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The Rita Panahi Show | 30 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scoring lives Ostrodia. This is the Wider Paney Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, and welcome to the Rita Panehy Show. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight, we examined the manifestly inadequate sentence handed to
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Speaker 2: a sexual predator who is transitioning and will be housed
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Speaker 2: in a female prison. The panel will weigh in on
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Speaker 2: that and the day's other top headlines. Victoria sees a
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Speaker 2: significant surge in carjackings as the crime crisis deepens.
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Speaker 3: I'll speak to Karlie Douglas about that. Shortly.
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Speaker 2: Kosha Gator will have the latest from the US, including
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Speaker 2: President Trump's big win against Google, and later in the hour,
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Speaker 2: Alex Stein will explain why the NFL has picked a
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Speaker 2: painfully woke artist most of their fans have never heard
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Speaker 2: of to perform at the Super Bowl. And Left Is
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Speaker 2: Losing It features Rose o'donald doing whatever this.
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Speaker 4: Is samdation.
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Speaker 3: But First.
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Speaker 2: Women's groups have expressed outrage over the extraordinary lenient sentence
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Speaker 2: given to a transgender father who sexually abused his five
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Speaker 2: year old daughter. The sex offender now calling himself Hillary Maloney,
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Speaker 2: took thirteen videos and sixty four images of himself sexually
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Speaker 2: abusing his daughter across a one month period. After agreeing
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Speaker 2: to engage in the vile acts for the sexual gratification
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Speaker 2: of American pedophile Sam Booth, he.
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Speaker 3: Called his master.
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Speaker 2: Victorian County called Judge Nola Carapana Giotis gave Maloney a
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Speaker 2: minimum jail term of just two and a half years,
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Speaker 2: ruling that because he was transitioning to becoming a woman
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Speaker 2: a trans woman, his moral culpability was reduced. Meanwhile, the
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Speaker 2: maximum jail sentence for that type of crime is twenty
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Speaker 2: five years. Victorian primagus Into Alan is already under fire
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Speaker 2: for ignoring police from women's groups to have Maloney moved
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Speaker 2: from the female prison he's currently being held into a
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Speaker 2: men's one where he belongs, and she is facing renewed
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Speaker 2: demands to review Victoria's sentencing policies. Women's rights active ast
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Speaker 2: Sal Grover told The Australian newspaper, if you set the
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Speaker 2: precedent that these horrible people could basically get lighter sentences
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Speaker 2: by making this claim, you've created the loophole for them.
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Speaker 2: And Women's Forum Australia Chief executive Rachel Wong said it
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Speaker 2: is profoundly wrong that such reasoning could be used to
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Speaker 2: excuse or soften accountability for one of the gravest crimes imaginable,
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Speaker 2: the sexual abuse of one's own child. That's bringing the
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Speaker 2: panel joining me now for more on this is News
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Speaker 2: Corps Senior writer Patrick Carlyon and research fellow at the
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Speaker 2: Institute of Public Affairs Colleen Harken. Patrick, everything I've described
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Speaker 2: in this story speaks of a deeply seek society talking
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Speaker 2: about the crime itself absolutely sickening. But what's happened since
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Speaker 2: this manifestly inadequate sentence and the fact that we've got
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Speaker 2: this male sexual predator housed in a woman's prison.
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Speaker 5: Yes, Look, this is something we've been writing about for
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Speaker 5: years in the papers. Men or people who identify as
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Speaker 5: women who are biologically male, who are sex offenders have
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Speaker 5: been put in women prisons, which is terrifying for the
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Speaker 5: other women prisoners for lots of really obvious reasons. Now,
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Speaker 5: the idea that this offender in this case got two
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Speaker 5: and a half years because this person was confused about
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Speaker 5: their agenda, it absolutely does not pass any common sense
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Speaker 5: test on any level, does it? And it really introduces
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Speaker 5: a really important issue. Are we going to have loopholes
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Speaker 5: and we're going to have sex offenders who are male,
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Speaker 5: saying I'm confused about agenda and getting shorter sentences because
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Speaker 5: of it.
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Speaker 2: Getting shorter sentences Colleen, and also the prospect of being housed.
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Speaker 3: In a women's prison, which would be.
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Speaker 2: Far more palatable for any male prisoner, but particularly if
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Speaker 2: you've got someone who's a sexual predator. They've got a
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Speaker 2: captive population there. And these women in prison often have
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Speaker 2: histories where they've been victims of violence.
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Speaker 3: Victims of sexual abuse themselves, and to have someone like
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Speaker 3: that house with them, I mean about their human rights.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a high percentage of women in prison who
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Speaker 6: have been victims of sexual abuse themselves, and that's part
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Speaker 6: of their journey is to have the ended up there
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Speaker 6: to be housed with somebody who's done that to someone else.
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Speaker 6: There is nothing more henious than sexual abuse of a
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Speaker 6: child of five year oldch other. There's nobody more in
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Speaker 6: need of protection, and a two and a half few
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Speaker 6: sentence on this is just so manifestly inadequate. The other
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Speaker 6: thing that is to be noted is that it doesn't
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Speaker 6: matter whether it's a male or a female who has
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Speaker 6: done this.
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Speaker 3: The sentence is just inadequate.
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Speaker 6: And the judges comment that they thought that the guy
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Speaker 6: was the transitioning person, wouldn't do it again unless it
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Speaker 6: was under some duress from a male Actually, definitionally means
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Speaker 6: that they're not really sure that it wouldn't happen again. Yes,
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Speaker 6: there's just no recognition of the serious, the absolute disgracefulness
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Speaker 6: of the crime and the sentence things that they're put
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Speaker 6: with it.
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Speaker 2: Never mind whether they think it's going to happen again
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Speaker 2: or not, it's already happened. How about punishing the offense.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't just be about rehabilitation or the chances of reoffending,
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Speaker 2: what about actually punishing the offense. And that seems to
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Speaker 2: have been lost in the criminal justice process, where offenders'
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Speaker 2: rights seem to be at the forefront the correct of
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Speaker 2: the people in that bureaucracy.
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Speaker 6: Especially when you see it's a two and a half
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Speaker 6: year sentence that could have had a maximum of twenty
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Speaker 6: five years. It's ten percent of what was available to astonishing.
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Speaker 2: Now let's move on to the Australian Services Union slamming
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Speaker 2: the into Alan government over the appointment of Mary Beech
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Speaker 2: City Council CEO Kathy Henderson. She's going to become the
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Speaker 2: new boss of work safe and mere accusations that while
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Speaker 2: she was with the council she breached workplace safety protocols
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Speaker 2: and failed to protect staff.
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Speaker 3: Following a drag story time event.
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Speaker 2: Of course, it was an Australian Services Union Victorian Branch
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Speaker 2: Secretary Tash Walks said, the very organization she is now
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Speaker 2: to lead found that she.
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Speaker 3: Had failed to adhere to the OHS.
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Speaker 2: Act and had to step in to override her and
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Speaker 2: protect the interests of her own staff.
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Speaker 3: Colleena.
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Speaker 2: This council we speak about at a fair bit on
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Speaker 2: this program.
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Speaker 3: It's one of the worst.
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Speaker 2: Mary Beeck counsel and Miss Anderson was there and she
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Speaker 2: signed off on a half a million dollar name change.
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Speaker 3: Used to be called Morland Council.
