, I
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say it's irrelevant, but just an example. We had
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: this guy, Jay Cowan. They are basically, he was an
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: SAS guy over there. They're like charging him with fucking
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: murder or some shit like that from like past war crimes.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: Ridiculous.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: We met him in Dubai and, um, and got his
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: story out. And, and the, the, I mean, they're railroading
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: these guys. They're basically, you know, so basically here's the
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: gist of it. Obviously the, uh, Muslim demographic in UK has,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: has risen exponentially.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Correct. True. I think everybody pretty much knows that. True.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: You know, now what's happening is they are, they are
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: trying their military members and, and more specifically their special
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: operations guys for war crimes. against Muslims, but it's just
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: the shit that they asked their guys to do, and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: now they're prosecuting them, or they're trying to prosecute them.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: For orders they were given? Yes, yes. And you know what?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: So we did this, and this has happened in all
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: kinds of guys. None of these guys want to fucking
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: speak up. To be honest with you, I almost didn't
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: do this interview because these guys don't want to talk.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: So we had to have a long talk with Jake,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: And say, hey, like, you're going to have to, like,
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: get articulate here and be specific on what's going on.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: None of this, you know, vagueness. And he promised we
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: would do it. So he did it. You know, I
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: have not seen one fucking SAS guy stand up for
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: this dude. Not fucking one. And I've talked to several
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: of them, and they all tell me, Oh yeah, that's
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: fucked up what's going on. I can't believe this shit.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: This is happening to everybody. So it's not like he's like,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: you know, a turd and nobody wants to help him.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: They are too fucking scared to speak up for their
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: own rights and their own freedom. It's, it's, it's in these,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: in these fucking pains me to say that these are the,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: these are the most bad-ass people that the UK has
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: to offer. It's their SBS SAS and they'll DM you
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: and they'll tell you how fucked up it is that
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: they're doing it, what they're doing to Jay.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: But they won't say a fucking word in public. Yeah.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: So what, I mean, what hope do they have? And
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: these are fucking tier one operators scared to back their
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: own fucking guy. They're, you know what their motto is?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: He who dares wins.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: What a fucking joke that is.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: It's that powerful.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: The institution there is that powerful.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: And I mean, look, I, personally me if.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Not one fucking guy yeah not one fucking guy came
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: out and spoke on his behalf said anything nothing not
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: a fucking peep so what hope do they have tells
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: you how fucked it is none i have no hope
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: yeah what are they gonna do the most violent, badass
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: individuals that you have in your entire country are too
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: fucking scared to speak up for their own.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: What? That's not how you create change.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: It's sad. Sorry to interrupt. No, no, no. It's good
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: that you said that. But like, so this is, some
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 1: people might watch this and say, well, this is an
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: ally that's just wanting to do this. I don't give
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: a fuck. This is totally unacceptable. Let me tell you something.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: If it's okay for them to do it, is it
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: okay for China to do it? Is it okay for
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: Russia to do it? Is it okay for Qatar to
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: do it? Is it okay for Israel to do it?
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: Why do you think, I mean, just UK specifically, why
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: do you think they give a shit? I mean, their
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: citizens aren't rising up. Maybe they did a protest.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: There's, I wouldn't say they're rising up, but there is
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: definitely right now a wave being created because there are
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: some people that are pissed off and there are some
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: protests that are getting bigger. And there's a big push
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: around Nigel Farage. That'd be an interesting person for you
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: to talk to, actually. There's people in the UK that
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: aren't happy. People are getting locked up. Have you heard about...
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm not well-versed in it, but this is big
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: online debate that the UK is now arresting people for speech. Oh, yeah.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: I've seen... There was a comedian that got arrested and
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: tied up in it. And Joe Rogan was speaking pretty
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: passionately about it. I think what they're arresting them for
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: is inciting violence. I think that's the terminology. That's dangerous.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: That's a dangerous road you're going down.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: And....
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Going back to that email, it's very interesting how they
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: were very specific about certain topics that are big issues
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: in the UK right now, and they want to portray
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: it to Americans. The question is, like you said, why
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: do they want Americans to know? Why do they care?
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: Why do they care what we think? Interesting. There's been
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: people in the US that have been openly talking about
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: the problems in the UK. Elon Musk has brought it up.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: couple times. Donald Trump's been asked about it with Keir Starmer,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: the prime minister, next to him, and he says, well,
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: we'll have to look into that, or I hope that's
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: not true, or, you know. So it's coming up. So
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: I would assume they're trying to somehow control the narrative
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: in the U.S. to pipe it down, maybe, or to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: show that it's not as bad as it's being portrayed,
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: or I don't know.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: What do you think the motivation is, though? I mean,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: they have no problem talking shit about the U.S., Pretty
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: much nonstop. I mean, you go to Europe, they all
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: fucking hate us. You know, not all of them, but
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of them, you know, they can't stand us.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: So what do they give a shit?
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: Your, your guess is as good as mine. I mean,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you what I, cause I
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: don't know. And maybe, maybe she can come on and
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: tell you. It'd be great if they'd show up. Well,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: we've got her email now. Yeah. Now ask her. And
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: this is going to start a lot of shit, man.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: I haven't been to London yet. I wanted to go
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: to London and walk around. That's gone, you know, but,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why. But take that example,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: and let me give you some others that I've dealt with, too. Oh,
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear this. Now, these ones I can't
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: show you, and I'll explain to you why. This was
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: a direct reach-out by the UK government. At the end
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: of her email, she says, I can't share it. If
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: she wants to sue me, let's go. If the UK
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: government's going to sue me, that's a badge of honor
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: for me. Okay? So fuck it. Come get me. The
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: other ones that we've had reach out to us, they come...
