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The Next Round: Lane Kiffin’s Florida Bombshell, NFL Week 2 & Clay Travis Joins The Next Round | Hour 2 · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: HardRock.bet backslash Clay. I did not like the Ryan Silverfield hire.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think he did a great job at Memphis.
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  Speaker 1: But my goodness, he's only been at Arkansas two games. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it was a dismal performance against Utah. But a couple
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  Speaker 1: of guys, one of them follows the show. It is
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  Speaker 1: Drunk Baz. Drunk Baz. He says, let's show our displeasure
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  Speaker 1: with Ryan Silverfield by– I don't know if he's the
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  Speaker 1: sack Saturday one. I think he's the stay-at-home one in
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  Speaker 1: this order. The stay-at-home one is the drunk Baz one,
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  Speaker 1: and he is encouraging fans to stay at home. Don't
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  Speaker 1: go to the game. How about we get.
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  Speaker 2: To November before we do this on a first-year coach?
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  Speaker 2: Is that true here? They haven't even played a conference game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have an expectation they're going to be able
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  Speaker 2: to upset Georgia at 11 o'clock this Saturday morning, but Like,
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  Speaker 2: you've got to support your players and at least support
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  Speaker 2: this guy in year one.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler, just throw any of them up, and we'll just
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  Speaker 1: walk through them here. Several fan bases. This one is
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  Speaker 1: from the top-tier hog there in Arkansas. SAC Saturday is
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  Speaker 1: encouraging fans to wear brown paper SAC versus Georgia coming
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  Speaker 1: up this weekend. There was a stay-at-home one. But the
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  Speaker 1: most damning one of all, at least for Brown and me,
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  Speaker 1: is the Creeks golf course. the creeks golf course at
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  Speaker 1: 10 a.m. Any tee time, Saturday, 10 a.m. It's an
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  Speaker 1: 11 a.m. game, $ 25 green fees. And that includes a
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  Speaker 1: cart for $ 25. You can go play at the creeks
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  Speaker 1: for $ 25.
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  Speaker 2: If you just don't go to the game and you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to watch it. Look, I think everybody, or
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  Speaker 2: we all agree. The fall wedding is the worst. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I've got a, take on one of those next week,
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  Speaker 2: give you more details on that as that thing plays out.
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  Speaker 2: But golf on a Saturday of the fall? You guys
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  Speaker 2: don't even do that, do you?
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, it's got to be a terrible early
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  Speaker 1: slate for me to go play golf. Y'all won't do
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  Speaker 1: Sunday either, will you, in the fall? Oh, I do Sundays. Sometimes,
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  Speaker 1: depending on who the Bucs are playing, I'll watch them
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  Speaker 1: on the phone. Any division game, I'll be on the
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  Speaker 1: golf course. Seriously? Yes, the division games. It depends on
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  Speaker 1: what time the Dolphins kick. If I can get it
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  Speaker 1: in before a Dolphins game, yeah, I'll play on a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday for sure. You'd sit at home and watch the
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  Speaker 1: Bucs and Panthers? Oh, yeah. Bucs and Panthers. I do anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a Bucs or a Panthers fan. Anyway, that's
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  Speaker 1: Arkansas's fan base there. I mean, it's unfortunate. It sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a toxic fan base. And I think sometimes you've
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  Speaker 1: got to remember. Well, fans are not realistic enough to
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  Speaker 1: remember this, but. I mean, you may have to replace
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  Speaker 1: this guy one day, and don't you think future candidates
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  Speaker 1: look back on stuff like this and like, my God,
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  Speaker 1: after two games of Ryan Silverfield. I mean, think about
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  Speaker 1: if you're affecting recruiting, too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, those players are going in and playing
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  Speaker 2: in front of their home fans in their SEC opener,
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  Speaker 2: and you're one and one on the season, and they've
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  Speaker 2: got bags on their heads already? Yeah. I understand the
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  Speaker 2: Saints when you lost 13-14 straight. Yeah, that was old school.
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  Speaker 2: And you're paying those players. And I know you're paying
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  Speaker 2: players now, but it's a different, it's a bad look.
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  Speaker 4: It is.
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  Speaker 1: But their chances against Georgia this week are?
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  Speaker 5: Very low.
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  Speaker 1: Would you go to the game?
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: If I was an Arkansas fan, I would. On the
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  Speaker 1: early window?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've probably got... I'm a glutton for punishment.
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  Speaker 2: I'll never forget Bernie Kosar set a completion record against
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  Speaker 2: my Rams, and I was watching on a 13-inch dusty
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  Speaker 2: TV and old PTs in a back room because nobody
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  Speaker 2: wanted to watch a game, and I stayed the entire game.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if that's your team, it sucks. If it's
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  Speaker 1: your team, it's your team. John Talti has a new
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  Speaker 1: book out, Lane Being Lane, and in that book is
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  Speaker 1: this story this is at CBS Sports Today, a little
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  Speaker 1: preview of what is in Lane being Lane leading into
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  Speaker 1: the big game. In Talty's book, right after a win
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  Speaker 1: of Ole Miss last year over top 15 Oklahoma, apparently
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin already had his eyes on another job. In
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  Speaker 1: the book, Talty writes, quote, instead of basking in perhaps
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  Speaker 1: his most important win as Ole Miss' head coach, Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: turned to defensive coordinator Pete Golding on the field and
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  Speaker 1: asked him, quote, are you ready to go to Gainesville,
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  Speaker 1: end quote. It's told to Talti in the book that
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  Speaker 1: right on the field after beating Oklahoma, Kiffin turned to
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  Speaker 1: Pete Golding on the field and asked him, are you
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  Speaker 1: ready to go to Gainesville, end quote. Could you see
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  Speaker 1: Kiffin doing that? I mean, nothing surprises me with Kiffin.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: No, I guess. I guess. I mean, most coaches you wouldn't,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm with Lance. Nothing surprises me with Kiffin.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the ridiculous halftime comment with Holly Rowe for
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  Speaker 2: the Clemson game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the NFL guys. Just imagine if we had pro players.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's Lane. Get your popcorn ready. The book
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  Speaker 1: is very well named, Lane being Lane, because it's what
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  Speaker 1: everybody always says about Lane.
