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David Kaplan talks Cubs & Bears, Dave Sinykin on the Packers & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Our number 2 welcome back Miller in Condon on the Iowa Sports
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Radio Network as we take you up until 2:00 Cappy momentarily
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just real quick on this, we'll come back to a Trent on three is
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reporting that the Big 12 will now require football teams to
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provide daily injury reports three days prior to the game.
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So we'll get an availability report.
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They'll designate available, probable, questionable, doubtful
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or out on Wednesday, updated Thursday, updated Friday and
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then update it before the game. Somebody got to check on that
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gamble. Now he's got to be right.
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With more on that coming up is Cappy's got a heart out and we
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want to get to him here. Hello, capper.
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Trenton, Ken. Good to speak.
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With you boys, how we doing? OK, so let's start obviously
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with the Cubs in there and the struggles that they're currently
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going through right now. And it's been a prolonged going
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through. Had opportunities last night,
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just couldn't get the big hit when they needed it.
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PCA strikes out bases loaded. PCA has not been good at the
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plate as of late. Where are you on this Cubs?
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What's going wrong Cap, and how do they fix it?
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I mean, you know, everybody wants to blame Craig counsel and
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why, you know, don't think he's the greatest manager of all
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time. He's a damn good baseball guy.
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Put the blame where it belongs. I'm the players.
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You know, like 3 or 4 weeks ago at least, I was really critical
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of Kyle Tucker on an Instagram post that's got, I don't know,
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60,000 views. Now I'm getting all these
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messages. How can you be critical of Kyle
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Tucker? You're an idiot.
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You don't know what you're talking about.
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And then last night my friend from Bleacher Nation tweeted
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we're all tiptoeing around because we want Kyle Tucker to
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re sign with us. And I retweeted him and said not
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all of us have been tiptoeing around.
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Look. If he's not healthy and I don't
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believe he is, he should not be playing.
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Here's my question and it just I'm just an idiot with a
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microphone. I haven't been a Major League
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player, but if Kyle Tucker's exit should be bat speed is down
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to 70 miles an hour and it's been a dramatic drop and he's
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getting literally no exit velocity on balls that he hits.
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What would be wrong with putting him on the 10 day IL and saying,
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hey, Owen, can you get to Toronto?
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Can you get to Chicago? Can you get to Milwaukee,
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wherever we're at? And then say as Suzuki looks
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lost, he swung at a pitch to strike out with the bases
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loaded. That was literally 4 feet in the
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other batter's box. I mean, he looks like he
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couldn't hit it with a 12 foot bow door.
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So what would be wrong with giving him a couple days and
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going? You know what, Moises, can you
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get yourself to Toronto? We let you play in one of the
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bigger games of the year at the time against the Brewers and you
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got a bases loaded, bases clearing double.
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You were good enough to bat there.
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We won't trade either of you because you're untouchables in
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our system. Our offense looks freaking
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broken. You know what?
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But we're going to shake things up tonight.
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Guess what? Tonight, Owen Casey's in right
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field, Moist. This year's the DH.
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Let's go. But instead, we'll run the same
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lousy producing line up out there, and I'll watch Ian Hap,
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who makes a wonderful cup of coffee and is a great kid, is
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having a horrible year as a hitter.
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I'm going to watch PCA, who's 3 for 37 in August, probably
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strike out in a key situation. I'll watch Kyle Tucker go up
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there and not look healthy. Doesn't look like he could turn
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on his knee. I don't know if it's his finger
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as well from the June injury diving into second base.
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I'm going to watch all this and then I'm going to watch Suzuki
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and the inning striking out on a pitch in the other dugout.
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It's beyond nauseating. You mentioned PCA and the three
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for 37, Baton O 81 here in the month of August.
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We knew the whiff rate was really high and the numbers that
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he was putting up earlier this season with that whiff rate are
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just unsustainable. You're not going to hit at that
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level. What's more true though, that
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this guy's going to be a perennial All Star, or the holes
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in his swing are going to keep him back from being a high
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impact bat year in and you're out.
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PCA yes, it's it's absolutely comes down to pitch selection.
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I mean, I'm watching some of the decisions that he makes at the
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plate and I love PCA. He plays hard.
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He's a great person. He connects with our fan base.
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Like, I watch a lot of this and it's super, super cool, But look
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at his pitch selection, look at his arm base percentage.
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He's not going to be a 40 home run guy every year.
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He's not. I don't think he's getting there
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this year anyway. But that all said, son, you
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can't be swinging at pitches that are, you know, 3 inches
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above the strike zone at your back foot.
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When they throw you a slider, ones that are breaking away off
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the plate, you you've got to have more discipline at the
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plate. Ariat.
