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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, May 5 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday happy Sinco de Mayo. This is check
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Speaker 1: Bars happy hour. And now a woman who's willing to
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Speaker 1: be a sideline reporter at your football game or wedding
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Speaker 1: or birthday or Raymond hearing ashlyns some of them. Isn't
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Speaker 1: so bad that I work hard and ask for opportunities
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Speaker 1: and everyone wants to give me crap about it? Thank you, Jeff.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna give me somewhere someday. Hey, Look, the more
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Speaker 1: reps you can get, schlemn than you're a perfect example
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Speaker 1: of take every opportunity you can get, even weddings. So yes,
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Speaker 1: you can call me. Thank you, Joe. Welcome to hearing
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Speaker 1: in there too, Like give me a break. That might
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Speaker 1: be one of your best job. I gotta say that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that was good, all right, high praise. Don't give him anymore, ammo.
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Speaker 1: He loves this, especially when I'm hosting. He says, it
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Speaker 1: brings me a humble that's good. That's good. He loves
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Speaker 1: to bring me down, you know, I mean. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour at ten ten XL Jaguars dot Com,
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Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube JP Shotter told me to say all of
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Speaker 1: these things. That happy hour is on JP is on
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Speaker 1: a very much well earned vacation. He has earned it.
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Speaker 1: After draft coverage and Jeff, we had a lot to
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Speaker 1: talk about today we do. It was what one week
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Speaker 1: ago today that the draft was kicked off and Travon
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Speaker 1: Walker was the first overall pick of the draft. So
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Speaker 1: at uh an exciting. Always the draft always represents hope
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Speaker 1: and UH and for a franchise that has had difficulty,
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Speaker 1: as this franchise has it, this is the time of
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Speaker 1: year that you like to have hope restored because you
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Speaker 1: have all these prospects coming in and that's the beauty
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Speaker 1: of the draft. For years, it was the only thing
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Speaker 1: that teams had to look forward to to improving with.
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Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine that not having free agency,
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Speaker 1: Like back in the day, there used to be no
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Speaker 1: free agency, and so the draft represented the only hope
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Speaker 1: at getting better. Yeah, the Jaguars certainly need free agency,
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Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side of the ball. And that
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Speaker 1: leads us to what's coming up on Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: It's a draft recap. Five out of seven draft picks
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Speaker 1: on the defensive sides. We'll talk all about that and
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Speaker 1: what this defense is gonna look like. Moving over to offense,
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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson got a contract extension this week. What does
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Speaker 1: that mean for the offensive line and how good do
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Speaker 1: we feel about it? Outside linebacker coach Bill Showey will
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Speaker 1: be joining us here in the studio in a matter
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Speaker 1: of minutes. Going to talk to him a lot about
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Speaker 1: that number one overall pick Trayvon Walker. That's for sure
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Speaker 1: breaking news again this week, the Denver Broncos and the
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars will be playing in London Halloween weekend the season.
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Speaker 1: Very cool matchup between Russell Wilson and Trevor Lawrence. And
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Speaker 1: finally we go around the NFL and let's go back
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Speaker 1: to recapping the NFL draft. Five out of seven players
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Speaker 1: drafted on defense, like we said, and very happy Mike
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Speaker 1: Codwell this week, that's for sure. Defensive coordinator and coach
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Speaker 1: Peterson said, Yeah, this three four, it's going to be
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Speaker 1: fun to scheme against. When I scheme defense, you know,
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Speaker 1: the three four becomes a little bit of a challenge
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Speaker 1: to to go up against. It becomes a little harder
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Speaker 1: to run the football, it becomes some protection issues. And
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Speaker 1: so for me, that's as the head coach, that's what
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Speaker 1: I want on defense. I want complexity. I want complexity,
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Speaker 1: but at the same time it's simple for the players
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Speaker 1: to learn if if that makes sense UM, and so
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Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted that for our defense and guys
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Speaker 1: that Um have had success. I mean, he just came
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Speaker 1: off of a World championship in Tampa and he's he's
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Speaker 1: seen it at a high level. He's worked under some
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Speaker 1: really good coordinators, Todd Bowles, Jim Johnson, he played for
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Speaker 1: a Jim, the late Jim Johnson and guys like that.
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Speaker 1: So you know, for me, it was an easy, an
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Speaker 1: easy plug and play with Mike to come in and
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Speaker 1: start that process. That was head coach Doug Peterson on
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Speaker 1: this defense and what will look like as they start
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Speaker 1: to scheme now that they have the personnel set in place.
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Speaker 1: Five editions on the draft on defense, Mike call Well
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Speaker 1: was a gidey man going down the hallway as he
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Speaker 1: should be. Well, I think it's interesting and that Uh,
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Speaker 1: sometimes I think we all can get a little ahead
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Speaker 1: of it sometimes, so sometimes you gotta kind of slow
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Speaker 1: down and say, Okay, what can they do? Because they
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Speaker 1: did add a lot of different pieces in the draft
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Speaker 1: with Travon Walker and Devin Lloyd, Chad Movement and those
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Speaker 1: three guys on defense out of the first four picks
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Speaker 1: that they had, and these guys are expected to be
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Speaker 1: starters and some capacity, uh Luke, Fortner and uh Connor
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Speaker 1: on offense, expected to be contributors on offense maybe in
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Speaker 1: some capacity. But obviously when you have three out of
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Speaker 1: the top four picks on the defensive side of the
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Speaker 1: ball and you didn't expend a ton of resources and
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Speaker 1: free agency on that side of the ball, this is
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Speaker 1: where the improvement is expected from. And and coach Peterson
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Speaker 1: talked about complexity and trying to be multiple and do
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Speaker 1: different things on defense, and that's great, and that's that's
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Speaker 1: I think what you would like to be down the road,
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Speaker 1: because at first you need to do a couple of things. One,
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Speaker 1: you need to install a completely new defense so you
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Speaker 1: you can't get overly complex. And then you need to
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Speaker 1: find out, most importantly, what these two players do best.
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Speaker 1: And you're not going to find that out. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good idea from watching them on
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Speaker 1: college film, but in a lot of cases, once you
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Speaker 1: get to the National Football League level, because it's a
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Speaker 1: different game, you actually have to see them do it
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Speaker 1: before you can trust it as a coach before you say, okay,
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Speaker 1: we can put him in possession in position X to
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Speaker 1: do X because we've seen him do that. And so
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Speaker 1: that's I think gonna take some time. And with young players,
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Speaker 1: sometimes you get there, sometimes you don't. And so I
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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be an interesting process because it's always
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Speaker 1: a process when you're talking about the young players being
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Speaker 1: inserted into the lineup. Yeah, and a plan is great,
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Speaker 1: but we always hear, hey, we have to execute that plan,
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Speaker 1: and we'll ask Bill should we this outside linebackers coach,
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Speaker 1: But all the talk is okay, Traymon Walkers over the tile.
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Speaker 1: That's so great in college, but now you want to
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Speaker 1: get him good at one position and everyone's asking, okay, well,
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Speaker 1: what's that position going to be? Well? And it was
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Speaker 1: interesting to me watching all the pressers after the pick
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Speaker 1: and then the press conference when Trayvon Walker was introduced
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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and you had Trent Balky and Doug Peterson
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Speaker 1: up there at the at the podium with him, and
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Speaker 1: so you're you're listening, you're trying to to to search
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Speaker 1: for keywords of what they say. You know, is he
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Speaker 1: going to be in a two point stands? He's he
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Speaker 1: gonna have his hand in the ground. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a defensive end. He's gonna be an outside linebacker. And
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Speaker 1: it was interesting in that I thought that I heard
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Speaker 1: Trent say, you know, two point stance, okay, and then
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Speaker 1: I've heard Trayvon Walker asked about what he thinks he
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Speaker 1: does best and he said five technique, okay. Well five
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Speaker 1: technique is in a three point stance and that's not
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Speaker 1: a two point stand. So I think it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: interesting to see where home is gonna be for him.
