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World War 3 Has Begun | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: My name is Jim. This is gilm Warfare The Battle
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  Speaker 1: of Ideas. James Patrick. Thank you for joining me in
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  Speaker 1: the Drengers again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for having me again.
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  Speaker 1: We were just chatting a moment ago about your travels
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  Speaker 1: and I was just looking on the map. Now the
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  Speaker 1: US is a massive, massive country.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Last weekend I was in Salt Lake City with the
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  Speaker 3: Mormons Mormon land in stayed two blocks from the temple,
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  Speaker 3: which is kind of interesting going on touring that meeting Mormons.
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  Speaker 3: And now today I'm in Miami. A friend of mine
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  Speaker 3: is on her deathbed, so just spending four days with her.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, go back to the to Salt Dake City things.
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  Speaker 1: So is the Mormon population They're very big.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I looked it up.
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  Speaker 3: It said it's sixty sixty five percent of Utah it's Mormon,
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  Speaker 3: but only thirty percent of practicing. But yeah, there's this guy,
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  Speaker 3: Joseph Smith, and he said he got some tablets out
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  Speaker 3: of an Indian mound in the eighteen twenty seven I
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  Speaker 3: think it was, and then he eighteen thirty three he
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  Speaker 3: claimed the John the Baptist came to him. And it's
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  Speaker 3: quite a I mean it's quite a whole thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and then they really are really religious. Howard Hughes used
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  Speaker 3: to only hire Mormons because they're so honest. They're very
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  Speaker 3: honest people, So whatever their beliefs, I think they're they're
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  Speaker 3: they're quite honest and upright. So the place looked totally clean.
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  Speaker 3: I'd never been out there. It was like the city
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  Speaker 3: was like a grid and totally clean. Although there was
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  Speaker 3: a gay festival there, so that wasn't super awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I'm guessing the gay festival wouldn't have been supported by
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  Speaker 1: the Mormons.
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  Speaker 3: Now, by the traditional Mormons, you know, but like they're
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  Speaker 3: under attack like everybody, right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy too, it's easy to dunk on
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  Speaker 1: the Mormons. But I have a feeling that they've vaccine
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  Speaker 1: uptake was probably quite low.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I asked some of them there and they were saying
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  Speaker 3: that I think the church didn't force people to do it,
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  Speaker 3: and they left their individual choice, so there is some
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  Speaker 3: kind of I noticed that talking with some of them,
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  Speaker 3: there was like a theme of voluntaryness to their faith.
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  Speaker 3: I think they don't baptize until the kid is eight
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  Speaker 3: years old because they want the kid to have more
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  Speaker 3: agency over doing it or out and then there was
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  Speaker 3: also they want them to go out of missions and
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  Speaker 3: then kind of decide whether they want to be in
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  Speaker 3: the group. But it was kind of a strange traditions.
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  Speaker 3: They come into the temple I did the tours, and
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  Speaker 3: they like actually changed their clothes to this white garb.
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  Speaker 3: They have all these white outfits, and then they go
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  Speaker 3: in these temples. There's just like baptism room where they
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  Speaker 3: baptize their ancestors as they think that they should be
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  Speaker 3: saved retroactively post humaneously. And then there's this room where
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  Speaker 3: they all pray and have this like personal connection with
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  Speaker 3: God where they're like making promises to God that I like,
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  Speaker 3: I want to give me. I'm going to be really
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  Speaker 3: committed to the to being a good person, and in exchange,
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  Speaker 3: God will help me with these these things I want
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  Speaker 3: done in my life. So I think this kind of
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  Speaker 3: the deep faith of their their prayers is sort of
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  Speaker 3: nice that they're it makes them more upright.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's so.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, that's what I was trying to. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's what I was alluding to, because if you if
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  Speaker 1: we're spoken about those maybe five years ago, I would
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  Speaker 1: have been very quick to you know, point and laugh.
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  Speaker 1: But the COVID years showed me that there were a
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  Speaker 1: lot of very good people, particularly in the religious community.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, I mean the the Amish, like they
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  Speaker 1: were completely ahead of the curve.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that Sugar. I was like at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, man, if s gets really bad, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just going to become an Armish.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, I don't know, James, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if you get it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's I would love to have somebody from the Amish
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  Speaker 1: community on my show, but they don't have internet. So you, James,
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  Speaker 1: this is your job. You need to go and interview
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  Speaker 1: some folks there.
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  Speaker 2: True One Corral now.
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  Speaker 3: At one time I tried to get them to make
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  Speaker 3: the how much in Pennsylvania to make hats for me,
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  Speaker 3: but they're very difficult to deal with.
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  Speaker 2: They don't really like to deal with outsiders.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a pity because they actually we can learn
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  Speaker 1: a lot from them.
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  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we can.
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  Speaker 1: I'm struggling to find a segue because I actually want
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  Speaker 1: to go into your your news film about war.
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  Speaker 3: I know it's like everyone's always like, so, what's your
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  Speaker 3: current project. I'm like World War three, and they're.
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  Speaker 2: Like, what is it?
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  Speaker 3: World War three already started, and I'm like, yes, we
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  Speaker 3: heard nicely lady topic.
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  Speaker 1: You know, but just very cool. I means as context,
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  Speaker 1: I came across Planet Lockdown, I think in I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: end of twenty twenty one more or less. I think
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  Speaker 1: that was the first of the kind of pushback documentaries
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  Speaker 1: that I saw. And you had done a series of interviews,
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  Speaker 1: like each interview you were putting online as sort of
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  Speaker 1: its own short.
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  Speaker 2: Or long long form interviews.
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  Speaker 3: So that's sort of my specialty is I get very
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  Speaker 3: high level people and and get a long form interview
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  Speaker 3: with them, and this this style.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of I started.
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  Speaker 3: I did this, started doing this with plenty of Lockdown.
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  Speaker 3: There's like a for posterity, you know, to give. I
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  Speaker 3: would find I see a clip of super At Bakhti
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  Speaker 3: or Kanuviakowski online and be Orvolking Voodog a shorter clip,
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  Speaker 3: and I'd be like, man, this guy is a gem.
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  Speaker 3: He's you know, let me get get a long form
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  Speaker 3: interview with him, like unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not in it. I'm not asking, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not putting my face.
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  Speaker 3: I hate this narcissistic ship that the culture of filmmakers
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  Speaker 3: and the online thing now, So I would just have
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  Speaker 3: a cinema quality interview in a very personal setting, like
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  Speaker 3: in their home or in a park. And I have
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  Speaker 3: the best microphones you can buy, like Schweps microphones or
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  Speaker 3: I looked up the leavelayer as they sell for Hollywood movies,
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  Speaker 3: a very high quality film, and recording the audio is
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  Speaker 3: really important, more and even more important for documentary. So
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  Speaker 3: then I and then I I can show you the
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  Speaker 3: mics if but they like this, they're like, so then
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  Speaker 3: I just get this really intimate interview with the subject
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  Speaker 3: and then.
