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Dr. Makis EXPOSES Big Pharma’s SICK Vaccine Scam—RFK Jr. Must Act NOW! · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Seth Holehouse: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. So right now, in my opinion, the most important movement happening in America is the Make America Healthy Again, the MAHA movement, which was spearheaded by RFK junior. And so as we're watching him potentially and hopefully be confirmed as the head of the HHS, there's a lot of issues that I would really hope that he's addressing very quickly. And, of course, what's in the foods is important, the pesticides, what's in the skies, those are all very important topics.
• 0:44
  But the elephant in the room are vaccines. And not just the vaccines, but the mRNA technology, especially with the recent announcements by president Trump with Larry Ellison, the founder of Oracle, building these half a trillion dollar data centers to have AI technology develop mRNA vaccines to cure your cancer before you get cancer. It's kind of wild though because according to a lot of the doctors I'm speaking with, the mRNA vaccines are what's causing the cancer and all the turbo cancer that we're seeing. And so my guest today, doctor William Mackus, who's been a hero on the front line of exposing the cancer industry and also showing how easy it is and how inexpensive it is to treat cancer, is gonna be talking about these specific issues. So we'll be going into what he hopes to see happen with RFK junior, what he thinks are the most important issues that he thinks that RFK should be spearheading on day one.
• 1:42
  But, also, we'll be talking a lot about the role of ivermectin and how this horse paste that Joe Rogan was a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist nut job for eating to help him with this COVID, according to William Maccas, is actually one of the most potent drugs for dissolving cancer tumors. And so we'll be discussing all this and more on today's show. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with doctor William Maccas. Do you keep hearing more cases of your friends and family getting a life threatening diagnosis of cancer, or perhaps it's even happened to you? Well, the unfortunate reality is that turbo cancer is now a worldwide epidemic.
• 2:19
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• 4:22
  Thank you for being here with us today.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me again.
• 4:26
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. It's been, gosh, maybe almost even a year since we've we last did a show together, and, I'm seeing you everywhere, because you are one of the the key people that I've been following in terms of the explosion of turbo cancer and and other cancers as well, but also that you're you're spearheading a lot of the alternative treatments, which have been highly successful. So congrats on what we're getting into all of this. But be as we're kinda laying out the conversation, I'd like to first start with talking about RFK junior. So if I pull up over on Twitter, so you can see here's a post from you know, because he he's getting his confirmation hearing.
• 5:04
  Here's a post from Cali Means saying astounding. Reporters at RFK hearing have prewritten negative headlines. So here's one of the headlines that he captured. RFK junior faces grilling on anti vaccine comments and animal mutilation at conference hearing. So, you know, of course, they're out to get him.
• 5:20
  So there's an update from Cali Means. Here's another thing right here saying that, you know, Ron Wyden, a Democrat, disclaimed in this the hearing that RFK junior is someone who chases money and influence wherever they lead, even if that may mean the tragic death of children and other vulnerable people. It says Wyden has received 1,500,000 from the health care industry. Imagine that. So coming from someone that is in the health care industry, but the alternative health care coming out of the communist state of Canada, What is your what are your thoughts on RFK junior?
• 5:51
  And if he gets confirmed, which we hope that he does, what are the key issues that you'd wanna see addressed?
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm a I'm a very big supporter of RFK junior, And I think he really brings hope. He brings hope to healthcare, to medicine, to research because he questions, you know, he questions things. He questions you know, some of the narratives, the propaganda. He questions, you know, where all of these three letter agencies and bureaucracies have have gone over the last, you know, decades. The influence the influences on health care in America, which is mainly driven by, large pharmaceutical companies in the pharmaceutical industry and the financial support from the pharmaceutical industry.
• 6:38
  He questions all of that. And I think, I see the same thing in Canada. You have these entrenched interests that don't serve the people. They serve the interests of the pharmaceutical industry, the pharmaceutical giants. And, you know, the vaccine industry has has become huge over the last couple of decades.
• 7:01
  And it's not just the COVID vaccines that have made, you know, Pfizer and Moderna hundreds of billions of dollars in in profits for for shareholders and and everyone who was associated with, you know, the vaccine rollout got rich in the last few years. But, you know, I mean, the entire
• 7:18
  Seth Holehouse: Look at this right. I'm sorry. This is graphic right here. Looking at 1986 to 2024. This is the CDC immunization schedule.
• 7:26
  I mean, this right here to a pharmaceutical executive is just the the cash register going ching ching ching every time that these poor children are getting all these shots.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: It's it's money in the bank and with no legal liability. And, you know, I I think of myself as as you know, I mean, I would be the the child on the left, you know, getting a couple of shots there, but I was actually ended up being the child on the right because, you know, I was an immigrant. And so when I fled communist Czechoslovakia in 1988, I came to Canada for a United Nations refugee camp, and I had to get a lot of vaccines all over again. And then I went into medicine and I had to get a lot of vaccines yet once again, I even got the experimental H1N1 swine flu vaccine in 02/2009, pressured to do so when I was in medical school. And so, but it's just, it's unbelievable.
• 8:18
  And when you look at some of the work that Children's Health Defense has done, again, spearheaded by RFK Jr, They've done incredible work exposing the vaccine industry, exposing data, you know, behind kids who've been vaccinated and how they've done over the long term. Why don't we have studies looking at how vaccinated children have done against unvaccinated children, right? You never see those studies comparing. And when Children's Health Defense has looked at that data, I presented actually at Children's Health Defense event in Arizona recently with Doctor. Peter McCullough and Doctor.
• 9:01
  Brian Hooker, the Chief Scientific Officer for Children's Health Defense. And he presented some shocking data that showed how much better unvaccinated children do compared to vaccinated children in all kinds of chronic diseases and, you know, asthma, eczema and ADHD, and even autism, which is, you know, an extremely controversial topic. And yet there's data behind that. There are control groups of unvaccinated children out there that we can look at and see how much better they're doing compared to vaccinated children through all kinds of health metrics. And yet, you know, this information is often suppressed or we're not even allowed to talk about it as physicians.
• 9:45
  And so, you know, RFK Jr. Has done so much incredible work in these areas that, you know, his his confirmation, I think, is going to be absolutely historic.
