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Ranking Every Movie Ever Made - Episode 3 · Meet Your Double Feature | Movie Reviews & Forgotten Films

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Hello and welcome to Meet Your Double Feature.
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My name is Thomas, joined as always by my brother Frank.
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Frank, how's it going? Man, so so excited.
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I haven't been. I haven't been been this excited
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since that time I got addicted to caffeine pills.
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I'm just gonna roll right over that information.
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Welcome back to our site Sing by the Bell Reference.
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Yeah, it was. Cuz she sings the song okay
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singing. The song, Yeah.
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Yeah, I thought you anecdote about.
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I thought you just had something to get off your chest, do you?
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Even get addicted? Is that a thing?
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I always thought that was weird in the show like.
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What does she do? She gets addicted to pain pills
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and then she sings that I'm so excited.
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Pain. Pills.
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No, it's not it's caffeine pills.
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She's. Addicted to caffeine pills?
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I'm addicted to pain pills. Yeah, that's right.
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That's your addiction. Yeah.
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All right, anyway, welcome back to our ongoing series here on
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the channel Ranking Every Movie Ever Made.
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A show where Frank and I pull movies out of a hat and rank
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them on one definitive list of every film ever made, ranked
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from best to worst. It is an ongoing series and
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we're going to not stop until we've ranked.
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Every movie, Yeah, it should be pretty easy.
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Yeah, probably like 6 or 7 episodes will be pretty caught
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up. Yeah, I mean, how many movies
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could there be? How many, really?
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I don't know. I forgot the hat.
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By the way, you said pull them out of a hat.
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I don't I. Don't know.
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Oh, we forgot the hat. Oh gosh, yeah.
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Pulling them off a pile on the ground I guess.
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Yeah, I got a wheel. I got a wheel.
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We. Can see, yeah, we got a wheel.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the rules of the game, in
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case you've never seen an episode, which I will say maybe
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start with episode 1. We've ranked twenty movies
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already. You're going to be confused.
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Do. Whatever you want to listen to
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him. The way things work is I've made
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a list of virtually every movie that Frank or I has ever seen,
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and I've listed them all out alphabetically.
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And then I'm going to have Frank spin me a random number
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generator. He'll give me a number and I'll
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find the corresponding entry and then we'll use that as our first
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movie to discuss for the day. So given that Frank, I think we
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should just launch right in. I'm going to put an hour on the
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clock and we'll see how many movies we can rank on our
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definitive professional. List professional.
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OK, what makes it professional? Is there like an amateur version
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of this? List out there?
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Yeah, everybody else is got them destroyed.
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It's like the wasted. All right, so for the first time
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today, right, go ahead and spin your wheel, pick a piece of
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paper up off the ground because you don't have a hat.
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Oh, yeah. OK.
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Are you ready? Are you sure you're ready?
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Do you need to like take a breather before I do this?
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Deep breaths, deep breaths, let me know that sounds good.
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That sounds good in the microphone.
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All right, number one. Well, not number one.
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The first number out of the list is 1157. 1157 Let's see what
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that is on our alphabetical list.
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I've got a good feeling about this one.
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I think this is a movie that I like and I've definitely seen it
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before. Oh, you got to be kidding me.
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This is this is an insane pull, Frank, I think your I think your
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wheels weighted. OK so in the first episode we
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pulled and had a lengthy discussion about Star Wars
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episode 2 attack of the club and on a list that has like 2000
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other movies on it. You've started the day with Star
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Wars episode 3 Revenge of the. Sin.
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Oh yes. All right.
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So odds of that? I don't know, somebody could do
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the math on that and figure out the actual odds, but I'm not
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going to never tell me the odds if.
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You want? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's what Kowtuku says. That's what Kowtuku says.
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Thunderous applause. Kowtuku.
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So I'm thinking #1 we're just going to bump that right up to.
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So this is if you, yeah, if you, if you look at the list as it
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stands right now, Attack of the Clones pretty high up.
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And we did 20 minutes, I think in our first remem episode
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talking about why we both like it maybe a little too much.
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But I guess, gosh, I mean, where to even begin?
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Because Revenge of the Sith, I guess in the Star Wars prequel
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context, do you generally think that it's better than the
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previous two? Like episodes one and two man.
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As I'm sure I mentioned in some way when we talked about Attack
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of the Clones, I am both like one of the best people and one
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of the worst people to ask about the prequels because I could go
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on and on about them all day long because I love them.
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Now, that being said, which one's the, I guess we're really
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asking what's the best of the three?
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If we're looking at Phantom Menace, which is hasn't been
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pulled yet, but it's part of this conversation, I would say
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Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith.
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A lot of people think Revenge of the Sith is the best one and.
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I get, yeah, I think. I'm going to agree with that.
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I I think it is, I think it just the emotional peak.
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I mean, Anakin versus Obi Wan, like the music it, it's just
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like it's pure cinema. It's throw up, Marty, because
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that's what it is. Yeah, because I do think that
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it's a conversation about how trilogy's work, because people
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say this about Lord of the Rings too.
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They're like, which is the best one?
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Is it the first one because it kicks off the story and has the
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most, like, inciting momentum? Or is it the one that finally
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finishes telling you the story? But with Star Wars, you can't at
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least separate it a little bit more because where a lot of
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other trilogies are a little bit more consistent, the three Star
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Wars prequels are all kind of different feeling films.
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Like it feels like they were kind of reacting to fan push
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back on certain things. I know the later ones just
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ditched, like Jar Jar Binks for example, who probably was
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supposed to be more involved originally.
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Oh he definitely was. The Star Wars prequel films are
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more distinct movie to movie than other trilogies are, so I
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think it's a little bit easier to separate them.
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Yeah, that's totally fair. I especially comparing it to
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Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings I always see
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as like, that's just like one connected piece of media that's
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just one really long story told over three films.
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The Star Wars prequels even have time jumps in between each one.
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So that kind of separates them out even more if you're looking
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at it like just narratively speaking too.
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But as you said as well, just like, like tonally, like the
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vibes of the three are, are all different in their own way.
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But yeah, I, I, I, I would say Revenge of the Sith is the best
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one or my favorite of the three. Well, it's a professional list,
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so we're going to say we're going to say it's because it's
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the best one, even if it is just because it's our favorite.
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Well, yeah. Well, and again, I'm looking at
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the list and I don't know. I mean, I don't know if I, I
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don't know what we're ranking this on, but I don't know if I
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can in good conscience put Men in Black above Revenge of the
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Sith. I mean, I feel like Revenge of
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the Sith is just got to go to the top.
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That's, that's just me. My.
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Gosh, we this, the whole thing feels like an agenda just to say
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that the Star Wars prequels are good because we keep pulling
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them and put it in the top of the list.
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This is really quick professional list.
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It's a professional list. It will not be contested.
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I do want to mention some thoughts because Revenge of the
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Sith was in theaters not that long ago per time of recording.
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I think we both saw it sometime last year or did.
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Were you able to go to the theatrical release?
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Oh I, yeah, I for sure. Oh man, I think I might have
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mentioned it too. So this is just a quick aside.
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I I live in in West Hollywood, so the viewers can but but last
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year when Revenge of the Sith was in theaters, the El Capitan
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theater is like really nearby to where I live.
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And I almost went to a screening there.
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Like I think it was like the night of the release, the re
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release for Revenge of the Sith. And I was like debating it.
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And then it was like kind of late or something.
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And I was like, you know what, never mind, it's the weekend.
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I'll I'll let go tomorrow or something.
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And that screening that I almost went to Hayden Christensen and
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Sam Jackson showed up to that screening at the El Capitan
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Theater and like intro the movie.
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Yeah. And I was like, Oh my God, yes,
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yes, both of them were there. And like Sam Jackson was like
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Mace lives. It's like and I was so but go.
