Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 6-23-26 Hour 1 - Giannis traded to Miami/NBA shedding mode, Rox walk off Sox/Factors of winning
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- 0:18Speaker 1: So Yanis gets traded to Miami. It did kind of
- 0:23Speaker 1: feel like Miami was the spot. I said it yesterday.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Boston just for whatever reason, didn't make sense. I didn't
- 0:29Speaker 1: think they would put Jalen Brown on the table, and
- 0:31Speaker 1: it looks like they did. They got some explaining to do.
- 0:34Speaker 3: Jilen Brown must feeling a rag doll second time they
- 0:37Speaker 3: tried to trade him.
- 0:38Speaker 1: I swear of got Well, that's an offshoot conversation that
- 0:41Speaker 1: I do want to have because that's that's an odd one.
- 0:44Speaker 1: But yanis going to Miami after thirteen months essentially of
- 0:51Speaker 1: playing this. I love Milwaukee. I don't want to leave Milwaukee.
- 0:57Speaker 1: But in doing that over and overy, so this is
- 1:01Speaker 1: the first huge, gigantic domino to fall be the biggest
- 1:04Speaker 1: nominoe of the offseason. But happening before the draft, I'm
- 1:09Speaker 1: sure a bunch more moves are going to be made.
- 1:10Speaker 1: What gets lost in the shuffle yesterday as Minnesota trades
- 1:13Speaker 1: Julius Randall in their first round pick, to move back
- 1:15Speaker 1: five spots to clear up cap space. Good news Io Dessunmo.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Good news for the Nuggets prospects of keeping Peyton Watson.
- 1:23Speaker 3: By the way, it just eliminates two teams with cap
- 1:25Speaker 3: space from the bidding.
- 1:28Speaker 1: So here's what I want to ask you regarding Giannis.
- 1:33Speaker 1: It's hard when you're in a market like Milwaukee or
- 1:37Speaker 1: Denver and you find an all time kind of player
- 1:42Speaker 1: who is still in the prime of his career, who
- 1:45Speaker 1: does this to you? This happened once for the Nuggets.
- 1:48Speaker 1: It happened with Carmelo. Same thing. I want to leave,
- 1:52Speaker 1: go to a bigger market. I don't trust this team
- 1:54Speaker 1: to build a winner anymore. I want maybe a little
- 1:57Speaker 1: bit more of a spotlight whatever. There's no real recourse
- 2:03Speaker 1: for you. You aren't gonna be a big player in
- 2:07Speaker 1: free agency. You aren't gonna acquire a talent like the
- 2:10Speaker 1: stuff that Miami or New York or LA or Boston
- 2:13Speaker 1: gets to do. Whenever there's a big fish out there,
- 2:16Speaker 1: you're always in it. You're always like, oh, well, we
- 2:19Speaker 1: can just build our team that way. Giannis is available,
- 2:21Speaker 1: let's do that. That's not on the table for Milwaukee.
- 2:24Speaker 1: Part of the reason the Bucks owner said he pushed
- 2:30Speaker 1: hard from the Miami trade. Why he was nervous if
- 2:35Speaker 1: they traded for Jalen Brown in a year when his
- 2:37Speaker 1: contracts up, he wouldn't want back. Why wouldn't he be nervous.
- 2:41Speaker 1: This has happened to them with Giannis and Abdom, with
- 2:43Speaker 1: Miles Turner. It happened with a bunch of different guys.
- 2:45Speaker 3: When did Jimmy Haslin become involved with the Bucks? I
- 2:50Speaker 3: don't remember that activity, I do. I don't remember that.
- 2:56Speaker 3: I thought the Bucks were always owned by that guy
- 2:58Speaker 3: who sells faucets.
- 3:00Speaker 1: So he's a minority senator guy. He's got twenty five
- 3:03Speaker 1: percent stake in the team. He did that in twenty
- 3:06Speaker 1: twenty three. But yeah, so he was sort of the
- 3:12Speaker 1: driving force for the decision to go to Miami. Is
- 3:18Speaker 1: Giannis remembered in the same way in Milwaukee like Melow
- 3:21Speaker 1: was here? Uh no, because he won a championship. Sure,
- 3:26Speaker 1: but as far as fan but hang on, But for
- 3:28Speaker 1: fans feelings towards him now an all time player who
- 3:31Speaker 1: left in the prime of his career. He handled it
- 3:33Speaker 1: better than Melow? Did you think and now I have nothing? Yeah?
- 3:38Speaker 1: He did? You don't think that all of this. I
- 3:42Speaker 1: love it here, but I but but but that stuff.
- 3:45Speaker 3: I was here when the Melow thing happened. Who's been
- 3:47Speaker 3: the biggest mellow supporter here? I mean, I want, I
- 3:50Speaker 3: want them to, but I.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Just don't know how Milwaukee fans feel today, and they're
- 3:55Speaker 1: not going to be happy. But where's that team going.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Let's see, let's say young honest stays in Milwaukee. Where
- 4:02Speaker 1: they going? I mean, I I think that you would
- 4:06Speaker 1: think as a Bucks fan, you're in the Eastern Conference,
- 4:08Speaker 1: is one of the best players in the league. You
- 4:10Speaker 1: always got a shot.
- 4:11Speaker 3: That team needed a retooling. I mean you could just
- 4:13Speaker 3: feel it. You sensed it, you saw it. His heart
- 4:17Speaker 3: wasn't in it there. They couldn't get the role pieces
- 4:20Speaker 3: to make it work. I think it's best for Milwaukee
- 4:23Speaker 3: just to start over. Pull in Oklahoma City, get rid
- 4:26Speaker 3: of him, get him out. He was often injured in
- 4:29Speaker 3: the last couple of years.
- 4:30Speaker 4: He was always hurt.
- 4:31Speaker 1: That's true.
- 4:32Speaker 3: So I'll be honest with you. If I'm a Milwaukee fan,
- 4:35Speaker 3: it's a new day, it's a new hope. Open your eyes,
- 4:38Speaker 3: see what else you can find out there, and let's go.
- 4:40Speaker 3: You weren't going to win anything with the honest coming back,
- 4:45Speaker 3: I don't know if I buy that I think you'd
- 4:47Speaker 3: have a shot.
- 4:47Speaker 1: I don't.
- 4:48Speaker 4: I don't think.
- 4:48Speaker 1: I don't think that they would win. I would never
- 4:51Speaker 1: pick them to win.
- 4:52Speaker 3: That was not a that was not a championship contending team,
- 4:55Speaker 3: not even close.
- 4:56Speaker 1: But even the question is, could it have been couple
- 5:00Speaker 1: of years.
- 5:00Speaker 3: You'd have to be perfect. I don't know if they
- 5:02Speaker 3: I mean, it's just it doesn't work there. It hasn't
- 5:06Speaker 3: worked there since they won it. And and I'm hopeful
- 5:08Speaker 3: that the Nuggets don't go down the same road. The
- 5:11Speaker 3: difference with the Nuggets, the Nuggets Superstar isn't making noise
- 5:15Speaker 3: about leaving. Yannis has been making noise about trades, coaches.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Think about all the moves Milwaukee's made, the coaches they've fired,
- 5:23Speaker 3: the pieces they've replaced, all because Janni's trade.