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: not through the government directly. But what they do is
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: they use U.S.-based influencer marketing companies. Like, for example, Influensible.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying, I want to be really clear, I'm
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: not saying that that's happening with them, but a company
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: like that, that has these online campaigns, this is going
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: to blow your mind. Last, around December of last year,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: We got contacted by a US-based influence marketing company that
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: offered us $ 25, 000 and the potential to make up to $ 40, 000
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: to do a story. First, they said it's in a country,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: very broad. They said it would be- We're in a country? Yeah,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: no shit. Yeah. It's a story in a foreign country.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: You would get $ 25, 000 to go. They cover your flights.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: There was a stipend related to hotels. And the topics
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: that were going to be discussed, you would talk about
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: infrastructure of this place. You would talk about daily life.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: And you would talk about just the history of where
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: you were going. I said, sounds interesting, $ 25, 000. Where the
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: fuck is this? You have to sign this NDA. You
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: have to sign an NDA before they even- That's how
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: these guys, well, you sign two NDAs. The first NDA
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: you sign is to even talk to them, okay? Because
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: they don't want to be exposed. And then they say,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: if you're interested in this, we'd have to disclose to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: you some information, sign this too. So I signed two.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to break one of them here but I
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: can't break who the US-based company is because I know
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: they'll sue me. We got contacted by the Communist Youth
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: League of China. The Communist Youth League of China. Yes.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: That's what we were told who they were. Okay. Now,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: what is that? It's very interesting. And to this day, Sean,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't even make sense to me because how I
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: understand what the Communist Youth League of China is, is
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: it's a It's like a incubator to create new Chinese
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: leaders in China. So it's very bizarre to me that
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: that's who they said this was for. But this influence
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: marketing company said, long story short, we want you to
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: go to China, specific city. I can't even pronounce it right.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: It's like Chongqing, China. Okay. Go there and you're going
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: to talk about infrastructure. You're going to talk about daily
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: life in China. and you're going to give some history
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: about China. $ 25, 000 to go, up to $ 40, 000 based on
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: the views that you generate from your content. So here's
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: the thing. Two things. I would never go to China
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: because you said you followed us during COVID. You probably
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: remember we were posting all the videos out of China
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: when they were locking people down. I have a feeling
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: if I arrived in China, the second I get off
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: that plane, I'm going to be in some shit. Seriously.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: And I'm confident that they've This is a great ransom
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: tool also, by the way. It would be a great scam.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: If you can get fucking influencers to do this shit
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: for 50 bucks like that one email I just.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: Read, I mean... 25,000? Great way of human trafficking. Done. Easy,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: easy lure. Exactly. So... And like I told you, I'm
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: not motivated by money, but this was so mind-blowing to me,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know more. So I entertained it a
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: little bit. And what they... It came down to the
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: point where this marketing agency that's based in the US
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: was like, you guys need to make a move on
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: this now because there's a lot of people that are
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: getting this offer and you either go or you don't.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: And I said, no, fuck you. I'm not doing this.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody that's watching this, go on Instagram right now and
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: type in Chongqing China.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Do you know how to spell it? I don't, but
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 2: I think I have it saved in my notes. Yeah,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: I realize why you can't just say it, but it is.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: It is. Just type it in and you see it
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 2: right off. You see it right off the bat.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: There are shitloads, Sean, of videos talking about the infrastructure
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: in Chongqing, China, or however the fuck you say it.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear. This is from
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: my lawyer. I can't prove these people took that deal.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: But everything a lot of them talk about is what
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: I was told to talk about. And it makes me wonder...
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: there's a couple questions to that. Why does the Chinese
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: government want people in America to know about a city?
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Why do they want people to know about the Chinese infrastructure?
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Why do they want people to know about daily life
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: in this city? Your guess is as good as mine, but...
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: They need Chinese sympathizers inside this country. That's why. Or
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: are they trying to tell people that what you've been
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: told about China and America is not true? For example,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: something that I noticed, like we have on our Instagram,
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: our comment section is pretty notorious. I don't know if
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: you ever read our comments, but they're fucking hilarious. Great.
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: Shout out to the comment section. But there are, sometimes
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: when we're talking about China, something that I constantly see,
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: and I'm not going saying it's true or not true,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: is people will downplay China's advancements. That Chinese jet is shit.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: It's a copy of an American one, or they make shit,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: or this and that. And I've been thinking about this.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: Why did they want this? And maybe what they're trying
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: to do is they're trying to get at that narrative
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: that everything in China is just a rip off of
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: the US and it's shit. China makes shitty products. And
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: these videos of this city will blow your mind. I
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: don't know any American city that looks like it. They
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: got fucking, one of the guys, they got fucking trains
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: going through buildings and roads are moving and the infrastructure
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: looks crazy.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Don't know what, but I don't know the, the reason
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: why they want that, why they want Americans to see that.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: And what scares me more, Sean, I've given you two
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: examples of foreign governments coming to me either directly or indirectly.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: What else are they doing? What else are they doing
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: to other news influencers? What are they pushing? There was
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: another perfect example, Tenet Media. Did you ever hear about that? No,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. Just to synopsize it really quick,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: under Biden's DOJ, they busted this company that was paying
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: influencers to push pro-Russian talking points about the war in Ukraine.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Paying people millions of dollars. Millions. But same thing, what
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: did Russia do? Did Russia go straight to the influencer? No.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: They used these US-based brokers that are the in-between And
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: I think the case is still going on. The chick
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: who's in it, she's fucked. And she was in on it, allegedly.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, she hasn't been proven yet. And they were
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: paying these influencers millions of dollars. Now, to these influencers,
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: like Tim Pool was named in it. Benny Johnson was
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: tied up in it. Oh, I do remember this now.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I do remember this. So listen, though. To their argument,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: they're saying, well, we didn't know that the Russian government
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: was doing this to us. Mm-hmm. If you believe that,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: which maybe that's true, maybe it's not true, it could
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: make sense that they wouldn't know because why would the Russian,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: you were in the CIA, why would the Russian government
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: want influencers to know that they're being paid by them
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: to talk shit on Ukraine? These guys are already so loud.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: They can't keep their mouth shut, right? So I actually
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: would maybe believe it, that they had no idea. And
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: none of them were actually charged under Biden's DOJ. Yep.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: So there's that. There's also, there's talk. I haven't seen
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: it directly to me yet. There's a lot of in
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: the news that Israel is paying influencers. I do know
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: that it's a fact that one of Donald Trump's former
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: campaign advisors is listed now as a foreign agent on FARA.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: And he is working with Israel to, and this is all, oh,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: you can Google it and read about it, to change
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the narrative about Israel online. And they're paying influencers. Now,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: there's talk it's $ 7, 000. You've probably heard it. I haven't
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: seen the $ 7, 000. I would be happy to show you
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: today if I got it. But I do know that
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: they're paying influencers to push back on rhetoric related to
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: the war in Gaza and Israel's image. And this gets
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: to really the crux of the problem. This shouldn't be allowed. Okay?
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: And it gets back to what I was saying. If
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: the rise of independent media is supposed to not be
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: what the mainstream media is, then we're all doing an
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: awful job. Because I would argue, Sean, that this is worse.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: And what scares me is that You know, look, the
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: only way this country is going to fall is one
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: of two ways, okay? Whether they're going to fall because
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: of a nuclear apocalypse that's going to kill us all
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: or from within. Mm-hmm. And if these people can weaponize, influence,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: and create division, right, and are trying to shift narratives
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: and opinions, that could be very easily weaponized against you
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: and me. Oh, we're already falling, man. I make no
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: mistake about it. I hate to say that because you
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: know how sad that is. It's fucking horrible because we
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: are the only light in the world that represents any
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: freedom at all. Really, we're not even that free, but
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: we're freer than everybody else in the world, right? I
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: think these people are lighting that fire faster.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: If we go, you know, I don't think that the,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: Who's pulling the strings on all this shit. I've got
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: some ideas.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's a group that is a group of
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: different foreign foreign governments uh not necessarily convoluting with each
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: other all for their you know for their specific purposes
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: but you know they they are dividing you know every
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: way they can and our we're doing it ourselves too
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: i mean the right and the left are doing a
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 2: great job of dividing this fucking country that's obvious uh
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: we don't even really need the foreign influence but you
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: know what people don't understand that i don't think is
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 2: you know that Nobody's coming in here. Nobody's coming in
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: here to conquer us. Nobody's coming in here to save us.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 2: Maybe the cartels, you know what I mean? Or maybe,
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: you know, spies here and there, but it's not gonna
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: be like a invasion or something like that. But the
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: purpose of dividing us, I mean, we're seeing obviously a
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: huge rise in political violence. But if this kicks off,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: let's say we go into a civil war or something,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: This will make the shit that I've seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: all over.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: The Middle East, it'll look like child's play.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: There are so many fucking guns in this country.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: So many people that are trained how to use them,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: stockpiling ammunition, stockpiling.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Weapons, stockpiling... Yeah. There are more guns here than anywhere
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: else in the world. That people? And people that know
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: how to use them. Yeah.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: If you can divide this country enough just to get
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: people at each other in a violent, like an actual violent,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about this bullshit BLM, Antifa, you know, shit,
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: which was horrible.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: But if you, like, if you can pit everybody against
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: each other, this will be the most dangerous place in
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: the world by a long shot. There isn't even a
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: government that could infiltrate it because it will become so
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: fucking dangerous.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: Why do you think... And we.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: Will just have to live in it, and then we
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: will be... People won't even have to think about America.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: We'll have so many issues killing each other, record numbers.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just... Why do you think that? Because
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's a multitude of things that are dividing us. It's...
