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Sharri |14 May · Sharri

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Speaker 1: I show you I think he did. Look it was
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Speaker 1: a refreshing speech and a much needed confidence boosted, not
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Speaker 1: only for him, but to put a bit of pep
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Speaker 1: in the step of a coalition that is badly needing
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Speaker 1: some momentum. And it was refreshing to hear a political
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Speaker 1: leader talk passionately about economic growth. Remember that phrase, economic growth.
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Speaker 1: We haven't heard from it for a while. But not
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Speaker 1: only refreshing to hear him speak about economic growth, but
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Speaker 1: actually put forward a suite of policies that will actually
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Speaker 1: affect change, Will they actually build economic growth in this country.
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Speaker 1: And you know, for too long we've had a government
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Speaker 1: that liked to talk about economic growth but actually either
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Speaker 1: inadvertently or on purpose, put policies in place that act
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Speaker 1: as a handbrake on economic growth. And to be frank,
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Speaker 1: for too long we've had a coalition, a liberal party
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Speaker 1: that has been too afraid to talk about the economy,
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Speaker 1: too afraid to fight on the economy, tool afraid to
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Speaker 1: have an argument on tax, the government that has had
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Speaker 1: a poor record on tax. So I think there's enough
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Speaker 1: in tonight to give the coalition some momentum, something to
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Speaker 1: fight on, something to fight for, and let's face it,
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Speaker 1: if they can't land a blow on a government who
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Speaker 1: handed down a budget on Tuesday night, that is arguably
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Speaker 1: reckless and arguab will set the economy back years, if
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Speaker 1: not decades. If they can't lay a glove on this
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Speaker 1: type of government, then give up now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, and the main political
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Speaker 2: battle now will be on tax It will be on taxation. James,
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Speaker 2: from a one nation perspective, did you agree with much
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Speaker 2: of what Angus Taylor outlined tonight?
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Speaker 3: Well, some of it, of course we agreed, because it's
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Speaker 3: straight from one nation's playbook. The simple fact is the
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Speaker 3: migration or rapid rise in immigration into Australia over the
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Speaker 3: last decade or more has been a result of both
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Speaker 3: the Coalition and Labor. This isn't just Labour's issue. Coalition
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Speaker 3: were doing it well before when they had the power
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Speaker 3: to actually do something about it. But because as you've mentioned,
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Speaker 3: per capita recession the households have been facing, they've used
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Speaker 3: immigration as a means of securing GDP or increasing the
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Speaker 3: GDP there within the country. But they've had opportunities. I've
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Speaker 3: seen this government up close when they had power and
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Speaker 3: they did nothing about these problems. We had to drag
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Speaker 3: them kicking and screaming on many issues. One for example,
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Speaker 3: we could see the writing on the wall with volume
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Speaker 3: of immigrants coming into the country and the lack of
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Speaker 3: tradespeople coming into the industry. So that is why One
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Speaker 3: Nation forced the Coalition at the time to implement a
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Speaker 3: tradesman scheme where apprentices were coming on at twelve hundred.
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Speaker 3: One nation managed to get out of the coalition through
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Speaker 3: our negotiations.
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Speaker 4: And it was so successful.
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Speaker 3: Those twelve hundred spots were filled in just three weeks
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Speaker 3: across this country, and they later adopted that again at
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Speaker 3: the next election. But look, I thought Angus was very
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Speaker 3: wooden tonight. I would have liked to have seen him
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Speaker 3: address things a lot better. More naturally, I didn't see
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Speaker 3: long term vision either. I saw a very short term
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Speaker 3: vision in a lot of the policies that were put
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Speaker 3: forward tonight. Whereas One Nation in Paul and Hanson's budget
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Speaker 3: reply speech, which will be on the Senate very shortly,
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Speaker 3: we'll talk about a long term investment scheme into this country,
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Speaker 3: whereby we're building dams, we're building inland rail, we're building
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Speaker 3: the what is formerly known as the Iron boomerang from
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Speaker 3: Wa to Queensland, where we take iron ore from one side,
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Speaker 3: bring it to Queensland, and then we return coal to
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Speaker 3: Western Australia so that we can get our steel mills.
