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If You Were a Real Man You Wouldn't Need a Map! | Maintaining Frame 62 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. I am your host Alice and
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  Demon and this is maintaining frame number sixty two. If you were a man,
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  you wouldn't need a map. I am joined by Brian Martinez, the
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  Illustrious and Serene Doge and we are here your hosts to delve into this new
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  hmm pit of mendaciousness. Well, at least the at least feminist or feminist
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  inclined individuals are realizing that there is a huge gap when you decide not to
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  define masculinity as pro social in any way, and then you start getting things
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  are you start getting phenomenon that maybe a little less desirable, so or for
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  better or for worst worst, I everything is now on me, at least
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  in terms. Yeah. Well, I mean Brian is helping me out,
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  but I am trying. Yeah, so Alison is doing she is actually hosting
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  the stream from um Bffie Kelvington and UM so you know if they're because I
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  do see that, UM there is a lower quality of like the the actual
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  bit rate, you know, so guys are experiencing Yeah, so if you
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  guys are experiencing like you know, maybe the resolution is worse or something like
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  that. Um that is because probably uh you know, Alison is hosting it
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  from Kelvington. But look, but it looks it looks good. Though it
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  looks good. I'm just getting warnings. But I don't see any problems.
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  Yeah, so if you guys experience any problems, let us know. Ye.
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  Yeah, in this case, I mean it's Elon Musk's fault or something.
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  Yeah. Well we are on starlink. Let's this is one of the
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  reasons why you dared to do this because, as you or may not know,
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  Helvington's internet is well the local internet is run by vols. Though it's
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  not not not fantastic. Yeah, but we are live and it looks like
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  it's working. So yep, well we'll just we'll just see how it goes.
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  I'll keep watching, so I'll be watching the chat. And um if
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  and Alison, if you have any um, so, there won't be a
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  Jojo cam because JoJo's with me, not with her, so um and I
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  didn't. I guess there wasn't enough time to set up like a skippy cam.
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  But hm, well I don't really have a Skippy with me at the
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  moment. Yeah, and I don't know that he would sit still in experience.
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  Oh. Thurland Ray says, I got the volume turned up all the
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  way and it's still soft. Oh soft, oh oh. And Meredith ge
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  says, you realize there are two versions of this stream in YouTube? What
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  interest was getting? I was getting no data? Okay, so why don't
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  you kill one? Kill one if you're if you're watching this on restream dot
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  io, stay there, and I'm gonna close the other one. UM,
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  I don't know, see that that was the thing I was afraid of.
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  Um, I'm gonna make it. There has to be yeah, delete forever.
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  And these are the exciting shenanigans that occur at Honey Badger. If you
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  were over here, yes, my great people, my great yeah, yeah
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  we we we like an audience that you know is always on its toes problem
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  solvers, you see, not complacent, ready, ready to move into action,
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  all at a moment's notice. Right, all right, rumble seems to
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  be fine though, So you can also just go over there, yes,
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  okay, yeah, you might have an ULTERI okay, okay, I will
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  try to increase the volume on both of us and see what happens is if
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  I increase, I think I'm at max. I apologize, folks. I'm
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  just I can I can do this. I can do this. Maybe this
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  will help. Um that might be significantly louder. I'm going to pull it
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  down. Yes, I'm raising the volume. I know, I know,
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  but are you doing it in restream or are you doing it on your microphone?
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  Or I'm doing it in stream labs? So hopefully all right, keep
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  us, keep us posted, Thurlin ray, if that, if that was
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  better, if this is better. So I've just pumped myself up, and
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  I've bumped Brian up. In fact, I'm almost in the red here.
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  So if you're having issues with it still, I might be it might be
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  that maybe like what we're you're looking at is not the same as what they're
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  listening to. Oh no, most definitely. It's just that the disconnect.
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  We can't there's no way to connect this disconnect, sir, You'll just have
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  to suffer, all right, Okay, So all right, this article,
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  Yeah, I recall, I mean, I've read a lot of stuff since
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  I read this, but I recall that this was both very sad and very
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  amusing at the same time, Like it is sad musing sad musing. Yeah,
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  all right, so it's by Christine Emba. I think it would be
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  probably best if I read it, although that would not be the most fun.
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  But it is an opinion piece and it is called men are Lost.
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  Here is a map out of the wilderness. Somehow I'm guessing that this map
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  is not out of the wilderness and will in fact lead men to a chasm
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  of andrea of even more despair. Yeah, I have I have my doubts
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  that the woke who will ever give a man any kind of map that has
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  any good faith involved in its construction? I just can I just comment on
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  this art So it's it's well made, but I'm looking at what it's communicating.
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  Yeah, so I can already see where this article is going based on
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  this artwork. I don't know, I mean, do you know what I
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  mean. It's funny. It's funny how these people they have this like they
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  they claim to understand men, but they always present a stereotype and I mean
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  like a really narrow stereotype of what men not just are, but what they
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  want to be. And it's like it's so, it's it's just kind of
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  gross to me. It is. It's it's just really gross to me.
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  So and I know that I'm often accused of, you know, um,
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  I don't know being a masculine advocate or masculine the advocate, but I think
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  that I do. I do get accused of it, I know. I
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  think I think that, you know, like men should be able to choose
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  whatever they want, but that also includes, like, you know, being
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  I guess what feminists would consider toxic, toxically masculine. I think that that
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  is included, you know that, like like when when you see a toxic
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  masculine the feminist definition is pretty much traditionally masculine or masculine hegemony. Or actually,
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  honestly, I think the real, real, honest definition of feminist toxic
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  masculinity is recognizing that men have any positive traits in excess to women. So,
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  in other words, recognizing, for example, that men are more focused
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  on creating and seeking out meritocracies, which means there's a lot of productivity and
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  other kinds of stuff that comes out of meritocracies, but we can't recognize that
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  because that would be a positive to masculinity. I think what feminist term toxic
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  masculinity, if you really look at it, just means recognizing anything positive about
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  masculinity. Yeah, yeah, well for sure, of course. But I
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  guess what I'm getting at is is that, like I if anybody has any
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  confusion or doubt about it, I believe that men are a masculinity is expressed
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  in fall are more diverse ways than the way that feminists painted. Right,
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  So when they think of it, it's always you know, going to the
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  gym, getting buff, growing a beer, drinking beer with your friends,
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  like, you know, hitting on women like in a blatant chauvinist way,
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  running big businesses, being greedy like all of these things. And it's like
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  there are men like that, and that's okay, like that, you know,
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  but but there are also men that are intellectual there. I mean,
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  I think that men are far more diverse, and I think part of the
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  reason for that is because of um, let's say, evolutionary pressure, like
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  sexual reproductive pressure that to excel at something, and so men excel at different
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  things, so like this, yeah, all kinds of different things. So
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  like when they when they target masculinity, they're always painting this really narrow picture
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  of a really like it's like Gueston from Beauty and the Beast, right,
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  That's that's basically what they do. It's like you know, it's the Don
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  from like the Captain Marvel movie. It's that guy, and it's like,
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  that's not what men are. But you know what, there's nothing wrong with
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  that guy either, you know. And that's what I'm saying, you know,
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  Yeah, what was wrong really if you think about it, if you
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  take away Gaston's really toxic competition with the Beast and uh, what was really
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  that bad about Gaston? The fact that he was fixated on him who they
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  had to but they had to make Gaston into uh like basically he was he
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  was a what is it? Um? He wasn't just a stereotype. He
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  was a strong man of men. Yeah, so they made they made him
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  into like he talked like mighty Mouse. Like that was on purpose, right,
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  they they just they blew it like no men act like that, That's
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  what I'm saying. Yeah, of course, because they wanted to make the
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  Beast seem less of a dick in in comparison. Yeah, which is beast?
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  It is Matt It was Gaston before he was cursed, yeah, or
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  something like that. Their foils. But really Gaston's album, well, first
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  of all, why was he so fascinated her? Because she was the only
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  woman that would turn him down. And again this is like a negative like
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  badge stereotype, that there are men that pursue women simply because those women would,
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  like you know, are a challenge and they don't see it as as
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  you know, that she might be virtuous and that he might genuinely be interested
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  in her. I mean, we we're getting into the weeks. But all
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  I would say is that the whole renaissance, the Disney Renaissance films like The
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  Little Mermaid and and BB the Beats and all that those are all feminist movies,
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  like you can you can see it compared to like the original like Golden
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  Age of Disney. Those are feminist movies. It's just that by those standards,
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  like by today's standards, those seem regressive, because feminism never never looks
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  back, it only goes forward and gets more and more radical. And the
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  fact that Belle was into books and her father was an inventor and she was
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  really smart and all, that's all obviously feminist shit. And when they remade
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  it later with Emma Watson, they just doubled down at the same thing.
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  And to get even further right, I'm gonna blow your mind. I'm gonna
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  blow. We're ever love and mind. This whole idea of women being uniquely
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  victims, you see it in almost every literature I've ever read, like except
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  maybe the Romans. The Romans weren't were they didn't jibe with that shit.
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  But but everybody, every other culture like if they if they were, if
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  they used writing, they always had they Oh poor pity the women's they suffer
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  most kind of thing, Like every freaking culture believe that it's we're not unique.
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  It's just that feminists have not just oh pity the women, but also
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  oh pity the women, and remove any recognition that men do anything good at
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  all. So that feminists have really driven that into the ground. And but
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  here now they're giving us a map. Here's a map out of the wilderness.
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  And incidentally, the wilderness is basically our society's inability to recognize anything good
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  about that's the wilderness, right that we can't we can't accept that there's anything
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  that men add to society in a pro social way that benefits everybody, because
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  that would be admitting that there's something that women aren't. And incidentally, once
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  you once you basically make women everything, you you basically make women nothing.
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  Like definitions are as much created by their limitations than what they what they are.
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  So if women are everything because men are nothing because they can't be anything,
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  um, then yeah, what is a woman? We don't know,
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  but a universe, the universe, and every grain of sand in it is
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  a woman. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, you're right, yeah,
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  yeah, absolutely, Okay, all right, So here we are at
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  the beginning of this, and I just want to remind everyone because I could
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  do the things. I could just segue into the things by myself because I'm
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  right here. Um, I want to remind everyone. Getting the squirrel in
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  the forbidden word it. Okay, um, here we go, let
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  me see here's oh oh. And also, if you want to support the
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  show, feed the Badger dot com slash support men are lost. Here is
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  a map out of the wilderness by Christine Emba. Christine Emba, I really
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  I wonder if I clicked on her i'd find her the rest of her her
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  work. Yeah, you while you're doing that, okay, okay, okay.
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  I noticed it a few years ago, men, especially young men,
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  getting aired. Weird, oh weird? Okay. It might have been the
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  in cells who first caught my attention, spewing self pitying venom online, sometimes
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  venturing out to attack the women they had believed done them wrong. Oh boy,
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  and we're just we're just very easy, so easy to do that.
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  Yeah, we're just gonna forget them. We're just going to forget the radfems
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  who are unbelievably toxic and for some reason, a lot of lesbian separatists.