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  Speaker 2: Let them talk.
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  Speaker 3: And so anyway, I'm doing that again now with World
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  Speaker 3: War three, So I got three retired German generals, like
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  Speaker 3: the top generals saying that the Ukraine war is insane,
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  Speaker 3: that this is unwinnable. In case anyone doesn't know, it's
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  Speaker 3: like a fully retarded statement to say that Ukraine can
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  Speaker 3: win against Russia. Russia's twenty eight times larger within Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: and has all the industrial base to produce weapons, whereas
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  Speaker 3: Ukraine is dependent on aid to produce a lot of
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  Speaker 3: their military stuff. There and then the only purpose is
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  Speaker 3: really just to kill off these Ukrainians. So I mean
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  Speaker 3: there's I've heard rumors black Rocks bought a third up
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  Speaker 3: a third.
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  Speaker 2: Of Ukraine up.
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  Speaker 3: So clearly this is just this game to kill kill
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  Speaker 3: people and steal their land. And anyone who supports Ukraine
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  Speaker 3: is not thinking clearly, uh, because there you have to
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  Speaker 3: look at militarily military realities. I visited Ukraine also twice
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  Speaker 3: and uh second time during Zelenski's election, and and the
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  Speaker 3: guy's a total puppet of uh who was Kolemensky put
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  Speaker 3: him in power and he's he's this Israeli Jewish Oligarko
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  Speaker 3: who run the TV channel that ran his comedy show
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  Speaker 3: that he was on, so he If anyone hasn't seen
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty funny. You can go to Netflix and watch
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  Speaker 3: Servant of the People. It's a pretty funny show. But
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  Speaker 3: Kolemensky basically has this TV His owns this channel that
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  Speaker 3: Zelensky worked for for many years, and then then he
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  Speaker 3: owned this TV show called Servant of the People where
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  Speaker 3: Zelenski uh he at that time he wasn't doing as
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  Speaker 3: much cocaine, so he looked a little thinner and like
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  Speaker 3: a little babyface guy. And now he's kind of fattened
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  Speaker 3: up with his coke usage. Alcohol, but he's he's kind
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  Speaker 3: of uh, he's that's what that does in case anyone
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  Speaker 3: doesn't know, but he but so he's basically it was
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  Speaker 3: this really cute little babyface guy and he's this high
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  Speaker 3: school teacher and it was a joke because everyone knows
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  Speaker 3: like oligarchs run ron Ukraine and da da da da.
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  Speaker 3: So he's like, but kolem Minsky's funding. The whole thing
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  Speaker 3: is it is a funny parody, so that there's all
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  Speaker 3: these oligarchs and there's these shots where they're like having
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  Speaker 3: lunch with Caviaar and they're like, oh, so this babyface
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  Speaker 3: high school teacher basically is caught by a student in
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  Speaker 3: the hallway ranting Zelensky about the corruption of politics, and
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  Speaker 3: the student posts it online and then posts it for
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  Speaker 3: crowdfunding for him to run for president. And so the
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  Speaker 3: whole premise of the TV show is Zelensky wakes up
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  Speaker 3: one morning and he's actually elected president and he didn't
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  Speaker 3: even know. His students just did that for him online,
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  Speaker 3: and so it's a parody about the corruption of Ukrainian
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  Speaker 3: politics where he's just like, happens to be president one
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  Speaker 3: day and he's like, I'm going to fight corruption, and
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  Speaker 3: he's this really babyface, you know, really sincere any corruption
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  Speaker 3: got candidate, which is nonsense, but anyway, so it's and
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  Speaker 3: then he gets in he's like, this is crazy. We
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  Speaker 3: should perform this, we should do that, and he's very sincere.
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  Speaker 3: But then all the oligarchs are like, oh, is this
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  Speaker 3: your guy? Hah you Oh you're being coy. Oh is
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  Speaker 3: this is your guy? Isn't it nohaha? And they're like
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  Speaker 3: teasing about it. So but so then then kole Minsky
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  Speaker 3: actually created a party of the same name as the
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  Speaker 3: TV show.
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  Speaker 2: They ran the show for a few.
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  Speaker 3: Seasons, and then they I think in the beginning of
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  Speaker 3: the third season, if my memory is correct, they actually
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  Speaker 3: created a party for called Serving of the People, the
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  Speaker 3: same name as the TV show, and then ran the
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  Speaker 3: actor Selensky as actual president in real life. And so
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  Speaker 3: I was there, like I watched the show before coming
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  Speaker 3: to Ukraine the second time, and I was there during
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  Speaker 3: the elections, and I would ask people like, what do
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  Speaker 3: you think of this?
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  Speaker 2: This?
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  Speaker 3: This seems weird, doesn't it like that this would be occurring,
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  Speaker 3: like it seems kind of scammy.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, and then the younger people under
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  Speaker 2: thirty thirty and younger, they would.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of tell me like, Oh, he's so cute, he's
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  Speaker 3: so nice, let's have him for president. I'll vote for him,
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  Speaker 3: you know, And then everyone over thirty was like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, this is such a disnational disgrace to have
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  Speaker 3: a gay Jewish comedian as the president, like actor, like
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  Speaker 3: dressing up like So it was really I saw this
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  Speaker 3: difference in age groups and their public opinion on it.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, whatever he ran, he got to be president.
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  Speaker 3: And now he's probably been the most corrupt, evil guy
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  Speaker 3: killing really just like I mean, recently Tucker interviewed one
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  Speaker 3: of his his Jewish secretaries who was speaking honestly about
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  Speaker 3: his cocaine usage and his willingness to just murder everybody.
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  Speaker 3: So this guy, if he gets out of office, I
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  Speaker 3: think he could get tried and killed or sees. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's basically it's like it's like net Nya, who's in
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  Speaker 3: the sense that if he's as long as he's in power,
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  Speaker 3: he's okay, you know, But if he's out of power,
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  Speaker 3: I think he could have a lot of problems. So
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  Speaker 3: his interest is really to prolong similar to Yahu in
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  Speaker 3: the sense with his corruption case, his interest is really
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  Speaker 3: to prolong war, not resolve it, because his political future,
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  Speaker 3: his actual physical survival.
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  Speaker 2: Would be in the balance.
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  Speaker 3: Unless he fled the commune, he could actually so less.
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  Speaker 3: He could more easily flee to a Western country like
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  Speaker 3: England without too much trouble. I think, yeah, So, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: maybe I should downplay that a little more. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he's not a he can't live in Ukraine anymore after
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  Speaker 3: he's in.
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  Speaker 1: Power, James, So, world War one was fati obvious. World
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  Speaker 1: War two was fati obvious. Your film's called World War Three?
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think we're we're now in World War three?
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  Speaker 3: That essentially, but it won't it'll take a little bit
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  Speaker 3: different form. But basically the film proposes we are in
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  Speaker 3: World War three.