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Speaker 4: Back up and running and be self sufficient.
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Speaker 3: There is no vision from either Labor or the Coalition
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Speaker 3: on where Australia will be in twenty fifty, which isn't
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Speaker 3: a long way away. But if we don't start planning
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Speaker 3: now as a government, we will full flat on our.
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Speaker 4: Face, especially as we face and we stare this.
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Speaker 3: Down very quickly now the introduction of artificial intelligence. We've
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Speaker 3: got some really grim times ahead of us, and neither
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Speaker 3: of these government, the opposition or the government are looking
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Speaker 3: at it.
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Speaker 2: Andrew both James Ashby just then and Ross Greenwood before
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Speaker 2: commented or were critical of Angus Taylor's delivery. And the
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Speaker 2: reality is that he does need to sell himself. He's
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Speaker 2: up against Pauline Hansen, who's very well known to the
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Speaker 2: Australian electorate. He does need to increase his profile. He's
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Speaker 2: new in the job. Would you have liked to have
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Speaker 2: seen a bit more about him personally, but also his
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Speaker 2: personality come through.
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Speaker 1: I think he'll get there it's a confidence thing. He's
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Speaker 1: new in the role, and let's face it, in this
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Speaker 1: week he's up against a treasurer who is a very
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Speaker 1: good communicator. Now he's probably the exact opposite of Jim
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Speaker 1: Charmers and the fact that he's not a great communicator
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Speaker 1: compared to Jim, but he's a much better thinker on
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Speaker 1: the economy. So if that's what he's talking about tonight,
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Speaker 1: then then I'm fine with the delivery, if the substance
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Speaker 1: is good. Now he will build into this role. He
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Speaker 1: will get more comfortable the more time he spends in
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Speaker 1: front of the microphone, in front of the cameras. He'll
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Speaker 1: build on that and you'll see much more of a
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Speaker 1: leader speaking directly to the country, which it probably didn't
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Speaker 1: get tonight. There probably wasn't those moments where he looked
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Speaker 1: down the lens and just delivered a crisp line to
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Speaker 1: the people. And I think that will come. That will
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Speaker 1: come with the more times he's put in that spotlight,
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Speaker 1: the more time he's put under pressure.
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Speaker 2: Except time is the one thing he doesn't have with
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Speaker 2: where the polling sitting at the moment, and how well
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Speaker 2: one nation is doing. In particular, James I just want
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Speaker 2: to check. Are there any new announcements in Polingson's speech
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Speaker 2: tonight her budget reply speech.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there'll be some considerable ones.
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Speaker 3: We will allude to the changes in gas policy that
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Speaker 3: will be thoroughly investigated and delivered more broadly to the
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Speaker 3: public next week in South Australia when the gas industry
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Speaker 3: meets down there. It's a massive convention, So that's I
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Speaker 3: think next Thursday afternoon. That will be delivered in full
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Speaker 3: the guitar, but there'll be more insight there. Yeah, in
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Speaker 3: tonight's speech there's certainly a greater insight into what we'll do.
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Speaker 3: We will get Australia out of the Paras Accord. I
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Speaker 3: know Angus Taylor touched on getting out of net zero,
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Speaker 3: but the reality is you're in it. While you're in
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Speaker 3: the Paris Accord, we make him very clear as one nation.
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Speaker 4: We're out of it.
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Speaker 3: We'll scrap the safeguard mechanism at the end of the day.
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Speaker 3: That was legislation that was implemented by Tony Abbott and
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Speaker 3: the Coalition and it has plagued industry here in Australia
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Speaker 3: and these things are what are holding us back. We'll
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Speaker 3: also that will be scrapping the GST on building products
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Speaker 3: so that we can make things cheaper to get into
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Speaker 3: a house, and remove the red, black and green tape.
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Speaker 3: These are the things that Angus Taylor talks about. But
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Speaker 3: they had nine years to do it while in government
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Speaker 3: and they did not do a single thing.
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Speaker 4: They sat on their hands. They were too afraid.
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Speaker 3: And I'm afraid it's a very similar lineup that still
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Speaker 3: remains that wants to govern this country again.