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: The government, it's our lawmakers, it's the media. But why
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: do you think that our lawmakers are still doing it
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: if they know this? We're not geniuses. We're sitting here
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: and we're just looking at it, right? The rhetoric.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of these lawmakers aren't that fucking smart.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people give them
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: a lot more credit than they do. But I mean,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: there are some... Special ones. they're just not that sharp.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: They're not that sharp. And some of the ones that
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: I see getting in there, especially the younger ones, I
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: think that they are selected because they are very easy
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: to manipulate. You won't even realize they're being manipulated.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's funny, the reason why I pulled this out,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: I printed out some news articles for you where the media,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: both independent and the old school mainstream media, are dividing
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: this country, and I wanted to read you these titles.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: This is from Fox News. This is the title, not
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: an opinion piece. Liberal journalists, Democrats bitterly seek to discredit
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: Trump's Bronx rally. Call it fake and made up. Okay, whatever.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Let's read this. Here's an article from CNN. Excuse me,
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 1: this is MSNBC. Trump is threatening to declare war on
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: the American people. There, that's that title. Okay. It's better.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: You mean the only thing that people actually read?
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: That headline. So listen, listen. This is, I believe this
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: is CNN. Yeah, it's CNN. The U.S. economy has a
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: new problem. Democracy is under siege. And this goes to show, like,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? What are you trying
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: to do? People read that and they. That's all they read. Right,
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: because they get stuck in their echo chambers. I would
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: bet the.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: Vast majority of people in this country do not read
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: past the headline.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe a few sentences. They all lie. This is something
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: I wanted to show you, too. This is actually great.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when Joe Rogan went on.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: During COVID and CNN aired his face.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about the ivermectin thing where they like
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: made his face yellow.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: And this is literally, and you know, to this day,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: they deny that they did it. I know, I know.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: They still deny, but like, this is my, this is
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: my point. And this, this kind of all correlates to
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: each other. They have so much influence over all of
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: us and a picture, a title, a color can influence somebody.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: I even recognize for myself, I can influence my audience
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: very easily. I think what makes me different from a
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: lot of other people is I'm level-headed and I'm sick
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: of it all. I hate to use the word hate, Sean.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: I'm sick of the left and I'm sick of the
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: right because I see through it all. I have this analogy.
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: I tell people, you know, every four years we– elect
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: a new government, right? Essentially, we get a new president.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: And then some new lawmakers come in and the House
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: will either go Democrat or Republican. I want you to
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: picture a car rolling down a road. Every four years,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: we pick who drives to the left or the right.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: There's only two types of people that can drive the car.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: We elect somebody to the left with a left government.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: The car is still going to go down that road.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: but it's gonna lean a little to the left. If
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: we elect somebody on the right, car's gonna still stay
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: down that road, but it's gonna lean a little to
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: the right. The reality is that no matter who's in office,
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: the status quo continues. People in this country are hungry
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: for change, Sean. Oh yeah. I mean, we're talking about
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: foreign influence. I mean, have you seen, That APAC advertisement? Yeah.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: Pull that shit up. It's pinned to the top of
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: their X profile. You think that's helping anybody?
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I know. It's crazy. All of this shit.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: We'll overlay it on the screen right now. Yeah. It's...
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: My point, though... That's fucking propaganda right there.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: But the thing is, and now, so listen, you're going
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: to get shit for that right now. I don't care. No,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: but so listen, you're going to get shit because now
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: people are going to say you're anti-Israel. But the thing is,
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: it's not just Israel. It's everybody. They're all doing it.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: But what they do is they hound in on the
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: one person talking about one. Okay? I'm at the point
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: where it's fuck them all. None of them should be
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: able to do this. This isn't right. And the question is,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: how do we How do we regulate this? What do
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: we do? And listen, I told you, I'm not one
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: for new laws and regulating press. And trust me, I
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: don't want that. Because every time we try to do something,
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: we end up usually going too far. But this shit
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: can't continue. The influence can't continue. And our founding fathers, geniuses,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: when they found this country, the Constitution, amazing to think
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: of that back then. The problem is they didn't think
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: about fucking meta. They didn't know Instagram. They didn't know
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: how it could be weaponized. They were thinking in the moment.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: And the problem is we're so fucking divided now that
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: there's no way that I see that we can address
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: all these things without.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: I think about this all the time. The only conclusion
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: that I've come to is you have to just lead
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: by example. You have to show that you can have
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: a fucking conversation with somebody that you disagree with and
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: it can be a cordial, nice conversation.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I have a perfect example of this.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: I brought Gavin Newsom on what about two or three
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: months ago, got obliterated by my audience. They were so
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 2: fucking angry that I had him on.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: Right. I don't agree.
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with much of anything that that guy says,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: but we had a nice cordial con conversation. It was
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: a great experience. And when I took that interview, I
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: wanted to show, hey, we don't have to fucking hate
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: each other just because we disagree on everything. I think
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of the things that I've seen going on
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: in California, if you.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: Live there, I don't go there.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: But I think that a lot of the things that
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: have happened there are disgusting. But I wanted to show
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: that I can have a conversation with somebody that I
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: don't agree with and I don't have to hate them
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: the entire time. You know what fucking came of this?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: We had an awesome discussion about psychedelic therapy and what
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 2: it's doing for veterans. Traumatic brain injury, PTSD, addiction, all
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: this stuff. We had a great discussion about that on
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: the show yesterday. Gavin Newsom just signed a fucking bill saying,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: in California that is pro-psychedelic therapy. I literally just saw
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: it right before I came down here for the interview
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: between me and you. I haven't even read the whole
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: thing yet, but I texted him and I said, man,
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: you know, this is really good to see.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you. And he said, big part of that was
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: that discussion we had on your podcast. You know what
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: And so that's, what I'm what I'm saying here is
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: you have to lead by example because we can't penalize
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 2: people that that's an infringement on free speech. That's an
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: infringement on capitalistic society. You know, all you can do
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: is be the person to set the example. And that's
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: what I wanted to do with that interview is set
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: an example. And look, I set an example. Everybody fucking
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: hated me for it, but look, now there's policy that's happening.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 2: That's benefiting people. People that are struggling with traumatic brain injury, PTSD,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: are veterans, rape victims, addicts. Addiction is obviously a fucking
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: massive problem in California right now. I think that's the
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: only way to solve the opioid, fentanyl, heroin epidemic is
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: through psychedelics.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: And look, it's.