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Ahead. Yeah, yeah.
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I was so pissed that I didn't go to that screen, but then I went
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and saw it that same weekend. I went and saw it at AMC and
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like they had that little fun thing beforehand where it was
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like Hayden was like this is where the fun begins.
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He did his. Little Yeah, they do, and.
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I can quote. That's a trend with a lot of
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theatrical re releases lately is they'll they'll film some sort
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of new footage and have someone come on to talk about it.
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I went and saw the they put Lord of the Rings back in theaters
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not that long ago and they had Peter Jackson film some just
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like rambling monologue before each one.
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That was pretty funny. Oh.
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That's cool, yeah. What I wanted to mention about
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Revenge of the Sith, because obviously we've seen it several
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times, we've been watching it since we were kids.
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But when I saw it most recently, I was struck about the structure
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of that third prequel film, because it's weirdly lopsided
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towards the first act, where there's something like 10 or 11
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scenes in a row after the action sequence at the beginning.
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That's just Hayden Christensen going to talk to somebody in a
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room and then going to talk to somebody else in a room.
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Like they're so stressed for time to to sell the turn to the
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dark side angle with him that they've poorly built up and have
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just like run out of runway for that.
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He has to go like do all of his character arc in a series of
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short, repetitive scenes that honestly don't go very well as a
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sequence. Like he'll just go talk to
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Palpatine and then go talk to Padme and then go talk to Obi
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Wan and then go talk to Mae's Windu.
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And nothing happens in between any of these sequences.
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But because I've already seen the movie, I like know that it's
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building towards a big action beat at the end as well.
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But I can only imagine the first time seeing Revenge of the Sith.
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Like if I'd been older, maybe when I first watched it, I would
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have been like, what is happening?
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Is this just like politics, the movie?
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Like there's no more action, There's no more variation.
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We're just in the city. We're in Coruscant doing
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politics for like an hour. Well, I mean, again, this ties
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back into people's initial reactions when the films came
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out to how they're perceived now.
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There's a whole generation of people that like love them now
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as opposed to how people felt about them at the time.
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I don't think like there's definitely they're flawed films
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in in many ways, but that's almost what is so endearing
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about them and and why I think they've lasted this test of time
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and why people so love them so much is because they're uniquely
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flawed. There's a lack of just
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directing. The performances are not great.
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The Yeah, narratively it's kind of a mess, like the whole.
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It's ridiculous. You have 3 movies to tell a
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story with a very clear ending of your heroic Jedi figure falls
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to the dark side and becomes the like iconic villain that
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everybody already knows. And the movie feels like it
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forgot that's what was supposed to happen until the last 40
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minutes. And then they're like Oh no, Oh
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no, hit the gas, hit the gas. He's killing younglings.
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Speed it up like I have so. Weird.
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It is weird. And I've never really fully been
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able to make the connection between Hayden Christensen's
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Anakin Skywalker and like the Darth Vader from the original
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films. I just can't see those two as
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the same character. Does that make sense?
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It's just like, that's what we were supposed to be leading to.
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But I'm just like, these are two different people, like, And a
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lot of that is because of the way the films were made.
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Like the original films made first and then way later we came
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back and tried to tell this prequel story and it just did.
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It didn't really connect in that way.
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But to some people this might be total blasphemy.
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But I'm not the biggest fan of the original movies.
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I appreciate them, but. Cut his mic.
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Pull the floor. I mean, I mean, I, I absolutely
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like appreciate them. I think they're interesting to
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talk about in terms of how they changed a lot of things in terms
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of like Hollywood blockbusters and their actual impact on like
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film history is, is really interesting and, and like the
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ripple effects of what those original films did.
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But I mean, I just grew up, you know, I'm of that age group that
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grew up on the prequels. And so it's a lot of nostalgia,
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but there's just so much that I like could genuinely argue for
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about them. So.
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I do think that, like you said, this could turn into a 2 hour
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dissertation about the various strengths and weaknesses of
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Revenge of the Sith, but we've got, we've got the rest of a
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show to do. So I feel like the list we have
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right now, we've only ranked twenty movies so far.
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We're pulling them at random. There's nothing on the list yet
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that's like high art or, or especially meaningful films or
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things that people would be really mad to see us put below
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the Star Wars prequels. So why don't we just drop
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Revenge of the Sith off and #1 and just know that it can hang
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out there for a time until a real movie shows up to overtake
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it? That's it's our list.
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OK, if there's only one, it's the only one in existence.
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That's a ranking every single movie ever made, and I feel good
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that at one point both Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the
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Sith were on top. We're both on there.
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If we pull Phantom Menace, then you're going to have to argue
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that's better than whatever's on the list at that time, and that
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could be a harder sell. But we've managed to get two
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different Star Wars prequels to the top, so that really shows
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you the the kind of people we are.
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They're great. There's there's a certain
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percentage of people listening that are going to 100% agree
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with this. Absolutely, absolutely.
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OK Revenge of the Sith currently, for the time being,
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greatest movie of all time, much like the film before it.
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So we'll leave that there. You're going to let that hang,
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Frank. Why don't you go ahead and spin
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the wheel and we'll grab another movie.
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I can't believe that was the first one just opening with
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Revenge of the Sith. Shut up, sorry.
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OK. Next one is 616.
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OK 616 no. What is this 2016 hyper
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normalization? I got it.
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Look up what this movie even is. Hyper Normalization is the title
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of the film. Yeah, I I have a faint memory.
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I think this is a documentary I watched in college for a class
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AKAI don't remember. I probably wrote a paper about
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it. I I have to jog my memory
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though. Let's pull that paper up.
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What grade did you get? Do you remember?
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Probably an AI was good at papers.
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Probably an A this guy. I'm just saying that, listen,
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there was one time for a film class where I had to write a
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paper about the first Tim Burton Batman movie.
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And I remember I got AC on it. And I was really surprised
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because usually my papers did pretty well.
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And I was so offended that I didn't even read the feedback.
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I just, like, walked out of class and threw it away.
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So I was like, you're AC, I'm AB, I'm Batman.
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All right. Well, that's, that's great.
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Thank you. That's that's funny.
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OK. Oh my gosh, this blurb on
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Wikipedia about hyper normalization is making me
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tired. OK, hyper normalization, and
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this is a direct quote from Wikipedia as a 2016 BBC
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documentary by British filmmaker Adam Curtis.
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It argues that following the global economic crises of the
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70s, governments, financiers and technological utopians gave up
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on trying to shape the real world and instead established A
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simpler, fake world for the benefit of multinational
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corporations. Which is just a true sentence.
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I don't know how it's a movie. Well, you said it's a
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documentary though, right? So they're exposing these truths
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to people. Yes, says it contains 9 chapters
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and is composed primarily of montage with voice over.
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Again, that's just describing what a documentary is.
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Oh my God this is no this is just current geopolitics as a
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documentary. Is there like a separate list?
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Can we make it this like not even a number?
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No. So let's see, do we think
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current modern geopolitics or it's.
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Got to be better than Geostorm if we look down at the bottom of
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the current list. Is it better than 40?
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Because I was, I was, I was looking at in between Cinderella
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Story and Sailor Moon. But you went a little lower.
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So you, you, you put it where it feels right.
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You're the one that saw this. I did see this.
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You wrote a paper about it. You probably got an A or you got
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pissed and threw it in the trash.
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One of the two. I like that my like evidence for
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why I was good at writing papers is I wrote a bad 1 and I refused
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to take feedback. Yeah.
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That's how the best do it. That's how they do.
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It's how winning is done. I'm a maverick, OK?
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It's a documentary. I like documentaries.
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There are many that I would put much higher on the list.