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  I believe they are refer to their rhetoric after having been arrested for abusing,
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  torturing, or raping their boy children to death. So you know, I
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  mean, I'm not saying that there's a I suppose we can't say that there's
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  a direct correlation between lesbian separatists rhetoric about killing men and these lesbian separatists actually
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  killing their sons. But you know, there just seems to be an alarming
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  causality there, and probably just as much causality between those two things, and
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  in cells and these mass shootings. All right. I mean, if you're
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  gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna make a connection between one,
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  there's just as much of a connection between the other as well. That's a
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  really dark place to go right off the bat, but keep going. It
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  might have been the complaints from the women around me. Men are in their
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  flop era. Okay, I don't know what that means. It just it
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  sounds like it means that men are are struggling and I'm not attracted them anymore,
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  and it's their faults or something. One lamented sick of tried date in
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  a pool that seems shallower like it might have been the new ways companies were
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  trying to reach men. The average hoodie made these days is weak, flimsy,
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  growled a YouTube ad for tactical hoodie. You're not a child, You're
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  a man. We'll stop wearing so many larriers to go outside. Boy,
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  that is one hell of a stretch. Christine, I've seen those ads.
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  They're just trying to sell hoodies. Yeah, oh my god, it's the
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  not at manufacturers go touch grass. Yeah, they're just cringing ads. I've
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  seen them come on. Okay, at once my curiosity was peaked, I
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  could see a bit of curdling, and some of the men around me too.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I wonder why I've started to suspect that this map
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  that Castrine Christine, I'm sorry for that accidental innuendo plus Tredian slip plus me
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  not being able to pronounce a damn thing. Um, I'm pretty sure that
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  the map that Castrine is giving men is basically just a paper that says you're
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  awful. It doesn't sound like there's a whole lot of sympathy. Nope,
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  just just based on what I've seen so far. But yeah, right,
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  go ahead. Some guys, including ones I once knew, just quietly disappeared,
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  subsumed into video games of porn, or sucked into the alt right in
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  the web of misogynist communities known as the mentosphere. How the hell he got
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  sucked into the alt right and a web of misogynistic communities. I'm pressing exit
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  out on that. If they were better friends, yeah, if they were
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  your friends, and you are, I assume a progressive feminist, what could
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  have caught Like how close could you really have been to begin with? Or
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  did you drive them over there by being obnoxious and uh, insufferable? And
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  maybe they were like, oh, I'm gonna you know, I need help,
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  like like meeting people. I can't make any friends. I'm lonely.
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  I'm I can't find a woman. I don't know how to relate to them.
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  These men over here know how to relate to them. Oh no,
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  I'm in the alt right now? Like what, I don't buy it?
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  I don't buy it. Sorry, don't buy it. Okay, I don't
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  buy it from from start to finish, because are these guys gonna be like,
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  oh yeah, now I'm at the alt right? No, this is
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  this is all just she's making up and from these Yeah, it's important to
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  note though that like the Manisphere is the alt right with these people, So
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  there's no point in sort of like trying to um dismantle the case that the
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  Manisphere is not y'ault right, um, because they don't care, Like it's
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  all about like, what is the label I'm going to use to demonize this
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  group that I don't like. So in Cells, she's alway, we're what
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  three two paragraphs in, she's already said in cells Okay, So basically,
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  the forest that men are in is a forest of shaming, a forest the
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  condemnation of their interests, a forest of a condemnation of their presence, of
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  them even going up and talking to women. You know, it's it's just
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  this, this endless forest of shame. And so far, all I see
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  that she's doing is just planting more trees, not build not building a not
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  building a map, and usually be behind planting trees, but not in the
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  forest of shame. Okay, there are female trees. Yeah, of course,
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  right, we wouldn't want to be perpetuating biological sexism. Yeah, oh
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  good luck. And it's so funny because the instant men and just spend a
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  little bit of time concerned with their own issues. Women like this are screeching
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  about Oh my god, they're curdling, they're stopping and taking care of themselves
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  and bending, they're pandaging their own wounds and actually having relationships with of how
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  women are oppressed by tree Bookhaki. Yeah, exactly, all right, all
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  right, what's what's next? Yeah? More, Sorry for there is a
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  little bit of buffering, but I think we're still steady, so yeah,
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  we're good. Go on, ok okay, what I see that he sent
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  us a cryptic little thing? Well, yeah, it's the buffering. Low
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  let's yeah, go on, just let's just let's just power through it.
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  I don't know that there's much we can do, especially now if the stream
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  has already started. So you know what, I'm going to address these super
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  chows before we continue. So we don't have a hell of a lot.
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  This isn't a really long article. It has a it has the benefit of
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  being brief. Okay, So Meredith and t sent us five bucks, and
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  you can do all the super chats by the way, maintaining frame sixty two.
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  Honey for the badgers. If you're a man lost and a feminist woman
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  comes to you offering salvation, run don't walk as fast as far as you
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  can. You'll find yourself faster than if you took the woman's advice. Are
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  you kidding? Yeah? Absolutely absolutely, And you know that she's not even
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  mentioning suicide. Really, like, I'm pretty sure there are more managers.
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  Yeah, there are more men committing suicide than getting involved in any of these
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  communities. Well maybe not. Andrew Tate is pretty popular, but all right,
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  he's John Cena. I don't know how to say that, so I
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  won't. I actually might have a sound effect for that. His name is
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  John Saxe. You know, I can actually hear that this is this is
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  awesome, you know, like I don't you don't clip off. I can
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  hear your sound effects. This is this is really cool. It's too bad
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  that my internet is so crap because I can actually I feel like this is
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  a little bit better. All yeah. I managed to move all of my
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  all of the things I have set up into a OBS which is a more
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  stable platform in terms of how it runs. So I'm gonna try it next
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  time. Maybe you'll be able to hear that stuff. How much to get
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  Alison to read the article in our gout Valley Girl Voice, you put two
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  hundred bucks in that damn fundraiser or five hundreds because I probably five because I
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  don't want my vocal cords to be destroyed. But Richard, you're you're,
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  you're pledging quite a bit. So that's a lot of nothing, you know,
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  for for just a whole bunch of vocal fry. But I tell you
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  what you do that, I will you put something in the fundraiser, and
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  I'll do it for as long as I can maintain it until until I feel
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  like an up talk. Yeah, that's that's a lot of tension on my
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  vocal cords. Want to pass out. But anyway, the weirdness manifest Oh
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  my good lord, oh my god. Sorry. I just you know how
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  you read and you can see a few sentences ahead, and you know it's
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  coming. You know. The weirdness manifested in the national national political scene too,
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  in the four chair fuel twoy sixteen Trump campaign and the backlash too hashtag
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  me too. You mean Okay, let's let's just look at the back blacklash
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  to hashtag me too. You know, the biggest backlash you guys in the
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  me too movement. You won't let Johnny Depp go. You won't be like,
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  you know, we fucked up. Maybe false accusations are a thing.
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  And you know what if if a millionaire false accusation gave it, she's she's
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  pretty marginal from us, some awful witch. Maybe the average man has no
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  chance in hell. You know, all of that narrative around that, that's
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  what you're talking about. And believe me, the black clash against me too
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  is pretty much driven by women now because it's all about like Johnny Depp.
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  That's that was the flashpoint for that. They refuse to acknowledge it. In
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  amateur militias during the Black Lives Matter protect you're going to call them the amateur
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  militias and not the gedam What amateur militias? Oh? Yeah, the people
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  that were like protect Oh you mean like like Kyle Rittenhouse, You mean,
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  like the people that were trying to protect the property of other people. You
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  mean, like like David Dorn who was murdered because you know, a black
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  cop by the way, Yeah, Okay, we'll call those guys amateur militias.
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  I'm sure, I'm sorry, go on. Yeah, it's a little
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  infuriating. Okay, all right, So misogynistic text thread chatter took physical form
• 24:52
  and the Proud Boys, some of whom attacked the capital on January sixth,
• 24:56
  twenty twenty one. Uh well, yeah, but I mean they don't care.
• 25:06
  Well, let me put it this way. People who actually gave a
• 25:08
  shit about the facts looked into these things, but the mainstream media they have
• 25:14
  doubled down. They haven't changed their tune at all. And this woman either
• 25:18
  knows that and doesn't care, which I think is more likely the case,
• 25:22
  and so she's just going to keep on lying with the rest of them,
• 25:23
  or she's ignorant. And I think like saying that she knows and she just
• 25:29
  doesn't care, I think is a better compliment that you know, than she's
• 25:33
  just stupid and doesn't know. So I'm gonna go with that because I'm I
• 25:36
  like women like that. I flatter I'm flattering her by saying you're being intentionally
• 25:41
  deceitful. Okay, uh, misogynistic text chatter, Okay, take all right,
• 25:47
  I already read that. My god, you know. I always was
• 25:48
  like, oh, Brian, you're rereading all of these freaking sentences just what
• 25:52
  you want. You want flexibility and masculinity, many of them ugly, all
• 25:56
  gesturing towards a desire to belong. Uh No, you don't want them to
• 26:03
  be flexible, you want them to be submissive. Yeah, but even and
• 26:06
  then you hate and then you hate them for it. Well, Antifa does
• 26:10
  what they're told. But you see she's not calling them out because they serve
• 26:15
  the feminists. All right, when you take away people's identity like this is
• 26:18
  something that Marshall Marshall McLuhan, I'm pretty sure I got that right. When
• 26:22
  you take away people's identities, they resort to violence, and not all of
• 26:27
  them, like most men are just going to kill themselves. Let's be frank,
• 26:30
  Well it's still violence, violence on yourself. Yeah, yeah, okay.
• 26:36
  It felt like a widespread identity crists, as if they didn't know how
• 26:41
  to be Well, yes, because you said that they was there was no
• 26:47
  legitimate way for men to be like you look at the stuff you've been telling
• 26:52
  pen that they associate with men in the same way they associate toxic qualities.
• 26:56
  They never can I mean, they might be able to answer it superficially,
• 27:00
  but once you probe it a bit, they're like, no, actually,
• 27:03
  this is just a quality that is equally you know, equally or more women
• 27:07
  have, but men can also have it, you know. And I'm like,
• 27:11
  that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about identify a unique contribution
• 27:17
  that men and masculinity gives to society that women don't. I mean, it's
• 27:22
  not to say that women can't completely and maybe they can, but they don't
• 27:27
  as a whole do it. And if they do do it, they tend
• 27:32
  to be more masculine women. You go, go tell me that that positive
• 27:34
  quality. They can't do it. So they are saying that masculinity is an
• 27:41
  identity that contributes nothing at all. It has no vulnerabilities unlike the other spectrum
• 27:48
  of identities, and it has no positives. Oh you know that. Yeah,
• 27:56
  okay, this is what you did, feminist And you know, I
• 28:02
  can't even I can't even blame them because I think that they're mainly just a
• 28:06
  reaction to larger forces that they don't understand. Oh okay, this is an
• 28:11
  such an ongoing thing. Taylor Reynolds size. I had this kid show up
• 28:17
  well, I say, kid, but he's an undergraduate here. I mention
• 28:21
  them. Sometimes. He came over to my house and asked me if we
• 28:23
  could speak privately. Oh god, you know, Reynolds here really doesn't talk
• 28:32
  like a man. Is that a man, though, Taylor Reynolds, No,
• 28:37
  I've right beforeward. He it's a man size and says this is such
• 28:42
  Okay, I mean okay, that's fine. Jas and Cass is also male
• 28:47
  too, So sorry. I have this habit of like, you know what,
• 28:52
  I'll just do this right here. We can now look at this lovely
• 28:55
  paragraph as we go through it. Reynolds twenty to eight. Oh god,
• 29:00
  you're twenty eight. You know nothing? Is a doctoral student in Ivy League
• 29:04
  University. Wow, I said, you know nothing, You know negative nothing.