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: Coming to fruition three months later after two people that
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: are a complete opposite sides of the spectrum have a
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 2: discussion and he's implementing that in his state. That is
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: fucking cool. That's how you fucking make change.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and all those people giving you shit, you know what?
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: I would tend to argue they're stuck in those echo chambers. Exactly.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: And that's the problem. And you know what? Get out.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Go listen to something else. Go challenge your thoughts. Because
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: if you get stuck in these chambers, you're just festering
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: in the shit, and you might miss something. Also, too,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: it goes back to what I said. We've got to
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: get back to the place where we're treating Americans like
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: Americans again. You might not agree with Gavin Newsom, right?
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: But guess what? You were able to sit here and
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: talk to him as a neighbor. And we got to
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: get back to that. We have to, because if we don't,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's going to get nasty. And it's
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: the conversation nobody wants to have, but it's true. Like,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: we can't allow this to keep cooking.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have any ideas? I've had one idea,
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: but it goes more into how do we break this
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: two-party system of bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: Attraction is better than promotion.
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  Speaker 1: I've had one idea, and it could work, but then
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: I see issues coming after that. I think we need
• 1:57:25
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't agree with them. I don't see that happening. But...
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  Speaker 1: They don't have to come as a complete surprise. Like, Sean...
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• 1:57:42
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• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: to compromise. Well, I'm with you here. And if we
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  Speaker 1: as just Americans, not as red, not as blue, as red, white,
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  Speaker 1: worked under the common goal of just making things better
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  Speaker 1: and finding that middle ground and treating each other like
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: human beings, not as enemies, which both sides do. That's
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: the only thing I could see fixing it. But then
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: the next issue is, Well, now you have Congress and
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: the Senate is controlled by Republicans and Democrats. All it
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: takes is a bunch of them to agree on something
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: and impeach your ass. And something I find interesting is they,
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: both sides will unify on things. Like right now, a
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: couple of things. Where's the stock trading been? Why haven't
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: we had that? Oh, well, I think we all know
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: why we don't have that. You know why. It's because
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: it goes back to my thing. They're two sides of
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: the same coin. How long have we been hearing that
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: someone was going to take care of our debt? We're
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: $ 37 fucking trillion in debt, Sean. Does it even matter anymore?
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, fuck it. They're just going. It's the constant shit,
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: and it never changes. And every four years, we hear
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: something else. Most recently, the most disappointing thing that I've
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: seen from my audience right now, where they are disappointed,
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: this whole Epstein file thing. Fuck, you had Kash Patel
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: sitting in this chair?
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: Are we still talking about Jeffrey Epstein?
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: Remember that? A hoax.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still fucking talking about it. What do you
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: think about that? I have an interesting take, but I
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: want to hear yours.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: What do I think? I think a lot of things.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: Why do you think right now they're not? I mean,
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 1: you don't have to be a Democrat or Republican to
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: reveal that they're not being transparent.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 2: I think they have botched this so bad that unless
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 2: it aligns with the wildest conspiracy theory out there, nobody's
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: going to fucking believe it.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: Why haven't you just released it? Just release it. Just
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: fucking release it. Like, what was the last thing that
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: DOJ is not going to listen to Maxwell at all
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: or they're not even going to, like, I've heard all
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: kinds of things.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: Look, our government's been lying to us for decades, man,
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: about everything. And it's like the boy that cried wolf.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: You lie once, lie twice, lie three times. Eventually, you
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: start not believing somebody. And they've done this to themselves.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: We DMed about this recently. You had a comment on
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: my page. You said that this is decades of the
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: government lying. I think what's happened with this whole Epstein thing,
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: I think there are parts of it that are true.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: I don't doubt that he trafficked women and there are
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: people involved. Not even women, girls, teenagers, disgusting shit. But
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: I often wonder, has the theories that are out there,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: have some of them been cooked up by... Maybe a
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: foreign government that wants to sow more distrust. It's definitely possible.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: And the government. And then the question is this. We're
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 1: all expecting all these big names to be in it.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: And what if our expectations are here? And what's actually
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: there is here. And if they release it now, are
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 1: you going to believe it? No, I'm not. I don't
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: know anybody that would believe me.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: They totally fucked it up.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: They botched it so fucking bad from the very beginning
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: when the influencers went to the White House holding up
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 2: the binders like it's some type of a trophy.
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  Speaker 1: Like, look at me.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: I'm in with the administration. Well, buddy, the administration just
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 2: discredited your entire fucking career.
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 1: Good job.
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: And, you know, but not only that, then it was,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 2: then it was, You know, the comments, are we still
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: talking about Jeffrey Epstein? Yes, we are still talking about
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein because you ran half your fucking campaign off
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: getting these files released. Of course, we're still talking about
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. You know, then, you know, fast forward. Then
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: there was the footage. They released the footage. But, oh,
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: there's a blip. And it's like, dude, are you fucking serious?
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: Are you shitting me? You're going to release footage with
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: its missing fucking time?
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy? This goes back to, remember
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: I told you about the Russian saying that he was
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: concerned for me and he was talking about my reality
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 1: in a different way. I often wonder, this is the
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 1: stuff he was talking about, this kind of shit. This
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: is the kind of shit we're told that happens in
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: Russia where there's minutes missing or people falling out of
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: windows and people dying and all this crazy shit. And
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: it's right in front of us. Like, you're right. We're
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: missing a minute. This guy gets allegedly commit suicide in
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 1: a maximum security prison. They don't have the first, I
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: thought at one point we didn't even have tapes. Tapes
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: aren't showing up, but now like there's so many issues.
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 1: The Bureau of Prisons report that they released is contradicting
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: itself now based on the video that we've now seen.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, like And even to this day, you know,
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: the thing that really drives me nuts is like, we had,
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: we have people in the FBI now that previously talked
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 1: about getting to the bottom of this and being transparent
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: and being real. You had Kash Patel sit here. Oh,
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm very aware. And like, look what they're saying.
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: It goes back to the same thing. It's like, man, dude,
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: This is, and you know what's crazy too, is the
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: Democrats are riding this. They're saying, look, we want the
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: Epstein files. You know what? And the question to them is,
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 1: where were you four years ago? You guys were in charge. Yeah.
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: You know? But the shitty part is, Sean, now it's
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: being weaponized on all sides. Oh, yeah, yeah. Nobody wants
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: to figure it out. And here's the reality. There's a
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 1: bunch of young children, teenagers, that got tied up into
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: this shit. And it's now just being used as political points.
