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Jeremy Edwardson and Scott Davis: The Myriad · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:22
  Speaker 1: To your love lost.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: Today, we've got two members of the Myriad with us.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: We've got Jeremy and Scott, and I'm just super stoked
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: to chat with both of you. You know, Colin, I
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: know you're especially a huge Myriad fan, Like I certainly
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: listen to you all a little bit back in those
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: like mid to late two thousands, but Culin, you are
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: like I mean, I feel like you're one of the
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: bigger Myriad fans out there, right.
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love them. So happy to have you guys
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  Speaker 3: on been You guys have been a band I never
• 0:59
  Speaker 3: would have expect to come back from from from the ether.
• 1:06
  Speaker 3: It's great. It's great seeing you guys making music again,
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  Speaker 3: because man, I don't know if there's a lot of
• 1:11
  Speaker 3: bands that have had such a great, like two full
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: album run, like just of every song being an absolute
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: masterpiece in my opinion, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, it's great. Yeah. We took a little bit, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: Just a tad well before we dive into the whole
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: history of the Myriad, which to me is kind of
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: an actually really interesting history. Uh yeah, Just how are
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: you guys doing today? I love to hear from both.
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  Speaker 1: Of you doing good. We're here in my studio and.
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  Speaker 2: We actually studio set up.
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  Speaker 1: You've got by the way, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: How long have you been in this studio have you had?
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  Speaker 4: I should say I built the soundhouse here in Reading
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  Speaker 4: in two thousand and nine, so I've been here for
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: how many years?
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  Speaker 1: Is that like six teen years or.
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: Something, and then been producing music since the late nineties.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, you've got quite the uh, quite the
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  Speaker 3: rap sheet of artists that have come through there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Here we've done a lot of the worship stuff, a
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  Speaker 4: couple carry Job albums, Chris Tomlin, Matt Redman, all the
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  Speaker 4: Jesus culture stuff, a few best stuff Mom loves.
• 2:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a Hillsong album too.
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  Speaker 4: Before right, I did a song for hill Songs like
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: oh they did it? So yeah, yeah, but they've been here.
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: I think Joel came by. It was kind of funny
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  Speaker 4: because Drowning Pool was here. They were on they were
• 2:43
  Speaker 4: on tour with Motley Crue and they called their manager
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  Speaker 4: called me that morning and said, is your studio available
• 2:50
  Speaker 4: because the band has a new song they're on tour
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: they want to rehearse it. I said sure. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: even know who it was. Drowning Pool starts loading in
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  Speaker 4: and I have them all set up, and then Hillsong
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  Speaker 4: shows up because they happen to be in town, and
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  Speaker 4: I think Joel texted and said, hey, can we stop
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  Speaker 4: by and.
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  Speaker 1: See your space?
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  Speaker 4: I said sure, So Joel and the band are walking
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  Speaker 4: in and I said, there's I didn't know this earlier
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  Speaker 4: when I said you guys could come by, but now
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  Speaker 4: there's a band here, but you can come in and
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  Speaker 4: just kind of peek. And he his ears perked up
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  Speaker 4: and he couldn't even see them because he wasn't in
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  Speaker 4: front of the glass yet to see into the room,
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: but his ears perked up just from the sound of
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  Speaker 4: the guitars and the singer, and he goes.
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  Speaker 5: What is it is that drowning pool?
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  Speaker 1: Like like he must have been a fan or something.
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  Speaker 4: And then he's just like, let the bodies hit the
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  Speaker 4: book let, the whole the whole band like freaked out.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, it's drowning pool and it was fun.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how I expected that would have gone. I
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  Speaker 3: would have thought it would have been like, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if you guys remember like the Old the Old
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  Speaker 3: Church have it in Hell's Skit that they.
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  Speaker 1: Would do like every year.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I first heard that song.
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  Speaker 4: I think I heard first heard it from like there
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  Speaker 4: was a video of this charismatic preacher anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's how That's how I first Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: was like doing the like hole where you like the
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  Speaker 2: whole room fell over.
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  Speaker 1: It was just that the bodies hit the so good.
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  Speaker 2: It was the first time I had heard that heard
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  Speaker 2: that song. But you heard it here first, folks, Hillsong
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  Speaker 2: Drowning Pool fans. That's I would have never guessed that
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  Speaker 2: from any of it. I mean, I know that there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of members of Hillsong,
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  Speaker 2: so you know, the chances aren't just like you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like you only got a pool of like
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  Speaker 2: four people. There's like what forty people in Hillsong something
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  Speaker 2: like that. But the fact that any one of the
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  Speaker 2: members of Hillsong is even aware of Drowning Pool is
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  Speaker 2: actually kind of impressive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it is.
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  Speaker 2: What cool story. Well, let's talk about just how you
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  Speaker 2: guys got involved, you know, starting doing myriad. I'm guessing
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: both of you because it seems like, if I remember right,
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like a band that you all started like
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  Speaker 2: right out of high school, Like it seemed like you
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  Speaker 2: guys were maybe a little bit more seasoned veterans at
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  Speaker 2: that point by the time you started the band. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to just kind of hear how the Myriad
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  Speaker 2: just yeah, got got started.
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  Speaker 4: We kind of started right at the tail end of college,
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  Speaker 4: at least for me. I was studying psychology and playing
• 5:26
  Speaker 4: in a local ska band. And actually Scott was in
• 5:29
  Speaker 4: a local ska band too where it starts, and we
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  Speaker 4: would do shows together and stuff. But we were in
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  Speaker 4: like we were both singers of like rival ska bands
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  Speaker 4: in town.
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  Speaker 3: What were the what was the name of your ska bands?
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  Speaker 4: I was in a band called Whistletoe.
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  Speaker 6: Bandits what the buckeroo bandits buck actually.
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like what my dad would have called my brothers and.
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  Speaker 6: I exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Something like that.
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  Speaker 4: So we there was one point in the Myriad where
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: I wasn't listening to any ska anymore, and I was
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  Speaker 4: just very deep into like bands.
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  Speaker 1: Like Radiohead and.
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  Speaker 4: And I wrote a song that was more in that
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  Speaker 4: kind of vein and and I just remember the horn
• 6:24
  Speaker 4: players when I first introduced the song just on acoustic
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: said the Myriad whistle t I mean, in my SKA band. Yeah, yeah,
• 6:32
  Speaker 4: before the Myriad. So I showed the band and and
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  Speaker 4: the horn players, the trumpet and the saxophone and the
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  Speaker 4: trombone player just looking at me and they just know
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  Speaker 4: what's coming.
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  Speaker 1: They said, what what? What would you like us to play?
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  Speaker 4: And I was like, I think you're gonna sit this
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  Speaker 4: one out nothing, and they.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: Were just bummed.
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  Speaker 4: We played a show that night and that was the
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  Speaker 4: song that I loved, and the rest of the guys
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  Speaker 4: were like, yeah, that's where we're going. So we said,
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  Speaker 4: let's just start a new band.
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  Speaker 1: So the horn.
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  Speaker 4: Players were out and we at that point needed a drummer,
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  Speaker 4: and so I went to Scott and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: do you want to play with our a new band
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  Speaker 4: we're going to start.
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  Speaker 1: We're all moving to Seattle.
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  Speaker 4: At the time, we were all living in Redding, California,
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  Speaker 4: and I just asked Scott, do you want to like
• 7:21
  Speaker 4: learn drums?