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  Speaker 5: America exists today to make war. How else do we
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  Speaker 5: interpret nineteen straight years of war and no end in sight.
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  Speaker 6: I spent thirty three years and four months at active
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  Speaker 6: military service, and during that period I spent most of
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  Speaker 6: my time as a high class muscleman for big business,
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  Speaker 6: for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was
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  Speaker 6: a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
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  Speaker 5: It's part of what the American Empire is.
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  Speaker 7: We're in a very very bad situation economically, and I
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  Speaker 7: think in profoundly healing terms inside the United States.
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  Speaker 4: If you look at the national debt, we're still paying
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  Speaker 4: interest on World War One.
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  Speaker 1: War is a very futile thing.
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  Speaker 8: We had almost never fought to war which was worth fighting.
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  Speaker 2: O't got anything else of it.
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  Speaker 1: There is no instance of the need benefiting from prolonged.
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  Speaker 5: Warfare SANSU did not live with the military industrial complex.
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  Speaker 1: The military industrial complex gets reasonable to fight for your
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  Speaker 1: own country, but not get involved in other people's wars.
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  Speaker 5: We now live to make war.
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  Speaker 7: Two hundred and thirty one million people killed in wars
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  Speaker 7: in the twentieth century.
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  Speaker 2: You do not count battlefield only. You count people that.
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  Speaker 5: Die from starvation and disease as a result of the war.
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  Speaker 4: There isn't a single war that has taken place that
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  Speaker 4: they haven't lied about. Usually what they do is they
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  Speaker 4: create a false flag.
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  Speaker 7: There was no real reason to fight the Spanish American
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  Speaker 7: War when the battleship name blew up. As we know now,
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  Speaker 7: it had nothing to do with the Spaniards at all.
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  Speaker 8: FDR deliberately withheld the bomb plots intelligence from Hawaii because
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  Speaker 8: he wanted it utterly destroyed in order to further his
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  Speaker 8: war aims against Germany Vietnam.
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  Speaker 4: What are we there for? What is your objective? There
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  Speaker 4: is never an objective.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody knew what they were supposed to be doing and
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  Speaker 1: what the endgame was.
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  Speaker 7: We spent ourselves into oblivion at Vietnam. The real cost
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  Speaker 7: of the Vietnam War was we went off the gold standard.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take out Saddam.
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  Speaker 9: Free these people and the dictator of Iraq. The world
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  Speaker 9: could wait no longer.
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  Speaker 4: Does anybody ask what comes next?
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  Speaker 2: They never asked that question.
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  Speaker 7: When it ended as quickly as it did, as successfully as.
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  Speaker 2: It did, we had no plan.
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  Speaker 4: Weapons of mass destruction Iraq costs is three trillion dollars,
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  Speaker 4: and then we're going to be paying interest on that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be paying ten trillion hours right time you get
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  Speaker 2: to the twenty thirties.
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  Speaker 9: We're here for more than just the price of a
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  Speaker 9: gallon of gas. What we're doing is going to chart
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  Speaker 9: the future of the world for the next one hundred years.
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  Speaker 4: Is there any means known more effective than war has
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  Speaker 4: shown me?
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  Speaker 5: You wish to alter the life of an entire people.
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  Speaker 1: The ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine now in its
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  Speaker 1: third year has resulted in approximately one million casualties.
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  Speaker 2: This is an artificial conflict.
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  Speaker 7: Had we not deliberately intervened in Ukraine to establish a
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  Speaker 7: government in Kief that was stridently anti Russia and essentially
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  Speaker 7: slavishly devoted to the United States of NATO, there wouldn't
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  Speaker 7: be a conflict in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: This whole thing is a fraud.
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  Speaker 10: Moments ago, isra A launched Operation Rising Line.
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  Speaker 7: The current aggressive posture of Israel is not sustainable over
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  Speaker 7: the long term.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that ned in Yahoo and his supporters.
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  Speaker 7: Know that.
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  Speaker 10: The messianic, crazy, extreme groups of Israelis that think that
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  Speaker 10: they can kick out the Palestinians and anix.
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  Speaker 7: Perry trees, the elites think that they're immune or invulnerable
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  Speaker 7: to whatever happens, and they're wrong. People don't believe World
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  Speaker 7: War three can happen. Just could annihilate us.
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  Speaker 5: We have enough nuclear megatonic to set human life back
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  Speaker 5: to the dark ages, which is.
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  Speaker 3: Going to take more of the form of like a
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  Speaker 3: global brush fire with hotspot with hot sound. So it's
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  Speaker 3: not going to be I think to the level of
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  Speaker 3: what we're one and two with these huge nation states
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  Speaker 3: asking each other, I think we will see that, but
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  Speaker 3: only in certain zones. Also, military technology has changed a bit,
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  Speaker 3: so you can't do these big land invasions with troops
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  Speaker 3: the way you could before because of missiles, satellites, drones.
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  Speaker 3: The methods of warfare have changed a bit. But I
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  Speaker 3: think we see the Ukraine fronts with drones and these
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  Speaker 3: kind of like weird remote stalemate killing things. We see
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  Speaker 3: the Israeli aggression against six countries, seven countries that sort
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  Speaker 3: of I think is an exos pits Israel's aggressive So
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  Speaker 3: basically the film proposes that the film outlines the origins
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  Speaker 3: of the Ukraine Russian EU conflict, which I think will
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  Speaker 3: front a front could open up in the Belarus Polish
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  Speaker 3: border very possibly in the coming year. And then there's
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  Speaker 3: also the Israel versus everybody theater, which primarily I ran.