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Who's been the most consistent cub this year?
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Is it Nico Horner? The most consistent call.
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That's a very good question. I would have said Michael Bush
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until this recent cold spell. So it's not him.
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Nico would absolutely be, let's say, King of the mountain.
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He'd be #1 and knock him off. Dansby absolutely not Matt Shaw,
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he's been excellent. Now, he absolutely was not
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consistent early. So no Ian Hap, no Carson Kelly.
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He's been. Great surprise.
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Solid, solid player, but not great.
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So not him. PCA, obviously.
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No, he's three for his last 37. Kyle Tucker?
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No, absolutely not. Yeah, it's by for sure, Nico
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Horner. Kate Horton gets the ball
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tonight, and Horton has a scoreless innings streak of
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what, 20 some innings that he hasn't given up in a run?
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23 and a third. 23 and a third just completely.
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But he's young and it's kind of now becoming a weekly topic of
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conversation. They've been pulling them out
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early, not let him get deep into games, not just in terms of
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innings but also pitch count. But what do you do for a break
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here because you have to have this guy come out Dover.
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Kate has to be great tonight, which is unfortunate that I'm
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telling you, a 23 year old who was not even here to start the
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season, that he has to be not good.
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He's got to be elite tonight because you're facing Kevin
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Gosman, who's a really good veteran pitcher.
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And right now, my offense looks like Ray Charles is at the
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plate. You know, yeah, How about the
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play Bichette and Guerrero combined to make last night?
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Did you guys see that play? Oh yeah.
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That was in the stretch. Incredible plan.
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I still don't know how they and they did.
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He was out. I don't know how they got Nico
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on that play. Yeah, I don't either.
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Yeah, unbelievable. All right, Cap, let's get to the
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Bears. What did?
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What do we know at this point? Training camp wise, got one pre
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season game behind us. What's kind of the consensus on
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the Bears? Thoughts far?
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Well, first of all, Ben Johnson just announced a little bit ago
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you guys have been on the air. Caleb Williams will start at
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quarterback Sunday night at Soldier Field against the
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Buffalo Bills. So it will be Caleb Williams
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ducking under center. Joe Tooney, all the starters are
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going to play. How much that remains to be
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seen. I mean, if you told me they win
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the coin toss, they elect to receive and he takes them right
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down the field and they get a touchdown, he's probably done
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for the night, I would think. But if they have some scuffles
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or if it's kind of, they'll probably go back out and play
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again. Do I think he plays the whole
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first? I don't, unless Ben really wants
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to roll the dice because you can't take a chance on getting
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Joe Tony's ankle rolled up or anything like that happening.
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But they are going to play all the starters against Buffalo.
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Sean McDermott did not commit to playing his starters.
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We know a year ago things fell apart after the Hail Mary in
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Washington. Jaquan Brisker, though, his
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injury, I think was a big part of some of that comeback that we
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saw a year ago. He knows you can't lead with his
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head right and concussions have been a major issue for him.
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What are you seeing out of training camp?
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A guy shaking off the cobwebs and and getting back out there
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on the field. He's going to be a hugely
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important piece of the back end of that D.
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Yeah, he looks really good. And he, he, they said they had
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to work with him on some fundamentals of tackling to keep
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him safe. And so, yeah, he looks really,
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really good. Hopefully it stays that way
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because when he's healthy, yeah, that dudes a monster.
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How did they use the tight ends? Both Comet and Loveland capped
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When you think back to the which weird right?
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Finished in a tie did it not? I think it did.
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How did they utilize both time? Did they both play cap?
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I didn't see the game. No, K Cole did not play in game
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one. Colston did a little bit.
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He didn't play a lot. Colson's much more of A tight
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end body wide receiver game. He can block, but Cole is much
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more tight end body tight end player wide receiver type
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mentality at times. So they're different.
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As they're putting this offense together, Ben Johnson comes in,
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he's got his offensive staff, obviously a young quarterback,
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everything that goes into it. One thing that I've noticed when
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I read through the practice reports, a lot of pre snap
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stuff, right penalties, guys not in the right spot.
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And it feels like even going back to the game Sunday, what
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they had, I think a couple of formation or illegal shift
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penalties that were in there. Does it feel like it's taking
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longer to kind of get everything implemented, or am I?
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Am I just looking for negativity because it's the Chicago Bears
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and there's always negativity there?
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No, I think it's fair. When I pull up the audio, you
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guys should play it for your audience.
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Taron Armstead was at practice the other day because he brought
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works, not broadcast, but works around the Dolphins.