• 29:08
  He has framed pictures or like like pieces of paper with signatures and badges
• 29:15
  on it. That means he's smarter than he's better than everybody. The more
• 29:18
  of those pieces of paper you have on your wall, the better a person
• 29:21
  you are. So we should obviously listen to him, because if there's one
• 29:25
  thing that I've learned in the last five years is that the experts always know
• 29:29
  best. Always. Oh of course he is the science. I know,
• 29:36
  what's really funny is that every empire sort of has a cycle and then at
• 29:40
  the end. Um, what's really interesting is at the end m the specifically
• 29:45
  the health care of the particular civilization gets so bad that people just sit on
• 29:52
  the straight and ask passersbys how to deal with stuff. Yeah, this is
• 29:56
  like, this is this is common for every civil They go through this this
• 30:02
  cycle. And one of the signs that they're about to get caput is their
• 30:04
  doctors just just chant mumbo jumbo and uh. And they're part of an establishment
• 30:11
  that has absolutely no connection to actual health. Um. I'm not saying that
• 30:15
  that's where we're at, not saying, but I'm just saying that in general,
• 30:18
  end to California, I mean, you will find a lot of people
• 30:22
  sitting on the street. So yeah, well maybe the probably have doctorates.
• 30:29
  Oh boy, you salvage that one. Okay. With his full beard,
• 30:32
  mustache, and penchant for tweed sportscuts plus a winsome Southern accent courtesy of a
• 30:38
  childhoods bet in rural Georgia, he reads as much more mature than many of
• 30:41
  the professors roaming the campus. Oh God, why are you mentoring a doctoral
• 30:48
  student in what I oh, yeah, that's who knows masculinity studies, which
• 30:56
  is basically just feminist studies. And the first question this kid asked me is
• 31:02
  just what that That's it? I mean, this is the question you have
• 31:06
  to answer. You want to keep these young men from Andrew Tates or Jordan
• 31:11
  Peterson's I don't know why you want to keep them from Jordan Peterson, but
• 31:15
  apparently you do. Then you have to have a actual answer in the context
• 31:19
  of all of your liberal and woke ideas. And the problem is that you
• 31:22
  can't. You can't answer this essential question, which means that all of that,
• 31:27
  well, you've made it unanswerable by your own bigotry against men. And
• 31:33
  then and then we've created this yeah, well, and then the subsequent problem
• 31:37
  is that when you cannot give a definition for men, and in many cases,
• 31:42
  the definition for men is where the definition for women being you know ends
• 31:48
  okay, because the limitations are just as important of defining something as what it
• 31:52
  actually is. So men's are the limitations to women. And when you can't
• 31:59
  do that, you can to find women either. So you're just left with
• 32:02
  an ever increasing spiral into goop. All right, yeah, okay, Because
• 32:12
  anything positive about women now has to be accessible to men as well. See
• 32:16
  how what I'm saying like they have to take any positive trait that women have,
• 32:21
  and since women are now the gender neutral, because we can't identify anything
• 32:25
  that men are that women aren't. That's the thing. I mean, even
• 32:29
  positive or negative. We can't identify anything that men are that women aren't.
• 32:32
  Now that men women are now the gender neutral, anything positive women men can
• 32:37
  be too. You see how all of this fun just just come. It's
• 32:40
  just it's just it's just downhill of the refusal to identify anything positive about men.
• 32:46
  There you go, It's it's all. It's all comes from the same
• 32:50
  space. He grimaced. I'll be honest with you, I did not have
• 32:55
  an answer for that. And then why are you in this article like,
• 33:00
  well, she I don't know. That's maybe she has the answer. Maybe
• 33:06
  she knows. And even better than this doctoral student with all of these pieces
• 33:09
  of paper on the wall that validates existent and yes, okay, and his
• 33:15
  faciful hair, Well she might have facial hair too. I wouldn't assume,
• 33:19
  Oh yeah she might. She might beards. Now I hear the girl ladies
• 33:23
  could do stuff. Now, yes, go on like they could never.
• 33:29
  Okay. As early as eighteen thirty five, Washington Irving lamented the new American
• 33:35
  upper classes tendency to send our youth abroad, delope, grow luxurious, and
• 33:38
  effeminate in Europe. His alternative, a previous tour on the prairies, would
• 33:44
  be more likely to produce that manus manliness most in unison with our political institutions.
• 33:49
  Yes, you have discovered that throughout all of human history, everybody has
• 33:53
  had a concern over how to define manliness and to define it in such a
• 33:58
  way that it supports their own bank account, in particular hobby horse issues like
• 34:04
  this is this is you just discovered this, Christine, this is this is
• 34:07
  a thing. All right, Yeah, I'll go back to highlighting this.
• 34:13
  Did you have anything you wanted to add to that? Uh? No,
• 34:15
  I mean other than you know, I just want men to be left alone
• 34:20
  to like figure out their own way, you know, or at least at
• 34:23
  least somebody a little more sympathetic could Yeah. Yeah, none of this has
• 34:29
  anything to do with liberating no um men's identity at all. This is all
• 34:34
  about like, well, well you know, that's why there are women that
• 34:37
  are complaining, because they're trying to. You know, that video that went
• 34:40
  um viral a few weeks ago, there was a woman that said she wanted
• 34:46
  a man that shared her um liberal values, but but behaved in a conservative
• 34:53
  fashion towards her. And of course there are there are no men like that,
• 34:58
  or at least like It's not easy because but see what she was saying
• 35:00
  is I want a man that's going to treat me like a feminist and let
• 35:04
  me do whatever I want and never you know, expect anything from me,
• 35:07
  and not have any authority over me. But I want him to be responsible
• 35:10
  for me. I want him to you know, open the door for me
• 35:14
  and pull the seat for me, and like, you know, pick me
• 35:16
  up, and pay for drinks and pay for dinner and essentially be a gentleman.
• 35:22
  But you know, like, but and this is the thing, like,
• 35:24
  and the most important part of what I'm saying, though, is that
• 35:28
  ultimately these women, they they don't want men to be their own people.
• 35:35
  They want they want to tell them what they need to be. And of
• 35:37
  course they create incredibly impossible standards and very few men can reach it. And
• 35:45
  then they complain when they can't find anyone. Well, they use their victimhood
• 35:47
  like this is this is this is the classic thing throughout all of human history.
• 35:52
  Women use their victimhood and their weakness to define what men owe them.
• 35:58
  Yeah. Yeah, so I mean I would just laugh in their face if
• 36:01
  they're like, I'm sorry, you know. What I mean is like a
• 36:05
  sympathetic maybe there is, Yeah, I know what you're saying, Like,
• 36:12
  um, well, Jordan Peterson seems pretty sympathetic. I mean even in his
• 36:15
  moments, you know it weeps every time the subject of men struggling comes up.
• 36:21
  I mean it's clear, you know, and um, I think,
• 36:25
  well, I'm not gonna get a tap because yeah, it's it's it's a
• 36:31
  if they get fucking triggered over that, I'm not even gonna bring it up.
• 36:35
  All I'm gonna say is that that if men are following him, then
• 36:37
  there's and you don't think they should be that maybe you should be creating content
• 36:40
  that they want to watch. Yeah, So otherwise that's where they're gonna go.
• 36:45
  So well, hey, here here's a question, like, how can
• 36:49
  we tap into this since I think we probably have a more sympathetic look at
• 36:55
  the situation for men and a more honest look. I'm not and I think
• 37:00
  that you know, I don't know. I don't think a lot of men
• 37:02
  can be an Andrew Tap, but a lot of men can just be sort
• 37:07
  of a normal person, well imasonable boundaries between. Yes, they should have
• 37:12
  reasonable boundaries. And then, frankly, I think that um, feminism itself
• 37:16
  is kind of like one gigantic shit test. And I think that if men
• 37:21
  ignore whatever they're yelling about and just deal with like the the actual like uh,
• 37:28
  legal and political obstacles in their own way, and just liberate themselves because
• 37:31
  you can just not associate with these people, um, actually, you'll find
• 37:36
  that women will probably be drawn to you for that. So I think that
• 37:40
  I think that is what is, you know, one of the secrets,
• 37:44
  because trying to give them what they want is impossible and they'll lose respect for
• 37:49
  you anyway. So just do you. Just do you period, full stop,
• 37:52
  is what I think. So, Okay, skip ahead a few decades,
• 37:57
  and new worries about faltering masculinity terms into an obsession with fitness. In
• 38:01
  October nineteen twenty issue of Physical Culture magazine advertised to men instructions on how to
• 38:07
  square your shoulders, and to women some advice, Shall I Marry him?
• 38:09
  A lesson in eugenics. Oh my goodness, Oh man, that's kind of
• 38:15
  I feel like that's cherry picked. But like again, fitness should it's I
• 38:21
  think that everyone should do that for its own sake. And if it just
• 38:24
  like you know, if it just so happens that men are more drawn to
• 38:28
  it, I don't think that's true. I think there's plenty of women that
• 38:30
  like to look good and feel good. They should just do it. But
• 38:34
  of course she's gonna make fitness itself like a bad thing, and they have
• 38:37
  done that. It's like, you know, working out, it's right wing.
• 38:39
  Now it's like, how about just not getting diabetes and dying early,
• 38:45
  dying young. I think it's more sinister than that. I think she's setting
• 38:47
  up this idea that manhood has always been in question and in flux. So
• 38:52
  what the hell? Why are what's your pattern? It's always been like this
• 38:55
  really shallow thing where it's just about looking. Growing a mustache is a rugged
• 39:01
  clear okay? Yeah yeah. Still By nineteen eighty five eighty five, fifty
• 39:07
  eight, sorry, Arthur Schlessinger Junior warned that the male role has plainly lost
• 39:14
  its rugged clarity of outline. Writing an Esquire magazine, he added the ways
• 39:19
  by which American men affirm their masculinity are uncertain and obscure. They're multiplying signs
• 39:24
  indeed, that something has gone badly wrong with the American male's conception of himself.
• 39:30
  Oh, Esquire Magazine, Feminist rag Yeah basically. Oh so, you
• 39:37
  know, just just as an aside, like a really quick aside, I'm
• 39:38
  gonna go at which one of these dudes do you think Christina wants to be
• 39:42
  banged by the of the pictures? Yeah, I would guess that not this
• 39:49
  one, not the small one in the front of the other one. No,
• 39:52
  not that obviously, because he's soulless, you know, he's a ginger.
• 39:57
  Well, there is that. But I think also, like these women
• 39:59
  will complain about men putting up these like, you know, what they consider
• 40:02
  to be like a shallow image of masculinity, but they want that too.
• 40:07
  So it's like, stop fooling yourself. Okay. Worrying about the state of
• 40:12
  our men is an American tradition, but today's problems are real and well documented.
• 40:16
  De Industrialization, automation, free trade, and peacetime have shifted the labor
• 40:21
  market dramatically, and not in men's favor. Okay, just in the side.
• 40:24
  I recently received an article on how the procedural AI is going to be
• 40:35
  challenging eighty percent of women's jobs because it looks like rather than the trade jobs,
• 40:42
  the ones that require mechanical understanding and coupled with physical ability are unlikely to
• 40:49
  be replaced by AI prior to the white collar jobs that mostly women occupy.
• 40:54
  So middle management is probably going to disappear, and that is women's job.
• 41:00
  Are we gonna get Are we gonna get like, are we gonna get articles
• 41:04
  about, Yeah, how women need to woman up, grab those ovaries and
• 41:08
  compete more successfully against the the the sex spots. They're gonna blame the patriar
• 41:16
  AI. R key, that's a good one. That's why they're gonna blame
• 41:22
  that. They're gonna blame and it's of course it's men. They're gonna blame
• 41:24
  men. The need for physical Yeah, go ahead and sorry. The need
• 41:30
  for physical labor has declined, while soft skills and academic credentials are increasingly rewarded.
