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Wholehearted WORD Rhythms with Angela Perritt of Love God Greatly · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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  SPEAKER_02: When you hear the phrase quiet time, what does it make you think?
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  SPEAKER_02: Does it feel like a punishment, maybe a timeout in the corner?
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  SPEAKER_02: Maybe it feels like a dream that you have and it never happens, or perhaps it's even an item on your to-do list that you tend to put off or keeps getting pushed to the bottom because you're not really just certain how to begin or do this thing quiet time.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, quiet time can often be a phrase used to describe getting in the word of God, journaling, praying, rhythms like this.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it can be a challenging thing to do.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: So that's why every year I'd love to invite you and this community to begin again and have these conversations about the wholehearted rhythms, word worship, and write.
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  SPEAKER_02: Friend, I truly believe that God's word is the daily reset you need.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whether you're facing fear, discontentment, or frustration, scripture is the catalyst for change.
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  SPEAKER_02: Over time, I learned to finally make my daily reading simple, just one chapter a day.
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  SPEAKER_02: I put it in my favorite spot in the house.
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  SPEAKER_02: I had all the things that I wanted nearby, like a journal, my Bible, my pens, and that sort of thing, all together.
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  SPEAKER_02: And then to make it even better, I began to pair that time with my favorite beverage, a hot coffee.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_02: And then eventually that was a moment in my day that I look forward to.
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  SPEAKER_02: The night before, as I was making sure everything was ready for the next morning, I would get excited about that time with the Lord.
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  SPEAKER_02: And now when I wake up, even if I'm feeling tired and a little bit low about the day ahead, I feel so excited to sit with the Lord and have these conversations.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: So today's special replay episode is a conversation I had with Angela Parrott, the founder of Love God Greatly.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_02: She has a ton of insights about helping you get in the Word, and they're just as relevant today as they were a couple years ago.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have several conversations this month to help you implement these rhythms and to take the action steps that you desire to make these rhythms part of your daily pillars.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: Listen, I know what it's like to let another year slip by and realize that you're not where you want to be, but not this year, my friend.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is the year that you're gonna see the changes that you are hoping for.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Enjoy this replayed conversation with Angela Perrett.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Amy Wicks, your wholehearted living coach.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I'm so glad that you stopped by to spend some time with me.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you curious about the Enneagram?
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  SPEAKER_02: Do you want to learn biblical truths?
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  SPEAKER_02: And have you wondered if there are life rhythms that will help you thrive?
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, friends, you are in the right place.
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  SPEAKER_02: For six years, this podcast has focused on sharing conversations with my friends about life, business, motherhood, faith, and all things Instagram from a Christian perspective.
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  SPEAKER_02: I truly understand what it's like to juggle everything as a wife, mom to three teenagers, a pub, and all while building a growing business.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have always done things with clear.
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  SPEAKER_02: With a step-by-step process to get free of anxiety, and frustration that might be holding you back from driving.
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  SPEAKER_02: I pray that the Lord speaks to you as you listen today and that you would invite your friends and family to join the fun conversation.
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  SPEAKER_02: Are you ready to laugh a little and learn a whole lot?
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_02: Alrighty, let's get to the conversation.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, those early days, three and three and a half years, I was drowning.
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  SPEAKER_02: Somebody save me.
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  SPEAKER_02: But but we made it.
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  SPEAKER_02: We love to tell about it.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um I'm so excited to hear.
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  SPEAKER_02: I have this before I knock everything off my shelf here.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_02: I have this beautiful.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I got the like influencer kit, you know, these things that do.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: I got it from Dana and I was like, this is gorgeous.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, my girls were fighting over it.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, I was like, hey, now wait a minute.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: I don't need a new Bible, but I kind of want this one.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_02: But I I'm excited to dive in about the Bible and really your ministry because your Bible's just a little reflection of the ministry at large.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_02: And so I can't wait to hear all about it.
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  SPEAKER_02: But first, we love to talk about the Enneagram.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: Because it helps us understand our story.