• 9:55
  Seth Holehouse: I I couldn't agree more. And so I've I've got two children. I've got a one year old and a four year old, and neither have been touched by a needle, and neither when they nor will they. And, you know, obviously, if they get an IV at some point because of a problem, you know, okay, of course, but I will never vaccinate either of them. And with my four year old, if if we look at when I take her to a public place, a public park or something, and she's interacting with other children that I'm guessing the majority of them are vaccinated, unfortunately.
• 10:23
  I just looking at her eyes, and I've tried to not be biased as a parent, but I see such a difference between her and most of the other kids. For a lot of the other kids, they have this I guess you could say it's a little more of a dopey look, you know, and even the healthy healthy children, but there's just a little bit of a glaze. Whereas, you know, my daughter June is you know, she's four. She's she's sharp. She's analyzing things.
• 10:46
  She's observing things. She's got acute, you know, very sharp sense of smell and hearing and eagle eyes, and she's just this very amazing little human being. And the sense that I have is not that she's special. It's just that that's just how God designed her. And the fact that man has to come in and, you know, going back again to this graphic, I mean, this is absolutely sane.
• 11:07
  Now see, I was born in 1986, funny enough, and I probably had a lot of those vaccines. I wonder what would I be like if I if I didn't, and thankfully, I feel like I'm a pretty pretty functioning adult that I probably have some severe ADHD and my own issues I gotta work on. But I personally, though, see such a big difference just in the children that I'm seeing. And I can't imagine if I was one of those parents that did that, you know, you know, gave my kid all these, you know, these vaccines at birth. And by two years old, the kid was having problems or these horror stories that you see going around Twitter where a parent, they take their kid for a catch up at six months old, and two days later, the child is dead.
• 11:47
  I mean, it's it's so sickening that I I hope that this is at the center of what RFK is doing.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: Exactly. You know, the the sudden infant death syndrome that, you know, is unexplained. It was unexplained when I went through medical school, in the early two thousands, and yet when you look at so many of the cases follow one of these wellness visits with a pediatrician where the child gets injected with a bunch of vaccines at once. It's tragic. I can tell you from my experience, my kids had their routine shots and I regret it.
• 12:23
  Regret it at this point. I regret not questioning it because my kids, they had issues with eczema. My son had mild asthma, and these are minor things, right? And he seems to be outgrowing the asthma as he gets older. But I wonder, and as a medically trained professional, a doctor physician who came out through the system, I went to McGill University, which is Canada's best medical school.
• 12:52
  We were trained not to question vaccines. It something you didn't even, it didn't even cross your mind. Vaccines were of course a miracle of science and medicine, and you just didn't question it at any point throughout medical school. And so I didn't question it until really the COVID-nineteen pandemic exposed a lot of problems. Now for me, I started seeing red flags once I was a young staff, a young physician, I started seeing red flags with the HPV vaccine, Gardasil.
• 13:27
  And I knew that there were cases of neurological problems, children having neurological problems after taking that vaccine. So that's where I drew the line for my kids. And I said, okay, kids are not gonna get the HPV vaccine. And then of course, when the COVID vaccine came out, I realized very, very early on, just based on the technology that that was being used, that there's a big problem here. There's a red flag here.
• 13:46
  You know, you don't use lipid nanoparticles and mRNA unless you're a stage four cancer patient. And even then, these are failed technologies that were used in cancer, or at least they attempted to use them in cancer. And yet they were gonna roll this out in healthy people and an experimental pharmaceutical product in healthy young people. Forget at the time it wasn't even children that wasn't even thought about. Huge red flags, you know, and of course I made sure to avoid the COVID-nineteen vaccines and avoid it for my kids.
• 14:17
  And yet everyone in my neighborhood, you know, lined up their kids to get vaccinated as soon as they were eligible by age. And so this is, I think vaccines, it's a huge industry driven by profit, but I think it's something that has to be very significantly questioned because of all the problems. I didn't know about the various reports and all these SIDS deaths. As I've been diving into the various reports in the last four years, I was horrified to realize, wait a minute, it's not just the COVID vaccine that's the problem here. There are so many children who die after the HPV vaccine.
• 15:03
  They suffer heart problems. They suffer premature ovarian failure. These are children, teenage children, know, teenage girls that that suffer premature ovarian failure. I mean, these are horrific things and yet, you know, we don't learn about it in medical school. We don't we're not allowed to talk about it.
• 15:21
  Physicians are not allowed to talk about it. And that's why I'm so excited about RFK Jr. Heading such an important post is that we have to talk about these things. We have to investigate these things. This has to be the health of our kids has to be a priority, not the profits of the pharmaceutical industry.
• 15:43
  Seth Holehouse: Exactly. And so of all the issues that he could be tackling is obviously we saw that the, FDA banned that the particular red dye that's been shown to, you know, cause cancer, which, you know, most of us have known about for a long time. There's, you know, a lot of other environmental issues, a lot of food toxins, but, of all the issues that you'd like to see RFK attack and and start to kinda bring forth the the real data, would you say that the vaccine this the overall vaccination issue, what is that the biggest issue you'd see, or is there anything that that's that's more important for him to be focused on?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: From my perspective, that is the biggest issue and and not just the COVID nineteen vaccines, which I believe are by far the most problematic of of the vaccines, with all the injuries and, you know, cancers, autoimmune diseases, neurological diseases. You know, there's these huge studies coming out of South Korea, you know, with millions of people showing that the vaccinated are starting to suffer cognitive impairment, early Alzheimer's and so on. You know, those studies are coming out. But, you know, the cancer is going to be a big issue now as well. So the COVID vaccines are hugely problematic, but I think the entire childhood vaccine schedule has to be looked at.
• 17:01
  And really, it's our future, right? It's our children. What's more important than our children and our future? And with the vaccine schedule that they face now, they are potentially stuck with health problems for the rest of their lives. I mean, sure, as you get older, you run up against these issues of the problems with the food.
• 17:25
  Right? And all the various glyphosate and all the various dyes in the food and the fruit loops and so on. And then Ozempic becomes an issue with obesity and all that. But the problems start early on in childhood with the vaccines and some of these you know, chronic diseases that that really millions of children, suffer with and that follow them for the rest of their lives, we gotta start there. And I think the vaccine schedule overall, I I think, for me, is is is the most important issue to tackle.
• 17:58
  Seth Holehouse: Well, if you think about it, if your number one goal is profit, and let's just say you're a drug dealer. If you if say you're selling cocaine, hypothetically, or heroin. Right? If you can get a a a kid hooked on heroin and they become an addict for the rest of their life, then you that's great. You've got a lifelong customer.