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Speaker 2: No one seemed to have a problem with that until
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Speaker 2: the council decided that was deeply racist. You had some
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Speaker 2: association with a Jamaican slave estate and they changed the name.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like a comedy sketch, if only nobody's laughing.
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Speaker 6: This is sort of the woke of the woke, rewarding
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Speaker 6: the woke. These roles should be about competence and independence
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Speaker 6: and obviously this is the Allen government rewarding one of
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Speaker 6: their own. As you said, she's been involved in the
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Speaker 6: millions of dollars spent on a name change toward end
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Speaker 6: and for what purpose really, And it's just Victoria. It
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Speaker 6: is an example of Victoria rotting from the inside. It
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Speaker 6: doesn't matter whether you're competent or independent. It's the Allen
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Speaker 6: government looking after their own.
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Speaker 2: And if I remember correctly, Mary Beck was in the
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Speaker 2: news just recently because they sacked a street sweeper for
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Speaker 2: questioning the merits of having these lengthy welcome to countries
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Speaker 2: acknowledgment of countries before every every meeting. And again the
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Speaker 2: court found that he was unfairly dismissed. So this is
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Speaker 2: not a council that's particularly well run from what I
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Speaker 2: can see, Patrick, But this is a big role.
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Speaker 3: We're talking about the head of work say that.
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Speaker 2: And there are all sorts of issues with work Safe
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Speaker 2: itself in this state.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, the vehements of the criticism, I think she was
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Speaker 5: described as being unfit for the role and not being
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Speaker 5: work safe, not being a place for her really struck me.
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Speaker 5: I sort of wonder as a journalist, is there more
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Speaker 5: to this story? Is there more that we don't know
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Speaker 5: because the evidence presented to sort of make those comments.
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Speaker 7: Wasn't that strong?
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Speaker 8: Yes?
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Speaker 7: And I think I suspect.
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Speaker 3: That's interesting there is.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I do wonder whether there's some sort of
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Speaker 2: Labor Party union factional wards that were not fully across.
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Speaker 2: But we're happy to hear from miss Henderson if she
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Speaker 2: wants to come on the program and put her side forward.
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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the Sydney Morning Herald's report on
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Speaker 2: the cost of Sydney's largest metro rail line project, the
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Speaker 2: Sydney Metro West.
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Speaker 3: It's said to blow out but at least two.
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Speaker 2: Billion dollars due to the skyrocketing price of building underground
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Speaker 2: train stations, and there's been all sorts of delays to
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Speaker 2: awarding major contracts. That's also caused this blowout in the budget. Patrick,
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Speaker 2: the min's Labor government was wavering on this big project.
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Speaker 2: Can labor governments anywhere deliver projects on time and on budget?
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Speaker 7: Well?
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Speaker 5: As a Victorian, as Paul Keating would say, this is
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Speaker 5: a beautiful set of numbers. You look at the Northeast
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Speaker 5: wink down here. It was originally going to cost ten
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Speaker 5: billion dollars and it was sixteen billion dollars.
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Speaker 7: Now it's twenty six million. Dollars.
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Speaker 5: That's assuming they ever finish it. On the drive through
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Speaker 5: there virtually every day. No, these things don't get done
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Speaker 5: by labor governments. And it's interesting look in New South
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Speaker 5: Wales there complaining about the blowouts. But these blowouts are
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Speaker 5: nothing like we see down here. You look at the
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Speaker 5: suburban rail loop. We just had our premier go to China.
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Speaker 5: You know, the sort of cap in hand, sort of
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Speaker 5: begging for drills and the investment in something that the
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Speaker 5: federal government refuses to invest in. Yes, and certainly a pattern.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Colleen, two billion is nothing really when you look
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Speaker 2: at the Victorian blowouts.
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Speaker 3: In these projects. So we could go through the long list.
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Speaker 2: There's the reason why Victoria has got the biggest debt
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Speaker 2: of any state.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but isn't that part of the problem that we
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Speaker 6: laugh and we say too big? And we just got
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Speaker 6: washed away because we're getting so used to these overruns
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Speaker 6: and people who don't seem to understand how to do
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Speaker 6: a project management, a business case and make sure that
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Speaker 6: budge that projects are delivered on time and in budget.
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Speaker 9: We do.
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Speaker 6: We just now we wash away billions of dollars being
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Speaker 6: wasted and because we can't see our way out of it.
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Speaker 6: We can't see people who are competent enough.
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Speaker 10: To do these jobs.
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Speaker 6: You know, Victoria and the Southern Metro Rail Loop or whatever,
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Speaker 6: the SLR, whatever it's called.
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Speaker 3: Yes, you know that is in a.
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Speaker 6: Very similar situation, no business case. Billions of dollars are
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Speaker 6: being spent and no one has oversight into actually managing
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Speaker 6: the project properly.
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Speaker 2: And it's incredible that they go over budgets so much
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Speaker 2: because they put a lot of fat in it when
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Speaker 2: they put it together us they still.
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Speaker 3: Manage to go over budget.
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Speaker 2: Now, let's go to an issue that I love discussing
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Speaker 2: on this program.
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Speaker 3: JK. Rowling.
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Speaker 2: She may be off the left, but when it comes
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Speaker 2: to the issue of women's rights, she's very sound, very
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Speaker 2: bold and brave. And the Harry Potter author has now
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Speaker 2: put Emma Watson in her place.
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Speaker 3: She played Hermione Granger. Actress.
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Speaker 2: Emma Watson said that while she disagrees with JK. Rowling's
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Speaker 2: views on transgenderism, she still appreciates.
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Speaker 3: Her contributions to her career.
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Speaker 2: Good of you, Emma to say that Jack Rowling had
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Speaker 2: quite a lengthy responses as part of it. She said,
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Speaker 2: like other people who've never experienced adult life uncushioned by
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Speaker 2: wealth and fame. Emma has so little experience of real life.
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Speaker 2: She's ignorant of how ignorant she is. I wasn't in
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Speaker 2: a multi millionaire at fourteen. I lived in poverty while
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Speaker 2: writing the book that made Emma famous. I therefore understand
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Speaker 2: from my own life experience what the trashing of women's
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Speaker 2: rights in which Emma has so enthusiastically participated means to
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Speaker 2: women and girls without her privilege.
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Speaker 3: Ouch.
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Speaker 2: That is fantastic, Patrick, I've got to say, beautifully written,
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Speaker 2: as she also accused Emma Watson of pouring petrol on
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Speaker 2: the flames of abuse she was personally suffering defending women's rights.
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Speaker 2: That's just beautiful. That is I always want to read
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Speaker 2: it again. And she did it so.
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Speaker 7: Well articulate, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: And she makes that point when Emma Watson spoke out
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Speaker 5: a few years ago that actually created major dramas in
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Speaker 5: her own life. Yet security issues, getting death threats, all
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Speaker 5: sorts of things.
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Speaker 7: Look.
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Speaker 5: As a Harry Potter fan, it makes me sad that
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Speaker 5: two of the most important people who contributed to something
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Speaker 5: so wonderful are fighting publicly about this.
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Speaker 7: But that's a massive takedown it's very articulate.
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Speaker 2: It's beautifully put and I think she's been waiting to
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Speaker 2: do this now that Emma's a young woman, She's not,
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Speaker 2: by no means a child.
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Speaker 3: She's just graduated from university. She's been working industry for
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Speaker 3: a long time.
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Speaker 2: And it's interesting that Emma Watson's kind of being a
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Speaker 2: little bit more conciliatory towards J. K Rowling because the
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Speaker 2: mood has changed. A few years ago, she felt very
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Speaker 2: comfortable putting the boots into the woman who made her famous.