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  SPEAKER_02: And and I think, well, how I use it, not I think how I use it is to understand our story in light of God's big story.
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  SPEAKER_02: So tell us what you know about your Enneagram type and just what you've gleaned from understanding the little bit that you do understand.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I am when I've, you know, read up about it and taken the test.
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  SPEAKER_00: I am a two with a three-wing.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which once I like read up, I was like, okay, yeah, that that totally sounds like me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I thought I thought it was funny, even when it said, you know, like what type of professions people did have with a two with a three-wing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like, you know, like ministry leader and you know, like all that kind of stuff.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yeah, that that's it.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: So it was actually really good learning about it because I felt like um it almost helped me understand myself a little bit more and everything, too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, and in some ways I was like, oh, okay, because sometimes I feel like at least with myself, I can't always put to words exactly like why I feel this way or struggle this way.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, I remember there's been a couple of times I read something and I was like, wow, yeah, like, you know, that that you know, that gets, you know, you get me or that gets me.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's so nice to have something articulate what's going on in our mind and in our heart because we don't always have the language for it, but it it puts feet, it puts words into what it is that's going on in here and go, okay, that's why that's why this is hard, or this is why I love this, or this is why the communication is going this way.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's you know, it's just a great tool all the way around, but I love it.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: Well, well, and just knowing like how you feel loved and valued, and what was interesting when I was getting ready for this podcast and I was kind of like reading up on it again and stuff, it was reminding me, like, especially like there's this one section I read that was talking about like, you know, like our weaknesses and stuff.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Yeah, that's right, that's true, true.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, especially like with twos, we want to be like loved and accepted and fear rejection and all that kind of stuff.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh my goodness, yes.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_00: And it was interesting the looking at it again and being like, you know what?
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's good for me to know this and know this about myself because I looking back at my life and my history, those are ways I feel like I've been like, you know, like Satan's kind of like attacked me, right?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so it's good for me to see that that you know I struggle in those ways because I feel like it actually helps me be stronger to combat it and be like, oh, okay, like I know, you know, I have these old wounds.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know that, you know, I, you know, need, you know, feel loved this way and these different things have happened, but I feel like it makes me stronger in the fact that I can combat it and be like, okay, I know what's going on here, you know.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, it's so good.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: I love um the book that the title is gonna escape me, but I've talked about it before.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's a Stephen Pressfield book and he talks about resistance.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_02: And it's an adult book.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_02: There's some, you know, adult words in there, but I, even though he's not a believer, it's one of the best books on spiritual warfare.
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  SPEAKER_02: And what he calls spiritual warfare is resistance.
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  SPEAKER_02: And I then therefore likened some of those enneagrim weaknesses that it points out of going, okay, this is how the enemy knows that he can either distract me or derail me.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I need to, because he does the same thing again and again.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_02: I just need to get smart.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's not creative.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, he's not creative.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_02: And I need to find that scripture and that truth and that and live in that awareness of going, oh, this this isn't true.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is just the enemy's tactic.
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  SPEAKER_02: This is the weakness, but I can overcome because you know, where I am weak, God is made strong and he has come in and gives enough for us to be able to oppose the enemy and to to fight through.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, I love that.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_02: It's so good.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's so helpful, right?
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's so helpful.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's so helpful.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I love what you said where, you know, like, you know, he's not a creator, right?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, God is the creator, he's the creator, he's the creative one.
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  SPEAKER_00: Satan really comes in and he's just more the destroyer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so I think understanding that and kind of giving a little more clarity to it helps and stuff too.
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  SPEAKER_00: So absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh it's good.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's such a fun little resource.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: I love it.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I want to know.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, I got this beautiful book in the mail, and I looked up the ministry of what you're doing, love God greatly.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, come on, like preaching, preaching my tune here.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_02: So uh tell me a little bit about what led you to start this ministry.
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  SPEAKER_02: And a lot of times I like to lead in, okay, what was that brokenhearted moment that led to that wholehearted decision to start the ministry, to write the book, to you know, step into the fullness of what the Lord is calling you to right now.