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  Speaker 4: Have you guys seen the new ESPN report this morning
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  Speaker 4: from Mark Schlebaugh that Lane was using chat GPT as
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  Speaker 4: legal advice leading up to the lawsuits with the SEC?
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  Speaker 1: I have heard some lawyers say that that is a–
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  Speaker 1: it's actually pretty good. It's not perfect, but it's actually–
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  Speaker 1: I can understand. Ends up doing a pretty good job
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  Speaker 1: sometimes for some simple things.
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  Speaker 4: His attorney friend, Tom Mars, who he was seeking legal
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  Speaker 4: counsel from, he would text him screenshots of stuff from ChatGPT,
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  Speaker 4: and Tom Mars would send back, yeah, I don't really
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  Speaker 4: agree with that, though, and Lane was– kept sending screenshots
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  Speaker 4: of ChatGPT.
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  Speaker 1: Ole Miss has got a law school there. That's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: LSU has got a law school.
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  Speaker 2: Lane can afford $ 450 billing an hour. I understand a
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  Speaker 2: normal person that is listening to our show using that
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  Speaker 2: for a little bit of legal advice, but he's got
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  Speaker 2: a team of attorneys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Bruce Feldman at The Athletic writes a story
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  Speaker 1: this week. It's a big talk of college football. What
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  Speaker 1: makes Lane Kiffin a good coach? We asked those who
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  Speaker 1: have worked with him. A guy who's only described as
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  Speaker 1: an assistant with him at Florida Atlantic.
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  Speaker 5: All right?
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  Speaker 1: Okay. This is what he says. Quote, he probably has
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  Speaker 1: a golden horseshoe shoved up his ass somewhere. One of
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  Speaker 1: Kiffin's assistants from his days at FAU head, as the
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  Speaker 1: FAU head coach replied with a chuckle before adding, you probably, though,
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  Speaker 1: seriously need to split his career into two sections. pre-Alabama
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  Speaker 1: and post-Alabama. I would agree with that. I would agree
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  Speaker 1: with that, yeah. And that everyone is raving about what
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  Speaker 1: he became when he was in Tuscaloosa, when Lane Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: hired him. And this is really insightful from Alex Mortensen,
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  Speaker 1: the UAB coach. What makes Lane interesting, it's his willingness
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  Speaker 1: to go to the next thing and try the next thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then he goes on to say, Mortensen, when Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: was at Alabama... Coach Saban, that first year, really pushed
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  Speaker 1: the idea that we need to change a little. We
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  Speaker 1: need to play a little faster, play a little more
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  Speaker 1: spread out. Let's investigate RPOs. That was Nick Saban getting
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  Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin to change that offense. And when Mortensen tells it,
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  Speaker 1: it makes it sound like it was Saban, not Kiffin
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  Speaker 1: pushing Saban to change his offense from those years. It
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  Speaker 1: was Saban pushing Kiffin, this is the direction I want
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  Speaker 1: to go, and we need to be faster. We need
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  Speaker 1: to do more RPOs. And that's coming from Mortensen, who
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  Speaker 1: is inside the building. Coach Saban pushed a lot of that.
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  Speaker 1: But I think Lane, once he took to it, he
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  Speaker 1: took to it and ran. And that once he got
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  Speaker 1: to other places, Lane was able to see the big picture.
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  Speaker 1: And when he got to FAU as a head coach,
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  Speaker 1: brought in Kendall Bryles, and that is now the offense
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  Speaker 1: that Lane runs and is settled with. But it's never
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  Speaker 1: the same thing, but that Lane really wasn't the wide-open
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  Speaker 1: guy that he's perceived to be. It was Saban that
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  Speaker 1: pushed him to explore all that, and that Lane is
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  Speaker 1: just such an out-of-the-box thinker. He was able to take
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  Speaker 1: what Nick wanted and turn it into the offense you
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  Speaker 1: saw at Alabama.
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  Speaker 2: I do agree that pre- and post-Alabama is a good
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  Speaker 2: way to kind of divide.
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  Speaker 1: Where he is as a coach right now.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember when he was a head coach at USC,
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  Speaker 2: and again, the deck was stacked against him because he
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  Speaker 2: didn't have the scholarship numbers. But I really enjoyed watching
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  Speaker 2: him call a game as a head coach. He was
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  Speaker 2: one of the best play callers back then. Now, maybe
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  Speaker 2: things have gotten a little more refined, and as the
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  Speaker 2: evolution of the game goes, and we all remember when
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  Speaker 2: Saban got beat by Malzahn, Saban's going to have to
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  Speaker 2: do something. He's going to have to evolve, or he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get left behind, and he obviously evolved, and
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  Speaker 2: I guess that was part of it. But I do
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  Speaker 2: think Lane is a much better coach now. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is all of the immaturity that still comes with it.
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  Speaker 1: But it makes sense if you think back, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: That's got a name behind it. This is not sources.
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  Speaker 1: This is Alex Mortensen saying this right in the book.
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  Speaker 1: But it makes sense if you think back on the timeline,
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  Speaker 1: because if you think back on the timeline, Gus Malzahn,
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  Speaker 1: as Lance said, comes to the SEC as head coach
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  Speaker 1: at Auburn, back to the SEC. They're running a lot
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  Speaker 1: of RPO stuff. And famously, the play that scored the
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  Speaker 1: touchdown that ultimately led to the kick six, right, for Auburn.