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Speaker 2: But now I guess she can see that the narrative
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Speaker 2: has shifted, the cultures shifted.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder how much of this is just actually
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Speaker 6: self serving by Emma Watson's part, because, as you say,
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Speaker 6: for several years, she was incredibly ungrateful and uncollen about
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Speaker 6: jk Rowling, and to Patrick's point, J k Rowling had
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Speaker 6: death threats from the things that were being sid.
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Speaker 3: Around daily, correct daily.
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Speaker 6: And now that the trans movement is maybe not quite
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Speaker 6: so popular, I do wonder whether Emma Watson is just
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Speaker 6: sort of doing it to position herself a little bit differently.
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Speaker 6: Jk Rowling said that just because she's created a character,
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Speaker 6: Emma Watson doesn't have to agree with him that she
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Speaker 6: said for the entire life. She's entitled to her view
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Speaker 6: and to publicly express with you, But so is JK.
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Speaker 7: Rowling.
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Speaker 3: That's all power to her for doing it.
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Speaker 2: And I think she sees a fair bit of cowardice,
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Speaker 2: and the way she's kind of wavering on this issue
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Speaker 2: I think proves that cowardice. Because if you were as
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Speaker 2: strong as you were on it a few years ago,
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Speaker 2: then why have you shift your position? Or are you
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Speaker 2: just sort of reading the room and doing whatever the
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Speaker 2: culture is telling you to do? Now, before you two go,
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Speaker 2: I've got to get your opinion. This is the sort
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Speaker 2: of debates that get people going. Let's have a look
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Speaker 2: at this mid flight argument over seat space and see
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Speaker 2: where you two stand on this.
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Speaker 11: Well, not a lot of room here, right, I know
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Speaker 11: I paid for the sheep too. I paid for the
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Speaker 11: seat as loud right. So, but would you think you'd
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Speaker 11: want to be share the arm rush? Yes, we're not
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Speaker 11: sharing the US right now? Right now, you were using
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Speaker 11: the rt resting position. I'll look you to get out.
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Speaker 11: I don't even own the arm rush.
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Speaker 7: I'm not on the harm restic though.
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Speaker 11: Actually what no, I'm not Okay, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 7: I guess my fats are on their.
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Speaker 9: Own massage, So sorry, So sir, how do you think
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Speaker 9: I should tampus part?
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Speaker 3: Well, there's a way you can solve it, Patrick.
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Speaker 2: If your body mass extends to two seats, then you
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Speaker 2: pay for two seats.
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Speaker 3: The selfishness here in my mind is out of control.
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Speaker 3: Of course, it's not pleasant.
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Speaker 2: And it's not a conversation anybody would want to have.
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Speaker 2: But surely, if you know an airline seat is going
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Speaker 2: to be too small for you and you're going to
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Speaker 2: be spilling out to the neighboring seat you travel less,
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Speaker 2: you pay for two seats.
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Speaker 7: Do we need bigger seats? Do we need to pay more? No?
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Speaker 3: Because then I'm paying more and I could fit into
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Speaker 3: the seat. Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Wating to overwake people fat shame one another is always.
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Speaker 2: Going because the other guy, the bigger one, also fat
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Speaker 2: shame the smaller one is that you know you're no
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Speaker 2: waif either.
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Speaker 3: Where do you sit on this, Belleen?
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Speaker 6: No, I disagree with Patrick. I also fit into one
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Speaker 6: suit and shouldn't have to pay for two. But it
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Speaker 6: is part of this kind of scenario where there's this
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Speaker 6: fat liberation movement and even using words like fat shaming.
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Speaker 6: We've kind of moved into this situation of celebrating obesity,
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Speaker 6: and we shouldn't. I mean, we should actually be kind
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Speaker 6: to these people and tell them the truth and so
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Speaker 6: that if you are overweight it is in your best
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Speaker 6: interest to lose weight. There are associated health problems with it,
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Speaker 6: and we're not doing anyone in any favors pretending that
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Speaker 6: having to take two seats is an okay thing.
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Speaker 2: And the body positivity movement, Patrick, I've had quite a
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Speaker 2: few doctors comment on how awkward it is now to
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Speaker 2: give honest advice to their patients because yeah, they're accused
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Speaker 2: of fat shaming instead of telling them the obvious, I
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Speaker 2: would have thought. Colleen Harkin, Patrick carlyon body positivity.
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Speaker 3: Advocas, thank you for time.
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Speaker 2: Tonight now to Victoria's worsening crime crisis, and fresh figures
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Speaker 2: have revealed that carjackings are also on the rise. What
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Speaker 2: used to be a fairly rare occurrence is now happening
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Speaker 2: nine times a week. There were four hundred and eighty
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Speaker 2: seven car jackings or attempted carjackings in the year to March.
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Speaker 2: That's that thirty six percent increase on the year before.
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Speaker 2: And out of those four hundred and eighty seven incidents,
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Speaker 2: a staggering two hundred and three were aggravated, meaning the
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Speaker 2: perpetrator was armed, and police intelligence shows seventy percent of
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Speaker 2: the offenders were aged under twenty five, with most belief
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Speaker 2: to be teenagers. Let's bring in Herald Sun reporter Karlie
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Speaker 2: Douglas Carley. This is a terrifying crime for the victim,
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Speaker 2: particularly if it is aggravated. Do we know why there's
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Speaker 2: been such a steep increase in these sorts of offenses.
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Speaker 12: I think if we go back to twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 12: it's really kind of when things kicked off. So at
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Speaker 12: the time Daniel Andrews just before he's resigned his weekend
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Speaker 12: bail laws and that's reducing well, he stripped back to offenses.
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Speaker 12: One of them was breaching bail and that was because
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Speaker 12: an Indigenous woman had died in custody.
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Speaker 10: There was an investigation. They found that these laws were
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Speaker 10: discriminatory towards Aboriginal people.
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Speaker 12: But it really opened the floodgates and it meant that
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Speaker 12: all of these people, especially young offenders, could essentially get
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Speaker 12: away with continuing to commit these violent offenses.
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Speaker 10: That was also mixed though with this emergence of the.
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Speaker 12: Tobacco wars after COVID, which meant that you know, these
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Speaker 12: these crime gangs were recruiting these children or these teenagers
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Speaker 12: to go and fire bomb these tobacco stores, paying them
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Speaker 12: a couple of hundred bucks to do so, and it
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Speaker 12: really got them entrenched into our crime world here in Victoria.
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Speaker 12: Also the notoriety on social media, I mean COVID really
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Speaker 12: spurred that on.
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Speaker 2: So these kids, these teenagers are recruited in part because
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Speaker 2: the criminals know the commit justice system is going to
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Speaker 2: be pretty soft with them, and it's a cheap way
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Speaker 2: of doing business.
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Speaker 10: Oh absolutely, yes, exactly.
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Speaker 12: I mean, like I say, a few hundred bucks go
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Speaker 12: and light up a tobacco store and really they've been untraced.
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Speaker 10: You know, we've had one hundred and twenty.
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Speaker 12: Ish more than that tobacco store fire bombings and they
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Speaker 12: get away with it.
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Speaker 3: They get away with it.
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Speaker 2: That's the incentivized and it happens. Now, let's talk about
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Speaker 2: something that happened yesterday again at terrifying scenes outside of
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Speaker 2: Burke Street. More police engaged in an eleven kilometer chase
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Speaker 2: from Doncaster to Melbourne CBD as they pursued a stolen BMW.