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Speaker 4: I don't think they've.
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Speaker 3: Got the courage to follow through with the commitments they
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Speaker 3: say they were prepared to make tonight.
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Speaker 2: I mean listening to James Ashby there Andrew. You know,
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Speaker 2: one nation has you know, policies that they've held for
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Speaker 2: a long period of time. The Liberal Party has changed policies.
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Speaker 2: It didn't have any policies under Susan Lee. This is
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Speaker 2: the issue, isn't it.
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Speaker 5: Well.
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Speaker 1: I think on immigration, that is a classic case of
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Speaker 1: trying to win back some of the support or a
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Speaker 1: lot of the support that has gone to one nation,
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Speaker 1: whether that be through the welfare measures that were mentioned
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Speaker 1: tonight or the housing measures. One nation has done an
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Speaker 1: exceptional job of talking about immigration through the lens of
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Speaker 1: the economy, That's why they've taken ground off the Liberal
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Speaker 1: Party is because they're talking about immigration through an economic lens.
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Speaker 1: They've made it an economic problem. They're not talking about
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Speaker 1: it through racial religion. They're not harping on about or
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Speaker 1: concentrating on values while they are important and they are
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Speaker 1: addressed by angus. Tonight, they're talking about the economy. They're
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Speaker 1: talking about the stresses on homes. They're talking about the
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Speaker 1: stresses on hospitals, on schools, on roads. That is what
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Speaker 1: is irritating the public. You know, the biggest on our
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Speaker 1: numbers at ceed T, the biggest group that is gravitating
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Speaker 1: towards one nation a middle aged women, those age between
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Speaker 1: thirty five and fifty five. Why are they going towards
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Speaker 1: one nation is because they're talking about immigration through the economy.
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Speaker 1: They're looking at their kids and thinking, well, how are
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Speaker 1: they going to afford a home? How are they going
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Speaker 1: to get a job in an economy where there's a
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Speaker 1: high immigration rate. That is why they're winning.
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Speaker 2: Well out of time. Andrew Caswell, James Ashby, great to
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Speaker 2: have you both on all right.
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Speaker 2: Renters embracing for double digit rant hikes as a result
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Speaker 2: of the budget and We'll cross live to London where
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Speaker 8: Welcome back.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: Kiir Starmer's leadership is now openly under siege, with Where's
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Speaker 2: Streeting expected to resign as Health Secretary and try and
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Speaker 2: foss a leadership contest. Joining me now is talk TV
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Speaker 2: host Phil Dave. Phil, Thanks for your time. So what
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Speaker 2: is the latest? It's morning in London. What is the
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Speaker 2: latest right now with Kir Starmer.
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Speaker 9: It's a very good question, shery, because to be perfectly honestly,
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Speaker 9: I'm not entirely sure anyone really knows, because it's such
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Speaker 9: a rapidly changing story. But the latest that we have
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Speaker 9: got confirmed is that obviously, as we know, Sir Kirs
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Speaker 9: Starmer is possibly facing the most perilous time of his
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Speaker 9: premiership so far. Were's Streeting, who is, as things stand,
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Speaker 9: technically in the Health Secretary, although so there are some
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Speaker 9: reports suggesting he has already resigned from that position is
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Speaker 9: getting ready to launch something in the way of a
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Speaker 9: leadership bid and a leadership contest.
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Speaker 8: But yet the latest report suggests that he.
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Speaker 9: Possibly doesn't have enough backing from MPs to be able
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Speaker 9: to do that. He needs to reach that magic number
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Speaker 9: of around eighty eighty one people, and apparently he says,
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Speaker 9: oh no, there are reports that say he doesn't have it,
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Speaker 9: but he says he does, So who do we believe?
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Speaker 9: And then, of course that's not forgetting the former Deputy
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Speaker 9: Prime Minister Angela Rayner, who of course, so the cameras
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Speaker 9: is saying she wants to bring everyone together, but then
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Speaker 9: there are conflicting reports that say that she's also planning
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Speaker 9: a leadership challenge. So it really is quite extraordinary times
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Speaker 9: in Britain at the moment.