• 18:15
  And so, you know, from the pharmaceutical perspective, if you can create, you know, autoimmune autoimmune disorders or ADHD or any any kind of issue with children from the get go, that they're gonna need medication their entire lives. And, you know, from a if I had no morals at all and I only care about money, I'd say, well, that's the best business strategy possible. Right? Not to mention the the the money you get for all the childhood vaccines that are given, which I know there's I've heard, you know, discussions about that, like, what it means when a vaccine's added to that CDC childhood schedule, it is such a moneymaker for the vaccine company. But just think about the lifelong, life of of injuries that those children are now dealing with from that.
• 18:54
  It it it creates a lifelong customer.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Exactly. And and I think I've noticed the pharmaceutical industry model, for profit, recently has has really been, you know, you've got you've got the COVID vaccines, for example, and yet we had situations where before they rolled out the COVID nineteen vaccines in a particular pediatric population, they would roll out pediatric cardiac drugs or pediatric blood clot drugs, probably because they knew that the vaccines were going to cause heart problems, were going to cause blood clots, autoimmune diseases. And you look at the top 10 moneymakers in drugs. And once you get past the COVID vaccines, were in the top, you know, three or four with Pfizer and Moderna COVID nineteen vaccines, now, of course, the sales have gone off the cliff because nobody wants the toxic booster shots anymore. But you look at some of the other drugs, and it's things like blood clot medication Eliquis, for example, or cardiac medications for various kinds of cardiac injury and so on.
• 20:00
  So it's a disgusting model really that where profit from the vaccines and then you profit from the injuries caused by the vaccines. And like you said, this could follow a person for the rest of their life, where they become dependent on certain medications for the rest of their life. I'm I'm seeing thousands upon thousands of individuals who suffered blood clots after the COVID nineteen vaccines, and now they're dependent on these these, you know, anti clot drugs for the rest of their lives. It it's a sick it's a sick model. It's it's an absolutely sick business model that relies on on people getting sick, for the rest of their lives.
• 20:41
  Seth Holehouse: And so what what were your thoughts when you saw Trump bring out Larry Ellison and and Sam Altman? And, you know, Larry is talking about using AI to rapidly develop mRNA cancer vaccines within forty eight hours of them detecting whatever in your blood work. I mean, is that a good idea, or is that a bad idea? What are what are your thoughts on that?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You know, I thought I thought it was I took I took it in stride. I took it as a sort of a very humorous press conference. Now, Larry Ellison, I'm sure was serious about this $500,000,000,000 program to have AI design custom made mRNA vaccines for cancer, for example. Right? And now I'm very familiar with this technology, and of course, I'm very familiar with this explosion of cancers recently where the reason doesn't get talked about why so many young people are getting cancer.
• 21:36
  And you look at what what's happened in the last three, four years and what we have are COVID-nineteen vaccines that have a dozen mechanisms or more by which they can induce cancer. There are now dozens of publications on this, and it's a hot area of research. How are the mRNA vaccines actually creating a situation where a person ends up with these extremely aggressive cancers that are being called turbo cancers that present at stage four, where you have a 20 year old or a 30 year old young person presenting at stage four cancer, a cancer that's rapidly growing, that's resistant to chemotherapy, immunotherapy, or radiation therapy, and ultimately has an extremely poor prognosis where a person can die in a matter of months. It can die six months after diagnosis. And the doctors, the oncologists are telling you, you have several years to live.
• 22:28
  If they give you this kind of chemo or that kind of chemo and the patient dies a few months later and everyone's baffled, right? All the doctors are baffled and no one knows what's going on and yet you go into the history, you realize they've had a few Pfizer shots or Moderna shots, a few boosters, and they've had this experimental technology that ends up in the bloodstream delivering nanoparticles loaded with contaminated genetic material and dumping it into the bone marrow, dumping it into your ovaries and testes, crossing the blood brain barrier, dumping it into the brain. We've got extremely aggressive brain cancers. You know, with the discovery of mRNA in the breast milk. And we have young women now in their 20s being diagnosed with stage four breast cancer, crossing the placenta.
• 23:12
  I'm starting to see cancers in utero developing in utero in the fetus before the baby's born. I've had several cases like that that I've seen that I'd never seen in my career before. And it's starting to happen. Of course, with the vaccinated children, for example, you started to see an explosion of cancers in children. The leukemias, the lymphomas, the sarcomas, the brain cancers in some of these kids are absolutely, absolutely horrific.
• 23:40
  So this idea of that you're going to use the same technology, the mRNA technology that caused the cancer, that you're now going to put it through AI and you're going to find a cure for the cancer is absolutely ludicrous. But I know where this is coming from. This is coming from what I believe was a plan, a longer term plan, because Moderna already has this in the pipeline. This is not something that's, this is new and because Trump got elected, there's some new ideas that they're talking about. There's phase three trials of mRNA cancer vaccines that are taking place right now in Australia, in The UK.
• 24:22
  There's a partnership between Moderna and Merck. Merck, of course, used to hold the patent for ivermectin, but now they are partners with Moderna for the mRNA cancer vaccines, where they are looking to use the mRNA technology to treat cancers. And the technology itself, I've looked at the clinical trials and it looks like a complete failure. It looks like it doesn't work. What you look at and the way to know that is you look at these trials that have happened so far, the phase two trials for which they've published data, and they are combining the mRNA cancer vaccines with established treatments like Keytruda, and they're showing almost no no effect or or or ten percent improvement in, you know, long term survival or or fifteen percent improvement.
• 25:15
  Like like, these are numbers that are not impressive, even from their own studies. And this is if if you feel you can trust Moderna and their clinical trials, which we know have a lot of problems, especially with the COVID nineteen vaccines. So, yes, what they do is they'll they'll take a piece of your tumor and they will run it through AI, through this computer model where they they're looking at sequences in the tumor, a genetic code that they can then create the mRNA with. And so they'll say, oh, we'll find, you know, 34 different markers in your cancer that is unique to you. We'll find those, we'll have AI find those 34 different markers and that will create an mRNA tailored to you, and then we'll inject it back to you, and that'll stimulate your immune your own immune system to attack the cancer.
