Latest / None of Your Business Podcast / Naomi Streicher: From Humble Beginnings to Real Estate Mogul
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- 0:00We were brought up that you're not allowed to have a job.
- 0:02I wanted a job so badly. What does that mean?
- 0:04I wasn't allowed to have a job. As a female or as a young?
- 0:08Allowed to have a job. Explain that.
- 0:09My father wanted us to have a business.
- 0:11If you have a job, there's just you just have so much that you
- 0:14could make. If you have a business, there's
- 0:16more potential. None of your business or she.
- 0:23None of your business, Michael. It's the None of Your Business
- 0:26podcast hosted by Michael Anoshi.
- 0:28Welcome back everybody to another amazing episode of the
- 0:31None of your Business podcast hosted by Michael Greenfield and
- 0:35Ushi Schwartz and promoted and produced by the prime Source
- 0:39production team. Thank you, Steph and will for
- 0:41all the excellent work behind the scenes.
- 0:43We are here with a legend, someone who I've wanted to be in
- 0:47the seat looking at me like what?
- 0:48Me yes, Naomi striker, everybody from am I saying it right,
- 0:52Striker, right, not striker. Yes, it's the yeah.
- 0:55Never works. Naomi, welcome to the program.
- 1:00We're excited to have you and I've been wanting to have you on
- 1:03this podcast for a while simply because you and I have history
- 1:05that not really many people know about.
- 1:07You're looking at me like, what are you talking about?
- 1:09What you helped build our community.
- 1:11I mean, you've helped build many communities and we're going to
- 1:13get into that in a minute. But first, we have a segment
- 1:16called ChatGPT said what? Have you ever ChatGPT Ed
- 1:19yourself? I just did it.
- 1:22Like recently, Yeah. Because you knew this was
- 1:25coming. I I just did it on me.
- 1:26I did on someone else too. I gotta see what it says.
- 1:29OK, well, you'll tell us how much of it is accurate or how
- 1:31much of it is. I mean, the truth is, you know
- 1:34what? We'll see.
- 1:35So you are the founder of Realty Teams, Naomi.
- 1:38Not just the selling homes, she's matchmaking families with
- 1:41their futures. OK.
- 1:43Right. You like that?
- 1:44So far, so good. You were once a radio host.
- 1:48She didn't just talk real estate.
- 1:50She turned airwaves into an open house for your brain.
- 1:54Were you a radio host? Yes, WRCR, but it just got
- 1:57bought off by WABC so I don't know what they're planning to
- 2:02do, but it was RCR right here in Haverstraw.
- 2:04Oh very cool. OK 35 plus years in the game and
- 2:08still top tier. If experience were square
- 2:10footage, she'd need her own county.
- 2:13Wow, I like that. That's high praise.
- 2:15I think that's nice. Very nice.
- 2:16That is very nice. Do you know how many houses
- 2:18you've been involved in selling over the years?
- 2:20Just quickly, is there a number you could put on it?
- 2:24Like a couple of 1000. Maybe a couple of 1000, just a
- 2:27few thousand, no big deal. You're a licensed real estate
- 2:31instructor, OK? AKA the Yoda of Closings,
- 2:35contracts and comps. You dominate Rockland,
- 2:37Westchester and Orange like Agps with the 6th sense.
- 2:40OK, this is chachi P TS way of describing you, not mine.
- 2:44You are the oldest of the legendary Alexander siblings,
- 2:49all of whom own real estate companies or are involved in it
- 2:53like a Monopoly board game coming to life.
- 2:56Except you own Park Place and Boardwalk, according to ChatGPT.
- 2:59OK, that's an interesting thought.
- 3:02You're a musical soul, you're a world traveller and you can list
- 3:05your house in perfect pitch and in three time zones.
- 3:08Interesting. I guess you're a musical person.
- 3:11You appreciated this table. I love it.
- 3:12Give me a guitar, I'll play it. Really.
- 3:15You play guitar? Sure.
- 3:16Really self-taught. No.
- 3:18You took lessons. I took lessons, I played in
- 3:21school, everything. Bisakov knows.
- 3:23I still go back. Really.
- 3:24I'll do it. Comes it's.
- 3:25Wow, you sing as well. No, I have sisters for that.
- 3:29Oh, OK, you play, they sing. You're nicknamed the 411 because
- 3:34if she doesn't know who to call, she probably has them on speed
- 3:37dial anyway. Maybe.
- 3:39So you have a lot of contacts in your phone, a few 1000.
- 3:43Over 10,000. Over 10,000.
- 3:45Yeah, that's a lot. That's a pretty good flex,
- 3:47actually. And your clients call you
- 3:50honest, sharp, responsive, and she'll tell you the truth, which
- 3:53is what you started with. Even if the truth is kitchen
- 3:55backsplash is giving a 1998 look.
- 3:59I'm very blunt. Over 650 transactions in the
- 4:03last year alone. Chachi PT is telling me this
- 4:06ranging from ranging from purchases of 52,000 to over a
- 4:10few million. What's your largest 2052
- 4:13thousand purchase? I guess a condo let's say.
- 4:15I don't know. No.
- 4:16What's the smallest transaction you've done?
- 4:19The smallest transaction was many, many years ago.
- 4:21Yeah, And it was like $10,000 on C core.
- 4:25It's right behind the atrium. That was the smallest.
- 4:29It was a dime Savings Bank in those days.
- 4:31Oh wow. So what was it?
- 4:33Was it? Was it?
- 4:34Like a shed or something? Or what's $10,000?
- 4:36A Co-op in Valley View gardens. It was many years ago.
- 4:39How many years ago $10,000 You can't buy a tuna sandwich today
- 4:43for 10,000. Dollars, no, especially not in,
- 4:44you know, I'm not going to mention some names.
- 4:48What's the largest transaction you've ever done then?
- 4:51That's a good question. It's it's something's in the
- 4:543,000,000 range. OK.
- 4:56And you you focus on residential.
- 4:58So yeah. I'm a RES but I'll do some small
- 5:00big ones. Finally, it says here you build
- 5:02brands, you mentor agents, and you help people grow their
- 5:05businesses from scratch. You're like a one woman Shark
- 5:08Tank minus the sharks. And that's what ChatGPT has to
- 5:12say about you, Yeah. I think what ChatGPT is failing
- 5:16to say, and if I would have to surmise this on my own from what
- 5:19I know about, you know, me, you are the OG.
- 5:23You are absolutely by far the trailblazer when it comes to
- 5:27real estate in our communities, in our extended communities.
- 5:31I remember as a kid growing up knowing your name and I didn't
- 5:34know much about real estate as a kid, but I knew your name.
- 5:36You were very popular. You have signs all over the
- 5:38place. Every other house you would
- 5:39drive by, you would see your name.
- 5:41I know about the building that you have on Route 2O2.
- 5:44I've actually been in your building a couple of times.
- 5:46You have to come back. I I see you're upgrading it now
- 5:49and, you know, changing some things around what?
- 5:50Color did you recently you can do it.
- 5:52On it's a bright red color, right?
- 5:53It's. All different shades of Reds and
- 5:55my daughter said it looks like a nail Polish palette.
- 5:57Yeah, yeah. And that's a good thing.
- 6:00Well, everyone thought it wasn't so good, but I like it.
- 6:03Well, people are talking about it.
- 6:04Yeah, that's so that's. The that's the objective.
- 6:06You got people talking, you're top of mind.
- 6:08That's very important. But in all honesty, Michael, I
- 6:11think that you get a lot of credit for getting this business
- 6:15really going in a very, very big way.
- 6:18I think a lot of people, I believe, even worked for you at
- 6:20one point. So you helped a lot of people
- 6:22you know in their careers started.
- 6:24Yeah, we started as Realty teams and now we're Q home sales,
- 6:27right. We granted everything to the
- 6:29black, white and the red. So it's more up to date.
- 6:32So yeah, it's good, Yeah. And so let's get started,
- 6:36Michael, I have so many questions.
- 6:37I have so many things I'm very curious about.
- 6:39There's a lot of things that I would love to uncover how how it
- 6:42all really works because I think most people are on the consumer
- 6:45side, You know, we're not, you know, in the background knowing
- 6:48how things are at the mechanics of the business and, and how it
- 6:51all, how it all works. So I think there's going to be a
- 6:54lot to talk about over here, Michael, I'm.
- 6:55Very just the facts of for for. Oh, so you may not know this,
- 6:59but I know that you've helped build communities and I'm
- 7:02curious about how that works. You go into a area, you know, I,
- 7:04I once saw a television show called The Shield, I believe it
- 7:08was. And the, the police over there
- 7:11were a little bit corrupt in the television show.
- 7:13What they did was they weren't doing drug busts like they
- 7:15should do in the neighborhood because they were driving the
- 7:17prices of real estate down. And all the police officers and
- 7:21the government officials were buying the real estate.
- 7:23And then they fixed the crime in the area.
- 7:25And then they went. Is that something that you're
- 7:26familiar with? That was like a great idea.
- 7:29Sure, if I want to do that, that's.
- 7:30Also probably elaborate. But like, but for those that
- 7:33don't know, I mean, we have an entire development in Wesley
- 7:36Hills that we developed and could not have done it without
- 7:39you and your brother Gabe. And you guys helped us literally
- 7:42build an entire community. Well, let's backtrack.
- 7:46I think you helped us build that community because you were one
- 7:49of the first people to go there. And then you brought your
- 7:51friends, and it became a whole. Yeah.
- 7:53So that's my experience 100%. Yeah, it's it's.
- 7:55Field. Vibe, yes, it actually has a
- 7:58vibe. We it, we interviewed people
- 8:00before they came in to, you know, to and my neighbors make
- 8:02fun of me till today saying, oh, you have to interview us to let
- 8:05us in. I'm like, yeah, I did, you know,
- 8:08we had a chance to pick our neighbors and it was kind of an
- 8:10interesting, unique experience. But you've done that many times
- 8:13without myself. You how do you pick a
- 8:16neighborhood? How does it work?
- 8:17Tell me about the experience. People out there, so all we have
- 8:19to do is put a bunch of nice people together and then it
- 8:21becomes a nice neighborhood. I'm working on doing two more
- 8:25neighborhoods now. Really a new city.
- 8:27Yes, I have 19 lots. I would love to get 19 people
- 8:31who like each other and just all come together.
- 8:34We're actually going to be doing 2.
- 8:36We're putting up two model homes and there's somebody who bought
- 8:41already, which is good. And then we have another
- 8:44development in Montebello, right off of Spookrak Road 11 lots.
- 8:48I feel like you put three people together and you have a hard
- 8:50time getting along. You want 19 people to get along
- 8:52and. Yeah, it's fine.
- 8:53Yeah, it's a big, very long block.
- 8:55Maybe. We're into the property size.
- 8:57Yeah, good. Beautiful.
- 8:58They're acre lots. Good fences make good neighbors.
- 9:00Maybe you want to start a new place?
- 9:01I I've been there, done that. Yeah, he's happy.
- 9:05Where he is you. Could double the size actually
- 9:07will triple the size of your property yeah, and we'll get you
- 9:09a bigger house so you. Want to sell me now on the
- 9:12podcast? I think that you should try to
- 9:13think about this. It's an opportunity.
- 9:15OK. What's the opportunity?
- 9:16It's not going to cost you that much.
- 9:17Look at this. She's always selling.
- 9:19So we we just started the podcast with like 5 minutes in
- 9:22and I'm ready considering moving.
- 9:24I already might move. Tell me what else you got.
- 9:26Amazing. And now I mean, can you please
- 9:27tell us the background? Can you tell us how this all
- 9:29started? How did you get into this
- 9:31business? When did you discover your
- 9:33talent for being a real estate broker and for selling houses
- 9:37and for becoming so successful at it?
- 9:39There's there's got to be passion that's involved in this.
- 9:41So give us the beginning. Tell us when this really all
- 9:45began. I was driving my my blue car on
- 9:48Route 45 in Spring Valley many, many years ago. 37 years, by the
- 9:53way, I was expecting my first child and I heard an ad on the
- 9:56radio and it was Century 21. They said it was like a career
- 10:01in real estate. So I was like, well, let me go
- 10:02see what it is. So I called up the Century 21 in
- 10:05Spring Valley and I said I heard your ad on the radio, not
- 10:08realizing it was Century 21, just in general.
- 10:11So he says, do you have a license?
- 10:12I said no. So I went and got a license and
- 10:15that's when it started. In the first year I didn't make
- 10:17much money. I sold one house, 2 houses.