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 1: and baggage when people just.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: Are mysteriously dying now too i mean one just got
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 2: smacked with a bus one of the victims right just
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: got smacked killed with a.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 1: Bus yeah and it's i mean like what the fuck.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 2: So you know i think at the court nobody's going
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: to believe it unless that's why i said nobody that's
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: why they're screwed unless it aligns with the wildest conspiracy
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 2: out there but i mean the I don't know.
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: What do you think it was? I look at it.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 2: I've interviewed Nick Bryan a couple of times. I've talked
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: to Buck Sexton about it.
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: The biggest thing that I see on the internet is
• 2:05:07
  Speaker 1: that people are saying that Epstein had ties to the
• 2:05:11
  Speaker 1: Mossad and all this shit. Looks pretty likely. I've often wondered,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm not doubting that, but I've often asked myself,
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 1: is this even bigger than that? And you know this,
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: you were in the CIA. The CIA cannot target American citizens, right?
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: You're not allowed to touch Americans, whether it's gaining intelligence
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: on them or whatever. It has to go through with
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: other agencies and there's a whole process. I've often asked
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: myself if maybe this was a broader operation between a
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 1: bunch of foreign intelligence agencies, maybe like the Five Eyes,
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: for example, something like that. where a bunch of Intel
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: agencies were working together, maybe to unfortunately compromise lawmakers in
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: their countries and abroad, so that that could be used
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: as weight to get people to vote a certain way
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 1: or approve funding for certain programs. And so a US
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 1: agency can't touch a US lawmaker, but one from the
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 1: UK can. I mean, Israel can't, I've thought that, I've thought.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: This is such a thorn in this administration's side that
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 2: if it was.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: It's not going away.
• 2:06:28
  Speaker 2: If it was kind of what you're saying, you know,
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 2: what if it was down here? You know, what if
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: everybody's expecting this?
• 2:06:35
  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know. I could see that.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: But at the other hand, it's like, this is such,
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 2: this has become such a problem. I think it's jeopardized
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: the midterms. I think it'll jeopardize the next election for
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: the Republican.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: I think that this could. I think the Republican Party
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 2: will pay dearly for how this has been handled. But,
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: you know, there is a way to make it right.
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 2: Just fucking release them. And if it's not that bad,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 2: just fucking release it.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 1: You gotta wonder what it is. It's gotta be so
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: bad that they're willing to literally... I mean, like, I
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: watched Kash Patel at that FBI hearing. I thought to myself,
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: what did he say to himself when he got home
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: that night and closed the door? Cause he, I mean,
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 1: fuck dude, he's just sitting there just. And the thing
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 1: is it's, he was acting the same way as the
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: previous directors and how they were all deceiving. And they just,
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 1: you know, they don't even answer questions and they just,
• 2:07:39
  Speaker 1: they dance around everything. And it goes back to my
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 1: same point. It's like, it's the same bullshit. Yeah.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: And it's all day. Let's take a quick break.
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  Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to talk about some
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: of these bot farms and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to get into some of this bot stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I saw some stuff in the outline that has to
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  Speaker 1: type of bots, the most common ones that we see
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  Speaker 1: today are the, they're the only fans, porn bots that
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  Speaker 1: are trying to, they'll comment on a post and try
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  Speaker 1: goes to that site, right? So that's the first one.
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  Speaker 1: Those are nefarious, nothing bad. Not too nefarious. The second
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  Speaker 1: type of bot, which we've been seeing is bots that
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  Speaker 1: will pop up and they'll comment about an unfortunate situation.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're in a war zone. Most common one I've
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  Speaker 1: been seeing recently is people will claim they're in Gaza
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  Speaker 1: and they'll have a GoFundMe and they'll say, please help me.
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  Speaker 1: My family is dying in Gaza. Click my page and
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  Speaker 1: depending on the level of sophistication of the bot, it
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  Speaker 1: clearly will either look like a fake page or they
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  Speaker 1: look really real. And then there's the next level of bot,
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  Speaker 1: which is the one that I'm concerned about. And these
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  Speaker 1: are bots that comment about topics, news. So internally, and
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  Speaker 1: I've never talked about this ever, Let's say for example,
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  Speaker 1: we post a news article on Instagram and right when
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  Speaker 1: we hit post, there will be four or five comments.
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  Speaker 1: Right after I hit refresh, four or five paragraph article
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  Speaker 1: with a headline, I hit refresh, it's three seconds. There's
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  Speaker 1: a two sentence comment about that topic. Sean, that's humanly impossible.
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  Speaker 1: So the question is, what are they trying to do?
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  Speaker 1: We have restricted our Instagram approximately 1,000 accounts. Restricting means
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  Speaker 1: if we find somebody to comment something so fast, and
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  Speaker 1: we're not talking a word. I'm talking sentences within a
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  Speaker 1: second or two. That means you're a bot. There's something...
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  Speaker 1: That's not genuine about you. And we've got about a
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: thousand accounts over the three years that we started doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And what scares the shit out of me, Sean, is
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: when I look at those accounts, some of them clearly
• 2:13:55
  Speaker 1: look fake. I have found accounts, Sean, that look like
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  Speaker 1: real fucking people to the point where, a perfect example,
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  Speaker 1: we had, an article about the war in Ukraine, and
• 2:14:11
  Speaker 1: it was giving both sides of Russia and Ukraine. And
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 1: this guy comments three sentences within, I'm talking seconds, about
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: how Ukraine, something about Nazis in Ukraine or whatever. And
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, this is humanly impossible. Click his profile, look
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 1: at him. He's tagging his wife in pictures. Click his wife.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 1: His wife has an account, 600 followers. Oh, wow. Yeah, dude. wow,
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: these are sophisticated bot networks that have been set up
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: by foreign actors. And this isn't new, okay? But a
• 2:14:50
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't realize this. Like every couple months,
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: Meta will come out or Microsoft does these reports where
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: they'll say, we identified all these bot networks and then
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: they start shutting them down or Meta will announce they
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: took down 5,000 accounts or whatever. But people don't understand
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 1: the scale of it. So you might read a news
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: article instead of, you might read a headline and then
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: instead of reading the article, you just go to the
• 2:15:18
  Speaker 1: comments to see what people are saying. They're trying to
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 1: influence how you think in a comment. Now, the crazy
• 2:15:25
  Speaker 1: thing is you might be arguing with somebody that's not
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 1: even real. And they're gaslighting you. You were talking about
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: You got shit for having Gavin Newsom on here. I
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: wonder how many of those people were just maybe not
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: real people that were just trying to divide. I'm not
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 1: saying they all were. There's a ton of them.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: And what they do is they're trying to stir up shit.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: The funny thing, because we've restricted some accounts, we'll have,
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 1: and I'll show you how it looks, but it's basically
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: I can see their comment, but nobody else can see it,
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: and I have to approve to allow it. We've had
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: other bot accounts comment on our post, tagging, like as
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 1: if they're responding to you. So it'd be like, at SeanRyan762, right?
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: But they can't see that original comment. So it just
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: came up as a populated response to nothing. So it
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 1: tells me that's a bot too.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 2: You're saying that they are responding to the bot that
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: is- There are bots. That they wouldn't be able to see?