- 5:28Speaker 1: Dame gets hurt, Dame goes back to Portland.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Yeah, every move they've made over the last ten years
- 5:33Speaker 3: has Yannis involved in it somehow.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Yeah, just get them out, get them out, start over.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I think I know you'd feel if you're a Milwaukee fan.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Mo, I would feel pretty betrayed. Well, I don't I'm
- 5:47Speaker 2: not betrayed, not the word I would feel. This has
- 5:50Speaker 2: been coming for some time and now it's just the
- 5:52Speaker 2: culmination of it. All. That's true, But you are losing
- 5:57Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee Bucks. You know, he's a generational player
- 6:02Speaker 2: who brought a championship and he's gone, and you, if
- 6:06Speaker 2: you're in Milwaukee, you're probably not going to recapture that
- 6:08Speaker 2: in your lifetime.
- 6:10Speaker 1: You know, it ticked me off.
- 6:11Speaker 3: You mentioned Carmelo while describing the situation there, and I've
- 6:16Speaker 3: been team mellow Nuggets, reuniting, making peace.
- 6:21Speaker 1: I've been pushing that more than anybody.
- 6:24Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna lie to you the side of
- 6:26Speaker 3: Carmelo Anthony at the Knicks parade, acting as if he's
- 6:30Speaker 3: a player on the team now and pushing that whole
- 6:36Speaker 3: narrative when three years earlier, his original team, the team
- 6:41Speaker 3: in which he made a career of himself, won a
- 6:44Speaker 3: championship with the parade and he was nowhere.
- 6:46Speaker 1: To be found.
- 6:47Speaker 4: That pisses me off. Welcome to the club.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is the least surprising thing you could
- 6:55Speaker 1: have said.
- 6:55Speaker 3: I know, but when I saw the two of them
- 6:58Speaker 3: side by side, Yeah yeah.
- 7:01Speaker 1: You know where the loyalties Yeah, obviously, I've said it forever.
- 7:05Speaker 1: He just wants to be liked by everybody. But here's the.
- 7:08Speaker 3: Deal, though, Where was he at his best? Where did
- 7:11Speaker 3: he make his hay Where in Denver?
- 7:15Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's what happened. The Bucks traded the package
- 7:23Speaker 1: was from Boston Jalen Brown in two first round. Jalen
- 7:27Speaker 1: Brown is obviously one of the best players in the league.
- 7:30Speaker 1: That would have been a better at least initial burst
- 7:33Speaker 1: to the lineup, but instead they go with Miami where
- 7:36Speaker 1: they get Tyler hero khalil Ware, Jimi Jaquez, Kasparis Yakachonas,
- 7:43Speaker 1: three first round picks, one pick swap, and a second rounder.
- 7:46Speaker 1: It's a gigantic package given away by Miami, who they
- 7:50Speaker 1: don't care because Miami's trying to win every year. Pat Riley,
- 7:53Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how many more years pat
- 7:55Speaker 1: Riley's got in charge of the Heat. I mean, how
- 7:56Speaker 1: old is he. He's got to be in his eighties,
- 7:58Speaker 1: doesn't he to be close? Pat Riley is eighty one,
- 8:05Speaker 1: so he's he's I don't know how many more years
- 8:09Speaker 1: he's got in charge of that thing. Being in his eighties,
- 8:12Speaker 1: he's probably, like I would like to win again please,
- 8:14Speaker 1: Plus it's the prospect of getting honest, and you would
- 8:17Speaker 1: take that. Miami.
- 8:20Speaker 3: Miami's making a financial run here, big Greek community in Miami.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Is good, like you know.
- 8:28Speaker 3: But Giannis is an MVY, multi time MVP. I maybe
- 8:34Speaker 3: maybe that's my approach here. I am not on the
- 8:37Speaker 3: Yannis train like so many people are.
- 8:40Speaker 1: He can't shoot. He's never been able to shoot. He
- 8:43Speaker 1: won a championship not shooting, I know, but it took
- 8:46Speaker 1: a lot to win that championship. Yeah, like when people
- 8:52Speaker 1: compare Yannis to the greats today, Jannis versus Joker Yannis,
- 8:57Speaker 1: I get it. Yiannis.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Defensively, Giannis is a free Giannis can do all this
- 9:01Speaker 3: stuff around the rim. You know what, if I'm guarding Giannis,
- 9:05Speaker 3: I'm taking eight feet saying go ahead.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Yeah, but then he'll get He'll get that running start
- 9:09Speaker 1: at the rim and just dunk over. Build a wall.
- 9:12Speaker 1: That's how you stop him. Build a wall. He can't shoot.
- 9:14Speaker 3: I've never been fascinated by Janis Attenu.
- 9:23Speaker 1: I mean, look, I I've never been disagree with you. Well,
- 9:26Speaker 1: that's fine, we can disagree. He ever, he can't shoot,
- 9:29Speaker 1: and he averages thirty a year like every single year.
- 9:32Speaker 4: Can't shoot, I got too.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Can't shoot, I mean can't shoot the basketball, yes, but
- 9:38Speaker 1: he still gets thirty. Okay, Shack couldn't shoot, got thirty.
- 9:42Speaker 3: When the playoffs come around, when the new NBA and
- 9:45Speaker 3: the way it's officiated now in today's game. And remember
- 9:50Speaker 3: he relies solely on his athleticism, that's true. Who's been
- 9:54Speaker 3: injured more than anybody lately, especially in the playoffs.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Yiannis, Yep, no, I'm out. Oh well, I think it's
- 10:02Speaker 1: interesting that you put him in with you know, him
- 10:05Speaker 1: and Bam is a really interesting lineup of two really athletic,
- 10:08Speaker 1: tall guys, especially on the defensive side. I think that's
- 10:11Speaker 1: what Miami's looking more at. We're just gonna be really
- 10:13Speaker 1: good on defense and then hope we outscore you sort
- 10:16Speaker 1: of thing. But I think the offshoot conversation, which is
- 10:22Speaker 1: how you're gonna look at Jalen Brown in Boston today,
- 10:25Speaker 1: I don't know how you're gonna look at him in
- 10:27Speaker 1: the face. Like Jalen Brown was the Finals MVP when
- 10:32Speaker 1: they won. Jalen Brown carried the team when Jason Tatum was.
- 10:35Speaker 3: Exactly he carried them for three months when Tatum was
- 10:38Speaker 3: out speaking.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Of averaging thirty points a night. He did that. This
- 10:42Speaker 1: year's fourth in the league in scoring. Yeah, and here's
- 10:46Speaker 1: the translation that they just said. Maybe it's not that bad.
- 10:50Speaker 1: When you say, well, we think Giannis is better than you,
- 10:54Speaker 1: maybe that's something you could stomach. I think that Jayleen
- 10:58Speaker 1: Jalen Brown can't stuck like this one. I think he
- 11:02Speaker 1: thinks he's better than Tatum.
- 11:03Speaker 3: Well he probably does. I mean they have weird egos.
- 11:06Speaker 3: But I'll say this, if you're going to trade away
- 11:10Speaker 3: a core piece of your team, you best not miss.
- 11:13Speaker 3: Right twice, you best not miss because it could cause issues.
- 11:17Speaker 3: I think Boston is a year ahead of Denver in
- 11:21Speaker 3: the deconstruct So Boston wins a championship, they automatically slash salary,
- 11:27Speaker 3: trade away players. Then the next year they're like, well,
- 11:30Speaker 3: this is core maybe not what we want.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Let's trade a core piece. Yeah, And that's where they are.