- 10:20Next year I sold 4 houses. I worked very hard because there
- 10:22was no, there was no Internet. There was nobody there to teach
- 10:25you. The the brokers were not there
- 10:28to they were not there helping us.
- 10:30It was just really weird. Today it's totally different.
- 10:32I actually trained people. I go on appointments with the
- 10:35people. I teach them how to make a phone
- 10:36call. There's so much I what took me
- 10:3910 years, I could teach in three to five, so it's a whole
- 10:42different ball game right now. But that's how I got into it,
- 10:45and then I liked it. You went to work for a company
- 10:47or. Yeah, when you first get a
- 10:49license, you can't open up your own right away.
- 10:51OK, so I worked for a company for many years.
- 10:53I only opened up my own in 2000. And four, what does a license,
- 10:56if you don't mind, what does a license mean?
- 10:58You get a license to sell real estate, meaning like anybody can
- 11:01technically go to somebody and say, oh, you want to sell your
- 11:03house? Oh, you want to buy a house and
- 11:04put the two in together. What's the purpose of the
- 11:06license? To get a license, but basically
- 11:08it's a 75 hour course and at the time when I went it was 45
- 11:13hours. But whatever it is, it's
- 11:14basically the course to teach you everything that you don't
- 11:16need to know about real estate. They teach you not to
- 11:18discriminate. They teach you different types
- 11:21of beams, They teach you different types of deeds.
- 11:24They teach you all the things that you really don't have to
- 11:26know, but you have to know what to pass the test.
- 11:28So that's what we did, pass the test.
- 11:31Now you don't have to be so smart to be in real estate.
- 11:33You just have to be good with people and be able to know how
- 11:37to put something together so it worked out good and then you get
- 11:42smart. OK.
- 11:43How long did you work for someone else in the beginning?
- 11:47How many years? It started in 198788.
- 11:51That's when I started. I opened my own in 2004.
- 11:54I managed somebody else's office for a while and then I started
- 11:58with a company that closed. It was Century 21 out of Bishop
- 12:01Reed. They closed.
- 12:02Then I went to Re/max, they closed and then I went to there
- 12:06was something called New Line Realty and she later became
- 12:09Keller Williams and that that time I went and opened.
- 12:11Keller Williams is still around right there.
- 12:13Yeah, that's. When she started, when I opened
- 12:14my own, she went, really, Yeah. Interesting.
- 12:17Yeah. OK.
- 12:18And I guess you started realizing, hey, I'm pretty good
- 12:20at this. I'm working for somebody else.
- 12:22What's going on over here? I could do this on my own.
- 12:24You don't make more money opening up your own.
- 12:27I, I, I'm telling you, you make less because you now suddenly
- 12:30have to be your own business. You have to pay for everything.
- 12:34It's it's a whole, whole different ball game now that I'm
- 12:36into it. It's not like I'm going to work
- 12:37for somebody else. But basically I do work for
- 12:39everybody. I work for everyone in the
- 12:41office. I do my work in the morning
- 12:42before 9:00 and then I work for everybody else the rest of the
- 12:44day. Are you still now actively going
- 12:47to houses, doing showings and you're still doing that Part I?
- 12:50Love doing, I love that. I, I like doing walkthroughs.
- 12:52I like doing open houses. I like meeting people.
- 12:55That's the best part. And I, yeah, last week I did an
- 12:57open house at a really cool house.
- 12:59You should come and see it. You're selling me on another
- 13:02house or this? 13.8 acres in New City.
- 13:05It has horse stalls. 0200. Square feet a pool.
- 13:09Wow. And it's already has over
- 13:11$100,000 in equity. So I could tell you it's it's
- 13:141.65. It's worth more money.
- 13:17OK, Michael, you just know we're going to have a second house by
- 13:19the time we're leaving. It's going to have, there's a
- 13:21horse ranch on there, I mean. Before we leave this podcast, we
- 13:24are going to buy a second home. I get ready to see where this is
- 13:27going. So tell me a little bit about
- 13:29you. Tell me a little bit about who
- 13:31Naomi Striker is outside of the real estate world.
- 13:33Walk me back a little bit to your upbringing, to your
- 13:36marriage, family. How do you juggle everything
- 13:39with your business? Tell me a little bit about.
- 13:41Yourself. OK, so I'm I'm the oldest of 13
- 13:43kids, but there weren't always 13 kids in the family.
- 13:47I was the oldest one. There were five also.
- 13:49So always being the oldest, getting in trouble for everyone
- 13:52else. But the I went to Yeshiva Spring
- 13:55Valley. When the girls and the boys were
- 13:57in the same school together, I went there.
- 13:59Was code at 1:00. Point No, it was half and.
- 14:01Half oh the building there. Were one building here.
- 14:03The boys were there, but and then I and Maple trees on Maple
- 14:07Ave. So that's it's a while back.
- 14:10There was a no stop. There was a stop sign by three O
- 14:136 N and Maple. I don't know if you remember.
- 14:15That no. OK, so that's how it was.
- 14:17I went there and then we I went to Bay, South Cove.
- 14:19That's what I did. Got married and and.
- 14:24Where did you live growing up? Where, which?
- 14:26Which? Part of town, but Muncie, Oh, my
- 14:28parents who lived on on Crestview.
- 14:30Oh, I know, Crestview. Yeah.
- 14:31And then my first house that I bought was on Brewer Rd. on the
- 14:34other side of of. 15 Wow, way down.
- 14:36Where was that? That's like South.
- 14:37Munster there was nobody there. Yeah.
- 14:41That's so long ago. And then I sold that.
- 14:43When I bought that house was thirteen years old.
- 14:46But now, and I bought it because it's thirteen years old, I
- 14:48figured it doesn't need so much money.
- 14:50I'll go a little further out. How did you afford your first
- 14:53house? Like what?
- 14:54How did that? It's 180,183 thousand.
- 14:57I had to pay 3000 more than it was worth in those.
- 14:59What kind of down payment was it back then?
- 15:01I put down 20% like everybody else, had a $1700 mortgage and
- 15:06we struggled to pay it. It was not easy because there's
- 15:09a lot of money. In those days, people didn't
- 15:11make some. We didn't make so much money and
- 15:14then we had tuitions and all that.
- 15:15If you don't mind, I'm just, you're triggering something in
- 15:18my head now that you're saying that you it was hard to afford
- 15:20it. Yeah.
- 15:21What do you do with, First of all, I'm curious, do you ever
- 15:24sell a house and then you watch it go into foreclosure?
- 15:28I try not to do that. First of all, I'm.
- 15:31I don't want to do that if if I if someone's, but today it's
- 15:35much harder to do that because everyone has so much more to be
- 15:38qualified for. The qualifications are much the
- 15:40the rules are much more stringent.
- 15:42It wasn't always like that. Right when I bought, you were
- 15:44able to do no income verification.
- 15:46People did different things right at that time.
- 15:48I was able to afford it, but it was hard.
- 15:50But it's happened in the past. I'm saying that.
- 15:51Have you seen that? I've had people that bought
- 15:53houses and then 567 years later you say, Oh my gosh, they're
- 15:56going yes. Then I know there are people now
- 15:58who I've sold to who got foreclosed and I called them up
- 16:00and some people are happy to hear from me and some people are
- 16:02very angry to hear I'm not looking to just take what.
- 16:05What would they be angry about? Well, I spoke to one person now
- 16:08and I called up. I see you have like mortgage
- 16:10problems. Maybe I could do something to
- 16:12help or maybe I can direct you to help you just get out of
- 16:15this. And she just got real upset and
- 16:18she hung up the phone. How did you know that she was
- 16:20having problems paying her mortgage?
- 16:22There's no secrets in real estate.
- 16:23It was already in foreclosure of the house.
- 16:25When somebody misses a payment and a few or three or four, the
- 16:29bank puts a list pendants on it. Oh, they do.
- 16:31Public. Information after three or four
- 16:32missed payments. I don't know how many, maybe
- 16:34it's a year, I don't know. It shows.
- 16:35Up So how would you help? What would you offer to help
- 16:37her? How?
- 16:37Would you? So many things to do.
- 16:38First of all, I don't know the whole problem.
- 16:40Maybe they lost their job, maybe somebody got sick.
- 16:42It depends what the story is. Most people have a reason why
- 16:45they can't pay them. Regardless of the reason they
- 16:47can't pay, they don't have the money.
- 16:49OK. And what would you do to remedy?
- 16:50Them OK in this case I knew they their house is worth double from
- 16:55what they paid. They bought it a while ago.
- 16:58So there's a really easy solution.
- 17:00They could sell the house, walk out with some money and start
- 17:02someplace else. But that's not what I even got
- 17:04to tell her on the phone. She didn't even want to know.
- 17:07But the other there's different solutions for different people.
- 17:09Depends what it is. Yeah, but you know why she may
- 17:11have gotten angry? You understand where she's
- 17:13coming from. She's very upset.
- 17:14Because she feels like you're coming in and possibly trying to
- 17:17take advantage of the situation. That's what people and that's
- 17:19how she feels that you call me to tell her to leave her house
- 17:22and start somewhere else. She wants to hear how are you
- 17:24going to help me stay in my house?
- 17:25Well, she had other problems. They had a lack of income.
- 17:28They they lost their income, right?
- 17:30So that was really the problem. But in their case, they really
- 17:33are in a very good position. And this one that I'm thinking
- 17:36about, great position to sell and really start off someplace
- 17:39else because they had a really good house.
- 17:41It could, they can walk out with a nice chunk of change.
- 17:44So then there are other people who, who owe more than what the
- 17:49house is worth. That's a big problem.
- 17:51So in those cases, we do a short sale, we'll, we'll try to make a
- 17:55deal with the bank to sell it for less and get them forgiven
- 17:57for the difference. In this way they could start
- 17:59off. And you facilitate those things
- 18:01that happen. Them all the time, Yeah, I hope
- 18:03not to do them. I don't like doing them.
- 18:05I know, but I'm just curious about that process because when
- 18:07you're selling someone a house, I feel like it's a
- 18:09responsibility. Also, again, you can get your
- 18:12license with your 75 hours and it's not telling you to be
- 18:14careful on what people spend. But I'm saying from a community
- 18:17standpoint, from our community standpoint, when people are
- 18:21buying houses, a lot of times they overextend themselves.
- 18:24So how do you guide people like a young couple that wants to buy
- 18:26a house or a condo and the real estate is like today for
- 18:30$1,000,000 you're pretty much buying a piece of property in
- 18:32Rockland County. I know.
- 18:33So we have, I have a lot of customers like that and I, I, I
- 18:36talk to them like to my kids, I tell them the truth.
- 18:38I don't think you should pay more than this and this on a
- 18:41house. Some of the houses you have to
- 18:42make over, you know, bids over asking and some of them are not
- 18:46worth it. There's actually 1% that was
- 18:48overpaying so much on the House. That said, I'm going to have you
- 18:51sign a paper that I told you that this is too much money.
- 18:53Really. Yes, I don't want to come back,
- 18:55but you want to know what's interesting?
- 18:57And the last, I would say 8-9 years, the prices have been
- 19:01going up every year, five, 1020%.
- 19:04So all those people who overpaid back then, it's worth more money
- 19:08now? They don't look so silly
- 19:10anymore. Yeah, it's so yeah.
- 19:11Here's the paper I sign, haha. It's worth more than what you
- 19:14know, So what I got into a house.
- 19:15So right now, if a person could afford and they want to overpay
- 19:19and they just got the house and then they're relieved, they want
- 19:21to go forward, it's. Great.
- 19:22You know what, I don't know if it's overpaying, if you really
- 19:25desire to be in that specific area because it's worth one
- 19:28amount to one person, it's worth a different amount to another
- 19:31person. It all depends on the criteria
- 19:33of what they're looking for. If somebody specifically wants
- 19:36to be in a certain neighborhood, then naturally they'll pay a
- 19:38little bit more than someone else who doesn't care as much
- 19:40about the neighborhood. They're just looking at the
- 19:42market value of the house. So it's all subjective.
- 19:45It really matters. You know who your customers and
- 19:47what their wants are. What boxes are they looking to
- 19:49check off? I think that's because I
- 19:51happened to have been recently in the real estate market in my
- 19:55area of a family member was looking to to buy a home.
- 19:58So I started looking into it. I was shocked to see what's
- 20:01going on out there. I mean, you cannot touch any
- 20:04property less than like you said, $1,000,000.