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 1: Yes. Holy shit. But they don't, because it's all automated.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen those videos, and I'll
• 2:16:39
  Speaker 1: send you them. There's like literally fucking rooms full of phones. Yeah.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 1: Have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen them.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: I don't understand exactly how they are working.
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 1: I don't understand. Without somebody behind the actual device. Well,
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's an AI. I would assume. Yeah. I
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 1: don't know the.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: Did you see that one in New York recently? You
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: guys covered that, I think.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 1: It wasn't bots. That was somebody trying to take down
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: cell towers. Some communication disruptor or something. That's fucking crazy.
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 1: How many phones was it? It wasn't actual phones. They
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: had some sort of system that allowed them to duplicate
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: like 100,000 phone numbers in some way. I don't know
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: if it was duplicate or they could mimic 100,000 phone calls.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 1: And what their idea was is they were going to,
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: Shut down Manhattan's communications. That's fucking crazy. And let me
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: tell you something. That's not some little gang or a cartel.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: That is somebody trying to do some shit. That's a
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: foreign adversary.
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: And you know what? We haven't heard a thing about that.
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 1: Of course we haven't.
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 1: Not a word. Makes you wonder, like... I mean, I
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: hate to talk about shit like this, but I don't
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: think people realize, like, how vulnerable our daily life is
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: to shit like that.
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 2:18:10
  Speaker 1: Power grid you know like we're going off a little
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: tangent here but china's been embedding in u.s critical infrastructure
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 1: for decades the something i love to do and i
• 2:18:24
  Speaker 1: encourage everybody to do it is i i really watch
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: these hearings with these top generals on capitol hill i
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 1: watch them religiously every second because you kind of get
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 1: an idea as to what's going on and There was
• 2:18:40
  Speaker 1: a general who went up that said that how they
• 2:18:43
  Speaker 1: view it is China has been embedding themselves in US
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: critical infrastructure with the goal of that if there was
• 2:18:50
  Speaker 1: ever a conflict to break out, it would slow a
• 2:18:53
  Speaker 1: US response down because it would create chaos within. Because
• 2:18:58
  Speaker 1: everybody's dependent on all this shit. You know? And it's...
• 2:19:08
  Speaker 1: It goes back to what we were talking about earlier,
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: which was nobody trusts anybody. You know, it's sad. Because
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 1: most people just.
• 2:19:22
  Speaker 2: Want to.
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 1: Just grow up. Sorry, I get emotional because it sucks.
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: Most people just want to raise a family and live.
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: But you can't. It's sad, man. It is. And it's
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 1: not just, I want to be clear, it's not just Americans.
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 1: The world, you think people in the Middle East want
• 2:19:46
  Speaker 1: the shit that's going on right now? People just want
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 1: to live.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 1: But what we've got, I tell my friends this, you've
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: got nine countries, eight or nine, that sit at a table.
• 2:20:08
  Speaker 1: Big long table and everybody that sits at that table
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: is a country that has a gun. What do I
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: mean by that? Those are countries that have nuclear weapons. Okay.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: The nine countries, China, North Korea, Russia, India, Pakistan, the UK, France,
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 1: the United States, and the one that everyone we don't
• 2:20:36
  Speaker 1: know is Israel. I think they have one. Those people
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 1: think of it as a person, a country. Sit at
• 2:20:50
  Speaker 1: this table. Some have the gun on the table to
• 2:20:53
  Speaker 1: show it off. Some have it holstered. The ones that
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 1: scare me, Sean, are the ones that have their hands
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 1: under the table. You know why? Because you don't know
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: if I'm pointing a gun at you. with everything that's
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: going on in this world right now, the stocking of satellites,
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: the embedding in critical infrastructure.
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: Supply chain, the fentanyl crisis, the buying our farmland, buying
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: land next to military bases. It goes on and on,
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: the propaganda, the bot farms.
• 2:21:30
  Speaker 1: Influencing us. On and on and on. I have questions, Sean.
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 1: This is hard to say, but I don't know. I
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 1: don't know if.
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 1: Fuck, dude. There's so much distrust and people don't realize it,
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 1: how bad it is right now. Every second, every minute,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 1: all it takes is one fucking thing and that could
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 1: be it. Now, what we hope is that those nine
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 1: people at that table aren't fucking crazy. But let me
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 1: tell you something. Guess who's sitting at that table? Just
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: one example. Kim Jong-un's sitting there. He's fucking crazy. Some
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: people will then say, well, maybe his gun doesn't work.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with someone pointing a gun at you?
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 1: That might not work. There's people that are more flamboyant
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: about it, and there's people that aren't. I've questioned, because
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 1: of the way the world's going, Everybody's arming up. Is
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: my generation going to get to live their full potential?
• 2:22:49
  Speaker 1: It's tough. Everybody's worried about that, man. It is, dude.
• 2:22:54
  Speaker 1: Because this is something I really believe in. Do people
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 1: just want to live? I've heard you talk about you
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: went to war for what? You have your feelings. You
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 1: were wondering why you were out there. Same thing. We're
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 1: totally off topic, but how far are people willing to go?
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I really don't know. But based
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 1: on everything I'm seeing, dude, it's fucking crazy. It's fucking crazy.
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: And we've got to get... I don't even... The thing is,
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: is how do we even fix that? There's so much distrust.
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: Everybody's spying on everybody. Everybody's embedding in each other's shit.
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: It's a clusterfuck, dude. How do you fix that? Right now,
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 1: the only fix to that that we've been using is deterrence.
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 1: That's okay. We're making all this shit open. We never
• 2:24:18
  Speaker 1: have to use it. And what's fucked, Sean, is if
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: we want to stop, they won't. Same stuff with like AI.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: Look at this AI shit right now. It's being weaponized.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: Has to be.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 1: We don't have an option. Because if we don't do it,
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 1: China's going to do it. Yep. Russia's going to do it.
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: Everybody's doing it. So we're fucked. We have to do it.
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 1: But look at what comes with that. You know, I
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: always tell people the number one thing that guarantees, that
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 1: I believe guarantees our freedoms in this country is that
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Let's say, God forbid,
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: something happened and this country had an issue where the
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: military was directed to do things that were unconstitutional to
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 1: us that would take our rights away. At the end
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 1: of the day, there's one thing that stops a ridiculous
• 2:25:35
  Speaker 1: order and our everyday life, and something impacting our everyday life.
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 1: And you know what that is? A soul, okay? If
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: a soldier, At the end of the day, they have
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 1: a heart, they have a soul, they have a mind.
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 1: With the way we're going, man, we're getting into the
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 1: world where is that even gonna be necessary anymore? Can
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 1: you just take an order and it just does it?
• 2:26:02
  Speaker 1: You know? You ever thought about that? That we're... We
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 1: got all these countries now that are using robotics and
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 1: they're arming all these robots. Fuck, could you imagine what
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 1: it would look like if one of these countries had
• 2:26:16
  Speaker 1: a coup from within? With AI? What the fuck does
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: the world do? And all these AI wizards and tech guys,
• 2:26:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not a tech guy, and these guys might dog
• 2:26:28
  Speaker 1: on me and say, this guy has no idea what
• 2:26:29
  Speaker 1: the fuck he's talking about. Okay, cool, what's your plan
• 2:26:32
  Speaker 1: for that? Well, it can never happen. How? There's guardrails.