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  Speaker 3: Now they're going to talking about it grewing with Turkey,
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  Speaker 3: which is totally insane on their part. And then and
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  Speaker 3: then there's the US China maybe another year and a half,
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  Speaker 3: two years down the road, a potentially US confrontation with
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: China because we're now sign a defense agreement with Indonesia
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: to to restrict the Straits of Malica. A lot of
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: this closing in the Straits of Vermuz by Iran provoked
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: by a US Israeli attack and now the US blockade
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: on it. On the on the surface, it just looks
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: like a very stupid move of Trump's U blockade a bookade.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: But think about it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Then the second level of the onion is really that
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: US is seeking to destroy the Gulf States to to
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: get rid of their energy production, and then the US
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: oil would then be more commercially bible sellable price better
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: relative and then and squeeze China. So this squeezes eighty
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: percent of O and oil goes to China. All this
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: Gulf oil is going to Asia and Europe. So this
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: brings this serves to global ASTs objectives to screw Europe,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: destroy amelec, to raise energy prices, push people onto these
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: electric solutions, cars, all this stuff that people don't really want,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and then also bring Asia to its knees, restrict the
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: energy supply of China, create an economic crisis in China,
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: which China does not have any oil and requires a
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: lot of oil and energy to thrive, so I think,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: and then the third layer of the onion would be
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: more like this is a plot to create a messianic
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: kind of world war Gog and Magogue war, which really
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: isn't rational at all. So I think most people can't
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: really get their head around that one. I throw that
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: out in the film to get people to understand that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: But I think that's that's kind of the ultimate layer
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: of the onion is is is to create a world
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: war to restructure the world politically, geopolitically.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: With a Jewish hate of the snake as it were.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, these ideas come from Judaism, but there's also but
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: not non Jewish oligarchs have used this, this idea of
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: war to create political change that wouldn't otherwise be possible.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: So well, I think there's heavy Jewish messianic overtones to this,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: the war of Goga Magogue, and I buy you a
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: lot of clips of Rabbis calling for these things in
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the in the film, but it's it's uh. I'm struggling
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: with this now how to include because the film will
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: be out in a couple of months. I'm still editing it,
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: editing it. There's a there was a really interesting congressional
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: subcommittee in the nineteen fifties during the mccarthyis anti Communist
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: investigations and there was one. The rece Committee investigated the
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: tax free foundations. They look at Rockefell Foundation, Carnegian Dowmina piece,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: and they found that they were seeking to provoke war
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: as a means of politically transforming us to be more
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: collectivists and less freedom orient And so this interview with
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Norman Dodd before he died by Geetard Griffin. He outlines
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: his thing, but it's like a nineteen eighty four shot
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: like interview with this guy who's on his deathbed. So
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the interview's quite dry, like it's hard for me to
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: put it in the movie and have it flow because
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: it's like he's like, they're like what they looked at
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: the Carnegian Dowmina piece, the books in minutes. They sent
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: an investigator and said, we were in Congress, we're here
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: to audit your a foundation. And the guy chose a
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: lawyer woman in the staffer, who was like, the foundations
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: are great.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: They sent her to look at.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: The founding minute minutes, the minutes on the beginning of
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: the Curnegian down on a piece and they said the
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: first year, they said, how do we transform society? And
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: they ask a question at the beginning every year and
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: answered at the end of every year, and they said,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: how do we fundamentally transfer transform us society and the
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: cultural fabric to be more collectivistic.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Answer at the end of the year, get us into
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: a war. War is the best means.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Beginning of the second year, how do we get us
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: in How do we get American into a war? End
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: of the second year, we got to get control of
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: the State Department. Third year, how do we get control
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: of the State Department? It was like this conspiratorial thing. Anyway,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the lady sent to read the minutes lost her mind
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: because she's like, this is so diabolical of evil, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: the congressman just stuck her in a bureaucracy because she
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: totally kind of got unhinged reading that. So this really
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: interesting kind of primary source information because it's coming right
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: from a congressional investigation.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: It's not some Internet researcher. But it's uh yeah, I'm
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: struggling with how to get that in there and have
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: it flow in a way.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I have to kind of set it up with some narration,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: just play a few little clips in.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: World War three? Who are the main antagonists?
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Well, I guess it's it's it's sort of like I mean,
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: in the at the messianic level, it's the eats versus West.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: It's it's US and EU versus Russia, China, I Ran, Turkey,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: access since the uni polar world versus the multipolar world.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: This is the this is the false dichotomy that's being
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: set up.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: In reality.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: No, people everywhere don't want war, the average person nowhere
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: once more, you know, like so we're all pushed into
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: this stupid stuff. This this futile, wasteful, destructive activity called war.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: But but what what what narrative is being crafted? Is
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: this US and EU versus everybody else? So the oval
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: South whatever you want to call it, uh, Russia, China, Turkey, Iran,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: and but we're What I point out in the in
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: the film is that this is this is set up
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to destroy the West because the US, the American military
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: systems are are exorbitantly expensive and increasingly less effective against
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: much cheaper solutions as as warfare. Military technologies are changing today,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: so we see the increasing use of cheap drones, of
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: of of hypersonic missiles developed by Russia and China. That
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: that these these multi billion dollar aircraft and missile system
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: weapons systems that the US produces are are this is
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: going to destroy our economy, the US, the US hegemony
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: in the world has basically been discredited over what's happened.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: And I ran the least six nine months. We are
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: US has has failed in conquering an unconquerable country.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I should add Iran.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: And we're being set up to be the globals are
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: setting up the multipolar world through the military humiliation of
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: the United States, and then eventually I think it'll crescendo
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: into and Europe is basically an extension of US. It's
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: going to get its ass whooped in the in the war,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: it's going to provoke with Russia, or it's continues to
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: provoke with Russia.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: It'll get its ass candid to it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: And then and then ultimately the crescendo will be the
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: US aggression against China. And I interview top diplomats or
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: family friends like this uh chest Freeman. He says, the
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: last five years, when we ran more games against US
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: for China, US loses. We we each lose some massive
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: amounts of our hardware, two thirds of our air force,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: two thirds of our navy. US and China both but
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: in the end US does not have the capability to
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: replenish the planes, the ships, the missiles. But number one,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: because we don't, we lack the industrial base to do
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: it and to do it quickly.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But also a lot of the chips, most of the chips.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: I interviewed these top CI director equivalent and the former
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: head of the DGSE in France, Angulie.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And he's like, let me tell you, is this still
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you have? Taiwan is vil? You know?
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: And he's like, because all the chips, all the chips
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: from your missiles and planes, and every every high tech
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: thing that the America makes militarily has Taiwanese made chips
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: in it. So all the China has to do is
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: take Taiwan, blow up two facilities in Taiwan, and the
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: US military can't make any more missiles anything planes. So
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: you get into a multi year world war scenario between
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: two adversaries like US and China. The key is who
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: can continue to make like in World War two? How
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: many can you can? Can you continue to build the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: ships and planes and missiles on a rapid basis? And
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the answer is US would struggle to do that, whereas
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: China would too, but they would still China and Russia
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: have the ability in the industrial base and the autarcic
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: internal the minds, the refineries to the factories to produce
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: their weapons systems.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, US is not.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Our economy is more like also just on economic level,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: US's economy is way more it's not as internally contained.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Like we have tons of rare earth minerals, but we
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: have to send them to Kazakhstan or some other country
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: or China to get refined to then use internally.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: We don't have the refineries.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: So this is really stupid to be taking on China
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: because we don't. Trump keeps saying we got the cards,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: we hold the cards. We don't hold the cards because
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: we don't. We don't have They actually have more economic
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: leverage over us due to this, the way the industrial
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: processes are are are organized. Uh, so we're at it.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: We're actually in a weaker spot to threaten China in
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: many ways.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I mean Trump visited Jing Ping, Chesing Ping didn't visit Trump.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were joking.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I mean the guy didn't even have a diplomatic plan,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: he didn't even have an agenda. The fucker just showed
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: up with like a bunch of a dozen Jewish billionaires
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: to do deals, and he didn't even and they were
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: just making fun of the guy. I mean, like he
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Chiji and King didn't even go to the tarmac to
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: greet him like you normally do. So I think this
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: is this is a It shows a real lack of
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: professionalism diplomatically. It just looks like there's a bunch of
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: grifter plane full of grifters coming over to like grift
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: off deals. I mean, so it's like what US is.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think Trump is doing a lot to
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: embarrass the United States in terms of in terms of
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: our seriousness as a power. You know, it just looks
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: like kind of a free for all of grifters.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think, you know, do you think Trump is
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: just middle management?