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Hyper Normalization sounds like a boring, tired documentary, but
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it's about an important issue, and I'm sure that I agreed with
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a lot of the stuff it presented, which makes it better.
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But personally, I think movies are both a tool to inform and
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challenge people's opinions, but also they're here for
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entertainment, and a really dry BBC documentary does only one of
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those two things. So I'm going to put it I think
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you're exactly right. Maybe, maybe even below 48
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hours. OK, I have no objection and I
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don't know what this is, so I have no objection to wherever
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you want to put it. Look, my apologies to the hard
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working journalists at the BBC, but your movie's boring to me
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and I'm not going to rank it any higher.
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Was that the opening paragraph of your essay?
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In this essay, I will instead discuss 1982's 48 Hours.
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This is not a knock on documentary filmmaking as a
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whole. I just found that movie really
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slow. No, I'm hey, you don't.
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I hear you. I hear you, brother.
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You don't need to justify it to me.
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Just a regular guy. I want to come home after work
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and crack a beer and watch Revenge of the Sith.
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OK? I don't need to be taught about
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neoliberalism, all right? I get enough of that.
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I don't need to learn about it. I'm in it.
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I'm in it right now anyway. Spin the, spin the wheel, move
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on. Spinning the wheel.
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Next up is 762. 762 is OK, this one's more fun. 2019's loop in
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the third, the first. Oh yeah, I think we watched this
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one together. I think we did.
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We had a loop in the third. For those who don't know.
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Is it originally like a manga anime series of Japan about a
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charming thief? Right, that's the simplest
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explanation. Yeah, yeah.
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And this was a 3D animated movie that was like a newer entry in
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the loop in the third Canon, but was supposed to be like a
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prequel story about when he was a younger man, right?
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I. Didn't remember that last part
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about it being a prequel story. You're probably right though.
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I. Think that's why it's called the
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first. That makes sense that.
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Was a very Mike Myers, Yeah. Thank you.
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That's that's what I was going for, yeah.
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It's a bit of a Doctor Evil move.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So yeah, a little bit of the third is a fun one.
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That's one where I think a lot of people are big fans of the
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original anime series. It's very suave.
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It's stylish and has good music. This movie was maybe seen by
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fewer people, but I recall it being quite good.
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Oh yeah. I mean, Loop in the third is
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great. It's inspired other arguably
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more popular series. Like I know that Cowboy Bebop
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was like heavily inspired by the original Loop in the 3rd.
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And after I watched like after we watched this movie, I went
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and watched one of the Loop in the third anime series and I
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loved it. I was like, this is great.
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So this was a great entryway to to just loop in the 3rd and
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there was, oh actually there was also the Miyazaki like Studio
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Ghibli loop in the third film. The 70s one, yeah, there's a,
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there's another Lupin movie that is in like traditional anime
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style. That one's even better if we
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pull that one. I I would put that pretty
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highly. I believe it was produced by
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Studio Ghibli. It was not made by or no, Hayao
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Miyazaki had some role in it. I believe he did, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, so if we pull that one,
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that's that that one's worth expanding on more, I think
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because it's a that's like it's just a fantastic stand alone
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film in the series. This one, the 2019 film just
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kind of like a solid animated movie, kind of like a family
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movie in terms of tone. It's not it's not serious or
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anything, just fun, exciting animation.
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I would I'd rank it pretty high. Oh.
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How high would you rank it? It's almost like that's why
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we're here. Lupin the third, the first
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probably moves up to we actually have like a little block of
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animated movies towards the middle of the list so far.
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Our current number 11 is Porco Rosso, which is like a
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traditional Ghibli movie. And then right below it is 1997
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Hercules from Disney. Where would you?
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I feel like it's going to land somewhere around these two.
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I would. Definitely put it below both of
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those movies though. I would as well.
23:11
I think it's fun. If we pulled that 70s Lupin
23:14
movie, it would maybe be more in contention.
23:15
This is just like solid. I would put this.
23:18
Yeah, I would put the 70s one above those two you just
23:21
mentioned and this one like solidly below it.
23:25
OK, I think maybe for ranking then Lupin the third, the first
23:29
versus 1998 crime thriller Out of Sight.
23:35
Who wins? Gosh.
23:38
Oh, we oh, that, that was the Clooney one, right Was.
23:40
That. That's the Cloon?
23:41
Yep. Honestly similar vibes like both
23:46
kind of like Thief movies heists in a way.
23:50
Like if Lupin the character was in the upcoming sequel to the
23:55
Ocean's 11 movies, I'd be like, yeah, of course.
23:58
That'd be great, but if it was like Looney Tunes style though,
24:01
where it's like all the other actors are live action
24:04
performers and he's just the one animated one on the team.
24:07
It's just a cartoon. Yeah.
24:08
And they're like, we need someone who could squeeze into
24:10
this door. And he's like, I got it.
24:11
Then he does like a Daffy Duck routine.
24:13
It just goes like 2D, yeah. I would say Nope, You go, you
24:19
tell me. We were going to What were you
24:21
going to the same time? Same time you just say above or
24:24
below, out of sight. We just say the.
24:26
Word above or below OK 32 one below below OK OK on my end it
24:38
sounded like it sounded like you just waited to hear what I was
24:43
going to say in the same the same thing.
24:46
It's like that that SNL bit where they're trying to like
24:50
sing but they don't know the the lyrics and they're trying to
24:53
like just guess what the next word is going to.
24:55
Be oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The front office in bed, right?
24:57
Yeah. Just trying to like, follow the
24:58
other's lead. OK, well, they're in agreement
25:00
then. Lupin the third, the first is
25:04
almost as good, but just below 1998 out of sight, which is
25:07
would currently make it #14 on our list So far, not bad.
25:13
Respectable position. Yeah, I, I definitely think that
25:17
a factor in how we rank these because it's so off the cuff is
25:19
like the impression that they leave.
25:21
Like I'd say we watched that movie like four or five years
25:23
ago. I don't really remember very
25:25
well. I remember I liked it, but not
25:27
much in specific. And I think that does kind of
25:29
knock it down a little bit. That's a good point.
25:32
I I think if there's one thing that's a determining factor and
25:38
where things land on the list, it's just general imprint.
25:40
That's why Revenge of the Sith is number one right now.
25:42
It just. Yeah, it's a very strong
25:44
guidepost for our entire life. Yeah, and a dear friend.
25:54
Do you think that when we decide that Revenge of the Sith should
25:57
go on top of the list, I should just source the audio of her
26:00
saying so? This is how Liberty dies.
26:02
Oh, you absolutely should. Yes, yes, I don't.
26:06
I don't see any reason why you shouldn't.
26:08
The thunderous, thunderous Count Dooku.
26:11
Thunderous Count. Dooku, which is how we've been
26:14
quoting it for our entire lives. That's.
26:17
What I mean, it's too deep. It's too deep in the psyche.
26:19
We've been talking about these movies for 20 years.
26:21
We have like layers of references that are just between
26:24
the two of us about them. How could it go anywhere but #1?
26:28
Yeah, I remember. Was it, There was 1 Christmas a
26:31
couple of years ago where it was like all we talked about like
26:34
this is like Christmas Day or Christmas Eve maybe, and we just
26:38
spent the entire time talking about the prequels.
26:40
Yeah. And yeah, this is what's
26:43
important. Listen, they're bad movies kind
26:46
of, but the the way to fix them and make them like flawless
26:50
would not involve drastic changes.
26:52
And that's the thing that gets me.
26:54
A lot of people are like, what if the prequels were good and
26:56
they just make a new movie and call it a Star Wars prequel And
27:00
I'm like, they had a lot. They had a lot that should still
27:02
be there. If anything, they didn't go hard
27:04
enough on certain ideas cough cough Sith Jar Jar Binks.