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  SPEAKER_02: And we have a lot of those brokenhearted moments, and we have a lot of those stories, but um, how how did the Lord use those things um to lead you where you're at?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean, I love the story and the fact that really what led me to it was um, yeah, I have like I said, I have three girls.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: My first two are 16 months apart.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um before that, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_02: My first two are 14 months apart.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh my goodness, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And before that, so um my husband, you know, uh had just finished residency.
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  SPEAKER_00: So we had like a ton of just medical school debt and everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I had um unfortunately found my identity in my job and in my title and like going to school and getting the degree and kind of um you know, just having my own paycheck a little bit, you know, and helping, you know, I kind of found my identity and I didn't really even realize it until I no longer had it.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: So after um my husband graduated from residency, then we had our first daughter, and I went from having a title to having the best title ever of, you know, mom and wife.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: But at the same time, like, okay, this is a lot different, you know?
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so just having a season of like, you know, my husband was working a ton, like as soon as literally the next day after he graduated, he started working to try to pay off all those debt because it was, it was really stressful on us.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_00: I bet.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I went through a series of time of, you know, like having Paige and then soon having, you know, Addy and not really having like, you know, the proper, you know, identity and in who who I was in Christ.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: And just, you know, needing community around me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I knew I needed to be in God's word, but at that stage in life, you know, it's hard.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: And then with my husband's job, um, it just seemed like my girls were always getting sick.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so we weren't able to go to church because I couldn't drop them off at the daycare.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like if you know if they're sick, you can't witness.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so it made it really hard.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that's where that that hard heartbreak moment is where it was like, okay, so what am I gonna do?
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how am I gonna create this?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: And so from there, really, it was, you know, just gathering some local friends and being able to get together with them.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I was a tea I used to, you know, be a teacher, so I always kind of have like a, you know, teacher heart also, and um just really a desire to get women in God's word, and so just you know, like starting, you know, writing Bible studies and sharing Bible studies and sharing them on, you know, the internet and stuff.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then, you know, this was you know, obviously a number of years ago, and then um we I and I ended up getting contacted by a missionary in Venezuela.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, she had started using my studies or our studies in, you know, um Spanish, translating them into Spanish, and she I contacted me and was like, you know, this is what I'm doing, you know, you know, is this okay?
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: Do you mind if I you know keep doing that?
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: We don't have a lot of resources in the Spanish language.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: And and going back in my story, this is what I think is so cool with how God, yeah, he goes before us.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I love to tell this, especially to the younger generation of like, God is doing things in your life right now, and he's preparing you something that you might not be able to even see what he's working on right here for years.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: And that was my case where I was you know, an Air Force brat, raised, you know, in the Air Force, had a lot of friends, you know, from different countries, saw a lot of my friends go overseas.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_00: I was never able, fortunate to live overseas, but at a young age, like my heart was there.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um, grew up with just like lots of like dolls and stuff of different, you know, like nationalities and languages, and I just loved that.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I was in high school, then able to start going on some mission trips.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember being in the Ukraine, and again, you know, Air Force Brat, you know, in the 90s, you know, Berlin Wall, you know, coming down, all that, you know, Russia opening up and you know, going to the Ukraine and stuff.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember being there, we were doing a BBS, and we were in this like apartment kind of complex, and I had gone out that night on the patio, and I remember looking at the night sky.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I know this is sounds so like simple and crazy, but just shows you like how God just reveals himself through nature too.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: I remember looking at the night sky and being like, oh my goodness, like this sky, the moon, looks exactly the same way that it looks like in the United States.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: And I know that truth is like so simple, but for me, it just made a huge impact on my life and on my heart.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, went back, you know, and you know, went to college and you know, got married and all that kind of stuff.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: But then once I started staying home with my girls, it's like God brought that passion back.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: And once Adurney had contacted me and I saw that need as a sister in Christ, I was like, oh my goodness, like you could have anything that we create.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing I ask is, could you give it back to me?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because I want to keep giving it to others.