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  Speaker 1: Real He kind of played on the drums but not
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: real serious.
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  Speaker 4: I said, do you want to actually like move with
• 7:28
  Speaker 4: us to Seattle and play drums in the band? And
• 7:30
  Speaker 4: he was like, let's do it. So that was was
• 7:34
  Speaker 4: that two thousand, two thousand.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we started in Seattle. In two thousand and one,
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  Speaker 6: like around I think it's when we got out. There
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  Speaker 6: was August two thousand and one. But yeah, like you said,
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  Speaker 6: you know, I always jumped on the drums when I
• 7:45
  Speaker 6: had an opportunity after like rehearsals or whatever, and I
• 7:49
  Speaker 6: ended up playing a live show. I played one song
• 7:52
  Speaker 6: for my friend's band. Uh, just kind of came up
• 7:56
  Speaker 6: on the drums, and Jeremy and our old bass player
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  Speaker 6: John Schofield were both there and they saw me play
• 8:00
  Speaker 6: and they're like, oh, he can play. We should ask
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  Speaker 6: him to come along. So that was that we like
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  Speaker 6: broke our bands up and we're like, let's go start
• 8:07
  Speaker 6: this thing in Seattle. Enough of this sca stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels that's gonna be a little scary to
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  Speaker 2: not only like break up your bands that you had
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: in California, but then it's like we're gonna move to
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  Speaker 2: an entirely different state and then start a new band
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  Speaker 2: where you don't probably know too many people. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's it's gotta be a little Yeah, it just gotta
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  Speaker 2: be a little kind of I don't know, scary to
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: do something like that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it felt like because we had each other this
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  Speaker 4: like band of brothers going on an adventure. We had
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  Speaker 4: you know, one goal in mine to change the world
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  Speaker 4: through music, you know, and so there it was kind
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: of like a put all of our eggs in one
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: basket and go and you know, look for jobs.
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  Speaker 1: So we're all just kind of doing odd jobs up there.
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  Speaker 4: I remember at one point I was servicing atm Machines.
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  Speaker 4: So I'd get up at like five in the morning
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  Speaker 4: and drive around following like an armored truck and they'd
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  Speaker 4: get out and hand me like eight hundred thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: and I'd sign for it, and then myself and my
• 9:13
  Speaker 4: partner would go load cash into ATMs and then we'd
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  Speaker 4: meet the armored truck at the next stop. And it
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: was like I did that for a while. Scott was
• 9:21
  Speaker 4: busting tables or serving. Yeah, we all kind of had
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  Speaker 4: random jobs, but we'd try to, you know, get the
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: jobs out.
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  Speaker 1: Of the way to make music.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just we dove in and we were I
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  Speaker 4: think within a year or two, we were booking our
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: own tours across the states and playing in front of
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: you know, seven eight people a night and just trying.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: To make it. You know.
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  Speaker 4: The grind began, and yeah, our first tour. We we
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: loaded up into the van in Seattle and we started
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: driving across the US and we were I think we
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: were in Wyoming.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wyoming.
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: We were in Wyoming and are whoever was driving, I
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: think it was our guitar player John he was He
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: hit black ice and the van and the trailer literally
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: just started spinning down the main freeway or highway there
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  Speaker 4: and Scott and I we had like taken out the
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: back few seats of the van and elevated up like
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: a mattress, and then we put our luggage underneath this
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: sort of elevated area. Scott and I were both sleeping
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: on this mattress, and the inertia slammed me against the
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: window of the van and then Scott's against me. If
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: the van would have flipped, we were both just gonna
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: be launched. But thankfully the after several rotations down the freeway,
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: and at like three or four in the morning, the
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: back tire of the trailer dug down like two feet
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: into the earth and that sort of stopped the van
• 11:04
  Speaker 4: and we came unhitched, and then the trailer just went
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: just guitar amps, guitar cases just flying all over the freeway.
• 11:13
  Speaker 4: Just shooting up like they're being fired out of a cannon.
• 11:17
  Speaker 4: So we we kind of realized what what just happened.
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: So we're all jumping out of the van, and we
• 11:23
  Speaker 4: hear these semi trucks like coming down because they're seeing
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: guitar cases and trying to avoid them.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: So we all just.
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: Start running out onto the freeway and dragging amps and
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: dragging guitars out of the road. That was like night
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: one of our very first tour.
• 11:38
  Speaker 6: We like, yeah, we hadn't gone to our first show yet.
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  Speaker 6: We were driving out to our first show. We stayed
• 11:44
  Speaker 6: at my friend's house. I think in Dakota. I'm trying
• 11:46
  Speaker 6: to think where the states were at, but yeah, we
• 11:48
  Speaker 6: hadn't got to our first show yet. We were driving
• 11:50
  Speaker 6: out to the Midwest.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: We had to start.
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: We had to buy a new trailer before we made
• 11:54
  Speaker 4: it to our first show. And we were like, man,
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: this this whole band thing is dangerous, Like what are
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: we doing?
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Gosh.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: I don't remember who we were talking to, but they
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: said that it doesn't matter if you are a touring
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: musician who drives yourself to every place, It's only a
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: matter of time before you get into an almost life
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: threatening accident or a life threatening accident, and you guys
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: just got it out of the way right away. So
• 12:21
  Speaker 3: I think you guys did the smart move.
• 12:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, later we got t boned in New York. We've
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: had an out down, but no, that was the worst.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: That was by far.
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  Speaker 4: Like the very first accident was the one that could
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: have taken out the whole band.
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Right, So you were able to save all of your instruments.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we all had.
• 12:41
  Speaker 2: That's actually kind of unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: It was we all had these Like I don't know why.
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: I think we were more prepared than we should have
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: been because we were heading out to our first show
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: and it was probably like at a casino, you know,
• 12:55
  Speaker 4: in front of people, like playing slot machines, like.
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  Speaker 1: We it was.
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: But but for some reason we were like, we're going
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: on tour, we need to buy at a certified flight cases.
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: So we had the most beautiful cases for everything. So
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: everything was perfectly fine because of the cases.
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: I still have a bass drum case that my kick
• 13:17
  Speaker 6: drum was in and the the lugs from the kick
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: drum went through the top of a hard shell case,
• 13:22
  Speaker 6: Like the force was that much. I still have the case.
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: It like poked a hole with the lugs coming through.
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  Speaker 3: I remember seeing that going that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's the very beginning of the myriad. What an
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: exciting way to start out. Yeah, talk a little bit
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: about yeah, those maybe first couple of years and that
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: first album. So that's how I found out about you
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: all was that first album. I'm a huge Floodgate Records fan.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: I grew up in that world of listening to Tooth
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: and Nail, and then obviously just because I got involved
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: listening to Tooth and Nail, I eventually got in so
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: like Militia Group and some of those bands, and then
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: certainly Floodgate was one of those labels that I got
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: to know of and became a big fan of a
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: lot of the bands. So that's how I first heard
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: about you all. Yeah, talk a little bit about, yeah,
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: that first album. What was like to be on Floodgate
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: and all of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So we I think it maybe was like two
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: thousand and four. We played at Cornerstone Festival and we
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: were hoping to get signed and it was like that
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: thing that you that bands do that doesn't ever work,
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: where you send out like a press packet to every label. Yeah,
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: you find out later that they throw them away and
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: that kind of thing. But back then it was like, dude,
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: this is we got to do an eight by ten photo.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: We got to put our cassette in there or whatever
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: CD burn and then we'll get signed. And so we
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: sent it out to Tooth and Nail and to Militia
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  Speaker 4: Group and to Floodgate. And right about a week before
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: we went to Cornerstone, I got a call from this girl, Sarah,
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: who worked at Floodgate, and she was like, I just
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: got your your press packet and I was listening to music.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: I really like it, and I'm gonna bring my boss
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: Tim Tabor to your show because we're all going to Cornerstone.