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Speaker 2: And so she's the reports are in the papers this
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Speaker 2: morning that she's repaid a debt in order to be
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Speaker 2: able to stand for the leadership. Explain that to us.
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Speaker 9: Okay, so what happened was is that HMRC, the Revenue people,
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Speaker 9: basically said that Rainer had done something in the way
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Speaker 9: of not paying the correct amount of money on a
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Speaker 9: propercy that she won owned and as a result of it,
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Speaker 9: for as long as that was an outstanding issue that constitutionally,
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Speaker 9: if you like, you've never don't really have a constitution,
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Speaker 9: but the law would state that she wouldn't be able
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Speaker 9: to run for leadership or indeed be in a position
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Speaker 9: of power like that for as long as this was
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Speaker 9: hanging overhead. Now, of course, she has denied any wrong doing,
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Speaker 9: but she also announced this morning that she actually has
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Speaker 9: settled any disagreement with HMRC. Some might say, curious time,
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Speaker 9: when so many months have gone by, when people have
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Speaker 9: been crying out for her to actually come clean and
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Speaker 9: say exactly what the problem was, so again leading to
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Speaker 9: further speculation that she too is preparing to launch leadership.
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Speaker 2: There were some reports this week that Keirs Starmer, in
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Speaker 2: an act of extreme desperation, could call a general election,
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Speaker 2: which isn't due until twenty twenty nine. That's not likely,
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Speaker 2: is it.
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Speaker 9: Well, you say it's not likely, but I mean if
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Speaker 9: you would have asked me a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 9: was it likely that Starma would be standing firm and
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Speaker 9: saying I'm not going anywhere. I'm still going to be
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Speaker 9: the Prime Minister, even after one of the worst local
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Speaker 9: election results that I think any politician has seen that alone,
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Speaker 9: any labor politician has seen in this country.
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Speaker 8: Well, then you could have fooled me.
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Speaker 9: But I'd say that it is likely that given his personality,
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Speaker 9: and given how stubborn he is, and frankly how just
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Speaker 9: obstinate he is as well, nothing would surprise me if
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Speaker 9: he says, well, if I can't be leader, then none
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Speaker 9: of you can. And I wouldn't be surprised if he
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Speaker 9: does call a general election, but at the moment there's
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Speaker 9: certainly nothing.
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Speaker 8: I'd love it if he did. It was fantastic.
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Speaker 2: Suggest Nigel Farage, wouldn't it.
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Speaker 9: Polling would certainly suggest that Niger farrag would become the
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Speaker 9: next Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, if indeed there
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Speaker 9: was a general election to day tomorrow whenever, But who knows.
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Speaker 9: I mean, the polls can often get it wrong. The
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Speaker 9: polls very clearly said that Britain would remain in the
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Speaker 9: European Union, and thankfully the polls were wrong, so I
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Speaker 9: always take them with a little bit of a pinch
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Speaker 9: of salt.
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Speaker 8: But I would say that there's a.
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Speaker 9: Strong chance that for our would be the next prime
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Speaker 9: minister if a general election was indeed called.
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Speaker 2: So just the timing of it. Obviously Starma hasn't emerged,
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Speaker 2: is bunker down in hiding. But but can you give
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Speaker 2: us any sense of what you're expecting, how you're expecting
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Speaker 2: today to play out.
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Speaker 9: Well, I imagine that based on what we've seen so far,
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Speaker 9: we are going to see in the next twenty four
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Speaker 9: forty eight hours announcements from both Wes Streeting and Angela
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Speaker 9: Raina saying that they are indeed going to launch leadership
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Speaker 9: challenges to the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 8: I think that the Prime.
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Speaker 9: Minister will stand again anyway and say, look, I'm the leader.
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Speaker 9: I want to carry on being leader. You tell me,
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Speaker 9: MPs do you think I can do this? And if
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Speaker 9: that's the case, we may actually have a situation where
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Speaker 9: we go through all of this drama and he's still
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Speaker 9: the Prime Minister, He's still the leader of the Labor Party.
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Speaker 8: Who knows what will play out.
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Speaker 9: But that's what I think the big announcements will be
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Speaker 9: for the next twenty four forty eight hours, is that
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Speaker 9: there will be certain prominent Labor politicians who will announce
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Speaker 9: that they are planning to replace Kistarma just very quick.