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: And so from there, um, every time we would launch another Bible study, we'd say, Hey, if you want this and you don't have your language, contact us.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: We would love to work with you.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and truly from there, God has has blessed us where we actually are serving women around the world in 33 languages.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_00: That's phenomenal.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a God thing.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's a huge honor and a blessing.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And I honestly, like, if you meet uh my translators, we have about 60 translators now.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: We are just the best of the best.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, truly it's all God because I er so basically another thing that we do is we do leader women's leadership training.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_00: So not only do all do we do all these, you know, Bible, you know, resources and stuff, but we also do lead women's leadership training where we're actually training leaders, women to be leaders in their homes, in their countries, because our whole prayer is reaching that one woman who, you know, influences her family, who influences her neighborhood or her community, and obviously then her nation.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of like our our prayer.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so we're training, you know, our translators and our leaders and stuff too.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: We have branches and stuff in all these different nations.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and it's just, yeah, it's just, you know, it's amazing.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I do, I mean, God has blessed us where we we get the sweetest of the sweetest.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can't brag, you know.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that my my women are just so sweet, even the fact that they're actually volunteers too.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: So they do all this amazing work and they volunteer time because it shows you how passionate they are with what they're doing.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: And then my payment, basically, my payment to them is every other year I bring them back to my home.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: I live in Dallas, Texas, um, and I have I'm blessed with some really sweet neighbors around me.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_00: And we house them in our in our home for a week and we do leadership training and bring them together.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: And they experience that community that we're wanting to cultivate and create.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: They experience it, and then we send them back to the countries and be like, okay, you know, tag, you're it, go, you know.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's amazing.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: That's so crazy.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, to think about just that one small step of faith in over 33 countries, and I mean, I'm guessing thousands of leader training and you know, just probably then therefore exponentially into millions of impact.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's incredible.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and all of our translations we allow to be downloaded for free, printed for free, and distributed for free because we're wanting to empower women in these nations.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: We're wanting to empower ministries and churches, like especially with the pandemic this year.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, God had set us up for it.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we added uh one like one new language uh for eight months.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_00: We added eight new languages in 2020.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: And we were just coming to us and saying, we see that you had this in this language, we want those resources, you know.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Can we have it?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_00: Can we work with you?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: We want to, you know, we we need this.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: We need God's word.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: So that's amazing.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, so I know people can go pick at your website and look at all the stuff, but give us a quick rundown what you provide for women like us and even what partnership, what that looks like maybe to partner with your ministry.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_00: I would love it.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_00: So basically, what's really cool is really American women, you know, ordinary just American women who do our studies are supporting this ministry, which is incredible.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: So when you buy one of our Love God Greatly journals, like on Amazon, or you you know, you buy, you know, our Love God Greatly Bible and stuff, you're supporting this amazing work that we are blessed to do.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, as women, you know, do our studies, and and that's the thing too, we're not only just equipping women around the world um with God's word, we're equipping our own women in the United States with God's word.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_00: And what we try to do is one thing we're passionate about is we want, you know, really our whole name, love God greatly.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: We want to encourage women to love God greatly.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: And we do that by, you know, our blog posts, our journals, um, all of our uh Bible study content, but we also try to do it even in just how it looks.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: So, like our Bible, you know, inside is beautiful with just the scripture art and just how it's designed, um, but then also just the stories, the stories of God's faithfulness in our sisters here in the United States and around the world.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: We try to have, you know, have it be beautiful, you know, in both in both ways to look at um and to read.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember a couple of years ago I was in Hungary, I was speaking at a women's conference, and I had brought, you know, our translator translated uh Hungarian journals, and after the conference, I had like a little booth and stuff.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so some women had come to talk to me, and I started just passing them out and giving them to them.