• 26:09
  Now when you look at the details of this, Frankenstein technology is it involves nine injections of mRNA and eighteen injections of Keytruda, which is actually, you know, a a drug that's approved. And that actually has some efficacy in cancer. It's a more traditional drug. So you get something like 27 injections of this stuff and it comes with a price tag of half a million dollars. And so this is the vision, right?
• 26:41
  This is what Larry Ellison and these other technocrats and and, you know, the pharmaceutical industry, this is their vision for cancer treatment in the future. It's it's completely insane. And, you know, I I I told people, I said, look, don't don't worry about this. I think Trump is know, he's putting them out in front. He's letting them present their plan and their ideas.
• 27:03
  This is their vision for us. Right? The this monstrous technology that doesn't work, but it's massively profitable for them. And I think it's just really for exposure to to expose to us the plans of of these individuals.
• 27:20
  Seth Holehouse: It's it's it's you know, when you say Frankenstein, it's like, yeah, that's what it sounds like. But it's also crazy to look at this in this you're building this half a trillion dollar data center and having these, you know, half a million dollar treatments when there's two sides that I'm seeing to this. One is, okay. How do you prevent the cancer from happening in the first place? Right?
• 27:40
  By not eating pesticide laden foods, you know, not getting all these
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: They have an mRNA vac they're gonna have an mRNA vaccine for that. And this is this is again, and I joke, but but it's true. So when you look into the literature, they talk about at least a couple of different mRNA cancer vaccines. Now there's one that will treat the tumor that you have. That's the one that Larry Ellison was talking about mainly that you'll have AI analyze the tumor that you have and then develop a vaccine quickly for you and inject you.
• 28:11
  But what he didn't talk about was that this other idea that they have of the concept of a cancer vaccine for healthy people and that you will get at your family doctor's office. I'm serious, like, and they are serious about this. So they actually want to develop an mRNA cancer vaccine as a preventative. So forget about eating healthy, exercising, you know, avoiding processed foods and and environmental exposures. They want to inject you with this mRNA technology as a preventative at the doctor's office, and they'll sell it as, Hey, listen, you young healthy person, young healthy man or woman, do you want this injection that'll protect you from cancer in the future?
• 28:56
  This is all in their literature. This is what they want. So that's why that's why I I jumped in and interrupted you there. And I said, wait. They're they're gonna have a they're they're gonna have an mRNA vaccine for that too.
• 29:08
  Seth Holehouse: Goodness. Goodness. Well, so that's one thing is obviously preventative, but then also looking at the treatments. And you mentioned ivermectin, and it just so happens that, you know, from my understanding, you run the world's largest ivermectin cancer treatment center. And so I I wanna dive into that because, you know, we saw the interview with Mel Gibson on Joe Rogan, which I did a show shortly after that where he's talking about.
• 29:31
  It is almost like he he had to whisper it quietly to Joe to Joe Rogan. It's like, oh, you know what I'm talking about. Right? The ivermectin stuff. Right?
• 29:37
  And it was this secret thing, but this is now becoming a much more mainstream discussion about ivermectin. Well, I think that's the first time it really hit the mainstream was when Joe Rogan talked about using it to help with his COVID symptoms, and he got demonized as this wacky guy eating horse paste out of a tube. And, course, they made him look so bad for it. And so, obviously, that was just using ivermectin to treat, you know, symptoms of a of a virus. Now
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 30:05
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• 31:38
  He had a non Hodgkin's lymphoma. He went through radiation chemotherapy, and and it did nothing for him. It didn't stop the tumor growth, and it and it just and it was his medical bill at the end of it was over a million dollars, right, for his his medical bill for his stay in the hospital and the treatment, but it didn't work. But when you look at ivermectin, something that you can, like, literally walk in the tractor supply and and buy for, you know, nothing. I've got a bunch of it stashed away that I went and bought at some point just to, you know, big bottles of ivermectin.
• 32:05
  And so what are you what are the re what's the what are the findings that you have with ivermectin? How are you using it? What are the success rates? And how is it working to treat cancer? Because if we can demystify this for people, this is knowledge that's very, very powerful in helping people not be so scared of that c word.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Well, I can give you a little bit of background of how this all came about. And and you're right. I I I believe I do run right now the largest based cancer clinic in the world. I've got over a thousand patients and really with hundreds of requests just pouring in. And I started this clinic in the summer of, this past summer, twenty twenty four, when I had people coming to me at my live speaking events telling me that their stage four cancers were reversing or that they were cancer free because they had read a Substack article of mine a year ago talking about ivermectin or fendbendazole or mebendazole.
• 33:03
  These are antiparasitic drugs that have been found to have activity in cancer. Then I realized, wait a minute, you know, this is there are people that are just reading my articles and yet they're being able to halt stage four cancer. I should be helping these people along. I should be monitoring them. I should be following them.
• 33:22
  Maybe I should be publishing about this. And to do that, to know these patients, you have to know their background, their history and follow them. So I started a cancer clinic in the summer. And actually one of my early patients was a gentleman in California who said, Mel Gibson's one of my closest friends. And I thought, oh, that's nice.
• 33:48
  And just I carried on, of course, he had a very advanced disease and he's done extremely well. And you forget about these things, right? Because I have so many patients and to me, every patient is important and I want to see everyone too well. And then this Mel Gibson interview comes out and I see this clip and he's talking about you know, three friends of his that had stage four cancers. And then all of them used ivermectin and funbendazole, some combination thereof, and they're and they're now cancer free.
• 34:21
  And it just it just it just hit me. I'm like, wait a minute. I've treated one of these. I've treated one of his friends. And it it just blew up.
• 34:28
  It it it just, you know, it just blew up internationally. I mean, the clip was seen last time I checked, there was at least 30,000,000 views that that clip with Joe Rogan where you know? I mean, he did a two hour interview while his house was burning down. And and he did, you know, he brought a spotlight, you know, to ivermectin and venbendazole as these medications, antiparasitic medications that are now being repurposed and being looked at as cancer drugs. How did this come about to begin with?
• 35:04
  I started my Substack at the beginning of twenty twenty three, and I started my Substack because I was actually not being allowed back on Twitter. I had been banned from Twitter for raising concerns about mRNA vaccinating children. And at the time in Canada and The United States, there was a rollout of COVID-nineteen vaccines in children five to 11 years old. And I thought, well, there's going to be an outcry from parents and this is not going to succeed. And yet, there was such a strong push that a lot of the social media platforms were banning doctors who were raising concerns about vaccinating kids.