- 20:06That really is the number. By the way, $1,000,000 is sort
- 20:08of that threshold, the over under number.
- 20:11And we're talking about getting houses that are 5060 years old.
- 20:15They still need probably a lot of work, you know, to enhance
- 20:19the house. Make it to make it presentable.
- 20:21It's just the, the real estate has spiked, especially in the, I
- 20:25want to say from Viola Road and on all the way down to New City
- 20:28and everything in between. It's gone up so, so much year
- 20:32over year. I think you said 20% every year
- 20:34it keeps going up. What is the reason behind it?
- 20:37Why is this area so hot that the numbers are spiking like such a
- 20:42ridiculous amount? Like, is it going to keep going
- 20:44up? What's is it going to peak at
- 20:46some point and then start going back down?
- 20:48And what drives this? What drives this kind of
- 20:50outcome? It's a lack of housing.
- 20:52If you have no building going on, then you have to buy what's
- 20:56there and if you have 10 buyers for one house, that's what
- 21:00happens. So it's we have to create more
- 21:05construction. The problem is like the new
- 21:06construction, I'm doing 2 new developments, but it's not that
- 21:09enough houses and they're also expensive.
- 21:12They're close to $2,000,000 when you're done.
- 21:15So that's a lot of money. So for first time buyers, we
- 21:18don't have housing. They have to take that old
- 21:21houses and they live with this. Some people, some people don't
- 21:24even fix up the house, they just move in.
- 21:26That's why a house that's moving condition will get more money.
- 21:29There was a house now in New City.
- 21:31It was in Nanuet actually. It's not any special
- 21:34neighborhood. The price of the 699 and I know
- 21:38I gave an offer from one of my buyers, a good offer, a cash
- 21:40offer over ask. I heard it went for almost 100
- 21:44over ask. And it's off by level without a
- 21:46deck. It's nice, but only one little
- 21:50side on the kitchen, maybe 12 feet.
- 21:52So what do you recommend young families?
- 21:53I'm curious a young family that. Comes to you well they have to
- 21:57be really well qualified and they'll be ready to jump when
- 22:00they find the house. So many people say I should have
- 22:03bought the 1st house I I looked at because they want to see
- 22:06everything so they keep. On looking a little, they always
- 22:07think of something better waiting for them, right.
- 22:10You know, I was told when I was in the market for buying a
- 22:13house. I think most people when they
- 22:15need to buy a house, they have 123 children, it's time to move
- 22:19on out of their apartment. Everybody has the same struggle.
- 22:22They can't afford it. They need to come up with the
- 22:24money and hopefully you have parents, you have family
- 22:27members, friends, somebody that you know, an employer, somebody
- 22:30that can help you get that lump sum that you need and you can
- 22:32put together a plan. Not everybody's so fortunate.
- 22:35But what I was told, the advice that I got, and apparently this
- 22:37is advice a lot of people get, is jump in.
- 22:40In your first house, no one is truly prepared.
- 22:42No one has the means. Nobody really knows how they're
- 22:45going to continue to pay for. But it's one of those things in
- 22:47life that you can't start speculating and overthinking.
- 22:52If you should, you shouldn't do it.
- 22:53You got to jump in like and, and it'll happen and it'll be
- 22:56figured out. Don't worry.
- 22:57Everybody's been in that position and we all figured out
- 22:59the end of the day. Sure, you hear some stories,
- 23:00unfortunately, how things don't work out, but those are far and
- 23:03few in between. For the most part, you got to
- 23:06jump in. Do you agree with that?
- 23:07Do you think that it's not something that you should think
- 23:08about for having? I don't like beg, borrow and
- 23:11steal, get the money, make it happen.
- 23:13Now you can't overthink it. And there are people who are
- 23:15overthinkers. And by the way, the people who
- 23:17think the the most are usually smarter people.
- 23:21What if that they, they think too much and they usually those
- 23:24are the people who did really well in college and they're
- 23:27just, they don't know how to jump in because they're
- 23:29overthinking. Yeah, if the house works and
- 23:34it's easy access to work or whatever the story is, you just
- 23:37take it. And but there are some people
- 23:40who are very, very concerned. Who are the neighbors?
- 23:43Who are going to be the neighbors?
- 23:44Oh, I'd rather be the last one in.
- 23:46I have to just know what's happening.
- 23:48And then when they want to be in, there's nothing to buy.
- 23:51So you have to be it's, it's, it's whatever.
- 23:54It's like a shit a. Is there a formula though that
- 23:56you use? When I hear what you guys are
- 23:59saying, I just, I'm tending to disagree a little bit and
- 24:01jumping in. OK, you're right if you're picky
- 24:03about the neighbors and the look of the grass and the property
- 24:06size, exactly the shape of the house I'm talking about
- 24:08financially, though. Well, financially they have to
- 24:10be qualified. I won't even.
- 24:12So is there a formula that you use for people?
- 24:14If I if I'm a young couple with three kids and I'm ready to buy
- 24:17a house, is there a formula that you would tell me financially?
- 24:20Call Anne's Island Gold and ask her to see see what she
- 24:23qualifies you for. No, I understand, but is there a
- 24:25formula that you? Use, I think are you asking like
- 24:28there's two perspectives here from the bank, like if they'll
- 24:30underwrite you a loan or not? Like what are your
- 24:32qualifications? You said you would take.
- 24:34The income level, but I think what you're asking for and what
- 24:36you're disagreeing with us on is that you shouldn't jump in if
- 24:39you get the money and you qualify and you get a mortgage
- 24:41and you're able to buy the home, but you still shouldn't buy it
- 24:44because you might not be financially.
- 24:45They shouldn't just tell me that's.
- 24:46What you're asking what's coming with?
- 24:47The formula is what is the formula meaning if you're making
- 24:50X amount of income. I've I've learned this years
- 24:53ago, I'm curious if it changed that your mortgage which let's
- 24:57not forget guys, $2000 a month on taxes alone.
- 25:00It's 28. It's like 28 percent or ratios.
- 25:03I don't usually do that. I give it over to ANZAL and Gold
- 25:05and yeah, all the shock is. Still the mortgage bro.
- 25:08They figure it out. And also you have to realize
- 25:10that our community has more expenses, so there's tuitions.
- 25:16They have to think about. If somebody has a special needs
- 25:18child, they have to think about that.
- 25:19Then there are people who maybe have alimony.
- 25:21There's a whole bunch of things that go into the formula, and
- 25:24that's where a professional mortgage person really has to
- 25:26look at it because somebody could look like they're making a
- 25:28lot of money and they have nice cars and everything.
- 25:30Meanwhile, they can't even buy a house.
- 25:32Yeah, right. So they've got to really be
- 25:33qualified by professional and then I'll then I'll figure it
- 25:37out. Yeah, Michael.
- 25:37Michael, regardless of all of that, what the formula is is
- 25:41that the end of the day, people are very nervous.
- 25:42How am I going to pay for this? Don't be nervous.
- 25:44I mean, you can be nervous, that's OK.
- 25:45It's a good thing to be nervous, but just do it.
- 25:48You got to jump in because you'll never really be ready to
- 25:50buy a house otherwise. You'll always have an excuse why
- 25:52I don't know if I'm in a position to buy a house today.
- 25:54And those are one of the things that is a a quality of life that
- 25:57you need. You need to live yourself is
- 25:58what you're saying. Push yourself.
- 26:00Agreeing with that, you push. My message is that you got to
- 26:02really, really push. But also, you should know a
- 26:04house is like a bank. You're once you're in there and
- 26:07you start paying it down, right, You know, time flies.
- 26:10Within 15 years, this House could.
- 26:12Be you mentioned, by the way, you mentioned two sisters out
- 26:14of, you know, all your siblings that are involved in mortgages.
- 26:17Yael, who by the way, made a name for herself in general.
- 26:20She's been on a podcast. She speaks about the cost of
- 26:23living and you know, all that stuff.
- 26:25And Hannah, who is also doing great work in terms what are all
- 26:28the other siblings doing? They're all involved in some
- 26:30sort of real estate, right? Because real estate is in our
- 26:33blood, we can't help it. In your.
- 26:35Blood, it's on. I think the whole family, I
- 26:37think it's like. In your DNA, so to speak?
- 26:40How? How did that happen?
- 26:41My father had real estate, he had a furniture store, but then
- 26:44he bought all these single family houses and double
- 26:47families and all around. It so you saw that happen.
- 26:49We watched it. Yeah, we watched it.
- 26:51We had to go to the store. We saw the people coming in to
- 26:53pay the rent. But that didn't motivate us,
- 26:56didn't motivate us to all become landlords.
- 26:58I'll tell you the truth, I hate being a landlord.
- 27:00I I bought stuff and I got rid of it.
- 27:02I really didn't like it. So if somebody tells them they
- 27:04can't pay, OK, fine. So then don't pay.
- 27:07I'm not the type of person to go after them, but there's
- 27:10everybody does something. There's I have two brothers or
- 27:13developers. They do very nicely.
- 27:15They build beautiful things in Rockland County and all over
- 27:18place. There is tequila, they do
- 27:22Obermeister, they do title. I have another sister, Michelle,
- 27:27she goes by and her, she does commercial real estate.
- 27:31I had one sister who said she's going to become a teacher,
- 27:35Shoshanna, you know, Shoshanna Cement.
- 27:37So they do, they have an auto Body Shop and cars.
- 27:40They lease cars. But she started as a teacher, so
- 27:43now she teaches people how to buy cars.
- 27:47So everybody does something. And the younger, you know, oh
- 27:50Reet, she has a diet fantasy. She's amazing.
- 27:53You shouldn't really interview her.
- 27:55Wow. The diet fantasy is she delivers
- 27:57food, makes food for people so it's healthy and they lose
- 28:00weight naturally and she has a place right in new city.
- 28:03You ever went? There.
- 28:04Yeah, of course. Sure, sure.
- 28:05Fantastic. It's really nice.
- 28:07You can get it's very nice. She and her husband.
- 28:09Right. So everyone of you somehow
- 28:10figured out how to be an entrepreneur.
- 28:12You're all a business, build a business, which is fascinating.
- 28:14Yeah, Yeah. Well, we, your parents must be
- 28:16very proud. Well.
- 28:17They're they we were brought up that you're not allowed to have
- 28:19a job. I wanted a job so badly.
- 28:21What does that mean I. Wasn't allowed to have a job.
- 28:24As a female or as a? Allowed to have a job I.
- 28:28Explain that. We, we weren't supposed to have
- 28:31a job. OK, Wanted my father wanted us
- 28:33to have a business. So I did have a job.
- 28:36I went to work at Tillam's in West NYAC.
- 28:38I love fabric. I used to sew things.
- 28:39I sew dresses. I love fabrics.
- 28:41I worked there. And then when I got married, I
- 28:44went and did the real estate. But I'm just saying we didn't
- 28:46have, we didn't believe in jobs and businesses.
- 28:49And the truth is that my father was right because if you have a
- 28:53job to just, you just have so much that you could make unless
- 28:56you have other opportunities, if you have a business, it's
- 28:59harder. And by the way, having a
- 29:01business and building a business costs more money than going to
- 29:03college. Now, I'm not saying I don't
- 29:05believe in college. I have a daughter of mine who
- 29:07went to college. It's not like I, but I'm just
- 29:09saying that if you have a business, there's more
- 29:12potential. Interesting, so you're
- 29:14recommending for people in general?
- 29:16Not everybody's cut out for it. OK, OK.
- 29:19All 13 of you were right. So it's interesting to to think
- 29:22like that meaning that to run a business versus working for
- 29:25someone, I guess, is that the right?
- 29:27Right, that's. Build your own business.
- 29:29Well, and it's helps you and you're able to help other people
- 29:32too. Yeah, you have to be the right
- 29:33type of person. Let me ask you a question.
- 29:36I'm asking this because I know someone right now who put their
- 29:39house on the market in a very hot area.
- 29:42So the house is probably going to sell itself, but this person
- 29:45is doing it directly for Sale by owner.
- 29:48This is always, I believe, the common question.
- 29:50Should I sell the house on my own?
- 29:52Especially if it really is going to come down to having to make
- 29:55appointments. Letting people come into the
- 29:57house being busy with the logistics is the worst part of
- 29:59it. What are the advantages?
- 30:02Like if you had to tell someone, you shouldn't be doing this on
- 30:04your own, you should be using a broker.
- 30:07You should be using a company like us.
- 30:08Forget about why you specifically but use a broker.