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: And I was just like, I called the guys, guys, we're.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Gonna make it. You know, we're getting signed.
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  Speaker 4: But we weren't sure if he was gonna show up
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: at our show. But at that point we were friends
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: with Christian from Amberlin and Aaron from Copeland and they
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: actually saw Tabor and they brought us up and basically said,
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: come with us. We're going to the Myriad show over
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: at that tent or whatever. So Taber's like, oh yeah,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: my assistant, Sarah told me about them, and they just
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: sent me a press packet or whatever.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: So he comes over to the show.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: And then afterwards he came up to me and just said, hey,
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: can I buy you guys a drink? And over at
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: the Limit stand and we went over there and he
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: bought us all lemonade.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I think you remember that.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: I don't remember that, and remember the drink.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: Were sitting around this on a at a picnic table
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: there at Cornerstone and he's like, I want to sign
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: you guys to my label. And it was like the
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: that thing you do moment where we're like, there's a
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: guy and he's in a van and he wants is
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: we're all signing right now? So we basically signed and
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: then we did our first album, you Can't Trust a Ladder.
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: It was produced by Aaron marsh Copeland. Yeah, of course,
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: and that came out, I believe in like two thousand
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: and five, and we started touring at that point, sometimes
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: with label mate bands and yeah, I mean that was
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: kind of like the start of like what we felt
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: like it was more legit tours. It wasn't we're calling
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: clubs and seeing if we can play it fifty cent
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: PBR night on Wednesday or whatever. But it was kind
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: of the start of like what felt like legitimate tours
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: with bands that we loved, and eventually we Tim upstreamed
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: us to we ended up signing to Cotch Records. That
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: was kind of a long journey. It was crazy because
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: at what one point we were like flying to New
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: York and meeting with Matt Penfield who used to run
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: like Headbanger's Ball on MTV, and like we showcased for
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Columbia and Atlantic and all these different labels, and at
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: one point we were talking to Tooth and Nail. We
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: flew to their offices, Brandon flew down to a show
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: a House of Blues Anaheim, and we were kind of
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: trying to decide what direction we wanted to go because
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: there was a few labels that were offering to basically
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: buy our contract from Tim and upstream Us and whatever.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: And out of nowhere, this label came called Cotch Koch Records.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: We didn't know who they were, but apparently they were
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: like one of the biggest indie labels in the world.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: They had like Snoop Dogg and Shinead O'Connor and just
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: kind of a really random roster and so in the
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: first phone call with the president of the label, I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: just told him, Man, to be honest, I've just never
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: heard of Cotch.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not really interested.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: And he's like, okay, And so we got off the
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: call and then I got a call back that I
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: really pissed him off, and he doesn't take no for
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: an answer and he wants to talk again Monday. So
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: we got back on the phone Monday. He basically offered
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: us a lot of money to sign with them, And
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: it wasn't just like money in our pocket. It was like,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: we're gonna you guys can do your record wherever you want.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: We'll fly you tot Abbey Roads Studios to have it
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: mastered and damn anybody you want to mix it, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: we'll buy you guys equipment. And so they kind of
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: wind and dined us a little bit. We ended up
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: signing with them. Yeah, and that was like that was
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: our second record with Theirs, with Poise that came out
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Did you did you feel like this was like a
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: train that wasn't going to be stopped, because I mean,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: you guys, you guys did have a sound that was
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: not It definitely wasn't going to stay in like the
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: mold of like the Christian scene. I think I think
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: that you guys sold very well in that scene, but
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I think you guys certainly had.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: A broader appeal.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, you guys were on EMPTV a whole bunch.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And you know it.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: It's it is kind of a strange story in comparison
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: to a lot of you know, what you would generally
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: consider your peers. Did it feel like a train that
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: wasn't going to be stopped, like it was just gonna
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: keep chugging along.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and in the middle of it, especially
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: in two thousand and seven, in two thousand and eight,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: it was one of those moments in life where you
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: can't actually picture an end to it, and you maybe
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: think about how would this ever possibly end? And it
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: felt like it wouldn't and it wasn't supposed to. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: even with the MTV thing, I mean, we were we
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: were on our way to Texas to meet with David
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Crowder who we were going out on tour with him
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: and Phil Wickham for two and a half months, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: we get a call from MTV Studios and they're like, congratulations,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: you're one of twelve bands out of four thousand bands
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: that are producers at MTV selected to be a part
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: of this national competition. It's called it's a search for
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: the next breakout band, and so it was like, how
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: did we get involved in this in the first place?
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: And they're like, you guys signed up at the website
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: and our guitar players like, I thought that was like
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: the next MySpace, like MTV's version of like MySpace or Facebook,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: and they're like, no, it's like a competition thing. So
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: that was super random. And then even how we got
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: that call was crazy because we were in the middle
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: of the desert and the rules of the game were
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: they call the top twelve twice and if they don't
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: pick up on the second call, they move on to
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: like ban thirteen fourteen fifteen. So we happened to get
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: the call even though we were in the middle of
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: nowhere on the way to Texas, which was kind of crazy,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: especially back then with cell reception, Like, we don't even
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: know how did that happen? But yeah, we ended up
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: touring for two and a half months with David Crowder
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: and MTV would fly out to different shows with a
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: whole film crew and film like commercials with us and
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: on the tour bus and interview US and these commercials
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: were playing every night on MTV and fans were calling
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: in to vote for their favorite band.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: We ended up going to.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: The top six and then the top three flew to
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: New York in December of two thousand or December of
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: two thousand and seven, and we ended up winning the
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: whole thing live in Times Square and it was super crazy, Like.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Pete, when did any of the other bands kind of
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: really pop off at some point?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know it was them, Like, like.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: Are there any other bands that were in this competition that, like,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you know, we would.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Taking back Sunday? Actually? Was it one of those bands
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: from the years prior?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, but not in the year that you
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: were in.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: No, there was one band I can't remember what their
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: name is, but they were like a pop punk band
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that was in the top twelve but they didn't make
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: it past the top six or something, but I think
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: they ended up becoming huge.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I just can't remember.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: Fellow Cards, Yeah, yeah, something like that. But we that
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: that was wild because after winning that, we had a
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: number one video on MTV and so the momentum, like
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: you were asking, like the feel like a train like
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: of one hundred percent like we were. We spent like
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: three weeks in Berlin, Germany mixing with one of our
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: favorite mixed guys, and then we flew to Abbey Road
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: in London and mastered, and we were We had a
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: number one video on MTV and four videos on Total
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: and the the MTV Music Video Awards, like.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: With the popcorn and all that.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: During all those commercials, it was our song that was
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: playing like sort of in there in the background of
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: all those and we're on shows like the Real World
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: and sixteen and Pregnant and so we're it felt like
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: and you know, as a band, you talk about the grind,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: like we spent years playing in front of a dozen
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: people a night and it was always fun, but it
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: was hard, and we're not making any money and we're
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: eating like peanut butter and jelly sandwichs are like tuna
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: fish out of a can and the and that was
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: our life for you, And then you finally get to
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: that point where that point we were on a tour
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: bus and opening up for big bands and.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Instead for dinner.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, but it felt like we had finally made
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: it in a sense.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: At least there was that trajectory.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: And then we were at MTV Studios in two thousand
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: and eight and we were doing an interview with them,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: and at that point, Scott wasn't in the band. Randy
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: the drummer of the Myriad at that point Scott had
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: left a few year about.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: A year or two before, a couple of years before that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: And during the interview, Randy fell and he kind of
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: like fainted and fell and knocked me over, and then
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: we all grabbed him, like what just happened? And at
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: first we thought maybe it was from the lights and
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: his knees locking or something, but when he came to,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: he said he felt like a really intense pain in
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: his chest.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: And we were on.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Tour, i think at that point, with a band called
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Isley and Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Eisley and Videra and the
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Envy Core and and he he said, he admitted, it's
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: been bothering me since we started this tour, but I
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: just didn't want to bring it up. But it it
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: got really intense and it made me. The pain made
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: me faint. And he said, We said, well, what is it?