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He retired. He was a really good tackle for
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them and he said I see all the talent, why Caleb Williams is
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the number one pick. But he said I think he struggles
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still with processing in Ben's offense.
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He said it's going to take time, you should play.
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It's like a 2 minute clip it. I think he's right on the money.
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Do I think it can get better? Yes.
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And tomorrow morning Ben Johnson's on my radio show with
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Jonathan Hood on ESPN 1000 at 8:00 AM.
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I'm going to ask him that exact question.
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Is that an inherent skill or can you teach Caleb to prostate?
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I want to hear his answer. If Caleb Williams gets hurt,
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obviously Baigent and Keenum are are both there.
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It'll be one of those two. Which one would it be Cap?
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Would it be the veteran or is Baigent done enough in his
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tenure as a bear to secure that number two spot?
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Or is it a battle in camp? No, he'll be the number two.
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He absolutely will. Because of the age.
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Difference. Because of the age, just
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Keenum's been around so long. Is he better?
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At this point, yeah. OK, Yeah.
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Speaking of the offense on that staff that I mentioned, Declan
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Doyle connection here to the state of Iowa with his father, a
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guy that just rose up the ranks in an incredible level.
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What has been your take away from the OC?
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We know Ben Johnson's obviously going to have his fingerprints
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in the in the plate calling all over it, but what you've seen
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from young Declan Doyle. I loved him at the podium the
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other day. He's honest.
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You could tell Ben has empowered his coaches.
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You know, when it was Eberfluse, like today, Danny Rauscher was
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critical of Braxton Jones and of Darnell Wright.
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He just said Braxton Jones. That's got to be better.
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We set a standard here and we're going to have to make sure that
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standard is is met every single day.
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He said Darnell Wright Friday and the joint practice is
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outstanding. He reverted right back to what
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they don't like Sunday in the game.
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I like that Matt Eberflus would have been there.
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We're fine, set to execute. We'll keep working this guy.
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They're honest. And when Declan Doyle was asked
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about Caleb Williams and the offense and Luther Burden and,
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you know, Roma, dude, he gives you answers.
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I love the way this staff is comporting themselves.
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Were you shocked that Cairo Santos made a field goal of 57
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yards? He said that he worked in the
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offseason, Richard Hightower changing trajectory and working
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in the weight room, so I love it.
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So does that mean that'll that'll carry over to the
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regular? I mean, obviously circumstances
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and wind, etcetera, variables, but do they trust Santos more to
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kick long field goals now after what they've seen?
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Let's see what he does when it's 18° and the falls like a frozen
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rock, yeah? Good.
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Sure. Kathy, final thing from me and
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that is our buddy Mike in Waterloo, He calls in.
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He loves talking about the White Sox.
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We don't talk about the White Sox often unless they're
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relevant and it's been a while. They're playing better.
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There's a couple of young guys you can see Olson, Montgomery,
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maybe. Are we the trajectory in the
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American League Central? You got to tear it down and then
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build it back up. Are we at this stage now we're
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building back up as likely, or is there still maybe another
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level of awfulness before we get to that point for the White Sox?
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No, I do not think there's another level of awfulness for
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the White Sox. I really like what Chris Getz
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has done. Now Jerry has to empower him in
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the offseason that hey man, here's some money.
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They're not going to get Otani or Soto type deals.
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But there is no reason that there are 4 veteran signings
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that make decent money that stabilizes that thing and that
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the White Sox are flirting at 500 next year.
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No reason if they stay healthy. Make your sales staff at ESPN 1
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1000 happy if that was the case. Cap must be tough, so tell.
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Me about. It I got it Cap, good to talk to
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you. I know you got a hard out, so
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we'll let you go good stuff and we'll talk to you with next week
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capper. Thank you buddy.
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Look forward to it. Have a great day, boy.
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Yep, see buddy David Kaplan ESPN 1000 as YouTube channel doing
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great numbers over there following all the Cubs games,
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all the Bears games, et cetera, et cetera.
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I never asked him about the kid up.
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It's alright, we didn't need to get his blood pressure going
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before he was doing ATV. Gotcha.
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Alright, so back to the news that Brett Mcmurphy broke, Yes,
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regarding the availability report, something that you and I
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have been standing on our soap boxes and bitching and moaning
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and letting the world know, well, whoever listens to us,
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that this is something that needs to be done.
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And it's not for Miller in Condon, it's for the student
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athletes. And I think Greg Sankey hit it
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out of the park with his comment as the reporting policies intend
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to reduce pressure on outside entities seeking participation
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information from players. It's enhanced transparency to
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protect the student athletes and the integrity of competition.
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It's exactly what we've been saying.
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I'm shocked that it took this long.
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I'm grateful that we're here, finally.