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Speaker 1: I think he can be very good at a lot
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Speaker 1: of different positions and is he a A lot of
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Speaker 1: people say, well, why do you want somebody who may
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Speaker 1: take time to develop? Well, the reality is is that
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Speaker 1: you're looking and projecting a player no matter what you do,
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Speaker 1: whether the player is considered safe or not, You're you're
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Speaker 1: projecting everything. You're you're trying to figure out where he's
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Speaker 1: going to be and what he can be. And with Walker,
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's any different now. Early on, I
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Speaker 1: think you're gonna want to make sure that you get
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Speaker 1: him comfortable in one position, and then once he gets
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Speaker 1: comfortable in one position, then then you say okay, let's
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Speaker 1: open up some more things for him to do because
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Speaker 1: we know that he can do it because he did
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Speaker 1: it at Georgia, right, And everyone's saying, do you feel
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Speaker 1: as though, like, yes, he can do all of these things,
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Speaker 1: but say he we try him at that one position,
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Speaker 1: he's really good at it. Do you leave him there
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Speaker 1: and don't bother with it? Well you can, But I mean,
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Speaker 1: first of all, the one thing I will say Achelon
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Speaker 1: about the picks, and especially Travon Walker and and Lloyd,
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Speaker 1: these two guys are our top end individuals. There's no
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Speaker 1: arguing that. That's not a debate. We and debate where
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Speaker 1: they should have been picked and how good they're gonna
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Speaker 1: be and how good they were at their prospective colleges.
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Speaker 1: But the reality is these are a plus people and
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Speaker 1: so you always have a chance when you have a
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Speaker 1: plus people. And that's the most important thing. Good families,
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Speaker 1: good background, and now that you bring somebody in, okay,
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Speaker 1: let's get them comfortable. And then the more hard working,
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Speaker 1: the more dedicated they are, the better the person is.
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Speaker 1: I think the more complexities or the more things you
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Speaker 1: can ask them to do because they're dedicated to their craft.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's something that's been a little bit
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Speaker 1: different than we've seen here in the past. And I'm
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Speaker 1: not trying to be a jerk, but I mean the
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Speaker 1: under previous years we have seen some players that have
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Speaker 1: come in here that have probably not been properly vetted.
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Speaker 1: And when you're picking somebody with of that magnitude when
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Speaker 1: I say the magnitude, when you're picking somebody high, you
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that they're a number number one
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Speaker 1: quality people first and know. And I think that Trent
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Speaker 1: Balky put a premium Doug Peterson put a premium on
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Speaker 1: this in this draft because from everything that I have read,
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Speaker 1: everything that I have heard, these are top end individuals. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we had them in the building Friday and Saturday, and
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Speaker 1: they were fantastic, so easy to work with. Their families
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Speaker 1: were great Sea that's always and they're always great because
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Speaker 1: they're so excited, but you definitely can sense what a
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Speaker 1: person is like that first day and they were both
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Speaker 1: so awesome. And you mentioned devn Lloyd. Trent Bulky on
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Speaker 1: Sirius XM Radio explained why they traded up to get that.
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Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd was way up on our board. We felt
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Speaker 1: he was one of the top fifteen players in the draft,
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Speaker 1: and you know, we were having a little bit of
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Speaker 1: trouble getting back in, but I can't remember. I think
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Speaker 1: at pick twenty three's when we decided. Actually it was
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Speaker 1: twenty two, I believe we when quay Walker went off
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Speaker 1: the board. We just didn't feel that Devin was going
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Speaker 1: to make it the thirty three and we felt it
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Speaker 1: we needed to get back yet if if we didn't
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Speaker 1: get back in, we're gonna have to go another direction.
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Speaker 1: Really didn't want to go another direction. To did what
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Speaker 1: we could to get up in there. Trent Backy told
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Speaker 1: us in his post draft presser that they were a
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Speaker 1: little worried about the New England Patriots with the twenty
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Speaker 1: one pick, and once Lloyd got past that, all it
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Speaker 1: took was just looking at Doug Peterson and Doug said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's do it. I love you bring up the Patriots.
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Speaker 1: And then what did the Patriots do? They drafted a
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Speaker 1: guard from some small school and everything. What did they do?
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Speaker 1: That's why let's go hurry up? Yeah. So so, I look,
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Speaker 1: I really like the selection of Lloyd. When you watch
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Speaker 1: the film on him, he can do anything that any
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Speaker 1: linebacker can do. He can be a run stuffer. He
10:47
Speaker 1: can be an athletic blitzer. He can cover, he can
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Speaker 1: run sideline the sideline. He's got great energy, and I
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Speaker 1: think the best thing that I like about him is
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Speaker 1: his leadership. When you listen to him talk, you just
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Speaker 1: listen and you you kind of gravitate towards him. And
11:05
Speaker 1: those are the kind of people that you want. Those
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Speaker 1: are the kind of people that you want in front
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Speaker 1: of the huddle, which linebackers are in front of the huddle.
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Speaker 1: So from that aspect and what he meant to the
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Speaker 1: the program of Utah this past year with some of
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Speaker 1: the things that, uh, it is pretty amazing. And so
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Speaker 1: kudos to him as an individual and looking forward to
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Speaker 1: him be a leader. Yes, another one that seems like
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Speaker 1: a really just great person overall. For sure, you gotta
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Speaker 1: have character counts, and when you're trying to to change
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Speaker 1: a culture, so to speak, and we've heard that term
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Speaker 1: a lot, it takes people of strong character to change culture.
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Speaker 1: And so I think with the first two picks, they've
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Speaker 1: hit hit right home. Totally agree home runs coming up
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy our outside linebackers coach Bill Shoey joins
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Speaker 1: the program Stay with us here on the Jaguars Digital
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Speaker 1: Network Live. Look at the new football facility is crazy,
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Speaker 1: how much this has changed, even in a week. I
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Speaker 1: swear I leave the building every day and something else
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Speaker 1: is going up. This is moving really quickly, and everyone
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Speaker 1: is excited, especially coaches, and especially this coach. Outside linebacker
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Speaker 1: coach Bill Shoey joins us now on Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: on ten ten, ex selling Jaguars dot Com coach, Thanks
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Speaker 1: for joining us, Thanks for having me. It's good to
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Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, and that football facility. We're excited about that, right,
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Speaker 1: we are. We're very excited about the football facility that
12:25
Speaker 1: You're right. The progress is happening fast and never fast enough,
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Speaker 1: but we're we are exciting. It's good to see, uh,
12:30
Speaker 1: good to see the guys out there working. So you
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Speaker 1: talk about exciting times, Uh come in, you're a new
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Speaker 1: coach in Jacksonville and you get a couple of picks
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Speaker 1: that are pretty high in the draft. That's got to
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Speaker 1: be pretty exciting. Yeah, it's very exciting. Must be living, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, But yeah, we're excited, uh excited to have
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Speaker 1: the new new guys come in. You know, obviously you've
12:50
Speaker 1: got a couple of weeks here until they can come
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Speaker 1: in so but we're looking forward to that here in
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Speaker 1: a few weeks, get them on the field and get
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Speaker 1: them maclimated with the team. I think one of the
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Speaker 1: questions that I've gotten asked the most since the draft
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Speaker 1: has happened is, Jeff, where do you see Travon Walker
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Speaker 1: lining up at? And my honest answer is I don't know.