- 30:10What are the pros and the cons of doing for Sale by owner
- 30:14versus a broker? OK, that's a good question.
- 30:17And I'll tell you what the first thing that comes to my mind.
- 30:20If someone's an owner and says they want to sell it by owner,
- 30:23it's like why are you selling by owner?
- 30:25Why do you think they want to sell by owner do?
- 30:26You so they save the money. They don't have to pay you the
- 30:28percent. So who's going to save the
- 30:29money? He's going to save the
- 30:31Commission, correct? Or is the buyer going to?
- 30:32Save the seller. Who's paying the Commission?
- 30:34Isn't the seller paying the Commission?
- 30:35OK, so the seller wants to go and get the full price and he
- 30:39wants to keep the Commission. Yeah, it doesn't work like that
- 30:42because what happens is the buyer who's buying by owner,
- 30:45they want to keep the Commission.
- 30:47And I want to tell you, I see it over and over and they they're
- 30:51fighting, well, wait, we're not paying Commission.
- 30:53So therefore we want to take it off the price.
- 30:54And I've seen it happen so many times.
- 30:56The Commission gets taken off the price.
- 30:58So the owner doesn't even get it.
- 31:00Owner gets no representation. But let's go to the next step.
- 31:03OK, There's a money issue. The next thing is the owner
- 31:07can't ask you. Like I'll say hi and how much
- 31:09money do you have? Owner's going to not be able to
- 31:11say, can you show me your bank account and see how much money
- 31:14do you have as a broker? The first question I asked is
- 31:16how much money do you have? And people tell me this way I
- 31:20know what I'm dealing with. If I'm dealing with someone who
- 31:22has no money, then I can't sell them a house.
- 31:24The owner doesn't know that someone could be spending all
- 31:27their money. That's why I say go back to the
- 31:28nice cars. People drive nice cars.
- 31:30They spend a lot of money on the car, but you know they have no
- 31:32money in the bank. So these nice cars drive up to
- 31:35the driveway and the owner thinks he's selling the house to
- 31:37somebody could buy it. And then boom, I get a call with
- 31:41the and come and look at my house.
- 31:42I must sell it right away. I come into the house and
- 31:44there's boxes everywhere. Like what happened?
- 31:46Well, we were supposed to sell it.
- 31:47This very nice guy came, he was supposed to close and he didn't
- 31:49close. That's what happens all the
- 31:52time. So I would definitely not
- 31:54recommend someone to go ahead and sell it on their own.
- 31:57They're not a professional. Would you go to a doctor to fix
- 32:00your broken foot? No, I do this every day.
- 32:04It's easy for me. Yes, it looks easy, but it's
- 32:06really a hard job. So in order to do it right and
- 32:09get the right price and get the right buyer, it should be done
- 32:12by a professional and it should be someone who knows what
- 32:14they're doing, not a new professional.
- 32:15Yeah. And you do see, I think 80 plus
- 32:18percent of the time people use a broker.
- 32:20It's not so more than that. Even 90%, yeah, it's not so
- 32:23common that you see people doing it directly because there's a
- 32:24lot of advantages to having a professional representation, who
- 32:28knows the business who can optimize and get you more money
- 32:31for your house that'll far outweigh the money you might
- 32:34save on the percent that they would be paying you.
- 32:36You're making much more. What is the typical percent that
- 32:39brokers these days, on average, are charging that's considered
- 32:42normal? There's no average.
- 32:43I've seen all kinds of stuff. What's the highest?
- 32:46What's the lowest? I've seen that's a good
- 32:50question. There's there's 6% is 5% is 4%.
- 32:54I saw a broker who took a quarter percent.
- 32:56I'm like, what is going on? Why is this broker taking so
- 32:58little? They're clearly not a good
- 33:00negotiator. You need a good negotiator to do
- 33:03your to sell your house and if they can't negotiate.
- 33:06Less than a percent I. Saw it 1/4 and I was shocked and
- 33:10it was interesting. How did I know about it Because
- 33:12I went to that house and I saw the owners didn't want to pay
- 33:14me. They just wanted me to sell the
- 33:15house. They didn't want to pay me.
- 33:16I said listen, I'm not the right broker for you.
- 33:18So they went to someone else who they really didn't, and the
- 33:21lawyer told me they only got a quarter percent and they got
- 33:24less money. Wow, they got less.
- 33:26Money do you brokers all have this network and you all get
- 33:29along with each other? Is there a politics?
- 33:32Is that because at the end of the day, you guys do need each
- 33:34other because sometimes you have the buyer, sometimes you have
- 33:37the seller and you got to be in constant communication to know
- 33:39what's out there. You got to be educated about,
- 33:42you know, the open market and what's so you do need to keep
- 33:45good relationships, but you're still competitors because you're
- 33:48all vying for the same listings. You all want to get those
- 33:50listings, especially the hot the hothouses you'll want to.
- 33:53Get I can add to that also that it happened recently to a friend
- 33:55of mine where he wanted to find a broker. 1 broker walks in and
- 33:58says I can get you a million. The next broker I can get you
- 34:001.2. And that's the starting of the
- 34:03challenge, right? Like whoa, what what happens?
- 34:05And I like that question because I'm sure there's a lot of it.
- 34:08Going how does it work? What's the code?
- 34:09What's the language between you brokers?
- 34:11I'm nice to everybody of. Course.
- 34:14I'm nice to everybody because I'll tell you the truth, I'm
- 34:18going to have to deal with people with over and over.
- 34:19Now there are some brokers they don't like, but and why don't
- 34:23they like them? It's not because they're not
- 34:25nice people. Maybe they just don't know how
- 34:27to make a deal too. Like when we work, we have to
- 34:30work together. Most of the brokers I'm working
- 34:32with are good. And also if I get 10 offers on a
- 34:34house and, and I see the broker's a great broker.
- 34:38This one's good. I know that the deal's going to
- 34:40close. There's some brokers who bring
- 34:42offers to table deals. It offers and they're not good.
- 34:46They don't deal with good buyers or something's wrong.
- 34:47They don't they mess their own deals up.
- 34:49And we know that there are people who have track records.
- 34:51So it is important to deal with a good broker and as how does
- 34:55work, we all work together. You're the ones that are not
- 34:57nice. I'm nice to them.
- 34:58It's fine. You know what, I don't even have
- 35:01time to get into politics with this, but that's there are some
- 35:05people who like to fight, but that's not me.
- 35:07Right. Let me ask you something else.
- 35:09This is something that comes up a lot.
- 35:11I imagine especially Someone Like You are from Jewish woman,
- 35:16you know, working as a real estate broker in your own
- 35:19community. It can get a little bit
- 35:21political sometimes, you know, especially if you know you're
- 35:23trying to keep a certain neighborhood, you know, intact
- 35:26with a certain style and a certain and a certain demeanor.
- 35:29I imagine that you get a lot of phone calls, that you get a lot
- 35:32of people asking you for favors and this is your business that
- 35:35you're running. How do you manage when isn't,
- 35:38You know, if I'm selling medical supply, that's what I do.
- 35:41And somebody calls me in the side and tells me, can you help
- 35:44me get a wheelchair? Like, OK, like I'll help, you
- 35:46know. But once they start getting a
- 35:47little bit too deep time, let's keep it separate business and
- 35:49personal separate. How do you separate personal and
- 35:52business, especially in your own area, but even in other areas?
- 35:54How do you do that? Well, I'm I, I understand the
- 35:58question, so I'm going to tell you how I work.
- 36:01Whoever has the money and is nice to deal with, that's who
- 36:05I'm going to work with and that's what it is.
- 36:08I don't care if someone wears a Black Hat or black socks, I
- 36:12don't really care as long as they could if they could buy the
- 36:15house and they're nice people. I have no problem selling them a
- 36:18house and I don't care. My own neighborhood where I
- 36:20live, I have all different types of people and I like all of
- 36:23them. They're all fine and there's
- 36:25like 4 shoes so it's fine. There's a place for everyone.
- 36:29So that's how I work and I'm not going to.
- 36:31Somebody calls me, oh I don't want to have them as a neighbor.
- 36:33Then you buy the house. There was a house for sale in
- 36:36the neighborhood next to me and I heard someone say once that
- 36:40the best real estate to buy is in your neighborhood around you,
- 36:43the ones that you can manage it for investment purposes.
- 36:45I'm talking about first of all, are you, are you involved in
- 36:46investment houses as well or is just family?
- 36:49I have I have plenty of investment properties.
- 36:51Plenty. And I want to talk about that
- 36:52for a minute. OK, Because there was a house
- 36:55for sale in another neighborhood, and I knew the
- 36:56neighborhood was getting hot because a shul had just landed
- 36:59there. And, you know, so I called the
- 37:01broker and I said, how much is the house?
- 37:02550? And I said, great, I'd like to
- 37:04buy it. She said, I can't sell it to
- 37:06you. You can't sell it to me.
- 37:09I want to buy the house. Well, you're not moving into the
- 37:11neighborhood. You're just buying it as an
- 37:12investment. And we want people to live in
- 37:15the neighborhood. If you're not living here, you
- 37:16can. And she didn't sell it to me.
- 37:19And I was kind of frustrated about it.
- 37:21But you have to respect it. The reason why it came back
- 37:24around to me is because six months later the family that
- 37:28bought this house flipped it and made $250,000 and moved on.
- 37:31So I couldn't buy it as an investment.
- 37:33But that family that moved in, they were able to buy it and
- 37:36flip it. So I'm curious about your
- 37:37thoughts on that. I If you're trying to build a
- 37:40neighborhood, it's not good to sell to investors, right?
- 37:43When I'm doing this new construction I'm doing now, I'm
- 37:45getting a lot of calls from people who want to do a summer
- 37:47home. Now I'm not the one who's saying
- 37:50I'm not selling it to you, but my the builder said please let
- 37:53me summer home could be last. I don't want to have a block
- 37:56with the first three people summer homes I won't be able to
- 37:58sell the rest of. The I understand, but that's
- 38:00what my question is I guess if you're allowed to do that.
- 38:03No, me personally, no. I'm I'll sell if the if the
- 38:06builder wants or whoever it is wants to sell.
- 38:07The builder can be selected. We make all offer.
- 38:10It's not me saying no, they could do what they want.
- 38:12Can they? That's what I'm asking.
- 38:13It doesn't say that the the discrimination thing.
- 38:16It does not say that you know how to discriminate against
- 38:19people who are buying summer homes, right?
- 38:20It says for race and all, right. But they're doing it.
- 38:23Anyway, for summer homes? But it happens though, where
- 38:27developers are saying I don't want you to sell it to a summer
- 38:29home. They could, if they have another
- 38:31offer for someone else and they want to, you don't have to sell
- 38:34to a house to anybody. If you have a house up for sale,
- 38:36you don't have to take the offer that they give you.
- 38:38So basically what it is, is that person who did that.
- 38:41I understand what it is because when if you're having a
- 38:44neighborhood, a new neighborhood and then everybody's an
- 38:46investor. There are neighborhoods like
- 38:48that in Rockland County. And unfortunately you could
- 38:51drive, drive in those areas and you could tell which house is an
- 38:53investment house. It ruins the neighborhood.
- 38:55Go look in Hillcrest, you have cars parked on driveways, you
- 38:59have kids, not just cars. I mean 10 cars in a driveway.
- 39:04The place doesn't look right that the grass, everything looks
- 39:07terrible because these investment homes do ruin
- 39:09neighborhoods because a lot of the investors don't take care of
- 39:12it. The type of investment home that
- 39:14I would think about. If you tell me that your
- 39:16investor, most a real investor, the ones who are investments are
- 39:19buying multifamily homes, are buying bigger buildings.
- 39:22They're not buying these single family homes, trying to flip it.
- 39:25It's just not the same type of investment.
- 39:27Not so common, yeah. Because the brokers won't let
- 39:29you know the. Problem is, I have to say it and
- 39:32I, I kind of feel like there's no really right or wrong way to,
- 39:36to operate here because I think everybody would do pretty much
- 39:40the same. But for brokers, they're in a
- 39:42very, very precarious situation. Their job, like their skill set
- 39:46needs to be, is how to get the most money possible, not how do
- 39:49I build up this neighborhood for the community so they can have
- 39:52another nice family moving in. That's not their response.
- 39:55That's not what they're worried about, right?