• 41:35
  Until the the the AI revolution, growing numbers of working age men have
• 41:39
  detached from the labor market, with its biggest drop in employment among men ages
• 41:45
  twenty five to thirty four for those in a job. Wages have stagnated everywhere
• 41:49
  except the top. Yeah, because they just get what can you say about
• 41:53
  the top, They just basically get money directly sluiced directly to them from the
• 41:59
  prince impresses. They just got monopoly money. Friends, Like, oh man,
• 42:06
  how she says, worrying about the state of our men is an American
• 42:08
  tradition, like and on what fucking planets? Yeah? No, no,
• 42:13
  no, not worrying about how well or of skip the depression and sacrifice?
• 42:19
  Yeah, not a big deal. Who cares. Meanwhile, women are surging
• 42:22
  ahead in school in the workplace until AI slams that down, putting a further
• 42:27
  dent in the provider midel model that has long been ingrained in our conception of
• 42:30
  masculinity. Oh, I just thought of something. Maybe AI is going to
• 42:36
  reverse all of this. Huh men now received I don't know. AI is
• 42:40
  being programmed by feminists. So yeah, But the thing is that if it
• 42:45
  well, but if if AI removes all eighty percent of women's jobs, like
• 42:51
  what the hell are they doing if they can be replaced by AI in the
• 42:53
  first place. But whatever, maybe they'll hire them to manage AI. They'll
• 42:59
  probably make up new positions just so that women have jobs. I mean they'll,
• 43:04
  they'll, they be willing to do that in order to prove that women
• 43:07
  are better. Got to keep those state harems. Okay, men now receive
• 43:09
  about seventy four bachelor's degrees for every one hundred awarded to women, and men
• 43:15
  account for more than seventy percent of the decline in college enrollment overall. How
• 43:21
  is that possible in the patriarchy, I don't understand, But in guys,
• 43:25
  we're slipping. We need to take our power back. How do we let
• 43:30
  these women get away with this? Oh? Oh, I know. We're
• 43:32
  gonna put them in hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for college degrees,
• 43:38
  and they're not gonna be able to find a job that actually is worth the
• 43:42
  amount of money that they're putting in themselves in debt for. Okay, good,
• 43:45
  good job, patriarchy. We're still on top. We caught it.
• 43:47
  We caught that one. I just gotta in in defiant or in as contrast
• 43:54
  to that. You look at like Pearl recently, and I know pearls on
• 44:00
  some really interesting sort of crazy tear right now, but she did tweet some
• 44:06
  interesting stuff a while back, which was how which professions are absolutely bodied by
• 44:12
  men, like dominated by men and all of them, Like everything related to
• 44:16
  actually staying alive in society is done by men. So yeah, men are
• 44:22
  still providing, lady, They're providing everything for all of us, and they're
• 44:28
  still doing it, said Pearl. Oh Pearl, right, yeah, she
• 44:34
  she tweeted out, like statistics on the male dominated professions, and like I
• 44:40
  said, they are all the ones that keep us alive, Like they're the
• 44:45
  ones responsible for making sure our houses have heating and water and lighting. They're
• 44:50
  the ones responsible for make sure making sure we have food. They're doing the
• 44:53
  majority of the trucking. Okay, so they're basically you know, if if
• 44:58
  if if our so I was a body, men would be the circulatory system,
• 45:05
  the nervous system, the skeleton, the digestive system, the skin,
• 45:10
  um in many degrees, probably the brain, and women would be the fat.
• 45:16
  Okay, all right, so yeah, men are still providing for everything.
• 45:22
  And maybe part of the part of the immune system active system, the
• 45:27
  immune system. Yeah yeah, yeah, um, not all of the immune
• 45:30
  system, because honestly, everybody says, well, if women were gone,
• 45:35
  the health system would collapse. That's the one thing they've got. And I'm
• 45:37
  like, well, but so also, yeah, it would collapse, but
• 45:42
  men it would also collapse of men were gone too, you forget you know,
• 45:45
  doctors, orderlies, male nurses, you know. Okay, but anyway,
• 45:50
  but my overall point is that men are still providing. There's the provider
• 45:55
  role of men has not changed. What has changes we don't recognize it.
• 46:00
  Where constantly lambasting men as being weak. And I'm like, how like,
• 46:05
  men are still providing for all of society and they're still probably protect it if
• 46:09
  you ask so. So in to twenty twenty, so that this idea that
• 46:16
  men are not are not providing as bullshit. They are period that what's the
• 46:22
  dent is in a man getting a woman individually who recognizes him as a provider.
• 46:28
  That doesn't That doesn't seem to be as common anymore. In twenty twenty,
• 46:31
  nearly half of women reported in a ted Ameritrade survey that they outt out,
• 46:37
  earn, or make the same amount as their h And then there's the
• 46:42
  domestic sphere. Last summer, a Psychology Today article caused a stir online by
• 46:45
  pointing out that the dating opportunities for heterosexual men are diminishing as relationship standards rise.
• 46:52
  No longer dependent on marriage as a means to financial security or even motherhood,
• 46:57
  a growing number of women are choosing to create families themselves the help of
• 47:00
  reproductive technology. Women are increasingly selective, leading to a rise in lonely single
• 47:05
  young men. I just want to point out that when this whole shipfest started
• 47:09
  rolling down the hill, feminists said that this would lead to the rise of
• 47:15
  companion it marriages where women aren't seeking after a provider, And yet they've only
• 47:22
  made it more obvious that that's what they want. Yeah. Yeah, like
• 47:27
  seriously as a group, I mean, not individual. I'm sure they're individual
• 47:30
  women were what No, it's your theory is trying to answer questions. Yes,
• 47:37
  for some reason, I have a male serie like, well, it's
• 47:40
  the FBI, they're just checking in on you or whatever. The mounties.
• 47:45
  Yeah, it was female, my serious female for the longest time, and
• 47:47
  then some one day, I guess she had a sex change and decided to
• 47:52
  become a man, and oh my god, you know what, I'm actually
• 47:54
  okay with that. It's twenty twenty three. Yeah anything, yeah, well,
• 48:00
  if they identify women, yes, okay, okay, So Basically,
• 48:07
  they're just proving that women only wanted men for money. Begin with, Well,
• 48:12
  that's what feminists would I mean, I think that's what I'm saying.
• 48:15
  It's a very materialist view, is like that the only thing that matters is,
• 48:19
  like you know, how much money you make, how much power you
• 48:22
  acquire, Like I it's so cynical, Like I'm I this woman can't be
• 48:28
  if she is married. That guy needs to like really rethink shit because that
• 48:31
  is such a I mean, it's such a materialist view. Like if you
• 48:36
  lose everything, what do you have left? I mean, we're all going
• 48:39
  to lose things. That's inevitable for all of us. So like if you
• 48:44
  don't have anything else, and what do you have if you have this materialist
• 48:46
  mindset? Um, yeah, it's messed up. I'm just saying. And
• 48:51
  these are the same people who complain about capitalism, Like you're literally creating the
• 48:54
  conditions that you're complaining about because of your mindset. If you had like a
• 48:59
  more I don't know, dare I say, spiritual connection to other people,
• 49:04
  you probably wouldn't be worrying about things like GDP so as that's not as much
• 49:09
  anyway, But this really speaks to what women want, like, and I
• 49:13
  don't think that she's realizing it. Like, no, as soon as men
• 49:16
  can't provide more for them, they just throw them aside. Yeah, and
• 49:21
  what men are like no or suspect that women want. But men can't say
• 49:25
  this, like men can't literally quote Christine and say women are throwing men aside
• 49:30
  because men don't earn enough. And here's the other thing leading to a rise
• 49:36
  of lonely single young men, but not lonely single young women because they're okay,
• 49:42
  right, except that the level of misery among women is increasing exponentially now.
• 49:49
  Men also count for almost three of every four deaths of despair, either
• 49:52
  from a suicide, alcohol abuse, or an overdose. Um, yeah,
• 49:55
  that's a you know what that's but you know, h teenage girls are apparently
• 50:01
  starting to starting to work on that that gender gap there though a lot of
• 50:07
  them are starting to become as depressed as the men. It's all. They're
• 50:14
  more likely to get medicated too, which probably doesn't help. But and while
• 50:20
  the past fifty years have been revolutionary for women, the feminist movement championed their
• 50:24
  power in an entire academic discipline, emerged to theorize about gender and excavate women's
• 50:30
  history. Oh bullshit, you just think all of our best efforts, things
• 50:35
  are getting worse. I wonder what it could be. It must be the
• 50:37
  men. Well, they mean they're probably they're now patting themselves on the back.
• 50:43
  No, I don't know what for, but they're patting themselves on the
• 50:45
  back. First of all, women would have gotten these gains without feminism.
• 50:51
  Feminism is just a bunch of grifters that use women's power, already existent power
• 50:57
  in society and the fact that men care about women to get ship for themselves
• 51:00
  and to lie about social problems, ensuring that women continue to be victims of
• 51:04
  them. Yeah, the feminist movement used women's power and entire Okay, academic
• 51:10
  discipline emerged to theorize or to misrepresent social ills in order to support it.
• 51:16
  There hasn't been a corresponding conversation about what role men should play in a changing
• 51:21
  world, because the role is always obvious. They need to solve everyone else's
• 51:25
  problems. At the same time, the increasing visibility of the LGBTQ plus movement
• 51:30
  has made the gender dynamics seem less stable, less defined. Yeah, thanks
• 51:37
  you for that. I mean, basically, you're just like you're basically telling
• 51:40
  again, this is another self report, because what you're saying is at least
• 51:45
  to this woman. And I think that queer theorists and feminists are well,
• 51:49
  they're basically the same thing. What they're saying is we created the LGBTQ activists
• 51:53
  queer theory movement specifically to move as many people as possible away from men and
• 51:59
  masculine and now that we've done that, you know, to uh rousing success
• 52:05
  where like what's going on with men? Like why are they over there in
• 52:08
  the in the in the small dated um, you know, like uh stables
• 52:15
  that we put there was abandoned who they are and join us. I mean,
• 52:19
  that's all the LGBTQ thing is for these people. It's about abandoning because
• 52:23
  it's not It doesn't challenge femininity at all. It doesn't say that women shouldn't
• 52:29
  be women. It just says, well, women should be women, and
• 52:31
  trans women should be women, and other people should be women sometimes or whatever
• 52:37
  else it is. But men who just want to be men, well that
• 52:39
  they're losing because they're not playing nice. I mean that's what I'm getting from
• 52:45
  this. I mean, seriously, what right to them they're they're they're losing
• 52:49
  their identity because it's being erased. Well, yeah, they're erasing it.
• 52:54
  Yeah, but this is the funny thing. It's like, yes, you're
• 52:58
  actively doing this thing that you're calling saying this actively being done. Yeah,
• 53:02
  they will make that connection, like they literally will not identify any positive contribution
• 53:07
  that men or masculinity can create to society, but they will not recognize that
• 53:10
  connection between that behavior and erasing manhood. Okay, yeah, well yeah exactly.
• 53:15
  Like there was a post that Richard tagged me in a while ago was
• 53:21
  Natty and and I like Nattie still, but she said something that I was.
• 53:28
  I was surprised that she was like bringing this up without considering where it
• 53:31
  came from. But she said, I'm like scrolling through the history here to
• 53:35
  find it. Damn it, Richard, you post so often I have to
• 53:42
  like go away because men are identifying as women now, right, And that
• 53:45
  was her complaint, And I said, well, if if we allowed men
• 53:47
  to have an identity, they wouldn't be looking for another place to belong to
• 53:52
  begin with. So like, you can't like this whole thing with like the
• 53:55
  trans women are taking away women's faces. Well what the drove them to do
• 54:00
  that. Yeah, they all have the conditions. I mean, yeah,
• 54:04
  if it's not well, I mean, I think a lot of it is
• 54:06
  probably a survival instinct, like a desire to to to feel like they belong.