- 11:37Speaker 3: What I'm saying is if the Nuggets go in that direction,
- 11:40Speaker 3: if by the end of tonight a core piece is traded,
- 11:43Speaker 3: you best not miss.
- 11:45Speaker 4: Well.
- 11:45Speaker 1: Think about this, mos. What if the Avs when they
- 11:47Speaker 1: traded Miko, tried to trade Miko and it didn't work,
- 11:51Speaker 1: and then it became public knowledge, and then he went
- 11:53Speaker 1: back to the locker room. Then they tried and then
- 11:57Speaker 1: they tried to trade him again.
- 11:59Speaker 4: You got then got away.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how that's reconcilable. I really don't. Oh,
- 12:08Speaker 1: I gets. Do you give Boston a phone call and
- 12:13Speaker 1: be like, how unhappy is he?
- 12:15Speaker 4: Right?
- 12:15Speaker 1: Maybe we could shake some things up. We got a
- 12:18Speaker 1: guy who's an All NBA player like May. I don't know.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I don't know either, because the draft to night. You
- 12:24Speaker 1: said it yesterday, Vic, but it's so true. It's gonna
- 12:27Speaker 1: tell you a lot about what direction the Nuggets are taking.
- 12:31Speaker 1: And I don't think I'm expecting anything to totally blow
- 12:33Speaker 1: me away tonight. But I mean, if they traded Ag tonight,
- 12:39Speaker 1: would you be blown away? I wouldn't be surprised by
- 12:43Speaker 1: anything the Nuggets do today.
- 12:46Speaker 2: I would be blown away because his injury history, with
- 12:50Speaker 2: what he's making, why is that attractive to another team?
- 12:54Speaker 4: I mean, I love the guy.
- 12:55Speaker 2: I wanted to be a Nugget for the rest of
- 12:56Speaker 2: his career, but they need him to play, So yeah,
- 12:59Speaker 2: I guess I would be a little bit, a little
- 13:01Speaker 2: bit surprised.
- 13:03Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to Adam Mars by the way at
- 13:05Speaker 1: nine o'clock get his breakdown what he thinks happened.
- 13:07Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see where the Nuggets go tonight,
- 13:10Speaker 3: what they plan on doing. And I think tonight the
- 13:14Speaker 3: action they take in this draft, and I'll present this
- 13:16Speaker 3: question to Adam will indicate their plans on Peyton Watson,
- 13:22Speaker 3: and again good news.
- 13:24Speaker 1: I think Peyton Watson.
- 13:26Speaker 3: A couple of the teams with cap space Chicago and
- 13:29Speaker 3: Brooklyn took on more cap by acquiring Julius Randall and
- 13:33Speaker 3: Nick Claxton, eating into their cap number. So maybe those
- 13:38Speaker 3: teams may may not be as high on bidding for
- 13:41Speaker 3: Peyton Watson.
- 13:42Speaker 1: We shall see.
- 13:43Speaker 3: I'm curious to see where Adam thinks that number will
- 13:46Speaker 3: be for Peyton Watson. If you guys had to guess
- 13:48Speaker 3: right now, you just saw Io de Sumnu re sign
- 13:52Speaker 3: with Minnesota five years, one hundred and twelve million. Yeah,
- 13:57Speaker 3: so that's about brown money, right A. Bob Park, Yeah,
- 14:03Speaker 3: same area. What do you think the number will be
- 14:07Speaker 3: for Peyton Watson?
- 14:10Speaker 4: I think right there.
- 14:12Speaker 1: I think right in there. He doesn't have a body
- 14:15Speaker 1: of work to I think justify more than that. Again,
- 14:19Speaker 1: you're kind of judging Peyton Watson off of a month
- 14:21Speaker 1: and a half of basketball in which he really blossomed
- 14:25Speaker 1: in his game, grew, and then he got hurt. I
- 14:27Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be much more than that.
- 14:29Speaker 3: The the Nuggets tonight can either take that twenty sixth
- 14:33Speaker 3: pick add another rosters, you know, another player on the
- 14:36Speaker 3: roster that they can.
- 14:37Speaker 1: Manage salary wise, sure salary, or they.
- 14:40Speaker 3: Can use that twenty sixth pick to trade away a
- 14:43Speaker 3: contract they don't find satisfactory anymore.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Well, that's what Minnesota did with Randall. They packaged Randall
- 14:51Speaker 1: in a first round pick to move back five spots. Yep,
- 14:54Speaker 1: that's what they did.
- 14:55Speaker 3: But they did so with the notion that they're going
- 14:57Speaker 3: to re sign Ioh and then have extra money to
- 15:00Speaker 3: I had some other players they didn't like the makeup
- 15:01Speaker 3: of their team. Yeah, they're gonna move nas Reed to
- 15:04Speaker 3: the starting lineup, which I.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Would accept that. Yeah, I like nas That's what they're
- 15:09Speaker 1: gonna do. But a lot to discuss with this sort
- 15:11Speaker 1: of the ripple effects of this honest trade heading into
- 15:14Speaker 1: the draft tonight. You can listen to us anywhere on
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- 15:23Speaker 1: and we'll just throw it out there. Might as well
- 15:26Speaker 1: just have the discussion for discussion sake. Let's say Jalen
- 15:29Speaker 1: Brown's like, screw this. I hate Boston. They've now tried
- 15:32Speaker 1: to trade me twice. They don't see my value. I
- 15:34Speaker 1: want out Jamal for Jalen. Would you do it? One
- 15:37Speaker 1: year rental for Jalen Brown? So well, unless you get
- 15:42Speaker 1: some assurance that he's gonna sign something, I mean, they
- 15:44Speaker 1: may not be a bad thing either.
- 15:46Speaker 2: Well, if you're talking about if you're talking about getting
- 15:50Speaker 2: flexibility for him, being gone in one year, would.
- 15:53Speaker 1: Give you flex unless he crushes it and then you're like, hey,
- 15:56Speaker 1: let's do this exactly. You got a year to find out.
- 15:58Speaker 1: But if I if I offered that to you right now,
- 16:00Speaker 1: I have to say yes. The next thirty seconds, I'd
- 16:02Speaker 1: say yes.
- 16:03Speaker 4: You know.
- 16:03Speaker 3: I think the mistake that the Nuggets have made, in
- 16:06Speaker 3: my humble opinion, is married players contracts earlier than they
- 16:13Speaker 3: should have.
- 16:15Speaker 1: Part of that is trying to get ahead of the curve.
- 16:19Speaker 1: And I can understand the thought process too. You know,
- 16:23Speaker 1: it's like in football the assign a guy two years
- 16:25Speaker 1: before his contracts up to try and jump ahead of
- 16:27Speaker 1: the other signings. Like maybe, but you better not miss.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Yeah that's the problem. But I mean, here's what's weird.
- 16:37Speaker 1: People say, poor, you did it too early. You want
- 16:39Speaker 1: a championship off that contract? Jamal want a championship off
- 16:44Speaker 1: the contract. In the cases of guys like Christian Brown,
- 16:47Speaker 1: that's I have a bigger problem to be perfect.
- 16:50Speaker 3: I'm not saying listen, teams are not perfect Oklahoma City.
- 16:56Speaker 3: I mean you talk about perfect. That team right now
- 16:59Speaker 3: is in shedding mode.
- 17:01Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:02Speaker 3: By the way, I saw this stat you want to
- 17:04Speaker 3: hear something crazy, please mosh.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Hold on to your two pay for this one, all right,
- 17:10Speaker 1: hold on to your tups.