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I mean I think he's top management. I mean he's
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: he's the president, but he's.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean what does that actually mean? I mean,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you know that adage all wars or bankers wars?
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I mean I think he's just funked.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: He's a functionary like executing things, you know. But anyway,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: it's it's quite depressing the whole thing, to be honest.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: So what role then do the bankers play in World
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: War three.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: What role do they play. I mean, well, that's kind
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: of one of the points I'm making in the film.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: It's like it's it's not just about making money, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: after World War One, Bernard Barouche, so like if you
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: look at War one world War two, a lot of
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: the same functionaries, like top banker lieutenants like Bernard Beruge
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: were advisors to Wilson and then in World One, then
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: later to FDR and World War two and on the
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: British side as well, and they were they were like
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Bernard Brusche. I remember reading a Senate investigation testimony and
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: he's like, we anticipated this war and so we bought
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: all these minds and all these industrial assets and like
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: future inputs into the war effort, and then they just
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: fucking made bank you know. It say's like there's one
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: level of making money on war, and there's definitely that
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: element in all this.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: But I do think ultimately the.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Primary objective is to is to change the political, the
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: geopolitical standard and the structure of the world, to shift
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: shift the balance of power in the world. And this
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: is the talking points the globalists, for lack of a
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: better word, keep using the oligarchs behind this conflict. They
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: keep saying, Oh, we want a multipolar world. We want
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: a multipolar world. We want to diminish United States, diminish Europe.
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: All the policies are to that end. All these green policies,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: all the migration policies, all the trade policies that were
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: implementing over the last fifteen years are doing this now.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: And then you smack us with a world war with
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: a big The budgets are already blown out, and now
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: you hit the West with a massive war budget and
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: the East. I mean, everyone's going to get it screwed
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: over this. But I think this will kind of be
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: a death blow of the West in terms of pushing
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: it down. I mean, Rockefeller is back in the seventies,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the former.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Treasury secretary.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Forget the functionary's name, but this is the treasury sector
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: in the seventies, he said. Look, and I saw a
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: clip from Soros too. In the early two thousands, he says,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the United States will have to take a lower position
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: in the world. It's standard of living is going to
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: drop and and and the other parts of the world
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: are going to rise up, and it'll be more balanced
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: geopolitical like theater. So I don't think US is going
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: to go into a complete basket case, but it's going
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: to I think it's gonna like we're going to see
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: higher prices.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: It's going to be more like Latin America.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: You're going to see like very rich and very poor,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: a little more of a crazy demographic situation and like
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: and like, uh, maybe more guarded houses like you're used
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: to having in South Africa.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: More like South Africa, I can give you.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But for how agree that haven't seen that?
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: That's like, really, oh my god, it's apocalypse, which it
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: still functions, you know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Uh. The US Israeli relationship is it's a it's a
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: it's an enigma. I think in your film someone makes
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the comment that it's the flea driving the dog. How
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: did this happen?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think, to be honest, to go further back,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: the Masons and Jewish money and minds like helped create
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: the United States and the christ.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but really, if you go back, I mean, this
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Masonic view was very influential, and from my reading of
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: of of those things, it was a very Jewish organization
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: of the symbolism of rebuilding Solomon's Temple and all this,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: so this this utopic sort of Baconian idealism. If you
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: look in the history of Western asotericism, a lot of
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: it comes from Kabbala and from Jewish mystical thought. Uh So, Anyway,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: the point is, I think you can't just like you
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: can't separate Western history and Jewish history if you go
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: further back, the Roman and the Roman Juday and Wars,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the Jewish history and Western European history are so intertwined
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: that you can't really separate the two. So I would
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: almost sorry I'm going so far back, But the foundation
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: of the United States, I think was very influenced by
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: this thinking to ultimately destroy the monarchies, because the old
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: world order was the monarchies, aristocracy in the church, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: this new world order of replacing the monarchies with the
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: republican cele government and getting people to not believe in
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: the authority of their own kings anymore. America and Revolution
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: and then later French Revolution, we're pivotal in destroying the
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: public opinion against the monarchies. So understandly, learning all this,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: I know I'm pro more pro monarchy, but yeah, I
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: think it's a better system of government, to be honest, But.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: You've read, sorry, have you read the book by off
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: now Gone Blankets called Democracy The God That Failed?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hans Happa, Yeah, I've been to conferences. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: So when you go through the reasoning, it's that makes
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: a lot of more sense, Like because the monarchs don't
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: want to be the king of a toilet, they don't
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: want to trash their their asset. They kind of think
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: the kingdom is their property. So why would you want
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: to let in migrants and have socialists wealth exchanges and
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: just make your country into a shit all?