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Speaker 2: A woman was struck by the car and taken to hospital.
19:42
Speaker 2: Witnesses were left traumatized, and one telling the Herald's sign.
19:46
Speaker 2: The offenders were covered in black clothing and had their
19:49
Speaker 2: faces covered. Four teenage boys have been charged over the incident,
19:52
Speaker 2: including a seventeen year old who has bailed to appear
19:56
Speaker 2: before a children's court at a later day. Carli, what
20:00
Speaker 2: more can you tell me about what happened here?
20:02
Speaker 3: From the scenes. I've looked at it.
20:05
Speaker 2: That's pretty lucky nobody was more seriously hurt or killed.
20:08
Speaker 10: It's terrifying.
20:09
Speaker 12: I mean, we've got these kids driving down Burke Street
20:12
Speaker 12: in this car and like you say, eleven clometer journey,
20:15
Speaker 12: so the police are a bit slow to actually get
20:17
Speaker 12: to them. I've got families out in the middle of
20:20
Speaker 12: school holidays exactly shopping.
20:21
Speaker 10: You know, obviously you're very busy shopping. Precinct. It is
20:24
Speaker 10: very lucky that no one.
20:25
Speaker 13: Else was hurt.
20:27
Speaker 2: And what they're going to now look at more ballards
20:30
Speaker 2: around the CBDs is the solution there?
20:32
Speaker 12: Well, that's what people have raised. I don't think the
20:35
Speaker 12: government is actually looking at that.
20:36
Speaker 10: The oppositions have.
20:37
Speaker 12: Said that infrastructure isn't the answer. They're obviously looking at
20:41
Speaker 12: even tougher ail laws. One of the kids that was
20:45
Speaker 12: picked up on Burke Street actually was on bailer at
20:48
Speaker 12: the time.
20:49
Speaker 10: Okay, he was bailed last week.
20:52
Speaker 12: There are new bail laws though that are actually coming
20:54
Speaker 12: in today which will create an uplift for some of
20:58
Speaker 12: those offenses. You were talking about carjackings, aggravated burglaries, so.
21:04
Speaker 3: Maybe we will be seeing type fingers crossed.
21:07
Speaker 2: It actually has an impact because so many of the measures,
21:10
Speaker 2: including their Maschetti beans, really haven't done anything meaningful to
21:14
Speaker 2: curb these crimes. Before you go, yesterday we covered an
21:19
Speaker 2: exclusive story you had in the Herald Sun where there
21:22
Speaker 2: was a proposal to introduce so called African courts. This
21:27
Speaker 2: was something that was considered designed to be similar to
21:30
Speaker 2: the Kori courts to help young African Australian offenders experience
21:35
Speaker 2: what's called cultural restorative justice.
21:38
Speaker 3: Karlie, tell me about this philosophy and how much community
21:43
Speaker 3: support doesn't have I I mean we talk about the
21:46
Speaker 3: African community. It's not just one community.
21:48
Speaker 2: There's people from different countries with entirely different worldviews.
21:54
Speaker 12: Yeah, and that's exactly the concern that's been brought up
21:56
Speaker 12: by these leaders. They say, if we were to model
21:58
Speaker 12: a sort of African court of the Corry Court, we
22:01
Speaker 12: would have to have so many different elders and community
22:03
Speaker 12: leaders from all the different African communities.
22:06
Speaker 10: Would that work? Maybe not.
22:08
Speaker 12: The idea though, was formed as part of this roundtable.
22:12
Speaker 12: This group had been given. It was a group of academics, lawyer.
22:15
Speaker 2: Rising Ly academics and lawyers coming up with stupid ideas well.
22:20
Speaker 3: I mean, I just think it is madness to even
22:23
Speaker 3: consider it. It's the complete opposite direction to where we
22:28
Speaker 3: should be going, where we hold people accountable for their
22:30
Speaker 3: actions instead of engaging in cultural restorative justice. Goodness. Meet
22:36
Speaker 3: Karlie Douglas is always a pleasure. Thank you so much
22:38
Speaker 3: for your time.
22:38
Speaker 2: Thank you Still to cat left is Losing Ed plus
22:42
Speaker 2: the latest from the US, including President Trump's big win
22:46
Speaker 2: against Google.
22:47
Speaker 3: Kosher Gator has the details.
23:00
Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Panekey Show, and it's time for
23:03
Speaker 2: Lefty is Losing It. Let's check in on actor and
23:06
Speaker 2: simpleton Mark Ruffalo, who is dazed and confused.
23:10
Speaker 3: He's not coping in Trump's America.
23:13
Speaker 9: I don't understand what's happening.
23:15
Speaker 7: Right now.
23:15
Speaker 9: My industry doesn't understand what's happening right now. But what
23:18
Speaker 9: they do understand is our freedom of speech is being attacked.
23:22
Speaker 2: Another absolute hypocrite who suddenly cares about free speech. They
23:28
Speaker 2: were cheering on their ideological opponents being silenced, being canceled
23:33
Speaker 2: and d platforms.
23:34
Speaker 3: Give me a break.
23:35
Speaker 2: Now, let's go to lefty losing at regular Rosio Donald who,
23:39
Speaker 2: despite fleeing to Ireland to escape Trump's America, does nothing
23:44
Speaker 2: but talk and think and obsess about Donald Trump. Even
23:48
Speaker 2: her therapist is wondering why she's so obsessed.
23:52
Speaker 14: What he's done yet, hasn't even hit us yet, and
23:56
Speaker 14: if he's not stopped now, we have lost our country.
24:00
Speaker 14: And I don't know, Nicole, how it is that some
24:05
Speaker 14: people cannot see it. My therapist said, why are you
24:11
Speaker 14: so upset? And I said to her, why are you not?
24:14
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I have that conversation too, because the gas
24:19
Speaker 15: lighting that I think you're alluding to, if you're a thoughtful,
24:24
Speaker 15: informed person, you do stop and say, well, maybe.
24:27
Speaker 7: It is me.
24:28
Speaker 2: Yes. Even her therapist thinks she needs to find some perspective,
24:32
Speaker 2: but not MSNBC anchor Nicole Wallace, who is matching Rosie
24:38
Speaker 2: in the loopy stakes. The only gas lighting happening there, Nicole,
24:42
Speaker 2: is that you're convincing yourself that you're thoughtful and informed.
24:46
Speaker 2: But at least when Nicole and Rosie are sharing their
24:48
Speaker 2: paranoid delusions, they're not producing content like this.
24:54
Speaker 3: Whatever this is.
24:56
Speaker 4: Said usual China Lee Guy, the majimdation.
25:20
Speaker 2: You know, the Left suffer from the delusion that if
25:22
Speaker 2: they repeat a lie often enough and they really really
25:26
Speaker 2: want it to be true, then it is. We've heard
25:29
Speaker 2: them repeat the same dangerous lies about Donald Trump for years,
25:33
Speaker 2: from the Russian collusion hoax to the Fine People hoax.
25:37
Speaker 2: Now there is another lie being put forward by failed
25:41
Speaker 2: Vice president and failed presidential candidate Kamala Harris. She keeps
25:45
Speaker 2: saying this despite it being verifiably false, and.
25:50
Speaker 13: It ended up being the closest presidential election in the
25:54
Speaker 13: twenty first century.