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And the Big 12 went deep into it before we kind of get into the
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nuts and bolts of it, because I think that is also an important
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piece, absolutely is of this story.
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Above and beyond how many? Times.
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You've been listening to Ken now for 30 years on the air.
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You've listened to me for 20 years on the air.
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How many times have we talked about how Vegas knows?
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How do they know? How do they know inside a
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college locker room that Player A is injured?
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How do you see a point spread move before anything's out
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there? And it's because in the old
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days, they had a bowl, they had somebody in there.
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It might have been a trainer, it might have been a staff member.
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A lot of times, yes, it was an athlete, It was a player on the
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team that'd be feeding this information.
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And it's a couple 100 bucks, maybe a couple 1000 bucks for
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the year. But these people were getting
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paid by people in the betting world for that information.
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You take it away because the shady side of that, it goes
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deeper and you're just opening up Pandora's box when you allow
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this. And why it took this long, I'll
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still never understand. But we're here and now the four
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major conferences have this as it should be now going forward.
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I think now everybody needs to replicate.
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I agree with what the Big 12 finally.
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Did because the SEC and the Big 10, yes, they put something out
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and we're grateful for that. But the Big 12 is going to
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require their athletic departments when it comes to
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football to put out a report on Wednesday, on Thursday, on
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Friday and on Saturday. And they they will designate the
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players and even you and I didn't ask for this much, for
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this much depth. They're going to be available.
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They'll be probable, they'll be questionable or they'll be
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doubtful or out. So 5 different categories.
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Now in the NFL, it says, you know, they're out with a knee or
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they're out with a shoulder. They don't they don't list that
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and they don't have to. We're not.
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Asking for that. Available, probable,
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questionable, doubtful are out. So you'll be able to see what
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happened from Wednesday. Oh, something got hurt in
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practice, or he was downgraded, or he was doubtful on Wednesday.
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Now he's probable on Friday. And then when the report comes
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out, that quarterback that you've been wondering about or
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that first string, a running back or tight end or whatever
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the case may be when it comes to skill positions, everyone will
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know. Everyone.
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There's transparency. Finally, Big 12, it took you a
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while to get here. I'm glad you're here.
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I would love to see the result of the vote because it was the
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Big 12 athletic directors that voted on this.
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The vote happened today. We'll see.
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I mean, was it unanimous? I find it hard to believe, but
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I'm not going to, I'm not going to pry anymore.
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And then basketball, they're going to put out report on the
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day of the game. Is that how you read?
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It will indicate if a players, if the player is available, game
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time, decision or out. That's something that also needs
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to be there and basketballs in in the same vein.
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Big 12, I mean Big 10 SEC Time to get your act together.
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Absolutely. Let's get this for everything.
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And there is availability reports, I believe for
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basketball. I think it's 90 minutes before,
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if memory serves. I remember a couple of things
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that have popped up. But it's something so simple, so
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easy. We've said it for years and they
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did it right. We don't need to know what the
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injury is. No, they are college athletes.
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That is fine, right? But to know it, if you're going
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to have a point spread on it, get away from the shady side of
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the business, get it out in the open.
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And is it going to change one iota?
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Has Iowa lost a football game because they've had to put out a
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participation? Room.
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No. Did anybody get an edge?
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No. Everybody has to do it.
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Yes, right. They all have to do it now.
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And it's awesome that they all have to do it now.
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And the Big 12, in my opinion, went above and beyond, and I'm
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not complaining. I think it's great.
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Thankfully, it's finally here that we're going to know.
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And it's not because I gamble on games.
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I don't gamble on games. I don't want this information.
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I want to take it away from the, you know, the internal portion
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of it from the pressure that comes on some of these athletes.
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You see it now that if you go to a player's Instagram feed or
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some of their social media, the A holes and they are a holes
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that attack them because, you know, I needed one more yard and
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you went out about or whatever. It's not right.
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But this is now one thing that makes that conspiracy.
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Look, sports wagering is here whether you like it or not.
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And I know a lot of you don't. I get it.
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But it's here. And I don't think it's going
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away. I really don't.
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But this, this transparency that's now going to be a part of
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the ACC and the Big 12. Well done.
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Got it. Got it.
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Todd wants to chime in. Then we'll get a break before
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I'll do that to tell you about Centurion Stone.
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But Todd, you're up. How are you?
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Good. Hey, I know this is early yet on
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this, but I'm just curious what happens when Iowa State and Iowa
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play now? Does Iowa have more information
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readily available than Iowa State does?
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And how's that going to work for other crossover games?
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Well, thank you, Todd. Appreciate the call.