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Like, there's not this, there's a long.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Term view of preserving the capital stock of your country,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: whereas these temporary elected caretakers don't give a shit. They're
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: just like lood as much as possible until the next
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: jerk is there and make as many friends. So yeah, no,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: I totally agree. So anyway, what are we What was
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: your question about America.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Where I was asking about the flea driving the dog.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that the flea driving the dog
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: the fleas Oh, he's kind of been driving the dog.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: I guess it's my point because because this goes back
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to the inception of the US, but now it's really
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I think now we're kind of entering the Messianic era
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: from their cookie beliefs. So so it's the gloves are
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: off now, and like the brutality of this view of
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: the world is kind.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Of laid more bare.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's concerning because a lot of these rabbis
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: are saying, look, if you guys turn any simotic, you
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: could turn on us, We're going to just trash your
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: country really badly, you know. So it's like we're being
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: set up. I mean like Germany was kind of set
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: up like that too. It's like, if you guys turn
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: on us, we're going to fucking trash your country, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: it was plunged into a horrible war that killed twenty
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: million Germans. So I mean it's just an countless Russians.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I mean probably forty million Russians.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I don't know, is us being set
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: up to get slaughtered in here? I hope not. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: hope we don't go through the tragedies of the Second
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: World War.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, being from DC, I can tell
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: you that the Israeli grip on the United States is
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: very firm. You're really not allowed to talk against it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: And five weeks ago, six weeks ago, I interviewed Thomas
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: Massey in DC and Reggae interview, very most critical guy
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: of Israel.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: He just lost his primary election.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: But then like a week I released the film two
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: days after his primary election, and then two days after
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: that I found out that this guy Jeff Yass, this
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Jewish billionaire from Pennsylvania that funds is really Settlement's actually
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: funds Funds Massy and funded his primary campaign. So make
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: sense of that if you will. I mean, are they
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: playing both sides or what? Getting a grip on this guy,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: But anyway, he's out there yesterday giving talks in the
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Congress talking about USS liberty and how we're controlled by Israel.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: But the guy's funded by them.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: So and yes, it's also funds Joran Paul, who sucks
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: up to Israel a lot. So I don't know, It's
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: like these guys, they got their fingers everywhere, and it's.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Like, you don't really know. But what's said though, I
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: just a way to control things.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But what said James is that they are real conflicts.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but they really kill us.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I mean what's going on with Iran
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: is real.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: But I mean what happening is also very real.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Well, let's take the Iran thing, because it's really interesting.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: It's like the Iranians in on one level, US is
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: provoking a fight with Iran, which is very formidable and
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: they can't win that. On the other level, Iranians are
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: being used to destroy the Gulf States, so it's like
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: they're like it's like layers of the geopolitical onion and
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: real there's real countries and real with real people under them.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Being used to do these things. So it's there.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: It's like tragedy on tragedy, you know, but it's on
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: a higher level. There's there's they're like pieces of a chessboard.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: So I mean a lot of it is theater with
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: actors on the stage and then the directors are backstage
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and you can't see them.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I mean they're not a lot of them aren't just actors.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: They're real, like you're saying, they're real people, like they're
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: you could have like like like Thomas Mescy for example,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: I think I think.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I like to think he's a real guy.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: He really believes what he's saying, but at another level, he's
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: funded by people that take a different position than him
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: for some purpose, maybe to manage the situation fully, to
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: have a.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Grip on it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Iran is being, Iran is really fighting for its sovereignty.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Now you know, it's got it's kind of a crazy
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Mulla government, but it's but it's like, you know, the
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: average Ranian I don't think, really likes that, somewhat likes
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: this crazy Mollo government, but they like them more than
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: they like the israel A. He's Americans carpet bombing and
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: murdering people. They've just we've destroyed over one hundred and
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: twenty thousand properties, people's fucking apartments and houses, and I
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: think over thirty thousand commercial properties.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So yeah, like I can't see it, Rani.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: When Israel and US come in and do that and
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: blove twenty schools, you know what do you?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Of course, where there.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Going to back their government to fight these fuckers coming
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: and doing that things like that, and these these horrible
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: double tap bombings. I don't know if you've heard of that.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: They will bomb this is this is one of these
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: war crime behaviors. It's like, well, bomb like we bombed
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the min At school and killed the one hundred and
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: fifty girls or whatever. More then we waited thirty minutes
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: and then bomb the site again to kill the paramedics.
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, what is this behavior? You know, this is like, well,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: what is this? And then you know, a month later
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: we bombed this bridge. Trump tweets out, Yeah, we got
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: this bridge. What are you fucking bombing like civilian infrastructure?
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: And then we.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Double tapped it, bombed the bridge again when paramedics show up.
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: This is like atrocious behavior, and our presidents out there
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: tweeting about how awesome it is. That's six. It's sick behavior.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: It's like it's old Testament behavior. You know this you
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: kill the women and children, even the little donkeys and
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: the cats.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, so, I don't know.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: This is not the fitting of a note of a
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: civilized country behaving like that. You should only fight military,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: hit military targets, and hit actual legitimate military targets.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Is the only way war should be conducted, if it's
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: ever conducted. Now.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Well, in your film, one of the cool arguments is
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: that America's primary reason for existence now is to make wool.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: How do you push.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Back, Yeah, I mean the US is, yeah, we're being
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: set up to be the big military. We were set
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: up to be the big military guerrilla in the world
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to bang things up and prepare the world now for
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: wherever we're entering in now and then how do.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: You push back? I don't want me to think about that.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know you, like I don't know
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: you don't I don't know how you could not pay
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: into this thing as a citizen. But I mean you
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: pushed back by I think basically people got to run,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: People got to run for office. I mean, I think
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: we got we need better people going into government. As
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: much as I don't like the system we have now,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Like we got really really really slimmy people, and we
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: need good people.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: To go into government.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I think that's the main solution and pull this situation
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: back into a stable order.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: But I mean, every every youth president basically since JFK
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: has been Assigonist.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's great.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is that it looks quite bleak.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's even blinker when you're in Washington. We
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: had the we had the one we had to the
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: two congressmen that talked shit about these saying this was
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: Marjorie Taylor Green and U and Massey, and they threatened
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: to kill Margie.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: The others Green's family, and.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: She called up Trump and said, oh, man, I'm getting
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: these death threats and threatened to kill my sons and
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: he and she said in an interview she said, he
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: told her, Oh, Marjorie, if they get killed, it's your fault.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: It's like it's like, clearly he's like involved, if he's
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: if he's making a statement like that, so it's that's
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: not very good. And then Massy's funded by the Israeli guy,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: so or is really sympathetic guy.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: So that, yeah, that doesn't sound good.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: And when I was just in Mormon lind a couple
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: of days ago, somebody told me, oh, you know, we
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: had a Mormon senator or something back in the day,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: and he was saying there was five congressmen out of
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: four hundred and thirty eight. I think it is he's
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: like this guy. And he didn't include Marjorie Taylor Green
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: in that. He said there's only five on this congressman.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: So I, yeah, you know, the put the federal political
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: environment is very bad, but again even more reason why
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: we need people to do it. So I once told
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: my parents when I was in high school, like, oh,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I'd like to go into politics and be a congressman.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: They said, James James, like, honest, people don't do that.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: That's only trashy people do that. Don't do that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So in your film you quote Sun Zoo saying that
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: no nation benefits from war, and then I think there's
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: a number, and I think there's a number of something
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like two hundred and thirty million people have died.