25:56
Speaker 2: The closest presidential election in the twenty first century. An
26:00
Speaker 2: out and out lie, Kamala She lost by eight huge margin.
26:05
Speaker 2: She not only lost the electoral College by a huge margin,
26:09
Speaker 2: she lost every swing state.
26:12
Speaker 3: She also lost the popular vote.
26:13
Speaker 2: Trump was the first Republican to win the popular vote
26:17
Speaker 2: in twenty years, but did Rachel Matter correct that obvious lie.
26:22
Speaker 3: Well, of course not, and Kamala was off to the
26:25
Speaker 3: view to repeat that same lie.
26:29
Speaker 13: It is the closest presidential race in the twenty first
26:32
Speaker 13: century in terms of the outcome.
26:37
Speaker 2: Yes, the idiot view crowd are going to clap along
26:40
Speaker 2: like trained seals to anything. But there were six highly
26:44
Speaker 2: paid view co hosts on the desk with Kamala. Not
26:48
Speaker 2: one of them corrected that outrageous lie, and, emboldened by
26:54
Speaker 2: her bold face lies being accepted as gospel, Kamala repeated
26:58
Speaker 2: that line at her old college.
27:00
Speaker 3: Here she is at Howard University.
27:04
Speaker 13: Bosist election for president of the United States in the
27:08
Speaker 13: twenty first century.
27:09
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know that's right.
27:11
Speaker 1: Howard Grad did that here, Howard Grad.
27:22
Speaker 2: Why is it that Kamala looks like she arrived straight
27:26
Speaker 2: from happy hour to that event. No academics there, no students,
27:31
Speaker 2: corrected that lie.
27:32
Speaker 3: So let's get a hot take on Kamala from her
27:35
Speaker 3: successor Jdie Vance.
27:38
Speaker 16: Because the more people know about Kamala Harris, the more
27:41
Speaker 16: they realize there's no substance there. I mean, agree or
27:44
Speaker 16: disagree with Barack Obama or Bill Clinton. They actually had substance.
27:48
Speaker 16: They could actually articulate a viewpoint. I listened to Kamala
27:51
Speaker 16: Harris for ninety seconds, and I actually feel like I've
27:54
Speaker 16: gotten dumber in the process.
27:55
Speaker 3: And I have no idea what she actually believes.
27:58
Speaker 2: Now to the deplorable elan Omar, who was doubling down
28:03
Speaker 2: on her abuse against Charlie Kirk last week, she had
28:06
Speaker 2: pledge to say, including this on CNN.
28:09
Speaker 3: That should be in the dust pen of history.
28:12
Speaker 17: And we should hopefully move on and forget the heat
28:16
Speaker 17: that he spewed every single day.
28:18
Speaker 2: Ask to apologize for those comments and other similarly unhinged
28:23
Speaker 2: and ugly commentary.
28:25
Speaker 3: This is what the anti American Democrat congresswoman had to
28:28
Speaker 3: say this time. She's with the awful Don Lemon.
28:32
Speaker 17: I have nothing that apologized for. You know it is
28:36
Speaker 17: It is a tragedy that Charlie Kirk was killed in
28:39
Speaker 17: that way. I feel for his widow and his children.
28:44
Speaker 17: They will have to live with that for the rest.
28:45
Speaker 9: Of their lives.
28:47
Speaker 3: But there is no legacy to honor.
28:49
Speaker 17: It was a legacy filled with bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy.
28:53
Speaker 17: And as a black woman and as a Muslim in
28:56
Speaker 17: this country, I refuse these crazy people can do whatever
29:00
Speaker 17: they want to do. But I am not going to
29:03
Speaker 17: be bullied into complacency, into you know, dishonoring who I
29:11
Speaker 17: am and what I stand for.
29:14
Speaker 2: Yes, she's not going to be bullied into decency or honesty.
29:19
Speaker 2: She's going to remain a race baiting radical doing harm
29:23
Speaker 2: to the country that gave her sanctuary. Let's bring in
29:26
Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Kosher geta Kosher Elanoma is going to
29:30
Speaker 2: find out the hard way that Charlie Kirk's legacy is
29:34
Speaker 2: far greater, far more consequential than anything she or her
29:39
Speaker 2: squad members are going to be achieving.
29:42
Speaker 1: I think she already knows that rita on some level,
29:45
Speaker 1: but she is unashamed, unabashed telling us exactly who she
29:49
Speaker 1: is in some strange upside down where you almost have
29:53
Speaker 1: to admire it because she's just tripling down, quadrupling down
29:56
Speaker 1: in that belief I think, you know, cynically, in the
29:59
Speaker 1: narrow world of just her retaining her seat as long
30:02
Speaker 1: as she continues to do that, and the demographics where
30:05
Speaker 1: she lives are favorable to that. And once you become
30:08
Speaker 1: an incumbent, it does get harder and harder to be unseated,
30:11
Speaker 1: though it certainly is happening more and more. Unless and
30:13
Speaker 1: until that happens, I would say that she doesn't care
30:16
Speaker 1: and she's going to continue to be true to her
30:18
Speaker 1: belief system with the no shame whatsoever. The only good
30:21
Speaker 1: news I would offer is that broadly speaking, she and
30:24
Speaker 1: her kind, whether's Jimmy Kimmel, whether it's everyone else, they
30:27
Speaker 1: are losing right now. They're losing electorally, they're losing in
30:30
Speaker 1: the court, they're losing culturally, and that is something, but
30:33
Speaker 1: they haven't lost. And while they're losing, but they haven't lost.
30:37
Speaker 1: This is actually a dangerous time and you're going to
30:38
Speaker 1: see much more I think vicious vitriol and even violence
30:41
Speaker 1: coming out, unfortunately, and that's why the right really has
30:44
Speaker 1: to fight harder against people like that.
30:48
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you mentioned Jimmy Kimmel, We've had the likes of
30:51
Speaker 2: him straight out lie about the politics of Charlie Cook's
30:55
Speaker 2: alleged assassin. Now we have John carl On Abas climbing.
31:00
Speaker 3: The murder wasn't even.
31:01
Speaker 18: Political, been senselessly celebrated by some a small minority who
31:07
Speaker 18: didn't like what Kirk stood for and thought it was
31:10
Speaker 18: somehow therefore justified celebrating or excusing violence is abhorrent. The
31:16
Speaker 18: murder of Charlie Kirk was not a political act. It
31:19
Speaker 18: was a gruesome crime.
31:22
Speaker 2: Yes, it was a gruesome crime, but it was also
31:25
Speaker 2: clearly political kosher. The motivation for the murder is not
31:29
Speaker 2: really in dispute at this point. We have the words
31:32
Speaker 2: of the alleged assassin. Why do we still have elements
31:35
Speaker 2: of the media determined to muddy the waters here?
31:41
Speaker 1: You know, I think we know why that they are losing,
31:44
Speaker 1: as we just said, on every dimension, and this is
31:47
Speaker 1: the last thing that they have to hang on to,
31:49
Speaker 1: which is, as you said in earlier segment, keep lying
31:52
Speaker 1: enough times and repeat the lie enough times, and some
31:55
Speaker 1: portion of the country and the world, unfortunately will believe
31:58
Speaker 1: it because we are in information warfare along with other
32:01
Speaker 1: types of warfare, and that's why they do it. But
32:03
Speaker 1: I do go back to that silver lining that they
32:05
Speaker 1: are losing. Ratings are down. Everything that Charlie Kirk said,
32:09
Speaker 1: all of his videos and memorial service, all of that
32:11
Speaker 1: have hundreds of millions and even aggregated up to billion views,
32:15
Speaker 1: way more than Jonathan carl will ever see or the
32:17
Speaker 1: entire network. And so that's the good news that you're
32:20
Speaker 1: in this information warfare, and they are not winning. But
32:23
Speaker 1: I think they're going to go down and keep repeating
32:26
Speaker 1: these types of comments to the bitter end.