- 39:57So a lot of times they can get like somewhat of a bad stigma
- 40:01right in the industry of the brokers is that they're not out
- 40:04to protect the community. They're not out to necessarily
- 40:07build up the community. They're there to make as much
- 40:11money as possible. For the sellers, for themselves,
- 40:14which is OK, that's their job. That's what we all do when we go
- 40:16to work, want to be the best that we can be.
- 40:18There's no crime in that. But at the same time, there was
- 40:21a little bit of personal infused into this because it's where
- 40:24people live. This is, you know, their
- 40:25community. What, what could be more
- 40:27personal than that? So it can get a little bit
- 40:29dicey. So how do you think that that's
- 40:32that? Because there was a certain line
- 40:34that as a broker they wouldn't cross and they would say, no,
- 40:36no, this is something that I'm not OK with.
- 40:39You know, if somebody wants to move into the neighborhood and
- 40:42we know, God forbid that, you know, they're a predator, Let's
- 40:45just say, for example, obviously that would be a clear line, but
- 40:48something else within that range.
- 40:50Is there a certain line that has a broker in the industry that
- 40:53they understand that we, this is not what we do, but we try to
- 40:56make the most money. But you know, because I think
- 40:58people do have that question. I think people want to know how
- 41:01do they keep, how do they toe the line?
- 41:03But it happens though it happens when it happens all the time you
- 41:06have. Homes that are for special
- 41:07needs, you have. Homes that are are are homes for
- 41:10halfway houses. You have homes that people sell
- 41:13to families that have 32 children and from 5 different
- 41:16mothers. Different we who you can make an
- 41:18offer on the House. You're high in Greenfield.
- 41:20You want to buy this house. Fine, make your offer your best
- 41:22offer. The owner has a right to choose
- 41:25you or not. It's not the broker choosing
- 41:27you. A broker could give advice to
- 41:29facilitate the sale and say, hey, listen, I have three
- 41:32offers. This guy's an investor.
- 41:34This one's going to live in it. This is the one who had the
- 41:36special needs child. OK, these are the three offers.
- 41:39Pick which one do you want. Have you?
- 41:40Have you ever withheld an offer? By the way, this is Stefan.
- 41:43He gets to ask any question he wants at any time.
- 41:45I don't think she's legally allowed to withhold an offer I.
- 41:48I think they. Protect your neighborhood can
- 41:50you like not put that offer in because you know they.
- 41:53Stefan, that's illegal. That's.
- 41:54Literally illegal. I don't know, but that's what I
- 41:57that's the topic though. That's the if you know, for
- 41:59example, if there's a sex offender, it happens and he
- 42:02wants to buy a house. No, no, I know that, but I'm
- 42:04saying. If not my customer, I could
- 42:05choose not to take a customer. I don't have those type of
- 42:07customers. But if you don't know.
- 42:09But if the person makes an offer you, aren't you obligated to
- 42:11bring that offer to your seller? I'll tell you something.
- 42:14Yeah, but the seller. I will know if they are a sex
- 42:16offender. I have a thing in my phone is.
- 42:18That something you look up right away.
- 42:20Look up if something sounds shady or fishy.
- 42:22I had someone who called me and did.
- 42:25The person in my office who's not a real estate agent, the one
- 42:27who picks up the phones. Her name is Rifka.
- 42:29She should listen to your podcast by the way.
- 42:32So she said this one sounds fishy, doesn't sound right,
- 42:35something's off. I said OK, let's look them up.
- 42:37Within 2 seconds on this app that I have, I found out that
- 42:40the guy had arms robbery arrest, had all different problems.
- 42:44Guess what? We don't have a house for him.
- 42:46I'm not working with him. I don't need.
- 42:48It what's the name of this app? It's called Forewarn and it's
- 42:52only for real estate agents. It's a great app and it's
- 42:54fantastic. I'll show you afterwards on my
- 42:56phone. I'll put you in it and you'll
- 42:58see what comes up. Whoa.
- 42:59OK. Not for public consumption
- 43:01though. It's in seconds, I see what kind
- 43:03of car they drive, how many houses they own, stop it.
- 43:05But they paid everything. How old you are?
- 43:07Go ahead, do it right now. I'd like to see what the world
- 43:09to get my phone, what your what your app says about me.
- 43:11OK, we'll get your phone later. I guess it's no problem.
- 43:14So you do some sort of research. We.
- 43:16Have a very good nose like we have developed a nose after all
- 43:19these years we know we could smell on the phone what kind of
- 43:22people if they're real, they send out testers they sent out
- 43:25testers to me so many those I don't know why they were after
- 43:28me but. I was testers.
- 43:29What? Do you mean the the department
- 43:31of whoever state they're sending out testers to see if we're
- 43:34doing things illegally and trying to steer people?
- 43:38I know in a minute. I'll tell you this, I'll say it
- 43:40in a different way, and I mean this with all respect, 'cause I
- 43:43appreciate what you guys do, 'cause I'm a salesman.
- 43:45In my whole life, that's what I've been doing.
- 43:47It's my career. I think real estate is the
- 43:49highest form of salesmanship because you got to really sell
- 43:52something that in a lot of cases doesn't sell itself, and you got
- 43:55to figure out a way how to twist it and how to repackage it in a
- 43:59way that someone. Take a look at this closet.
- 44:00So exactly. So it's something to buy at top
- 44:02dollar, mind you, got to get as much money as possible.
- 44:06So it's a real art form to what it is that you guys do.
- 44:08But I will say that in every neighborhood, I don't care if
- 44:11you're in Lakewood, if you're in Brooklyn, if you're in London,
- 44:14wherever it might be, Crossville, there's always that
- 44:16one or two agents within their own community that they are the
- 44:21ones to go to if you want to sell your house because they
- 44:23know the market. They're very good at what they
- 44:24do. It somehow seems like they're
- 44:26in. I feel bad for them because a
- 44:28lot of people are unhappy with them.
- 44:30They feel like they're just taking advantage of the area of
- 44:33the neighborhood. Now, if they want to sell their
- 44:35house to the first person that they call, whenever they're
- 44:37ready to sell, they call that person, but they know that
- 44:39person is good. It's got to be difficult to be
- 44:42in that position, that type like, I don't envy somebody in
- 44:46this position. Am I wrong on this take like or
- 44:48am I making more than it is? No, it's it's true.
- 44:51So there's something called a farm.
- 44:53So what happens in real estate, one of the things that we teach
- 44:55to agents is that they have to have a farm.
- 44:58So pick an area and usually it's good if it's in your backyard,
- 45:00you pick that area, you know every person there, you're in
- 45:03touch with them, you do your events, whatever you include all
- 45:05these people and you're constantly in touch.
- 45:07And if you could do business just in this farm, you can make
- 45:10a nice living. I don't have a farm like that.
- 45:12My farm is everywhere because I, I have, I have so many
- 45:17opportunities. I have people over the years
- 45:19that have sold and we're in touch with them in all different
- 45:21ways. And they'll call us, they'll
- 45:23come to us. But I make calls.
- 45:24I'll tell you a little. I do birthday calls.
- 45:28If I know someone's birthday, I'll call them.
- 45:30And I actually made a sale 2 months ago.
- 45:32I called this lady happy birthday.
- 45:34And she's, oh, by the way, I just got some money yesterday.
- 45:36I want to buy a house. She bought the.
- 45:38Next week, you never know. So I make my phone calls.
- 45:42I work very hard, OK? I do at least a hundred 120
- 45:45calls a week. There's stuff that we do,
- 45:47solicitation calls, yes and no. They could be birthday calls.
- 45:50They could be like, happy. Relationship calls.
- 45:52Yeah, relationship. I love that word.
- 45:54That's a good, I call them great calls.
- 45:56So I do that. So we work hard.
- 45:59So now this neighborhood thing, like what you're telling me,
- 46:01it's important. It's now you're saying, oh,
- 46:03they're going to go to that person because you know why?
- 46:05They know that that that agent is going to get it done.
- 46:08People call me not because they like me all the time, it's
- 46:10because they know I'm going to get it done.
- 46:12I'm straight up. I tell them this is what it's
- 46:14going to be and I'll get it done.
- 46:16And if I can't get it done, if I see there's something wrong, I
- 46:18tell them right away. I'm not waiting three months to
- 46:20tell them, oh, you should lower the price.
- 46:22Yeah. So that's what it is.
- 46:24Your sales, your sales and marketing tactics have been
- 46:27working for you tremendously. I mean, you have the idea of
- 46:29painting your building on on route 2O2 red and you know,
- 46:32turning your, you know, Q sales and turning their names and
- 46:36branding yourself. Somebody starts to work for you
- 46:39and you training them right. And you've mentored many people
- 46:41over the years that have left you and started their own
- 46:44business. It's.
- 46:45True, right, Which is good. How many people, for example,
- 46:47let's just say. I don't even know but.
- 46:48It's more than a handful. Oh yeah, which is fine.
- 46:52There's room for everybody. Sure.
- 46:53So you meaning you're helping them, you're mentoring them.
- 46:55I feel like every big broker. That's been that's around now
- 46:59has at one point or another worked for you.
- 47:01Is that? Is that a true?
- 47:02Statement in Rockland County would you agree that.
- 47:05No. No, the big brokers that are out
- 47:07there right now, you didn't have some type of.
- 47:09We're the big brokers. If you look in this top ten, Q
- 47:12home sales has the first five are all in Q Home sales and then
- 47:15you'll see one here, one there, one there.
- 47:17Why don't you? I remember when you went big
- 47:19anymore. Yeah, I remember when you went
- 47:21to Q Sales, Realty was a very big name.
- 47:24You guys had a big brand. What was that shift for?
- 47:27Why did you switch wheel to? Designed everything we wanted to
- 47:30be cool cool with a QQ0 0L. That's what it was.
- 47:35Yes, and there were and everybody liked it and it was a
- 47:37lot of work to rebrand it. Who came up with this concept?
- 47:40We all did. It was it was a team.
- 47:42It was a team F really because we wanted we liked different
- 47:45colors. We decided we wanted to change
- 47:46colors. We have these colors of burgundy
- 47:47and yellow. The no more in style.
- 47:50So we went to this black, white, it's, it's out there.
- 47:52And then the triangle. Let me tell you, the triangle is
- 47:54really hard to work with. When we came up with the idea of
- 47:57the triangle, we had designers working on it, how to fit
- 47:59everything in the sign. It's not so easy.
- 48:02It's still hard today for the designers that we use, graphic
- 48:05designers. We get different people's
- 48:07opinions because every designer has a different way of looking
- 48:10at it. But it's been working because it
- 48:12is different and you have to stand out.
- 48:14Whether you're selling real estate or doing your medical
- 48:18supplies, you have to stand out. Why should they go to you?
- 48:20There's some. You know, we had, we had one of
- 48:21ours star sales reps here ended up leaving and going into real
- 48:25estate and he's doing quite well.
- 48:27And you know, I think that, you know, the funny, the best part
- 48:30about it is he calls us and tells us all the time that
- 48:32without the knowledge and the training that I had to learn how
- 48:35to sell and to cold call and to build my what we call territory
- 48:40and you call farm, right? He wouldn't be able to be
- 48:42successful as to what he is today.
- 48:44And if somebody, you know, there's a lot of listeners that
- 48:47are always contemplating careers that we have in our podcast,
- 48:50that they're always maybe I should shift careers.
- 48:52Maybe I should start a career in real estate.
- 48:55I'm curious about that process. The young people that are coming
- 48:57to you, when you're mentoring them, you're obviously doing
- 48:59such a good job that they're able to learn how to do it on
- 49:02their own and they're moving on. What are those tricks that you
- 49:05tell them? What when they first come?
- 49:06What is that process? Like the first thing is I tell
- 49:09them it's not taking a year, it's not taking two years, it's
- 49:12going to take a minimum of five years.
- 49:14And I give them work. They have to learn how to, they
- 49:16have to master the phone. If they can't talk on the phone,
- 49:19it's not for them. But the other thing is I do is I
- 49:21do a personality test before I take them in and I find out
- 49:24where the strengths are. We do a disk test.
- 49:27You know what? That is a disk test.
- 49:29So the disk, the D, the dominant person, the I, that's a hot, the
- 49:32I person is the great salespeople.
- 49:34Everybody likes them. Good salespeople are eyes.
- 49:37I'm a fake eye. OK, The S, The S is the server
- 49:41person, the person who works in the office.
- 49:42I have someone named Brittany. She's the server.
- 49:44She does all, you give her a list.
- 49:46It's done by 10:00. That's the S You probably have
- 49:49one who works for you too. Then this is C, the sea.