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  Speaker 1: And that was a play that Alabama's coaches lost their
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  Speaker 1: mind over. And that was what led Nick Saban to say,
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  Speaker 1: is this what we want college football to become? And
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  Speaker 1: the rest of college football looked back at Nick Saban
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  Speaker 1: and said, yeah, we do. So Nick Saban was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'll play. I mean, I don't know that
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  Speaker 1: Nick Saban really wanted to go that route. But when
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  Speaker 1: the rest of college football and the people to make
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  Speaker 1: the rules said, yes, this is what we want college
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  Speaker 1: football to be. Nick Saban, one of his greatest abilities
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  Speaker 1: was adaptability. Like the fact that he was able over
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  Speaker 1: the years to say, if this is changing, I'll change
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  Speaker 1: with it and I'll try to perfect it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it makes sense if you think back where this occurred
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  Speaker 1: in the timeline. Good read, Bruce Feldman, on all the
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  Speaker 1: years of Lane Kiffin leading into that big game this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: 8-15 Eastern. We have paddles here that are hot or cold,
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  Speaker 1: hot or cold. And now the numbers I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: give you with these NFL offenses from the first week,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're going to, This is going to
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  Speaker 1: be the average points that they're going to keep scoring.
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  Speaker 1: You just tell me if you think that's a fair look,
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  Speaker 1: if that offense stays hot all season long or cools
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  Speaker 1: off all season long because it was a historic weekend.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll start with Baltimore, who scored 41 in their
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  Speaker 1: game this weekend. Do you think that Baltimore offense stays
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  Speaker 1: hot all year? or cools off as the year goes on?
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to give it the hot. I think as
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  Speaker 1: long as you've got Lamar Jackson there, that offense will
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  Speaker 1: score some points and rack up some yards. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to say they stay hot.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say they cool off a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I still think they're going to win the division. I
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  Speaker 2: had them win in the division before, but Derrick Henry
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  Speaker 2: is 34 years old. I don't think he can keep
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  Speaker 2: that up for 17 games.
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  Speaker 1: I hate doubting Derrick Henry.
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  Speaker 2: Also, Jacoby Lane, a rookie that was turning heads in camp,
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  Speaker 2: Out of USC, he's already on IR. They just put
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  Speaker 2: him on IR yesterday, so he's at least four games
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  Speaker 2: he's going to miss. Do you really trust Zay Flowers
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  Speaker 2: to be kind of– you lose Isaiah Likely, who was
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  Speaker 2: a massive factor in that Dallas-New York Jags game. I
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  Speaker 2: was really surprised they let him go. Yeah, because Mark
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  Speaker 2: Andrews is still out there. How old is Mark Andrews?
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  Speaker 5: A million.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, you've got a new play caller.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it cools off, but I
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  Speaker 2: still think they're a really good team.
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  Speaker 1: OK, San Francisco, the 49ers, they only scored 27. And
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  Speaker 1: by last week's standards, that's not a lot. But I
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  Speaker 1: thought that offense looked really, really good. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: the 49ers offense stays hot all year long or it
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  Speaker 1: cools off? Is Christian McCaffrey healthy? If he's healthy, I'll
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  Speaker 1: say it stays hot all year.
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  Speaker 3: OK.
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  Speaker 2: Kalen Black, though, is your backup running back who looks
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  Speaker 2: like he's going to get maybe not as much touches
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  Speaker 2: as Christian McCaffrey.
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  Speaker 1: Rookie from Indiana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, rookie from Indiana. I think he is going to
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  Speaker 2: be really, really good this year. But watching that offense,
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  Speaker 2: and I think this is how they're going to do it.
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  Speaker 2: They really don't have a guy that's going to take
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  Speaker 2: the top off the defense. So I think an older
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  Speaker 2: Debo Samuel, Mike Evans, it's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of dink and dunk.
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  Speaker 1: I was a little. With Brock Purdy.
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  Speaker 2: So I think running the football, dink and dunk, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to be very efficient. They're going to be
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  Speaker 2: very good.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to win.
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  Speaker 2: 12 maybe 13 games but i think the offense is
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  Speaker 2: just gonna it's not gonna.
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  Speaker 1: Wow you i like my nfl better than lance's so
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  Speaker 1: far you and lance i'm hot across the board i
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  Speaker 1: just score points boys with mike evans injury past um
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  Speaker 1: matt mccaffrey's i just think at some point that'll be
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  Speaker 1: in brock purdy's injury yeah it'll be an injury riddled
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  Speaker 1: team but i will say this as a guy who
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  Speaker 1: loves mike evans and watch him all the years with
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  Speaker 1: the bugs we didn't use him we rarely used him
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  Speaker 1: in the slot as much as they used him last
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  Speaker 1: week for san francisco That was a tremendous advantage, having
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  Speaker 1: Mike Evans' size, his ability to just find space in
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  Speaker 1: the slot. We always seemed like to have him outside
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  Speaker 1: the numbers. I would have loved Mike Evans, healthy Mike
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  Speaker 1: Evans in the slot. Man, that looked so good.
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  Speaker 2: And now I'm not going to doubt Trent Williams, one
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  Speaker 2: of the best offensive tackles of all time, but.
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  Speaker 1: He's in year 17.
