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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, May 18 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time, Drick, Ashlyn Sullo Sounds, John
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Speaker 1: Oceans and Bryan Sexty. Next Jags Drive Time. It starts
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Speaker 1: right now. Welcome in Jaguar's Drive Time looking mini camp
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Speaker 1: in the books, and I laugh every time I see
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Speaker 1: that ending shot of just the hair blowing in the breeze.
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Speaker 1: It just is the perfect way to end Trevor Lawrence's
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Speaker 1: first weekend as an official Jacksonville Jaguar on the field.
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Speaker 1: And we will talk all about it right here on
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Speaker 1: Jaggs Drive Time. I'm here with Brian Sexton and John Osier.
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Speaker 1: What a surprise we're all here together in person on
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Speaker 1: the desk. You guys look so different in person. It
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Speaker 1: is funny how you we had this routine because we've
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Speaker 1: been doing this for a couple of years and then
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden it changed and you kind of
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Speaker 1: get used to that. I know, I kind of get
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Speaker 1: used to walking up the stairs, not fighting any traffic
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Speaker 1: to get to my office, clicking it on. Hey, can
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Speaker 1: you hear me? Can you hear me? My big thing
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Speaker 1: was the slippers. I will miss not being able to
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Speaker 1: wear slippers in the stadium. Slippers right now, that's not allowed.
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Speaker 1: That is against the rules. All right, guys, we're doing
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Speaker 1: mini camp in the books, and it was a small
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Speaker 1: rookie class. So we did our best to try to
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Speaker 1: see what was happening at practice. And like we said,
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Speaker 1: it's football in pajamas. We didn't learn much, but it
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Speaker 1: was cool to see Urban Meyer's first practice as an
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Speaker 1: NFL head coach, you know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: bleed into a big thing one here just a little bit.
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Speaker 1: You felt it. I mean you saw it, but you
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Speaker 1: felt it. At the same time, there was a different aura,
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Speaker 1: if that's the right word, atmosphere, if you choose to
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Speaker 1: the practice field, not to not to be overly dramatic,
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Speaker 1: but it was different. Yeah, and and you would expect it.
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Speaker 1: I'm very anxious. After Saturday's practice, Irban Meyers sort of
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Speaker 1: went out of his way to say this was not
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Speaker 1: like a real Jaguars practice. They had to back the
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Speaker 1: tempo off a little bit because a couple of guys
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Speaker 1: had pulled up what you expected a rookie MANI caamp
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Speaker 1: on Friday, and he said, a Jaguars practice starts next week.
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Speaker 1: So I think what we're saying is if that wasn't
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Speaker 1: a Jaguars practice. Once you see them really going, once
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Speaker 1: you see and going full tempo. Uh, the word is,
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Speaker 1: that's how he practices. It's it, it's all out. He
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Speaker 1: wants speed. He wants them to play fast, which isn't
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Speaker 1: necessarily mean forties, but mean going for the ball. You
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Speaker 1: would anticipate the practices reflect that. And uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: so next week at O t S and the one
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Speaker 1: we get to see that's what we're watching dive interally
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Speaker 1: because I've got I've got some some distinct thoughts on
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Speaker 1: the cold, got some things to say, all right, Like
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Speaker 1: we said, big thing one is culture. We've seen the
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Speaker 1: shift in the building and we've heard coach Meyer talk
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Speaker 1: about it. But last week it was our first chance
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Speaker 1: to actually see this culture change on the field, and
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Speaker 1: it was Trevor Lawrence's first practice as an official Jacksonville Jaguar.
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Speaker 1: And expectations are very clear, but never you know, the
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Speaker 1: mindset never changes. You're always expecting to win and you
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Speaker 1: prepare to win. So I think that's why they brought
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Speaker 1: me here. They didn't bring me here to expect to lose.