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Speaker 2: Feel Finally, I was really actually I was quite angered
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Speaker 2: by Prince Harry today. And I don't usually get angered.
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Speaker 2: I genuinely don't buy Prince Harry and Meghan, but I
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Speaker 2: was so angry by this essay he wrote today where
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Speaker 2: he was in effect blaming Jews, blaming the Jewish State
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Speaker 2: of Israel for the rise in anti Sebadism. I think
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Speaker 2: that was absolutely grotesque.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not going to pretend to be utterly delighted
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Speaker 9: with that sentiment, because, of course, as we know, there
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Speaker 9: is absolutely nothing to suggest that Israel is responsible. People
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Speaker 9: might use it as an excuse, but you certainly can't
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Speaker 9: go blaming Israel for trying to defend themselves against.
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Speaker 8: A despot terrorist regime.
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Speaker 9: I would like to think any Western country would do
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Speaker 9: exactly the same thing. But in terms of Prince Harry,
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Speaker 9: when we consider that at one time in his existence
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Speaker 9: he thought it was a good idea going to a
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Speaker 9: fancy dress party dressed as a Nazi, I'm not exactly
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Speaker 9: going to take any lectures on how to tackle anti
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Speaker 9: Semitism from him.
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Speaker 2: Couldn't have said it better feel great to have you
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Speaker 2: on the show. Thank you very much for your time. Now,
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Speaker 2: we covered last night this disgraceful report in the New
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Speaker 2: York Times that published such absurd allegations of Israel training
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Speaker 2: dogs to rape Palestinians. Well, at the same time as
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Speaker 2: they published that nonsense, there was a new three hundred
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Speaker 2: page report on sexual violence during the October seven attacks
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Speaker 2: that is harrowing. The Civil Commission on October seven Crimes
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Speaker 2: by Harmas against Women and Children has found sexual violence
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Speaker 2: was not incidental, not isolated, but systemic and integral to
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Speaker 2: the Hamas led massacre. The report documents thirteen types of
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Speaker 2: sexual violence, including rape, gang rape, sexual torture, mutilation, post
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Speaker 2: mortem sexual abuse, and attacks on hostages, based on more
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Speaker 2: than four hundred and thirty testimonies, interviews and meetings. And
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Speaker 2: joining me now is the founder and chair of the
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Speaker 2: Civil Commission, doctor kochav El Caayam Levy. Thank you very
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Speaker 2: much for joining me. So what are the key findings
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Speaker 2: from your report?
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Speaker 6: So we've been, as you said, collecting materials, videos, images
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Speaker 6: from the attack itself that Hamas put on telegram Twitter,
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Speaker 6: glorifying the attack, putting women and men children in very
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Speaker 6: sensitive situation. We started collecting this, we collected the testimony.
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Speaker 6: So this is what we did for two years and
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Speaker 6: after immersing ourselves in the evidence. We found that Hamas
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Speaker 6: really conducted sexual violence as a strategy, that it was
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Speaker 6: conducted in a similar way, with exceptional cruelty against victims,
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Speaker 6: against families, against hostages in captivity, in ways that you know.
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Speaker 6: I'm glad that now the world knows we've done it
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Speaker 6: under the most compelling, infinancial standards of documentation, for the
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Speaker 6: world to know and perhaps to start confronting it.
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Speaker 4: In a way.
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Speaker 2: It's terrible that you actually had to compile such a
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Speaker 2: thorough and rigorous report because we heard so much testimony,
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Speaker 2: you know, many media interviews where young women, you know,
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Speaker 2: former hostages, spoke out about their experiences. And yet still
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Speaker 2: the rape of Jewish women on October seven was routinely
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Speaker 2: denied by the left.
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Speaker 6: So I myself am an international law school I teach.
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Speaker 6: I teach human rights law, feminist theory, and I found
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Speaker 6: myself amazed by the denial, by the silence, by questioning,
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Speaker 6: and the hesitation to respond to these crimes. So this
19:44
Speaker 6: is what we did. It motivated us on a daily
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Speaker 6: basis to continue reviewing materials, analyzing them, despite the trauma,
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Speaker 6: despite the difficulty. I want to say that very few
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Speaker 6: in the world have agreed to watch this and to
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Speaker 6: analyze and of course to take this as a mission.