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Fair question. I mean, in the past when I when
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Iowa State would play, I would put their injury report out and
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Iowa State didn't have to counter.
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We'll know as far we won't know Wednesday or Thursday or Friday.
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But as Trent and I just said, now the now the ball's in the
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other court, now the ball's back and it's been served back or
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volley back into the Big 10 and the SEC's court to maybe counter
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and do what the Big 12. Is doing so.
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You look back to last year and I had to put out their entry
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report before that game 90 minutes before this year.
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I believe the way that I understand it, Iowa State will
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still have to have their full injury report Wednesday,
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Thursday, Friday and Saturday even though they're on the road.
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Correct, Correct. Yeah.
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And here's the other thing. Who police's it?
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Yes. And what is going to be the
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penalty? Because the NFL, they don't
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screw around at. All they no, they don't.
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Draft picks, yes, but there's no such thing.
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And the Patriots played around with it for a long time.
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Well, they weren't alone. Yes, they absolutely.
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But Belichick? Yeah, but what?
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What's going to? What's going to be the
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ramifications? The penalties, you know, a slap
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on the wrist and do you push it right away I.
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Don't know. Especially for a team that's
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playing three games by the time we get to September 6th, that's.
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Bananas isn't it? It just blows me away.
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September the 6th. I mean there were, there were
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Their season began the last weekend in September.
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There's an 8 game schedule too. Sure.
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Dave Syndicate on the Packers Nexus, the One Reach team we've
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kind of lost track of, but we'll catch up on that when we come
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back. Miller and Condon and Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. I'm.
23:22
I'm Miller and Condon. Welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Yesterday we talked about the
23:27
Milwaukee Brewers. We're going to talk about the
23:29
Green Bay Packers. We've become all Wisconsin radio
23:32
all the time. But we do beam into northeastern
23:34
Iowa. That's right.
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And into the across the border on the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network. Dave Sinek and joins
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uspackerpreview.com year #30 Packer preview Sunday morning
23:44
before the Packer games. Dave, good to speak with his own
23:47
coverage.com. It's funny, we had our Brewers
23:50
guy on yesterday. We seldom talk about the
23:52
Brewers. But how can you ignore this
23:54
team, right? And he said it's it's crazy.
23:56
His podcast numbers usually just fall off a Cliff once football
24:00
season gets here, and he says they're holding steady.
24:03
The Brewers are quite a story. The Packers are gonna maybe have
24:06
to do something to knock him off the front page.
24:09
Yeah, well, certainly in the city of Milwaukee, that's that's
24:12
a baseball time town through and through.
24:14
And yeah, what a story. Since being, I think what, 24
24:17
and 28 at the end of May, It's it's incredible.
24:21
And of course, today is George Webb Hamburger Day.
24:23
If they I saw that 12 straight, you know, it's something growing
24:26
up in Milwaukee, my dad, my dad's office is right next to a
24:29
George Webb. So there was napkins back then.
24:31
That said, George Webb predicts the Brewers will win 12 straight
24:34
games this year. It wasn't a promise for burgers,
24:37
but that's what it turned into games later and they're ready to
24:40
hand out a lot of burgers at the Brewers.
24:42
Could win again this afternoon. And I heard somebody said it's
24:44
actually a trend he's going to bet against them because they've
24:47
had two opportunities this year. That's becoming a sports betting
24:50
trend that they haven't hit that magic number of 12.
24:53
Therefore the burgers aren't passed.
24:55
So are they good, the burgers? Oh, they're, yeah, they're
24:58
great. I mean, it's a, it's a kind of a
25:00
divey chain. I mean, this is back in the 70s
25:03
when I was growing up, but there was nothing quite like a George
25:06
Webb greasy burger. Man, it was delicious.
25:08
Beautiful. You guys know how to make a
25:09
burgers up there and good cheeseburgers no doubt in
25:12
Wisconsin. Hey, Dave, this Packers team,
25:15
Ken and I, it feels like we're pretty solid in lock step or
25:19
have our our heels dug in on our positions.
25:22
With a lot of teams in the NFL and certainly the ones here in
25:25
our region, the Packers, there is such a wide range of opinion.
25:29
One in five in the division last year.
25:30
Well, that can't happen again or can it could even get worse this
25:33
year. Teams going up.
25:35
The Packers, you can make an argument this team's going to
25:38
win the division and they're 12:00 and 5:00.
25:39
You can make an argument they're 7 and 10 and out of the
25:41
playoffs. Can you remember a year where
25:44
the range seems so wide nationally for a Packers team?