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember they took them and they were just like, oh my goodness, like this is in Hungarian.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Well, yeah, like that's what we do.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we want to love you and serve you and get these studies in your language.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_00: And they like started to tear up and cry, and they said, Oh my goodness, these studies are as beautiful in our language as they are in English.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: And it just hit me so hard because that's another way that we can love our sisters in Christ by giving them beautiful quality Bible studies that are the same quality as what they see in in the English language, also have that in in their language, either it's in Hungarian or Indonesian or German or Czechoslovakian or um, you know, just all different kinds of languages.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, that's what we try to do.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_02: And I I think the attention to detail there of making it beautiful.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh, women have a universal desire no matter where they live, because I too have traveled all over the world and it's been a while, you know.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_02: That was pre-kids, and now we're just entering into that.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, it's time to take our kids outside of the boundaries of our country so they can experience it.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_02: But um, beauty is a universal desire.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_02: We want our kids to be beautiful, we want that thing.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's part of the genetic feminine makeup and a reflection of God that we get to carry.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's incredibly powerful.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: And the the thought that you guys would make it just as beautiful, um, it's really easy.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: I think I I think that's a key piece because it's, I don't know, sometimes I'm like, oh, you know, it's it doesn't need to be all that or or this, and and we don't take that time to create beauty or to enjoy beauty in a simple, like you said, a journal and a Bible study.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but there there's so much meaning that you know, we and attention to though that we give that's something that's really beautiful and um inspires us to connect with the creator.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: That is just the story.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, and it helps women.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_00: One thing I always say to them too is God sees you, he knows you, and he loves you.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: And when they can have Bible studies or they can have God's word in their language, that speaks truth that hey, God sees you.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, you have his attention and that he loves you so much that he wants you to have these resources.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so just even just having it in their languages validates to them that God, he knows you.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: And and and I remember even like I said when I was in hunger, I remember one of the women or a few of the women kept saying, you know, why did you come to us?
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like of all the, you know, the the countries, you know, why did you come to us?
• 20:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I just remember responding and being like, Why wouldn't I come to you?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like that's I mean, you are important and I'm honored to be here with you.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: And so um, I don't know, it's just it's just yeah, it's really important.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's so cool.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I I am pretty confident my friends are going to go check out your website and learn more and get the resources and stuff.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_02: And please, I mean, the one of the big reasons that I wanted to invite you on one because I love this and I love what I saw in the ministry.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_02: And Jana is persistent, she knew we needed to talk.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um that's what I love about her.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_02: So at the beginning of every year, we've done, I like rhythms, right?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: And so a lot of what I realize that I've been sharing is called wholehearted rhythms.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_02: And it's this rhythm of seasons and evaluating our season.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: It's rhythms of deliberate intention connection with our kids.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: It's rhythms, most importantly, the wholehearted rhythms that connect us to our savior and to to really be able to live wholeheartedly, the source of that, which is Jesus Christ.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: Like without him, it's just striving and it's really, really hard.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: And we end up brokenhearted again and again.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: So at the beginning of the year, I love taking um a few weeks to fast and pray and most importantly to establish some rhythms that I want to carry out into the year.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_02: And the main, the like the the pinnacle of that to me is getting in the word of God.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_02: So this is one of the reasons that I wanted to just talk about.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: What does it look like to get to create that wholehearted rhythm?
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: What does it look like?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: to make getting in the word of God more fun.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: You touched on one of it, making it beautiful.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: What are some of those elements that you teach other women, teach your leaders to to birth the passion in them, but also to share the passion with others of getting in that word of getting in the word of God on a regular basis?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think for me, and I'm just speaking for my own life, um, what I've learned, and it's so funny, like again, how God grows you like through the years, of the difference of why you're doing it, right?
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: So when I was younger, you know, and I was taught how to have a quiet time and the importance of it.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: And you get that, like in your mind you understand that, right?
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like you need to spend time with God.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well of course I need to spend time with God.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_00: You know like I get that.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: But then what would happen is I would get busy or I would miss a day and then I miss another day and then I miss another day.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then what would end up happening was shame would come on me and I'd hear like oh you know God's been waiting for you and you haven't shown up for a couple days.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Shame on you, you know, and and you know all that kind of stuff.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it and it really kind of almost like ends up holding you back, right?