• 54:12
  So they were like, well, being a man obviously sucks because nobody
• 54:15
  everybody hates if you're a feminine man. There's an inclination to want to do
• 54:21
  that, like to have you're yes, so so you're going to join the
• 54:25
  ranks. You're gonna be like, well, I'm gonna become a transwoman now,
• 54:29
  and then you do and the and I mean I would think Natty would
• 54:31
  know better to be like, well, this is created because the masculine identity
• 54:37
  has been attacked, at least in part, Like you wouldn't be seeing it
• 54:40
  at the scale that it's at if it weren't for that. But now it's
• 54:44
  a problem because it's affecting women. It's like, but but it affected men
• 54:47
  first, guys, Yeah, like it affected men first, like most of
• 54:51
  the you know, like just a few years ago, twenty seventeen, I
• 54:53
  went to a myth con and there I met up with Blair White there and
• 55:00
  Meyer and this other trans woman that was she was on American idol or something,
• 55:05
  and they were very nice ladies and did a little talk, and I
• 55:07
  went up there and I asked a question. I said, I noticed that
• 55:10
  most of the time when we see trans women, or with trans people in
• 55:14
  general, there's more trans women. And I at the time, I think
• 55:17
  Aaron Pitzy had told me in a previous conversation that it was something like seventy
• 55:22
  five people who transition are men, so like the women that transition to be
• 55:27
  men is in a minority. Now. Their answer to that question was something
• 55:31
  like, well, we don't really know that because when when women transition,
• 55:36
  they don't you know, they don't tell anybody, and they tend to pass
• 55:38
  better and all that. And I agree that's true. But I do think
• 55:42
  that it does happen more deep with men transitioning to become women. I think
• 55:46
  that that is probably when we get the data. I will bet you a
• 55:51
  dollar that it is more men, and probably by a lot, although women
• 55:55
  are now doing it more, especially younger girls are doing it more. And
• 56:00
  so again, if this is happening at this scale to where I think we
• 56:05
  went from like you know, less than one percent of people transitioning to damn
• 56:09
  near twenty percent of people that don't identify as you know, as the gender
• 56:15
  they were assigned or or or just like as men at all, then there
• 56:21
  must it must be something else to it. It's not like an organic thing
• 56:24
  that just happened, but not in such a short amount of time. There's
• 56:28
  obviously something suspicious going on that we should be able to question. And I
• 56:32
  think that it started when we were attacking masculinity. And we've been attacking masculinity
• 56:38
  for a hundred plus years, so like, what what do you expect?
• 56:42
  And now now that women are feeling the sting, you know, of it,
• 56:45
  after they were totally cool with it for one hundred plus years, now
• 56:50
  they're complaining, and it's like, oh, you kind of I'm sorry,
• 56:52
  but you make your bed. I mean, I'm sorry that there are women
• 56:54
  who probably would otherwise not have done that that are being affected. But unless
• 56:59
  they realize where this came from, you know, you're you're not addressing anything.
• 57:04
  So I mean, and I think, and I think it's really it's
• 57:07
  really sad because I'm sorry, there's gonna be there's gonna be a lot of
• 57:10
  suicides. I mean, there's gonna be a lot of suicides because of this.
• 57:15
  So you know, I don't know what to tell you except that the
• 57:19
  when this happens, people are going to be rushing to avoid taking responsibility,
• 57:23
  avoid blame, whatever, and they're not going to know how this started.
• 57:27
  It started when we took men's identity away from them. That's how this all
• 57:30
  started. So now women are losing it too. Well, I don't know
• 57:34
  what to tell you. You know, speak up, no to play stupid
• 57:37
  games, win stupid prizes. Yeah, and literally it is the moment we
• 57:42
  started to say, we started to say that there was nothing that men are
• 57:45
  that women aren't. And once you do that, once you take away women's
• 57:51
  limitations, you take away the definition of women, and then eventually you're you're
• 57:54
  at a state where somebody says, well, what is a woman? And
• 57:58
  you're like, ah, a woman is the wolf and weave of the stars,
• 58:04
  the sound upon the beach. A woman is an indefinable platonic being of
• 58:09
  humanity that anyone could be. I mean, you're just basically in some sort
• 58:14
  of weird existential place where you cannot define what a woman is and you can't
• 58:17
  stop men who may not be identifying for as women because they genuinely believe their
• 58:23
  women just simply identifying as a woman because it's easier now than identifying as a
• 58:28
  man. Yeah, that's what you end up with. Yeah, now women
• 58:32
  are not even women, They're they're uterous havers with bonus holes. That's you
• 58:37
  know, a welcome to the club. I got a table for you right
• 58:42
  here. Feels like shit, doesn't it? Yeah? All right? For
• 58:47
  millions of men lack Okay, oh wait, wait, I'm sorry, I
• 58:51
  need to read the highlighted paragraph. I screwed up my own system. Because
• 58:54
  men still dominate leadership positions in government and corporations, many assume that they're doing
• 59:00
  fine and bristole at male complaint. Isn't it wonderful how men get into these
• 59:05
  positions because they can sacrifice other mendos? You know, men are are in
• 59:09
  positions of powering in corporations because they're best able to use the sacrifice of other
• 59:15
  men to do the best effect. Like, that's why they're in these high
• 59:19
  positions. They're best able to direct the sacrifice of other men. And then
• 59:24
  we turn around and we say, well they're in those high positions. That
• 59:27
  means that, you know, men are doing so much better than women.
• 59:30
  Um, why like yes, men are in ceo positions. Why does that
• 59:38
  have any bearing on men and general He was like, well, yeah,
• 59:40
  I mean there are our disparities. Let me look at all the male CEOs
• 59:44
  and politicians. There's never been a female president. Blah blah. I's like,
• 59:46
  who do those people serve? Who do those men serve? It's not
• 59:51
  about who's sitting in the big chair in the big White House. It's it's
• 59:54
  about who they serve, collars, where does it get spent, who is
• 1:00:00
  it spent on? I mean, like this, this is ridiculous, Like,
• 1:00:05
  you know, power, It's it's so unfair they have all this power,
• 1:00:08
  Like that only tells me about the person saying that. It's like,
• 1:00:12
  oh, so if you had power, you would serve simply given power,
• 1:00:16
  you know, they're there, they have a job they're expected to do.
• 1:00:20
  I mean it doesn't always work out that way obviously, but we're supposed to
• 1:00:23
  be able to discern that when we you know, elect people. But you
• 1:00:29
  don't get to say, oh, they have power, therefore though, that
• 1:00:31
  only tells me what you would do. Okay, So apparently Jim had the
• 1:00:36
  ring. Jim Bottle is saying that this is a good stream content wise a
• 1:00:38
  pity. It's being rendered into rags by the stream. So I'm guessing that
• 1:00:43
  this is unlistenable. I don't know, is it? Is it unlistenable?
• 1:00:47
  Guys, I don't know that there's much we can do, yeah, aside
• 1:00:52
  from me not streaming, I don't know why. I mean, yeah,
• 1:00:55
  you you might like I don't know if it lets you, but you can't
• 1:01:00
  do it while we're live. But you can look at the bit rate settings
• 1:01:04
  and seeing and sometimes it's fine at the moment. I'm sorry, guys,
• 1:01:07
  I don't know. I mean, yeah, I'm not I can't yeah,
• 1:01:15
  I mean you'd have to like h end the stream and then the only way
• 1:01:21
  you can alter the settings is to stop it and then go into the settings
• 1:01:24
  and change things. But I don't know if that's like, um, I
• 1:01:29
  don't even know if that's really the problem. Maybe do you have a firewall?
• 1:01:32
  Mum? You could I could ask, I could ask, okay,
• 1:01:37
  if you have a firewall, maybe you have two firewalls. Because that was
• 1:01:39
  my problem for a long time, is that my my router or my my
• 1:01:45
  modem had a firewall and my computer has a firewall. So I turned off
• 1:01:47
  the computer's firewall and and my streams were great after that. So, um,
• 1:01:53
  it could be that it could be a firewall, two firewalls, if
• 1:01:57
  you have multiple firewalls, or a EPN. I don't know. Do you
• 1:02:00
  have a VPN? Um? I might, but I don't know if it's
• 1:02:05
  you have to ask, right, Okay, Um, yeah, anyway we
• 1:02:09
  can uh, I mean, do you want to just because uh? Yeah,
• 1:02:14
  it's like getting close to Yeah, I just I can't. I don't
• 1:02:17
  understand why our streams are always so goddamn bad. I guess they're not when
• 1:02:22
  you're doing them. Just Um, I used to have a lot of problems,
• 1:02:28
  but I think I've resolved them part Yeah, let me see if I
• 1:02:32
  can. Let me see if I can change that. I guess this is
• 1:02:37
  something I'm probably gonna have to have to ask Jonathan about. All right,
• 1:02:40
  let's get this done. Sorry, guys, Sorry that this is sorry.
• 1:02:45
  Hopefully you're not gonna lose that much. So let's see how much more of
• 1:02:50
  this? Oh no, just like four four paragraphs left, and I don't
• 1:02:53
  know what's wrong. Um, Like, maybe it is an issue with firewalls,
• 1:02:59
  like Brian is saying, and I will endeavor to fix it to work
• 1:03:01
  with Jonathan to make sure that this doesn't happen again. I do need to
• 1:03:05
  be able to stream though. That's probably pretty critical. Okay, because man,
• 1:03:09
  are you a win Are you on a Windows computer? Yes? Um,
• 1:03:15
  maybe you can. You can turn it off from there, like pretty
• 1:03:17
  easily. You can just search firewall in your search bar and it'll bring up
• 1:03:22
  Windows Firewall and if that's on, then you can turn it off and you'll
• 1:03:27
  probably be okay for the stream and then turn it back on after it's over.
• 1:03:31
  I'm not great doing a lot with all right, Windows, all right,
• 1:03:35
  you can just forget it then. I mean, I'm just saying if
• 1:03:37
  you just search firewall, it should come right up. But yeah, I
• 1:03:39
  have, I have looked at I got the firewall thing. But it doesn't
• 1:03:44
  give um manage your settings. Okay, it's just it. It doesn't give
• 1:03:51
  me anything. Uh what Okay, Yes, I've asked anti viruses turn turned
• 1:04:00
  on. Okay, Well that's not a firewall, that's no, it is.
• 1:04:03
  It's indicating that this is a firewall. So maybe, oh well you
• 1:04:08
  can turn it off just for a little while. Um, it's gonna give
• 1:04:11
  you a warning, but don't sweat it. I don't think anyone's trying to
• 1:04:15
  like hack the computer in the middle of Kelvington and then turn it back on
• 1:04:18
  see if it works. We'll see if it if it's better, and then
• 1:04:23
  um yeah, turn it back on, see if I can figure out how
• 1:04:28
  to turn it off. Uh are you are you displaying yourself signing in?
• 1:04:35
  Oh? No, no, who you'll be Okay, that's why I ask
• 1:04:40
  you. That's why I said you should just capture the window instead of capturing
• 1:04:42
  the screen. Yeah, no, no, no, that's that's fine.
• 1:04:45
  I'm not signing in, all right. Yeah, the password is um is
• 1:04:50
  completely This must be a lot of fun for you guys. Yeah. Uh.
• 1:04:57
  If I opened it up, it is going to go into that screen.