25:48
No, I think you're right. I mean, generally you look at
25:50
the odds in Vegas, they're the second favorite to win the
25:53
North. And that that's logical, I
25:54
suppose. But yeah, I think a lot of
25:57
things need to go the Packers way to to be that team to win
26:00
the North. I certainly think they're
26:02
capable of that. But man, the way injuries are
26:05
piling up right now, that if this becomes just one of those
26:07
seasons, yeah, I could see 7:00 and 10:00.
26:10
But I do think there's enough talent on both sides of the
26:13
football that if they stay mostly healthy, they're going to
26:15
be one of the better teams in the NFC.
26:17
Jordan loves how how much concern is is his thumb, It's
26:21
his left thumb. So obviously that's that's big,
26:24
but what's the concern there? And how much practice will he
26:26
miss Dave? Yeah, I think the concerns not
26:29
long term at all. I think the concern is just
26:32
missing out on a couple of really key weeks of practice
26:35
where they're playing against the Colts during the week, this
26:38
week, in the Seattle Seahawks next week and and some of those
26:42
reps are really valuable. Now, five of his top six
26:45
receivers are also hurt right now and not practicing.
26:48
So he wouldn't be missing out on too much timing with those guys.
26:50
But it's never good to miss valuable time, especially when
26:54
you look at Green Bay starting out with two key home games in
26:58
five days over NFC North against NFC North playoff teams.
27:01
They can't afford a slow start, so level concern is probably low
27:05
as far as Week 1. But I hate to see a quarterback
27:09
come in ice cold. Packers best players on both
27:12
sides of the football are going to end up missing most of
27:15
training camp, but that's just not good.
27:17
You mentioned the wide receiver and the injuries continue to
27:19
pile up. Watson still not back coming off
27:22
that torn ACL he suffered back in Week 18.
27:25
Where is he is in his recovery? And boy, just kind of looking at
27:28
it, it looks really bad in the wide receiver room injury wise
27:31
right now. Yeah, it's suddenly it's gotten
27:34
kind of ugly. It's interesting.
27:35
There's just the reporting on Watson's timetable His father
27:38
had over social media in the offseason said, you know, week
27:42
middle of the season is our expectation.
27:44
A Gouda Coons yesterday said, you know, he's going to go on
27:46
the PUP to start the year, which means the first four weeks.
27:49
And they already know that Watson and his camp are going to
27:52
be pushing to be activated after week 4.
27:55
They feel like he's really close.
27:56
They're going to be smart about it.
27:58
And I'm sure it'll be 6-7 weeks, but it sounds like Watson will
28:01
be available for more than half the season.
28:04
The injury I'm most concerned about is the Jayden Reed.
28:06
Foot injury. That bubbled up late in practice
28:08
last week. He was in a walking boot during
28:12
the game on Saturday. His availability to start the
28:15
season, to me is not a sure thing.
28:18
Gottavian Wicks hasn't practiced with a calf for a couple weeks.
28:21
Those calves could be tricky. Dobbs hurt his back yesterday in
28:24
a collision with safety Evan Williams.
28:27
So yeah, I mean, it's literally 5 of the tops.
28:30
Only Matthew Golden of the top 6 is healthy.
28:33
And we just kind of hold our breath every time practice
28:35
starts to make sure he can get through it.
28:37
But yeah, it's just a bit of weird rash in one position.
28:40
They brought in a bunch of bodies.
28:42
Not ideal, but it doesn't sound like anything is too long term
28:46
at this point. What kind of camp is the rookie
28:48
golden? Boy, he's turned heads.
28:52
And not just his speed, the hands, the separation, the route
28:56
running. They're pretty giddy in Green
28:58
Bay about what they're seeing there.
29:00
You're hearing about veterans, but their jaws just going, this
29:03
is different than what we've seen.
29:05
So I think there's a real possibility he's going to step
29:08
right into a a pretty major role for this team.
29:10
And obviously if he's the only healthy one, that goes without
29:13
saying. But no, he is.
29:15
He has turned heads for sure, and not just running at a speed
29:18
that nobody else in that camp can do.
29:21
So defensively, there's been highs or lows for this team,
29:25
certainly recently there. What do you kind of rate this
29:28
defense overall? I know the conversation starts
29:30
with Jordan Love and the offense and and new weapons and all that
29:32
stuff, but when you look at an all-encompassing view of the
29:35
defense, how good can Green Bay be on that side of the football?
29:39
I am a big believer in Jeff Haffley.
29:40
I think he's going to be a head coach sooner rather than later.
29:43
I think he took a team a defense last year that got off to a slow
29:47
start but got better and better. And by the end of the year they
29:50
finished as a top 10 unit in the NFL scoring defense.
29:54
And so and they're really going to take you the ball away.