27:10
Sure, Yeah, yeah. And well, and they've spawned
27:13
some. We're back to Star Wars now,
27:14
but. Real quick, they've.
27:18
Just they've spawned so much related media that fills in
27:26
those blanks in a way or just expands on those ideas.
27:30
So there was clearly a lot there that people really latched onto
27:33
that's. What I mean the Star Wars
27:35
prequels added backfilled in lore that has allowed Star Wars
27:40
to be an IP that still gets new stuff today.
27:43
Like there was other things that added to that too.
27:46
I mean, there's novels and games that added to like the ancient
27:49
history of Star Wars, but the prequels gave so much that other
27:53
authors and creators have been able to latch onto to make
27:57
interesting stuff. There's a Darth Maul animated
28:00
series that's brand new. There's 6000 episodes of that
28:03
Clone Wars TV show, and some people think that's over
28:05
saturation. I just think it's given the
28:07
people what they want. Well, I mean, I was talking to a
28:12
friend of mine recently who you know about.
28:16
You're a way to phrase that, You know, I don't know Obama.
28:23
It was. It was me and Barack, we're
28:24
talking about the Star Wars prequels and the Old Republic
28:27
games. But though, but even that stuff
28:31
like 'cause you mentioned the stuff that goes into even the
28:34
older history of Star Wars, like the Old Republic series of
28:38
games, which I also really love those.
28:39
But those came out around the same time as the prequels and
28:42
even those have that DNA in it as well, especially with like
28:46
the visuals and everything. So I really think a lot of what
28:50
people like about Star Wars does come from those movies, and the
28:54
one of the many problems with the new ones is that they just
28:56
didn't introduce any new ideas. No, like if you want a movie
29:00
that tries to nostalgia Bate purely from what's on paper in
29:04
the original Star Wars trilogy, that's how you get solo like.
29:08
The solo? I haven't even seen that one.
29:10
They have nothing to pull on. They literally have to invent
29:13
like a nonsensical wrap around conversation so that the guy
29:17
could declare that his name is Solo.
29:20
He's like, you're travelling alone, I'm going to write your
29:22
name on your passport. And it's like, why isn't that
29:24
just his name? This is awful.
29:26
Yeah, that's stupid. And then Darth Mole's in it too,
29:28
from what I've heard. Spoilers, I guess for anyone who
29:30
hasn't seen someone, but I I fell asleep during it.
29:35
That says enough about. It anyway, that's that's our 2nd
29:42
loop back to Revenge of the Sith.
29:44
But as we move on, I think we just finished talking about loop
29:47
in the third. So let's let's spin the wheel.
29:49
What else we got? This next one, it's going to be
29:52
Phantom Menace. Just you watch.
29:53
Just you wait. Oh, I don't know, 12221222?
30:00
1222 #1222 on the alphabetical list.
30:05
You guessed it, Another sad documentary I watched in
30:08
college, The Act of Killing. OK, so let's just, should we
30:14
just put it right next to the other one and move on?
30:16
Let me look it up. Hold on the film follows
30:21
individuals from 2012. The film follows individuals who
30:24
participated in the Indonesian mass killings of the 1960s,
30:28
where wherein alleged communists and people opposed to the New
30:32
Order regime were tortured and killed, and many of the people
30:36
involved are still in power at the time the movie was made.
30:39
Oh, so it's like a lighthearted. Family film it's.
30:41
Like a situation. Yep.
30:42
Mm hmm great. I I will say I believe this is a
30:49
pretty highly acclaimed documentary when it was
30:52
released. For what it revealed, I'm.
30:56
Trying to remember because I don't want to even attempt to
31:00
like give a full picture because I'll end up just leaving stuff
31:03
out. Like this would require more of
31:04
a formal presentation. I would say maybe go read about
31:07
the film yourself if you're interested.
31:08
But if this is the thing I'm thinking of, it was an
31:11
interesting case where the documentary film makers had,
31:13
like, access to the people in charge who had been involved in
31:17
these crimes against humanity. And like, the people were happy
31:21
to, like, give interviews and be really involved in the project.
31:25
So it's really like, chilling to kind of have these people gladly
31:28
participating in a recounting of something they did that most
31:31
people would be horrified by. I think they even did this
31:34
really bizarre exercise where they brought the real people
31:39
involved along to film like a reenactment as footage for the
31:46
movie. That's kind of insane, actually.
31:49
Well, and as I recall, like part of the end of the story is that
31:52
by forcing them to film these like reenactments of the things
31:56
they did to these people that were killed, it like caused for
31:59
them, some of them to be really like emotionally impacted by it
32:04
and kind of remorseful. Like the act of recreating the
32:06
crime from the side of the people who actually had done it.
32:10
Like, like really shocked them and LED to these kind of
32:15
interesting, you know, like conversations afterwards by
32:17
these people who actually for the first time seemed a little
32:20
remorseful about it. Wow.
32:23
That's, I mean, honestly, I'm glad we didn't just blow past
32:26
that one because that's really interesting.
32:28
That's like a psychological exploration of these things.
32:33
Yeah, I'm trying to read the end of the, like, plot synopsis to
32:36
like, jog my memory. It does say that like one of the
32:38
people being interviewed, like had like a panic attack like in
32:42
reaction to finally being made to feel empathy for what they
32:46
had done to other people. It's really crazy that people
32:51
are able to turn that off in the 1st place because it sounds like
32:56
they're really not able to turn it off, but they're able to
32:58
suppress it enough that they're able to go out and do these
33:03
things. And then later those feelings
33:07
resurface because they bro is there that that's just really an
33:14
interesting look into, I don't know, I guess what people are
33:18
capable of. Yeah, it's a heavy documentary.
33:22
Hyper normalization is talking about politics and so it's
33:24
easier, but it's not like in the specific.
33:27
So it's a little bit easier for me to dismiss it.
33:29
It's just like somebody's essay about the subject.
33:32
Where is Act of Killing was actually a pretty ambitious
33:35
documentary project that used that type of filmmaking to to
33:39
affect someone in a way that no other version could.
33:41
I think even a fictionalized adaptation of the story if like
33:45
if you filmed a narrative film about that event and showed it
33:48
to the people, I don't think that would have nearly the same
33:51
impact as what they were made to do instead.
33:53
Yeah, that's why documentary film making is interesting
33:56
because, you know, I, I obviously I know other other
33:59
people that work in production. And a friend of mine worked on
34:02
like documentary projects for a while.
34:04
And I remember she was working on one that was something about
34:07
the school system that she was like travelling to different
34:10
States and going to all these different schools.
34:13
And I was like, well, what's the documentary like about though?
34:16
And she was like, yeah, we don't really know yet.
34:18
Because it was like they had almost like an idea of what they
34:23
wanted to explore and then go out and film it and then kind of
34:28
find the story in the edit sometimes almost.
34:30
And so it's like you documentary filmmaking can be kind of
34:34
experimental in that way. It is.
34:36
And I think that the results of what was done for the act of
34:40
killing, I mean, it's totally a case.
34:42
Like if they hadn't gotten what they were looking for out of it,
34:44
it might have just not even become a movie.
34:46
Like sometimes you go out to capture a subject and you're
34:47
like, we don't have a feature. Like we don't have a story that
34:50
we captured well enough to make into something.
34:53
But this one definitely did. I am completely at a loss for
34:57
where to put it on our silly little ranking list.
35:03
I mean, it's pretty good. It's a good documentary.
35:06
It's controversial. There's like a ton of citations,
35:08
even if you just like, look at the IMDb or the wiki about
35:11
whether or not it was a like accurate retelling of the
35:14
history of the crimes committed in that country or the political
35:18
history. Like it's a very charged
35:19
subject. And there's a lot where you
35:21
could say from that documentary ethics perspective is like, is
35:24
what they did right? Is it even maybe disingenuous to
35:29
ask the audience to care about someone who did horrible things
35:33
feeling bad about it 40 years later and suffering no
35:36
consequences for it? Sure.