• 1:04:59
  So all right, don't worry about it. Then let's just let's just
• 1:05:01
  keep coming. Yeah Jesus Christ. No, it's not gonna work. It's
• 1:05:06
  not I can't do anything about this. I'm really sorry, guys. All
• 1:05:11
  right, all right, let's go back to this. Okay, what did
• 1:05:16
  he say incidentally when he said what does this matter that men are like?
• 1:05:21
  Well, I think that he was still trying to sort of like rationalize,
• 1:05:28
  like you know that um that uh it would be like that there should be
• 1:05:35
  more women doing this, like because he's I think that he's just beginning his
• 1:05:42
  journey. I no, no offense to the guy. I hope that he
• 1:05:45
  figures this out. But like it as you I understand that when you start
• 1:05:47
  off, you're gonna be like you're gonna hold a lot. But like as
• 1:05:50
  time goes on, if you're if you're really pursuing truth, you're gonna find
• 1:05:55
  out that a lot of shit that you thought was right or that was very
• 1:05:59
  basic and straightforward, it's just not. And that's why I brought that up.
• 1:06:01
  Like we didn't get into the wage gap because um, I mean,
• 1:06:04
  it just didn't come up. But I figured he would probably say, you
• 1:06:08
  know, when you account for like what you know, women's choices and all
• 1:06:12
  of that, it comes out to very little and or in some cases women
• 1:06:15
  make a little bit more. But that none of that even matters to me
• 1:06:17
  anymore. Like I don't. I'm way past the whole. If you look
• 1:06:20
  at the data real, you know, for real, it looks like this.
• 1:06:23
  I just go, what are men spending their money on? Men spend
• 1:06:27
  their money on women. Men spend their money on their families like they like.
• 1:06:30
  So at the end of the day. Who's making the money doesn't matter.
• 1:06:33
  Where the money is spent is what matters. Yeah, And is there
• 1:06:36
  any evidence that these CEOs somehow like want to benefit men over women? There's
• 1:06:42
  none. Oh there's I'm selling you like, if you want to make money,
• 1:06:45
  the best way to do it is actually if you have a product,
• 1:06:49
  like you want to sell it to women. So no, that's what I'm
• 1:06:53
  saying, like like you and another thing too, And I did bring this
• 1:06:57
  up. I said, well, you know, people always talking about the
• 1:06:59
  CEO, but that's the APEX files. You were talking about what the top
• 1:07:01
  one percent of the top one percent of men, But about all the guys
• 1:07:04
  at the bottom, What about all the homeless guys? What about the working
• 1:07:06
  class guys? What about the laborers? Those are all men? Is that
• 1:07:10
  a problem too? Like should women be doing those jobs? I mean I
• 1:07:13
  would say no. I would say whoever wants to do it should do it.
• 1:07:15
  But we can't complain if if it doesn't shake out like equal And that's
• 1:07:20
  not even something you could if you should even need to bring up like it's
• 1:07:25
  so retarded because you would have to basically come from the position of something here
• 1:07:29
  has to change. No, not if everybody's doing what they want. And
• 1:07:33
  what is it that they're trying to say by saying that all these men are
• 1:07:38
  in charge. What are they trying to say that these men are benefiting other
• 1:07:42
  men? Right, that somehow men are benefited by the fact that men are
• 1:07:45
  in charge. What if they aren't. What if actually men as a group
• 1:07:49
  suffer a detriment because men are in charge. What if they don't get anything
• 1:07:55
  from it? And furthermore, maybe even the men in charge don't deserve to
• 1:07:59
  be associated with feminist stereotypes about men in power. And I'm gonna go in
• 1:08:04
  a little bit of a digression here to eleven nine eleven, Okay, in
• 1:08:13
  the South Tower, the South tower was the tower that was hit in the
• 1:08:16
  second Like the North Tower was hit first, the South tower was hit second.
• 1:08:21
  And like the seventeen minutes between the time the North Tower was hit and
• 1:08:26
  the South Tower was hit, there was a lot of chaos going on in
• 1:08:30
  the South tower, specifically in the floors above where the South tower eventually got
• 1:08:34
  hit. Now, there was about I think twenty five hundred people in those
• 1:08:39
  floors. And if you don't know, once that seventeen minutes elap finished,
• 1:08:45
  and that second plane hit the South tower. Nobody was getting out of those
• 1:08:49
  floors from like I think about seventy eight up. Okay, it was done.
• 1:08:55
  You're all gonna die if you weren't out. Not seventeen minutes about I
• 1:09:00
  think two thousand or eighteen hundred of the people in those towers were evacuated down.
• 1:09:06
  And this was despite the port authority telling them to shelter in place and
• 1:09:11
  other um, other people telling them to stay. And the reason why that
• 1:09:17
  happened was because there were executives in the companies on those floors who went around
• 1:09:27
  and told their staff to get out and took their staff down the um the
• 1:09:34
  stairs into the lobby that like there was a there was a secondary lobby on
• 1:09:39
  like floor seventy two that took the express elevators down. It was a very
• 1:09:42
  complicated system. They've since revised all of that. But there were CEOs like
• 1:09:47
  executive C suite staff who were getting everyone evacuated from the two big companies on
• 1:09:55
  those towers. Okay, and a lot of those guys, those men didn't
• 1:10:00
  make it. I want you, I want you to understand this. These
• 1:10:05
  were executives. One guy, um, I'd have to house and that can't
• 1:10:12
  that can't be true. They're those guys are all like big fat guys in
• 1:10:15
  three piece suits that are smoking cigars, that they decisions despite what the port
• 1:10:20
  authority was saying over the intermission or the intercom, they were telling in many
• 1:10:26
  cases the women. There were a lot of women. In fact, that
• 1:10:29
  the death toll in the whole event was like three to one in favor of
• 1:10:32
  men. And this is one of the reasons why, because they were executives
• 1:10:38
  telling their workers to get out, go take the stairs down, and they
• 1:10:42
  didn't stop. They didn't leave, They stayed to keep evacuating people. And
• 1:10:47
  these men, which are these men at the top one percent, ended up
• 1:10:54
  dying in the process of saving people. Okay, maybe this top one percent
• 1:11:00
  of men doesn't deserve to be branded with the feminist stereotypes either of patriarchy,
• 1:11:09
  especially since I mean that you know that doesn't happen a lot. But the
• 1:11:13
  one time it did happen, they certainly didn't behave like feminist theory would predict
• 1:11:17
  they would behave like feminist conjecture would predict they behave, which would be what
• 1:11:21
  to throw women into the fireball, And there was no reason for them to
• 1:11:26
  do it. It wasn't part of their job description. There's just like accountants.
• 1:11:30
  These are financial officers, c suite executive people. Men had and nothing,
• 1:11:36
  and they weren't firefighters, they weren't policemen. They were dudes who had
• 1:11:41
  BMW's and condo and penthouse condos and like model wives, and they spent their
• 1:11:45
  last moments saving people. And this is this. These events don't happen often,
• 1:11:53
  so we don't get an insight a flash into the mentality this men in
• 1:11:58
  these kind of extreme circificumstances often. But what a surprise. They're just like
• 1:12:02
  any other man. Yea. They have an instinct to help people, to
• 1:12:06
  save them, no matter how much money you think that they have, and
• 1:12:11
  how resentful we are towards them. When the chips are down, many of
• 1:12:15
  them still saved people. They were still men. What a surprise. So
• 1:12:20
  maybe they don't deserve this stereotype that they're all out for themselves and that they
• 1:12:26
  hate when they especially when they're freaking they're dooming themselves to death by asphyxiation and
• 1:12:32
  being burnt to death or throwing themselves out of a freaking window to save the
• 1:12:39
  freaking Secretaries and typists think about that is, it doesn't really even matter the
• 1:12:47
  label you slap on a man, Oh you're a CEO if he is going
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  to throw himself into a fire to save a secretary. No, it doesn't.
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  Uh huh, all right, let's keep going. Yeah, sorry,
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  I just had to go I just because it's the thing is that we have
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  this condemnation. We'd like, oh, well, look at all them they
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  do. They threw their lives away to try to protect women who had were
• 1:13:21
  lower down on the totem pole. That's what they did. And sure some
• 1:13:26
  of them probably tried to escape themselves, and nobody really should condemn them because
• 1:13:30
  you know, they probably had kids and wives, But enough of them stayed
• 1:13:34
  and tried to save people. That that's and that's the only indication, that's
• 1:13:40
  our only snapshot into what these men would do in that circumstance. They don't
• 1:13:44
  deserve these feminist labels of some kind of like sociopathic, patriarchal oppressor. Even
• 1:13:50
  the men, men and the one percent don't deserve that. Okay, they're
• 1:13:57
  still men. They're still fucking men. They are, all right. Okay,
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  So that a twenty twenty analysis of the SNP five hundred found out there
• 1:14:06
  were more CEOs named Michael or James than there were female CEOs period. Women
• 1:14:12
  are still dealing with historical discriminations and centuries of male domination. Blah blah blah.
• 1:14:16
  Biology, biology, biology, This is biology, Okay. The same
• 1:14:24
  reason why Michael or James was willing to throw himself in flames to save a
• 1:14:30
  woman is the same reason why he was in the c suite inspirst place.
• 1:14:32
  He's more willing to take risks not just for gain, but also to protect
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  others. That is a masculine trait. Get over it. You want to
• 1:14:42
  recognize, you want to say that you want to keep women having their own
• 1:14:45
  special biological value, then you have to recognize men's. Are we really worrying
• 1:14:51
  that men feel a little emasculated because their female classmates are doing well while considering
• 1:14:59
  that you're contreating with contempt? I doubt it, But millions of men lack
• 1:15:02
  access to that kind of power of success and they never have had it ever.
• 1:15:09
  If anything, it was worse to be a man that didn't have that
• 1:15:12
  kind of power and success one hundred years ago, eighty years ago, what
• 1:15:15
  was happening to them? They were dying in the streets of starvation, or
• 1:15:18
  in the trenches and downstream cut loose from a stable identity. Men never had
• 1:15:25
  that, you dipshit, Like, what is this? The only masculine identity
• 1:15:30
  is the apex? This is the delusion that Christine is under the only masculine
• 1:15:38
  No, Okay, the guys who saved those secretaries and typis and US middle
• 1:15:45
  management women in the when the Twin Towers fell, those C suite executives um
• 1:15:54
  their identity. Well, yeah, sure they were part of the apex,
• 1:15:58
  but really what made them save those women? It was because it was part
• 1:16:02
  of that masculine tool kit, those masculine instincts that are of a benefit to
• 1:16:09
  society, whether or not you're in the C suite or you're in the sewer,
• 1:16:14
  or you're up on a soul tower, or you're in a fricking submarine
• 1:16:18
  or you're on the front line. Okay, so you are coming from Christine,
• 1:16:24
  You are coming from the position that the only men with the masculine they
• 1:16:30
  are likely the men who fulfill all of the tinder check marks. Absolutely,
• 1:16:34
  but also those women that these men were saving, they weren't exactly on minimum
• 1:16:39
  waves either. No. I know that like women at work in those businesses
• 1:16:42
  they do pretty well, even if even if they are administrative assistants or whatever
• 1:16:46
  they're calling it these days. Sorry, I have the hiccups. Yeah,
• 1:16:53
  okay, So millions of men and they've always lacked access to that kind of
• 1:16:56
  power and success. But here's the difference. We recognized that that kind of
• 1:17:01
  power and success was a natural outgrowth of men's biological adaptation to be more risk
• 1:17:06
  taching. Okay, So that we recognized there was something that the CEO shared
• 1:17:14
  with the linemen. Right now we don't. That's the difference. And downstream
• 1:17:21
  cut loose. And we did that because we recognized the big biological component,
• 1:17:28
  the fact that men are more risk taking. So men did share in the
• 1:17:31
  power in some way in terms of the identity. They could look at a
• 1:17:34
  CEO making the risks, doing the innovations, doing this other stuff and say
• 1:17:40
  that is a manifestation of masculinity, which I also share. That's what changed.