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  Speaker 2: He's 38 years old. And when you watch last Thursday night,
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  Speaker 2: the way he kind of dominated Myles Garrett, I think
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  Speaker 2: a lot of that was Myles Garrett's knee. Can a
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  Speaker 2: 38-year-old Trent Williams, who's missed a lot of time over
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of years, can he continue? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the injuries are a problem for San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: Now, listen, 39 is a big number. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: you have to keep this number as an average. But
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota scored 39. Do you expect that to stay hot
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  Speaker 1: or cool off? Well, part of it, too, is I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's– I mean, it's only a concussion. But
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  Speaker 1: we've seen in the NFL with Kyler Murray, not specifically him,
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  Speaker 1: but he's the one with the concussion, how that can
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  Speaker 1: plague you forever. For the whole season, really. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: specifically with Tua, and you hope that's not the case
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  Speaker 1: with Kelly Murray.
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  Speaker 2: You guys know I'm a Kevin O'Connell fan. I thought
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  Speaker 2: what was really interesting, because I was watching that game.
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay completely melted down in the fourth quarter. I
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: think there were some bad calls there. But what was
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: really interesting is Kevin O'Connell didn't go to J.J. McCarthy,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: your starting quarterback last year.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I did think that was odd.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: It goes to Carson Wentz, which tells you a lot
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: about where J.J.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: McCarthy is.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: He was the emergency quarterback number three on Sunday.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: So that puts J.J. McCarthy basically at the same level
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: with the Vikings organization as as Ty Simpson is with
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: the Rams. He was the emergency guard.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: Or even better, Jack Strand is with the Falcons. Forrester's Falcons.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Look, and I think he's one of the best play
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: callers out there, but I'm going to say that it cools.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Down, definitely. And we're wasting Jordan Jefferson's career. Justin Jefferson's career.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard me say this the
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: other day, when he scored that touchdown, it was his
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: first home touchdown since 2024.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: And that was just a.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Throw it up in the air. It was just a.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: One-on-one back in the end zone and let him go
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: up and get it.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Buffalo plays tonight against the Lions, who gave up a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: lot of points late as well. But 36 last week. Again,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: we're not saying they're going to average 36 points. Do
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you think Buffalo's offense stays hot the rest of the year?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I will say hot because a couple things, Lance. They've
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: got one of the best quarterbacks, top two or three
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, who's almost always good every week,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: number one. And number two, I just wonder with that
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: defense if they're going to have to stay hot. That's
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: my questions about their defense.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. They give up the 31 to
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the Texans last week, and I don't think there was
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a big expectation for the Texans offensively. I think Joe
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Brady is going to have to shoot this out with
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: a lot of teams and rely on Josh Allen. I
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: really wanted to play this over tonight. It is a
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: massive total, but the problem is every game went over
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: last week.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: What's the total? Let me check it. So you're saying
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: every game went over last week, so it's going to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: be a big under week? They're statistically norms for a reason.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they make the adjustments. I mean, this total is 54.5.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: That is just a massive total in the NFL.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: So 34? 28-27 puts it over. 28-27, okay.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: And it seems hard to keep both of these teams
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: under that number.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: All right, if I go to hard right bat, I've
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: got 16 NFL games this weekend. If I play the
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: under on all of them, I think you come out
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: as a winner. You think you come out ahead? You should,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: but if you would have done that last week, you're broke. No,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: but what if I play the overs on all of
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: them last week? Oh, you would be in a great spot.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: You're saying the extreme adjustment this week. That's right. I mean,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of like Lance. It seems like in the
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: NFL when you have a big over week, everything's low
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: scoring the next week. To your point that you're thinking
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the casino, the bookmakers are going to take advantage of
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: the public feeling and everybody's like, man, record points last week, man.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Look at the scoring we're going to have this week. Well,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: this is the only game in the 50s.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got the Commanders and the Cowboys.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: That totals 50 and a half. But, I mean, this
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: is a big total. Everything else is in the 40s? Yeah.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I am going to go play all over. I don't
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: think anything has happened. I think it's what you were
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: talking about that the coaches are saying now. Oddly, the
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: lack of preseason games hurts our defense more than our offense.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: We're not doing any contact. We're basically seven on seven.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: It wasn't me that said that. It was Mike Tomlin.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I know, but you brought it up. Mike Tomlin was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the one that said it. Who's to argue with Mike Tomlin?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: That guy did it a long time at a high level.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Two more. Chicago. They scored 59 last week. I'm going
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to say it stays hot. Ben Johnson. It's not going
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: to be 59, but it's going to be hot.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: You've got a really, really good quarterback in Caleb Williams.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: You've got multiple running backs. Again, I've said this a
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: million times, but Colston Loveland, your leading receiver last year
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: at tight end, didn't have a reception, and you went
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: You've got a coach that's publicly saying he wants to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: score 1,000 points. This is a coach that's going to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: keep his foot on the gas. Last one. Kansas City
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: scored 31. You think they stay... hot or cold not
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: averaging 31 points a game but just by I'm gonna
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: go cold NFL standards I'm gonna go cold.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah I'm gonna say cooling down I know Mahomes is
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: not the quarterback he once was he's still really good
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: you saw the big play from Travis Kelsey I don't
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: think he can keep that up for 17 games defenses
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: are going to focus on Kenneth Walker. Rasheed Rice is
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a nice receiver, but I still don't think they've got
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: a ton of weapons, so I would go cold.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: I'd go cold mainly because I don't think Walker will
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: be able to do this. Looking at his history, listen
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: to Brock Huard on our show, go check our podcast,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: our archives. He told me all the injuries that he
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: had at Seattle. I know Kenneth Walker from the Super
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Bowl and Week 1.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And, hey, those two games, he's pretty good. Well, you
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: know who else knows him? Yeah. Mel Tucker. Yeah, he
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: got Mel Tucker paid. Boy, that guy disappeared. You don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: even hear that name. I don't blame him. Yeah. So
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that's a little hot and cold with the NFL. Again, tonight,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: 8-15 Eastern, 7-15 Prime with OneRepublic as the halftime show.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: You get the Lions and Bills from their new stadium.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder how many Bills fans come across the border tonight.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Can you do a quick AI search of how many