35:39
And that's the other thing about documentaries.
35:41
Yeah, yeah, totally. And that's the other thing I was
35:43
I would say about documentaries too, is, is that's what they do.
35:46
It's like they present a narrative, but it's presented as
35:51
fact. And so it really does.
35:54
I think a lot of people would watch a documentary and kind of
35:58
take everything they're given as information at face value where
36:02
because that's how it's being presented to them.
36:04
It's like, oh, this is documentary, this is real things
36:06
that happened. But you can't always completely
36:10
trust everything that you're hearing because they're still
36:14
trying to tell a story and and structure it in a certain way
36:16
and has an agenda of sorts, even if they might not even know what
36:20
it is. Yeah.
36:22
So yeah, like you said, documentary ethics and and that
36:25
type of filmmaking. It's it's hardest for me to rank
36:28
documentaries in this list because of the narrative films
36:31
cover 90% of genres and so you can more like easily compare
36:35
documentaries. So hard for me to say like I'd
36:37
say in the documentary field, good movie.
36:40
Is it below the Hot Fuzz line? I don't know.
36:42
Oh. Hot Fuzz, I was looking more at
36:45
the big short line that. Those are hard, too, yeah.
36:49
Yeah. I would say active killing is
36:52
above the Big Short Valley. But.
36:56
But but below the Hot Fuzz torch, yeah, I'm going to say
37:02
I'm going to vibe it out. Below Hercules.
37:09
OK, sure. Yeah, I'm not going to argue too
37:12
strongly one way or the other for this one, especially because
37:14
I haven't. Seen it again.
37:16
Like if we mentioned recently, it's a lot of this is going to
37:20
be based on the impression it left and this one seems like it
37:23
left a strong impression it was at least unique in that way.
37:26
I was able to remember stuff about the format of a
37:29
documentary and this is again it's something I watched 10
37:31
years ago and probably wrote a paper about and probably had not
37:34
slept much before seeing in the 1st place.
37:36
So I was up all night finishing the Batman paper and then I had
37:41
to go to class. Right.
37:42
I I was going to say we're going to college ragers, but it was it
37:45
was Batman. It was it was stuff like Batman.
37:47
Definitely Batman. It's just me alone being like
37:49
you, tell him Mr. Mr. J. Mr. J OK that's for Act of
37:56
killing #13 on our list so far out of 25.
37:59
Kind of right towards the middle.
38:01
I'd say the things above it are like peak for their genre and
38:04
this one is like semi peak for the documentary genre.
38:09
Semi peak OK, should we do a silly one?
38:12
Let's do a silly one. I would love a silly one.
38:14
Could you maybe pull Star Wars again?
38:16
Let's do a silly one. It's 1576.
38:19
This one's so silly. Can't wait to tell you how silly
38:23
it is 1570 What a 5050 what a 5050?
38:31
It's an animated movie, but it's really sad.
38:35
We're talking about 1978's Watership Down.
38:40
Oh my goodness, I got to say, there are way we've built so
38:43
many animated movies. I really wasn't expecting there
38:47
to be so many so. Quickly, yeah, because it's not
38:51
like it's a majority of the alphabetized list.
38:53
But through sheer coincidence, we keep pulling animated stuff
38:55
from different categories. Like we haven't pulled just
38:59
another 90s Disney movie yet. We're we're jumping around
39:02
between like countries because Watership Down.
39:04
Is that a British film? No.
39:08
This is another one I haven't seen.
39:09
This is, this is. Oh, you haven't?
39:11
No. Yeah.
39:12
I'll try to move quicker on this one.
39:14
Watership Down is an adaptation of a book that I mean for a
39:18
point of reference if you need it.
39:20
It's almost like akin to something.
39:23
It's not a fantasy story, it's more in the style where it's a
39:25
story about animals, but like it personifies the animals with
39:29
like voices and characters, but they still move around like
39:32
regular animal creatures. How odd.
39:36
I'm trying to picture that but it's difficult.
39:38
The animation is really pretty. It has almost like a.
39:41
The image in my head is almost like a watercolor esque palette.
39:46
It's a very nice looking movie. It's a very well made story, but
39:49
it's also really upsetting. Picture Like the Red Wall books
39:54
if there was no fantasy, yeah picture Red Wall but none of the
39:57
fantasy or fun and just the sad killing parts.
40:03
Man, Redwell's so good. Should we just talk about that
40:05
instead? That's a book, but.
40:07
Watership Down there was a show. There was a PBS show.
40:12
There was a PBS show. That's true, that's true.
40:14
But we're a movie show. Watership Down is a weird one.
40:17
Like it again, quite good, quite solid.
40:20
It's a it's a famous novel adapted into a famous story that
40:24
I think is still like for children, but just has some
40:27
like, upsetting imagery in it. Like when the animals attack
40:30
each other, they like draw blood and people die.
40:34
It's kind of trying to like, kind of trying to make feeder
40:37
out of the ways in which animals actually like prey and hunt on
40:42
each other in the wild. But there's a story like it's
40:45
presented like a nature documentary or.
40:48
No, not at all. It's it's like a narrative story
40:50
with like characters I try to remember.
40:52
Let me just look at the basic plot so I don't sound silly.
40:55
This is supposed to be a silly one.
40:57
It's supposed to be silly. If you Google Watership Down
41:00
movie, one of the first things that pops up is a YouTube video
41:03
essay and the thumbnail just says childhood trauma.
41:10
Good. Also, I'm spot on, it was a
41:12
British film. How did I remember that?
41:15
That's just, you know, there's not a lot of room in your head
41:18
for important things, but stuff like this, it's right in there.
41:28
OK, rabbits. The main characters are rabbits.
41:32
Apparently one of them is named Fiber, which is just funny.
41:38
Fiber, the rabbit. That's fun.
41:40
Yeah. I don't know.
41:41
I don't think I could do justice to this one in a short form
41:43
conversation because there's a lot in it.
41:45
It's a very, like, rich story for children about, like, the
41:48
horrors of the world. And there's a lot of things like
41:51
that. It's like how people talk about
41:54
like, Return to Oz, like that odd Wizard of Oz sequel, how
41:57
it's like, really oddly scary even to watch as an adult.
42:00
And you're like, why were kids being exposed to this?
42:03
Oh, I'm not familiar with that return to Oz.
42:06
Is that a live action film? It was, yeah.
42:08
It was like a much later sequel about, I think some other novel
42:13
in that same world that just has a lot of, like, frightening
42:16
imagery in it that scared a lot of kids when they saw it.
42:20
That's. Interesting, I'm going to have
42:21
to look into that. So yeah, I don't know.
42:24
This is this is 1. Like it has theatrical qualities
42:28
to it. The animals all are like, you
42:30
know, they live in like a human esque society with like
42:34
different roles and families and stuff, but they're just trying
42:36
to navigate a world that I think when you zoom out is like the
42:41
human world, you know what I mean?
42:42
It's like they'll be trying to like cross the grasslands, but
42:45
then you'll zoom out and you'll see that it's like, oh, there's
42:47
like a farm in the background. Like there's people living here
42:49
too. OK, I'm sure I have an.
42:52
I have a rough idea of what this is.
42:55
Where, Where do you think it's going to?
42:56
Where's it going to live on this list?
42:58
I mean, we're going straight to animated Junction because I feel
43:00
like a lot of these are just fairly good animated films.
43:08
Watership Down to me is above the one we just talked about.
43:13
I put it above active killing. I would put it maybe even right
43:19
below Dune, like at the top of the animated heap.