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: And he said, it's it feels like a lump right here.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: And we didn't think too much of it because we.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Just don't know.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: We're not doctors and stuff. But he said, I'm going
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: to get it checked out when I get home. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: we got done with that tour. About a month later,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: it had been growing and he got it checked out
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: and the doctor said it's probably just a swollen lymph node.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: So he gave Randy some pills. Randy took them all summer.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: The whole time it continues to grow. But Randy's kind
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: of a tough guy. He doesn't like doctors and stuff,
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: so I'm just going to keep taking these pills. Finally,
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: by I think around August, he went back and he
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: was a doctor. This isn't getting smaller, and the doctor said, okay,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: well I'll just do like outpatient surgery and remove it.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: And they put Randy under and then they came out
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: to his wife halfway through the surgery and they said,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: it's a huge black tumor. I can remove it, but
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: it's probably best for me to just completely remove his
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: whole arm and upper area because that'd be cleaner. So
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: she calls me Randy's still out and she's like, Jeremy,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: what should I do? You know, You're like Randy's brother
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: in the band, and I'm like, I know, I can't.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I can't make that decision. What do you think? And
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: she said, I think they should probably just take it
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: out and sew him back up, And so I said, yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent, Like if Randy wakes up with one arm,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be pissed. But so they did that, and
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: then they did the biopsy and all that, and it
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: came back that he had a really.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Rare form of bone can answer And.
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: We found out a couple of weeks later that he's
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: got to go into an intense chemo for about a year.
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: And we had a lot of stuff lined up, a
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: our you know, the label and manager and everybody called,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: you know, it's of course sorry to hear about Randy
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: and what's the plan, Like are you who's filling in?
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: And it just felt like we just needed to stop
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: and be there with Randy during this time, and you know,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: he had to go to the hospital for an entire
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: week every three weeks. We just said let's just cancel
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: everything because we talked about as a band and we're like,
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: we're never going to have any regrets about being there
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: for Randy, and as much as Randy was saying, dude,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: you guys have to have someone fill in for me.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: We can't stop this momentum. We just knew like there
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: would be there would always be that thing, like how
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: did that feel for Randy when we're just like, best
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: of luck, Bud, We're going to be back in two months,
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: We're hitting the road again.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: It just felt like the right decision was to be
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: there with him, And it was just an intense couple
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: of years battling this and he passed away on November fifth,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: twenty ten, so it was just it was really really.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Sad and devastating to all of us.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: Randy was he was such a great guy, and he
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: had a couple young kids and stuff, so it was
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: just it for me, it just took the wind out
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: of my sales for wanting to keep going on at
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: that point. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: there was so much momento, but it felt like, you know,
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: a snowball that's got huge, it just hits the brick wall,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: and at that point, there's it doesn't you don't want
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: to keep building that snowball. And it took me quite
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: a long time. I mean, Randy and I. Even one
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: of the last conversations we had together before he passed,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: he was like, you know, when are you going to
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: write again? And I told him it's just hard right
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: now with what's going on with him. And he's like,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: well maybe, He's like I want you to write again,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe someday you'll write a song about all
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: this kind of thing and so. And it took a
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: little over ten years, yeah, to get back to it,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: you know, but man, especially.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: So with that train coming to almost like an immediate halt.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Was there.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you would say like feelings of
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: regrets or anything like that, or or anything like that,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: especially since he was talking about O, hey keep going,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: keep going. But you're like, no, like this is not
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: this wasn't in the cards, this wasn't the plan, This
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: wasn't the way we wanted to do this. Yeah, what's
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: going through your head that entire time?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Truthfully?
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I mean like there's got to be like some feeling
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: of like, hey, we were on the precipice of the
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: next level, right, yeah.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: If I searched my heart deeply and I've thought about
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: this a lot there, I've never once had questions or
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: regrets or like the what ifs, which is kind of
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: weird because I think if somebody were to ask me
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: back then, would you regret just stopping immediately? But for
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: some reason, it just when Randy got sick, it just
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: kind of like changed my heart, and I felt.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Like it did with the other guys too. It just
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: didn't feel the same.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Without him, and it felt like peaceful to not keep going,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: even though we were in the height of so many
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: great things. It just felt like a settling. And I
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: don't know, it sounds weird, but it just never felt
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: like it was like, what if we would have kept going,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: you know, what would have happened. It just didn't feel
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: like that for any of us.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: And there was so much momentum.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Just before it too, so it's such a weird thing.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I just think he was and he brought
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: this older brother thing to all of us. He was
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: like ten years older, and yeah, he was kind of
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: a glue at that point, and bands on the road
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: get real messy, you know, and hard to hang out.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: You know, you're stuck in a van together all the time,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: and he brought something to it all that. When he
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: was gone, it was like no, like, we're just gonna
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: be done. And it was about ten years later that Scott,
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: who was the drummer of the Myriad, invited me to
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: we live in the same town now, and he invited
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: me to a Muse concert. We went together, we actually
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: brought our daughters together to this Muse concert in Sacramento,
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: and it was the craziest show I've ever seen.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And I've been to a lot of.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Great shows, but this was like they had a like
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: a flame thrower hooked up to the kick drum somehow.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: So when the drummer's like there's like fireballs going over
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: top of the crowd, Matt Bellamy is like shredding on
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: the shoulder of like a giant, you.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Know, thing moving behind him. And I'm like, this is
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the most insane thing I've ever seen.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: And my daughter, who was at the time like eleven,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: she looks at me and said, Dad, is this how
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: all rock concerts are.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: I'm like, no, you will never see what like this again.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: This is the best. But on the way home, Scott
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: was talking to me and he said.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Do you ever miss it?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, like I do, Like tonight I
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: missed it, you know, there's something about going to a
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: show where you're just like, I kind of want to
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: be on stage now, and I do miss those times
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: walking out and playing. We got to play some of
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: the coolest venues all over the United States, and I
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: love that feeling of walking out and sharing music with
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: a whole room full of people and that excitement that
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: everybody feels together. And so I told Scott I do
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: and he said, well, let's let's just write some songs.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: And I that was the first time I felt like, Okay, yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: like let's go. And so we started working and here
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: we are, like, I don't know, a year and a
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: half or so later, we've got half a dozen songs
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: and we're just our goal is to kind of put
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: out a song every month or two, and so we've
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: been doing that for really the The momentum picked up
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: this past summer and we've been putting out a song
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: about every month.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: So m that's exciting.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: One of the things I've always loved about the Myriad.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: And I know it sounds like from the history of
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: you guys that at the time that you were a band,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you weren't a producer, but there certainly is this kind
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: of just it just sounds like a It sounds like
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a band that is made by a producer. Like I
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: used to love Aaron Sprinkle stuff. Yeah, you know, anything
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: that he produced was great. I thought it was great.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: But then if you listen to his solo projects or yeah,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: just you know, like Fair and some of his other
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: solo stuff, you can just tell, like, even if it's