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Speaker 1: And I know we've got a lot of guys here
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Speaker 1: that are that are ready to win and want to win. So, um,
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Speaker 1: we're we're on the right track for sure. All right, now,
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Speaker 1: we go to another big headline over the weekend and
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Speaker 1: we're going to call its fake news because it is
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Speaker 1: the hoop law that is Travis E t N getting
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Speaker 1: reps at wide receiver and the backlash I guess you
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Speaker 1: can say of what came from it. So let's hear
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Speaker 1: straight from the source what coach Meyer said after practice
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Speaker 1: about Travis E t ns multiple rules. If you saw
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Speaker 1: Travis was getting most of his reps today at wide receiver, Um,
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Speaker 1: we're trying. You know, he's the leading rushier in a
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Speaker 1: SEC history, so for him to run inside zone and
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Speaker 1: power and zone. Right now, we thought, let's just at
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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, you have a running back with
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Speaker 1: skill set of a wide receiver. Best case scenario, you
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Speaker 1: have a hybrid player that can do both. And that's
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Speaker 1: what we're hoping to develop out of Travis. And finally,
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Speaker 1: big thing three is some home runs. We're seeing some
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Speaker 1: potential with these draft picks on the field, and if
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Speaker 1: it plays out and they reached the potential we think
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Speaker 1: they could make, it is a home run because you're
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Speaker 1: getting so much value for where they were drafted. Walker
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Speaker 1: Little is a great example of this. Well, we just
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Speaker 1: believe he was. He would have been a first rounder
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Speaker 1: had he been never had that knee injury. At one
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Speaker 1: point he was one of the top tackles in the
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Speaker 1: country and and that was really hard because you never
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Speaker 1: saw him ntil they got here. You know, you just
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Speaker 1: don't know what their legs look like, et cetera. And
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Speaker 1: then when he got here, are you like, it's pretty
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Speaker 1: good for three and thirty pound man. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: go back up to big thing one that is our
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Speaker 1: biggest thought is how different this practice has looked. And
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Speaker 1: I will say there was only I think eighteen guys
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Speaker 1: on the field. But the biggest difference I noticed guys
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Speaker 1: is there was zero standing around. There was no wasted time.
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Speaker 1: Water breaks were time. They were letting know that there
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Speaker 1: was ten seconds left in that water break. It was
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Speaker 1: planned out to the second. And people might get the
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Speaker 1: impression that it was frenetic because they wanted to use
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Speaker 1: every single second, But you know, that was my distinct
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Speaker 1: thought that was called yeah. I mean, they moved with
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Speaker 1: purpose and everything had its outcome designed right. They went
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Speaker 1: on the field and practiced this last week. The coaches
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Speaker 1: did right. They wanted to make sure that they made
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Speaker 1: the most of their time. But it wasn't it wasn't crazy,
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Speaker 1: it wasn't frantic. There wasn't a lot of yelling. And
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Speaker 1: that was where I came away with it. The culture
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Speaker 1: had shifted already because there's an expectation we're building a
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Speaker 1: winning program here, because that's what Urban had done at
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. You know, not that they didn't have a
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Speaker 1: winning win before, but Ohio State and at Florida, and
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Speaker 1: here comes Trevor Lawrence and Travis at and all they've
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Speaker 1: known is success right in their stops, and it's almost
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Speaker 1: the expectation. John, Yeah, this is what we do to
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Speaker 1: win because this is what we've always done. Well, it's
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Speaker 1: our chance to see it. We've heard this message already
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Speaker 1: from Urban when he's talked about everything needs to be elite.
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Speaker 1: If it's not elite, then why isn't it elite? Um
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Speaker 1: when you talked about the facilities, when he talked about
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Speaker 1: the strength or the sports performance program. Now we've sort
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Speaker 1: of seen a tangible example of it, and you know
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Speaker 1: it's a i U. I tend not to go overboard
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Speaker 1: about a rookie camp practice. But we saw this weekend
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Speaker 1: what they're going to want to try to do in
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Speaker 1: the way it's going to be structured. Again, I anticipate
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Speaker 1: learning much more about this during O T A S.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if training camp will be quite as uh.
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Speaker 1: I guess there might be a longer water break there
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Speaker 1: in training camp. It was nice out there on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: It was, but it's uh, you know, I don't overplay it,
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Speaker 1: but you can certainly see examples of how they're going
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Speaker 1: to be organized and how they're going to try to
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Speaker 1: be efficient. Yeah, it was more so. We heard Coach
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Speaker 1: Meyer always say that I expect a lot out of
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Speaker 1: my coaches, and I want my coaches to be at
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Speaker 1: the highest level and even within only being for example,
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Speaker 1: George Warhop there were only two offensive linemen in these drills,
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Speaker 1: but he is hands on right in these drills, you know,
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Speaker 1: expecting a tongue amping them up. It was just it
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Speaker 1: was different. You could tell that Coach Mars expecting a
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Speaker 1: ton out of these guys and they're living up to
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Speaker 1: it well. And John's right, you know, you don't want
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Speaker 1: to take too much away, you don't want to read
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Speaker 1: too much into a rookie mini camp with eighteen guys,
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Speaker 1: So you know, talking about the big picture things, the
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Speaker 1: cultural things, but you could look and see the intensity
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Speaker 1: with which the practices are going to be conducted. Even
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Speaker 1: it's just a microcosm, it's just a little glimpse of it.