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: season ticket holders?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I would think 10% are from Toronto.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Buffalo season ticket holder, Bill season ticket holders from the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: state of Canada. I have never been. Sorry. President Trump.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: That was a discussion at one point.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I've never been to Toronto, but I heard it's a
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: very Americanized city.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Toronto's a great city. They love football.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: So I would think that 10%. A lot of money
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: in Toronto.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Wow, very good, Lance. The Buffalo Bills have approximately 8,000
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Canadian season ticket holders, which makes up about 10% to 15%
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of their total season ticket base. Actually, 10%, if it's 8,000,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: that's too high. Their stadium only holds 6,000, 60,000. New
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: stadium opens up tonight, but I wonder how many comes
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: across the border to watch Bills games. And they'll get
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: to do it on a Thursday night tonight with the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Lions and Bills. Clay Travis in our next segment. Before
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: we jump to that next segment, the Ravens. Can we
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: get the Ravens uniforms, Tyler? The Baltimore Ravens will unveil
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: their white noise uniforms this weekend, and it'll be their
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: first time to wear their purple rising helmet. They have
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: cool names. White noise uniform, purple rising helmets. Where does
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Baltimore play this weekend? Look that up for me, somebody.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Baltimore this weekend has the Saints at home.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Home game. So they're going to wear white at home.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: With their white noise. I like that uniform. As far
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: as the Ravens go, that's about as good a uniform
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: as you can do. Have you seen the Rams uniform
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: this week? I have not. I don't have that one. Well,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it's the classic soul.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: This was kind of a throwback jersey they used back
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: in the day, but it's the yellow jersey with a
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: white pant.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Looks good, I think. Yellow jerseys for the Rams?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I remember 1994, we went into Arrowhead Stadium with T.J.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Rubley at quarterback. With the yellow jersey.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Wearing the yellow jersey as a two-touchdown dog won the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: game outright.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: What a great moment in Rams history. I like the
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Rams when they're in their traditional helmets with their blue jerseys,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: yellow bands. I don't like the black, the midnight, that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they'll do one game.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: But the alternative yellow and white this year, I like
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: When we come back, Clay Travis joins the show to
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: talk about all the stuff happening in this big weekend
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  Speaker 1: the Board of Regents at Oklahoma approved the new Brent
• 23:25
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• 23:29
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• 23:35
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• 23:38
  Speaker 1: But this is new this morning. Northwestern, right ahead of
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: opening up their new stadium coming up this season, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Coach David Braun have agreed to a new contract extended
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: through 2031, and he took over as the interim coach
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: in 2023. God, it's been that long since then. It's crazy,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: isn't it? Skip Holtz was with him there. You remember
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that for that year? He is 2019 contract. in his
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: fourth year as a head coach, according to Pete Thamel.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's done a really good job.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: You know, he wins eight games in that first year,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: and then it dives back to four and eight. I mean,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: you're going to get those ebbs and flows if you're
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: coaching at Northwestern, but last year he was seven at six.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: He's one and oh. Their favorite against Colorado, who's two
• 24:18
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• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That's kind of a fun little game that would have
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: gotten more noise if it was like week one.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or week zero. Would have been a fun game.
• 24:25
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  Speaker 1: That is xx-xyathletics.com. One of those off-the-radar games, as it
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be, but it's North Carolina and Clemson this weekend.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And the folks around North Carolina telling reporters... anonymously, it
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: has been an internal civil war going on about the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Belichick's and North Carolina program. Steve Belichick turned in his
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: resignation today. Is that correct, Brownie? That is correct, Steve.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: On three, I think the first report at Pete Thamel
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: has verified that, that Steve Belichick, the defensive coordinator who
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: has been on leave, he has not coached during this
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: regular season, has been on leave for medical reasons since August,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: turned in his resignation today. Boy, this just feels like, Lance,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the drip, drip, drip, drip of the final season for
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: It does, but I mean, if you look on field,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: I think they are going to beat Clemson this week.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, Tate Reynolds getting that first start, he seems
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: like he's going to be really one-dimensional.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And that is a healthy change at quarterback. Vazina is
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: listed as cleared on the injury report, so this is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a Tate Reynolds has won the job over Vazina at Clemson.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Through two games, Clemson has given up more tackles for
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: loss than any team in college football. You look at
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: North Carolina on the other side, they've only allowed 13
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: points through two games, and they've produced seven sacks. So
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: they're going to live in that backfield. And North Carolina,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the defense got better and better last year. It wasn't
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: an overall good team.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: How does this game go over? I don't think it does.
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: It was right on the number last year.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: They got blown out 38-10 in Chapel Hill, but I
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: think this is an ugly 14-10 North Carolina win.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine either, because Clemson's defense is pretty good.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I know they didn't look it against LSU, but it's
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: actually a pretty good defense. North Carolina's offense isn't great.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: This could be one of those classic 10-7s.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I think after this result, if North Carolina does spring
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: the semi-upset, I think this is where publicly you'll start
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: to see Dabo's package, what it looks like to get
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: rid of Dabo Smith.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: More likely to coach next year at their school. Dabo, Belichick,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: or neither? Neither would be my more likely. I would
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: go Dabo still. Belichick, there's no chance. No chance. By
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the way, after a bye, after a bye week, Notre
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Dame up next. Notre Dame would be who Bill Belichick
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: will have to face after that bye week.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Hey, do we have to start with sports with our
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: next guest?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: With Clay Travis?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Presumably no. I assume we could start anywhere we wanted
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: with Clay Travis.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to ask this because I wasn't here
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: last week.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I was at a funeral when Clay was on with us. Okay.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And that was when the whole AI thing came out.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Did you guys talk to Clay about AI?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: The AI, what, ending the world? Yeah. Oh, no, we
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: did not talk to Clay about that.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I'm sure this has been something that him and Buck
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: have talked about before.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Talked to my pastor about it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: You did?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: That's your wife, right?