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Speaker 1: And that's my question to you is where do you
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Speaker 1: see him lining up? I mean, you've got two first
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Speaker 1: round picks. One of them was a linebacker, the other
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Speaker 1: one played so many different positions. That seems to be
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Speaker 1: the question of the last week. Am I allowed to answer?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, absolutely, But as he mentioned, I
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Speaker 1: think he mentioned it that, you know, we're gonna try
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Speaker 1: to let him settle into one spot and then from there. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: the versatility is important. It's part of the reason why
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Speaker 1: we drafted him, and we're gonna try to utilize that
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Speaker 1: to our advantage at some point in time. But you know,
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Speaker 1: early on, we want him to be able to get
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Speaker 1: comfortable and and get in one spot, and he'll start
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Speaker 1: it outside linebacker and then we'll move from there and uh,
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Speaker 1: coach Carl Wells, you know, he's he's got a lot
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Speaker 1: of plans as we move forward, but you know, out
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Speaker 1: of the gate, he'll he'll be an outside linebacker. Is
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Speaker 1: very excited about this draft. I talked to him. He
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Speaker 1: was like, he talking about the five picks he got
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Speaker 1: and you mentioned that outside linebacker. So say, Trayvon Walker
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Speaker 1: kills it and he's really good an outside linebacker. Is
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Speaker 1: that it does he stay there and that versatility we
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Speaker 1: might not see all of it. No, I think at
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Speaker 1: some point in time. Again, I don't want to speak
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Speaker 1: from Mike, but at some point in time, I I
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Speaker 1: would guess that we're gonna use every ounce of versatility
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Speaker 1: that he has. I mean, but but it's all going
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Speaker 1: to be in due time, and part of that's gonna
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Speaker 1: be on him. The faster he gets accomated, the more
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Speaker 1: we can kind of spread things out for him and
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Speaker 1: and put him in matchup situations that might be to
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Speaker 1: his advantage. Until then, it's gonna come down to the
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Speaker 1: mental grind of the game and of the position and
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Speaker 1: learning the fundamentals of playing on the edge on a
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Speaker 1: on a regular basis. And you know, as as soon
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Speaker 1: as he can get up to speed on that, the
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Speaker 1: more we can kind of utilize his versatility. The draft
14:48
Speaker 1: process is so much more involved than what it was
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Speaker 1: twenty years ago, to where you have combined interviews, you
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Speaker 1: have players coming into your building to talk to them.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that you guys took advantage with both
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Speaker 1: of these opportunities with your two first round picks, because
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Speaker 1: when you sit there and you look at what I
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Speaker 1: was talking about before we went to a break, before
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Speaker 1: you came on about character counts and these two guys,
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Speaker 1: these seem to be two individuals that I'm sure you're
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Speaker 1: looking very much forward having the ability to coach. Yeah. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: they're very you know, they got from what I can
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Speaker 1: what I know about Devon, which I don't know him
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Speaker 1: as well, because coach Gilbert he'll you know, he'll he's
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Speaker 1: got versatility as well, and that's gonna be a key.
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Speaker 1: We have a bunch of guys on this defense, not
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Speaker 1: just that, not just the two young guys. You know,
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Speaker 1: you think about smooth, you think about Art and Key
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Speaker 1: amongst others. But the versatility is going to be interesting
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Speaker 1: for a coach callwell, how he's gonna move guys around
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Speaker 1: and make it hard for offenses to try to I
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Speaker 1: d people and and know who might be coming, who
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Speaker 1: might not be coming in pressure situations and those type
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Speaker 1: of things. But from Trayvon standpoint, you know, the character
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Speaker 1: was an important thing, you know, but there was this
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Speaker 1: this draft was loaded in the edge position. The guys
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Speaker 1: I talked to there were a lot out of really
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Speaker 1: good character guys. I mean, that was something. It was.
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Speaker 1: That's part of what I enjoy about making the trip
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Speaker 1: to Indian talking with the guys. You get to know
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Speaker 1: a bunch of a bunch of the players. You go
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Speaker 1: to pro days and and you you kind of you
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Speaker 1: get a relationship started with some guys and then and
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Speaker 1: then at that point it may stop and you might
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Speaker 1: just see him before the game or after a game,
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Speaker 1: or what it might be. In other cases like Trayvon,
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Speaker 1: and he gets drafted here and now I get to
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Speaker 1: you know, get allowed that relationship to grow deeper in
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Speaker 1: the trust part, but you want to get started with
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Speaker 1: that as soon as possible. And he seems like a
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Speaker 1: very high character guy, humble guy um confident though humble
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Speaker 1: but confident, and and and a guy that it seems
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Speaker 1: really willing and eager to get to work. That's a
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Speaker 1: very good balance humble and confident, not arrogant, right, exactly exactly.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned the combine and it was interesting General manager
16:52
Speaker 1: Trent balky Kemp mentioning it in his post scape or
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Speaker 1: his press conference, is how the coaches were so involved
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Speaker 1: in this pre draft process. So how were you involved
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Speaker 1: beside the combine and all of this. Yeah, yeah, I
17:03
Speaker 1: believe he used the word transparent a lot as well,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and the process. You had a lot
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Speaker 1: of people involved in the process, and so, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I've been I've been coaching for a long time, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I've been blessed to have many years in
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Speaker 1: the NFL. This is my third NFL team, and this
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Speaker 1: this was a very transparent process, and you know it
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Speaker 1: was there were many meetings, many conversations, and so you know,
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Speaker 1: I I felt involved in the process, and you know
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Speaker 1: I didn't. It doesn't mean that decisions are always easy,
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Speaker 1: but it was good to see everybody kind of come
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Speaker 1: together on on on their thoughts. Didn't mean that it
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Speaker 1: was always you know, there was It's good when you
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Speaker 1: have a healthy debates sometimes, but then as the as
17:42
Speaker 1: the process goes on, it's good when everybody you have
17:44
Speaker 1: healthy debates and then everybody gets on the same page.
17:47
Speaker 1: And I thought that was good with the procedure here
17:49
Speaker 1: and Trent led that off with with Doug and and Mike,
17:51
Speaker 1: and you know, I thought it was very it was
17:53
Speaker 1: a very good process. There's so many different pieces that
17:57
Speaker 1: that make a puzzle, and what we're talking about here
18:00
Speaker 1: is the new pieces. But there's some pieces that are
18:03
Speaker 1: already here. And you've had the opportunity to talk and
18:06
Speaker 1: to work with some of these guys already. What are
18:09
Speaker 1: some of the impressions that have been made upon you
18:11
Speaker 1: with the guys that are here. The guys that are
18:14
Speaker 1: here are very eager to get going, you can tell.
18:17
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a couple of rough seasons down here,
18:20
Speaker 1: and and and it's it's not something that's kind of
18:23
Speaker 1: swept under the rug like it's out in the open.
18:25
Speaker 1: Guys talk about it. They're using it I think as fuel,
18:28
Speaker 1: as motivation. They're open to new ideas. I think they
18:32
Speaker 1: also understand, like one of the things we try to
18:33
Speaker 1: get accomplished in the outside back room is we I'm
18:36
Speaker 1: looking for their ideas. I want their thoughts. I want
18:39
Speaker 1: them to challenge some things. You know, trust has earned
18:42
Speaker 1: over time. You know, trust is gonna be earned when
18:44
Speaker 1: when when they're taught something and they get six success
18:48
Speaker 1: shows up on the field based off of those techniques.
18:50
Speaker 1: Fundamental as a scheme. Um. So that back and forth
18:54
Speaker 1: that we have in the room, you know, these are
18:56
Speaker 1: grown men. They're young men, but they're grown men. It's
18:58
Speaker 1: good to have that dial log. You know. The flip
19:01
Speaker 1: side of that is when you're talking a bunch, you know,
19:04
Speaker 1: sometimes the efficiency of the meetings go down because you're
19:06
Speaker 1: back and forth. Lest so at the end of the
19:07
Speaker 1: day there's a chain of command. But I think the
19:10
Speaker 1: dialogue is healthy. I think it's good when they're talking
19:12
Speaker 1: because they're asking questions and and you probably know, like
19:15
Speaker 1: the best defenses that I've ever been around are the
19:17
Speaker 1: ones that are usually most vocal. And how important was
19:21
Speaker 1: it for this pre draft process, in this this draft
19:23
Speaker 1: as a whole to get Josh Allen some help. Yeah, well,
19:26
Speaker 1: you can never have enough or too many good players.
19:30
Speaker 1: And uh, and I think that's what's great, you know,
19:32
Speaker 1: from this draft adding a guy like Trayvon we you know,
19:35
Speaker 1: we'll have an undrafted freeg and added to the room.