• 35:46
  And I was banned off Twitter within five hours of putting out a post showing that the COVID vaccines had negative efficacy in kids five to 11 years old, which means COVID vaccinated children were getting sicker at at much higher rate than unvaccinated children. There was a study that had come out. I'd mentioned it. This was a peer reviewed study. I mentioned it in a post within five hours.
• 36:09
  I was locked out of my account and I was banned and I was banned for over well, it was yeah. For about a year. I was banned for about a year. This was March 2022 when they were rolling out these mRNA vaccines in kids and other doctors were being banned. Doctor.
• 36:23
  Peter McCullough was being banned, Doctor. Robert Malone. And so we were being silenced, we're being censored. And so I started my Substack really as a reaction to being banned off Twitter and and to to actually have a voice on a platform that, you know, had freedom of speech on it. This was before Elon Musk, you know, was sort of bring started bringing everybody back.
• 36:47
  And during the early days of my of my substack, I was looking into the research on ivermectin and seeing because I wanted to know, well, did ivermectin really work for COVID nineteen, or was it, you know, just a horse based that didn't work as the FDA told us? And all the research I looked at, it was very, very clear that ivermectin was very effective for COVID-nineteen. It's very effective for influenza. It works for influenza H5N1, for example, which we're being fear mongered with these days as a potential another pandemic. But there's a whole body of research about ivermectin and cancer, and I'd never seen it before.
• 37:31
  And so I was reading every article that I could find and get my hands on. And I'll give you one example. A few years ago, there was a study done in Mexico by Mexican researchers where they looked at 28 different cancer cell lines. They applied ivermectin to these 28 different cancers and all of them responded to ivermectin. Now, some of them responded more than others, but they all responded to a certain degree to Ivermectin and the most responsive were ovarian cancer, which is very difficult to treat with chemotherapy, ovarian cancer.
• 38:05
  And then of course, breast cancers, prostate cancers, and then you had, you know, lung colon and so on. There are hundreds of studies on ivermectin and cancer. In fact, if you go on PubMed and you put ivermectin and cancer, I think you get a return of something like three fifty peer reviewed studies on ivermectin and cancer. And so, and yet this whole body of research was completely ignored. So I started writing articles about it.
• 38:28
  And the more articles I wrote on my substack about ivermectin and cancer, the more questions I got from people coming back saying, well, wait a minute, you know, if if this is really so effective in preclinical studies, you know, I'm going to try it. What dose should I try? What dose should my loved one try? You know, my loved one has stage four cancer. The doctors have given up hope.
• 38:49
  They said, we have nothing left to offer you and they sent them home to die because a lot of these patients now are being sent home to die by their oncologists because the oncologists are not allowed to even suggest ivermectin as an option even when you've you've you've you've exhausted all the chemotherapy options, all the immunotherapy, and and that you they really have nothing left to offer you. And yet there's this huge body of research on various antiparasitics, ivermectin being one of them, phenbendazole being another one.
• 39:19
  Seth Holehouse: Here's one right here. Just pulled up. This is on PubMed, on, you know, NIH website. Right? Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug, and this is Exactly.
• 39:32
  2020. I'm sure that there's you mentioned there's hundreds of these things. It says right here, the abstract, ivermectin has powerful antitumor effects, including the inhibition of proliferation, metastasis, and it kinda goes on. But, basically, it's like right here. Right?
• 39:48
  So for a doctor not be able to give you ivermectin for a tumor yet, right here, the first search I did on NIH and PubMed, ivermectin has powerful antitumor effects. There's something there's something sinister going on here.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. And and it's and it's and it's literally hundreds of studies. Now, again, people will point and say, well, yeah, but they haven't done, you know, large large human trials and randomized controlled trials. That may be true. And then you have to ask, but why?
• 40:19
  Is it because it doesn't work in humans or is it because there are financial motives to not do the large studies in humans? And it's of course financially motivated because ivermectin, I believe Merck had a patent on ivermectin which expired in the 1990s. And so there was no profit to be had. And so for anyone studying ivermectin in the 2000s or 2010s, well, you're going to have to do it on your own out of pocket to study it at all because no one is funding these studies. There's no funding for these studies.
• 40:59
  And so you've got an antiparasitic drug with powerful anti tumor effects. You read it right there from one of the studies. And yet it's not being studied because there's no patent on it. No one can get rich off it. The pharmaceutical industry cannot get rich off it.
• 41:14
  And Merck which used to hold the patent on ivermectin is busy developing mRNA cancer vaccines that they can charge $500.00 per treatment as opposed to what? A few hundred dollars per treatment with ivermectin which is what it's costing you know cancer patients at this point. And so I thought okay there's there's there's something definitely here And, you know, there's another antiparasitic drug that's really fascinating, Fenbendazole. And actually, Joe Rogan ended up reading one of my articles on his show, Substack articles on on his show. This went viral a few months back.
• 41:50
  And Fenbendazole is known as a dog dewormer. It's an anti parasitic that's most commonly used in dogs. So with ivermectin, you've got the, you know, the horse dewormer, the sheep dewormer. And of course, you have FDA saying, hey, listen, you're not a cow, you're not a horse, stop taking that ivermectin, right? And with Fenben, you have this dog dewormer or dog medicine and also an anti parasitic.
• 42:14
  And yet when you look at it, has over a dozen mechanisms of action against cancer, including blocking glucose channels on cancer cells and starving the cancer from being able to use glucose as a fuel source. Or, you know, another mechanism is it stimulates the levels of P53 tumor suppressor protein. One of the things that's damaged in people who take COVID-nineteen vaccines for example. That's one of the mechanisms by which we might be seeing these these turbo cancers. And so it raises the levels of this P53 tumor suppressor protein which drives apoptosis of cancer cells.
• 42:47
  It drives the killing of cancer cells. And so you get much more efficient cancer cell killing when you have this drug on board. And it's a safe drug to use. And it was popularized by an American man from Oklahoma Joe Tippins. In 2017, Joe Tippins was given a death sentence.
• 43:03
  He was diagnosed with stage four small cell lung cancer which is one of the most aggressive cancers you can have. That's not your typical lung cancer. Small cell lung cancer is rapidly growing, notoriously resistant to chemo and his doctors effectively said, you've got stage four small cell lung cancer. We have no treatment for you. You know, they try to give him a keytruda but apparently everyone in that trial died except him.