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: But I did, I mean, Mark Zuckerberg is now commenting
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: on this. I mean, where are you on AI? Are
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: we going to, I mean, something's going to wipe us out.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, civilization one day will go away. I don't
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: know if it's going to be tomorrow or in a
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: thousand years. But do you think AI is ultimately responsible
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: for the decline of civilization one day?
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: I tend to be an optimist.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: And I've heard that climate change was going to destroy
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: civilization forever. And now, you know, people kind of stop
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: talking about climate change. I'm old enough to remember when
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: people said overpopulation was going to destroy civilization. And actually,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: if you look at the data, we're going in the
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: opposite direction. In other words, people are not having enough kids.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: So population over the next hundred years, we may have
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: already peaked at human population and we may be beginning
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: a substantial decline. I'm certainly old enough to remember when
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: COVID was going to potentially destroy the world. At some
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: point in time, the world will be destroyed, like we
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: saw with the dinosaurs. That feels like it is possible.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I will say my son, my oldest, who is a super,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: super smart kid, he's obsessed with AI, and he tells
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: me that I am underrating the potential dangers of AI,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: and he's been encouraged. me to talk about it on
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: my shows more and that we need more understanding that
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: once we get to sort of AI generation, which again,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: basically means that AI would be able to run itself,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: that we're going to see levels of increase in in
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: technology that we can't even comprehend. In other words, generative AI,
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: where we get past human intelligence and it begins to
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: be able to replicate. But my general position on this,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: and I've spent a lot of time on it, I've
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: spent a lot of time thinking about it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: To me, it comes down to energy. AI is very expensive.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: The data centers debate has been a big talking point
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: of late. The amount of money that has to be
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: spent to build these data centers, so that everybody can
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: be sitting around on TikTok all day or sitting around
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: on Instagram or whatever, your phone scrolling through, looking at
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: all these short videos. I think we are in a
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: world where it would be hard for AI to take
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: over because energy has a cost. And I don't know
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: what AI would be doing to be profitable to pay
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: for the cost of energy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: And so that's where I look at it.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Now, maybe AI is going to find a source of
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: energy that we're not smart enough to have found already,
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: and energy costs are going to go to zero. So
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: I tend to be optimistic in general, so I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: think it's going to end the world, but I certainly
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: understand why people are apprehensive, why people are nervous, why
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: people are fearful with substantial change and how rapid that
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: change can take place.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys use AI now. I do.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it makes me better.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: I'm not letting it write emails or using it as
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: a servant in my life, but I do use it
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: to research.
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: I use it for college football.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: If you just go into Grok and you say, hey,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: tell me the last 20 results of a yearly rivalry
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: game and how that is compared with the overall spread,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: you can get some pretty good data and research that
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: would have otherwise taken a long time to look up.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: And you get it in 10 seconds. I use it
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: a lot. I think it makes me better, more effective.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: I primarily use it as a better version, more efficient
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: version of Google for what I do. But I know
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: for a lot of people who are more sophisticated than me,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: they have found that it can make them profoundly more
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: efficient and effective at their job than they otherwise would be.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Now, see, I think in Lance's world, the AI robots...
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: are holding us prisoners and killing us. That's the way
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it ends for you. For me, it's that the AI
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: computer gets access to the Internet, like this guy said
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: has actually happened a couple of times, and then it
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: starts firing off nuclear weapons from Eastern Europe at the U.S.,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and we're firing back, and that's how the world ends.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: That's what scares me.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: That's sort of like the Terminator 2 scenario. Let me
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: give you an example of something that does trouble me.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: We're not far away with drone technology from them being
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: able to say, anyone in many different parts of the world,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: here is a picture of Jim Dunaway, Ryan Brown, Lance Taylor,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Clay Travis.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: If you see this person, kill them.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: And the drone is just flying around looking for you constantly. And,
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: you know, we have this idea of danger is going
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: to come typically from an individual, right? If you're in
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: an American city or American street, somebody could try to
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: do violence.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a great movie, by the way.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: But what scares me is we are going to have,
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: I think, more and more of these drone armies. And
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I think we could end up in a world where
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: the primary threat to individual safety is from drones, not
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: from individuals.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: So that does scare me a little bit.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Positive.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: Tesla self-drive.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: If you use Tesla self-drive, I think it's hard to
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: be negative about the future of AI because it is
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the most transformative technology I've ever used in my life.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm obsessed with it. I think it's going to
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: save a ton of lives. 40,000 people a year die
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: in traffic accidents. I think Tesla self-drive, just try it.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: If you're a senior citizen, your mom or your dad,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: your grandma, your grandpa, they're having trouble getting out I
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: think it's going to help so many elderly people who
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: don't feel comfortable driving, but they want to go to
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: a sporting event for their kid or they want to
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: go to a, you know, heck, just to the shopping
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: mall or to the grocery store on their own. I
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: think it's going to prolong independence for a lot of
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: elderly people. It's going to make a lot of teenage
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: boys in particular safer. That's why I have it for
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: my teenage boys. Teenage boys are morons. Um, so, uh, I,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: I think as with most things, it comes down to
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: how you're going to use it, um, more so than
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: it does the overall technology being good or bad. Okay.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Help me out. Um, you know, I don't like to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: talk politics, but I'm going to ask you this question. Uh, anyway, um,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I grew up watching college football in the seventies where
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: they would have a very attractive, uh, wife or girlfriend
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and just her husband or boyfriend's white shirt, no pants, uh,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: nothing else on, and she would put shaving cream on
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: his face and he would shave and it was a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: razor commercial or it was a shaving cream commercial. I mean,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: girls have been used in ads since the beginning of time.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I don't understand the controversy over The Sidney Sweeney, I'm
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: naked with balls placed in a row. What's the controversy here?