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: like not the most amazing album ever, you can just
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: tell like this is a guy that just clearly is
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: a producer. It just sounds good, it's well written, and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I always thought The Myriad was one of those bands.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: And again, I know at the time you weren't a producer,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: but it just sounds like a band that has some
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: sort of producer's ear that is involved in the band.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And so the fact that you guys are, especially now
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: with your producing experience, like I'm really excited to hear
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: more and more of these songs, just because I always
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: appreciated that aspect of the Myriad.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah that in the beginning of The Myriad, myself and
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: our guitar player, Stephen Tracy, we both worked at a
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: recording studio together and this is like I think we
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: met in two thousand and one, and he and I
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: were both aspiring producers, and there was that mindset for
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: sure going into everything we did.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: We were we were.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the word is, calculated or something
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: in the songwriting and even even doing things that like
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: bands that we aspired to be, like like Muse would
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: come out and it would be three guys, but it
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: sounded like it was the biggest thousand yeah, and they're
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: and we're like, they're playing with tracks, you know, And
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: so you know, the first time we went on the road,
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: we had like a laptop and pro tools and we
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: were playing with like sub bass and keyboard layers and
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff that nobody was doing unless
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: you were, like, you know, at the Muse kind of level.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: But no, like local bands are really doing that. But
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: we've got you know, we're all on in ears and
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: you know two thousand and two, two thousand and three
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: with click tracks and you know, and so it was
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: we we definitely brought like that producer like, let's make
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: sure if.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do this, we're gonna kill it. You know.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Well, that's it's interesting to say that because the first
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: thing I think of when I think of the myriad
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: is the most intriguing basslines. That's the very first thing
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I think of. And that's that's almost never the case
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: with any band that I listened to, ye unless I'm
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: talking about like the Who Rights. That's weird company to
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: be in. Yeah, all the way across you Guys's every
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: single song, the bass is the first thing that sticks.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Out to me.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: And it just it carries the melody so often, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it feels like it's much further it's placed much further
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: forward in the in the mix and everything. Was that
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: an intentional kind of move?
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: So our bass player John Roger Schofield, he's our original
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: bass player, and now we have a new bass player.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: But John is very creative and he's almost like out
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: there in a way where like us raining him in
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: a lot made like the most amazing bass lines happen
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: because he would want to go like way further than that,
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: you know, And it became a thing because he wasn't
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: just gonna hold it. He wasn't just going to play
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: bass like that was not John. So he would push
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: the and then we'd pull him way back and we
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: and then we ended up with something that was magic
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: because his basslines pulled back are like way crazier and
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: and interesting than you know. So in the band now
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: we've got this phenomenal bass player, Michael Norman Williams Esquire
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: the Third.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: And you know, coming into the band, we've never really
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: talked about like shoes to fill or that kind of thing,
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: but John John Schophil was quite the beast on bass,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: and so we just encourage Michael to think outside of
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: the or Michael Norman, Norman, Michael. He's got a lot
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: of names, so sometimes they just call him Esquire the Third,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: But we've just encouraged him, like, hey, dude, like be
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: like funky with the bass, you know, and find that
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: sort of pocket. And he's like okay, okay, you know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: and so yeah, and the stuff that he's sending is
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: like he's tapped into that sort of thing right right
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: out of the gates, which has been amazing.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say. Bass has always been a
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: really central part of the songs we wrote, from U
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: Cantri Sladder to even the old EPs through with Arrows
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: and then to now and so shout out to John
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: Rogers Schofield, awesome bass player, and also Norman Williams awesome
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: bass player, So it's like going from great to great,
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: just maybe two different approaches the bass, But I feel
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: like he's Norman's really kind of captured the sound of
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: the Myriad and just done such a great job. So yeah,
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: he's awesome.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Agreed.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: The songs that we've heard thus far are in the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: same vein Like I if I wouldn't have looked up
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: that you guys had a new bassist, I wouldn't have known.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's important people can be
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: themselves but also carry the sound of the band. It's like,
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: you know, Norman joining or even when I left the
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: band and Randy joined, Randy had his sound. He was
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: much more like a dynamic, hard hitting rock drummer, whereas
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: I'm a little more like, I don't know what you'd say,
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: like finesse groove, but can hit hard. And so it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: like you want them to be themselves and play the
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: parts the way they see fit, and I think Norman
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: does a great job at that. He's really captured the
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: sound but brought his own edge. He's got a like
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: rock grit to him. So he's awesome.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the sound with the some of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: new songs, at least the most recent song, it's called
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Something's in the Water, right, Yeah, Something's in the Water, Jeremy,
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: you mentioned at the very beginning something along the lines
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: of like, you know, you guys were in these SKA
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: bands and then you quit those bands. And I remember
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you said something around the lines of like, you know,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Radiohead was kind of like coming into their own and
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: and so you mentioned them. And as soon as I
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: heard Something's in the Water, I was like, this is
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: kidd A.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Obviously the it diverges a little bit into like typical
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Myriad type of sound, but the very beginning of that
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: song at least, I'm like, there's you for sure were
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: listening to Kida when you were writing that part right
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: the roads?
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, of course, yeah. I mean not when
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: I wrote this song, but in the production of it,
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: I actually started off on piano and it was a
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: totally different line than when it ended up being. But
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: I the more I heard as the song came together,
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: I was like, this needs like a roads, but like
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: not a normal roads. It's kind of a weird, big roads.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: And then I just put on kid A and I
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: was just like like that kind of roads, and.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So it's very different.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: It's a very different song, but it has the same
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: kind of roads sound at the beginning, which I've always loved.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: I remember the very first time I heard that song.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: It's the first song off that album.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Right, I'm pretty sure.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: Everything in that's right place, m hyah, everything.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: In its right place off Kida. So I remember I
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I borrowed my mom's She had this like I think
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: it was called a tiberon. It looked like a little batmobile.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: And I just remember sitting in the parking lot of
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Applebee's and the record had just come out, and I
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: borrowed my mom's car because the sound system was so good,
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: and I had this crappy little.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Sound system in my car. So I borrowed a car just.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: To listen to the album, and my friends were in
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the car with me, and I just put the CD in,
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: turned it up really loud, and it was just like.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: We all looked at each other, like what is happening?
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: This is the best thing ever? But yeah, that was
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget that.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: You know, it's such an unbelievable album. I mean, by
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: I think, just by far their best album.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Without a doubt.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: It's not my favorite album of theirs, but I think
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: pretty definitively can be stated as their best album.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so good, such a good one.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: You know something else that I've always found striking about
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: the myriad at old tunes and the new ones that
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: we've heard. Extremely accessible, right radio friendly even in many cases,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: but definitely not in a conventional way, very very complex
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: in its nature melodically especially, And that's the part that
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I find is such an interesting balance to strike that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think many bands really nail but you guys,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I mean consistently, have nailed it throughout your entire lifetime
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: as musical people.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: How do you do that?