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to give people context of like what is the
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: real cost of war? Like helm like, it's not an
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: idle matter. I mean, I'm making that point too, because
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: it's I think the guy I found, this guy Milton Lettenberg,
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: who's whose family was Jewish from Poland. I think they
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: came to us after the war. But he wrote the
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: best military paper on what are the actual metality tolls
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: of war in the twentieth century and found it was
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: like one hundred and thirty million people died as combatants,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: as like soldiers, but it's really another one hundred million civilians.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: So there's one hundred and thirty one million dead and
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: at the hands of government in the twentieth century. So
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: that this is I'm making the point. It's to say
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: this is not an idle matter. It's not like, oh yeah,
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: that's like a lot of American conservatives are so propagandized
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: by Fox News that, oh, we can just let's bomb
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: this country, let's go in there. And you're just like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: because we haven't even tasted war in our country, we
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: haven't felt it. You haven't had you know, like Lawrence Wilkerson,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: Colonel Warrence Likes says, you haven't had a grenade fall
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: through your window and the blood's go in the streets.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: So Americans are like, I think it's disgusting how they
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: just like idly talk about bombing some country. You do
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: hear that a lot from older Republican types. Oh you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: orench Orene just been thrown up our ass for forty years,
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: because like Fox TV says that they're like, well, what
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: political threat does I ram pose us over here? Like
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: it's on the other side of the world, like minding business,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: you know, besides the CIA fucking put Comani in power
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: anyway in the seventies, or the people that controlled the
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: CIA put put that guy in this this kind of
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: leftist mullah in power. So so who are we really
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: fighting some some some mirage we created back fifty years ago.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: So I mean, it's just like people don't have the
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: historical contexts, and that the war is not an idle thing.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: It's you win, you win.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: One of the keys of diplomacy is that you win
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: with sugar, and you win with with diplomacy. You don't
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: win with with violence. It costs money to kill people.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: It's it's extremely costly and feutile, stupid.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: The bankers win though.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get to kill a lot of people too.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: That that definitely seems like one of the objectives.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: You mentioned g Edward Griffin at the beginning of the conversation.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: And remember that interview that he did with Jury besmanalv
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I think it was in nineteen eighty four, Yeah, where
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Besemanov said to him that within a few generations, the
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: US will destroy itself without a bullet being fired.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I mean there's this in the West. They're sort of
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: pushing this sort of in the US.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: In in the U.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: SO I also interview like Martin Armstrong and he sort
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: of characterizes World War three as not a heavy nation
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: versus nation conflict, but like a global brush fire. And
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I interviewed Swiss Colonel two who's on the National Security
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Council Clevelent in Switzerland, and he says like, you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: and I said, I interview a bunch of people that
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: say that's increasingly are there's a detachment between the people
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: and the government, and we no longer trust our governments.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: They're openly acting against our interests. So this is creating
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: sort of a civil war type environment, a destabilization of society,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: of the security situation, And that's sort of what Besmanov
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: is outlining, to basically create a situation where we have
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: an internal vacuum or power struggle or a violence, a
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: civil war type scenario. Yeah, so that that that that
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: sort of is consistent with what Besmanov's saying, you know.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Sorry every time you get a WhatsApp message. And then
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: another three that comes through in your in your film
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: is that every war is based on a lie.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's kind of interesting now is that that
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: not every war is based on a lie.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Now they're not even covering that up. It's like.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Like word World War two, they're like, oh, democracy, or
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: we're fighting for Vietnam. They like, we're fighting for capitalism
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: verse communism. But now it's like now Trump is like, man,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I got a lot of oil out of Venezuela, Like
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: we just we just this thing was self financing, you know,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: so it's kind of crazy. Now they're not even like
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: covering up the fact that it's a grifting operation.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: But the thing that confuses me though, is I mean
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: with Russian and Ukraine. I mean that's one of the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: threads in the film. Why has it taken so long?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: Because I think they're they want to prolong it. I
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: think if if you look in politics, this is one
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: way they always look at things.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: You say, Man, this situation doesn't make any sense. This
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: is irrational.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: FDR once said, everything in politics happens for a reason,
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: you know. So whatever is the outcome in terms of
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: the result of a concerted policy, is the was the
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: agenda that it was done for? So you in your
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: question in the Ukraine Russia war, I would totally agree
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: there the it doesn't make military sense to conduct a
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: war for three plus years to only fart around with
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: some providences of Dnatsk and Ladonsk. No one gives a
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: shit about the Dunetsk Ladansk Nobody. Okay, this is the
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: backest water place of the one of the most corrupt,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: shitty countries in the world.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Is Ukraine. To be brutally honest, Okay.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Like nobody, nobody's fighting for Europe, is not fighting for
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: the freedom of Dnsk and Ladonsky, like like, this is
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: a scam to basically create a war that will then
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: expand and pro and balloon out into a broader European war.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: That that is very clearly what the policy is is
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: about doing. I get into arguments with like McGregor about this.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: He thinks it's like or that that that Putin is
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: this rational actor, you know, and trying to be so
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: nice about Uh, that's the official story, you know that
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: that like Putin doesn't want a war, brought it with NATO.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: So he's only doing this slow war.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: But all Putin did have to do is just go
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: into Kiev and take over the capital. Historically, militarily, every war,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: you you invade the capital and be done with the war.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: That's the very And then the very beginning of the
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Ukraine War, Russia did go into surround Kiev almost take
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: it for two weeks three weeks, and then just sort
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: of like backed off. And then it's been conducting now
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: for three years a slow and steady blood letting campaign
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: just to secure Dnets Glendansk in the southern part of
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Ukraine pushing down to Odessa. But I just don't think
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: that's like, like it makes a lot of military sense
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: in terms of just being done with the matter, Like
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: just just be done with this senseless war. You know
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: why I prolong it and kill all these people? That
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: must be there must be an objective about that. And
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: if I have to look at the history of War one,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: World War two, US Civil War, there was many cases
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: in all these wars where the war was almost one
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: within the first six months and then first year, like
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the American Civil War, there was two critical battles where
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: each one where the other, each side almost won, and
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: then it was like the generals just stopped their invasion,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: they pulled back, They let the thing have, They let
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: the enemy get away, so that then the war would continue.
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: In World War one, Wilson got telegrams from these bankers saying,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: don't end.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: The war too quickly.
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: You know, they convince us standard of the war to
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: basically prolong the damn thing and then make the Germans
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: lose because there was thing of American money was all
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: invested in the Allies.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: And then World War two.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Also Hitler took over Dunkirk and then had a million POWs.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: British soldiers.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: He could have captured them, held this a ransom, and
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: then negotiated a peace. Instead, he just let them all go.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: And we're supposed to believe all the Hitler apologies like, oh,
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: because is such a nice s guy.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: He just loves Zengland.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: All all the German generals were like befuddled, what the
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: fuck is he doing?
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: We could have been done with this war.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: Why so it was a plot to prolong the war,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: make it bigger, and then get the geopolitical results over
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: a more bloody, long lasting war. So the bankers always
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: wanted to prolong these wars into bigger things. And that's
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: why I think he's going on Ukraine. Ukraine is now
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: in the thirty year it's lasted longer than World War Two,
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: now this Russian Ukraine War, and we have all the
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Western puppet politicians calling for drafts, calling for a broader
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: war with Russia irrationally, and Russia's looking like a more
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: rational political actor. They're are more logical in their in
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: their explanations and political positions.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: But the one thing that isn't logical about them is.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: Their position and the way the Ukraine War is being prosecuted.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I have heard that Putin is actually the main one
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: doing that policy, and a lot of his generals are
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: advocating for a quicker solution.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: He's holding them back.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: Sorry, what do you mean has lasted longer than World
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: War Two? How long was World War two? Six years?
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you look at like.