- 49:53There's usually the smartest people.
- 49:55Those are the accountants, the engineers, but they're the
- 49:57hardest customers and they're the worst agents because they
- 50:00ruin their own deals because they're so analytical that
- 50:03they'll be measuring the amount of oil in the tank instead of
- 50:05making the deal. The oil and tank is irrelevant
- 50:07really, but they want to make sure that their buyer gets the
- 50:09money back for the tank, the oil, whatever.
- 50:12You know what I'm saying? So there's all these people, but
- 50:15we need all those type of people.
- 50:16Now. Some people are a mix of both.
- 50:19When I did the disc test on me, I'm AD and ICI have the C, I'm
- 50:22good at the plans, the architects are CS.
- 50:25I'm good at these type of thing. I'm good at puzzles, but I'm AD.
- 50:28So there's different, everybody's different.
- 50:31So you have to see what the personality is.
- 50:32So when I take someone in, if I see there AC and I'm like OK,
- 50:35you really should become something that maybe you want to
- 50:38consider being a doctor, a surgeon, those type of people
- 50:41that's those are CS. So you have to see what they are
- 50:44and a lot of people go into the wrong business.
- 50:46And that's why I say that when you heard, remember there used
- 50:48to be shootings in the post office, the workers, you'd shoot
- 50:51people. What?
- 50:52It's because you don't. Remember years ago?
- 50:54Yes, years ago. What?
- 50:55What are you talking? About that's, I think where the
- 50:57term came from going postal. Yeah, you're kidding me.
- 51:00Yes. I just made that up, but that
- 51:02makes sense. But that stuff, and you could
- 51:03look that up, but that totally makes sense.
- 51:04No, but it's true because. One of that mailman used to
- 51:07like, walk into people's homes. But not the mailman.
- 51:09The people working in the post office.
- 51:10Oh oh. Yeah, why did I bring that up?
- 51:12Because they were the most I guess where they were miserable.
- 51:14And no, they hate. Boring life, they don't like
- 51:16their job. They like your.
- 51:17Job, they wouldn't be shooting people, right?
- 51:19Doesn't make sense, right? Interesting.
- 51:21So that's what it is. You want people to like the job.
- 51:23In my office, that's a very, very big thing.
- 51:25I want everybody to like their job.
- 51:27Quality of life, I feel that they're working, yeah.
- 51:29Brittany loves her job. How many people are in your
- 51:32office? How many people work for real
- 51:33for accused teams? Huh.
- 51:35Around 30. 30 people. That's between brokers and
- 51:37people in the office. The staff, yeah, the staff is
- 51:39great. We have such good staff.
- 51:41We really got it down. We have no drama in the office.
- 51:44We got rid of it because since we started doing this, this test
- 51:47and it's not a cheap test to do, but it's worth it.
- 51:50Before I hire, they have to take this test and then they have to
- 51:54go through the other people in the office to approve.
- 51:56You're giving a lot of credibility to this test and I'm
- 51:58liking it. Actually I understand where this
- 52:00is coming from. Thing because I want to tell you
- 52:01I changed my life. It changed my life.
- 52:04And also I don't, I like everybody.
- 52:06You want to go into real estate, Sure, I'll teach you, that's
- 52:08fine. But then what happens is so many
- 52:11people fail. And the reason is because I
- 52:13think everyone could do what I did, but it's not really for
- 52:16everybody, right? Not everybody's ready to do it.
- 52:18So do you have any partners in the business or are you I?
- 52:21Told you I work for everybody. Everybody's my partner.
- 52:23Yeah, but this is What about your husband?
- 52:26Is he a part of this business or does he do?
- 52:28So no, my husband. My husband works in.
- 52:31Does he do anything for the business?
- 52:32Sometimes he does stuff for us, but that's not he has his own
- 52:34thing that he does. He does diamonds.
- 52:36He helps people when they get engaged.
- 52:38That's a nice place to be. Yeah.
- 52:40So you guys are a team effort, really.
- 52:41You get engaged and five years later you get a call.
- 52:43You need a house. Exactly.
- 52:44So many times you get those people call me.
- 52:46And my sister will do your title, and my other sister will
- 52:48do your iron. Between her and her brothers and
- 52:50sisters, they got the whole ecosystem 100% down pat from
- 52:54literally the point of looking for a house to the all the way
- 52:58down through closing, even during construction where all of
- 53:00it like you have the title company, the deed company,
- 53:03right? All of that you have everything
- 53:05lined up for for your clients. See how lucky they are.
- 53:09We have a network. You come to us, we take care of
- 53:11every. One stop and shop.
- 53:13Yeah, you don't have to go anywhere.
- 53:14Else I have I have in my phone. I have so many different people.
- 53:17This is not part of my family, but I have a dog Walker I sold
- 53:20to her house. So when I have people who need
- 53:21to have a a dog sitter, I say I have someone here.
- 53:25I have people on my phone for everything.
- 53:26Yeah, you're a shotgun like we. Said earlier, nicknamed the 411.
- 53:32Yeah, because she's out there and she's meeting people and
- 53:35putting people together is what are your trade?
- 53:37That's that's exactly what you do.
- 53:39You know, we spoke about a few things that you said, which are
- 53:41important. I'm curious, you know, because
- 53:42we asked our guests in the middle of the podcast, which is
- 53:45what we're holding. What would your message be to
- 53:47people in general? And there's so many things you
- 53:49can, you've said so many things, but is there one particular one
- 53:52in terms of buying a house or growing a business or sales or
- 53:56or business development? What would be that one thing
- 53:58that someone comes to? You say this is my message that
- 54:00I want everyone to. I would tell you to find a
- 54:03mentor. Find a mentor, someone who you
- 54:06could talk to, who could teach you whatever it is that you like
- 54:08to do. If you want to become a real
- 54:10estate broker, then go to someone who could help you.
- 54:12Go to if you want to. My daughter has a shoe store.
- 54:14If you like fashion, then go there.
- 54:16It's different. You have to find someone that
- 54:19you could learn from. I think that's important.
- 54:22That's a great message, actually, and I know for a fact
- 54:24that you're a mentor to a lot of people, so you're speaking the
- 54:27truth. Doesn't the Mishnah and
- 54:29Prickyovos say that whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- 54:31Isn't that their advice? It's fine, You know, recently,
- 54:33recently. Which in essence means a, a
- 54:35mentor. Everybody should always have
- 54:37that one person that they go to, to, you know, Mull things over
- 54:41with ever. Since we had Jake Turks here who
- 54:43opened the Safer on the podcast. Oh, she just likes to throw in
- 54:46these different, you know. Alerts for us Yeah, he bought
- 54:49with him his farm and he whipped it out and he put us to work
- 54:51and. It's about the prophecies of
- 54:53Avadhya and the the, the Mashiach coming and and all that
- 54:57stuff. For you, you get to learn so.
- 54:58Much every. Every single.
- 55:00This has been truly great. Yeah.
- 55:01I've been loving this every minute of it.
- 55:03And I'm also realizing just how many the diversity of the people
- 55:06that are out there and the the knowledge base that, you know,
- 55:09we're acquiring from all of those people is paramount.
- 55:12And especially we see, you know, on the cassette side, we just
- 55:16see all these incredible people and their stories that they're
- 55:18coming out with. It's just been so uplifting.
- 55:20It really has been inspiring and eye opening in so many ways.
- 55:24But let me ask you something else.
- 55:25You know, I want to pick your brain a little bit here.
- 55:27I happen to think I'd be a great real estate broker, if I may say
- 55:30so myself, if I could toot my own horn for a minute.
- 55:32Oh. Which one is he?
- 55:34Yeah, yeah. I mean, you only met me for like
- 55:3530 minutes. That's not fair.
- 55:36Judge me just. A high eye, you know she knows.
- 55:38You have a high eye. Oh yeah, she saves her money.
- 55:41Yeah, you're. Good.
- 55:43Do you like me? Is it working?
- 55:45Excellent. Excellent.
- 55:46OK, OK. Yeah.
- 55:47Yeah. Next thing, you want to buy a
- 55:48wheelchair, please call me. OK?
- 55:50Don't call anybody else. But let me ask you if people out
- 55:53there are counseling, you know, thinking about resale value in
- 55:57their house, what's a very important thing when you're
- 55:58buying? You got to think about what
- 55:59would it be worth, You know, of something, an exit strategy, I
- 56:02guess, so to speak. What are some of the advice that
- 56:04you give people in their house? Like when someone's buying a
- 56:07house, what's the one thing they should look for in the house
- 56:09that's very important? A big kitchen, a big dining
- 56:11room, I don't know, 2 1/2 baths. Like what's something that's
- 56:15important as a baseline that when you're looking for a house,
- 56:18a starter home you're looking for like this is what you should
- 56:21care about. Don't care about this.
- 56:22This is petty. This is trivial.
- 56:24This is a big deal that you'll validate.
- 56:25What's that thing? OK, so first of all, it depends
- 56:28on the customer. I have a musician that I'm
- 56:30working with right now. It's very important to him that
- 56:33he has a place for his studio. So I look at every house.
- 56:36Where's the studio going to be? So you have to look at where you
- 56:39know what's good for the customer.
- 56:41And then you say, OK, is this house going to match up with the
- 56:43customer? I mean, I like that house that
- 56:45has that studio in the back of it.
- 56:48I don't know for myself, but it's very good for him.
- 56:50It works for him. So the same thing is with
- 56:52everything with the house. What is important that I think
- 56:55it's in the house. For a family For a typical
- 56:56family couple with 2-3 kids. A what?
- 56:59A master bath. A master bathroom.
- 57:00But there are homes that don't have master bathrooms and there
- 57:03are single people who buy them and they're fine with them.
- 57:05There's a whole bunch of them in Garnerville all over the place.
- 57:07These starter homes, they all have one bathroom and it works.
- 57:11But one bathroom? An entire house.
- 57:13Yeah, these small houses are 1100 square feet and they they
- 57:16have one bathroom, but. That's brutal, yeah.
- 57:18But they're they're less than 1,000,000.
- 57:20Dollars. So on that note, so on that
- 57:21note, in in terms of young family looking to buy a house
- 57:24and they don't have that budget, their budget is five, $600,000,
- 57:28which is a normal price to pay with a $1500 a month tax.
- 57:32What do you recommend to them? Yeah, Where they going these
- 57:34days? Again, it depends on the
- 57:35customer. No, no, I'm telling you it's A5
- 57:37600,000. I'm telling you they.
- 57:39Could buy, I'll tell you where they buy, they could buy a condo
- 57:41in Blueberry Hill. OK, those are we have for five
- 57:46603 bedroom 2 1/2 bath duplex now OK, that's not a
- 57:50neighborhood 599. No, it's a neighborhood.
- 57:52Why not for young families? There's so many people live in
- 57:55Blueberry Hill. OK, so Blueberry Hill, meaning a
- 57:57condo you're you're you're you're opening the eyes to
- 58:00people that if they want to live in the Rockland County community
- 58:02and you want to have a half $1,000,000 budget, buy a condo.
- 58:04Well, go to Heritage Dr. It's called New City Condominiums.
- 58:08That's right. In New City they're Tri level.
- 58:10Some of them have walkout basements.
- 58:12Those are great. Those are those are three
- 58:14bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths. Some of them have two full baths
- 58:17and two half baths. Those are under 500,000.
- 58:19So these are attached like, you know, condo.
- 58:23Houses are $9000. The maintenance is $440 a month.
- 58:27So what used to be a starter home is now a starter condo.
- 58:30There always was. The condos used to be 300,000
- 58:32when the houses were 600,000. So they have to look at condos
- 58:36if that's their budget and if they don't want it, they have to
- 58:38have a garage. Then they're going to get a
- 58:40small house with a garage. They can go to Gardnerville,
- 58:43they can go to Stony Point, you can go to New City, you can go
- 58:46to. Well, and again, we're not
- 58:49limiting it only to Rockland. Anywhere you go, you can always
- 58:51buy a condo. OK.
- 58:52The other option is, and I have a lot of people are moving to
- 58:55Orange County. I have to tell you, I've been
- 58:57selling houses in Orange County. I never thought I would.
- 59:00I'm sorry, where's Orange County?
- 59:01Give me a city. 'S town.
- 59:02You're going to go up the Palisades.
- 59:05It's Monroe, Woodbury, Chester, Warwick, Pine Bush.
- 59:10Further out, another half an hour further on the Palisades.