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: Because that seems so difficult, Like there's just not bands
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: that do this very often, but you guys are It's
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: almost like you have a sixth sense for it.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Some of it when I approach, especially the learrics, I
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: feel kind of uncomfortable, like hitting the nail on the
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: head lyrically, Like I don't know if all of her
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: write like a really perfect like love song, I'll write
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of love songs, but they'll be a little
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: obscure and they'll be I don't know, exactly what it is,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: But I just I can't sing a song like that,
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: Like I have to be more metaphorical in the expression
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: and things and so. And I've always written from a
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: very visual place, So a lot of the songs I've
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: written will start out with me just dreaming about like
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: a little mini movie in my head, and how do
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: I tell that story in a four minute song? And
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: I was always obsessed with m Night Shyamalan films and
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: just sort of the mystery in those movies. But how
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: can we bring that kind of mystery into the songwriting?
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: And so that's and I've been criticized for it. I mean,
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: I've like when we had the whole MTV thing going on,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: we had a big song called you Waste Time like
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: a Grandfather Clock and the lyrics were written by John
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Roger Schofield or bass player and myself. And I remember
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: a label critiquing like different labeled people and MTV saying,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: you know, that song would have been huge if the
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: lyrics weren't so weird.
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: And I was just like okay with it, Like I'm like,
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: I'm not that guy.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be able to like I couldn't imagine
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: that song being like this perfectly accessible lyric that you know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just kind of my thing is
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: it's hard for me to get excited about that. But
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I'll listen to other people's music that's like, you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: hitting the nail right on the head, and I'll be like,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: that's a good chorus.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: But I'm like I would ever saying that.
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: I was also gonna say Jeremy also has like a
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: graveyard of songs that have not been released, like even
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: we have six songs that have come out in the
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: last year and a half. And I remember we were
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: working on our last single before this one currently, which
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: is Ghost on a Wire, and Jeremy was going back
• 46:19
  Speaker 6: and forth on ideas and like sending me stuff and
• 46:21
  Speaker 6: the other guy's stuff, and I felt like we reached
• 46:25
  Speaker 6: a point where I'm like, this is when I talked
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: to Jeremy, this is either gonna get released or it's not.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: Like he's kind of on the fence. I can tell,
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, I think this is a good song,
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: and he's like, I don't know. I'm gonna keep playing
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: with it and seeing what I can do. And I
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: think it's also like a credit to him in that
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: producer mindset, like he wants to put out the best material,
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: and I feel like these last six songs that we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: released have been a real reflection of him really, like
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: you know, taking a fine tooth comb to his production
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: process and the songwriting process and his lyrics and all
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: that and really getting something that's awesome. I've been, I mean,
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: I've been just blown away by some of the stuff
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: he's written and released. Every time I hear it, I'm
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: like getting excited, like this is amazing, man, Like I
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: get excited getting to play on it, you know. So
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: he's been doing a.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Good job with the writing, thank you.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: And there's a whole like twenty more songs that no
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: one will ever hear, unfortunately.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: But I think it's harder to write now than it
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: was back then with the lyrics because being a little
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: older and stuff like you.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: You just.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I think back then, maybe some of it was the
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: pressure of needing to like write a full album, but
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: it didn't matter so much, like you could write something
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: filler in the verse just to be done with the song.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: But now like it would just it'll eat at me
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: until I finally get that lyric just right, and I'll
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: be like Sleepless Nights. You know, it's harder now, like
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I just won't be like I just finish this one off.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: So it's it's been a little bit more of a
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: challenge in that way. But at the same time I
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: feel much more or proud or like resolved in the
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: in the song when it's exactly what I wanted to say.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, sort of along those lines. Knowing your experience
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: now as a producer, is there anything from the production
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: of those first two albums where you're like, I might
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: like as a producer maybe changed that production.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Thing just so.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: I saw an interview years ago with Jimmy Chamberlain, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: drummer of the Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, and they were asking
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: him about like old bands that he was in, like
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: a band called the Skittles or something, and he said
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: something about, like every every band that you're in or
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: every album you release is like a little bit of
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: a cringe, but it's all you love it all, but
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: it's this cringe that keeps you becoming greater and greater
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: and stuff. So it I mean, even before we got
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: on the interview today, Scott's like, dude, this guy sent
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: me like a bootleg of like every Myriad show from
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: two thousand and three to two thousand and eight.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Const he's like, it's amazing.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: And my wife said that I shouldn't show it to
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: you because she said you're not going to like it
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: and that you're much better singer now, and but I
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: really want to show it to you. And I'm like,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: you can show it to me, And so he starts
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: playing it and he's like, do you want me to
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: send you the link? And I was like, no, that's terrible, right,
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I think you know, listening to those albums
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: there there is the memories that come with it that's great,
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: and the bootlegs that he was showing me, and then
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: even the records you kind of you go back to
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: that moment of time instantly and it's it feels good.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: There's some nostalgia there, but on a production sense, and
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: even how I would sing and some of the lyrics,
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: like there's it cringe moments for sure, like I would
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: probably change that. I don't even know why I wrote
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: that lyric. I don't even know what that lyric means,
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: you know, like that kind of thing. So but yeah,
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: but it's all positive, but it like I don't like
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: hate it or anything like that. But it when I
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: listen back, I'm like, there's things I would change. But
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I even even now, like there's times where I'm like,
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: I kind of want to redo that song, you know,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: from like way back when, because there's like production elements
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: where I'm like, that would.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Be kind of sweet if we did this or this
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: or this. We haven't done that yet, yeah, version. Yeah.
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: So I think the only thing that you should maybe
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: be cringed or cringed feeling about is the hairstyles.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, those were.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Man, at the moment, I was like, Oh, that's such
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: cool hairstyle, And now I'm like, oh, man, I can't
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: believe it. Anyone I thought that looked good.
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the I dyed my hair black for like, yeah,
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: seven years, and I had the sweat bangs and yeah, what.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Was that called, like the French cut or something like that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: I know sometimes got out of control. I've got thick hair,
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: and so there's a few like, like most of the
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: pictures I'm like, yeah, I just looked like an emo kid.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: But then there's a few pictures where I've just got
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: the biggest, weirdest hair.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Ever and I've sent that.
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: I see it every now and then from something, you know,
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: like photo laying around the house, and I'll send it
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: to my friends back then and just be like, why
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: didn't any of you guys say something?
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: This is so out of control? What was going on?
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: Lion's Main, Dude, you have a Lion's man.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, It's like, wow, is that a helmet I put on?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: It's like.
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: It was like the It's like the emo Karen haircut
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: an A line. I think it's my wife used to
• 52:02
  Speaker 6: do hair, so I know these hairstyles. It's like the
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: A line and it came down like an Emo Karen.
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: You're about to ask to speak to the manager at
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: the guitar center.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: So bad.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, hey, at least guys made good music. Thinks it
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: works out all right? Well, speaking of good music. Top
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: five most influential albums?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Are we doing? Top five?
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Mason Er?
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Should we go? Top three?
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: I think top three for each, top three for each?
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: All right? Well?
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Definitely Radiohead, Okay, Computer That record just changed my whole
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: life and inspired me in so many ways. The Smashing Pumpkins.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: It's like kind of hard because I want to say
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: either Siamese Dreamer, Melancholy and the Infinite Infinite Sadness, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: more like Siamese Dream because that was high school for
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: me and that inspired me to want to play guitar
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: and start a band and all those things.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: What year did that one come out? Was that ninety five?