• 1:17:46
  You think that men in a breadline had access to that kind of power
• 1:17:49
  and success a hundred years ago or in a trench. No, and downstream
• 1:17:56
  cut loose from a stable identity as patriarchs deserving of respect. They feel demoralized
• 1:18:00
  and adrift. The day to show it, but so does the general mood.
• 1:18:03
  Men find themselves lonely, depressed, anxious, and directionless, except for
• 1:18:08
  those men who are keeping your goddamn lights on, lady. Yeah, and
• 1:18:14
  women aren't doing so great either, no, So yeah, I think I
• 1:18:20
  think almost like you've separated those people with your rhetoric and propaganda, and women
• 1:18:26
  are afraid of men, and men don't think they're worthy of women. M
• 1:18:31
  it's kind of terror. Okay, all right, so that's really what's happened.
• 1:18:40
  Men never had access to the top, but what they could see was
• 1:18:45
  that that kind of success was a manifestation, like the perfection of their own
• 1:18:49
  masculine impulses and instincts. But now they can't see that anymore because you know,
• 1:18:54
  it's actually it's actually an unfair exclusion of women from those from that activity.
• 1:19:01
  It's kind of terrifying. The thought that I was He thought that I
• 1:19:04
  was the best person to come ask this. Reynolds went on to tell me
• 1:19:08
  about his underclassmen visitor. I'm not even a parent. It seems like there
• 1:19:11
  had been a breakdown, right, But there's this very real way in which,
• 1:19:14
  at this moment, a lot of guys don't know, they have no
• 1:19:15
  sense of what it means to be to be them, particularly, they have
• 1:19:19
  no idea what it means to be a man. While yes, because the
• 1:19:23
  only thing that you can identify about men is toxicity and criminality. Past models
• 1:19:30
  of mass is what they perpetuate. By the way, Yeah, I mean
• 1:19:33
  yes, congratulations Christina, congratulation Christine, congratulations. Feminism is one past models
• 1:19:40
  of masculine What do they look like? Where do they fit? These are
• 1:19:44
  the social questions, but also ones with major political ramifications. Whatever self definition
• 1:19:48
  men would settle on will have an enormous impact on society, won't it.
• 1:19:55
  Yet, many people like Taylor hesitate to be the one to try to outline
• 1:19:59
  a new standard of man holiness. Who are they of a limitation to women?
• 1:20:03
  It's as simple as that they cannot conceive of saying. While men are
• 1:20:09
  more likely to do this, Men are more likely to be risk tactors.
• 1:20:12
  Men are more likely to create meritocracies. Men are more likely to see themselves
• 1:20:15
  in terms of the consequences of their actions rather than how they are affected by
• 1:20:19
  outside circumstances. Okay, this is These are masculine qualities and imperatives, and
• 1:20:27
  they are very positive very important for society. These people can't say any of
• 1:20:30
  that. They cannot acknowledge it, they cannot recognize it. In fact,
• 1:20:36
  the only consistent media and people are people are gonna just goggle. And when
• 1:20:42
  I say that, the only consistent media that I've ever seen that recognizes anything
• 1:20:46
  good about masculinity is romance, people are probably just their eyeballs are bulging out.
• 1:20:54
  I mean, there's a lot of bad romance, but at the very
• 1:20:57
  least it allows that men have something unique about them. Man, I'm here,
• 1:21:01
  I'm here. Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you.
• 1:21:04
  I'm here. Yeah. Man, Again, there are some really terrible
• 1:21:08
  romance, Like Sturge's law is like exponentially higher with romance. But it's the
• 1:21:14
  only genre, it's the only media allow around today with any kind of popularity
• 1:21:19
  that consistently recognizes some kind of unique value that men have, even if it's
• 1:21:26
  shallow. This only is not at all a map out of the wilderness.
• 1:21:32
  This is just blaming men. Yeah, oh wait, there's more shit.
• 1:21:36
  Yeah, Oh my good lord, look at this. Oh okay, we
• 1:21:41
  will finish up to here. Does this keep going? Yeah, it keeps
• 1:21:45
  going. It's it's a deceptive. I thought it was a different article.
• 1:21:49
  Okay, oh no, no, yeah, well, well we'll stop it
• 1:21:54
  at like at the well, stop it here this thing. Yes, we'll
• 1:21:58
  stop it at this dude. Um, and then we'll have to continue later
• 1:22:01
  because this is actually and maybe we'll have fixed all of the problems. I
• 1:22:05
  don't know. Okay, this is what this is going to conclude with.
• 1:22:11
  But go ahead. Okay, No, not the problems of this article,
• 1:22:15
  I mean the problems of the stream. Oh yeah, well hopefully Okay,
• 1:22:21
  all right, is it sturges a lot like that? Ten percent of everything
• 1:22:25
  is crap, But only one group seems to have no doubts about offering men
• 1:22:30
  a plan. You mean offering men some kind of positive identity, a manly
• 1:22:35
  appeal from the right. In twenty eighteen, curious about a YouTube personality you'd
• 1:22:42
  seemingly become famous overnight, I got tickets to a sold out lecture in DC
• 1:22:45
  by Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson was a famous uh psychologist here in Canada for
• 1:22:53
  a while before he supposedly got noticed by the Americans. Um. It was
• 1:22:59
  one of dozens of stops on the Canadian psychology professor turned anti woke Juggernaut's book
• 1:23:03
  tour for a surprise bestseller twelve year Earls for Life. An anecdote Chaos,
• 1:23:08
  the crowd was at least eighty five percent male. The remainder seemed to be
• 1:23:12
  made up of long suffering girlfriends. Oh, oh, my god, my
• 1:23:16
  moms who had brought their sons in hope that they'd shape up. Surrounded by
• 1:23:21
  men on a Tuesday night, I wondered aloud what the fuss was about.
• 1:23:25
  In my opinion, Peterson served up fairly benel advice stand up straight, delay
• 1:23:30
  gratification. His evolutionary biology informed takes range from amusingly weird to mildly insulting.
• 1:23:35
  Female lobsters are irreresistibly attracted to the top lobster, as are human women.
• 1:23:41
  I don't think he's ever said that. I read the book. No,
• 1:23:44
  I read the book too. I don't think he's ever said that. But
• 1:23:45
  of course, I mean, that's kind of true, Chris. It's true
• 1:23:54
  of human women. Like women don't look for the top guys. Look,
• 1:23:58
  I mean, hear itself, right. You're lying to yourself, Christine.
• 1:24:02
  You don't. You don't even think the top man, anybody outside any man,
• 1:24:06
  outside the tops of men, lack access to that kind of power and
• 1:24:10
  success, and you think that's where masculinity came from. Well, that certainly
• 1:24:15
  shows what you're looking at the top lobster. Yes, right, you're proving
• 1:24:19
  his point. His pre piece suit seemed gimmicky. Suddenly the twenty something guy
• 1:24:26
  in front of me swung around Jordan Peterson. He told me, without any
• 1:24:30
  hint of irony in his voice, taught me how to live well, no
• 1:24:33
  one else is doing it. Why does that bother you so much? No,
• 1:24:38
  you don't care, like I mean, like, yeah, you're not
• 1:24:40
  helping them. And you know what this is? This is this goes back
• 1:24:43
  to what I've been saying, like, look at Warren Farrell, Doctor Warren
• 1:24:46
  Farrell. Okay, there's like the gentlest man I've ever met, like,
• 1:24:51
  hands down, any more so than any other man I've ever met in my
• 1:24:56
  life. Warren Farrell is the gentlest. Condemned the crap out of him.
• 1:25:00
  They have accused him of everything under the sun. It's almost like it doesn't
• 1:25:04
  matter how careful you are with your words, how kind you try to be,
• 1:25:11
  whatever the PERSONA is doesn't matter. These people will attack you. Period.
• 1:25:16
  It doesn't even matter if you're a woman. They will attack you period.
• 1:25:19
  Look at how they treat Pearl, look at how they treated Warren Farrell,
• 1:25:23
  look at how they treat um NCFM, Justin Trottier. It doesn't matter,
• 1:25:28
  right, so we may as well just you know, be as loud
• 1:25:33
  and offensive as possible because nothing changes. Nothing changes. Peterson is extremely careful
• 1:25:42
  when he speaks. Sometimes it's annoyingly careful, you know, like I want
• 1:25:45
  him to just cut loose a little bit, and he's but he's really careful
• 1:25:49
  in his speech. Sometimes he stumbles and you know, people call him out
• 1:25:54
  and sometimes that's rightly so. But in general I think that he thinks about
• 1:25:58
  what he's gonna say. Loose a little bit and say what's because at the
• 1:26:00
  end of the day, these people don't care, like they put you in
• 1:26:04
  a box. Peterson is evil. We're going to attack him. He's and
• 1:26:09
  like, if you ask them who's worse, like Peterson or Andrew Taine,
• 1:26:12
  they would say that they're the same. They're just as bad as each other
• 1:26:15
  because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
• 1:26:17
  to them, Nope. Like and then ultimately you have to get to that
• 1:26:21
  point in realizing it, Yes, I would say that he does seem to
• 1:26:28
  cut loose a bit on Twitter. He's got the while eye on Twitter.
• 1:26:30
  I think, yeah, a little bit. I think he does. Like
• 1:26:32
  he he you know, what does he call it? He um munches on
• 1:26:38
  shws. I think he said that once a long time ago. I thought
• 1:26:42
  it was pretty funny. That's true. But again, you know, um,
• 1:26:47
  you know, Peterson gonna do things however he wants to do it.
• 1:26:49
  I'm not I'm not telling him how to do anything. I'm just letting you
• 1:26:53
  guys know in case you're not aware, that these people will be ruthless to
• 1:26:58
  him, just like they would anybody else. It's all about whether or not
• 1:27:00
  you step out of line, and it doesn't matter, like if you like
• 1:27:03
  dip your toe in the water or if you just like cannonball into it.
• 1:27:08
  It doesn't matter. I'm gonna treat you the same. So well. And
• 1:27:12
  the other thing is that, you know, like I think he deals with
• 1:27:16
  a different There is this quality any Ironically, I think it's because men have
• 1:27:21
  internalized sort of a feminine way of looking at the world in terms of not
• 1:27:29
  in terms of what they can do, but what has been done to them
• 1:27:32
  as an individual. Some I would say some have, and I think that
• 1:27:36
  he focuses on sort of correcting that because you know, men don't get anywhere
• 1:27:42
  by doing that, unfortunately, as we know, and and I think that
• 1:27:47
  there's a there's a certain subset of men who've gone absolutely the opposite direction,
• 1:27:51
  which is to say that they have internalized everything, like they refuse to see
• 1:27:58
  where it is that something has has externally acted upon them. That doesn't mean
• 1:28:03
  that you can't don't have taking responsibility for the external existence of that external effect
• 1:28:09
  in the first place. You get what I'm saying. There's there's guys who
• 1:28:13
  um play the victim, and then there's guys who are incapable of recognizing when
• 1:28:19
  something happened that's not their fault, like utterly and and you can't something and
• 1:28:27
  that could be very unhelpful in terms of moving forward, because sometimes you need
• 1:28:32
  to recognize that something was out of your control, even if the results are
• 1:28:36
  something you have to manage and take responsibility for the reason why you're dealing with
• 1:28:42
  them isn't your fault. And that's that's a distinction that I think is really
• 1:28:46
  being lost in a lot of the discourse, which is very, very black
• 1:28:51
  and white you're either a victim or you're responsible. You can't both be somebody
• 1:28:57
  who's experienced something outside of your control but also the only person who can actually
• 1:29:02
  make it better, you know what I mean. And that seems to be
• 1:29:06
  a lot of human existence and human experience. You know, shit happens,
• 1:29:12
  it's not your fault that it happened, but you are the only one that
• 1:29:15
  can make it better for yourself and others. So that kind of mentality I
• 1:29:23
  don't necessarily see it in what Peterson says. I think he's targeting more the
• 1:29:28
  guys who've been super feminized into seeing everything in terms of how it affects them,
• 1:29:33
  although often the men that are like on the verge of mine crafting themselves.