- 17:14Speaker 3: Until twenty and thirty, which is three and a half
- 17:17Speaker 3: years away. The Denver Nuggets have three first round picks,
- 17:23Speaker 3: zero second round picks.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Verify the second round.
- 17:27Speaker 4: By the way, from the last thing year is I
- 17:29Speaker 4: think I just made a lot too easy.
- 17:30Speaker 3: Oklahoma City during that same period has ten first round
- 17:33Speaker 3: picks and fifteen second round picks.
- 17:35Speaker 4: Insane.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Wow, did you just hear what I said?
- 17:41Speaker 2: I heard what you said, don't I don't know how
- 17:43Speaker 2: to I don't know how to comprehend that.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Total of twenty five picks for OKC, the Nuggets have three.
- 17:51Speaker 4: I don't know how to comprehend that.
- 17:52Speaker 1: So they have a second round pick this year, yes,
- 17:55Speaker 1: number forty nine. They don't have another one in twenty
- 17:59Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty thirty two. That's unreal to me. Yeah,
- 18:05Speaker 1: assets are just gone.
- 18:08Speaker 3: So you are going to have to get assets back somehow,
- 18:12Speaker 3: big time.
- 18:13Speaker 1: And the only way to do that MOS.
- 18:15Speaker 4: Is to shed a bigot.
- 18:16Speaker 1: That's it.
- 18:17Speaker 4: That's it. That's the only way you can do it.
- 18:18Speaker 2: It's if somebody, look, I don't want to trade a
- 18:21Speaker 2: g that's the only way. I don't really want to
- 18:23Speaker 2: trade Jamal to either. But you have no other assets.
- 18:25Speaker 2: You have no flexibility to do anything. You can't build
- 18:28Speaker 2: for the future. You can't build young. You have to
- 18:30Speaker 2: round out.
- 18:30Speaker 3: Your roster, right, so everybody talks about how the Nuggets
- 18:34Speaker 3: are going to do moving forward. You have to finish
- 18:36Speaker 3: up a roster. You got to have fourteen to fifteen players.
- 18:39Speaker 4: You have to crazy.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Yeah, you got nothing. That's that's nuts.
- 18:48Speaker 3: So that's why every dollar counts That's why, you know,
- 18:53Speaker 3: would you be surprised tonight if the Nuggets traded away
- 18:56Speaker 3: the number twenty six overall pick for two future picks?
- 19:00Speaker 4: No, I would not be surprised at all. But again, how.
- 19:04Speaker 1: Or a future something attached with a Zeke Najy. Yeah, no,
- 19:09Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised.
- 19:10Speaker 4: But again we're getting into this. Are you allowed to
- 19:12Speaker 4: trade it? Because because last year's is gone, I don't.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Get me started on rules. There's the rule book right
- 19:20Speaker 1: behind you, so I don't think it's in there. Here's
- 19:26Speaker 1: what's really difficult. You don't want to quote unquote waste
- 19:36Speaker 1: any years right now? I mean yokich is how old
- 19:40Speaker 1: is he? Thirty one? You don't want to waste any
- 19:44Speaker 1: years in which he's still in his prime. But you
- 19:47Speaker 1: can also understand a gap year, right, I can understand it.
- 19:51Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to stomach.
- 19:53Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it, man, I went down that rabbit
- 19:56Speaker 3: hole last night, guys where you start looking at prospects,
- 20:00Speaker 3: guys that the Nuggets can shoot for in the twenties,
- 20:03Speaker 3: like twenty six.
- 20:04Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, when you're looking at highlight.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Clips of players, all they show is the good stuff.
- 20:09Speaker 3: They don't show the mistakes. They show the good stuff
- 20:11Speaker 3: and you become blind to players who have holes and
- 20:16Speaker 3: you just see what they can do. Well, my goodness,
- 20:19Speaker 3: there's some players in this draft. Boys, there's some guys
- 20:22Speaker 3: in this draft that I fell in love with just
- 20:23Speaker 3: looking at video.
- 20:25Speaker 1: I mean, I can name you some names.
- 20:29Speaker 3: That big man for Saint John's whose last name I
- 20:34Speaker 3: can't pronounce. Dalen Swain, the small forward for Texas. I
- 20:38Speaker 3: was looking some of his highlights last night. That dude
- 20:41Speaker 3: is an athlete. He's projected to go in the twenties.
- 20:45Speaker 3: He's a guy that if the Nuggets ended up with him,
- 20:47Speaker 3: I'd be like, Wow, that's a great draft. There are
- 20:51Speaker 3: a couple guys that, again may end up in their laps,
- 20:55Speaker 3: But do you take the chance to wait around at
- 20:58Speaker 3: twenty six and if you don't get him at twenty six,
- 21:01Speaker 3: then you're stuck with another what Tyler Lyden.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Well, they've they've done this before. To be fair. Picked
- 21:13Speaker 1: in the late twenties found guys. Christian Brown was a guy.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Christian Brown won everything of the contract. Now, he helped
- 21:18Speaker 1: you win a title and he was a big force
- 21:20Speaker 1: off the bench. Hayton Watson Peyton Watson is somebody that Look,
- 21:23Speaker 1: if you're asking me, I think is the number one
- 21:26Speaker 1: priority to keep all off season.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Put it this way, if you put Peyton Watson in
- 21:31Speaker 3: this draft class, he'd be a top five.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Pick, no question. Yeah, because he's still what twenty two,
- 21:38Speaker 1: right or what twenty two, twenty three, twenty three, twenty three.
- 21:42Speaker 1: But he is everything that we're asking the Nuggets to
- 21:45Speaker 1: go out and acquire a lengthy, athletic, young, defensive minded
- 21:52Speaker 1: guy with some offensive capability. You have him like Vick,
- 21:56Speaker 1: you asked me this question during the break about somebody else,
- 21:58Speaker 1: We'll ask about Peyton Watson assummough who the t Wolves
- 22:02Speaker 1: just signed a five year, one hundred and twelve million
- 22:04Speaker 1: dollars contract. He dropped forty three in a playoff game.
- 22:07Speaker 1: Could you see Peyton Watson doing that? Because I could, Yes,
- 22:10Speaker 1: I could see hundred. I came a playoff game. It's
- 22:12Speaker 1: three point shots getting better and better. Yeah.
- 22:15Speaker 3: I saw him in the month of January, have a
- 22:17Speaker 3: couple of games where he hit thirty easily.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 22:19Speaker 2: But is Doron Holmes then just a just a wasted
- 22:21Speaker 2: pick at twenty two over Yeah.
- 22:23Speaker 1: It's funny because everybody.
- 22:23Speaker 2: I mean, because what what is you have that guy
- 22:26Speaker 2: that you're pining for right now?
- 22:28Speaker 4: Va? In terms of man I like this guy. Yeah,
- 22:30Speaker 4: that's a great question you had in the twenties.
- 22:32Speaker 2: You know, he's six', nine he's two twenty, five he
- 22:35Speaker 2: can blah blah blah blah blah blah.
- 22:37Speaker 4: Blah well we don't, Know jack SQUAT i.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Am i'm at a loss for Why Deron holmes in
- 22:44Speaker 3: his rookie season because he didn't play his first?
- 22:46Speaker 1: Season, right all, right so last year was his rookie.
- 22:48Speaker 1: Season i'm at.