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Speaker 1: But imagine when you have everyone on the field at
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Speaker 1: the same time, the entire team. It'll be completely different. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so let's go to the drama. We're going to call
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Speaker 1: it of Travis E. T N And we go back
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Speaker 1: when Travis Etnce drafted and Coach Meyer came to the
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Speaker 1: podium and he said, we're going to use him as
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Speaker 1: an offensive weapon. We didn't draft him just to be
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Speaker 1: a running back. So now for key mini camp also
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Speaker 1: noted that Trevor Lawrence cannot do handoffs right now, so
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Speaker 1: we never saw anything wrong with it. Apparently the country does,
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Speaker 1: and he's getting all this backlash forward and we really
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Speaker 1: can't figure out why I got it. Okay, handle it. Look,
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Speaker 1: you know I do. I answer questions every day on
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Speaker 1: this team in the other zone. So for ten years
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Speaker 1: with a losing team, for the most part, you get
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Speaker 1: some controversies and you get some ridiculousness This is off
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Speaker 1: the charts to me. The fact that people are trying
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Speaker 1: to use this and I get people want to criticize
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. That's the thing. He's a polarizing figure to
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Speaker 1: the national NFL media is looking for a way to say, oh,
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Speaker 1: this guy's a college coach. You don't know what he's doing.
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Speaker 1: From the time they drafted E. T. M. They said
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Speaker 1: he was going to be a wide receiver slash running back.
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Speaker 1: He even used the word slash. Secondly, when they drafted him, Uh,
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Speaker 1: the Saturday of the draft, Urban went so far as
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Speaker 1: to say, may not have drafted him if he had
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Speaker 1: been just a running back. They see this guy as
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Speaker 1: a weapon. When would you have proposed that he start
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Speaker 1: running wide receiver routes Halloween, put on a mask and
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Speaker 1: do it Thanksgiving? I mean, it's this the time Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence wasn't handing off. And as he said, sometimes with
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Speaker 1: Urban he'll start in an answer and he'll say a
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Speaker 1: glimpse and he doesn't finish the thought, so it doesn't
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Speaker 1: get written that way. But he said it on this
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Speaker 1: on this sound bite inside draws how are running and
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Speaker 1: he didn't finish it. But I think what he was
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Speaker 1: gonna say, was why would we bother having him work
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Speaker 1: on that during this rookie camp. There's no contact, you're
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Speaker 1: not gonna learn anything about it. Let him work at
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Speaker 1: wide receiver where he's not his experience. It was completely
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Speaker 1: logical that they do that, and she lenn get off
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Speaker 1: my lawn. I thought I knew I thought I knew you,
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Speaker 1: and then I just noticed you. You're an iron man.
10:39
Speaker 1: I had never seen those before, all those gasses. You
10:46
Speaker 1: think you know somebody you're sitting next to him all
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Speaker 1: these years, and then you realize they are an iron man.
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Speaker 1: I've got this one too. Um, happiness doesn't trend, right.
10:55
Speaker 1: I mean, we could all agree that it's really not
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Speaker 1: that big of a deal that you've got an offensive
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Speaker 1: player who has the capability to do more than just
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Speaker 1: take the hand off. So you're going to figure out
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Speaker 1: how to use him. Everyone, even the people who are
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Speaker 1: on ESPN before we went on the air, they all
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Speaker 1: know this. But if we're if everyone's agreeing right, if
11:16
Speaker 1: there isn't one person it was Teddy Bruski who's just
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Speaker 1: crucifying the decision. You're thinking, why the decision, but its
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Speaker 1: being interpreted that he's moving without not moving, But we
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Speaker 1: drafted him with the idea that they were going to
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Speaker 1: use him in particular way. Teddy Bruski doesn't know what
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Speaker 1: that way is. I guess my point is is that
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Speaker 1: Twitter doesn't work without conflict, and so we invent these conflicts.
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Speaker 1: The one about the quarterback, turn tight end about this.
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Speaker 1: All of those are conflict. But it drives in anotherwise
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Speaker 1: slow time of year. It drives the NFL machine through
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Speaker 1: social media and gets it there. But it's just who cares.