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: I think it was ninety five, and I think Okay
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Computer came out.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: In ninety seven, ninety seven, Yeah.
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: And then probably Muse Absolution, Oh yeah, yeah, especially like
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: with the sound of the Myriad and stuff like some
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: of those like the talk about basslines and stuff and
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: just the use of like the rock guitars with piano
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: and some of those elements and Matt Bellamy's singing style,
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: and that was very inspiring for me. We saw them,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: we all went to see them together in Seattle and
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: it was they played in front of like four hundred people.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: It was like one of their first US tours and
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: it was Absolution and it sounded just like the record.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: It was the most amazing sound ever in a tiny
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: little club with four hundred people and everybody was just jumping.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: I just I'll never forget the floor at one point
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: it was a wood floor and it started boeing.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was boeing. It was kind of terrifies, like
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: those videos you see people collapsing three Y're waiting for
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: it to collapse.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: I had this panic at one moment because it's just
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: like safe for rap solish and I'm feeling the floor
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm on a trampoline. And I
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: stopped jumping for a minute and I still am moving,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: and I'm like.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: We're all gonna die.
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: It was like this whole club's is gonna fall in
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: on itself.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: But it was still so good. I didn't care. I
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: was like, let's go. That's good. That's a good show. Yeah.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Muse as a band that I've never really quite gotten
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: into them so much, but I will say Bellamy and
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: just Muse in general are probably some of the better performers,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: especially over the last twenty five years. I mean, yeah,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: their shows are next level. Even if you're not like
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: a super big fan of the music, you almost have
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: to go to immune show just because they are some
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: of the best performers out there.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Was it Glastonbury where they like were they played to
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know, insane insanely large crowd and they somehow
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: were like able to reach the very very very very
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: back of the crowd. There's like a big live show
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: that I watched one time on.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Oh you know.
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: Those like those old cable television, not cable actually extended
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: cable television.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Like MTV two or something.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: It was like MTV fifty, I don't know, but they
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: always had live live concerts all the time, and I
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: just remember watching that being like, how is this even possible?
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he was like born for exactly what he's doing,
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: and like like in the Freddie Mercury kind of way,
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: like he's yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: I definitely would put him in that like lineage of
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: like that type of performer, Frederie Mercury, and I think,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: you know, some contemporary to him would be like another
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: one would be Brandon Flowers, like I think of him
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: being able to capture a crowd as well, and that
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: same vein. But yeah, certainly like Freddie Mercury David Bowie,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: like just their ability to just like capture a crowd
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: is it's pretty remarkable to have that kind of talent.
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: I would Jeff Buckley as well. Jeff Buckley actually a
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: little big influence on Matt Bellamy. Yeah, he was like,
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: oh yeah, you can sing like that like live as
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: a guy it's like one of his things, like you
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: can sing kind of pretty and you know, be a
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: second tenor and sound awesome and rock drew.
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, but he'll never do what Sexy Red can do.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: So I mean there's that.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Is that? What of yours?
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, Jeff Buckley for sure, like love his drummer, too,
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: fantastic drummer. I would say top three records probably YouTube,
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: Joshua Tree, Okay, Nirvana never mind. That's actually probably what
• 56:59
  Speaker 6: got me into guitar as a young young kid, sneaking
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: that cassette tape in my stereo. I wasn't supposed to
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: have it, and I was listening to it. I was
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: also listening to a lot more worse stuff.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: But got to explore that. We got to explore that
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: real quickly. So did you grow up in a very
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: strict household?
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I just yeah.
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: I mean my parents were Christian, but I would say
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: my mom was more of the Christian influence than my dad.
• 57:23
  Speaker 6: My dad was trying to figure it out. But it
• 57:25
  Speaker 6: just was like certain music types, you know, like everything
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: was the devil then, Like if you were a nineties kid,
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: oh yeah, every every music that wasn't like I know,
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: some like Christian Josanna music was the Devil. So, I
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: mean I loved Nirvana and I heard never Mind and
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: even bleached the record before that I got into as
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: a young kid. I was like, this is insane, and
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: then that's I kind of went and reverse and then
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: got into punk rock because of that. So and really
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: like that's I would say, what kind of led.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Me into drumming?
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: Because I loved the drumming and punk rock bands, and
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: so that's why I started playing drums while I was
• 58:01
  Speaker 6: playing guitar. But yeah, i'd say Nirvana, Nevermind and then
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: muse is it? What's the record?
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: Not?
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: I wanted to call it Muscle Museum, but that's the song.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: It's their first record, and I'm spacing.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: On the name. I can't think of the name, but
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: that's great.
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: I could look on my phone. I actually so the
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: song Muscle Museum. I stayed up. I was a big
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: pod fan. Shout out to them, Payable on Death. I
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: stayed up to watch the premiere of the Southtown Southtown
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: that song, and it was being premiered on MTV two,
• 58:33
  Speaker 6: like on one hundred and twenty minutes. I think it
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: used to be called and used to premiere new bands
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: and new music videos. Muse came on right before them,
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: and I was into Radiohead as well. Muse came out
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: and I was like, who is this band? And it
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: was Muscle Museum and he was doing he kind of
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: had like the I don't know what it's called. It's
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: like a distortion effect on his mic, you know I'm
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: talking about, Yeah, makes his voice sound like a guitar
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: and he was soloing with his vocals. I was like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 6: this is insane. And that's when I started listening to Muse.
• 58:57
  Speaker 6: I immediately went out and bought their CD. That record
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: and then Origin Symmetry, which is one of my all
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: time favorite records. So I'd say that's like top three
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: or four. Showbiz is the name of that first record,
• 59:09
  Speaker 6: show Biz, Thank You, thank you. Yes, such a good album.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Man.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I remember the first time I ever heard plug In
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Baby from Origin of Symmetry, and I was like, this
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: guitar lick, this guitar hook is just next level. I mean,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: I like, sometimes I'll just like I haven't I'll I'll
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: go like a long time, maybe years, without ever listening
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: to that song, and just every now and then it
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: will just pop into my mind and it just becomes
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: an earworm just because that guitar hook is just so addictive.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a heroin hit. I don't know if
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: that feels like, but I imagine that's what it's like.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: That's a great list. I'm actually really maybe not really surprised,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: but I just actually really appreciate that you both have
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: actually very similar lists, like similar era and we both
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: have mus on there, and so I actually kind of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: appreciate the fact that there's you know, there's a YouTube album,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: there's a Radiohead album. I'm not the kind of person
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: that wants to conflate the two, but I can see
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: why some people would complate the conflate those two bands
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But but yeah, I actually really appreciate
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: that there's so much similarity between both lists.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we're close to the same age and
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: we were swimming in the same pond musically, and it's yeah,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: I mean some of them on his list, I'm like, oh, Nirvana.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a little upset that there's not a there's
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: not a Ska band on there.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know there was some you know, like if
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: I I haven't listened to Ska on like a long time,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 6: but I would. I love five Iron Frenzy.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: We love five Iron.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: They're great.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: In fact, so I used to drum and Project any
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: six for like three years.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I played for.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: Project Yeah, and my last show in the band was
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: with Five Iron. It was awesome because I was like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: a guy that was in a SKA band and looked.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Up to them.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: I was like, this is a cool way to go out.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: My last Showy six on New Year's Even, Denver, Colorado,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: in their hometown. It was really really memorable. We filmed
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: a music video too, for Fall Goliath fall Off. I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: can't remember record.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: It's like two wait, what years did you drum for Project.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 6: Twenty eleven to twenty thirteen? Okay, yeah, Andrew and I
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: still play video games together sometimes. He's a good hell yeah,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: he's a wild man.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: He is wild.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: Hello of that guy.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: He's a good guy. Yeah, me too.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: He's got a he's got a strange mind, but it's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: a it's it's the right kind of strange.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: Great lyricist man. He writes their newest records that the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: dual record, Oh my gosh.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I was texting.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: I was like, dude, this record is insane. Bro you're
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: tapping into something new.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that dude is just like constantly creating something like
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: he will even when eventually at some point project will end,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: right and he will be creating something else like He's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: just he will create until the day he dies.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 6: I think so, I think so mm hmm.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an artist through and through. So well, thanks
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: again for the list. What do you guys want to pluck?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Obviously we can probably expect a few more songs, Yeah,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: what do you guys want to pluck? And audio feed too?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: It we didn't really talk much about audio feed, but yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: you guys are playing a show here? Is that in July?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: July fifth, fifth? Yeah, we're headlining the Tuned Up Music
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: Stage on July fifth, Saturday night.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Heck, yes, is that you guys' first show back in
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: however many years, ten years or fifteen years now?