19:36
Speaker 1: And you already have talented guys like Josh there, and
19:39
Speaker 1: Josh is working hard, Calevan is working hard. You have
19:42
Speaker 1: Jordan's in there, and then Jamir in the outside back
19:45
Speaker 1: of room. We've had smooth moving around, a little bit
19:47
Speaker 1: alre and key moving around. You've got guys been moving around.
19:49
Speaker 1: So all that stuff is good. Um and and iron
19:53
Speaker 1: sharpens iron, and the more the more you can create
19:56
Speaker 1: competition within within your own building, whether it's whether it's
19:59
Speaker 1: in by position group, within the position group, from position
20:02
Speaker 1: group to position group, within the defense, in the offense
20:05
Speaker 1: and the defense. As long as everybody's moving in the
20:07
Speaker 1: same direction, I think it's a positive to talk about
20:10
Speaker 1: the relationship that you have with Doug Peterson. There's a
20:13
Speaker 1: little familiarity going back a few years, isn't there. Yeah,
20:16
Speaker 1: So you know it's I was a young intern when
20:19
Speaker 1: Doug was signed by Philadelphia, so I started on My
20:22
Speaker 1: first internship in Philly was in so um I intern.
20:27
Speaker 1: Doug was was the quarterback there, which he probably doesn't
20:30
Speaker 1: remember me at that time, but I remember him coming
20:32
Speaker 1: in and then and then you know, I I I
20:36
Speaker 1: was afforded some opportunities. I worked hard, afforded some opportunities
20:38
Speaker 1: by coach Read in Philadelphia, to stay there for ten years,
20:42
Speaker 1: and through that. Through those ten years, I had a
20:44
Speaker 1: couple of different jobs and moved around and just continue
20:47
Speaker 1: to work work with some really really good coaches, learned
20:49
Speaker 1: a lot one of Mike call Well um. But but
20:53
Speaker 1: Doug also was one of those coaches that came in
20:55
Speaker 1: after he retired when in you know, coaching, and then
20:59
Speaker 1: got into to the NFL, and so Doug was Doug
21:02
Speaker 1: was coaching on offense when I was coaching on defense
21:04
Speaker 1: there for a couple of years and we overlapped. It's funny,
21:07
Speaker 1: everyone says when when he first got hired, Everyone's like,
21:09
Speaker 1: you're gonna love this guy. He's such a good guy.
21:12
Speaker 1: But he he really is a breath of fresh air
21:14
Speaker 1: in this building. And everyone says how relatable he isn't
21:16
Speaker 1: It's funny. I was walking down the hallway the other
21:18
Speaker 1: day and he's talking to Brandon Sheriff about turkey hunting,
21:21
Speaker 1: and it's just like he's just such a normal person
21:23
Speaker 1: who's just a really good football coach. It seems, well,
21:26
Speaker 1: it's it's it's great to be a good football coach.
21:29
Speaker 1: It's important to have good people around and that's part
21:31
Speaker 1: of the culture, and that was part of the high
21:33
Speaker 1: character guys that we drafted. And you and you hear
21:35
Speaker 1: those themes and they just it's the world is around,
21:37
Speaker 1: and it's it's cyclical and and good people, good coaches,
21:41
Speaker 1: you know, good players, hopefully good results and and that's
21:45
Speaker 1: that's the thought process, with a lot of hard work
21:47
Speaker 1: in between and and some of that back and forth
21:50
Speaker 1: that we talked about too, you know, and and uh,
21:52
Speaker 1: you know, Iron Sharpen's iron, but you've gotta be able
21:54
Speaker 1: to you gotta be able to stretch and pool and
21:56
Speaker 1: and grind and sweat and all that other stuff that
21:59
Speaker 1: you know goes in to be and a good football team. Okay,
22:01
Speaker 1: so iron Sharpen's iron. But the boy, the weather certainly
22:05
Speaker 1: does make it feel a lot better when you're doing
22:07
Speaker 1: all of that. So last year you in Chicago right
22:10
Speaker 1: as a coach, and now you got your family down
22:12
Speaker 1: here in Florida and Jackson all they gotta be loving it. Yeah, obviously, Uh,
22:17
Speaker 1: the weather is great. And the one thing Coach Towns
22:19
Speaker 1: that and I who were in Chicago last year as
22:21
Speaker 1: well as Chris Jackson was in was in Chicago, and
22:24
Speaker 1: Coach Towns and I were saying that the one thing
22:26
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do this year is complained about the heat.
22:29
Speaker 1: So you can hold me too that it's gonna be
22:30
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I know that's gonna be the case. I
22:34
Speaker 1: know I'm naive by saying that, but but after being
22:37
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and I love Chicago is a great city
22:39
Speaker 1: and a great team. I love the players there and everything.
22:42
Speaker 1: But great restaurants, great food, just like Philadelphia by the way,
22:46
Speaker 1: and uh, you know everything. But we're looking forward. The
22:50
Speaker 1: family is looking forward to a fresh start. I'm looking
22:52
Speaker 1: forward to a fresh start. There's good people down here
22:54
Speaker 1: on the staff and so um you. We're excited, and
22:57
Speaker 1: the palm trees and the beach always helped to I'm
22:59
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna ask you about that heat thing again.
23:02
Speaker 1: About August. I know it, that's okay, time hate it. It
23:06
Speaker 1: It gets hot for a while once you get into September.
23:10
Speaker 1: You know, you're so used to that fall, that hint
23:11
Speaker 1: of fall. It ain't happening in September. About October, it's
23:16
Speaker 1: gonna happen, all right, It's gonna together. Yes, we make
23:20
Speaker 1: it work somehow, someway, coach, do we thank you so
23:22
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23:24
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23:59
Speaker 1: wanted to keep, you know, some of the staples around
24:01
Speaker 1: just to kind of build around and kind of you know,
24:04
Speaker 1: start started to form that what we want to ultimately
24:07
Speaker 1: make get done here so long. I mean, I think
24:09
Speaker 1: it's just a great thing that's keeping guys around, and
24:11
Speaker 1: we brought in kind of home grown um myself, Josh
24:14
Speaker 1: Ship or whoever else we decide we'll keep around. Left
24:17
Speaker 1: tackle Cam Robinson a very happy guy this week, getting
24:20
Speaker 1: a contract extension, very well earned. Welcome back to Jaguars
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Speaker 1: Happy Are, Intent ten Excel and Jaguars dot Com. Ashlan
24:27
Speaker 1: Sullivan and Jeff log I'm in here with you this week.
24:29
Speaker 1: JP Shatterick on a much during vacation and Cam Robinson
24:33
Speaker 1: big news, Jeff. We saw this coming. It was a
24:35
Speaker 1: work in progress and we were wondering, Okay, what's taken
24:37
Speaker 1: so long, when's it gonna happen. Finally happened. You have
24:40
Speaker 1: your guy, your set, and now there's some key peace
24:42
Speaker 1: down the offensive line. You feel pretty good about. Yeah.
24:45
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were kind of curious
24:48
Speaker 1: as to what would happen with Cam and would that
24:52
Speaker 1: impact what the Jaguars do with that first overall pick
24:55
Speaker 1: and so um I said this a couple of weeks ago,
24:59
Speaker 1: that the the starting point for Cam had to be
25:02
Speaker 1: the franchise number this year plus what the expected increase
25:05
Speaker 1: was gonna be with franchise tag next year. That's kind
25:08
Speaker 1: of where you were starting that from a guaranteed money standpoint.
25:11
Speaker 1: And I think it's a fair deal for both sides.