• 1:29:40
  Anyways, I think because Peterson often talks about how many men reach out
• 1:29:44
  to him and say, you know, I never had anyone tell me anything
• 1:29:46
  encouraging in my life. Yeah, and so you know, I'm like,
• 1:29:50
  it just seems like he focuses more on instead of focusing on the guys who
• 1:29:56
  are like in that space where they need to be told, Hey, this
• 1:30:00
  is something that was well outside your responsibility that you cannot be blaming yourself for
• 1:30:05
  this because this was well outside of your ability to control the consequences of it.
• 1:30:12
  You have to take responsibility for and it'll be easy for easier for you
• 1:30:15
  to do that once you stop blaming yourself for the existence of it in the
• 1:30:17
  first place. That makes sense. I don't see him really targeting that.
• 1:30:23
  I think, Yeah, I think that's right. Also, I think men,
• 1:30:27
  I think everybody needs encouragement. Men aren't getting it. Women aren't getting
• 1:30:30
  it either. What I mean is men aren't getting encouragement. They're just get
• 1:30:31
  being demonized as men for existing. Women don't get encouragement either. They get
• 1:30:38
  empowerment. They get yes lighting, that's what I call it. Yes lighting
• 1:30:43
  is what they get because they're just told that they're perfect way they are and
• 1:30:45
  now the rest of the world just needs to realize it, which is bad
• 1:30:47
  for women because they don't realize. They don't learn what it is that they
• 1:30:51
  need to work on. They don't know what it is that they need to
• 1:30:54
  improve, so they don't improve anything because they're told that everything is fine.
• 1:31:00
  Yeah, that's actually pretty hilarious. In certain things that you really can't fake,
• 1:31:03
  like writing, you either write well or you don't. And I and
• 1:31:08
  I when I say right, well, I encompass everything from really really simple
• 1:31:14
  clear pulp type writing to MS standard, and that is the ability to convey
• 1:31:18
  ideas to your audience. And this whole yas queen thing really damages women when
• 1:31:26
  it comes to doing stuff like that. Any kind of artistic merit is.
• 1:31:30
  Um, it's just if you cannot handle external criticism, you're never going to
• 1:31:38
  get anywhere with it. Yeah, I call it. Yes, yeah,
• 1:31:44
  yeah, well it denied. Like what I see is that a complete portion
• 1:31:49
  of human development is basically passing women by. So you know how there's the
• 1:31:56
  maiden mother crone. Yeah, women are basically just the maiden, eternally victimized
• 1:32:02
  by their circumstances and never rising above it to become anything else. They're just
• 1:32:08
  one archetype. That's it, Okay, and supposedly the yass queening is like,
• 1:32:14
  but then the thing is that they never rise above recognizing that they're not
• 1:32:17
  a victim, so it's never you know, they just immediately descend back into
• 1:32:21
  the state of helplessness even after every yass queen. Yeah, because if you
• 1:32:28
  tell women they're perfect as they are and that they deserve happiness and respect and
• 1:32:33
  then they don't get it, then what you're telling them is that there is
• 1:32:36
  something wrong with them that they can't fix. So because it's like that's why
• 1:32:42
  they become the victims, because they think it's all coming from outside of me
• 1:32:46
  and there's nothing that I can do because I'm perfect because I was yas lighted
• 1:32:50
  and believing it. Yeah yeah, But also that you become addicted to it,
• 1:32:56
  like the external validation, because the thing is to serve anything like you
• 1:33:00
  you don't, you don't, you don't all right, you don't have,
• 1:33:03
  you don't earn anything. You don't have a sense of a competition. Okay,
• 1:33:05
  personal anecdote time, like I've been sort of turning away from HBr a
• 1:33:12
  bit to write a book, and writing is possibly one of the most painful
• 1:33:17
  and excruciating processes imaginable. And if you actually can only do things when you're
• 1:33:26
  constantly being fluffed by yas lighting, you're not going to be able to write
• 1:33:30
  because it's there are times when you get like criticism and it's like you don't
• 1:33:40
  feel like, you don't feel like you can continue, and you have to
• 1:33:45
  reach deep into that well of absolute pig headed perversity in order to keep going.
• 1:33:54
  And if you're constantly gorging on gas yas lighting, you'll you don't develop
• 1:33:59
  that well of pigheaded perversity that keeps you going despite everybody saying, yes,
• 1:34:03
  please stop. Your writing is horrible. And you know that's that's a double
• 1:34:09
  edged sword because you can end up publishing absolute crap. But then again,
• 1:34:13
  I mean if you're if you're listening to the criticism and you're incorporating it and
• 1:34:17
  you're trying to develop and get better, you're less likely to be publishing absolute
• 1:34:21
  crap. So there you go. But you need that, you need that
• 1:34:25
  ability to keep going without constant flattering and butt powdering, which when you become
• 1:34:32
  addicted to it like you do with yas sliding. I like that term.
• 1:34:35
  By the way, Brian, you can't learn that. You can't learn to
• 1:34:42
  be able to do things in silence and perversity, like just being like,
• 1:34:45
  you know what, fuck y'all, it's time for me to get put my
• 1:34:48
  nose to the grindstone and ignore other people's opinions. How do you do that?
• 1:34:53
  If everything is about being flattered? Okay, if there's a vacuum in
• 1:35:00
  modeling manhood today, Peterson has been one of the boldest and stepping up to
• 1:35:04
  fill it. He's gained fame, notoriety, and millions of book sales in
• 1:35:08
  the process. And he's only one of many right aligned masculinity grewers of better
• 1:35:12
  and worse quality who've amassed huge audiences over the past decade. Excuse me,
• 1:35:18
  wow, how can we get into this action? Hey? Comments below tell
• 1:35:23
  us how Honey Badger Radio can get in on this action. Um, that's
• 1:35:27
  a little bit facetious. I think we're gonna I don't think we can stop
• 1:35:32
  it here. Well never, I was going to mention that Peterson is not
• 1:35:36
  and never has been, right weight, But I know that that's just used
• 1:35:41
  as another like it's another layer of boogeyman like who where? So? Like
• 1:35:56
  that's all it is, That's all it is. It's just you know,
• 1:36:00
  how many buzzwords did this woman fit into this part of the article? How
• 1:36:02
  many? I mean? Well, well, somebody do like a count on
• 1:36:08
  how many feminist buzzwords crept into this? We'll see, Oh you know where?
• 1:36:16
  Yeah, where bears and bears and lions and Peterson? Oh my m
• 1:36:23
  h, well can we what would we place bears and lions with tigers?
• 1:36:28
  It's it's lions and tigers and bears. Okay, so it's it's um PUAs
• 1:36:33
  and Mano spheres and petersons in cells and red pills and Peterson Oh my yeah.
• 1:36:42
  Okay, so I think we'll we'll call it. We'll probably h just
• 1:36:46
  call it a day, um because my stream is crap. Maybe next time
• 1:36:50
  we'll finish this off and we'll probably give you a summary of the beginning here
• 1:36:55
  for everybody who is tuning into the next one, and maybe we'll just use
• 1:36:58
  Brian since mine, or we'll figure out what's going on with a vast.
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  So early you guys got to watch behind the scenes and me trying to log
• 1:37:05
  into a vast. That was pretty cool. Hopefully the stream will process and
• 1:37:13
  maybe there won't be interruptions so you'll be able to watch it again, or
• 1:37:16
  people watch it after this won't run to the same problems we'll see. I
• 1:37:19
  guess yes, we'll see. Um. I know that with the This is
• 1:37:21
  why I'm switching back to the normal OBS, because with normal OBS, I
• 1:37:26
  can record it as it's going, but stream lab doesn't let you, doesn't
• 1:37:30
  have a record function, So I'm gonna I'm gonna just go back to the
• 1:37:36
  to the old one, and I think it will be fine anyway. UM,
• 1:37:41
  always looking for ways to make the streams better so that I'm not blamed
• 1:37:45
  at least for technical difficulties. But it seems like that might be out of
• 1:37:47
  our hands. I know you're not blaming me. I blame me, okay,
• 1:37:50
  man, you know I take responsibility for the shit that I do.
• 1:37:55
  That's what we're supposed to do. Yep, that's the world we want.
• 1:37:58
  I don't want to be ya slit so and I also want to take responsibility
• 1:38:02
  for the shit that I do. And somebody said, do you mean perversity
• 1:38:05
  or adversity? No, I mean perversity. At some point, you just
• 1:38:09
  got to recognize that you're pig headed. And the thing is that what what
• 1:38:14
  feminists don't seem to realize is that pigheadedness produces pretty much every innovation, but
• 1:38:18
  every human splat after having strapped a rocket to their car and aimed at at
• 1:38:27
  a cliff into the car. So it's like, yeah, it's it's it's
• 1:38:32
  both positive and negative. Um, and women have to develop and women specifically
• 1:38:40
  have to focus on developing it. I think yeah, because I think that
• 1:38:45
  you'd be amazed at how free you will feel when you start taking responsibility for
• 1:38:49
  things. Yeah, and you and you try to earn things. You basically
• 1:38:54
  like you want to do something there, you know you you, as Rocky
• 1:38:58
  would say, you go the distance. Yeah, well you'll see going the
• 1:39:00
  distance is important. So while you'll realize that you don't have to live and
• 1:39:05
  die by other people's opinions of you, which is which I think is a
• 1:39:10
  lesson that women really need to. Also a cake song, Gee's going he
• 1:39:15
  is going the distance. You guys probably know that song. Okay, all
• 1:39:19
  right, so anyway, I guess yeah, let's wrap it up. Okay,
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  show to morow a right, because you guys are hanging out, you and
• 1:39:44
  Lauren and well, so yeah, not doing a show tomorrow, Mike,
• 1:39:49
  Doctor Ryer, McCammon, Lauren are going to be here tomorrow morning, and
• 1:39:53
  I'm gonna hang out with us over the weekend. I don't. I mean,
• 1:39:56
  we've been talking about doing a meet up. I don't know if anybody
• 1:39:59
  is in the Virginia area that wants to come to Roanoke or like a neighboring
• 1:40:01
  state like West Virginia, North Carolina, Washington, DC, whatever, But
• 1:40:08
  we are going to try to do something. So we're not just going to
• 1:40:12
  be like getting drunk and stoned and all of that, although that's going to
• 1:40:16
  be part of it. But well, I haven't seen them in years.
• 1:40:19
  I haven't seen Lawrence in twenty seventeen. I haven't seen mikes and oh no,
• 1:40:23
  I'm sorry. I saw her in twenty nineteen kteen to Imi and now
• 1:40:26
  was the last time I saw Mike too. So we're going to see them
• 1:40:29
  tomorrow morning. Sometime. Maybe we'll try to do something. We might even
• 1:40:32
  try to make a video at the you know, if nothing else, so
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  okay, we might we might do some content. I don't know, yeah,
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