32:30
Speaker 2: And you look at Turning Point, USA, the demand they've
32:33
Speaker 2: had for new chapters is astonishing. If they can follow
32:39
Speaker 2: through with that and establish those chapters throughout the country,
32:43
Speaker 2: the impact is so much more profound than perhaps even Charlie.
32:48
Speaker 3: Ever dreamed of.
32:49
Speaker 2: Now Kosher, the federal government maybe shut down. This happens
32:53
Speaker 2: when Congress can neither pass all twelve appropriation bills needed
32:58
Speaker 2: to fund the government nor pass a continuing resolution, and.
33:02
Speaker 3: The countdown is on. Let's hear from Vice President jd. Vance.
33:08
Speaker 19: First of all, we have to keep essential services functioning
33:10
Speaker 19: as well as possible if the Democrats shut down the government,
33:12
Speaker 19: and RUSS has been tasked with making sure that's possible.
33:15
Speaker 19: To give us about negotiations, one of the things I
33:17
Speaker 19: admired about the President, but frankly, the entire team's approach
33:20
Speaker 19: during the conversation we just had with Chuck Schumer and
33:22
Speaker 19: Hakim Jeffries was you know, yeah, they have some crazy
33:25
Speaker 19: ideas giving taxpayer money.
33:27
Speaker 20: To illegal aliens for health care. That's a crazy idea.
33:29
Speaker 19: Funding transgender surgeries in Peru.
33:31
Speaker 20: That's a crazy idea, but the hand some ideas that
33:34
Speaker 20: I actually thought were reasonable, and the hand some ideas
33:35
Speaker 20: that the President thought was reasonable. What's not reasonable is
33:38
Speaker 20: to hold those ideas as leverage and to shut down
33:42
Speaker 20: the government unless we give you everything that.
33:43
Speaker 2: You want, funding transgender surgeries in Peru and giving free
33:48
Speaker 2: healthcare to illegal immigrants. Kosha, Do you think they'll come
33:53
Speaker 2: to a deal before the Wednesday deadline?
33:58
Speaker 1: Hard to see. I think possibly this time they will,
34:01
Speaker 1: or if it goes into shutdown, it'll be a short,
34:04
Speaker 1: very short shutdown. And I think the reason why one
34:06
Speaker 1: big difference this time compared to last time, which was
34:09
Speaker 1: in Trump's first term twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, it was
34:12
Speaker 1: the longest shutdown, thirty five days, the longest in history.
34:15
Speaker 1: It came down to the border wall, and ultimately that
34:17
Speaker 1: shutdown was only averted when Trump caved and said he
34:21
Speaker 1: will not keep fighting for I think it was less
34:24
Speaker 1: than six billion dollars for the border wall and never
34:26
Speaker 1: got that money. This time, the one big, beautiful bill
34:30
Speaker 1: was passed, and what that has done is is completely
34:32
Speaker 1: legislated and funded Trump's agenda the wall enough money for
34:36
Speaker 1: mass deportations, making his tax cuts permanent, and cutting some
34:41
Speaker 1: of those aids for Medicare and SNAP and food stamps
34:43
Speaker 1: in those programs. So, actually the leverage is totally different
34:46
Speaker 1: this time. The Republicans have so much more leverage because
34:48
Speaker 1: their key agenda items cannot be held hostage the way
34:51
Speaker 1: it was last time. And because of that, I think
34:53
Speaker 1: they're going to play more hardball. And the Democrats ultimately
34:55
Speaker 1: will see that, or they already see that, and I
34:57
Speaker 1: think they probably are the ones who are going to capitulate,
35:00
Speaker 1: but time will tell.
35:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if the Democrats think
35:04
Speaker 2: there's some sort of electoral advantage in shutting down the
35:08
Speaker 2: government and prolonging this as long as they can, or
35:11
Speaker 2: whether it's actually going to hurt them more than it
35:13
Speaker 2: hurts the Trump administration now. Earlier today, the President reshared
35:18
Speaker 2: this funny post featuring Chuck Schumer and Hakeem jeffreyism telling you,
35:24
Speaker 2: I'm liking AI more and more if you can produce
35:27
Speaker 2: comedy like this.
35:28
Speaker 21: Look, guys, there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes
35:32
Speaker 21: Democrats anymore. We have no voters left because of all
35:35
Speaker 21: of our work trands bolts. Not even black people want
35:38
Speaker 21: to vote for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So
35:41
Speaker 21: we need new voters. And if we give all these
35:45
Speaker 21: illegal aliens free healthcare, we might be able to get
35:48
Speaker 21: them on our side so they can vote for us Kosher.
35:52
Speaker 2: The fact that the President is sharing content like this
35:55
Speaker 2: leads me to believe he is not terribly worried about
35:58
Speaker 2: this so called crisis.
36:00
Speaker 3: But why is this even happening? If the Republicans of both.
36:04
Speaker 2: Houses, why are they not getting their legislation.
36:08
Speaker 1: Through the main issue The wedge here is in the Senate.
36:13
Speaker 1: To avoid a filibuster or bring an end to a
36:15
Speaker 1: filibuster and invote culture, they need sixty votes and they
36:19
Speaker 1: don't have that much of the majority, so that means
36:21
Speaker 1: they seven or eight Democrats or independences that are aligned
36:23
Speaker 1: with Democrats to come over to the side. And that's
36:26
Speaker 1: I'm sure the horse training and jocking is happening behind
36:29
Speaker 1: the scenes, but I think to your point that the
36:31
Speaker 1: one the calculation the Democrats are making because they have
36:33
Speaker 1: nothing right now. They have neither chamber, they don't have
36:35
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, they don't have the White House. This
36:37
Speaker 1: is one thing they have that they can try to
36:39
Speaker 1: throw a monkey wrench into this, and they would only
36:42
Speaker 1: do that if they think it helps them electorally, and
36:45
Speaker 1: maybe they're miscalculating. I hope that they are, because videos
36:49
Speaker 1: like this one only shows that they're sort of like
36:51
Speaker 1: running a clown show. And I don't think it's planned
36:53
Speaker 1: well with the American public.
36:54
Speaker 7: But we shall see.
36:57
Speaker 2: No, but I'm sure the Democrats will get a very
36:59
Speaker 2: qush run from the media. They will paint this as
37:02
Speaker 2: just another symptom of the Trump administration being in crisis.
37:06
Speaker 2: They did that throughout the first term. This just this
37:09
Speaker 2: constant rolling crisis that it just doesn't have the impact
37:14
Speaker 2: in once hat kosher. The American electorate is not buying
37:18
Speaker 2: what the media is selling them. Now, I want to
37:21
Speaker 2: ask you about this major victory for President Trump earlier today.
37:26
Speaker 2: He took on social media platforms, has taken on media
37:30
Speaker 2: companies and even the might of Google, and he's had
37:33
Speaker 2: another win here. Google subsidiary YouTube has paid out more
37:38
Speaker 2: than twenty four million dollars to settle a lawsuit that
37:42
Speaker 2: President Trump brought against the platform for suspending his channel
37:46
Speaker 2: after the January sixth riot. This is a major victory
37:50
Speaker 2: there's another way to look at this kosher for sure.