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 1: Everybody can break a guardrail. Fuck, AI is right now
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: thinking for itself. Did you hear the story that was,
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was, I don't know if it was
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 1: Google or who it was, they had to shut down
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 1: an AI that they were testing because they told the
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 1: AI that they were going to shut it down because
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: it wasn't working well, and they were kind of just
• 2:27:00
  Speaker 1: egging it on, and it threatened to blackmail one of
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 1: the developers. Was that real? I couldn't tell if that
• 2:27:06
  Speaker 1: was real. I read it was real. That was bullshit. Yeah,
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: it was an AI, it was a report. Yeah. that
• 2:27:11
  Speaker 1: they released. I forgot the group's name. And when I
• 2:27:15
  Speaker 1: saw that, I said, are you fucking kidding me?
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: I think this is what I think. I think it
• 2:27:23
  Speaker 2: is a game of patience. And this is going to
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 2: sound bad.
• 2:27:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, fuck it.
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: But I think this is going to be a game
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 2: of patience. I think that the older generations are going
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 2: to have to disappear. You know, it's a matter of time. Just,
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: everybody fucking dies right i think the older generations uh
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 2: as they start to die off you know i think
• 2:27:50
  Speaker 2: because the younger generations are more in tune with what's
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: going on. At least that's my view of things.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 1: They see.
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: I think they're sick of it. They see the AI.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 2: They have total, complete distrust of mainstream media. They don't
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 2: trust any of the government institutions. Then you have the
• 2:28:04
  Speaker 2: older generations that they can't wrap their head around the
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 2: fact that the news outlets that they've been watching for
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: 75 years are fucking lying to them and likely have
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 2: been the entire time. You know, that their entire world
• 2:28:17
  Speaker 2: has been flipped upside down and they aren't... They just
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: don't understand it. I mean, just like the thing you
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 2: just showed me, a 93-year-old woman or 83-year-old woman posting
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: an AI video thinking it's real. And then under all
• 2:28:31
  Speaker 2: the comments, those people all think it's real too. I mean,
• 2:28:34
  Speaker 2: it's very unfortunate, but you're not going to reframe, you know,
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 2: 65 years old plus, you're not going to reframe that mind.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 2: It's just their entire world has been flipped upside down.
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 2: Tech is just advancing at a rapid pace and they're not, it's,
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 2: They're not going.
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: To get it. But it's crazy where it's going.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 2: I think that the younger generation is more in tune
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 2: with this, probably millennial generation and down.
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think it's a waiting game, unfortunately.
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 2: I also think that people need to be a little
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 2: bit more accepting, a little bit less judgmental, a little
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 2: bit more willing to poke holes in their own fucking stories.
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 2: I see a lot of people that are unwilling to
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 2: do any self-reflection and poke holes in their own stories.
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 2: And that is detrimental. That is fucking absolutely detrimental. When
• 2:29:34
  Speaker 2: you have somebody that is 100% bought and sold on
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 2: what they are seeing on X and are unwilling to
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 2: self-reflect and poke holes in their own stories, that person
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 2: is now gone too. And, and I mean, you always,
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 2: you just always have to be willing to poke holes
• 2:29:51
  Speaker 2: in your own bullshit. And you don't see a lot
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: of that today either, but that's kind of, that's what
• 2:29:59
  Speaker 2: I think. And I think people need to lean out too.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 2: You know, I think people just becomes their life.
• 2:30:04
  Speaker 1: They go challenge you. You've got to challenge what you're seeing.
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 2: People are spending seven hours a day on social media.
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: You know, Getting cooked up with the algorithm wants them
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: to see. Yep.
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: It just pigeonholes you more and more and more and more.
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: The more time you spend on it, the more it
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: learns about you.
• 2:30:23
  Speaker 1: It's crazy how much power that is.
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: You can literally move somebody to do anything.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: But it has no power if we go back to
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 2: human connection. Can we get there? Honestly, I've thought about that.
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Remember the days when I grew up?
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't really tell you much about when I grew up,
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: but I remember the days, man, you would go knock
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 1: on your neighbor's door to play with them and shit,
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: do shit like that, play soccer. Yeah, stuff still goes on,
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 1: but remember the days where you would actually make plans
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 1: with your friends and hang out with them and go?
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 1: All that stuff is like, and those were like private moments.
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 1: Now everything has to be publicized and thrown on social
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 1: media and It's weird how, like, man, our childhood, what
• 2:31:16
  Speaker 1: it was and what it is now, it's just different.
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 1: But I do see that there's a drive among some
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 1: people to try to give their children that are being
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 1: born today that same childhood, away from the iPad, not
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 1: giving the kid the iPad and all the bullshit.
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: It's happening all the time, man. I just had Trey Stevenson,
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: co-founder of Anduril. Those kids don't have any devices.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 1: Really? Major, major tech guy. You see how sad, too,
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 1: I was at a dinner recently, and it was an
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 1: older woman, maybe in her 90s, and she was sitting
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: there with her two, I would assume they were her grandkids,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 1: fucking stuck in the phone while she's eating. Oh, man,
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 1: I see that all the time. And, you know, I
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 1: thought to myself, like, fuck. And I just... I mean,
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 1: we're all on borrowed time. You know, those kids will
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: grow up and they'll regret that. Those moments that you're
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 1: just fucking stuck in some little virtual box. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. Sucks, dude.
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 2: It's pretty sad. It's pretty sad, but there's a lot
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 2: of good stuff going on in the world, too.
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta look both ways.
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: But you'll never see it if you don't lean out
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: of digital. But get out in your fucking community.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: Touch grass. Not everybody hates you. I see it all
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: over this town. Yeah. So, but, well, hey, as we
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: wrap this up. Yeah.
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: And you have been judging media outlets, big ones, small ones,
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: independent ones, mainstream ones. How do you think we're doing?
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: I think you're doing a good job, Sean. You know,
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 2: you brought up, you brought on Gavin Newsom. I'll be
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 2: honest with you.
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: I think. Prior to, I don't keep up with all
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 1: your stuff religiously, just because life gets crazy, man. Hey,
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: I get it. I can barely keep up with my shit,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: but I catch one every once in a while. My brother, though, he's,
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: that's why he's here, he wanted to meet you, but
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: I had this impression of you originally that you were
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: more right-leaning. I don't know why. That's just how I
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 1: absorbed it originally. And over time, as I listen to you,
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: I've seen that I was wrong. And I think how
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 1: I view you and what you're doing here is you're
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 1: trying to have a real conversation with people. And you
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 1: bringing on Gavin Newsom, I think, was really the pinnacle
• 2:33:56
  Speaker 1: of you showing that you're not an echo chamber. You're
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: open to people challenging new ideas. I've seen some of
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 1: your podcasts where you have somebody on, talk shit on
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: somebody else, and then you let that other person that
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 1: was getting shit talked come on in. And I think
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 1: that's important, and that's good, and you're facilitating that. And
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 1: that's what I think we need. People need to be
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: able to have a conversation again. There's guys from the
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: left and guys from the right that all have great ideas.