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Speaker 1: Whatever they're doing right now, they're doing because they've got
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Speaker 1: a plan to try to make it work, and I
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Speaker 1: don't see any conflict with it at all. Let's see
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Speaker 1: what happens when the season starts. Then you can have
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Speaker 1: some legitimate arguments about it. And if the season starts,
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Speaker 1: when they when he use running back, you know what
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Speaker 1: they'll say, Hey, get behind the quarterback where you've been
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Speaker 1: all your life and there really good. He's the all
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Speaker 1: time leading rusher in a CC history. Oh gosh, alright,
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Speaker 1: I just it's just had a big video about a
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Speaker 1: walker little Yes. I was going to mention the happiness.
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Speaker 1: This is a happiness transition right here. It really is,
12:32
Speaker 1: because you know the Dragon Wars. Throughout the years, john
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Speaker 1: have tried to find a replacement for Tony Boselli. And
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Speaker 1: I mean remember Mike Pearson. They drafted from the University
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Speaker 1: of Florida, where you were already gone. You were in
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Speaker 1: Indianapolis at the time. And and just over and over
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Speaker 1: and over Calif Barnes in UH in two thousand five.
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Speaker 1: I mean, they were who's the next great left tackle?
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Speaker 1: And Cam Robinson at one point was thought to be
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Speaker 1: that guy. Um I saw him on Saturday, and again
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at him from a potential and point because
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Speaker 1: he wasn't holding off pass rushers, but just he's got
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Speaker 1: the body for it. He was made to be a
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Speaker 1: left tackle. If you look at Trevor Lawrence and say
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Speaker 1: that guy is a quarterback, you look at Walker Little
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Speaker 1: and go, that guy's a left tackle. He hit the
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Speaker 1: bags and it would bang, and from twenty yards away
13:16
Speaker 1: you could hear him with the heavy hands that urban
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Speaker 1: Meyer mentioned in there. Uh, Jeff Lockhaman was talking, and
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Speaker 1: he could get down and get his get so deep
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Speaker 1: in the stance which six ft seven guys struggle with.
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Speaker 1: Right then he could put his butt on the ground
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Speaker 1: and still pivot his Torso and a guy like lock
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Speaker 1: human looks and goes, Okay, if I'm a pass rusher
13:34
Speaker 1: looking at that kind of flexibility, I know there are
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Speaker 1: some moves that I can't make on this guy because
13:39
Speaker 1: he's got rare physical traits. Again, you didn't see him
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Speaker 1: lining up against Josh Allen, but you didn't need to
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Speaker 1: to say that's probably the first guy they've had that
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Speaker 1: would qualify to replace Tony Boselli. Yeah, it was very impressive,
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Speaker 1: and we had someone tell us that you could hear
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Speaker 1: his hands hitting the bag from off the field. Definitely
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Speaker 1: an aggressive guy. So we're looking forward to seeing more
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Speaker 1: from Walker a little, but he's not the only one.
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Speaker 1: Real quick Jo We didn't see Ja, but you could
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Speaker 1: see him when he walked through the hallway. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: there are, um there are some really promising young players
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Speaker 1: on this team, and excited to see them as they
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Speaker 1: integrate with the But they drafted blue chip so they're
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Speaker 1: going to look impressive right now and there's no reason
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Speaker 1: to think that they won't play well on the field.
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Speaker 1: This is what they drafted. They drafted guys who you
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Speaker 1: can easily project being very good. Absolutely, O t a
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Speaker 1: start next week, so we'll be able to see them
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Speaker 1: To get here, to become a pro, it was always
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Speaker 1: about repetition. We've done whatever we've done a million times.
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Speaker 1: So to get him out there and practice and practice
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Speaker 1: them exclusively at the running at the receiver position, I'm
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Speaker 1: okay with it because running back comes naturally to him.
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Speaker 1: That position for me, has always been instinctive ten percent
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Speaker 1: of of learning the assignment and protecting the quarterback. So
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Speaker 1: he will never lose that. So line him up that
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Speaker 1: receiver is just going to make him a better player overall.
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Speaker 1: Running back great Fred Taylor talking Travis Syatian at the
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Speaker 1: Jay Fund. Thanks to Me O'Brien for that video and John,
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Speaker 1: it's like he listened to you. That's running back kind
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Speaker 1: of sort of comes natural, and it's okay for the
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Speaker 1: smart man, and it's there you've been run this league
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Speaker 1: at all. As he said, running back is instinctive position.
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Speaker 1: I don't say it's easy to learn, but out of
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Speaker 1: all the positions, it's the one that everybody said for years,
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Speaker 1: even these guys who are tweeting the criticism you come in.