37:54
Speaker 1: And now he is approaching ninety million dollars in such settlements.
37:58
Speaker 1: Twenty five million from YouTube right now, say, twenty five
38:01
Speaker 1: from Facebook slash Meta, fifteen million from ABC because George
38:05
Speaker 1: Dephanopolis slandered him. Really, that's what the settlement was on
38:09
Speaker 1: when it was mistating the claims from that Egen Carol case,
38:12
Speaker 1: and then CBS the balance of that. So that's nine
38:14
Speaker 1: to million. About two thirds of it is going to
38:16
Speaker 1: his presidential library and the ballroom that's going to be
38:19
Speaker 1: constructed in the White House, which is going to anger
38:22
Speaker 1: i think the left because both those things are permanent things.
38:24
Speaker 1: It will have Trump's name on it forever more in
38:26
Speaker 1: some way. And then the one there is going into
38:28
Speaker 1: his pocket. So it is a win for sure. It's
38:31
Speaker 1: part of his comeback, the greatest comeback story of all
38:34
Speaker 1: time that's continuing. These are all civil lawsuits that he's
38:38
Speaker 1: made in his personal capacity, so they're not you know,
38:40
Speaker 1: official lawsuits by the US government. Those types of things
38:43
Speaker 1: are also pending. But yeah, on it goes. He's got
38:45
Speaker 1: a few more in the pike. The Wall Street Journal,
38:47
Speaker 1: Associated Press, the Pulitzer Prize Committee. He's suing them as well,
38:51
Speaker 1: giving Politzer prizes to all those people for the Russia
38:54
Speaker 1: Gate reporting and on and on a goot. So those
38:56
Speaker 1: are going to be funny ones that I think will
38:58
Speaker 1: continue to come out in his favor.
39:01
Speaker 3: I'll tell you.
39:02
Speaker 2: Accountability is coming for everybody. And when it comes to
39:06
Speaker 2: Google and particularly YouTube, they admitted that the Biden administration
39:11
Speaker 2: pressured them to deplatform particular individuals to get rid of
39:16
Speaker 2: content that the Biden White House did not want shared.
39:20
Speaker 3: I mean, this is a real issue.
39:23
Speaker 2: We've had so many people having meltdowns about Jimmy Kimmel
39:27
Speaker 2: being off air for a couple of days.
39:29
Speaker 3: This is a real free.
39:31
Speaker 2: Speech issue, and I don't think it's got this sort
39:33
Speaker 2: of coverage it deserves. There were so many ordinary people
39:36
Speaker 2: Kosher impacted.
39:38
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that is really the point. So it's funny, fun
39:41
Speaker 1: and funny to see that accountability and having them to
39:44
Speaker 1: pay up, even though they're just settlements without apologies. But
39:47
Speaker 1: the real crux, the legal crux of it, is what
39:49
Speaker 1: you say. And if we think about what happened in
39:51
Speaker 1: the week of January sixth, they completely deplatform the sitting
39:56
Speaker 1: US president because he still was the president until January
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Speaker 1: twenty first from all of those platforms, and then some
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Speaker 1: plus individual people. They're still being reinstated till this day.
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Speaker 1: Not all of them have been reinstated. There's all sorts
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Speaker 1: of people like doctor Naomi Wolf is part of this
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Speaker 1: lawsuit today from YouTube. She's getting I think two million
40:12
Speaker 1: or so out of that because of COVID vaccine related
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Speaker 1: information that she was sharing, they suspended her. And there's
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Speaker 1: so many examples about that. So we've only scratched the surface.
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Speaker 1: The ultimate remedy for this, I do many do believe
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Speaker 1: is antitrust, which is picking up momentum that they're just
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Speaker 1: too big and the economic power of these five or
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Speaker 1: six companies is so much that it's so hard to
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Speaker 1: do anything around them. If that happens, I think only
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Speaker 1: then will you see a structural change. Otherwise it feels
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Speaker 1: like a little bit of ankle biting. You get some
40:39
Speaker 1: wins here and there, but if the other side comes
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Speaker 1: into power, which they will at some point, I would
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Speaker 1: expect to see this kind of These kinds of tactics
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Speaker 1: unfortunately continue in the future.
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Speaker 2: And Kosha, when it comes to Google, you can't overstate
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Speaker 2: their power and influence this is how people find that information.
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Speaker 2: In the modern age, that've got close to monopoly power,
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Speaker 2: and that can be a dangerous thing, can't it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is scary where they have the economic power,
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Speaker 1: but as you say, unlike an Excello Mobile or some
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Speaker 1: other company like that that's also economically very powerful their
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Speaker 1: market cap, they deal in information flow and opinion shaping
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Speaker 1: and it's only going to get even more amplified with
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Speaker 1: AI and they and all of these tech companies are
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Speaker 1: going into that where now that's further going to control
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Speaker 1: how people think and the masses think. So this is
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Speaker 1: a big deal. Antitrust again, I think is the only remedy.
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Speaker 1: And the issue is that governments in these cases are
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Speaker 1: very very slow relative to how quickly those companies can
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Speaker 1: grow and roll up the whole world and all the
41:38
Speaker 1: information in it, and that imbalance is very tough to combat.
41:42
Speaker 1: But it is picking up steam, and if it's ever
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Speaker 1: going to happen, it's going to happen in the Trump
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Speaker 1: administration some sort of anti trust case brought by the DOJ.
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Speaker 7: But we shall see.
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Speaker 3: Kosha geta thank you so much for your time still
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Speaker 3: to come.
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Speaker 2: The NFL picks a painfully work artist no one has
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Speaker 2: heard of to perform at the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Alex st Mine has the details next Welcome Back.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 2: The NFL are clearly slow learners. I think it's a
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Speaker 2: good idea to unleash on their sports loving fan base.
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Speaker 2: A hard left activist singer that most of them have
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Speaker 2: never heard of, a dude called bad Bunny, has been
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Speaker 2: given the honor of performing at the Super Bowl.
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Speaker 3: Yes, this dude, and don't worry if you don't know
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Speaker 3: his music.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're familiar with his stupidly woke brand of politics.
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Speaker 8: I'm never performing in the US again. I'm scared, scared
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Speaker 8: that I might raid the venue outside my show, and honestly,
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Speaker 8: I can risk the safety of my fans like that.
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Speaker 8: Mainland America just doesn't feel necessary.
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Speaker 7: To me anymore.
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Speaker 2: Performing in mainland America doesn't feel necessary anymore.
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Speaker 3: What does he think the Super Bowl is held?
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Speaker 8: You can come see me in Puerto Rico or catch
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Speaker 8: me in one of the other countries I'm visiting. But
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Speaker 8: I can, in good conscience keep putting you at risk
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Speaker 8: just to perform in the mainland US. I know for
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Speaker 8: a lot of people this feels like a sacrifice.
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Speaker 2: Sacrifice talk about delusions of grandeur. The only sacrifice is
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Speaker 2: the NFL's credibility and again picking talent that their audience
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Speaker 2: doesn't like, let alone revere what a silly own goal.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is a comedian and host of Prime
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Speaker 2: Time with Alex Stein on Blaze tav Alex am I
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Speaker 2: being too.
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Speaker 3: Harsh on Bad Bunny. Is this an inspired choice?