• 43:30
  Now, what did Joe Tippins do that was different? Is he had a veterinary friend who told him about this dog dewormer called Fenbendazole, and he said, look, it was found to cure accidentally to cure tumors in mice that researchers were studying when they gave them anti parasitic to to to treat their parasites and then all the tumors that the mice had were cured and they were upset because they were trying to study those tumors in those mice and they had accidentally cured those tumors instead, right? And so his friend said, Hey, why don't you try it? It's a safe drug. And he did, and he cured his stage four small cell lung cancer, and he's still alive seven years later to talk about it.
• 44:12
  And so he popularized it. And back then, you know, what was fascinating back then is that his story made the news. It made the local news. There's still clips of it that you can find on Twitter of that local news program that lasted about three or four minutes where he got to talk about his story of how he took a dog dewormer and cured an incurable disease. What was doctors called an incurable disease.
• 44:35
  And they said, you have less than one percent chance of surviving until the next year. And he's here seven years later. He popularized Fenbendazole. The news covered it at the time. And so that's another one of these anti parasitic drugs that I looked at, started writing about.
• 44:52
  And then Joe Rogan pulled up one of my Substack articles on one of his shows. And so this whole area of cancer treatment is being called repurposed drugs. And why repurposed drugs? It's drugs that were approved for one use, in this case, anti parasitic use, but you can repurpose them for a different use for cancer, for example. Now, the feature of repurposed drugs is that they're cheap.
• 45:23
  They are cheap. They're usually off patent. Both ivermectin and fenbendazole are off patent. So there are generics you can buy. You could go right now to India Mart, buy generics and import them into The United States or Canada and use them, right?
• 45:40
  Because they're off patent, you don't need a prescription and they're cheap. They're less than a dollar a pill. And you know, repurposed drugs are cheap and yet some of them are very very effective. But the oncologists are not allowed to use them. And so I have patients from every major large cancer center in The United States.
• 46:00
  I have patients from MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, Dana Farber, Memorial Sloan Kettering in New York, every large cancer center you can think of in The United States. I have patients who have failed all the chemo, all the latest cutting edge immunotherapy that they received at these big cancer centers, failed all the treatments. I have these patients now. They've come to me. They've come looking for an option, a repurposed drug option.
• 46:30
  Why do they come to me? Because they went to their oncologist and said, hey, I wanna look into using ivermectin. Sometimes they bring a stack of literature, peer reviewed published literature from and the oncologist panics and said, no, no, no, we can't talk about that. We're not allowed to talk about that. And we were certainly not going to offer it to you.
• 46:48
  And this is the state of cancer care today is oncologists are not allowed to even talk about repurposed drugs that are effective in cancer because they're cheap, they're off patent, and they're not in the protocols that the oncologists have. And what are these protocols and guidelines to treat cancer? Well, they come from the American Cancer Society. They come from these large institutions which are almost completely funded by big pharma. So the only thing that your oncologist is allowed to offer you is expensive chemo, expensive immunotherapy, and coming soon, expensive mRNA cancer vaccines.
• 47:25
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely insane. So looking at understanding how this works, so why why is it in in terms of the how these treatments do work? Why is it that the antiparasite, whether it's finbendazole, ivermectin, why are they able to treat cancer? Are there parasites that are in the cancer cells? Or, like, what is the relationship of it just so happens to be these specific antiparasite drugs are the ones that are curing stage four cancer?
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: So this is a big unknown. I I know there's a, you know, there's a lot of theories around the link between parasites and cancer. And and some people go as far as saying, well, parasite cancer is parasites, right? Which I don't subscribe to. But I do believe that there must be some sort of a link.
• 48:15
  And because it is very unusual that there's a lot of antiparasitics that you can look at and you can find literature on cancer effectiveness in cancer. Now, when it comes to something like ivermectin, they've looked at the mechanisms. Same thing with Fenbendazole and mebendazole. Mebendazole is the FDA approved version, the human version of the dog dewormer drug that ended up costing hundreds of times more than the canine equivalent. You know, they've looked at the mechanisms.
• 48:47
  And for example, I can tell you a couple of the mechanisms for ivermectin, for example, is ivermectin targets cancer stem cells and kills cancer stem cells, inhibits them. And cancer stem cells are cancer cells that you know they're not the cells that are replicating and dividing rapidly and creating the tumors. They're the cells that sort of sit back, hang around, and when the chemo comes, the chemo kills all the rapidly dividing cells and it doesn't touch the cancer stem cells. And then these cells at some point decide to start dividing and they cause recurrence in the future. And this is one of the theories behind why your oncologist usually tells you we cannot cure your cancer.
• 49:29
  We cannot cure your pancreatic cancer. We cannot cure your stage four ovarian cancer or your stage four colon cancer, but we can give you palliative chemo. Well, what does that mean? Well, palliative chemo is chemo that won't cure the cancer, but it will, you know, keep you alive an extra year or two years, it'll buy you time. Why?
• 49:49
  Because the chemo is killing the rapidly dividing cells, but it's not touching the cancer stem cells. And the oncologists know that and they know they can't ultimately get to those cancer cells. The chemo won't get there. And so they don't have a cure for you. They can only shrink your tumors, existing tumors, but the cancer is going to come back and it's going to kill you.
• 50:10
  So most of the chemo out there is palliative. It's in very rare cases is chemo curative. And this is in certain leukemias, certain childhood leukemias and lymphomas. So these blood cancers, but solid tumors, chemo is almost always palliative and yet ivermectin will kill those cancer stem cells that chemo doesn't. And so it's nicely complementary.
• 50:34
  And another feature of ivermectin is that it can actually reverse cancer cell resistance to chemo. And so for example, in ovarian cancer, will have a situation where they'll treat you with a chemo and then the chemo stops being effective. And then they'll try another chemo and that stops being effective. And at some point they say, look, we're out of options. Well, know, what the ivermectin does is it actually acts on a molecular level to remove that resistance or reverse that resistance of that cancer cell so that cancer cell now becomes sensitive to chemo again.
• 51:10
  And so I have patients who are combining ivermectin and chemotherapy and they're having their tumors are just disappearing. The tumors are melting away and disappearing completely. I have pancreatic cancer patients who are cancer free after a combination of ivermectin and chemo because of this effect of this reversal of drug resistance. And then you get this combined approach and now you're cancer free because you were able to kill those cells. You know what that means is you turn a problem that is, turn a cancer that's not curable into a cancer that is curable, right?