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Speaker 1: If you can run, you can run. There's some pass
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Speaker 1: walking to learn, your scheme, stuff to learn. For the
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Speaker 1: most part, how many rookies making impact running back many
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Speaker 1: many many? How many do it wide receiver many fewer
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Speaker 1: until recently. So if there's a tricky part of his transition,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be the receiver position. Well, remember now,
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Speaker 1: and people know what the name Percy Harvin from Florida,
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Speaker 1: and Curtis Samuel was the guy at Ohio State, and
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Speaker 1: Paris Warren was the guy at you tah Me um
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Speaker 1: Urban said on Saturday afternoon. You know, we've always had
18:19
Speaker 1: this guy, this guy that can do multiple things. And
18:23
Speaker 1: because I guess I followed kmpsas city because my family
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Speaker 1: is from there, I kind of see him being used
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Speaker 1: like Tyree Hill was. Now Tyreek is all pro receiver,
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Speaker 1: but you know, they lined him up in the backfield,
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Speaker 1: they put it, they flexed him in the tight end position,
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Speaker 1: they put him in the slot. I mean, they did
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Speaker 1: all kinds of things because his speed was so dangerous.
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Speaker 1: They made the defense account for him to get mismatches.
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Speaker 1: That's the name of the game. You lined him up
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Speaker 1: in multiple spots and get him against the linebacker or
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Speaker 1: against a big safety. You're gonna create some mismatches. That's
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Speaker 1: what he is. He's an offensive mismatch waiting to happen.
18:55
Speaker 1: I'm worked up against. I mean, if this was Leviscus chal,
19:02
Speaker 1: people loved it, and Trevor Lawrence's right arm had fallen
19:05
Speaker 1: off during for rookie camp, right and he couldn't throw.
19:11
Speaker 1: The point being, if Trevor Lawrence couldn't throw, would anybody
19:14
Speaker 1: have wanted levisc she running routes? You put him behind
19:18
Speaker 1: center and let him work at running back a little bit,
19:20
Speaker 1: because that's what you know. Trevor Lawrence couldn't hand off
19:24
Speaker 1: this weekend, so why would you work on it and
19:28
Speaker 1: running back to stand around stand around programs and programs.
19:32
Speaker 1: Just a couple of media guys out there, it's it's
19:34
Speaker 1: it's absurd. It's another way to get a great player
19:36
Speaker 1: on the field, and as many ways that you can
19:38
Speaker 1: have James Robinson and Travis at t N on the
19:41
Speaker 1: field at the same time, I think that's a wise
19:44
Speaker 1: course of action to pursue. All Right, let's go around
19:47
Speaker 1: the league. Lots of things going on in the NFL
19:49
Speaker 1: right now and we will go to Green Bay to
19:51
Speaker 1: look at this Packers quarterback situation. It gets even better
19:55
Speaker 1: with the Aaron Rodgers. I'm just going to call it drama.
19:57
Speaker 1: It's a lot up in the air about what's coming
19:59
Speaker 1: this season. And they go ahead and they sign Blake Bortles,
20:03
Speaker 1: and the Packers head coach says this in a press conference, saying,
20:07
Speaker 1: the man led him to an a f C championship.
20:10
Speaker 1: I know he gets to play. And we look at
20:12
Speaker 1: this connection with Green Bay's offensive corney and the Hackett
20:15
Speaker 1: and it's very clear why this happened. So we're curious
20:19
Speaker 1: to see how this shakes out. I don't think they're
20:20
Speaker 1: going to trade Aaron Rodgers, but this quarterback room is
20:23
Speaker 1: something right now. Yeah, Boards is a tough guy, but
20:28
Speaker 1: he'll go up there and execute the offense that Nate
20:30
Speaker 1: Hackett has until Aaron Rodgers returns. And at some point,
20:34
Speaker 1: if they're desperate to have Aaron Rodgers back, which is
20:36
Speaker 1: what Matt Lafleur said, we want him back in the
20:39
Speaker 1: worst way, well, the worst way. It means we'll have
20:41
Speaker 1: to pay you whatever we have to pay you, and
20:42
Speaker 1: they will, but you could do a lot worse than
20:45
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles as your backup. Yeah, well, especially with Nate.
20:48
Speaker 1: I mean I got to know Nate a lot while
20:51
Speaker 1: he was here. Great guy. He got a lot out
20:53
Speaker 1: of Blake Bortles when things were going right and when
20:56
Speaker 1: things are going wrong. It didn't work out, you assume
21:00
Speaker 1: him that a lot is going to go right in
21:01
Speaker 1: Green Bay around that if Blake would play. Uh in
21:05
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, he put Blake in a lot of
21:07
Speaker 1: good situations to succeed. Knew what he could do, knew
21:10
Speaker 1: what he couldn't do. So uh if if if there's
21:13
Speaker 1: a place where Blake can produce, it would be with
21:17
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett as the offensive coordinator. So we'll see what happens.