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Speaker 22: Oh my gosh, this is the laziest chort voice I've
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Speaker 22: ever seen. Nobody knows who Bad Bunny is. Literally, in America,
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Speaker 22: if you're an American, nobody has.
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Speaker 9: Heard of this guy.
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Speaker 22: I remember when he had a meal at McDonald's. It
44:08
Speaker 22: was a bad Bunny meal. I remember asking them who
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Speaker 22: is Bad Bunny and they said the same thing. They said, literally,
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Speaker 22: nobody knows who he is. So the fact that he gets,
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Speaker 22: you know, saying at the halftime show when that was
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Speaker 22: a show reserved for the greatest of all performers, people
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Speaker 22: like Michael Jackson, and now it's basically.
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Speaker 9: Become some sort of DEI talent show. So you know
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Speaker 9: it's lost its luster.
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Speaker 3: Well, why wouldn't you have some big country star.
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Speaker 2: Country is so huge at the moment, and they're selling
44:39
Speaker 2: out massive arenas and the fan base would love that.
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Speaker 2: It would be such a such a great vibe, so
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Speaker 2: pro America, great music.
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Speaker 3: It's just a win, win win.
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Speaker 2: It's an obvious option for the NFL, but they've decided
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Speaker 2: to do this again now, Alex. The were heartwarming scenes
44:58
Speaker 2: on the wakend with penste football fans sported in the
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Speaker 2: crowd wearing Charlie Kirk's Freedom T shirts. This was at
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Speaker 2: a Saturday night's game against Oregon, which was Kirk's team.
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Speaker 2: Charlie loved the Oregon team and they had a fantastic
45:15
Speaker 2: win in that game thirty twenty four over Penn State.
45:19
Speaker 2: Tell me about this ongoing tribute to Charlie. I noticed
45:25
Speaker 2: Jason al Dean has played a video before his concerts
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Speaker 2: of Charlie.
45:30
Speaker 3: We're not going to forget what happened to Charlie Kirk.
45:35
Speaker 22: Well, you know, the tragedy surrounding Charlie Kirk's death cannot
45:40
Speaker 22: really ever be understated, the ripple and the effects that
45:44
Speaker 22: it will have across time. So he's going to be
45:48
Speaker 22: immortalized and we're going to constantly be there to celebrate Charlie.
45:51
Speaker 9: It's still incredibly sad.
45:53
Speaker 22: And I saw that, you know, Turning Point had a
45:56
Speaker 22: great turnout, the hand it over five thousand T shirts
45:58
Speaker 22: and Happy Valley Pennsylvania and penn Stead ended up winning.
46:03
Speaker 22: So of course Charlie's very happy with the massive turnout
46:07
Speaker 22: when it comes to new chapters on campuses.
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Speaker 9: So overall, Turning Point has increased its reach.
46:13
Speaker 22: But it's still just such a tragedy reader, just knowing
46:16
Speaker 22: that that guy would have done so much more than
46:19
Speaker 22: Turning Point, which Turning Point is an incredible organization, but
46:22
Speaker 22: you know this guy was literally on his way to
46:23
Speaker 22: be absolutely.
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Speaker 9: It's just a tough situation. Reader.
46:29
Speaker 2: Oh, I know, and I know you two work close
46:31
Speaker 2: and it's personally very difficult for you as well.
46:35
Speaker 3: Let's talk about arian At Grande.
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Speaker 2: She's a songstress and an actress and she posted a
46:41
Speaker 2: rather controversial rant on social media attacking Trump voters. Well,
46:46
Speaker 2: the White House has responded to Arianna, and they had
46:50
Speaker 2: a fair bit to say, including this, save your tears, Arianna,
46:54
Speaker 2: because President Trump's actions ended Joe Biden's inflation crisis, and
46:59
Speaker 2: I bring in trillions in new investments, a White House
47:03
Speaker 2: spokesman said in a statement, Tell me about this rather
47:07
Speaker 2: strange feud, Alex.
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Speaker 9: It is a strange feud, but she's out for blood.
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Speaker 22: You know, she's one of Pete Davidson's exes, and if
47:16
Speaker 22: you dated Pete Davidson, he kind of creates some sort
47:19
Speaker 22: of fury inside of a woman that really it's a
47:23
Speaker 22: flame that cannot be put out or extinguished. So I
47:26
Speaker 22: wouldn't want to fight Ariana Grande if I was the
47:28
Speaker 22: Trump administration. So really this is kind of my warning
47:31
Speaker 22: to the Trump administration be careful because Ariana Grande.
47:35
Speaker 9: Is somebody not to mess with. So, you know, I
47:37
Speaker 9: do think Trump needs to watch his ps and qs.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm surprised by your your take on this.
47:44
Speaker 2: She's a very diminutive young woman. You're scared of Ariana.
47:49
Speaker 2: I'm surprised by.
47:50
Speaker 1: This, well read it.
47:52
Speaker 9: She is so thin.
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Speaker 22: I mean, she does kind of give off like a
47:55
Speaker 22: witch or black magic, and you know she played a witch.
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Speaker 9: So I just I wouldn't want to mess with Ariana Grandet.
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Speaker 22: She's probably into the occult and all of that weird
48:04
Speaker 22: Hollywood stuff. So once again, Trump has dealt with worse
48:08
Speaker 22: Ariana Grande, But me personally, I don't want any of
48:10
Speaker 22: that smoke.
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Speaker 2: You are scared of Ariana. This is information I can
48:16
Speaker 2: use now before you go. Page six has been reporting
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Speaker 2: Alex that Baron Trump, the president's youngest child, had an
48:25
Speaker 2: entire four of Trump Tower shut down for a date,
48:29
Speaker 2: obviously for security reasons. I'm telling you, Baron Trump, I
48:35
Speaker 2: think people don't understand the role he played in having
48:39
Speaker 2: President Trump reelected, the way he influenced the President to
48:46
Speaker 2: reach out to young mal voters by going on those podcasts,
48:50
Speaker 2: by going on all sorts of platforms that he otherwise
48:54
Speaker 2: wouldn't have considered.
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Speaker 7: You know, I have the.
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Speaker 22: Utmost respect for Don Junior and Eric Trump, but let's
49:00
Speaker 22: be real, I think it was Baron Trump that was
49:03
Speaker 22: the X factor in connecting President Trump with people like
49:07
Speaker 22: Aiden Ross and encouraging him to go on alternative media platforms.
49:11
Speaker 22: And no president that was running in an election would
49:13
Speaker 22: even consider. So Baron Trump is the future. And then
49:16
Speaker 22: you know, I really am not surprised that he's a
49:19
Speaker 22: romantic guy like this. His dad is a legendary, you know,
49:23
Speaker 22: romantic man from New York City, so like fatherlake Son,
49:26
Speaker 22: and I'm sure Baron.
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Speaker 9: Will have the pick of the litter.
49:28
Speaker 22: So you know, I'm excited to see who's dating that
49:32
Speaker 22: that's the next big reveal.
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Speaker 9: I want to see who she is.
49:36
Speaker 7: Well.
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine the pressure if you're eating a cast
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Speaker 2: with Baron Trump and he's blocking off an entire floor
49:44
Speaker 2: of Trump Tower.
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Speaker 3: For a date. I mean everyone has to step up
49:47
Speaker 3: their game in that setting.
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Speaker 2: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time as always,
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Speaker 2: and that's it for me.
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Speaker 3: Newsnight is up next. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow.
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Speaker 7: Night six