29:57
A year into his system now, I think everybody kind of
30:00
understands their role. They've got a guy now in Edger
30:02
and Cooper who's on track to become one of those top
30:06
all-purpose Fred Warner type linebackers and they look really
30:11
deep on the defensive line. Couple of rookies from Georgia
30:14
have really stood out. A six rounder, Will Brinson, an
30:17
undrafted guy, Nazir Stackhouse. If those guys both look like
30:21
they look so far, they're going to be 6 deep on that defensive
30:24
interior, which is a big difference from what we've seen
30:28
a year ago. And they're also really high on
30:30
how Carrington Valentine's looks stepping into that outside
30:33
cornerback role with Nate Hobbs out.
30:35
You know, they get 2 of their top secondary guys out in
30:37
McKinney and Hobbs, which is allowing some other guys to step
30:40
up. So I just, I do believe in half
30:43
Lee's defense. They take the ball away, they
30:45
get pressure. Ultimately, it's going to be up
30:47
to Rashawn Gary and Lucas Van Ness to impact the quarterback
30:51
without having to resort to a lot of blitzing.
30:53
If they can unlock those two guys this year, I think Green
30:56
Bay's defense is going to be one of the best.
30:58
Last thing I'll get you out of here on this, Brandon McManus
31:01
found a home late in the year last year with the Packers.
31:04
Obviously a Super Bowl winner with with the Broncos because
31:06
he's 30, mid 30s now. What kind of campus he had?
31:11
You know what, I always liked him.
31:13
I thought he was accurate. I thought he had strength.
31:15
I think it was more than just the altitude in Denver that led
31:18
me to my belief that he is an upper echelon kicker.
31:21
Has he still got it, Dave? Like he's missed one kick the
31:24
entire training camp. He gets reported on all the time
31:28
because they can't believe he just doesn't mess.
31:29
So, yeah, he's he looks like he's in fine shape.
31:32
And as I've said a lot as we've looked ahead to the beginning of
31:35
this season, 2 positions that were in such flux last year for
31:38
Green Bay. Thought they'd be a good team,
31:40
but didn't know if they had a kicker, didn't know if they had
31:42
a backup quarterback. And as the season went along,
31:44
they find McManus Malik Willis steps in and shows that he's
31:47
capable. Those are two key things that
31:50
the Packers do not have to worry about this year.
31:53
They just got to worry about staying healthy, it looks like.
31:55
We will talk to you prior to week #1 zonecoverage.com, KFAN
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Sunday mornings, Packer Preview on KFAN every Sunday morning
32:03
year #30 for that program. Dave, thank you as always for
32:07
doing this. Appreciate it.
32:08
Dave Sinican talk to you in a couple of weeks.
32:11
Looking forward to it. See you guys.
32:12
Yep, see you, buddy, Dave Sinican, as we check in on our
32:15
final regional team, the Green Bay Packers.
32:17
All right, Steve's been patient waiting through our little Green
32:19
Bay conversation. Steve, thanks for being patient.
32:22
What's on your mind? Well, hey guys, thanks for your
32:26
reporting today on the betting issues and such in the injury
32:31
reports. I'm a certified athletic trainer
32:33
as well as a physical therapist. I got a lot of time in sports
32:35
medicine on sidelines and I guess a couple of thoughts came
32:39
to mind. One is you mentioned that you
32:42
know, sports wagering is here. Well, it's always been here.
32:45
I can remember stories of Johnny United and Dino Marchetti
32:49
getting hit up by mobsters for injury information, right?
32:53
So it's not gone. And I unfortunately, I think the
32:56
difference is that the the leagues are now complicit with
32:59
it for the sake of the money. And you have, you're never going
33:04
to see Alex Terrace and Paul Horning suspended anymore for
33:07
betting on a game. Probably.
33:11
The other thing I wanted to say from an athletic training
33:13
viewpoint is that, you know, you mentioned that, you know, they
33:16
could get touched up. They get touched up for injury
33:19
information. And yeah, I'm not so naive as to
33:21
think that couldn't happen. But I will say from the defense
33:25
of my profession, if any of them actually do it, they need to be
33:28
fired nurses in their credentials.
33:30
Revolt. Yep.
33:32
Yep, because that's that's an egregious violation of our
33:34
ethics. Yep, sure couldn't agree with
33:36
you more, Steve. Glad it's been brought out of
33:38
the shadows and out of the alleys.
33:40
And now the transparency, he's going to be there.
33:42
Long overdue. Steve, thanks for chiming in.
33:44
Thanks for being patient. I appreciate you listening.
33:45
Thank you. Yeah.
33:47
Thanks guys. Yep, good to talk to you.
33:48
All right, we'll take your time out.