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: Some of them are bad, some of them are good,
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we should be
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: able to sit down and have a conversation about it.
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 1: You know? And I think that's what you're doing here.
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 1: I think you're allowing people to come in here and
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 1: open up and talk. Fuck, I mean, you've had some
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: amazing guests. I told you, it's crazy I'm sitting here
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 1: because I really, I mean, you've had some truly top-tier guests. Fuck,
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 1: you had Tom Homan in this chair crying. It's a
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: tough man. You know, you got me to tear up
• 2:35:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit in here. That's just how I feel.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 1: You've had everybody from all walks of life and you've
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 1: even brought in people from different countries that maybe have
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 1: some different views than what we're all told here. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's important. I think you're truly someone that's
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  Speaker 1: independent and you're kind of going down your road and
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  Speaker 1: you're open to, And that's the same thing with me.
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  Speaker 1: We're both artists. We just paint a picture and put
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of color on it and let people figure
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  Speaker 1: it out. That's just what you've been doing. And I
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  Speaker 1: hope you continue to do that. I hope that you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, bring in people. It'll be cool. Something that
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  Speaker 1: we're going to do is I want to start bringing
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  Speaker 1: in Republican and Democratic lawmakers over for dinner and talk
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: about America while they cook some food. Wouldn't that be cool?
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  Speaker 1: That would be great. I think that would be sick.
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  Speaker 1: I have AOC and Marjorie Taylor Greene in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. I might get fucking canceled for that. Or
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: like a Republican, you know, and cook a meal and
• 2:36:19
  Speaker 1: have a conversation about America. And I think you're doing
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: that on a much larger scale, bringing people in and
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 1: having that conversation. We need to have more of that.
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  Speaker 1: We need to have more, less of the loud, noisy bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: and more of just people connecting on a human level,
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: as Americans. The human connection. It's important. We've got to
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  Speaker 1: get back to that. And if we don't, it's not good.
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  Speaker 1: I hope people take that away from that, too. Get
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  Speaker 1: out of your echo chambers. You don't have to like
• 2:36:59
  Speaker 1: my news. I could give two fucks. Go find, stay
• 2:37:03
  Speaker 1: where you're at, but challenge yourself. They have to realize
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: they're in an echo chamber first. A lot of people
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 1: still don't realize it. If you watch Fox News, please,
• 2:37:14
  Speaker 1: take 30 minutes out of your day, and I know
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 1: it's hard to do, turn on MSNBC. Just turn it on.
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  Speaker 1: Challenge yourself. Same thing goes for the people watching MSNBC.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's hard. 30 minutes. Just reinforce what you believe.
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  Speaker 1: Because you would be surprised. There's much more that unites
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: us than divides on both sides. You just don't realize
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 1: it because people get... It just goes back to you
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  Speaker 1: have to be willing to poke holes in your own story.
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  Speaker 3: True. But.
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  Speaker 1: Well, John, I love what you're doing, man.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Been following you for a long time.
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 2: I'll continue to do it. Dude, you got to make
• 2:37:59
  Speaker 2: the newsletter. You got to make the newsletter.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: Newsletter. So what? It's just a... There's your subscription. Yeah.
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 1: The newsletter. Just a newsletter that people get news from.
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  Speaker 1: Just a little bit more detail. Got it.
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  Speaker 3: But.
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  Speaker 1: One more thing to do, man. Hey, you got to expand, right? Yeah.
• 2:38:19
  Speaker 1: You're not growing... You're dying. But hey, man. Pleasure to
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  Speaker 1: meet you. Nice to meet you, Sean.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: And real news, no bullshit. So everybody check it out.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 1: Catch us on Instagram. We've got a website. Simple, man.
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  Speaker 3: Cheers.
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  Speaker 1: Cheers.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Sean Ryan, former Navy SEAL, CA contractor, and host
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 2: of The Sean Ryan Show. Much of my life has
• 2:38:57
  Speaker 2: been dedicated to seeking truth and getting answers no matter
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 2: how uncomfortable the questions are that we have to ask.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 2: But in the age of the PSYOP, that search has
• 2:39:09
  Speaker 2: never been more difficult. In September of 2022, the U.S.
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 2: Army's 4th PSYOP group released a cryptic video on YouTube.
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 3: There is another very important phase of warfare. It has
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 3: as its target not the body, but the mind of
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 3: the enemy.
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: Between clips of troops assembling chess pieces and social unrest,
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: phrases begin to appear on screen. They ask, have you
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: ever wondered who's pulling the strings?
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 1: These are the sidewall soldiers.
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: The series you're about to listen to is an attempt
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  Speaker 2: to answer that question, and an even bigger one. The
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 2: global power brokers that conduct psychological operations constantly evolve. Technology
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 2: like AI has evened the playing field, and now, in
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 2: the era of social media consumption, In the democratization of information,
• 2:40:14
  Speaker 2: all it takes to conduct a PSYOP is a smartphone.
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  Speaker 1: Like and subscribe.
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  Speaker 2: In each episode, we look at a different method of
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 2: psychological operations, how they've evolved, and.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: How they are being deployed.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: There's a quote that is attributed to a scientist named E.O.
• 2:40:35
  Speaker 2: Wilson that says, We are drowning in information. while starving
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 2: for wisdom.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: This is a life.
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: Raft in that sea of both information and misinformation.
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 1: PsyOps are all around us.
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 2: They are conducted by corporations, governments, activist groups, intelligence agencies,
• 2:41:01
  Speaker 2: foreign adversaries, and anyone who knows how to shape perception
• 2:41:06
  Speaker 2: to get what they want. The series provides an in-depth
• 2:41:15
  Speaker 2: look at how these psyops work from conversations with whistleblowers, experts, historians,
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 2: tech innovators, and more. We look at world events that
• 2:41:25
  Speaker 2: are being shaped by highly constructed psychological operations specialists and
• 2:41:30
  Speaker 2: look at the terrifying possibilities of where this could all
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 2: be headed. Along the way, you'll learn about everything from
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: Russian troll farms, fake ghosts in the jungles of Vietnam,
• 2:41:44
  Speaker 2: and mind control cults to the CIA's involvement in Hollywood.
• 2:41:49
  Speaker 3: Do you have any people paid by the CIA who
• 2:41:57
  Speaker 3: are working for television networks.
• 2:42:01
  Speaker 2: The early history of psyops and psychological experiments laid the
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 2: foundation for what we see today in modern campaigns that
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 2: seek to divide culture over polarizing issues.
• 2:42:13
  Speaker 1: We look at where we are and how we got here.
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 1: But ultimately, this series is a.
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 2: Toolkit to help you understand how you're being manipulated and
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 2: how to spot the signs of a psyop. Before the
• 2:42:29
  Speaker 2: Army's viral PSYOP recruitment video ends, the words on screen
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 2: inform viewers that war is evolving and all the world's
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 2: a stage. This series is a peek behind the curtain.
• 2:42:43
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the PSYOP. Buy it today at PSYOPshow.com. No
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