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Speaker 6: But we felt that we want to ensure that someone
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Speaker 6: looks at them, that someone gives them, you know, as
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Speaker 6: a final act of justice, to tell the world what
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Speaker 6: happened to them, and to give a space for families,
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Speaker 6: for survivors, for hostages to talk about what happened to
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Speaker 6: them and preserve it for historical for the historical record.
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Speaker 6: And I want to say something, I don't think we
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Speaker 6: have enough words or legal definitions to describe the hell
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Speaker 6: that hostages have endured for months. And the report also
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Speaker 6: opens with their quote of Ricaldo Luke, mother of Shani
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Speaker 6: Luk her she had to watch her daughter being dragged
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Speaker 6: into Gaza on the back of the car, her body
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Speaker 6: almost naked. The crowds in Gaza are spitting over our body,
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Speaker 6: surrounded by armed men, and this is how they discovered
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Speaker 6: she was dead. It was only confers around a few
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Speaker 6: months later, but she tells them on the moments they
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Speaker 6: saw her body as devastating moments. And I want to
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Speaker 6: say that bearing witness to the suffering and death of
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Speaker 6: loved ones is something that is unbearable.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the stories are beyond devastating. I've interviewed from hostages
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Speaker 2: myself who spoke about what they went through, all what
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Speaker 2: other women that they were in captivity with went through,
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Speaker 2: and it's just sound in me that the mainstream media,
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Speaker 2: with the left media, really haven't cared enough about this
21:36
Speaker 2: over the past two and a half years and have
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Speaker 2: preferred instead to demonize Israel. And this is even the
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Speaker 2: case for people who claim to be advocates of sexual
21:47
Speaker 2: assault and rape. It's been really horrific. Well, doctor kochav
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Speaker 2: Elkim leeby, thank you for putting your work into this.
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Speaker 2: It's incredibly important and I appreciate you joining us on
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Speaker 2: the program this evening.
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Speaker 6: Thank you so much for having all.
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Speaker 2: Right Still to come, we'll get more budget analysis as
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Speaker 2: young Australians are bracing for higher rents with former Treasury
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Speaker 2: Assistant Secretary David Pearl.
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Speaker 8: That's after the break.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. Well, let's get more reaction now to Angus
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Speaker 2: Taylor's budget reply speech and joining me now is former
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Speaker 2: Treasury Assistant Secretary David Pearl. David, great to see you.
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Speaker 4: Look.
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor tonight promised a permanent instant asset right off
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Speaker 2: for businesses with a toneover up to ten million dollars.
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Speaker 2: So this allows for immediate deductions for assets up to
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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars, increasing it from twenty thousand dollars, and
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Speaker 2: he said it would be permanent. How important is this policy?
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Speaker 7: Look, the policy will help small businesses and maybe medium
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Speaker 7: sized businesses with turnovers up to a million dollars, but
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Speaker 7: it's not really the main game. The main game is
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Speaker 7: to lower the corporate tax rate in Australia, which is
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Speaker 7: uncompetitive by international standards. That's what Paul Keating did in
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Speaker 7: the eighties and that's all we need to do now
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Speaker 7: because there's a global competition for capital. And it's not
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Speaker 7: just smaller medium businesses, as important as they are to
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Speaker 7: the economy. It's big multinationals who want to attract and
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Speaker 7: to keep here.
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Speaker 2: What do you think it should be lowered to.
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Speaker 7: It should be competitive, so twenty five twenty percent. But look,
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Speaker 7: I think the priority for the economy is to get
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Speaker 7: our supply side right and to lower cost of labor
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Speaker 7: and energy. And I thought Taylor was quite strong on
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Speaker 7: net zero. What I would like to see from him
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Speaker 7: is to be more specific about phasing out renewables or
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Speaker 7: reducing the renewables share. And I was a little bit
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Speaker 7: disappointed by the bracket creep commitment. If the principle is
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Speaker 7: bracket creep is outrageous, then why only limit immediate relief
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Speaker 7: to people earning less than one hundred and thirty thousand
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Speaker 7: dollars a year. To me, that plays into Labour's hands.