- 22:50Speaker 3: A loss at why he could not contribute, more given
- 22:54Speaker 3: that that's the exact position they needed With ag out
- 22:59Speaker 3: for most of the. Year they needed another big and
- 23:03Speaker 3: he didn't play.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Much AND i.
- 23:06Speaker 3: Obviously there's a reason he didn't play. Much can he
- 23:11Speaker 3: can he develop his game enough this? Offseason and why
- 23:15Speaker 3: do you have tape all over your?
- 23:17Speaker 1: Car? Thing BECAUSE i can't find my spare key and
- 23:19Speaker 1: this one's. Busted but the, show the key has to
- 23:22Speaker 1: stay together for the car to, work so it kept falling.
- 23:25Speaker 1: APART i was tired of. It you ever been driving
- 23:28Speaker 1: and your key comes? Apart it, says no key, Detected
- 23:30Speaker 1: and you think your car is gonna blow. UP i
- 23:32Speaker 1: don't want that to. Happen that's a good tape. Job thank,
- 23:35Speaker 1: you thank you very.
- 23:36Speaker 4: Much actually it's very poor.
- 23:39Speaker 1: Tear actually it looks like a fifth. GRADER i, mean
- 23:41Speaker 1: but it's.
- 23:41Speaker 4: Secure you did. It if the job was just to secure,
- 23:44Speaker 4: it you did a good.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Time to make sure my car. Starts because we don't
- 23:47Speaker 1: have keys. Anymore the aesthetics of it get me started
- 23:50Speaker 1: on key. FOBS i just want to put my key
- 23:54Speaker 1: in the car and turn the ignition. On that's WHAT i.
- 23:57Speaker 4: Want my daughter comes home from.
- 23:58Speaker 2: College she, says, yeah my key fob hasn't worked FOR.
- 24:06Speaker 4: I don't, know nine. Months put the, key you.
- 24:09Speaker 2: Know put the key in the door and all you know,
- 24:11Speaker 2: that that kind of, thing the old fashioned.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Way, wait so she's got a fob an a.
- 24:15Speaker 4: Key, yeah that is.
- 24:17Speaker 2: Correct it's a old, toyotakay nobody. Deal so she's been
- 24:21Speaker 2: using the, key.
- 24:23Speaker 4: Like go to the. STORE i had to spare a
- 24:25Speaker 4: fob at.
- 24:26Speaker 2: Home go to the store and get a couple of
- 24:29Speaker 2: twenty two oh one six batteries changing big.
- 24:33Speaker 4: Works oh, yay it's a little. Battery it's just a little.
- 24:39Speaker 1: Battery it's the annoying batteries, though the circle ones they flat.
- 24:44Speaker 4: Ones and you can't get them out of the packaging
- 24:46Speaker 4: because hard.
- 24:47Speaker 1: Impossible first of, all it's hard to open the.
- 24:49Speaker 4: Key that, too the.
- 24:51Speaker 3: Fob, YES i could, talk good, job all, Right so
- 24:53Speaker 3: tonight rank these in order of what you think would. Happen, READY,
- 24:59Speaker 3: a The nuggets stay at twenty, six make a, selection
- 25:04Speaker 3: and then make their selection in the second.
- 25:05Speaker 1: ROUND i think second.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Round their pick is forty. Nine, Okay so they make
- 25:10Speaker 3: two picks, tonight first and. Second That's OPTION.
- 25:12Speaker 1: A just go buy the.
- 25:14Speaker 3: Script OPTION b trade away twenty six and their second
- 25:21Speaker 3: round pick and move up in the draft then maybe
- 25:25Speaker 3: like seventeen fifteen.
- 25:26Speaker 4: Day by the, way they are allowed to trade.
- 25:28Speaker 1: It option three.
- 25:32Speaker 3: Attach a Current did you go FROM b to? THREE i,
- 25:35Speaker 3: did BECAUSE i forgot IF i was doing letters or.
- 25:37Speaker 3: Numbers WAS i doing?
- 25:38Speaker 1: LETTERS i honestly don't remember. ANYMORE i think you're doing.
- 25:42Speaker 4: Letters let's stick with, letters.
- 25:43Speaker 3: Okay OPTION c trade away the twenty sixth, pick attach
- 25:48Speaker 3: a current player whose contract you don't want, anymore and
- 25:53Speaker 3: basically swap picks or move out of the draft.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Altogether do. That That's OPTION.
- 25:58Speaker 3: CEE c is more likely to make OPTION dh four
- 26:03Speaker 3: Trade Jamal murray.
- 26:07Speaker 4: OPTION e.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Trade Hold on should have been writing these. Down there's
- 26:12Speaker 1: somebody options.
- 26:13Speaker 3: OPTION e, Trade Aaron, gordon OPTION f, Trade Cam johnson
- 26:22Speaker 3: OPTION g.
- 26:24Speaker 1: Trade Christian brown attacked that pick.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Trade all, right so you got, stop, yes please, stop.
- 26:33Speaker 1: He's still going.
- 26:33Speaker 4: Stop oh my, god he's.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Still going for those still going? Home how many options
- 26:38Speaker 1: DID i give you? To the most likely OPTION i
- 26:40Speaker 1: think is they're going to package twenty six with a
- 26:42Speaker 1: pick and probably move.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Back that would be which which letter is that in
- 26:46Speaker 3: THE i think that WAS. C, YEAH i THINK c
- 26:48Speaker 3: is the note takers ON D e OR. F i'm
- 26:51Speaker 3: not going down the rest of the. LIST i think
- 26:53Speaker 3: that one's the most. Option least likely Is jamal gets traded.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Tonight that's not going to happen.
- 26:58Speaker 1: TONIGHT i don't think why, not BECAUSE i think that
- 27:02Speaker 1: would take a lot. MORE i just think it would
- 27:08Speaker 1: Take it wouldn't be, like oh my, god they just Traded.
- 27:12Speaker 1: JAMAL i think you'd hear like a, Whisper.
- 27:14Speaker 3: Yeah you hear, something or maybe they're really good to keeping,
- 27:17Speaker 3: things you, know close to the chest and maybe close
- 27:19Speaker 3: to the.
- 27:19Speaker 1: Vest but we heard the rumors about ag And Cam johnson.
- 27:22Speaker 1: ALREADY i mean we've heard that so, Anyway, uh those
- 27:26Speaker 1: are all on the. Table we'll talk more about that
- 27:27Speaker 1: With adamars. Later another prime example last, night it's in
- 27:33Speaker 1: my basement checking out some. Rocks The Red sox are
- 27:39Speaker 1: doing what The Red sox, do which is have really
- 27:41Speaker 1: good pitching and they can't. Hit you enter the Ninth
- 27:45Speaker 1: i'm sorry you enter the seventh down two to. Nothing
- 27:50Speaker 1: The rockies have a chance to tie the, game get
- 27:53Speaker 1: a run on the. Board in the eighth, inning two
- 27:56Speaker 1: guys end up on third base at the same time
- 27:58Speaker 1: there's one base running. Under they then Send Willie castro
- 28:03Speaker 1: home after another bass. Hit he gets thrown out the.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Plate two straight, plays two straight. Hits he came away with.
- 28:10Speaker 1: Nothing you're, like oh, boy you just blew the. Game
- 28:14Speaker 1: and then in the ninth, inning base, hit bass, hit.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Mos you'll love. This Cole carrig throws a little sack
- 28:22Speaker 1: butt down the third, base but he's so fast he
- 28:24Speaker 1: beats it.
