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DIALED IN: Reid Detmers retires 21 of 22 batters in Angels' win over Astros · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Helay Angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory on
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  Speaker 1: Mike D. Giovanna, former La Times baseball rider and host
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  Speaker 1: of the show, joined by Mark Trumbo, the former Angel
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  Speaker 1: slugger and my regular co host. Well, the Angels won
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  Speaker 1: two out of three from Houston this week, and they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have swept that series had Kirby Yates been able
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  Speaker 1: to convert a save Monday Night. Walbert Urana navigated heavy
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  Speaker 1: traffic through five shutout innings in Tuesdays ten to one
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  Speaker 1: win and reed Debtmers was dominant again in Monday Nights
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  Speaker 1: three to two ten inning win. Debtmers retired twenty one
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  Speaker 1: of twenty two batters, his only blemish a solo homer
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  Speaker 1: to Shay Whitcomb to lead off the six. He now
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  Speaker 1: has a one point seven to three ERA in his
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  Speaker 1: last four starts. He struck out thirty six and walked
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  Speaker 1: five in that span. And here's a couple more good
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  Speaker 1: stats courtesy of Jeff Fletcher with the Rowards County Register. Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: ninety threw seventy of his pitches for strikes, including first
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  Speaker 1: piss pitch strikes to sixteen to twenty two hitters went
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  Speaker 1: to zero to two counts on eight guys, and his
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  Speaker 1: slider was especially effective. He got ten call strikes and
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  Speaker 1: six whiffs, accounting for nearly half of the thirty three
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  Speaker 1: sliders he threw. And here's what Reid said after the
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  Speaker 1: game quote, just kind of trusting my stuff, attacking, staying
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  Speaker 1: on the attack is the main thing. Just trusting everything
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  Speaker 1: and not trying to pinpoint everything, which is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like the pattern I've fallen into in the past, trusting
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  Speaker 1: the stuff and going at them. Usually when you go
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  Speaker 1: right at them, good things happen. Now, Mark, you've talked
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  Speaker 1: about Detmers a lot in the show. He was your
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  Speaker 1: most underrated player in the game or on the team,
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  Speaker 1: and our last show, is this exactly the kind of approach,
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  Speaker 1: approach you've been stressing with Reid? And what's it like
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  Speaker 1: to sort of see it happen right before your eyes
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  Speaker 1: last night?
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  Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun to watch.
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  Speaker 3: I think his comments are reflective of what I have
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  Speaker 3: thought and would be best for him going right at guys,
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  Speaker 3: and his words were in the past, trying to be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit too perfect, trying to pinpoint, trying to
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  Speaker 3: be an accuracy guy. And I think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: guys can fall into that trap where everything suffers because
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  Speaker 3: you have a focus that may be a little misplaced.
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  Speaker 3: It's good to have command, it's a great thing to
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  Speaker 3: have command, but sometimes trying to put command at the
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  Speaker 3: forefront doesn't work for some guys. I think for Reid,
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  Speaker 3: his command gets better when he is more aggressive and
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  Speaker 3: more focused on attacking, and the command kind of takes
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  Speaker 3: care of itself.
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  Speaker 2: Why.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of those things in sports. But last night
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  Speaker 3: was incredible performance. Forty five percent fastball, thirty seven slider,
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  Speaker 3: ten percent curve ball, and he mixed in some change up,
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  Speaker 3: So seventy one percent strikes is incredible. Sixteen of twenty
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  Speaker 3: two hitters were first pitch strikes as well, so the
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  Speaker 3: Astros were on the defensive the entire night. With the
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  Speaker 3: Bats as a club overall, I was not impressed with them.
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  Speaker 3: They appear to be, you know, a team that's probably
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  Speaker 3: going to be fighting for fourth place or so. They
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  Speaker 3: have better relief pitching than the Angels, but they played
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  Speaker 3: sloppy defense, and it seems like a team that's don't
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  Speaker 3: I don't quite know what's going to happen. They're beating
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  Speaker 3: up other clubs. But the two times I've seen him
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  Speaker 3: so far, they haven't left much of an impression.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Reid was pulled after seven things. I'm sorry, and
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  Speaker 1: only eighty nine pitches. Were a little surprised at that
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  Speaker 1: move at that point, were you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 1: He seemed to be in command, and it seemed to
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  Speaker 1: be a really quick conversation in the dugout. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: by the time the cameras panned in there, Reid was
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  Speaker 1: smiling and talking to the guys, and it's like that
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  Speaker 1: was like the decision was made as he was coming
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  Speaker 1: off the mound after the seventh I mean, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: personally would have left him in. I think it's good
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  Speaker 1: to sort of stretch some of these pictures when they
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  Speaker 1: when the situation is right, the situation seem right Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 1: You agree, you disagree.