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: That's been the core in advertisement. Since day one, basically.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Since the beginning of time. I would imagine moving from
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: one cave to the other involved a naked girl showing
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: me a better cave back in the day.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Well, look, a few years ago, we decided that the
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: reason why men liked the women that we do is
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: because of toxic masculinity and and because of the way
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: that the media puts women in front of us. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: they decided, hey, we're going to put super fat chicks
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: in sports bras, or we're going to put dudes pretending
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: to be chicks in sports bras, and we're going to
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: sell this. And Victoria's Secret said, hey, instead of gorgeous supermodels,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: we're going to put androgynous chicks in our underwear, and
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: that's going to help us sell. And something happened, which
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: was people don't want to look uglier than they actually
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: are in clothes that they are buying. They're aspiring to
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: look better. If I had a male underwear company and
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I made myself the main male underwear advertiser, boys, we
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: would not sell a lot of male underwear.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: It's not just women.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: You walk through a shopping, you walk through a mall,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: you walk through a convenience store, the people that they
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: put on the underwear that they sell them in are
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: ripped and really good looking. People want to believe that
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: they are going to look better in the clothes that
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: they buy. These are aspirational purchases. Men respond to good-looking
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: women in all facets of life. None of us would
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: exist if a man had not responded to a good-looking
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: woman at some point in the past and they hadn't
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: ended up together. This is not going to change. And
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I think, really, to me, it's just ludicrous. What I
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: would say about Sidney Sweeney is this. I love her entrepreneurialism,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that she has her own lingerie company.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I love the fact that she is an equity holder
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: in this sports gambling company. She is trying to build
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: a portfolio of assets, ironically enough, built on her assets.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And that, to me, is what we should be encouraging
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: in the country. There's no telling how many hundreds of
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: people are employed based on her ability to get attention.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: And I don't know her, but I find her to
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: be brilliant in the way that she has made her
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: choices in her career. She is taking advantage of what
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: the marketplace allows her to do. And that is what
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: capitalism is. So I give her credit. I agree with you, Dunaway.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I don't see why this has been remotely controversial. Although
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I would suggest we have this idea that controversy is bad.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: In my experience, every time I've done something controversial, It's
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: been wildly beneficial to my career. Criticism is actually oftentimes
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: the best advertisement you can get.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: And so I would.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: Imagine that to some extent they were hoping for blowback
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: like this and that this has helped her to even
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: have a more successful advertising campaign that she otherwise would
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: have if people had just stayed quiet.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: But see, I get pissed off that I get painted
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: into a corner that I I can like, and this
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: seems to be the debate at the center of it,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: is that for some reason, if I think Sydney Sweeney
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: is sexy, that I don't think that an athletic woman
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is sexy. But I think there are a lot of
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: good looking soccer players and tennis players, too. I can
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: like a lot of different kinds of women. I don't
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: have to. I don't have to choose vanilla all the time.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I can go Rocky Road. I can go swirls. Yeah,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Basically what you're saying, Dunaway, is I'm super horny and
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I don't discriminate very much.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Or I'm an American man. But what's amazing, he doesn't
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: like Sidney Sweeney. I don't think she's all that. I
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: don't think she's all that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: I can understand how you could dislike Sidney Sweeney if
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: you're not into boobs and you're not into perfect bodies.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: I am into boobs. I just don't think hers ranks
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: in the top 25. Okay. I agree with everything. you said, Clay,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: but let me do a quick, let me do a
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: quick counterpoint to what you just said. With any certainty,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: tell me who she's advertising for. Oh, I know what
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: I can, but I'm not going to say it because
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: they're a competitor with Hard Rock.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: That's right.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: But you know it?
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And you know it for sure. For sure, yeah. Do
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you know it for sure? I can see the logo,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: but no. Okay.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, 100%.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: See, I did not know that was a competitor with
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock, so I had no idea what they were
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: even advertising. But they're new to the game.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know because I told our guys,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: I was like, hey, this is a big story. We
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: can use our pictures with the, you know, accurately paced.
• 40:09
  Speaker 5: Footballs, but let's avoid the logo of a competitor. um
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: in the way that we talk by.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: The way the hottest picture she's ever taken is her
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: sitting on the basketball rim that was something that is
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the best picture that was something yeah that is the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: best picture she's ever taken all right clay's going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: get ready for clay and buck you will see it
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: when we are finished here on sport and state and
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: also the uh.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: By the way did you guys have a discussion on
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: this yet um Do you believe any chance at all
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: that Sam Levitt doesn't play?
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: No. Give us your take real quick. 100% he plays.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I'm with you guys. I presume you guys had the
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: same take as me. I mean, I would be stunned
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: if he doesn't play. I don't know if you guys
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: have made picks yet. I like LSU in that game,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: and I like the over. I think Lane Kiffin is
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: going to be able to dissect this LSU defense. They
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: couldn't play in the secondary at all. against Louisville if
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: you watch that game. I think LSU will go up
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: and down the field basically at their choice, at their pace.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: I like LSU to cover this number, and I also
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: like the over.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I'm LSU in the under.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: By the way, here's a fun question for you guys
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: as we leave. Do you know CBS would have had
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: this game probably in the 3.30 Eastern window? Do you
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: know what game CBS has without looking today.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: To go up?
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Rutgers and USC.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: They have got USC-Rutgers.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I just think we don't talk enough about CBS giving
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: up the SEC as the all-time dumbest decision ever made
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: in the history of sports media.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: What's crazy, Clay, is they barely would show Mississippi State
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: when they had the SEC package, and then they had
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: them at 2.30 last week in Minnesota.