• 51:48
  You go from palliative intent to curative intent. And that is something that oncologists are not doing. They're not allowed to even consider the possibility, the option of giving you a cure. Now you wonder, well, why would they cure you? Right?
• 52:06
  Because I mean, that just makes a lot of profits disappear. Like I said, there's no profit in treating you with ivermectin. You can treat a cancer patient with ivermectin as cheaply as about 60 US dollars a month. Is the you talked about liquid ivermectin earlier, know, having some liquid ivermectin around that if you use liquid ivermectin, for example, you can treat a cancer as cheaply as $60 US a month. Well, the pharmaceutical industry is not gonna be happy about that.
• 52:37
  If they're trying to make a million dollars off every cancer patient, and you were talking about your brother, every cancer patient, unfortunately is looked at by the pharmaceutical industry, by the cancer industry as money in the bank for them, as someone that they can make a million dollars off. And this is the case, you know, for every cancer patient is that this is profit driven. For them, a cancer patient is $1,000,000 in the bank. And when you look at some of these expensive cancer treatments, or the amount of cancer treatments that a patient has to go through, none of which are curative, that these treatments will not cure you. And yet they will treat you, treat you, treat you until they can't treat you anymore.
• 53:22
  And then they say, sorry, we have nothing left to offer you. This is what's going to change under RFK Jr. I believe very strongly that we have to look at curative options, regardless of whether they're profitable for the pharmaceutical industry or not. There are curative options out there. Sure, we have to study them and we have to do those human trials, but we have to fund the researchers who want to do those trials.
• 53:46
  I want to do those trials, right? I have no funding, I have no support. I'm just trying to help stage four cancer patients give them a potential for a cure. You know, I have no assistance in doing the kind of research that needs to be done. And I really think that RFK Jr.
• 54:06
  Can really shift the focus away from this profit driven industry and put the patient first. Just like with the childhood vaccines, we should put children first and children's health and well-being first and not the profits of the large vaccine makers. We should do the same thing with cancer. We should put the cancer patient first, regardless of whether it's profitable for big pharma or not. And I think we have a chance to finally do that.
• 54:35
  Seth Holehouse: I I certainly hope so. Because I can't help but think as as we're discussing this, if I only would have known. Like, my my brother passed, I think it was 02/2015, and I didn't know any of this stuff. I mean, I was just, you know, I just had no idea. I'd never come across it.
• 54:50
  And even, you know, that was, you know, a decade ago, and these discussions weren't being had. And even if I would have known you ten years ago, you wouldn't have said, hey, Seth, here's a basic ivermectin protocol. Right? This is
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I would have known. This is new information. I was doing yeah. I was doing cutting edge cancer I was doing cutting edge cancer research, you know, in at a big cancer center here in Canada. I was publishing now, I was focused on targeted radiation.
• 55:14
  How do we deliver radiation to cancer, but in a targeted way where attacking just the cancer cell and you're not irradiating healthy tissues, right? And that was my focus of my research, but I didn't know about repurposed drugs. I didn't know about ivermectin. I didn't know about Fenbendazole, Mebendazole. And yet this research was already there.
• 55:33
  The preclinical studies were already there. I never learned about it. I didn't know about it. And oncologists, I can tell you when I have patients come to me from these large cancer centers and some of them say, look, I told my oncologist, hey, what about ivermectin? And the oncologist either panics and says, no, no, no, no, no, don't take that horse medicine because it's going to, you know, destroy your liver or destroy your kidneys, which is a complete lie.
• 55:58
  These are these are these these are safer than your Tylenol, than your Advil. You know, ivermectin has a hundred times fewer safety reports, I believe, than than Tylenol. And and so, you know, the safety profile is very, very favorable. And yet the oncologists will either say that they had they've never heard about it, or they'll throw throw out some lie like, oh, no. Don't do that.
• 56:21
  That's that's dangerous. That's that's dangerous. Right? Here's chemo that will literally destroy your bone marrow and destroy your healthy cells and may give you a few months of extra life. No, no, that's safe and effective.
• 56:33
  But ivermectin and horse paste, heaven forbid, you you take that and God knows what might happen. You might actually cure your cancer and cost the pharmaceutical industry a million dollars, right? So, they don't know. The oncologists don't know. And what's shocking is that, you know, there's a lot of things I don't know, but I'm willing to learn.
• 56:51
  And I've been willing to learn over the last few years about ivermectin and these repurposed drugs. These oncologists, they don't know and they don't want to know. They don't want to learn. There's no interest there and there's no attempt to learn about this. And I think part of it is because the culture is so toxic.
• 57:13
  The culture in oncology is so toxic is there is no creative thought. There is no, hey, how can we offer this patient a cure in this incurable cancer, this stage four, stage four pancreatic cancer is supposed to be incurable. I have patients who are now cancer free. I have a cholangiocarcinoma patient who was told in the spring, by the summer, you'll be dead. And she comes to me, she comes to one of my live events about a year later after she was supposed to be dead.
• 57:45
  And she says, hey, know, Doctor. MacKus, I'm alive because of you. And I said, What are you talking about? She's like, Oh, sent you an email and you sent back some two lines saying, Hey, look at ivermectin and fenbenoazole and this. And she took some on her own and she's alive a year later.
• 58:01
  And then I took her on as a cancer patient. A few months later, she was cancer free. Her oncologist told her you'd be dead by summer. Next year, she's declared cancer free. Right?
• 58:11
  And yet, the oncologist, she can go back to the oncologist. The oncologist won't even ask the questions. How are you, you know, still alive? Why are you still alive? What are you taking?
• 58:20
  The oncologist doesn't wanna know. They don't care.
• 58:24
  Seth Holehouse: Wow. Which is why these conversations are so important and why your substack, which I'll pull up again, Macus MD. It's mamakismd.Substack.com. This information is so important because not it's not about, say, going against big pharma or anything. It's just about doing what it takes to make sure that we can live.
• 58:48
  Because I look at the the the massive hole left in my life from not having my brother and my best friend. I'm thinking, gosh, he'd be raising kids next to me. He'd be doing there's this big hole there that would have been filled by him if I would've you know, obviously, God has his own arrangements, and and I and I trust that. So I I don't look back with this immense regret, but I just think, gosh, how many people have lost loved ones because they didn't have this information. So I I thank you, like, with with such a sincere graciousness.