43:23
Sure, Yeah. I mean if you like it more than
43:25
like Hercules and Porco Rosso. I think it's one where it's
43:29
upsetting to watch, but Baby has a little bit more oomph, like
43:33
messaging wise. Like again, Poca, Rosa and
43:36
Hercules are really fantastic animated films, but they all
43:39
they both suffer from like the strengths of their peers.
43:43
There's better 90s Disney movies, there's better Ghibli
43:45
movies. Watership Down kind of stands on
43:47
its own. It has an interesting quality to
43:49
it and it's a good story and it left an impression.
43:51
I saw that movie when I was like 15 and it's been a long time but
43:55
I do still remember the vibes pretty strongly.
43:58
Oh wow, when did you? I didn't know when did you watch
44:01
this? What?
44:02
What? What motivated this?
44:04
No idea, couldn't tell you. I don't have like a sense memory
44:08
of like what I was doing or what was going on with it.
44:09
I just know I've seen the film at some point.
44:12
OK, Watership Down. Watership.
44:14
Down. We are having trouble today,
44:15
folks. We got an early lead with Star
44:17
Wars and now it's just like a memory test for me.
44:22
Once again, it's all movies you've seen.
44:25
Well, I know there was. We both saw Lupin, but yeah.
44:28
You know what? Why don't we spin the wheel
44:30
again and see if we can find something a little more meaty
44:32
that we can both talk about? Spin that meaty wheel.
44:38
Don't say that. Don't say that.
44:39
Don't say that. 1374. 1374 OK have you even seen this?
44:49
The 2016 remake of The Magnificent 7.
44:54
Wait, the remake of The Magnificent 7, which is itself
45:00
is like an adaptation of Seven Samurai?
45:02
Is that right? That's right, The Magnificent 7
45:04
was the original 1. I think it was made in like the
45:06
60s and follows the same basic plot outline as Seven Samurai
45:10
and like 100 other films where it's like the small town is
45:13
being taken advantage of by Raiders and so they go grab like
45:17
a small but elite team to like teach the town how to defend
45:21
itself and then and then there's a big fight at the end.
45:24
It's the same plot as Ninja Turtles 3 as well.
45:28
Well, of course, that's where I was going to go next.
45:30
Was Ninja Turtles 3 next Ninja Turtles 3 because we're a adult
45:33
program and we talk about serious film and.
45:36
Bug's life. It's also Bug's life.
45:38
Too. It's also Bug's Life, that's
45:39
true. So yeah, that's the original
45:42
Magnificent 7. I haven't seen that one, I don't
45:45
think, but I guess in the 20 tens they did a remake and I
45:48
think Ethan Hawke was in it. That's what I remember.
45:51
Yeah. So to answer your question, no,
45:53
I don't think I've seen any of those films.
45:56
I I have a a strong vibe about this one that it's going to go
46:00
right below Doctor Strange. Two.
46:05
OK, sure. I got nothing on this one.
46:08
It's a dull remake of a much better movie that in its own
46:12
right is OK. It's now like, it's like a
46:14
poorly constructed film, but kind of falls into that camp of
46:17
like, why did we do this again? That story has been adapted so
46:21
many times aside from the ones we just mentioned it it pops up
46:25
in. I feel like there's been several
46:27
TV shows. I think there's been like
46:29
episode of Star Trek I've seen where they do it and it was
46:32
definitely an episode of the Star Wars Clone Wars show.
46:35
Just to bring it back to the corporals one more time.
46:37
And the Mandalorian show did A7 samurai episode.
46:41
Yep. It was like 2 samurai.
46:44
It's, yeah, that's what they called it.
46:46
It's just it's a really easy story to adapt, I guess.
46:49
Yeah, and it's been done better in virtually every other example
46:53
that we have named. There is no value in this 2010's
46:57
Magnificent 7. Great love that.
47:01
Moving on next. We keep getting I'm going to
47:06
hit, I'm going to hit the wheel, I'm going to hit it a few times
47:09
just to mix, you know, just to wake it up.
47:11
There are no, there's no rules. There's no rules against how
47:15
often you hit the button. That's fine.
47:16
She's. Going to land on a number I like
47:18
#6 number six. Oh gosh, you, you've got to be
47:24
kidding me. Number six is 2013's because
47:29
it's obviously it's going to start with a number on the
47:30
alphabetized list. 2013's 12 Years a Slave.
47:37
Damn damn, we got some bummers this episode.
47:38
This is the biggest Rayman bummer I've ever experienced,
47:42
and we've done it three times. So 12 Years a Slave was an Oscar
47:47
film to me very much like it was made, with a very, like heavy
47:52
emphasis on the lead performers getting a chance to earn, you
47:55
know, best actor nominations. And I think it did.
47:59
I think so too. I definitely think it did.
48:02
I don't recall if it has source material, like if it's an
48:04
adapted from like a book or someone's biography, but it is a
48:08
very harrowing story about a man in the American South during the
48:13
time of slavery who I think was maybe a free man and then got
48:18
like captured and made into a slave anyway.
48:22
You know, like just talking to some horrible injustice to start
48:25
the movie. And then he spends 12 years as a
48:28
slave and then maybe by the very end of the story is free.
48:32
But it was, if I'm if I'm remembering correctly, the lead
48:35
was Chiwetel Ejiofor. Is that right?
48:38
Yeah, I think so. This was a huge movie at the
48:40
time. It was like you said it was.
48:42
It was a big Oscar movie that year.
48:45
Yes, Chiwetel Ejiofor was the lead.
48:46
Michael Fassbender was the big racist guy, I think.
48:50
I guess Brad Pitt was in it too. Oh, what?
48:53
OK. Actually, yeah, this is a pretty
48:55
stacked cast. There's more people in this than
48:56
I remember. Benedict Cumberbatch was in the
48:57
movie, just a who's who of popular actors.
49:02
This might have been because one of the other people in it is
49:05
Lupita Nyong'o, and I think this might have been like a breakout
49:08
role for her. Yeah, she's done a lot of stuff
49:11
since this movie, but at the time it might have been like a
49:14
breakout performance. Yeah.
49:18
So I mean, really, how much you enjoy this film is kind of just
49:23
like how much interest do you have in heavy historical dramas
49:29
about really messed up times in history, which there's a lot of
49:33
those. So of them, this is a pretty
49:35
good one. I will say I don't watch movies
49:38
like this a lot. Sure, sure.
49:43
There's a lot of artistic value and historical value in this
49:46
type of film and this type of story, but it's really
49:50
depressing and if that's not what you go to the movies for,
49:53
then probably not going to like this one.
49:56
But I cannot deny it was a very well made film.
49:58
Let me see who directed it. Directed by Steve McQueen, who
50:04
also did 2011's Shame, It looks like this is Maybe This might be
50:07
Steve Mcqueen's biggest film, but he has also made a number of
50:10
other popular dramas. That's the guy from Cars, right?
50:15
That's the guy from Cars. OK, 12 Years a Slave, It's going
50:23
towards the top for sure. I mean, it's a very solid movie
50:27
with a lot of acclaim for good reason, I would say.
50:31
I mean, it's in the top ten probably, right?
50:35
Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:37
I'd say it's even. I'd put it above Hot Fuzz.
50:41
Yeah, I got no problem putting it above above Hot Fuzz.
50:44
I don't know how much else to put it above because I will say,
50:49
does anybody talk about the movie now?
50:51
It's definitely one of those film titles where if you
50:54
mentioned it, people would be like, Oh yeah, I, I know that
50:56
movie. So it has staying power.
51:01
It, it, it, it left a cultural impact.
51:03
So I think it gets a lot of points for that.
51:07
Maybe hear me out, We we put it above my little block of 80s
51:12
movies that I like that are currently towards the top.