- 59:13Fine but there's some people are fine with that and I'm selling a
- 59:16gorgeous house. I love the house. 10 acres in
- 59:20Warwick and it's going for under 1,000,000.
- 59:22Wow. Yes, and it has a pool and it's
- 59:254500 square feet. Wow, is there a community there
- 59:28yet or not yet? 10 acres.
- 59:30Michael, all you need is 234 people to buy houses over there
- 59:34and they have to, they have to, you know, wing it for the first
- 59:37few years and. So she, a lot of people are not
- 59:39willing to be a pioneer, right? Very difficult, but like people.
- 59:42Are and that's how these other neighborhoods started.
- 59:44How do you think Pomona started? How do you think new cities
- 59:46started? How do you think Havasur
- 59:48started? There was those four or five
- 59:49people that took a chance and that went out there and they,
- 59:53they, they had a hard time in the beginning, but you know,
- 59:55they built it up and they got in one of the first ones.
- 59:58They got it cheap. They got it before the price of
- 1:00:00skyrocketed. And that's the advantage we're
- 1:00:02talking. About building communities,
- 1:00:04we're obviously in terms of you want to buy a house, you can
- 1:00:06buy. Anywhere I'm thinking about it,
- 1:00:08I'm think I, I don't know if I, if I'd be so opposed to it.
- 1:00:10You're telling me in Orange County, if I can get a 10 acre
- 1:00:13property with a beautiful house and a pool and like, you know,
- 1:00:17listen, I love my neighbor. I love where I am, but I I would
- 1:00:20consider it. So if I would consider there's
- 1:00:22got to be plenty of people right that would move there for a
- 1:00:24first time. They're considerate like this.
- 1:00:26Should I'm I'm. Is this your new path?
- 1:00:28Like you, if it's somebody like you, then you'd have to come
- 1:00:30with like 3 friends and we'd have to find.
- 1:00:32We're done. That's it.
- 1:00:33We're good to go. But 10 acres is.
- 1:00:34Big My problem is I wouldn't let other people move in.
- 1:00:36I don't want more people. I'm happy with just about 3-4
- 1:00:39people in my inner circle right there and I'm like, I'll put red
- 1:00:42cones all around so nobody knows about this place anymore.
- 1:00:45That's what I would do. What time do you wake up in the
- 1:00:48morning? 520.
- 1:00:50Stop it. 520. Not 53520. 520.
- 1:00:54What's your youngest kid? What age?
- 1:00:56He's 12/12. Wow.
- 1:00:58OK, so you, you're up at 5:20 in the morning and the first thing
- 1:01:01you. Have to do my work.
- 1:01:02I have to get back and get to the office.
- 1:01:04I told you I do all my work first and the rest of the day I
- 1:01:07work for everyone else. Wow, what time do you go to
- 1:01:10sleep at night podcast? How do you get up so early every
- 1:01:12day? I go to sleep earlier.
- 1:01:14Wow, I'm in my bed by 10. You're still answering my
- 1:01:17Whatsapps at 11 sometimes. You're up.
- 1:01:19Maybe he's not a mess of Chavez. OK, so you're you're in bed by
- 1:01:2210:00. Yeah.
- 1:01:23Wow, wow, that's a lot of hard work and and do you take I know
- 1:01:28this personally about you, so I'm going to ask you this and
- 1:01:30maybe you can share with us some of the places that you've been.
- 1:01:33You do go vacation, right? You you take time off.
- 1:01:35I love seeing things. You like traveling?
- 1:01:38I like to travel, but I like to see things.
- 1:01:40I like nature. That's why I get excited when I
- 1:01:42get this house and new city that has this four horse horse stalls
- 1:01:46and views. I love views.
- 1:01:47If you come to my house you'll see I have gorgeous views of the
- 1:01:50Harriman State Park. A beautiful views.
- 1:01:53I like it. I like seeing nice things and I
- 1:01:56like to see what was created. I mean, I've been different
- 1:01:58places, so I've been to Africa. I want to go back there.
- 1:02:02You were in Africa? Yeah, I always want to go to
- 1:02:04Africa. Oh, you got to go.
- 1:02:05How was it? It was fantastic.
- 1:02:07I saw like animals that you never saw before.
- 1:02:09I met Curious George. I met Simba.
- 1:02:12Nala. I met the whole everybody.
- 1:02:16That's great. That's great.
- 1:02:18So you've been to Africa? Everybody, I'm telling you, you
- 1:02:20tell me. I saw them all.
- 1:02:22Wow. OK, where's the place?
- 1:02:24Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:02:25Where's the place that you want to go to then, if you've already
- 1:02:27been to Africa? No, I went, my last trip was to
- 1:02:30India, but we only went to the northern part, so the Taj Mahal.
- 1:02:33It's crazy. India is crazy.
- 1:02:35I'm sure you saw some of my videos.
- 1:02:36It's nuts if you're not, if you can hear, it's noise.
- 1:02:40Even if you're deaf, it's it's noise all over the place.
- 1:02:44So I want to go back because I didn't go.
- 1:02:45It's India's big. We missed out so much.
- 1:02:48I'm curious, to be honest, when you go out to these places, are
- 1:02:51you thinking real estate when you go around?
- 1:02:53Always look to see if just the sale signs and you know in India
- 1:02:55there were no for sale signs. What does that mean?
- 1:02:57How do they sell houses? No, they have no signs there.
- 1:02:59I was like thinking, wow, there's so many opportunities
- 1:03:01here. They have a in India, they have
- 1:03:04a one mile thing of the slums. It's it's incredible. 1,000,000
- 1:03:07people live in in a mile square and then right next to it is
- 1:03:11this $35 million house. Wow.
- 1:03:15But I guess Slumdog Millionaire, one of my favorite movies.
- 1:03:17Oh, really? Did you ever get on that movie?
- 1:03:19I didn't, I don't watch movies, but that that sounds
- 1:03:21interesting. Yeah, I mean, it takes place
- 1:03:23primarily in India, the movie. It's insane.
- 1:03:25And it's about two kids from the slum grew up in the slums, and
- 1:03:28then one ends up going on a show.
- 1:03:30It's their version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire.
- 1:03:32Do you remember that game show that we used to have here?
- 1:03:34So they had that version over there.
- 1:03:35And somehow this kid ends up coming up with all the answers,
- 1:03:38and each one traces back to a part of his life of why he knew
- 1:03:42the answer to that question. And it's just an incredible
- 1:03:45movie. It's a great movie.
- 1:03:46Won a couple of awards, but you just treated that memory for me.
- 1:03:51That's great. Back to the real estate.
- 1:03:53I'm very intrigued by this, but it's very honored that we have
- 1:03:55you on the podcast. I really mean it.
- 1:03:56I think it's a big deal that you're here.
- 1:03:57Honored to. Be it really.
- 1:03:58Is, by the way, has there ever been a property that you sold
- 1:04:01multiple times? Like, more than one.
- 1:04:03Like, let's say more than three. Times I I Yes, there's one I
- 1:04:06should say the address. It's on 220 Sato River Rd.
- 1:04:10I sold that so many times. I made more money than the house
- 1:04:14is like worth. It's like the first time I sold
- 1:04:18it. I don't remember all the prices.
- 1:04:20I think it was like 100 something.
- 1:04:22Then I sold it again, it was 200 something.
- 1:04:24Then again and again and it was like, I think.
- 1:04:26You keep making money on it every time.
- 1:04:28Yeah. And then even in between, I
- 1:04:29ended up buying it because I didn't have a buyer and there
- 1:04:32was the person who was in trouble was the whole story.
- 1:04:34I said, OK, so I'll buy it and fix it up.
- 1:04:36And then I sold it and then it's it's at least I think 6 or 7
- 1:04:40times. Wow.
- 1:04:41Good questions the. Last, people are there for a
- 1:04:44long time. Amazing.
- 1:04:46I just drove by it the other day, it looks the same.
- 1:04:48Do you remember your biggest sale that you've done on your
- 1:04:50career that you made the most money on?
- 1:04:52Forget about the one that I made the most the most money on that
- 1:04:54you made like. AI don't know that's like an I
- 1:04:57have to go look at all my checks, but one that I made the
- 1:05:01most. We're making good money now.
- 1:05:02The house prices are are pretty good.
- 1:05:04The higher the the property value goes up, the more money
- 1:05:07you're making. Right.
- 1:05:08And then so it's. Zero 100 percentage base.
- 1:05:10But also cost us more money to live and more money to run a
- 1:05:13business. I just redid my office.
- 1:05:15I never ever thought I would put into the office more money than
- 1:05:18what the office cost me. Well, the building, I put in
- 1:05:21more money in it than what the building is and I'm still not
- 1:05:24done. It's the prices of things have
- 1:05:26gone up like really a lot. You can't fix a house anymore
- 1:05:30for 2025 thousand. It's a joke.
- 1:05:32Since COVID it went crazy. You know to fix a house.
- 1:05:35Now it's a minimum. Like I say, if you're going to
- 1:05:39redo a high ranch, even if it's basics, it's $125,000 easy, but
- 1:05:44it's really 150 to 180 when you're finishing the windows and
- 1:05:48the roof and the siding, it in the driveway, everything.
- 1:05:51It's just cost so much. Money.
- 1:05:52Are people buying less houses now that the rates have gone
- 1:05:54crazy in the last couple of years?
- 1:05:56Are people buying less? Or do you see that people are
- 1:05:58buying just as much regardless of the whole rate situation?
- 1:06:01It's not that the people are buying less right now there's
- 1:06:03425 houses for sale in the whole Rockland County.
- 1:06:06You kidding? Not a lot.
- 1:06:07That's not a lot at. All No, it's very little.
- 1:06:10Two weeks ago was 450, last year was 350.
- 1:06:15So we have more opportunities now because more people feel
- 1:06:17comfortable to sell their homes. You have to understand a person
- 1:06:20who's selling their home has to have a place to go.
- 1:06:23And a lot of places and a lot of people don't have a place to go
- 1:06:26if they're going to Florida or wherever.
- 1:06:28The retirement home, that's great.
- 1:06:30But there are people who say, hey, I want to stay in Rockland,
- 1:06:32then I where can I go? And the answer is, there's
- 1:06:34nowhere to go, so you may as well stay.
- 1:06:37Yeah, you're gonna make a lot of money out of your house, but you
- 1:06:38have to spend that for the next house more.
- 1:06:41So what's the maybe? Even more, and then they don't
- 1:06:43even get what they want. But a lot of people in our
- 1:06:46business, we do some make. We do make some people move.
- 1:06:48Yeah. I have one story that I like to
- 1:06:50tell these people. They're very, I'm very good,
- 1:06:54very close with them. I know them very well.
- 1:06:56They lived in a small house, a big family with 1900 square
- 1:06:59feet, this small split level in the middle of Muncie.
- 1:07:01One day I called them up. I said, hey, you know, I just
- 1:07:04listed a house in Pomona, nice big 4000 square foot colonial
- 1:07:08walk out, finished basement. Maybe you want to do a trade and
- 1:07:12get an upgrade. It's not going to cost you more
- 1:07:14money. And so the husband said, that
- 1:07:16sounds great. The wife is OK.
- 1:07:18I don't know. I really like where I am, but
- 1:07:19let's see. They take a look at it and
- 1:07:21they're like, oh, yeah, this really works.
- 1:07:22And then the wife says, this is too fancy for me.
- 1:07:26I'm like, no, it's not fancy. It's normal.
- 1:07:27It's a regular colonial. I had a brick middle front.
- 1:07:32It's not fancy. Anyway, they ended up buying
- 1:07:35that house. It was the best move.
- 1:07:36And I, their kids, their daughters, when they got
- 1:07:38married, they walked down the stairs.
- 1:07:41But that that I love doing that and make me move to somebody
- 1:07:44like that who never, ever thought they'd have more.
- 1:07:46I got them the chandelier and the two-story entry because I
- 1:07:49knew they would never buy one. I told the owner it has to stay
- 1:07:52but it's it's nice and they're still there and they can meet
- 1:07:55their friends and relatives. Yeah.
- 1:07:58Does a pool add value to a house by is there like a a percentage
- 1:08:02that adds to the house? Is there a dollar amount?
- 1:08:04How does it work? No, it makes it more sellable.
- 1:08:07Is there a dollar amount? Like should I build the pool?
- 1:08:09If I want to sell on my house should I go that far?
- 1:08:12What's that? Depends where it is.
- 1:08:14I have a house for sale right now.