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: And not being like, oh I don't know, you know, like it almost you know deters you from wanting to do that and everything.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I feel like I've worked through that through the years where instead of approaching it that way, approach it with um just an understanding of that relationship, right?
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: This isn't an obligation.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: I want to do this because I love him, right?
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to you know I want to enjoy this relationship and I want to find out like what do you have for me?
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to you know just make it more personal instead of making it an obligation that's one thing I always pray for my girls is I want them to obey the Lord not out of obligation but because they love him.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like I want their obedience to be because you know they love the Lord and they're thankful and they're thankful to Jesus for what he's you know done for their lives.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: And just in an it's just a little tweak.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't seem like it's a lot but it makes a huge difference.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: And so when I've struggled where maybe I've had you know like super busy days and I you know like oh gosh you know I haven't had my quiet time in the morning and I feel like you know bad about it.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's helped me have that with that um that vision or that you know that lens of love and relationship you know has really just helped me I feel like it make me enjoy it enjoy that time more.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah when it's a a wholehearted response yes a wholehearted obligation and yes have to check off right and just seeking that that that relationship um and and learning to enjoy it and then praying about it.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: And the thing is like it's not like every single day you're like oh my goodness you know get my coffee or tea and here we go.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know I mean sometimes it's you know like okay here we go.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: But but still having that heart of that relationship and I love this and thank you Lord and thank you for showing it to me and you know and then of course it doesn't even end I keep pointing to my one chair because I do it over there.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_00: But it doesn't even end just in that quiet time.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean really it's you do it throughout the day right I mean you're still having that per persistent like you know or prayer you know that prompting of your your heart and praying over things as you're going about the day.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: But it's a good for me I feel like being in God's word um is just it like resets me.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know I've noticed in my heart when I've gotten super busy or let's say for example on vacation or you just get out of your rhythms, right?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_02: And then I haven't been in God's word like I should um I feel like you know fears creep in more you know just um not you know I'm not content you know I'm you know I struggle in different ways and when I get back to God's word I'm like oh thank you Lord like you reset me again you know yes yes it's so good it's it's all about I think too it there's that you know it's a spiritual discipline that can feel so heavy but the the fruit of any discipline is such goodness that we can't help but want to partake and eat it and go like oh it's just having that chair having that rhythm have you know taking that step in that action oh it's so worth it even if I don't feel like it today I know what's on the other side is goodness and so it is worth carving up the time making the effort um you know pushing pause on something else so I can go sit and even if it's even if it's one verse right I mean that can be the catalyst for change for the rest of our day which is so invaluable.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_02: So I love it.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's a good tip any any woman could take to the bank and just remember as they strike out in this new year of going, okay, I want this to become part of my rhythm.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_02: Why am I doing it again?
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: This is why yes yes exactly well one of the other things that we are doing in every season is we take time to pause and reflect on the season before and then take some of what we've learned and apply it to what we want to learn ahead.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_02: And so we can do that seasonally I do that weekly with um some business friends it's how we evaluate what do we learn that week and and what what do we want to learn in the week ahead we can do that through every year too.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_02: So I thought it would be fun especially as we've been talking about it in my community I want to I kind of want to hear what did you learn of in 2020 and um and that's an acronym we won't go through all of it today but what did you like about 2020 and what didn't you like about 2020 and what are you excited about in 2021?
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah so 2020 I'm sure like with a lot of your listeners has just been a crazy year for me.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: So um my husband's an ER doctor here in Dallas.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: So my life has been just you kind of yeah but it's at the same time I would say you know just with that question of um you know it seems like this year we were but just bombarded and hit with uh just so many things like every single month.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: I mean we ended up we we started a home renovation I had waited 10 years to like change the paint color of my walls and so you know the timing and we had just started home renovation at the end of um January and so we had you know it's only supposed to be you know like a few weeks long or whatever and so we moved in with my parents um my dad is 80 and has Parkinson's and stuff and we were moved in here with them and then once COVID hit um we you know my husband was like ah you know he was seeing patients and he's like it's just it's just not good you know for us to be here with your dad and so he ended up moving out getting an apartment a one bedroom apartment in Dallas.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: So long story short we ended up following him because his one of his dear family members got sick and I just didn't feel like it was there's just so much stress.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_00: So anyway we've just had a a crazy crazy year um but it was so good as far as I just felt like it really um just even pulled me closer to the Lord because I just had to depend on him so much you know and just understanding that even though like you know month by month all these different things that were going on this did not surprise him.