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: I think, if you take the Russian Front, like the
• 55:33
  Speaker 10: Russian oh if forty one to forty five or aid,
• 55:37
  Speaker 10: it's just gone over the length of the Eastern Front,
• 55:40
  Speaker 10: not if you go back to thirty nine.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Most normal people don't want war. And I think that's
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: a very profound point, because the average person does not
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: want war. It's not you and I that want war.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: It's the adigocks. It's those in power.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, who would want to go to war or
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: kill people don't even know.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: We'll find for them.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's kind of the weird part about
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: this is like your Europe. I interviewed David Betts in
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: London at King's College on the migration issue, and he's like,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: how are you supposed to get people to fight at
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: war if you're bringing in all these migrants and demographically
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: undermining your country and the government is openly favoring them
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: above the indigenous people, and then you're asking them to
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: take up arms to fight for the country now patriotically.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: He's like, it's just not going to fly. So people like.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: David Betts and and McGregor and these guys are saying
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: saying to me in the interviews and privately, they don't
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: think that that this war is possible. This thing's going
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  Speaker 3: to not it's not going to take shape the way
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  Speaker 3: a big war would. But I think regardless, they're they're
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: going to try to push this thing. I disagree. I
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  Speaker 3: think they're good. I think I think the bank are
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: going to push for their war and they're going to
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: get it. But it's it's just not it's just going
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: to take a different form than the World War two thing.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean globals and the Nuremberg Trials made
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the same point.
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  Speaker 3: He said, you know, the average fucking Russia, England, US
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  Speaker 3: doesn't want war, but you just say, you just say
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  Speaker 3: to them, hey, you've been attacked, do a false flag,
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: do the right stag fire whatever, and then and then
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  Speaker 3: you get your war.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the thing is going on. I mean, look
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: at Europe, it's completely employed in culture I mean, that's
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: that's a whole abstract war happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of weird.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: World War three is also just like a global brush
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: fire with the civil war things breaking out. But this
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: is also globally like even in countries like Indonesia or
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: like or like African countries, they're they're they're not governments
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: are openly just violating their citizens' rights.
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  Speaker 2: Now, then we.
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  Speaker 3: See a global push to put in the digital ideas
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  Speaker 3: and cvdcs and SDGs, and so it's like we're seeing
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: a global takeover under the rubric of a world war cloud.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: So we're to have the world war scenario, then we're
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: going to get economic collapses, demographic civil war problems, and
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: then in all this chaoticness, this push for more centralized
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: control is occurring in tandem globally like. So so this
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: could all be a pretext to basically foist a new
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: new social order, a technological social control scheme on everyone
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: in the world while we're told though, we're fighting these
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: other people. And then these economic crises occur under the
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: of sensive cause obstensively caused by the wars, which are
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: very well planned. So that's what it was kind of
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: that's kind of the point I was making that US
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: is provoking around to then destroy the Gulf States, but
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: that achieves this these economic crisis objectives that then we'll
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: be used to to create the sort of economic environment
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: to to achieve these political goals, so and and and
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: shifting people off of onto more electric you know, sources
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: of technologies that that are like your car, that are
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: that are more controllable.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's way.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: It's a more confusing, dynamic situation than than War one
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: World War two.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, so basically, you find a little island in
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere and go there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean I not everybody can do that,
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: or like, that's not that well ify.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: If everybody did that, then there'd be no more little
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: islands in the middle of nowhere.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they just be really clouded.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: So just go there and don't tell anybody.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what the future holds.
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: But well, come to an amagy.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I mean all we are very behind, which is also
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: a good thing in many ways.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but the thing the problem is these technologies
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: they can be quickly implemented. I remember, like twenty years
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: ago I was hearing about Estonia and they had one
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: telephone for hunt five hundred people, and then they went
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: from that to everyone having cell phones in like two
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: thousand and two, with like with like people spending twenty
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: percent of their income on the cell phone.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I think the same thing. Actually, yeah, really.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this so this tech can be rolled out
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: real quick. But yeah, I mean you're right.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Africa is actually like one of the largest land masks
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: in the world, second to like Russia, or maybe even
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: bigger than Russia.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I think it is bigger.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: It's like, but it's just like, yeah, the African countries
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: are kind of promising in a sense that they they
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: they are so primitive economic but like a lot of
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: them pushed back on the COVID thing, the vaccine that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: take was very low in the African continent.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: You still have all the corruption.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Issues of every leader down there, but it's like, you're
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: right that it holds a lot of opportunity, I think
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: more than any other continent in a sense.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to visit, James.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did last year. I went to Zimbabwe. That
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: was kind of interesting.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: That's not quite South Africa. I want you to come
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: visit here.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: No, I know, I know, but they were all talking
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: about South Africa's to make the more bigger place to see.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: I love to see Johanna's part.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that's a dump. It's just one
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: huge It's one huge concrete jungle. That's all it is.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: Well, what's the other big city? It's I am Cape Town? Yeah, no, sorry,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Cape Town is a beautiful one.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the one on the.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: See.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, James, how can I follow your work? And World
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: War three?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: So World War three Documentary dot com or WW threefilm
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: dot com. I bought eight different domains and they all
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: go to the site. So WW three three spelled the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: film and documentary. Just spell it any which way you'll get.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: You'll get the film WW three film dot com and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: then please donate to the film. I could use more
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: funding to get all these It's not just the film,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: but there's also thirty interviews. So I've released about twelve
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: of them now, but there's like eighteen more coming out
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: that are basically going going through the Ukraine War, Israeli War,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: in the China War and all this stuff. Historical and
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: future analysis is the best highest quality people in the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: world speaking out. I got three retired to German Generals,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: former head of the name AV, former head of the Bundesverer,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: former national Skaar, advisor to Marco fifty years General vad
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: I got General War in France. He is very interesting
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: interview on the history of future of Europe. I got
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: former anglier. He's a former DGS director, Colonel McGregor, Colonel
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: Lawrence Wilkerson, chas Freeman U, Prince of Lichtenshein, Uh, Prince Michael.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: So just the highest level people talking at it. But
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: I went to five countries to shoot all these guys
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: and then and then yeah, so it's really yeah, that's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: and then you can see my main work all the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: films at Big Picture dot watch. This is the website
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Big Picture dot Watch. So yeah, yeah, please check him out.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm on all the social media thing doing a
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: marketing campaign now with all these little videos.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: So his Planet Lockdown still available.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a Planet Lockdown film dot com.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's that's got thirty stuff. I told, Okay, great,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: because that was the first.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Then there's CBDC The End of Money dot com.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: There's my CBBC film.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Then there's The Great Taking or Stop at the Great
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Taking dot com or the Great Taking Report dot Com
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: is the site for that, but they all kind of
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: link from from a big pictures I'll watch usually to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: do site for each film too, So it's a huge body.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: It's like I have like fifty terabytes of interviews and
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: stuff and done.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: You I just got.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Another uh I do, yeah, but just most half the
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: editing I have editors, but then I have to refine it.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean sorry, But what I mean is
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: when you travel to do the interview, is it just you?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Do you have an assistant?
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: It's really just me usually yeah. Gee. So it's a
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: lot of work to write two.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Or three cameras, four mics and asked the questions, you know.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: But I got it. I got this down.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: It was very overwhelming at first doing play of lockdown
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: like that, but then I got it a kind of
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: the hang of it.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: It's pretty chill about.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: It, all right, James Patrick, thank you for joining me
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: in the trenches.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, interview command out