21:20
Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on that situation. And we now
21:22
Speaker 1: go to O. T. A. S As a whole. Yesterday
21:25
Speaker 1: was the first day of voluntary offseason workouts here in Jacksonville,
21:29
Speaker 1: and we were hearing all throughout the off season of
21:31
Speaker 1: how many players were going to report, and there was
21:33
Speaker 1: all this drama between the NFL p A and at
21:36
Speaker 1: least here in JACKSONO. We've been told there's over seventy
21:39
Speaker 1: players here present participating in really around the league. The
21:43
Speaker 1: numbers are pretty high, and I think it's kind of
21:45
Speaker 1: surprising because I think some of us didn't expect that. Well,
21:48
Speaker 1: I don't know how surprising it is, because you know,
21:50
Speaker 1: the guys who make those comfortable contracts that give them
21:54
Speaker 1: real security are a minority in this day and age
21:58
Speaker 1: of the league. The v majority are guys who have
22:01
Speaker 1: to fight to keep their job and to keep the
22:04
Speaker 1: million and a half or two million dollar salary. So
22:06
Speaker 1: those are the guys that came out overwhelmingly when the
22:08
Speaker 1: last cb A was was up for a vote amongst
22:11
Speaker 1: the players and voted for this. They wanted the chance
22:15
Speaker 1: to be in and working. It's important for most of
22:18
Speaker 1: these guys, and they know their careers are short. They
22:21
Speaker 1: have to maximize it. Not everyone to Fred Taylor or
22:24
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, who have at the outset of their career
22:28
Speaker 1: many many many years in front of them. So it
22:30
Speaker 1: doesn't really surprise me that Denver saw seventy players are
22:33
Speaker 1: that they have met really good numbers here because there,
22:36
Speaker 1: you know, John, you know the guys who are down
22:38
Speaker 1: there are the guys who are fighting to keep their jobs. A. J.
22:41
Speaker 1: Cann is a great example because I'm walking in the
22:43
Speaker 1: other day. Every year we move him out for someone else,
22:45
Speaker 1: and every year he does enough to keep his job. Well,
22:48
Speaker 1: he has to be here doing that. He can't sit idle. Well.
22:51
Speaker 1: The reality is it's always been a case where younger
22:59
Speaker 1: players show up in mass for O t A s.
23:03
Speaker 1: Usually you get very very high attendance when there's a
23:07
Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator, new defense with a new head coach,
23:10
Speaker 1: and then there are some outliers where a program has
23:14
Speaker 1: been in place for a while. Of course Tom Brady
23:16
Speaker 1: didn't go to t AS when he was in New England.
23:18
Speaker 1: He knew the offense alright, veterans who know it, veterans
23:23
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen Ramsey to be here, didn't come here. Well,
23:26
Speaker 1: he's he's a cornerback who's playing man most of the time.
23:30
Speaker 1: How much is he going to get out of that?
23:32
Speaker 1: But the linebacker who needs to learn how to call
23:35
Speaker 1: the defense and needs to know where things fit was
23:37
Speaker 1: usually here, So you know, I think it was Peter
23:41
Speaker 1: King on his podcast this week said he's following the story,
23:46
Speaker 1: but it's really a very very low issue in the league.
23:48
Speaker 1: It's the issue we're all talking about now because it's May.
23:52
Speaker 1: I don't know that this is going to be a
23:53
Speaker 1: huge issue long term because I think it's gonna play like, well,
23:56
Speaker 1: but you have JC Treader, right, the Brown starting center
24:00
Speaker 1: who we said that, but then everybody showed up this
24:02
Speaker 1: No, no no, I totally agree. But but so, but the
24:04
Speaker 1: point that he's trying to make is there didn't used
24:06
Speaker 1: to be O T A s when when we were kids.
24:08
Speaker 1: Roger Staubucks sold tires in the off season, right, Matt Robinson,
24:12
Speaker 1: my first broadcast partner, went back from New York to
24:15
Speaker 1: Virginia and roofed houses. Okay, I mean that, So these
24:19
Speaker 1: guys used to work then Jimmy Johnson and the salaries rose,
24:22
Speaker 1: and so when Jimmy Johnson comes in, he goes, hey,
24:24
Speaker 1: look why aren't we doing some work in the off season.