- 1:08:15We just put it up last week and everyone who wants to buy that
- 1:08:18house, I get calls. It's a $2,000,000 house.
- 1:08:21Does it have a pool? That price range, people expect
- 1:08:24the pool, yes. Now, if you're in a 650 price
- 1:08:26range, you're not even thinking but.
- 1:08:27Toshi's point? You should invest a few 100
- 1:08:29grand. I know, but if you have a
- 1:08:30$600,000 house, don't put. No, no, I'm saying for the
- 1:08:33$2,000,000 house it would make sense.
- 1:08:34Yeah, if it's a 2. $1,000,000 house and I want to sell it.
- 1:08:36Makes sense they put a pool in to sell it for now. 3 million.
- 1:08:40Not everybody wants to pool. I sold the house to somebody who
- 1:08:43says I absolutely don't want to pool.
- 1:08:44I'm going to fill it in. I have one right now.
- 1:08:47They're a family that don't want to pool.
- 1:08:48My ability. You know, she asked a good
- 1:08:50question before and we're going to have to wrap up in a few
- 1:08:51minutes, but I want to ask you this question also before I sell
- 1:08:54my house, what give me a tip, what can I put into my house to
- 1:08:58make it more sellable? Just just get rid of all your
- 1:09:02stuff and just leave it. I would, I would come in there.
- 1:09:06I'll send you a professional. Just somebody to just get rid of
- 1:09:09all your stuff and make it look like a house that someone can
- 1:09:11move into. All your pictures on the wall
- 1:09:14and all your certificates. People don't need to see it.
- 1:09:17It's just got to look clean. People, less is better.
- 1:09:20Oh. It's so true.
- 1:09:22I remember the first apartment that I went to go look at when I
- 1:09:24first got married. It was like a 2 bedroom
- 1:09:26apartment in Victoria. And we walked in and the place
- 1:09:29was like, you know, like they lived there.
- 1:09:31And I was like, Oh my God, there's no way I can live here.
- 1:09:34My wife's like Stephen, close your eyes and then open them and
- 1:09:38they say there's nothing in the apartment.
- 1:09:40Now look at it Exactly. And I was like, oh.
- 1:09:42Makes sense. That makes sense.
- 1:09:43OK, well ChatGPT could help you now.
- 1:09:45Yes, I I was just going to say that.
- 1:09:47And it clear the counters and it takes everything away.
- 1:09:50It's very deceiving though. Kitchen sink.
- 1:09:51I don't like it. You know what they're doing now,
- 1:09:53the ChatGPT and with the AI, they're actually taking
- 1:09:56furniture and they're putting it back into the house to show you
- 1:09:59how it could potentially actually look, which is very
- 1:10:01misleading because most people aren't going to spend that money
- 1:10:04for that specific type of furniture in the house.
- 1:10:05And it makes the house look prettier, makes it look better.
- 1:10:07It's great for marketability. It's good for the sellers, it's
- 1:10:10good for the brokers because they're presenting it in a much
- 1:10:12nicer package. But it's deceiving.
- 1:10:15It's a little deceptive when you're showing that.
- 1:10:17And it also changes the picture. I want to tell you, if you look
- 1:10:20really closely, it might change the kitchen cabinet a little
- 1:10:23bit. Yeah, I've seen it.
- 1:10:24The. Color changes the color.
- 1:10:25It changes things. They'll put an extra light bulb
- 1:10:27or take out something. It's it's not perfect, but I've
- 1:10:31seen people put pools in backyards which I think is
- 1:10:34really deceiving. That's very deceiving.
- 1:10:36That's lied. Not even right.
- 1:10:37That's blatantly lied. I don't.
- 1:10:38Know why they're putting a pool when there's no pool?
- 1:10:40Well, nobody's thank God. Nobody's buying houses based off
- 1:10:42what they see on pictures. I think most people.
- 1:10:44It's the first impression. Is have you ever sold the house
- 1:10:46to someone who never actually went and saw the house?
- 1:10:48All the time. All the time all.
- 1:10:50The time. You're telling me that a new
- 1:10:52time, first time homeowner, whatever, is not first time, not
- 1:10:54first time, but even somebody who's moving.
- 1:10:56Yes, I have a good deal for you. I send you the pictures, you say
- 1:10:59I want it, you make an offer. To live or for an investment?
- 1:11:02Investments. Or for investment?
- 1:11:03People walk down to something. Yeah, all the time.
- 1:11:05I have one right now. I'm selling the person.
- 1:11:06Never looked at the house. I guess they trust you at this
- 1:11:09point if you're telling them it's a good deal and it's a good
- 1:11:11area and they can get the value. If they're not here, whatever it
- 1:11:14is. I'll never forget a friend of
- 1:11:15mine years ago when he put his ad in the Jewish press for his
- 1:11:17house for sale. He put six bedroom colonial, OK,
- 1:11:21it was a semi attached tiny Brooklyn home and in the
- 1:11:24basement there was like a 5 foot ceiling.
- 1:11:26But there, there were two tiny little bedrooms in there that he
- 1:11:28considered the 5th and the 6th bedroom for.
- 1:11:30So he advertised it at that. Today Chachi PT does it in the
- 1:11:32next level. Yeah, it's it's kind of scary
- 1:11:35what Chachi PT does. But then you got you got to
- 1:11:37verify, I mean you got to go down and you got to see what's
- 1:11:39up. You can't just no but the
- 1:11:40broker. Or work with the broker that you
- 1:11:41trust that's. Not right.
- 1:11:43You go ahead. I just got a call from someone
- 1:11:45else. There's a house that's for sale
- 1:11:46and shows a gorgeous pool and the person says they have a
- 1:11:49pool. I said no, it doesn't have a
- 1:11:50pool. I know the house, it has no
- 1:11:51pool. Yeah, Let me ask me if I want to
- 1:11:54buy a house. I call you and I say I'm in the
- 1:11:57market. I would like to buy a home.
- 1:11:58Here's my my budget. This is where the areas that I'm
- 1:12:02looking for, how long will you go through the mill with me and
- 1:12:07you'll continue to search for me and I'll say, Nope, I don't like
- 1:12:09this house. Nope.
- 1:12:10Is there a certain point we say, all right, listen, you're too
- 1:12:13picky, you're too selective. I can't deal with you anymore.
- 1:12:15Don't don't come back is. Your wife involved or it's just
- 1:12:17you? Either one me and my wife, or
- 1:12:19both of us, or either of us we. Talk to both and we see what's
- 1:12:22more important. And then that's part of the
- 1:12:25sales thing. I know before I know which house
- 1:12:27is good for you, before you know, you might say I don't like
- 1:12:30black curtains. You know, I can get rid of it.
- 1:12:34You don't need to have them. So I know how to do that.
- 1:12:36And we'll, we'll, we try to sell you a house.
- 1:12:38But have you had customers that took up too much of your time
- 1:12:40that at a certain point? You said sell them out before I
- 1:12:42know who's going to be a wasted time.
- 1:12:43And then what? And then what do you do?
- 1:12:44I don't start. You don't even start with what
- 1:12:46else, right? Because because you only make
- 1:12:48the money if you close in this. Time to go and take.
- 1:12:51People are not going to buy. There are.
- 1:12:52And something happened with the law recently in the past year, I
- 1:12:55think in terms of buyers and sellers, brokers.
- 1:12:57What can you explain that for a second?
- 1:12:59OK. So the commission's, there was
- 1:13:00a, there was a lawsuit and the border, the board of Realtors,
- 1:13:04they had to pay a tremendous fine like $418 million.
- 1:13:07And it's really whatever it is, bottom line is they change the
- 1:13:10way that we have to work. We have to sign up with buyers
- 1:13:13and the buyers are responsible for the Commission.
- 1:13:15So the buyers know upfront what we're getting paid, which is
- 1:13:18fine and they have to sign that this paper.
- 1:13:21Now that's only difference, but the deal goes the same way.
- 1:13:26The cell, it ends up coming out of the proceeds of the sale
- 1:13:29unless it's a cash deal and the buyer has the means to pay the
- 1:13:34Commission. Because what most people need is
- 1:13:36they need the Commission in the price because they're going
- 1:13:40they're getting a mortgage based on the whole price of the house.
- 1:13:42So if they're going to be paying the Commission separately, that
- 1:13:44means they're. Coming up.
- 1:13:45So how did this help? How did this help?
- 1:13:46It it didn't help anybody. It's just it's business as
- 1:13:49usual, just with a different language.
- 1:13:51They just changed the way the wording is.
- 1:13:53I see that's not what it was meant to.
- 1:13:55They thought it was going to be overhaul everything, but it
- 1:13:57didn't work. What's next for Naomi Stryker?
- 1:14:01You've mastered the field of of a local of residential real
- 1:14:06estate. What comes now?
- 1:14:07What's your are you aspiring to something beyond this or this is
- 1:14:10it for you? You're done.
- 1:14:11I want. To I want to, I want to furnish
- 1:14:13my house, I want to pay off everything and I have to marry
- 1:14:17you with two more kids. And then I want to just take it
- 1:14:20a little bit easier and pass it on to someone else.
- 1:14:23That's what I'm going to do. Retire one day.
- 1:14:27No, I'm not going to retire. I like what I'm doing.
- 1:14:29I'm telling you, I have a 12 year old to marry off.
- 1:14:31I can't retire. I can't ever live in an over 55
- 1:14:34community. Not for me.
- 1:14:37I need my house. Wow.
- 1:14:40OK. I mean, that's I'm hearing the
- 1:14:42song closing time, you know, like perfect, perfect timing for
- 1:14:46for an ending. You know, like I mentioned
- 1:14:49earlier, we end the podcast always asking of who would be a
- 1:14:51good guest in this chair. Is there someone that comes to
- 1:14:53mind that you would think that's, you know what this was,
- 1:14:55you know, what did you think of it?
- 1:14:57Do you have any questions for us and who would you pick?
- 1:14:59Well, I think you should talk to Orit Orit Fried, Orit and Yessi
- 1:15:02Fried. I said this before, I think
- 1:15:04they'll be a great guest for you.
- 1:15:05She's full. They're full of life and they're
- 1:15:08very. Good as a power couple.
- 1:15:10Very, very good. I think you.
- 1:15:11Yeah, he does the Pereche programs actually and and he is
- 1:15:14fantastic. You know who we're talking about
- 1:15:16here? Well, you know, that's.
- 1:15:17The free JoJo, he calls himself. I think I do actually, Yeah,
- 1:15:20Yeah, I think I now that you mentioned.
- 1:15:22The R Shlomo Gang and he's really helped, you know, build
- 1:15:26communities with what he does with the children's programs in
- 1:15:29the Pereche. Fascinating what he's been
- 1:15:31doing. So I think that's a great,
- 1:15:32that's a great choice. You have any questions for us?
- 1:15:35I just like what you do. So what do you do for a living?
- 1:15:37For real and you're having fun. What do we do for a living is
- 1:15:41she we sit down on a chair on camera and we talk, You know,
- 1:15:45we, we help build brands for manufacturers, distributors,
- 1:15:49service providers that want to get into the senior care
- 1:15:51communities. So that's one big part of what
- 1:15:53we do. And on the other side of the
- 1:15:55coin, we help manage the expenses for these facilities
- 1:15:58and help consult for them and how to lower their costs while
- 1:16:01raising the quality for the residents.
- 1:16:02And that's our passion, to give back to the senior community and
- 1:16:05to have have something to look forward to in case we have to go
- 1:16:08to one in the future. Hopefully you won't have to.
- 1:16:12No, absolutely. I sincerely appreciate you
- 1:16:14coming on today. It was nice learning about you
- 1:16:16and your background. I love that this is the first
- 1:16:19time you've done a podcast and I believe that your message is
- 1:16:21very strong in terms of mentorship and in general.
- 1:16:24And you know your story and powerful to learn about a
- 1:16:27religious woman who's, you know, raising a family from a family
- 1:16:33who's working and balancing life.
- 1:16:35It's amazing what you're doing, the mentorship that you're
- 1:16:36doing. God should give you the strength
- 1:16:38to keep mentoring people and guiding them to success.
- 1:16:41Thank you so much. It's really, really nice.
- 1:16:43Thank. You, yes, thank you very much
- 1:16:45for being here and please don't forget to like and subscribe.
- 1:16:47Thank you to the Prime Source production and thank you
- 1:16:49everybody. It's a Rep.
- 1:16:50Yes, yes, that was incredible.