25:14
Speaker 1: When I say that that, uh, many people were expecting
25:18
Speaker 1: the market to climb much higher for left tackles this offseason,
25:21
Speaker 1: but it really didn't. With the Armstead deal not being
25:25
Speaker 1: as lucrative. I think that that brought some of the
25:28
Speaker 1: reality down for the Cam Robinson contract. And I think
25:31
Speaker 1: it's a good contract for the team, and uh, it
25:34
Speaker 1: gives them stability as far as Okay, we know who
25:37
Speaker 1: are left tackle now is going to be and now
25:39
Speaker 1: we have two guys that are going to compete on
25:41
Speaker 1: the right side, and then we'll just figure out how
25:44
Speaker 1: things work out from there. So that's the way you
25:46
Speaker 1: wanted though them. You know, you keep hearing coaches, including
25:49
Speaker 1: Bill should We, who we just had in the seat
25:51
Speaker 1: right here, talk about iron sharp AND's iron and that's
25:54
Speaker 1: when you get more competition in the room. It makes
25:57
Speaker 1: everybody better. And so bringing Cam back, even though many
26:01
Speaker 1: people are like, oh you just move on, you put
26:03
Speaker 1: Walker a little in the left tackle and go find
26:05
Speaker 1: a right tackle. Well that's all easier said than done.
26:08
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's better to keep some of the components you got,
26:10
Speaker 1: continue to add to it, allow the competition to work
26:13
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, And that was a point that Doug
26:15
Speaker 1: Peterson me to us at the combine and he was like, hey,
26:18
Speaker 1: I get the narrative, and I get the narrative is
26:19
Speaker 1: the Jaguars at times don't keep good players. They train
26:22
Speaker 1: them away or they don't get to that second contract.
26:24
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm trying to change that narrative.
26:26
Speaker 1: And he talked to us about Cam Robinson and Josh
26:29
Speaker 1: Ellen at the combine. So you're kind of seeing this
26:31
Speaker 1: trend start, like they're recognizing talent and saying, we got
26:34
Speaker 1: to keep it in this building. Well, and Cam still
26:37
Speaker 1: has to get better, and I mean this is not
26:40
Speaker 1: a I don't think he's a finished product. I think
26:42
Speaker 1: he can still get a lot better. I think his
26:44
Speaker 1: technique and some of his fundamentals need to get better.
26:48
Speaker 1: And I think his new offensive line coach is gonna
26:51
Speaker 1: be I think a big help to him, because coaching matters,
26:55
Speaker 1: and the more discipline, the fundum mentals and footwork become.
27:02
Speaker 1: To give you an example, accellent years ago when I
27:06
Speaker 1: was playing defensive end and was a young defensive end.
27:09
Speaker 1: I'll never forget going against an older Mike Ken of
27:13
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons, and Mike was in your eighteen or
27:17
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I mean it was a lot of
27:19
Speaker 1: one eighteen, but it might have been. I mean it
27:20
Speaker 1: was long, you know, long tooth and uh and I
27:24
Speaker 1: just remember looking at the physical abilities of Mike at
27:26
Speaker 1: that time saying I got him, Yeah, you know, I
27:29
Speaker 1: got him. But Mike was impeccable about every step that
27:35
Speaker 1: he took, was so disciplined and so where it needed
27:39
Speaker 1: to be. That his sets and his fundamentals cut off
27:44
Speaker 1: a lot of possibilities for you as a defensive player
27:48
Speaker 1: just because he was on point, not because he was big, fast, strong, tough,
27:53
Speaker 1: because his fundamentals were there. And I think that that's
27:57
Speaker 1: something that Cam needs to strive to get words. Because
28:01
Speaker 1: he has the athletic ability, he has the physical makeup,
28:05
Speaker 1: he's a good run blocker, he's tough as nails, but
28:08
Speaker 1: the fundamentals need to get better for him to take
28:11
Speaker 1: that next up. And I think he can take that
28:13
Speaker 1: next up. I think they said that's when you know,
28:15
Speaker 1: that's why they franchise atacked him as they saw potential
28:17
Speaker 1: and they saw he could get there. So it's definitely interesting.
28:20
Speaker 1: And then they draft Luke Fortner and it was funny.
28:22
Speaker 1: We had Tyler Shatley on Jaguary's Drive Time a couple
28:25
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and Tyler Shatley and I go to
28:27
Speaker 1: the same gym, so we see each other all the time.
28:28
Speaker 1: And every time I see me go as Ashland, you
28:31
Speaker 1: bench pressed with him and everything. Yeah, we've bench about
28:33
Speaker 1: the same, so we've really been training together. And he
28:36
Speaker 1: tells me at the gym He's like, I'm training because
28:38
Speaker 1: what if a draft pick comes in and sure enough,
28:42
Speaker 1: Luke Forartner comes right on, And so I'm really curious
28:45
Speaker 1: how that shakes out. I'm pulling from my gym buddy.
28:47
Speaker 1: But Luke Forwartner seems to have that upside too well.
28:49
Speaker 1: He's first team All SEC at the Powerhouse University of Kentucky,
28:55
Speaker 1: Okay teammates a former teammates with Josh Allen. The reality
29:00
Speaker 1: is is that he's a good football player. I think
29:03
Speaker 1: he's got to work on some things when it comes
29:06
Speaker 1: to getting to that second level. Some of that stuff
29:10
Speaker 1: is not as easy. But a good in line blocker
29:14
Speaker 1: and uh, I like him. He's got size, but he's
29:18
Speaker 1: got a lot to work on. And it's it's hard
29:22
Speaker 1: to overcome experience when you're a young player like that.
29:26
Speaker 1: And Tyler Shatley is a good football player. He is
29:28
Speaker 1: a good football player, and he has starting caliber abilities
29:31
Speaker 1: and uh, he's been around the block. He knows all
29:34
Speaker 1: the tricks of the trade. And by the way, Ashley,
29:36
Speaker 1: you're not bench pressing with him because one of the
29:39
Speaker 1: strongest guys that there is in the weight room. He
29:41
Speaker 1: is estimate, he is ye know, he's one of the
29:44
Speaker 1: strongest guys. Now he's you know, he's a big, strong guy.
29:47
Speaker 1: So so I think it's gonna take a little time
29:49
Speaker 1: for Wartner. But again that's good for the room. Competition
29:52
Speaker 1: is good make everybody better. Yeah, you mentioned competition, and
29:55
Speaker 1: this is the question I had for you. Um with
29:57
Speaker 1: Chad Muma and I was talking to him and he
29:59
Speaker 1: and he really it's a doubt how intelligent he is
30:01
Speaker 1: in his communication skills. And he brought up so many
30:04
Speaker 1: examples of when he wore the green dot in different situations.
30:08
Speaker 1: In my head when I'm talking to him like all right,
30:09
Speaker 1: that's your starter, that's that's your play collar. And then
30:12
Speaker 1: I was talking to John and Brian like not so fast.
30:14
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's starting right away. That's another
30:16
Speaker 1: position group where it's it's really interesting how this is
30:18
Speaker 1: going to shake out. Yeah, and just to explain the
30:21
Speaker 1: green dot because some people don't know what that means.
30:23
Speaker 1: In the NFL, a defensive player or an offensive player,
30:27
Speaker 1: if it has a player to coach communication set in
30:30
Speaker 1: the helmet, that's what the green dot signifies. So lets
30:33
Speaker 1: people know that this guy has that communication ability. And
30:37
Speaker 1: so green dot typically for on the defensive side of
30:39
Speaker 1: the ball as a linebacker, and he's the guy that's
30:41
Speaker 1: calling plays in front of the huddle, so he's a
30:43
Speaker 1: leader and he can get people lined up. He can
30:46
Speaker 1: handle handle the added responsibility, and that's what Movement has
30:49
Speaker 1: been in college. He's been a very highly productive player.
30:51
Speaker 1: He's kind of a prototypical linebacker, shoulders, square, of tough.