24:26
Speaker 1: And so he's the guy who opened the door to
24:29
Speaker 1: the off season, and like a lot of things, you know,
24:31
Speaker 1: you open it a little bit at an inch crack,
24:34
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's it's wide open.
24:36
Speaker 1: And try to made the point that when he was
24:37
Speaker 1: a young player, they were so physical in the O
24:40
Speaker 1: T S that he broke his leg and missed his
24:41
Speaker 1: rookie season. So I do think they're trying to just
24:45
Speaker 1: pull it back a little bit. But I think the
24:48
Speaker 1: counter would be then you had far more physical training
24:54
Speaker 1: camp practice. You're talking about, right, that's when Jimmy nearly
24:59
Speaker 1: nine ninety one we stud in Steven's point and watch
25:02
Speaker 1: them hit three times a day. No, no no, I know.
25:04
Speaker 1: So they're changing it around. If you're going to change that,
25:08
Speaker 1: you've got to practice somehow. Agree and Tony down jem
25:10
Speaker 1: as the Colts always used to say, Look, you're not
25:13
Speaker 1: doing as much in training camp anymore. If you're not
25:15
Speaker 1: gonna do in the training camp, you need to get
25:16
Speaker 1: the mental work in at some point. Don't disagree, And
25:19
Speaker 1: then that's the key word. The mental work in what
25:21
Speaker 1: they're trying to pull back is on some of the
25:23
Speaker 1: overly physical stuff when you're not in pads. And I
25:26
Speaker 1: do think, especially going to a seventeenth game this year,
25:29
Speaker 1: the players have a little bit of leverage to be
25:31
Speaker 1: able to say, hey, look what the Colts did. Did
25:33
Speaker 1: you see Colts negotiated with the union John And they're
25:36
Speaker 1: practicing this weekend next and then they're canceling everything in June.
25:39
Speaker 1: They want these two weeks on the field, so there
25:42
Speaker 1: is some room for negotiation and I'm I'm not saying
25:44
Speaker 1: it's a blockbuster story, but it's going to be interesting
25:47
Speaker 1: to watch to see as we go forward what the
25:50
Speaker 1: off season becomes well and as a whole. Numbers are
25:53
Speaker 1: high here in Jacksonville, a lot of players here wanting
25:55
Speaker 1: to be a part of this new installation for head
25:57
Speaker 1: coach Urban Meyer. So when we come, we're gonna meet
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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Greatness is really hard, really hard. And
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28:28
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28:30
Speaker 1: very few people get to that point. And you're gonna
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Speaker 1: quick lightning round, all right? Whose favorite food is Copeyes?
29:40
Speaker 1: We're looking at the draft class here, so you have
29:44
Speaker 1: a few options. Whose favorite food is Popeyes? A lot
29:50
Speaker 1: of these guys are in shape, so I'm not sure
29:52
Speaker 1: how they're eating all these Popeyes. Brian has also kept
29:56
Speaker 1: my dolphin from last weeks. Um, So Popeyes is sort
30:02
Speaker 1: of a Southern phenomenon. Correct, So I was going to
30:04
Speaker 1: go with a guy who played in the South, grew
30:06
Speaker 1: up in the South. So I went with Tyson Campbell.
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Speaker 1: All right, John, what do you think I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: with Andre Cisco? Guessing because he's been in rehab and
30:16
Speaker 1: they had a little more time on his hands to eat. Wow,
30:18
Speaker 1: you're going deep. You're both are incorrect. It is Travis
30:23
Speaker 1: eat n the Southern thing I had right, just got
30:26
Speaker 1: the wrong Southern. Yes, his favorite food is Popeyes, Louisiana thing.
30:31
Speaker 1: We got this tidbit from none other than Trevor Lawrence.
30:34
Speaker 1: Trevor said that Travis always eight Popeyes at Clemson and
30:38
Speaker 1: it is his favorite food. However, Travis did say Coach
30:40
Speaker 1: Meyer wants him in the weight room and he will
30:42
Speaker 1: stop beating Popeyes. Fair enough, It's good. All right. Here,
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Speaker 1: this out. What I do best? Who has a pet bunny? Oh?
30:55
Speaker 1: I know? Can't you just imagine these big dudes with
30:59
Speaker 1: a nice little pet bunny, not a dog, not a cat.
31:06
Speaker 1: But all right, what do we think of boys? I'm
31:10
Speaker 1: gonna go to Luke Farrell, but or a Walker little
31:13
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31:15
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31:20
Speaker 1: a bunny and not a great Dane. That's fair, That's fair. Um,
31:24
Speaker 1: I see where you went there. It's another big guy.