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: And he's always in my future he always goes before me and he knows what's coming and he watches over us.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just saw that so many times um this year of just different things, you know different heartbreaks that you know were happening to our family and um just a lot of spiritual warfare and stuff because like I said we were getting eight languages we were getting one new language.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: So as the world was shut down love God greatly was poised to step up and really serve.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so even though everybody was home um I ended up being a in a one bedroom apartment with all three of my girls trying to homeschool trying to they had like little zoom meetings trying to work like it was just like you know insane for a while crazy.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: But still seeing the goodness of the Lord you know and stuff and so that was just even though it was a hard year it was a really um good year because I feel like it just simplified our life you know we got rid of a lot of activities and a lot of maybe unnecessary um busyness yes right it kind of it pruned our lives it did it did very much so yeah so what have you learned from 2020 that you want to take with you into 2021 yeah so I think that was the biggest thing if I think for a lot of us it revealed maybe idols that we have in our lives and stuff and it took a lot of those idols it revealed them to us and then I think we had the choice of taking down and so for me I was just really busy you know and you know I kind of was like oh you know my girls need to be involved in this we need to do this da da da da da you know and stuff and so for me 2021 I just um I just want our life to be a little bit not so busy and a little bit more simplified and um I think just I think for all of us just enjoying understanding the importance of family and friends and community and relationship um and not taking it for granted.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so I just really want to go into 21 2021 um with even just more gratitude for what we what I already have.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that's so good.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_02: I I love I think many of us are going yes me too it's a good reminder and it's it we can quickly forget what we have learned.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_02: And so I think that's why the reflection process is so important and then writing it down really meditating okay what is it that we want to take on with us into the next season what whatever lessons we learn or habits we built or rhythms that we created and what's worth keeping and um and and that takes just intention it it takes us being deliberate and making that step well I have loved all of this Janna was spot on of course your kindred spirit there's so many things that I'm like oh I'm gonna talk to you about this and this and this.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_02: But what is maybe one parting piece of wisdom or encouragement that you would give to women um whether it's about leadership or getting in the word or just sharing Jesus in whatever season that they're in.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: I just think for me at least just understanding first of all that God loves you that he sees you you know and just really you know not just understanding with your mind but truly understanding it with your heart and understanding that he you know he always promises that he is with us and I just feel like I've just for me I've experienced that um this year and then just walk your walk forward in faith you know I feel like so many things in my life like I didn't know you know I didn't know what was coming but I knew what God was calling me to I knew what he had placed in my heart and so I know it's crazy scary like I get it like I live there I've done it I live that way too um but you know we're we're challenged in Joshua 19 to be strong and courageous right and I feel like this is like our generation and generation that we're raising we need to train ourselves and our children to trust the Lord and to be strong and courageous and move forward and you know just hold to those truths that he is with us.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_00: He says it over and over again um you know throughout the Bible that he is with us you know and so for me that's just what I want to just encourage women to do also.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_02: It's so good Angela thank you thank you for sharing just bless your ministry bless you thank you and I am excited for how the Lord will continue to expand in 2021.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well thank you it was a huge honor so I so appreciate it.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: You enjoyed this conversation I pray that you feel inspired to try a new rhythm of getting in God's word every day.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_02: Of course I've linked all of Angela's information in the episode so you can see her latest resources and also give her a thank you for this conversation even though it was a few years ago next week I'm gonna share one of my favorites on the topic of worship with Katie Reed, the worship leader from Radiant Church in Kansas City and tell them I continue to pursue God's perspective, purpose and plans for your simple heart advice