30:57
Speaker 1: When he gets there, he knocks Pete back. I think
31:01
Speaker 1: that was the one thing that really stood out on
31:03
Speaker 1: film with him is that when he struck people, he's
31:06
Speaker 1: big and strong. Now when he's big and strong, he's
31:08
Speaker 1: knocking people back. But he's athletic. He can play multiple downs,
31:12
Speaker 1: I think in the National Football League, I don't think
31:15
Speaker 1: he's a natural blitzer like a like a Lloyd is,
31:19
Speaker 1: but but I think he's he can be a three
31:22
Speaker 1: down linebacker. Where he plays at I think it's gonna
31:25
Speaker 1: be interesting as far as where a Loui Khan is
31:29
Speaker 1: gonna be, where a Lloyd's gonna be, where Muma is
31:32
Speaker 1: gonna be, because typically you got two inside positions, okay,
31:39
Speaker 1: uh you know, and in the outside guys who were
31:42
Speaker 1: talking Josh Allen and a smooth and a Travon Walker. So, uh,
31:48
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see how they
31:51
Speaker 1: line up. It is it isn't. Options are a great thing,
31:54
Speaker 1: coptition and and the other thing, look if if if
31:57
Speaker 1: he's not starting, then and he will be a significant
32:02
Speaker 1: backup and a contributor on special teams, which is a
32:05
Speaker 1: big part of winning to getting your special teams better.
32:09
Speaker 1: And what do you think of Snoop Connor? This was
32:15
Speaker 1: that's you know, he's a guy that doesn't put it
32:18
Speaker 1: this way when he gets into the open field or
32:20
Speaker 1: he sees that you know, or you see him get
32:23
Speaker 1: in the open field what we perceive as the open field.
32:26
Speaker 1: And right there we just saw where he made a
32:29
Speaker 1: defender number eleven miss. He doesn't do that a lot
32:32
Speaker 1: a lot of times. He is just a power guy.
32:35
Speaker 1: And what I love most about watching him is that
32:38
Speaker 1: when you hand him the ball and you need a
32:40
Speaker 1: yard or two, he's gonna get you a yard or two.
32:42
Speaker 1: He and he's a very strong finisher at the goal line,
32:46
Speaker 1: very strong finisher in short yardage. And you have two
32:50
Speaker 1: running backs already in the room that are really good
32:53
Speaker 1: or expected to be good. Because et N still hasn't
32:55
Speaker 1: proven it at the National Football League level because he
32:58
Speaker 1: missed the entirety of his rookie year. We know j
33:01
Speaker 1: Rob can do it, but both of these guys are
33:03
Speaker 1: coming off significant injuries, So how is that going to
33:06
Speaker 1: affect them this year? So adding to that room I
33:09
Speaker 1: think was was gonna happen. I didn't know how it
33:12
Speaker 1: would happen what had happened as a draft pick or
33:14
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent, but I'm glad they added to it.
33:18
Speaker 1: And this is a guy that doesn't have a lot
33:20
Speaker 1: of miles. Okay, mileage matters when it comes to running backs.
33:24
Speaker 1: You don't want to have a guy that that has
33:25
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand miles on the odometer and hasn't had
33:29
Speaker 1: the old changes and all the upgrades throughout his existence.
33:34
Speaker 1: And he's getting to you like damage goods. This is
33:37
Speaker 1: a guy that was in a rotation and he's gonna
33:40
Speaker 1: be fresh and ready to go. Yeah, just like my car,
33:43
Speaker 1: Just like my jeep, I don't take it in for
33:44
Speaker 1: oil change. My dad gets so mad. He's like, oh
33:46
Speaker 1: my god, it's been five thous miles. You don't want
33:49
Speaker 1: that guy. No, you don't want that guy. And and uh,
33:52
Speaker 1: and he's a physical back and and one thing you
33:56
Speaker 1: always look at a lot of these young players that
33:58
Speaker 1: come out of college and they come in the National
34:00
Speaker 1: Football League and you say, Okay, now they're playing with
34:04
Speaker 1: grown men. I'll never forget when I made the jump
34:07
Speaker 1: from college to pros, and the biggest thing that I
34:09
Speaker 1: noticed was we had some guys that were big physically
34:13
Speaker 1: in college at Virginia. And then you go to the
34:16
Speaker 1: locker room in the National Football League or any locker room,
34:18
Speaker 1: and you go, oh my god. I mean, like, the
34:22
Speaker 1: best of the best that you had in college are
34:24
Speaker 1: now everywhere in your locker room in the National Football League.
34:27
Speaker 1: And so you expect guys to take some time to develop,
34:31
Speaker 1: continue to develop physically. Okay, this young man Connor is
34:36
Speaker 1: walking in the building and guys are gonna go, oh yeah,
34:39
Speaker 1: he's ready to go. Physically, Oh yeah, he's he's ready
34:43
Speaker 1: to go. Exciting Draft five at a set in defense,
34:45
Speaker 1: but some key contributions on offense as well. When we
34:48
Speaker 1: come back on Jaguars Happy Hour, around the NFL, lots
34:51
Speaker 1: to talk about a lot of drama going on this week,
34:53
Speaker 1: we'll be back. One of one of my first UM
35:02
Speaker 1: meetings really was with with our our London team and
35:06
Speaker 1: and meeting, meeting all the all the folks that are
35:09
Speaker 1: involved with the trip. And so we we have our
35:11
Speaker 1: our our plan in place and and we're we're ready
35:13
Speaker 1: for you know, for for the trip and obviously the
35:16
Speaker 1: game October. And so you know, it's something you do
35:19
Speaker 1: have to spend some time and think about the travel
35:21
Speaker 1: and getting all your guys a year and equipment and
35:24
Speaker 1: the technology over there, um, you know, as an organization,
35:27
Speaker 1: and and you gotta do it early. And so we've
35:30
Speaker 1: done that with our plan in place and we're just
35:32
Speaker 1: kind of waiting on the week to get here. Hey,
35:35
Speaker 1: Coach Doug Peterson discussing the big news this week. The
35:38
Speaker 1: Jaguars will play the Broncos in London this season, coming
35:41
Speaker 1: up October thirty, Halloween weekend in London. Very cool. Welcome
35:45
Speaker 1: back to Jaguars Happy Hour ont ten, Excel and Jaguars
35:48
Speaker 1: dot Com. Ashland Sullivan and Jeff Lockman here with you
35:52
Speaker 1: this week. This is gonna be a really cool game.
35:54
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson versus Trevor Lawrence talk about an incredible competition
35:59
Speaker 1: for Trevor. Well, first of all, Trevor had great success
36:03
Speaker 1: there last year, big win and beat the Miami offense
36:06
Speaker 1: and the first rookie to ever win over in London.
36:09
Speaker 1: So I think that this is a football team in
36:13
Speaker 1: the Jaguars that organizationally has the experience of going over there,
36:17
Speaker 1: and that helps a lot for for the Denver Broncos.
36:19
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a little new because I think
36:22
Speaker 1: this is the first I think that this year, after
36:28
Speaker 1: the completion of this year, with all the games that
36:30
Speaker 1: will be over in Europe, that every team in the
36:32
Speaker 1: league will have been to Europe. That's at some point
36:35
Speaker 1: after this year. And uh, the first game of the year,
36:38
Speaker 1: I think, what is Tampa in Seattle and that's in Germany,
36:42
Speaker 1: I guess. And that's gonna be a nine thirty game
36:45
Speaker 1: East Coast. That's a six thirty game in Seattle. I
36:48
Speaker 1: can't keep up. Yeah, it's yeah. So it's uh. And
36:52
Speaker 1: I like the nine start, which I wish every Yeah,
36:56
Speaker 1: so I like the morning football games. I don't know
36:58
Speaker 1: if I'd like the sixth third am games for the
37:01
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks fans, but I think it's a great matchup
37:04
Speaker 1: because the Denver Broncos. I mean, the way you look
37:07
Speaker 1: at the Denver Broncos now with them having Russell Wilson
37:12
Speaker 1: has completely changed now you look at them as a contender. Yeah,
37:17
Speaker 1: I mean you really crazy offseason for them, So I
37:20
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great matchup. I think it's
37:22
Speaker 1: gonna be UH And hopefully Trevor takes a big jump
37:26
Speaker 1: this year because you're gonna have to play well at
37:28
Speaker 1: the quarterback position to be able to have a chance
37:32
Speaker 1: to beat a Russell Wilson led football team because he's
37:35
Speaker 1: that good. Yeah, not to mention he hasn Daniel Hackett,
37:38
Speaker 1: who are very familiar with and he's Yeah. He was
37:41
Speaker 1: talking to the Broncos broadcast department this morning we did
37:44
Speaker 1: the podcast about this London game, and I was like,
37:45
Speaker 1: how much do you love them? And They're like, don't
37:47
Speaker 1: even get me started, Like, you guys are gonna love
37:49
Speaker 1: working with him. One of the greatest film room segments
37:54
Speaker 1: that that I've ever had the opportunity to be a
37:57
Speaker 1: part of was with Nathaniel Hackett when we did the UH.