33:49
Trends, plays of the day. Our next Miller in Condon, it is
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Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trends, Plays of the day, Circus
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couple of minutes. John wants to chime in.
34:04
He's been patient holding through the break.
34:06
Hi, John. What's on your mind?
34:09
Hi, I missed the Packers segment a short time ago and I wanted to
34:14
find out what Finnegan said and I'd like to see what you 2
34:17
gentlemen think about the Packers for this year.
34:19
All right, John, appreciate the call.
34:22
You said a trend. I think you're spot on.
34:24
It's the widest range of that I can I can envision in the NFL.
34:29
I could see him last yes in the in the north.
34:32
And I could see love taking that next step and with the wider
34:35
Siever group, but they're so banged up right now and I think
34:38
that's what makes it so difficult.
34:40
This is a team. I think we need to wait until
34:42
the 1st week to September to really feel good about it.
34:45
Can. They beat the line.
34:45
I mean, overall, do they play the Lions week When they do, I'm
34:50
not saying that game. Can they finish ahead of the
34:52
Lions? Yeah, I don't know if I can get.
34:54
There both coordinators. Yeah.
34:57
Things start to go the other way.
35:00
I want to see Campbell's messaging when he doesn't have a
35:02
couple adults in the room. Yeah, what?
35:04
The only thing is, is the coordinators were on staff with
35:08
Detroit. Philly went outside the room.
35:10
That's true. The.
35:10
Organization. Kept it internal.
35:13
Kept it internal. Jordan Love, Yes.
35:17
Do you buy him or you do you not?
35:18
Do you not buy? I like Jordan Love.
35:20
I think I like Jordan Love more than most people.
35:22
Not better than JJ McCarthy. We never had this call just yet.
35:28
We gotta get to that. It's maybe tomorrow we'll do it.
35:30
Yeah, we, we haven't touched. On JJ yet what?
35:32
Well. Yeah, I like that defense.
35:35
But do I love it? For the Packers.
35:37
I, I, I'm in like, I'm in like with a lot of components, but
35:41
one in five in the division last year that should have been oh,
35:43
and six. Could have been if no, this
35:45
should have been. You're right.
35:46
Yeah. Speaking of the sayatosis we
35:48
talked about earlier, I think I will have the Packers on the
35:52
fringes of the playoffs when we make our official predictions.
35:56
Will they be? So that's a 10 and. 79 and 8
35:59
Yep, right in that range. Yep.
36:01
I think they're lower than that. I don't love them this year.
36:05
I if I had to go right now I would be Lions, Vikings, toss up
36:10
Bears, Packers. But you know what?
36:13
Bottom for me. Well, I like McCarthy better
36:15
than you. Did you not see that scramble?
36:20
It's like we got Mark Dornowski clips coming up again.
36:23
Yeah, let's make some plays of the day.
36:25
Circus Sports sponsored those. So we went two and two on
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Monday, we went two and two yesterday.
36:30
Okay, so just losing juice day after day.
36:32
Let's take four more picks today, all.
36:36
Baseball. 3 baseball one in the WNBA.
36:39
Let's start with that one. In fact, let's go a different
36:41
order. 830 tip off tonight. The suddenly red hot LVA says
36:46
are. They getting good again.
36:47
They are Asia Wilson's playing at a high level.
36:50
She had the first ever 3020 game in WNBA history a couple of
36:54
games back. I'll leave the 2 1/2 in Vegas,
36:56
Give me Las Vegas in pick #1. To baseball we go.
37:01
I'm going with Horton and the Cubs plus 118.
37:03
Now, I got duped yesterday because I've been brown, yes.
37:08
And instead it was Assad. And you know what I do?
37:10
I fade guys coming off the IL, as I will do tonight in
37:13
Cincinnati, where Hunter Green gets the ball off the IL against
37:17
the Phillies. I will take the Phillies -124
37:20
and then finally a free square. It will happen in New York as
37:24
the Yankees -150 against the Twins.
37:27
These numbers again just become more and more ridiculous.
37:29
Twins. Yankees historically.
37:32
It's Joe Ryan tonight, you know, for your twins.
37:33
That's doesn't matter. It's the Yankees 23 seasons now
37:37
a baseball. The Twins are playing 514
37:40
baseball against everybody else. In all of baseball.
37:43
The last 23 years against the Yankees they are 44 and 125, A
37:49
26% win percentage. Ron Cotton higher 26.9% win
37:55
percentage Paul Milder 25.9 Rocco Bodelli bottom of the heap
38:00
23.7%. Brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal.
38:05
All right, that's going to do it for us.
38:06
We will be back tomorrow, but up next they're coming off the
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