- 28:25Speaker 4: Out good.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Stuff now there was a little hesitation because the second
- 28:28Speaker 1: baseman didn't cover in. Time all that different, Stuff but
- 28:31Speaker 1: now that makes it three straight hits to start the
- 28:33Speaker 1: ninth and then my, Boy jake, McCarthy.
- 28:39Speaker 5: Ja this is gonna tie it. Up he's gonna eight
- 28:56Speaker 5: straight hits between the eighth and the.
- 28:59Speaker 1: Nine so That's ROCKY'S tv on the. Call eight straight
- 29:06Speaker 1: hits in the eighth and the. Ninth is a weird
- 29:08Speaker 1: way to put. It but was That, Chapman, Yes Arldas.
- 29:13Speaker 1: Chapman jake. McCarthy by the, way every time that guy
- 29:17Speaker 1: gets in a clutch, situation he makes something. Happen he's
- 29:20Speaker 1: there's something about. It if you guys remember last year
- 29:22Speaker 1: there was A jake in the. Outfield remember who it,
- 29:23Speaker 1: Was Jake cave that became a quick fan. Favorite that
- 29:27Speaker 1: was the guy who got here and said it is
- 29:29Speaker 1: what it is is about going over to The. ROCKS
- 29:33Speaker 1: i mentioned this to you guys. Before there's a big
- 29:35Speaker 1: question of how they handled the outfield moving forward And,
- 29:38Speaker 1: Bretton doyle And Jordan beck come. Back they aren't close
- 29:40Speaker 1: yet from. Injury but what do you do in the?
- 29:42Speaker 1: Outfield you got, McCarthy you Got Cole, Carrig moniac's now,
- 29:45Speaker 1: Healthy Tyler freeman's, Playing, Doyle beck's still on the. Bench
- 29:49Speaker 1: you got a number of different guys that you're trying
- 29:51Speaker 1: to shuffle The johnston's trying.
- 29:53Speaker 3: To get keep the, younger cheaper guys and move away
- 29:56Speaker 3: from the ones that are gonna cost. Money that's as
- 29:58Speaker 3: simple solution to. Me, Well beck, In, Brenton doyle or
- 30:01Speaker 3: young everybody's. Young but who's going to cost you money?
- 30:04Speaker 3: First who's first on the money?
- 30:08Speaker 1: Train the question Is doyle had this great rookie, year
- 30:12Speaker 1: hasn't been as good Since Jordan beck has, potential did
- 30:16Speaker 1: not have a good start to the. Year these guys are, producing, Right,
- 30:19Speaker 1: brett how long you've been here seven and a half?
- 30:22Speaker 3: Years something you're going to find out and if it's
- 30:24Speaker 3: taken a while for you TO i keep.
- 30:26Speaker 1: Telling you, this positioned players thrive. Here WELL i, know
- 30:30Speaker 1: But i'm, saying who's going to get the?
- 30:31Speaker 4: PLAYER i?
- 30:32Speaker 3: Know but this happens all the. Time they can you
- 30:34Speaker 3: cultivate position players?
- 30:36Speaker 1: Here that's. EASY i, mean you go out, there you
- 30:39Speaker 1: grow some. Flowers those flowers always. Bloom feltner had a
- 30:43Speaker 1: good start last.
- 30:43Speaker 3: Night but it's the other, position the most important position
- 30:47Speaker 3: that they struggle with.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, No i'm well aware of. This i'm well.
- 30:51Speaker 1: Aware it's just a question of what they're going to
- 30:52Speaker 1: do in the. Outfield now here's what's. FUNNY i think
- 30:57Speaker 1: these two things can be true. Simultaneously The rockies are
- 31:00Speaker 1: not a good baseball, team BUT i do think they're
- 31:03Speaker 1: a fun. WATCH i really do think they're a fun.
- 31:06Speaker 1: Watch they aren't, good but it's not like last. Year
- 31:09Speaker 1: they're losing games by five runs every single. Night even
- 31:11Speaker 1: when they're down, big they seem to come. BACK i don't.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Know they're a very confusing.
- 31:15Speaker 3: Team apologies toll on My boston. FANS i enjoy beating
- 31:19Speaker 3: The Red. SOX i still. Have i'm still chopped over
- 31:21Speaker 3: two thousand and seven In Red Sox nation invading Corse.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Field by the, way if you want to know how
- 31:27Speaker 1: Good Red sox pitching, is MOCH i believe the number
- 31:30Speaker 1: was one hundred and thirty two consecutive wins when they
- 31:33Speaker 1: entered the ninth inning leading by two or. More welcome To.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Corsefield Red sox.
- 31:37Speaker 4: Stink they're. Bad Red. SOX i, mean thank, goodness.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Give me More.
- 31:45Speaker 6: Emacs when the ball got knocked out Of Drake may's, hands.
- 31:51Speaker 3: You, know in, hindsight that is the Most Brian kelly
- 31:55Speaker 3: Thing i've ever heard.
- 31:58Speaker 1: With his family when he gets introduced BY lsu meant.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Bit when D max speaks to, us he speaks like
- 32:04Speaker 1: a normal. Human but as soon as he gets back
- 32:07Speaker 1: to one of his, own we get This Bob brady.
- 32:10Speaker 4: Here it's.
- 32:13Speaker 6: Obnoxious when the ball got knocked out Of Drake may's,
- 32:17Speaker 6: hands it wasn't his.
- 32:19Speaker 1: School wasn't his? School the one this story that we
- 32:21Speaker 1: read not too long ago about the lacrosse team that
- 32:23Speaker 1: got banned from the championship for smoking a, cigar and
- 32:26Speaker 1: that was his, Hometown, Ipswich. Ipswich that's, right that's.
- 32:29Speaker 3: Right SO i worked In austin for three. Years we've
- 32:32Speaker 3: interviewed people From. TEXAS i, went.
- 32:34Speaker 1: All was a breakdown into, this didn't you tell?
- 32:36Speaker 3: Me you started saying things like fixing tacks into and
- 32:39Speaker 3: my brothers looked at me at the dinner table and,
- 32:41Speaker 3: said you.
- 32:42Speaker 1: Stop that right.
- 32:43Speaker 4: Now that stops right now.
- 32:47Speaker 1: What the rest of your family is. Saying and you're
- 32:51Speaker 1: going fixing, Too i'm fixing it chopped? Down his can
- 32:56Speaker 1: only ride?
- 32:56Speaker 4: Here, yeah all.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Right so when we, return somebody THAT i think is
- 33:02Speaker 1: going to be very very, important that maybe has flown
- 33:04Speaker 1: under the radar in the city Of denver in the
- 33:07Speaker 1: next few. Months we'll get to it. Next that's. All
- 33:09Speaker 1: As sharad is This scorpions it, IS i get AN
- 33:15Speaker 1: a for music. History cant me give you guys some,
- 33:19Speaker 1: numbers NUMBERS i was just perusing The broncos. Have they're
- 33:28Speaker 1: an odd. Position when you have the success that you
- 33:30Speaker 1: did last, year when you're on the doorstep of The Super,
- 33:32Speaker 1: bowl everybody kind of, thinks, well we're right. There we'll
- 33:35Speaker 1: be there every year. NOW i, mean we thought that
- 33:36Speaker 1: when The avs won The. Cup it's, like, well they're
- 33:39Speaker 1: going to be here every, year and then your team
- 33:41Speaker 1: captain's out for three and a half. Years some other
- 33:42Speaker 1: weird stuff goes. On don't do. It The nuggets win a, Championship,
- 33:46Speaker 1: Gosh Nicole JOKICH. Mvp you win a title and the
- 33:49Speaker 1: FINALS mvp him And jamal crushing it in the. Postseason
- 33:53Speaker 1: then you can't bring Back Bruce. Brown you're trying to
- 33:55Speaker 1: piece meal a roster. Together doesn't. Work in the case
- 33:59Speaker 1: of The. Broncos they have a few things THAT i
- 34:02Speaker 1: think make for in unsteady prediction next year for what
- 34:07Speaker 1: their season can. Be one is their schedule is a lot.