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Speaker 7: It's dividing the electorate into the more and the less deserving.
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Speaker 7: So I do think good on him for abolishing bracket creep,
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Speaker 7: but he's really undercut the principled case and the pressure
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Speaker 7: he'd put on labor by differentiating between people earning more
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Speaker 7: and less than a certain amount of money.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was my reaction as well, that he should
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Speaker 2: just do it for everyone, not separated into stages and
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Speaker 2: so far down the track. But this is an important
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Speaker 2: tax This is genuine tax reform.
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Speaker 4: Though.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it indexing the tax thresholds to inflation?
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Speaker 7: It absolutely is, because bracket creep, as you and your
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Speaker 7: viewers know, penalizes people when they get a wage increase
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Speaker 7: to compensate them for inflation. And just think about it.
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Speaker 7: We index every welfare payment under the sun. We don't
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Speaker 7: index what taxpayers pay to Canberra. We're one of the
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Speaker 7: few o city countries that don't do that. Malcolm Fraser
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Speaker 7: tried at nineteen seventy six. I think the Treasury Department
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Speaker 7: talked him out of it. It's a lazy way to
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Speaker 7: raise income and over time, Sharry bracket creep increases the
25:17
Speaker 7: size of government. So all of Jim Chalmer's personal income
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Speaker 7: tax cuts and that two hundred and fifty dollars payment,
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Speaker 7: they're all going to be wiped out by bracket creep.
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Speaker 7: That's why he's offering them, because he knows it we'll
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Speaker 7: all be clawed back. It's complete fraud.
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Speaker 4: The Liberals have played.
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Speaker 7: Along with it for decades and good on Angers Taylor
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Speaker 7: for finally saying enough is enough. But finally it really
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Speaker 7: shot himself in the foot on that.
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Speaker 2: All right, I really want to ask you about this
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Speaker 2: report in The Australian Today that said renters could face
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Speaker 2: increases of at least ten percent, with property investors tip
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Speaker 2: to exit the market because of Labour's negative gearing and
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Speaker 2: capital gains tax changes. So do you agree that this
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Speaker 2: is what will happen? Rents will be pushed up.
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Speaker 7: It's basically economics, Shari the government and maybe what Treasury
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Speaker 7: doesn't understand is that the legal incidence of attax is
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Speaker 7: different to the economic incidents. So you might apply a
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Speaker 7: tax increase to investors, but if they're able to, they
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Speaker 7: can pass that on to their clients, if you like renters.
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Speaker 7: Whenever negative gearing has been removed in Australia or overseas jurisdictions,
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Speaker 7: rents have shot up as a result. It happened in
26:27
Speaker 7: this country. We seem to have historical amnesia here. So
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Speaker 7: it's basic economics that if you can pass on the
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Speaker 7: tax increase that has hit you, you'll do so, and
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Speaker 7: renters will suffer. Their real incomes will be cut and
26:42
Speaker 7: housing will continue to become more expensive if we don't
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Speaker 7: cut immigration and improve supply.
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Speaker 2: All right, just less than a minute left. I want
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Speaker 2: to get your view on whether the budget helps or
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Speaker 2: hinders the RBA's fight against inflation.
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Speaker 4: It hinders it.
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Speaker 7: Nominal spending is going to increase in the coming fiscal
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Speaker 7: year by six percent to help the RBA, nominal spending
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Speaker 7: should have been a lot lower, possibly negative. Cabinet made
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Speaker 7: decisions to spend another eight billion dollars of money since
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Speaker 7: last December, so there's no short term restrictiveness in the
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Speaker 7: budget is absolutely going to make the RBA's job harder.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, not enough of an effort to tackle spending or doubt,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure, Right David Pearl, amazing to have you
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Speaker 2: on as always. Thank you so much and thanks everyone
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Speaker 2: for your company this week. I'll see you on Monday
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Speaker 2: at eight pm and sure it will be another big
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Speaker 2: news week. This week has been. Here's Paul Murray