51:15
We could put 12 years in at #5. Yeah.
51:20
Let's do that. We got a new top five movie.
51:22
Let's do that this. This is part of the just the
51:25
challenge of the dichotomy of films of comparing like a silly
51:31
movie that you really like. Because right above that right
51:33
now is Attack of the Clones. Mention that we didn't put it
51:36
above Attack of the Clones. Yeah, I'm doing it.
51:39
I'm. I'm going to be honest, I'm
51:40
going to shoot straight with the audience here.
51:42
We did not put it above Attack of the Clones, but that's just
51:45
like that. That's the world of film.
51:48
There's so it's such a broad spectrum of what you can do.
51:52
It's same with like those documentaries.
51:54
The documentary could be so many different things.
51:56
The film could be so many different things.
51:57
Are you trying to tell me that it is not effective, efficient
52:01
or sensical to try to rank every movie ever made on one list?
52:06
Let's do the next one. Let's.
52:08
Do the next one let's try to get.
52:10
I think if we get two more in then we'll have 30 movies total.
52:13
That sounds good. That's a good start.
52:15
How many could there be? How many could there be?
52:17
We're probably like halfway done.
52:19
I'm tired 971. Me too.
52:23
Me too, bud. OK, this is more middle ground,
52:28
Frank. We saw this movie in the
52:30
theater. I don't think either of us liked
52:32
it. 2015 Project Almanac. What?
52:39
No, you remember Project Almanac.
52:42
It's a tell. Me.
52:43
More words than that. No, it's a found footage time
52:48
travel movie about these kids, teenagers who discover that they
52:53
have a machine that lets them go back in time they find.
52:55
It. Somebody's attic.
52:58
And then they initially have all these like rules about how they
53:02
only go back as a whole group and how they try not to change
53:05
too many things. But then the main character ends
53:07
up trying to change too many things about the past in order
53:11
to essentially get with this girl that he likes, and
53:15
eventually it unravels and starts to ruin the lives of
53:18
everyone involved and it's the whole thing.
53:21
That might be worse than Kingsman, honestly.
53:24
It was bad. It's a bad film.
53:27
Neither of us liked it. I don't know why we saw it.
53:30
Yeah, I feel like I've been, like, repressing that movie.
53:33
Like you told me the title, and I was like, I have no memory of
53:36
this place. And then you start to describe
53:39
it, and it was like these dark emotions started coming up and I
53:42
was like, oh. Yeah.
53:43
That movie was awful. I was there 3000 years ago.
53:49
Yeah, yeah. Destroy it, throw it in the.
53:52
Fire the. Magic Dominic stinks.
53:56
It's it's not good. The found footage aspect of it
53:59
is like a horrible gimmick that the movie struggles to work
54:02
around because everything that you're being shown was
54:05
supposedly captured on like one guy's camcorder.
54:08
And so they they just always have to find a place to put the
54:10
camcorder, even though they're moving and going places and it
54:14
just does not work. It's stupid.
54:17
Let's do the next one. It's the bottom, the bottom of
54:19
the list. Project home now.
54:21
Terrible film. One more terrible.
54:23
One unamas. All right, this is OK #40 #30 is
54:28
going to be #40. #30 is number 40.
54:31
That sounds like a Riddle. OK #40 a little bit more of a
54:38
crowd pleaser. Although it's a horror film,
54:40
2018's A Quiet Place. Oh, I haven't seen that.
54:45
You haven't seen a fireplace? Oh my gosh, do you even like
54:48
movies? Not really.
54:53
Why did I see this and you didn't?
54:55
I don't even. Watch horror movies.
54:58
That's a big that's a big movie. That's a big.
55:01
Movie. It had multiple.
55:02
Opinions about that? Yeah.
55:04
People liked it enough. It's a story about a apocalypse
55:10
scenario of sorts, where these aliens arrived on Earth that
55:13
cannot see but are extremely sensitive to sound.
55:17
And so the only way that some humans have survived a couple of
55:20
years in is by making absolutely no noise.
55:23
And so your whole film is this family of four, including Jim
55:28
from The Office. What's his name?
55:31
John Krasinski. John Krasinski and Emily Blunt,
55:35
who I think are married IRL. They're the couple in the film
55:38
and they're trying to live in safety with their two children
55:41
while evading the evil murder monsters.
55:46
I think he had a a large part in the making of that movie.
55:50
I think he was possibly the writer, director, producer,
55:53
question mark. He, he, he, he was more than
55:55
just the lead in in. That it was his project.
55:57
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a Kaczynski project.
55:59
And again, like you said, had pop culture impact.
56:00
People were riffing on it. There was SNL skits about it.
56:04
There's been two sequels, if not 3.
56:07
Frankly, I don't get it. I thought it is.
56:12
It's OK. I think it just had a unique
56:17
premise and a lot of horror movies will get by on that.
56:23
That's true. That's true.
56:25
It's just a gimmick for you to understand the nature of the
56:27
danger. And I guess given how much
56:29
horror is about people screaming, the idea that you
56:30
can't make noise, it's kind of different.
56:32
Yeah, people really, there's just something base and like
56:37
instinctual people really respond to horror movies.
56:41
And I think from a marketing perspective, if you have a
56:46
horror movie with a simple, easy to understand gimmick, wasn't
56:51
there was another one that got kind of made fun of and memed on
56:54
a bit? Is that Sandra Bullock movie
56:56
like, oh, Bird Box? Bird Box.
56:59
Yeah, Yeah. Where she's like wearing the
57:01
blindfold. I haven't seen that one either,
57:02
but is it like? They're not allowed to see stuff
57:05
I don't. Know they're not allowed to.
57:06
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it makes sense to me why
57:11
Quiet Place took off, especially, again, people love
57:15
the office. It's it's gross how much people
57:18
love the office. And I think John Kaczynski,
57:22
like, really? Like the Star Wars prequels?
57:25
Like the Star Wars prequels you had Dum Dums.
57:31
My favorite part of his of A Quiet Place is when John
57:33
Kaczynski looks at his wife and goes You still thinking we still
57:35
going to die? And then Darth Drunk kills him.
57:44
I guess, OK, so you haven't seen it.
57:46
Quiet Place is a very competently made film, like one
57:50
of those ones that really tries to stick to the beats that are
57:53
in the script. The very beginning of the story,
57:56
they hit you with the tragedy upfront because the couple has
57:58
three children. And in the opening sequence, I
58:02
think they're going to like, raid an old store, like a gas
58:06
station shop or something. And there's this very quiet
58:11
scene where one of the younger kids, like the really little
58:14
ones, finds this little robot toy that, like, lights up and
58:17
makes noise and accidentally sets it off.
58:19
And like, the instant it happens, they're dead.
58:21
Like they just get swiped from off screen by one of these
58:23
monsters after a very long build up.
58:27
Yes, I actually saw just that exact scene recently somewhere,
58:32
and I immediately had a lot of questions.
58:34
And I'm sure other people have brought this up with this movie
58:36
too. But like, even in that scene,
58:39
like John Krasinski is like running towards his son to try
58:42
and save him. And it's like, why are the
58:45
monsters not attacking him? He's clearly making a lot of
58:49
noise. He's running over there.
58:51
It does have what? Are the rules.
58:54
Yeah, The whole movie has logistical issues where, like,
58:57
for example, nobody can speak above a very low whisper.
59:02
And then there's a scene early on in the first, actor John
59:05
Krasinski takes his son to this little spot he found that's next
59:08
to a waterfall. And he says, like, we can talk
59:11
here. The noise of the water is louder
59:13
than us. They wouldn't be able to trace.
59:15
Like they won't hear it. So we can talk normally, albeit
59:18
with this loud noise behind us. And I was like, why don't you
59:21
live next to the waterfall? Why did.