31:26
Speaker 1: You both are wrong again. It's j two Felly has
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Speaker 1: a pet bunny, pet that bunny? Alright, final one, Raisin,
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Speaker 1: is an impressive degree? Do you are you confident? You know?
31:55
Speaker 1: I have no idea. This is not a good outing
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Speaker 1: so far. IM gonna say jail in camp. I was
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Speaker 1: You are right? Yes, I did not? You did, Jalen King?
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Speaker 1: Do you have any He did not have a bunny? No,
32:14
Speaker 1: he just got his degree. Do you know he doesn't
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34:31
Speaker 1: is a lot of whining over urban Meyer's every move.
34:34
Speaker 1: Maybe we should let him coaches season or two then
34:37
Speaker 1: see what pans out. Well, this kind of reflects back
34:40
Speaker 1: to what we said earlier in the show, and it
34:41
Speaker 1: it's I guess I realized this was going to happen,
34:45
Speaker 1: did you when you hired urban Meyer? You know, there
34:47
Speaker 1: was so much criticism in Florida, Ohio state, and he's
34:50
Speaker 1: such a polarizing figure that it just seems like everything
34:55
Speaker 1: he does is a hot button issue. A man can't
34:59
Speaker 1: catch a brain. Yeah, And I guess the bottom line is,
35:02
Speaker 1: and I think he knows this. Back in the day
35:04
Speaker 1: when Tom Coffin was here, he kind of knew it,
35:08
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm saying to me on a couple
35:10
Speaker 1: of things, Look, no matter what happens, you gotta win.
35:13
Speaker 1: All this other stuff that people talk about It's fine,
35:16
Speaker 1: but it's periphery. And you know, I think the same
35:18
Speaker 1: thing with ern Meyer. When you've wanted a high level
35:22
Speaker 1: as he has, he gets it. He's used to being
35:26
Speaker 1: a lightning rod for things. I guess the good news
35:29
Speaker 1: is I dont think it affects him. I don't think
35:30
Speaker 1: he worries about it at all. You know, I said
35:32
Speaker 1: it when they hired him. Um And you know, with
35:35
Speaker 1: the exception of a mover too, there's really not a
35:37
Speaker 1: lot of criticize. You're taking over a one and fifteen team,
35:40
Speaker 1: You're you're going through a complete rebuild. There's nothing in
35:44
Speaker 1: his in his background that is professional in nature in
35:48
Speaker 1: terms of pro football, right because he came from the
35:50
Speaker 1: college ranks. What are you gonna criticize? You have to
35:52
Speaker 1: wait to see what he does with this team, not
35:54
Speaker 1: just in the first month of the season, but the
35:56
Speaker 1: first two or three years. I think, not that he
35:58
Speaker 1: doesn't deserve some criticism if they lose a game here
36:01
Speaker 1: or there, but you know what I mean, he's in
36:03
Speaker 1: the building phase of the first off season. You really
36:06
Speaker 1: have to dive deep to find something to criticize. The
36:09
Speaker 1: only things that have been criticized are the things that
36:11
Speaker 1: are sort of unconvened, like the E T N thing
36:14
Speaker 1: is kind of new to the league in a way.
36:16
Speaker 1: So we got criticized for the Christel thing. Well, okay, okay,
36:20
Speaker 1: but that was legit. I guess with E. T N thing,
36:27
Speaker 1: if he'd come in and not done it, then you're
36:32
Speaker 1: wasting resources. And what's the He was going to take
36:36
Speaker 1: a little bit of a new approach on certain things.
36:39
Speaker 1: He'd been to the college. He'd been at the college level.
36:42
Speaker 1: You know, this is innovative, and I guess when you're
36:45
Speaker 1: trying to be innovative, you're gonna get criticized for it.
36:47
Speaker 1: So yeah, let it, let it, let let it breathe
36:51
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, just real quick. For Jeremy,
36:53
Speaker 1: I used to live in Omahabraska. I wonder if Big
36:56
Speaker 1: Fred's pizza is still the best pizza in Omaha, Braska.
37:00
Speaker 1: We can ask him if you're listening, Freds Well, that's
37:03
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37:06
Speaker 1: He got the good question this week. He didn't if
37:09
Speaker 1: there's still Big Fred and Sandy Jeremy. It was an
37:11
Speaker 1: a It was an amplified show, a lot of emotion,
37:15
Speaker 1: an amplified, emotional show all about Travis Etienne. We'll calm
37:19
Speaker 1: down next week. We've got to cover We don't have
37:20
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