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  Speaker 3: I think what Kurt said was he wanted to give
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  Speaker 3: soul Seth and I'm assuming Bachmann clean innings for both
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  Speaker 3: the eighth and the ninth, representing possibly a definitive answer
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  Speaker 3: to the late bullpen question, who is going to pitch
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  Speaker 3: the eighth, Who's going to pitch the ninth? I think
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  Speaker 3: this was going to be the answer, and it unfortunately, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, one pitch and a home run entire game
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  Speaker 3: leading to that blowing up and looking not so good.
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  Speaker 3: Had had a clean in Bachman came in and done
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  Speaker 3: his thing, it would have been a very nice, complete
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  Speaker 3: win and a clear indication that he trusts those two
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  Speaker 3: guys to get those final six outs, because I think
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  Speaker 3: the Angels are three outs light in the bullpen most
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  Speaker 3: every game. And how many of the pitchers are able
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  Speaker 3: to go seven innings not too many of them that
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  Speaker 3: they haven't done. The starting pitching has been very good,
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  Speaker 3: but being able to go seven innings and eighty nine
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  Speaker 3: pitches for a guy that's in shape like Read, that's
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  Speaker 3: not many worrying about him getting through the next inning.
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  Speaker 3: To me, I'm not sure that I would have also
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  Speaker 3: shared those thoughts, but I think Kurt had had a plan.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't work. That's kind of the unfortunate part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Tough night for Ron Kulpa as well. Eighty nine percent
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  Speaker 3: overall accuracy behind the plate, many many challenges, including a
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  Speaker 3: play at the plate, so it wasn't just on balls
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  Speaker 3: of strikes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that play. Seth of course, gave
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  Speaker 1: up the game tying Homer the cam Smith in the eighth,
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  Speaker 1: and the Angels nearly lost this game in the ninth
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  Speaker 1: when Jordan Alvarez singled Christian Walker doubled into the corner
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  Speaker 1: and left, and as Alvarez had stopped at third and
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  Speaker 1: was actually going back to the bag, zach Netto just
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  Speaker 1: fires this wild throw that got past catcher Logan o'hoppy.
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  Speaker 1: It got past Sam Bachman, who was backing up the play.
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  Speaker 1: Bachman did a hell of a job just getting to
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  Speaker 1: that ball and firing a really accurate throw to o'happy,
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  Speaker 1: who puts the tag on Alvarez. Initially ruled safe, replay
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  Speaker 1: rules him out and the Angels get a nice bunt
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  Speaker 1: down by Donovan in the bottom of the tenth and
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  Speaker 1: win it on a series hit. What was zach Netto
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  Speaker 1: thinking there? I know it's kind of a reaction play,
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  Speaker 1: but I mean the runner is in his clear line
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  Speaker 1: of vision and he's still on corks that crazy throw.
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  Speaker 1: That one really stunned me. What's happening with a guy
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  Speaker 1: on a play like that. Is it just a lack
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  Speaker 1: of awareness or what's going on there?
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  Speaker 3: I think it was a great play by Bachmann getting
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  Speaker 3: out of that ball and firing a dart to home
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  Speaker 3: plate right on the money, and that's what it took.
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  Speaker 3: I think that the call being overturned was interesting. Some
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  Speaker 3: of these replays on very obvious calls can take two minutes,
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  Speaker 3: and this one took twenty seconds. And really I saw
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  Speaker 3: an angle that it wasn't totally clear. It looked like
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  Speaker 3: he could have been out. It looked like he could
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  Speaker 3: have been safe. Now, I think the Angels were very
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  Speaker 3: fortunate that Alvarez was the one running. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 3: if they had emptied their bench. I don't think they had,
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  Speaker 3: but he is not their fastest base runner, so maybe
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  Speaker 3: it was because there was a two out rally or whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you answer your original question, I didn't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: dodge it. But what do you think happened on that
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  Speaker 3: through Well?
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  Speaker 1: I think his I think he was just so focused
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  Speaker 1: on making a play at the plate that his mind
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  Speaker 1: was It's almost like you know a guy who's just
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  Speaker 1: determined to swing at a three to one pitch, no
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  Speaker 1: matter where it is. He was thinking he had to three, well,
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  Speaker 1: three and oh, three and one whatever. I just think
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  Speaker 1: he didn't pick up the runner. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: his fielders are yelling hold, hold, hold, I know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna compare it to my playing shortstop when I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid. But he took the he took yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he took the relay and he's turning, you know, right
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  Speaker 1: to left. Alvarez is right in his line of vision,
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  Speaker 1: he's coming back to the bag. At that point, you
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  Speaker 1: just got to eat that ball instead he fires it
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  Speaker 1: to the backstop.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It just seemed like maybe he's a little overamped or
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  Speaker 1: just so keyed up to make to get an out
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  Speaker 1: of the plate. He made a poor decision on my
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  Speaker 1: in my a.