59:23
Yeah. If.
59:24
They're never going to go just yeah, have like a white noise
59:28
machine on in your apartment and you'll be fine.
59:32
I think that a lot of the questions people had was just
59:34
like, how did these things beat the military?
59:37
Because I think the weakness of the monsters by the end of the
59:39
first movie is just that they're really vulnerable to a specific
59:42
frequency of sound that like makes them just die.
59:45
And it's like the military couldn't figure this out in what
59:49
would probably have been a decent amount of time.
59:51
I get that they're like supposed supposed to be borderline
59:54
indestructible aside from that weakness, but seems fishy.
59:58
There's there's a lot of logical gaps that you need to just
1:00:05
ignore to appreciate a movie like that.
1:00:07
And another thing, how did Michael Myers survive all those
1:00:10
times he got killed? Doesn't make sense.
1:00:13
Really doesn't make sense. Think about it.
1:00:18
Yeah, that's what I mean though. It's it's when you're watching a
1:00:21
horror movie, you're not really. I guess they're to ask those
1:00:24
kinds of questions. But.
1:00:27
When you have kind of a concept like that, it's also kind of
1:00:30
hard not to. So I'm sure we're not the first
1:00:34
people to bring up these kind of complaints with that movie.
1:00:36
But like you said, they keep making sequels, so clearly it's
1:00:39
not enough of an issue. Yeah, it's a.
1:00:41
Real Cinemasins type movie. Like actually that doesn't even
1:00:45
make sense. And it's like, well, it's really
1:00:46
a story about family. But oh, actually, you know what
1:00:50
the scariest part of the whole movie is, is they do this whole
1:00:52
setup about they have a basement with these like Crick, like
1:00:56
rickety wooden stairs down to the basement.
1:00:57
And at one point, like a really big like nail gets uprooted and
1:01:02
it's just sticking straight up. And they spend like 10 minutes
1:01:05
teasing that Emily Blunt is going to just like step foot
1:01:08
first in her bare feet on a big sharp nail.
1:01:11
And it's the most upsetting thing in the whole movie.
1:01:15
Wait, so she's like slowly trying to go down the stairs
1:01:17
without making noise? And you see this big upright
1:01:20
like rusty nail and they're like, oh, she goes scream if she
1:01:22
steps on that nail. And then I think she does and.
1:01:25
Then she has to not scream. And then yeah, I think that's
1:01:28
the beat is her. She has to like be in a ton of
1:01:30
pain, but like not make a bunch of noise.
1:01:32
So anyway, it's fine. You might have noticed Frank on
1:01:34
our list. I was typing while we were
1:01:35
talking. Quiet Place found its way right
1:01:37
below loop in the third. Yeah, yeah, I'm OK with that.
1:01:41
Just above the Big Short line, which is to say perfectly good
1:01:44
movies. Go above that line and A Quiet
1:01:46
Place is perfectly good. I, I don't know, I just didn't
1:01:49
do anything much for me beyond the initial premise.
1:01:52
Sure. Yeah, I can.
1:01:53
I'm. I'm surprised you even watched
1:01:54
it, but me too. I.
1:01:56
Thought I watched it by myself, I don't even know why.
1:01:59
Because if there was anyone else there, you would have made too
1:02:01
much noise. That's quiet, and then the movie
1:02:03
would have got me. The movie would have got you
1:02:06
jumped right out of the screen. Boo scary.
1:02:09
Anyway, that makes for I think we ranked ten movies today and
1:02:13
we're over our hour. So we need to to start our wrap
1:02:16
up, Frank, we've done it again, our third episode, our ongoing
1:02:20
journey of ranking every movie ever made.
1:02:22
How do you think we're doing? Well, we got a, we got a new
1:02:25
number one and a new number, the bottom this time, so.
1:02:29
Number the bottom. That's right.
1:02:31
That's pretty good. I think that's progress.
1:02:34
I feel like the wheel that controls our faith threw us a
1:02:37
bone at the beginning by giving us Revenge of the Sith and then
1:02:39
stomped on us for the rest of the episode.
1:02:41
Just random obscure stuff. Documentaries like old animated
1:02:48
movies. Playoffs.
1:02:50
Talk about playoffs. I'd.
1:02:52
Rather, talk about playoffs. So yeah, I mean, again, this is
1:02:56
the premise. We had fun.
1:02:57
The first episode was gibberish. The second episode we had a ton
1:03:00
of crowd favorites. This one, this is where the real
1:03:03
work began. We really have to start sifting.
1:03:06
Yeah, yeah. And that's, that's, that's what
1:03:08
we're here for. We're here to put in the work.
1:03:10
Because. People need to know to rank
1:03:14
every movie ever made. And when the list is done and
1:03:17
the Smithsonian pays us for it, will it'll it'll really be have
1:03:21
been worth it. Is that who's going to pay us?
1:03:24
The Smithsonian. The Smithsonian Museum.
1:03:27
Is that what do they what do they do there normally?
1:03:30
By list are they? Just waiting?
1:03:31
Do they just have like an empty room that's waiting for this
1:03:34
list to go into it? I think so.
1:03:37
It'll be a modern art piece. I do think I forgot to mention
1:03:41
this in our previous two, but for the listeners at home,
1:03:44
you're free to help us make the list.
1:03:46
I would say that if you're listening to this right now on
1:03:48
YouTube or Spotify or Apple Music, leave a comment.
1:03:51
Tell us any movie that you watched this week, whether it
1:03:54
was good or bad, and where it should fit on the list as it
1:03:57
stands right now. And I'll be honest, I might just
1:04:00
blindly accept people's rationale and just put it there.
1:04:03
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm starting to
1:04:05
think this might take a while. So if people want to help us
1:04:08
speed it up. Got to get this thing moving.
1:04:14
Yeah, again, let us know. Let us know your thoughts on the
1:04:16
episode. Let us know if we were wrong
1:04:18
about anything this time around. Should Revenge of the Sith be
1:04:20
even higher than #1? Perhaps.
1:04:23
I was considering it. I was considering making like a
1:04:26
0 but. You know, upper echelon S plus
1:04:29
rank. Yeah, exactly.
1:04:32
But yeah, let us know just a movie you saw where it should go
1:04:34
on the list and we will include some of those when we record
1:04:37
next time. Frank, thank you so much again
1:04:39
for joining me. Anything specific to plug or are
1:04:41
we out? I'm just going to throw it back
1:04:43
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it constantly, but it did just come out.
1:05:08
So this is kind of our. Review I never made that promise
1:05:11
so. Frank has not made that promise.
1:05:13
It's the only reason he's here. He's here to talk about a quiet
1:05:16
place and chew bubble gum, and he's never seen a quiet place.
1:05:20
Yeah, and I don't like bubble gum, but it's gonna be Yeah,
1:05:27
then that movie's going to be on the list, too.
1:05:29
But we'll, I'm sure at one point we'll pull Nate and Ryan Venice
1:05:33
and it'll land on there. It'll go up there pretty high up
1:05:36
there, as we keep saying. But yeah, that'll do it for this
1:05:40
episode. Let us know if you want to see
1:05:42
more from this series. Let us know movies you've seen
1:05:44
recently and where they should go.
1:05:46
And until next time this has been Meet Your Double feature.
1:05:50
Yes, well. Yeah, that's the show that we
1:05:53
do. Oh, oh, oh.
1:05:55
Yeah, you've been recording, right?
1:05:57
You've been recording your microphone.
1:05:59
I think so. I well, I got you here.
1:06:02
I got a question. So if you took like a football
1:06:06
team, right, and like a like a Pro Football team and like a pro
1:06:10
baseball team, right, and then you made them play like
1:06:14
basketball against each other, who do you think would win that?
1:06:20
Good night everybody.