- 34:09Speaker 1: Tougher we know that the first six weeks of the
- 34:11Speaker 1: year are. Difficult your record one score games always makes
- 34:15Speaker 1: me nervous because weird, bounces weird plays can happen that
- 34:19Speaker 1: can flip. Those the other thing is what do you do?
- 34:22Speaker 1: Best And i've talked to you about this, Before, moses
- 34:24Speaker 1: but what The broncos did to almost a historic clip
- 34:28Speaker 1: was get after the. Quarterback they almost set a record
- 34:32Speaker 1: for sacks and a season as a, team and they've
- 34:34Speaker 1: done that for like the last two. Years, also in
- 34:38Speaker 1: the last two, Years i'm, sorry three forty one and
- 34:44Speaker 1: a half of those sacks have come From Jonathan cooper
- 34:47Speaker 1: And John Franklin, myers who one of them is not
- 34:50Speaker 1: on the roster. Anymore the other is very much up
- 34:52Speaker 1: in the air whether he's going to be on the.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Roster when you take that kind of a hit to
- 34:56Speaker 1: the thing that you do, best somebody's got to step
- 35:00Speaker 1: through and make up for the. Void, again we don't
- 35:02Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen With, cooper but let's just assume
- 35:05Speaker 1: that he's out for some sort of amount of. Time,
- 35:07Speaker 1: well who is. IT i can tell you, This Jonah.
- 35:10Speaker 3: Ellis i've watched him a little bit and they're not,
- 35:14Speaker 3: Hitting so it doesn't mean.
- 35:15Speaker 1: Anything, yeah he's good. Man well they were talking about
- 35:19Speaker 1: moving his position and stuff. Like that's more now he
- 35:23Speaker 1: needs to go, back not.
- 35:24Speaker 3: Anymore he's good AND i think he's going to be
- 35:27Speaker 3: an impact.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Player he's too, young very very. Like the two guys
- 35:34Speaker 1: THAT i point to immediately are him and limited playing
- 35:38Speaker 1: time from this. Guy but rave reviews in practice all year.
- 35:41Speaker 1: Long just couldn't get on the field for you're good
- 35:44Speaker 1: at these. Positions Ke robinson's another one that really intrigues.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Me but you're gonna need some combination of. Guys REMEMBER
- 35:51Speaker 1: i told you forty one and a half sacks over
- 35:53Speaker 1: the last three, years forty one and a, half AND
- 35:56Speaker 1: i think that number is somewhere around like thirty five
- 35:58Speaker 1: and just the last two because that's When, frank When
- 36:00Speaker 1: myers came. Over that's a lot of production that is
- 36:04Speaker 1: going to be taken away from the thing that you do.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Best and that adds to helping your, secondary your linebacker.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Play it helps the field, position it helps with everything.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Else and it might do just be.
- 36:15Speaker 2: Sex it's, pressures, yes it's it's moving that quarterback two
- 36:19Speaker 2: steps to his left so the pass is.
- 36:21Speaker 4: Incomplete it adds up it.
- 36:24Speaker 2: Does AND i was already concerned about the loss OF,
- 36:26Speaker 2: jfm and now you're dealing with.
- 36:28Speaker 4: This, so, look you can't keep everybody all the. TIME
- 36:32Speaker 4: i get, that.
- 36:34Speaker 2: But we've haven't really seen this team in this. Regard you,
- 36:40Speaker 2: know lose a key guy that was a factor in
- 36:43Speaker 2: something that was your, strength and so let's see how
- 36:45Speaker 2: they handle.
- 36:46Speaker 4: It, YEAH i don't.
- 36:47Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know what they're going to, do especially
- 36:49Speaker 1: in an offseason where did you use your first pick
- 36:53Speaker 1: on an interior defensive lineman but it was a third, rounder,
- 36:56Speaker 1: right you.
- 36:56Speaker 3: KNOW i think it'd be fair to say that The
- 36:58Speaker 3: broncos may get better, offensively and at the same, time
- 37:03Speaker 3: the improvements they make, offensively you might see them fall
- 37:07Speaker 3: back a little.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Defensively, SURE i think that's totally. Fair it's interesting towards
- 37:13Speaker 1: the end of last, year if you guys, remember so
- 37:15Speaker 1: The broncos were on just a crazy pace defensively to
- 37:19Speaker 1: start the. Season towards the end of the year that
- 37:22Speaker 1: didn't wasn't quite the. Same they were giving up twelve
- 37:28Speaker 1: points three seventeen to, eleven and then after their bye
- 37:31Speaker 1: week it was twenty six, seventeen twenty, six thirty four
- 37:36Speaker 1: like they started to creep a little bit more into,
- 37:39Speaker 1: defense giving up some. Numbers offense got to make up
- 37:42Speaker 1: for the, slack if you, remember like That Green bay
- 37:44Speaker 1: game was a big example of. That the following, week
- 37:47Speaker 1: that's When jacksonville came in here and beat you. Up
- 37:49Speaker 1: scored thirty four. Points Hell. Man even in The buffalo,
- 37:53Speaker 1: GAME i mean that was you gave up. Thirty you,
- 37:55Speaker 1: won but you gave up thirty while causing five turnovers
- 37:59Speaker 1: in that. Game SO i think it's fair to say
- 38:01Speaker 1: that they might take a little bit of a step.
- 38:02Speaker 1: Back but that's where you put a little bit more
- 38:04Speaker 1: pressure and some of the onus on your offense to
- 38:08Speaker 1: make up for. IT i just that's a lot of
- 38:11Speaker 1: production that you're gonna have to find a way to
- 38:13Speaker 1: replace in two guys that were hugely. Impactful like think about,
- 38:17Speaker 1: this somebody called on the text line during the, Appetizer
- 38:21Speaker 1: Jonathan cooper is just a. Guy AND i don't think
- 38:26Speaker 1: that the numbers that he was producing was just a guy.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Numbers over the last three, Years cooper had eight and
- 38:32Speaker 1: a half, sacks ten and a half and then eight last.
- 38:34Speaker 1: Season that's not just a. Dude that's a good.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Player and you have to understand Two, texter that it's
- 38:41Speaker 2: how all the parts fit, together and with What cooper
- 38:45Speaker 2: does and with WHAT jfm did in the, middle it
- 38:47Speaker 2: also Allowed benito to get a little bit more.
- 38:49Speaker 4: Loose, yeah it Allowed.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Benito to then, have you, know go one on one
- 38:55Speaker 2: and beat his man and so on and so.
- 38:57Speaker 4: Forth there's no.
- 38:58Speaker 1: Defense there's no blocking scheme for allowing pressure up the.
- 39:03Speaker 4: Middle.