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's very funny.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have never shown a game like that
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: when they had the SEC package.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, they're paying more for, like, the sixth-best
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Big Ten game, and they would have otherwise had LSU
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Ole Miss at 3.30 Eastern from Oxford on Saturday.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Terrible business.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Terrible.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Clay. Have a great week.
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I'll see you.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: All right. Thank you, Clay Travis with us. He's about
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to do Clay and Buck coming up just when we
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: wrap up on Sporting State. And we've got one more
• 42:14
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• 42:17
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• 42:22
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• 43:19
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• 43:22
  Speaker 1: join us at some point tonight or tomorrow. And, uh,
• 43:25
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• 43:28
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• 43:30
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• 43:32
  Speaker 1: 1230 Eastern, 1130 Central. That is coming up. Did you
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: guys know, and I don't know how you guys are
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: on stadiums and everything, but there was a time where,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: get the Commander Stadium ready to fly by, Tyler. There
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: was a time when we built Riverfront and Three Rivers,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that Bush Stadium, the old one, All the stadiums look
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: the same. They're multi-purpose, and they all look the same.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Is there a chance that after we built SoFi and
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: the one we built in Minneapolis, that all the new
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: stadiums are going to look the same? Here's the inside
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: look of the Commander's new stadium, and this is the outside,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: but it's got the clear glass dome. Yep. And I
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: don't know, do you have the video flying through the inside, Tyler?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I think Nashville's doing that too, right? Yeah, Nashville. That's
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: my point, Brownie. Nashville's doing it as well.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Once you've been to one of these, though, you understand
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: why they're doing it.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it keeps you out of the elements. It
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: keeps you out of the elements. It's just beautiful. It
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: feels like an outside game. It does, yeah.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's times where it feels like it's a dome,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: but more so outside.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Kansas City's is going
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: to be that way, too. I think in the renderings,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: theirs is going to be that way. Kansas City's looking
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: at one that way. I think Chicago's is also going
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: to be the same way. And Gary, Indiana. Yeah, and Gary, Indiana. So,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's all going towards that. Now, one thing
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: that that allows you to do— Because that's what you
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: want to see, right?
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: It's Gary, Indiana.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: That's right. But one thing that allows you to do
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: is also host— You know, the Final Four, if you
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: want to, in basketball or big concerts and not have
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to worry about the weather. Well, can you, though, with
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the sun shining in? In Minnesota, I was up there
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: at Final Four. Yeah, but that's a wall, though. Well,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I guess that is... No, they blacked out the roof.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: How'd they do that? They put black coverings on the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: whole thing.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Now, when I went to... That's a big bed sheet.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Went and saw the Eagles play the Vikings up there
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: a few years ago, and it was a noon kick,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: and they had the roof closed... But there was so
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: much lighting in there.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: It was an awesome.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Outside a sofa, that's my favorite stadium.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: It's designed to look like you're outside because of basically
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: a greenhouse look. Are we going away, though, from retractables?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Because nobody really uses them anymore, do they? Well, the Cowboys,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I think, had theirs open recently. Did they? Minnesota does.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Minnesota's not retractable. I didn't think it was retractable.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: No.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I think it's just translucent glass. Maybe, maybe, maybe so.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Like the Falcons, do they ever open that bird's nest
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: up there? They do, but not for the SEC championship.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: It just seems like the juice is not worth the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: squeeze to factor that in.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I thought it was so weird, that Super Bowl with
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: the Patriots and Rams.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Belichick was welled up about it. Well, it was open,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: and then they closed. For the flyover. And Belichick, if
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you go back and watch the NFL films, Belichick is
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: riding the head refs. You know what? Is it going
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: to be closed by the time we kick? I mean,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: he was super worried about it. Which is so weird.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: One of the Cowboys that had it open. I don't
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: know if they... Is Lincoln in Indianapolis, is it retractable? No.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: It's not? Yeah, it is, actually. Yeah, it is. Maybe
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: that's the one I was thinking of. You get some
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: crazy ones. It just dawned on me when I saw
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the Commander Stadium. I was like, We are moving to
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: where every one of these stadiums is going to have the,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I call it a greenhouse glass, but it's just basically
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: clear glass. Do you think, do you wonder, and I
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: wonder this about like super modern houses, like You know,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: the house that looks so dated now was super modern
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: 30 years ago. Do you think 30 years from now
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: we'll look at those stadiums like, God, I can't believe
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: they used to build these the way we do with
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: the cookie cutters? Like in baseball, they went back to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a traditional look in baseball stadiums. What Camden Yards did there.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Which is what they moved away from to go to
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: the cookie cutters. Yeah, but they all have gone to
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: a traditional, almost business warehouse district stadium look. And it
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: looks cool as crap. And you think that can hang
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: around forever and ever. But to your point, this clear
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: glass seems like it's Art Deco. At some point in
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: 20 years, we're going to be like, why do we
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: have clear glass? But the thing is, Jim, the stadiums
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: don't last 20 years anymore. You know what I'm saying?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Georgia Dome barely did it, barely make
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: it 20 years. Or was it 25, whatever it was?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: It opened in 94, and yeah, I mean, right at it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: To your point, Las Vegas approved the other day $ 175
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: million can be matched by the organization for upgrades. At
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Allegiant Field.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: That place is brand new.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: That thing's barely been opened.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's for some entrance off of either the north or
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: the south to get people in better from one part
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: of the strip or whatever. But I was like, God,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: it's a brand new stadium. We're already paying more money
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: to keep that stadium? We're building a baseball stadium right now.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? All right. That's it for us
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: on Sporting State. You guys have a great day. The
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: next round continues at Next Round Live.