38:02
Speaker 1: I think it was the r p O stuff, the
38:03
Speaker 1: read options stuff, and he took us on the grease
38:07
Speaker 1: board on all the things that can happen and the
38:11
Speaker 1: abilities that you can have with the with that stuff.
38:14
Speaker 1: And uh and it was awesome and I learned so
38:17
Speaker 1: much from him and if he if he has, And
38:20
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think that's very unique about Nathaniel
38:23
Speaker 1: Hackett is that he's got a very unique ability to
38:25
Speaker 1: teach in a very easy way of of making things understandable,
38:31
Speaker 1: which is all about coaching. That's what you're trying to
38:33
Speaker 1: do is get players to understand what you're trying to accomplish.
38:36
Speaker 1: And so I think he'll be very successful. I think
38:38
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and from what I've read, Russell Wilson loves him,
38:41
Speaker 1: and so looking forward to seeing him there and looking
38:45
Speaker 1: forward to the matchup because I think it's a really
38:47
Speaker 1: good matchup, especially for h for the people and the
38:50
Speaker 1: fans over there in London. Yeah, it's um. They were
38:53
Speaker 1: doing a social media segment with Nathaniel Hacking. You mentioned
38:56
Speaker 1: how good he is about being on the film room
38:58
Speaker 1: and everything, and they got going on him explaining a
39:01
Speaker 1: play and I swear because I watched your film rooms
39:04
Speaker 1: and they're fantastic and I learned a lot. He was
39:06
Speaker 1: seriously speaking another language. He is. He's like a wind
39:10
Speaker 1: up toys as a broadcaster, because you know you'll always
39:14
Speaker 1: want to ask the right question. And with with Nate,
39:19
Speaker 1: it's very rare that you don't ask the right question
39:22
Speaker 1: because he's just he's got a he's got a gift
39:25
Speaker 1: and uh and it's fun to listen to and you know,
39:27
Speaker 1: he comes from a football family and he football has
39:31
Speaker 1: been his life and uh. And one of the most
39:33
Speaker 1: disappointing moments I've ever had here was when when Doug
39:37
Speaker 1: Marone fired him as the offensive cord and I was like,
39:40
Speaker 1: come on, come on, just for us, keep on, you know, so, yes,
39:47
Speaker 1: very much. So let's go around the NFL. A lot
39:49
Speaker 1: going on this week, that's for sure. I want to
39:51
Speaker 1: start with something I saw on Twitter that absolutely cracked
39:54
Speaker 1: me up. Yesterday's a fan put out about Trevor Lawrence
39:57
Speaker 1: and improving his play and they said, man, what if
39:59
Speaker 1: he's got this jump pass next season? Like Patrick Mahomes.
40:02
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan retweets this, who is with the Titans as
40:05
Speaker 1: announcements as sure as hell? No hope not. Well, Taylor W.
40:09
Speaker 1: Lawan is is quite the personality. They what's the podcast
40:16
Speaker 1: stuff that he does? Oh, it's something with the what's
40:18
Speaker 1: it called that they're in a bus? Helped me out.
40:23
Speaker 1: They have a couple of different guys with the boys
40:25
Speaker 1: busting with the boys. Yes, yeah, and uh, and it
40:28
Speaker 1: does a good job. And so anyway, it's a great response,
40:30
Speaker 1: so you know, because somebody wrote that and he responds
40:33
Speaker 1: to it because obviously the Titans being in the division.
40:36
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a he is when you watch Teller
40:41
Speaker 1: Lawan play football on game day, he is so overly dramatic. Yes,
40:47
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. And that's why he has a podcast. And
40:50
Speaker 1: so I mean he's a natural fit for getting in
40:53
Speaker 1: front of a microphone or from the TV camera. I
40:56
Speaker 1: mean that's uh, he's gonna have an easy second career.
40:58
Speaker 1: I can tell you that. Yes, And let's stick with
41:00
Speaker 1: the Titans because I'm part of the problem because I
41:04
Speaker 1: put this in the rundown and I have to talk
41:05
Speaker 1: about it and we have to talk about it. But
41:08
Speaker 1: I saw it at first what happened with Ryan Tannehill.
41:10
Speaker 1: And I'm sure if you do not know, he was
41:11
Speaker 1: talking about coaching up his rookie quarterback and he said,
41:14
Speaker 1: that's not my job to coach him up. We're fighting
41:16
Speaker 1: for a job here and I'm not here to mentor
41:19
Speaker 1: young quarterback. I'm here to be the starter for the Titans,
41:22
Speaker 1: huge backlash, like is always on the worst guy in
41:25
Speaker 1: the world. I kind of agree with him, but now
41:28
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's it's not a big deal, Like why
41:30
Speaker 1: people making such a big deal of this, and now
41:31
Speaker 1: we're talking about it on this show, so I'm part
41:33
Speaker 1: of the problem. Well, Ryan Tannehill is right, it's not
41:37
Speaker 1: the starting quarterbacks job to mentor that's why they pay coaches.
41:42
Speaker 1: And is it the starting quarterbacks job to be a
41:45
Speaker 1: good teammate? Yes? And will you help if asked? Absolutely?
41:51
Speaker 1: But I understand his response in his response if you,
41:54
Speaker 1: if you would, if you could have said it a
41:56
Speaker 1: different way, he could have probably what what it went
41:58
Speaker 1: ahead and said, hey, look, the first job that I
42:01
Speaker 1: need to worry about is getting myself ready to play,
42:04
Speaker 1: because that's my responsibility. I get paid to be the
42:06
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. I need to get ready to be the
42:08
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. If I can help him along the way
42:12
Speaker 1: while I'm doing all of that in preparation for my responsibility,
42:16
Speaker 1: than great. I mean it's the way you answer it.
42:19
Speaker 1: I mean, he's Ryan Tannehill is not a bad guy.
42:22
Speaker 1: He's not trying to He's not trying to shun a
42:26
Speaker 1: draft pick just because he plays the same position of him,
42:29
Speaker 1: and he's worried about this young quarterback coming in and
42:31
Speaker 1: taking his job. That's not what the response was all about.
42:35
Speaker 1: I think one of the more interesting things that Ryan
42:38
Speaker 1: Hill Ryan Tannehill said and part of this press conference,
42:42
Speaker 1: was that he had to get psychological help from the
42:48
Speaker 1: playoff loss that they experienced last year against the Cincinnati Bengals.
42:53
Speaker 1: That's a hard admit right there, and for starting quarterback
42:58
Speaker 1: in the National Football leagu to be so forthright and
43:01
Speaker 1: to say, hey, look, I had a really hard time.
43:03
Speaker 1: I was in a dark place. I needed to get
43:05
Speaker 1: help to help get over that loss that we had.
43:08
Speaker 1: And I think he had three interceptions in that game
43:10
Speaker 1: or something like that in the Tennessee Titans ended up
43:13
Speaker 1: losing that football game, and how he talked about how
43:17
Speaker 1: he needed help, and then couple that with the loss
43:22
Speaker 1: of A. J. Brown, his wide receiver to Philipel Fiagles.
43:25
Speaker 1: Then he talks also about that and how it impacted him.