- 39:03Speaker 1: Nothing it pushes every it pushes the quarterback. Backwards it
- 39:07Speaker 1: doesn't allow a running game like. Nothing that's why guys
- 39:09Speaker 1: Like Aaron, donald.
- 39:10Speaker 3: That's why he was so in, value and that's why
- 39:12Speaker 3: that defense was so dominant because a lot of other
- 39:14Speaker 3: players eight on the shoulders Of Aaron.
- 39:17Speaker 1: Donald, yeah quick shout out by the. WAY i know
- 39:21Speaker 1: we didn't talk about this really at, all but allow
- 39:23Speaker 1: me to be selfish for a, second because one of
- 39:25Speaker 1: my favorite things is The College World. Series oklahoma wins
- 39:29Speaker 1: The College World series. Yesterday do you know the story surrounding?
- 39:34Speaker 1: Them probably. NOT i don't think a lot of people.
- 39:36Speaker 1: Do oklahoma heading into the conference tournament in THE sec
- 39:42Speaker 1: was fourteen and sixteen in conference. Play what fourteen and?
- 39:46Speaker 1: Sixteen they lost in the first round to the number
- 39:48Speaker 1: fourteen TEAM lsu in THE Sec. Tournament then they then
- 39:54Speaker 1: didn't lose the rest of the.
- 39:55Speaker 3: Way because that was double, elimination Right so They, yes
- 39:58Speaker 3: they WENT U IF i have this, RIGHT i think
- 40:02Speaker 3: they went ten and one through regionals And Super regionals
- 40:05Speaker 3: to get to The College World series.
- 40:06Speaker 1: And then end up Beating North carolina in the. Championship
- 40:09Speaker 1: it was what was the amazing. Run but they had
- 40:11Speaker 1: an overall record that was pretty, good right, well they
- 40:14Speaker 1: started outside of conference. Players they started the year. Great
- 40:16Speaker 1: they were at one point ranked number seven in the
- 40:19Speaker 1: country and then just fell. Apart but for them to
- 40:22Speaker 1: come back like, that it's pretty unprecedented in the college.
- 40:25Speaker 4: World so they caught they caught that, fuzz that magic.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Fuzz yes they, did and they left no doubt they
- 40:31Speaker 1: won thirteen to.
- 40:32Speaker 2: Two teams will win in different. Ways one team is
- 40:35Speaker 2: just really good and, dominant and other teams are, good
- 40:38Speaker 2: but they catch a magic fuzz where everything they do
- 40:41Speaker 2: turns to.
- 40:42Speaker 4: Gold, yeah that's what that's what this feels like to.
- 40:46Speaker 1: Me who was? It there was a team in college
- 40:48Speaker 1: baseball that was averaging eleven runs a game that they.
- 40:51Speaker 1: BEAT i can't remember who it. Was but it's it's
- 40:54Speaker 1: pretty insane run on the way to a. Championship so
- 40:58Speaker 1: shout out though you. Soon so both in The Men's
- 41:03Speaker 1: College World series in The Women's College World, series two
- 41:06Speaker 1: teams that were Former big twelve. Teams oh you In
- 41:08Speaker 1: texas end up taking the crowns in both of. Those
- 41:10Speaker 1: now in THE sec, uh just quickly Here texas, says
- 41:14Speaker 1: right now, today who's? Better cooper Von? MILLER i, Mean
- 41:18Speaker 1: Jonathan cooper's, Better, well he's he's.
- 41:21Speaker 3: YOUNGER i, MEAN I Van miller's, situational BUT i think
- 41:24Speaker 3: Von miller might be.
- 41:25Speaker 1: Craftier, yeah but a Sense.
- 41:28Speaker 4: I'm saying he.
- 41:31Speaker 1: Did but Von, MILLER i don't think it is an
- 41:33Speaker 1: every down.
- 41:34Speaker 4: Guy he is.
- 41:35Speaker 1: Situationally i'll throw you in and once every three or
- 41:39Speaker 1: four plays down pretty, close pretty close.
- 41:43Speaker 3: To the snaps last. Year look up his snaps and
- 41:45Speaker 3: where he ranks snap total on the. Team they rotate those, dudes, Man,
- 41:50Speaker 3: yeah they. Do gone are the days of playing. Exclusively
- 41:53Speaker 3: they're in.
- 41:54Speaker 2: And out and The broncos have done a terrific job
- 41:58Speaker 2: of that in the last couple three. Years on the
- 42:01Speaker 2: defensive side of the, football rotating guys in and. Out
- 42:04Speaker 2: everybody getting to, taste everybody getting to, play everybody contributing
- 42:08Speaker 2: in one way or. Another but, again that's part of
- 42:11Speaker 2: your rotation when you have to now put a new
- 42:13Speaker 2: guy in who is more is expected out Of how
- 42:18Speaker 2: do they react to?
- 42:18Speaker 4: It how do they do?
- 42:19Speaker 1: It sixty one percent of the snaps actually the almost
- 42:22Speaker 1: the exact, same two less snaps Than. BENITO i, mean
- 42:26Speaker 1: they're on the field the same amount of time, virtually
- 42:30Speaker 1: but it's a huge if he doesn't. Play and this
- 42:34Speaker 1: is what's. WEIRD i don't know how the legal process.
- 42:36Speaker 1: WORKS i don't know what the league does in situations like,
- 42:39Speaker 1: this BUT i would assume is it safe to assume
- 42:41Speaker 1: he's gonna miss some? Time? Right you? KNOW i saw
- 42:45Speaker 1: the other.
- 42:45Speaker 3: Night i'm WATCHING Nfl network and they show old, games
- 42:49Speaker 3: And i'm watching the two thousand eleven playoff game between
- 42:53Speaker 3: The broncos and The, steelers the game in Which tebow
- 42:57Speaker 3: Hits Tamarus thomas in overtime in the game in dramatic.
- 43:01Speaker 3: Fashion but what stuck out for me in that game
- 43:04Speaker 3: we all knew that The broncos were just a run.
- 43:06Speaker 3: Team how they could generate three four yards of carry
- 43:10Speaker 3: with that LITTLE Qb reid Game nemo And willis McGahee at.
- 43:15Speaker 4: WILL i, mean it was not even.
- 43:16Speaker 1: Hard every carry boom three four, yards three four, yards
- 43:20Speaker 1: three four.
- 43:20Speaker 3: Yards it was so, Easy AND i couldn't help but
- 43:23Speaker 3: think to, Myself, god that offense would have been handy
- 43:26Speaker 3: in the second half of THE Afc championship game when
- 43:28Speaker 3: they couldn't run for a half, yard let alone three or. Four,
- 43:30Speaker 3: yeah isn't it amazing how sometimes you want what you don't.
- 43:33Speaker 3: Have like that offense was, futrid, obviously but when they
- 43:37Speaker 3: wanted to run the ball four yards was.
- 43:39Speaker 1: Easy if Bo nicks was in the, game he probably
- 43:43Speaker 1: could have done. That, NOW i don't know if you
- 43:46Speaker 1: want to subject him to. IT i, mean team was
- 43:48Speaker 1: a big. Guy he could take some.
- 43:49Speaker 3: Hits but in THE afc title, game you do whatever
- 43:51Speaker 3: it means. Necessary, right there's a winter, squall you can't
- 43:55Speaker 3: see the. Field you run whatever you need to.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Run five oh four oh nine two five shop maas
- 44:02Speaker 1: de text line one, price one, person one hour back
- 44:04Speaker 1: after this