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: No pressure, it is. Yeah, it'll be fun. I mean, it's.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: We've talked so much about this, but Scott like cannot
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: wait to get back out. And for me, it there's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: kind of a dance to it because I want to,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: Like there's part of me is just like I just
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: go do it.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: But then there's another part of me.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: It's just like I want to be like ready, Like
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 4: I want to, but how do you get ready without
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: doing it?
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: And then there's you know, do we wait for some
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: opportunity or do we just go play like Audio Feed Festival,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: you know. So I don't know. Scott's stretching me. You know,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: it's it. It is hard to to go.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: From like.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: The last time I tell Scott, you know, the last
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: time I played, we were on a tour bus and
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: like we played two sold out shows in my hometown
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: with like a thousand people, five hundred people at the
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: door because they couldn't get in. I don't want to
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: go play like a you know, a little club or
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: something that's kind of funny. But Scott's like, dude, let's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: play the Dip. It reminds me of some of the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: old clubs we used to play in Seattle. It holds
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: like one hundred and forty people.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I want to play.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: The No, it's cool. It's a local venue here in Reading.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: But I think, to Jeremy's point, it's just a matter
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: of doing the right shows at the right time. I
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 6: think we're just continuing to make new music and if
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: it makes sense, it'll make sense. Like I think we're
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: all need to be on the same page. And audio
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: feed made sense, and yeah.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: It'll be fun.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, audio feed would be good. We're still considering, you know,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: some club shows and things like that, so we'll sort
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: that out.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: I think my favorite part of getting back together and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: all that is is the writing part, you know it.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: It feels like, you know, painting again or something. It's like,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: and I could do that forever. Loading into a van
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: together and hitting the road.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: But with the right opportunities, like you know, there's been
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 4: a few times where I'm like, yeah, we got a
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: call from you know, Expand or this, we're friends with
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: these guys or whatever.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: Of course, like go out for like a couple of weeks,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: I'd be a total brodeo, you know. So it's just
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: waiting for those like awesome opportunities.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I wish when you head out to uh to Illinois
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: in the middle of July, you won't have to hit
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: any black ice.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes we're flying, so no black eyes, but you
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: never know.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cool, what do you guys? What else do you guys?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Want to plug m Yeah, so just keep an eye
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: out because we're right now, we're in writing mode.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: We're constantly writing.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 4: So, like Scott said, we just had this song, something
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Is in the Water come out like a month ago.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: We released a music video with it. Go check that out.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: It's on YouTube and iTunes and all that or Apple Music,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: I guess, and then all that. So but then keep
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: an eye out because we've got we'll have another one
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: coming out next month, in the month after that.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep going so awesome.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: I heard the next song that you guys are releasing.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It has something to do with the JFK files, right,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: like some some of the lyrics have to do with
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: like like you were gonna leak some of the JFK
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: files and unfortunately those got leaked out before for your
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: before you were able to get the song out. But
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: I heard something that isn't that right.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: So I had been doing like a really deep dive
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: in twenty thirteen, which went to twenty fifteen on the files,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: and had met some people that were familiar got some
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: of the files leaked.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: So we're trying.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: We're just debating because now they're all all all the
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: files are coming out, but we're about to drop this
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: song that's just gonna it's a lot of the unredacted stuff.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: Or the redacted stuff, the stuff that they aren't going
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: to release at this drop, we're going to release in
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: our song. So it's gonna be in the bridge of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: the song. We just spilled the beans on everything.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 6: A lot of binary.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: So the song's called it wasn't Oswald, right, Yeah, it's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: called well, yeah, it wasn't Oswald.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: It was him and someone else is what the song
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: is called. But it was him and someone Else's in parentheses,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: so keep it.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Did hear that?
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: Another song that you guys were working on is Golf
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: of America. So it's something in the Water. I think
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: it's like like innuendo, a kind of messaging, right, or
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: subliminal messaging. Something in the water dot dot dot Golf
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: of America. So what are you guys thinking here? I'm
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: trying to decipher.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 4: The message, oh of the song Something's in the Water.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And and and then the next song that you
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: guys are working on.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: You know, so in all truthfulness that the song Something's
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: in the Water. I actually wrote that right after listening
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: to the November thirteenth hearing, the Congressional hearing on UAP phenomena.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: That's actually real.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: That's not a joke.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: So I've been following the congressional hearings and I've always
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: been very fascinated and intrigued. And so on November thirteenth,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: they had these different experts there. One of them worked
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: on submarines and they've been tracking things under the water.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: One of them worked one of them was like a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: pilot with the US Air Force, and they had seen
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: like the tic TACs and whatever, and they have all
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: these experts, and you just don't you don't get any
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: further because anytime they ask them a real question, they're like,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: I can tell you that we're gonna have to meet
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: in a private skiff or whatever. And so the song
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: doesn't it just asks the questions. The choruses, you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: are we the fools believing a lie?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: What's the chorus?
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 5: Are we the ones that yeah?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Or are we the one?
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: Are we the fools believing a lie?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Are we the ones who light up the skies? Or
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: could it be aliens in the night. Secrets don't lie,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: and our secrets don't die. And so the the song
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: is it. It's about that whole mystery and about the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: conspiracy to kind of keep it covered up. But it's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: not necessarily saying one way or another anything definitive, you know,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: so sure, I'm just curious about it all.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: That's why the next one is about the JFK files. Man,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: you're just continuing down that conspiracy trail.
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  Speaker 1: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: It's like basically like the next blank win.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it belongs to me.
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  Speaker 3: So he's got the band to take on tour.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, man, he loves the UFO stuff.
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  Speaker 5: That's awesome, be fun.
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  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you guys so much for chatting more about
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: the Myriad again. You guys have been a band that
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: we've been listening to over fifteen years, fifteen to twenty years,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: and so you guys have been a part of our
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: lives for a while, and so thanks so much for
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: chatting about it. And we're just really excited that you
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: guys are back making new music. The world needs more
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Myriad than music in the world. So I'm a big
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: fan that that that's happening.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks so much, Thank you guys.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks guys.
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  Speaker 1: Last