• 59:19
  I thank you for doing what you're doing and and getting this information out. And I encourage anyone who's watched this interview to share this information because we have to get this information out because there are people dying every single day. There are people that are contracting new forms of cancer. They're having cancer come back, with all the medication, all the m m r a stuff that's going on. So we have to get this information out.
• 59:40
  And again, thank you for doing what you're doing to do that because this is so important for the future of our human race.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I appreciate you having me on. And one last thing I just wanted to mention, is that one of the many things that I love about RFK Jr. Is that, really wants to change things for the better. He wants to change the culture of medicine and science and so on.
• 1:00:06
  And one of these potential changes, he talked about this fairly recently, is that medications that patients use in The United States should be manufactured in The United States. Of course, with all the, you know, all the safety measures, quality control measures, and so on. And when it comes to something like, you know, ivermectin, fambendazole, mebendazole, these are repurposed drugs that patients are having to smuggle into United States from the manufacturing countries like India, which manufactures most of the generic drugs. And patients are and I've had to do this myself. For my family, I've had to do it for some of my cancer patients is I I have to put in an order Cause people always ask me, what's a good source for ivermectin in The United States, Doctor.
• 1:00:51
  Maccas? Well, I can't give you one, or if I give you one, it's 10 times or 100 times more expensive than what you can find in these pharmacies in India, for example. And so patients have to place orders in these pharmacies in India. And then sometimes their package gets confiscated by customs and customs opens it. And you know what they do?
• 1:01:11
  They say, well, you can't have this. We're gonna send it back or we're going to confiscate this. And so, it's almost this communism style situation where in communist countries, have to smuggle in drugs from Western countries, basic drugs like antibiotics, and they were sold on the black market. And that is the situation we have with ivermectin. Doctor.
• 1:01:35
  Mary Bowden, the Texas doctor who stood up against vaccine mandates and talked about the dangers of the vaccines and was also persecuted for it by her medical board, by the Texas medical board. She put out a poll recently on Twitter and she asked people, where do you get your ivermectin in The United States? And over 50% of people said tractor supply. This is ivermectin paste, veterinary paste that people go to tractor supply to get to treat various conditions, but to also treat cancer. That's unacceptable for a country like United States.
• 1:02:10
  United States should lead in repurposed drugs. It should lead in drug manufacturing. It should lead in availability of safe drugs for cancer or various things. You know, I mean, some of these something like ivermectin should be lit available over the counter. It should be available over the counter.
• 1:02:32
  It's got a safety record of four decades, over four billion doses given, an extremely favorable side effect profile with, you know, with minimal side effects. And yet Americans are having to order these generic drugs in India, having to smuggle them into The United States, hope that it doesn't get intercepted by, you know, an overzealous, customs agent. And this is the situation we're at right now. So RFK Jr. Has said, listen, we got to make these drugs in The United States.
• 1:03:08
  And I think that's another thing that, you know, he he could he could spearhead in his position. I I I hope, you know, he gets confirmed. I believe that he has, you know, the the votes needed to be confirmed. And and we are looking from other countries like Canada, Communist Canada, you know, we're looking with a lot of hope and optimism to The United States to lead us, you know, out of this dark age of medicine and, you know, just the pharmaceutical industry doing everything for profit, to to an age where we can actually put patients first and do what's best for the patient.
• 1:03:46
  Seth Holehouse: Well, it's kinda crazy. I just had a conversation yesterday with doctor Orlando Silva, who's also someone that was, you know, from Cuba, so fled a communist country, came to America, then and became he was an oncologist, and, you know, he became, he then realized, oh my gosh, the medical system has become communist. And he was telling me it's actually a funny story that a lot of times when he gives someone a script for ivermectin to go in and get it, they won't give it to them. And so what he started doing is he would call in the script, and he'd say, look. My patient has a parasite infestation, and I'm worried that, like, make sure they're in and out quickly because it's spreading quickly.
• 1:04:20
  And he'll tell the patient to go into the, you know, CVS or Walgreens and be itching and act really nervous as they're getting their script. And he says sometimes the the pharmacist will run it out to the car, like, and quickly give it to them and run back because they're so scared. And so, like but those are these are the tactics that he's having to resort to to enable people to actually even go into their CVS and get a doctor's script for ivermectin. It's it's crazy.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. And and but but these are the tactics that people used used in communist countries. Right? And he's familiar with these things where you have to, you know, you have to lie and you have to be creative about it. And like I said, in, you know, in communist countries, people have to sneak things in and and, you know, trade it and sell it on the black market and so on.
• 1:05:03
  I think The United States has to lead the world in exploring repurposed drugs, researching repurposed drugs and making them available for cancer patients because we have a huge explosion of cancer. I believe a lot of these cancers are turbo cancers. I see them in young people who've had COVID nineteen vaccines. They were mandated COVID nineteen vaccines. So there's there's been, you know, mandates that are behind this this cancer wave.
• 1:05:30
  And we have to make these repurposed drugs. We have to make them in The United States. We have to make them available over the counter. Ivermectin, Fenbendazole, Mebendazole, whatever the antiparasitic or whatever the drug may be that has uses, you know, it should be made in The United States, and it should be made available.
• 1:05:47
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. I agree. Well, doctor Maccas, thank you again. It's such a a pleasure speaking with you, and I'll bring up just one last time your Substack. I highly encourage people to go there, sign up.
• 1:05:58
  I think I've got a paid subscription for you. It's a way of supporting, which you can do. Also, it's the information's out there for free. And aside from your Substack is how can folks get ahold of you if someone has cancer and they're concerned and they want to have you help them? How can they do that?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: Well, people can reach out to me at my email, macusw79@yahoo.com. I've been extremely busy, especially since the Mel Gibson interview. My email has just exploded. But, you know, I've I've got I've got some help. And so, you know, if you've got a, you know, a really bad situation, you can feel free to reach out to me.
• 1:06:35
  And people can also follow me, on Twitter at Macus MD and, of course, my Substack, Macus MD dot Substack dot com.
• 1:06:42
  Seth Holehouse: And so the email can you repeat your email one more time for folks?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: Macusw79@Yahoo.com. And be very careful because there are now over a dozen scammers on on Facebook, on WhatsApp. They're stealing my picture. They're using my picture. They're trying to get people to give them money.
• 1:07:02
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  I have only one email address, and that's macusw79@yahoo.com.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me. I appreciate it.
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