43:28
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know, look, I think the one
43:32
Speaker 1: thing I think that a lot of fans expect out
43:35
Speaker 1: of NFL players as they expect them to be superhuman.
43:39
Speaker 1: Oh well, he should always help out the young player.
43:41
Speaker 1: He should always be a good teammate. Well, he is
43:44
Speaker 1: a good teammate. Nobody's ever said anything bad about Ryan
43:47
Speaker 1: and Ryan Tannehill ever. He's been a great teammate, and
43:51
Speaker 1: we also expect to play it all. He's tough, toughen up,
43:53
Speaker 1: you know, cupcake, you know take you know, move forward
43:56
Speaker 1: and get better. Well, let mean, look, he lost a
43:58
Speaker 1: football game and a lot of it is in part
44:00
Speaker 1: to his performance, and that's a hard thing to kind
44:02
Speaker 1: of bounce back from. So I give Ryan tanny Hill
44:05
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for being so honest and uh
44:10
Speaker 1: and I know that Tennessee Titans had some discussions about
44:14
Speaker 1: possibly replacing him this year. I root for Tanney Hill
44:18
Speaker 1: on game days that they're not playing the Jaguars because
44:21
Speaker 1: I like how he handles his business. I always have
44:25
Speaker 1: U He's been a really good pro and and I
44:28
Speaker 1: think he's the type of quarterback that you want to
44:30
Speaker 1: see when Yeah, totally agree. He's gone through a lot
44:33
Speaker 1: in his career, a lot of stops along the way
44:35
Speaker 1: and kind of the ultimate success story making it to
44:37
Speaker 1: the Titans and now having so much success because there
44:39
Speaker 1: were times growing up in South Florida with the Dolphins.
44:42
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is never gonna make it,
44:44
Speaker 1: and now look at him out. Yeah, that's it. I
44:46
Speaker 1: like him. I think that put it this way. If
44:50
Speaker 1: I'm John Robinson, who's the general manager of the Tennessee Titans,
44:54
Speaker 1: I like my quarterback Ryan Tannehill. I don't love him.
44:58
Speaker 1: I like him and love him personally, but professionally, I
45:03
Speaker 1: still want to find a way to find a franchise guy. Yeah,
45:07
Speaker 1: I get that. I mean, he's not the Mahomes, he's
45:09
Speaker 1: not the guy that he's going to play for another
45:11
Speaker 1: ten years. But you still got to appreciate what he
45:13
Speaker 1: is and what he does for your franchise. But at
45:15
Speaker 1: the end of the day, as a general manager, you're
45:18
Speaker 1: intasked with finding a franchise tight solution, and Ryan Tannehill,
45:22
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is not that. But I appreciate it. Yeah,
45:25
Speaker 1: probably another what two years, and then you go and
45:27
Speaker 1: try to find the next step. You're looking right now,
45:31
Speaker 1: right now, I mean that's you. You're you're already looking.
45:33
Speaker 1: That's you never stop looking now. You might not expend
45:37
Speaker 1: the resources right now as far as the high end resource,
45:41
Speaker 1: but you're you're looking right now there put it this way,
45:44
Speaker 1: the draft pick that they have as a quarterback, they
45:46
Speaker 1: didn't draft him with the expectation, well, you know, he's
45:48
Speaker 1: just going to be a backup, practice squad the guy. Yeah,
45:51
Speaker 1: you know. They look, hey, look he's got a chance
45:53
Speaker 1: and hopefully he can develop and be a franchise guy
45:56
Speaker 1: and replace Ryan tanneut Ye one day. Speaking of quarterbacks,
45:59
Speaker 1: this is crazy. Where the heck is Baker Mayfield going
46:02
Speaker 1: to play? This here? Great question. I still believe that
46:07
Speaker 1: Seattle would be a great place for him to end up.
46:12
Speaker 1: UH Seattle's system has always kind of been built around
46:16
Speaker 1: the foundation of a running game, and I think that
46:19
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is that type of quarterback. And that's not
46:23
Speaker 1: to to criticize him, but it's to be realistic and
46:28
Speaker 1: that what you know. And and the other thing too,
46:31
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield last year what I love about him. He
46:35
Speaker 1: played hurt the entire year and toughness and availability are
46:40
Speaker 1: always two traits at the quarterback position that you want
46:43
Speaker 1: to have, and UH Seattle has a need. They currently
46:48
Speaker 1: have um one quarterback under contract, Gino Smiths for I
46:52
Speaker 1: think with incentives somewhere around seven million, which is not
46:56
Speaker 1: that cost prohibited to keep you from going out and
46:58
Speaker 1: get into Baker Mayfield. So I think Aker Mayfield would
47:00
Speaker 1: be a great guy to put into that Seattle system
47:04
Speaker 1: until they can find maybe their guy, and maybe Baker
47:07
Speaker 1: Mayfield does so can develop into that guy. I don't
47:10
Speaker 1: know that, but I wouldn't be happy if I was
47:12
Speaker 1: Seattle before I'm at right now, No, it's not good enough.
47:15
Speaker 1: Another guy Carolina has got a draft pick. They got
47:19
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, who they gave up draft picks for last
47:22
Speaker 1: year and probably regret it right now. Um, I don't
47:27
Speaker 1: know if that would happen, because you're Sam Donald has
47:31
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for this year. You can't let him go.
47:34
Speaker 1: If you do, you still got to pay them. So
47:36
Speaker 1: it's uh. The reality is it's Seattle is not going
47:40
Speaker 1: to trade for him and then probably just letting him
47:43
Speaker 1: say so. Maybe Seattle just says, hey, look, we'll we'll
47:47
Speaker 1: just be patient and we'll wait until we can just
47:49
Speaker 1: get them for free. That kind of seems because that
47:52
Speaker 1: there was a lot of talk, especially early on the draft,
47:54
Speaker 1: of thinking is this the week and everything kind of settle.
47:56
Speaker 1: When I say when I say free, I mean not
47:58
Speaker 1: like free, like they're not gonna pay like a Wendy Chicken.
48:00
Speaker 1: They don't want to give up draft picks together. And
48:04
Speaker 1: then the Browns are a whole another story. Yeah, that's
48:09
Speaker 1: it's weird generally, Shawn Watson thing. Yeah, I don't know
48:14
Speaker 1: what's going to happen there, but you know, here, here's
48:16
Speaker 1: one thing to consider too though. The way the NFL
48:19
Speaker 1: has instituted the um what's the word the punishment system,
48:26
Speaker 1: it's changed in recent years. So the person that determines
48:30
Speaker 1: what the punishment is going to be as a person
48:32
Speaker 1: that now is jointly paid by the NFL Players Association
48:35
Speaker 1: and the NFL, so we're in the past it's kind
48:40
Speaker 1: of been all commissioner based. So now that person is, uh,
48:46
Speaker 1: what's the right way to say it, less more or
48:49
Speaker 1: less inclined to be as harsh maybe per se just
48:53
Speaker 1: because half of that checks coming from the NFL A maybe,
48:56
Speaker 1: But I think that's gonna be in an interesting watch
48:59
Speaker 1: what happens air. And then the commissioner does have the
49:02
Speaker 1: ability to modify what that person decides. It's kind of
49:08
Speaker 1: a tricky language. I was reading about that just recently,
49:11
Speaker 1: and the commissioner it'll be an interesting watch. We'll just
49:16
Speaker 1: say it put it that way. For DeShawn Watson, is
49:18
Speaker 1: he gonna play this year? Is he gonna be suspended?
49:21
Speaker 1: How is the fans? Are they gonna embrace him in Cleveland?
49:24
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's gonna play. I don't know.
49:29
Speaker 1: It's gonna be crazy. And here's the thing. When he
49:32
Speaker 1: goes to other cities, they're gonna have chance get a
49:36
Speaker 1: masside to Sean. Do you think that Jacksville was crazy?
49:41
Speaker 1: Just buckle up for that. Wait till he has to
49:43
Speaker 1: go to Philly. Oh god, I'm scared for him. Thank
49:46
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49:48
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