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  Speaker 2: Young queige out in right field.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, good good comp right there, Mark, But once
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  Speaker 1: again good fortune for a chain smiling on the Halos
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  Speaker 1: and they were able to get that winning ten in.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory with Mark Trumbo and
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  Speaker 1: Mike D. G Givanna, Will Robert Urania Walk, five guys
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  Speaker 1: and needed one hundred and seven pitches to get through
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  Speaker 1: five innings. Tuesday night, the Astros put two runners on
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  Speaker 1: on the first, second, and fifth innings. They loaded the
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  Speaker 1: bases in the third, but Urania escaped each gym. Let's
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  Speaker 1: hear what manager Kurt Suzuki had to say after that performance.
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  Speaker 7: Urania was grinding out there, but still gets through five.
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  Speaker 2: To get the win. And what did you see from
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  Speaker 2: him as he was battling?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean he was competing out there tonight,
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  Speaker 4: and obviously he didn't have his best command, but.
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  Speaker 5: His just desire to get through that game is what
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  Speaker 5: pulled him through.
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  Speaker 2: And that's you can't teach that, you know.
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  Speaker 8: So it was really nice to see him have that competitive.
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  Speaker 1: Nature to pull him through when he didn't have his
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  Speaker 1: best command.
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  Speaker 2: And it was fun to watch.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of pitches, one hundred and seven pitches. How
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  Speaker 4: much were you hoping you can get that last better? Gosh,
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  Speaker 4: it was fun to watch, but it was stressful to
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  Speaker 4: watch too, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted him to be able to get through five.
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  Speaker 4: Guys strong as you know anybody I've ever been around.
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  Speaker 2: So it was those fighter he was still throwing ninety eight,
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  Speaker 2: you know, last hit or so it was nice for me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I personally love the fact that Kurt let him
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  Speaker 1: stay in and get that last better. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was overthrown his fastball a little bit to get to that.
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  Speaker 2: Point, but he did make it.
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  Speaker 1: He got the win, and Mark we talked a little
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  Speaker 1: bit about this and on a few previous shows. But
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  Speaker 1: this kid's ability to escape these kind of jams and
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  Speaker 1: to pitch through that kind of traffic. Does he look
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  Speaker 1: like a twenty two year old to you?
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  Speaker 3: Not in the least. He's It's hard to explain how
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  Speaker 3: a guy acquires this kind of calm and cool under pressure.
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  Speaker 3: It probably has. It could be a trade he's had
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  Speaker 3: his whole life. He could I don't know what his
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  Speaker 3: hobbies are off the field or his formative years, But seriously,
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: how do you teach someone this. It's very difficult seeing
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  Speaker 3: a lot of examples of it not on display. But
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  Speaker 3: he seems to have immediately come into major leagues and
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  Speaker 3: you know, not only is he holding his own, he's dominating.
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  Speaker 3: And this one game where he brought I think he
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  Speaker 3: said it, actually, I don't know. He might have said
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  Speaker 3: his warm ups were quite good. It's either one or
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  Speaker 3: the other. Is that what he said?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's we'll take a listen to the postgame
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  Speaker 1: interview with Urania and we do ask him about you know,
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  Speaker 1: that ability to stay composed under pressure.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hear from Warburt. That's how happy were you to
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  Speaker 2: get that last day? Get the five minutes?
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  Speaker 9: I mean grat I was trying to find my command
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  Speaker 9: heavy all game, so I was great to get out
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  Speaker 9: of the audien in and got the wins.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of pitches.
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  Speaker 2: You know, what were you fighting with you mean tonight?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: I wake up today and I feel like I was
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  Speaker 9: ready to throw a ninety innings, So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted out good. I feel really good. Uh, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what changed in the game.
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  Speaker 9: I may look it up and uh yeah outen that
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  Speaker 9: was love pitches, Uh, Dutch plum.
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  Speaker 2: Was what's up for me? Very frustrating, sorry, honest and
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  Speaker 2: totally be happy for the five zero.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah he's like, give me that five zeros and you
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  Speaker 9: know he's in bad moment right now, but yeah, he's
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  Speaker 9: trying to be happy with me.
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  Speaker 3: What did you have to do to still be able
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  Speaker 3: to get the ounce even though you wanted football in
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  Speaker 3: want of it.
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  Speaker 9: I mean mentally, I think, just trying to be calm.
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  Speaker 9: I know it isaly frustrated, trying many bitches, but at
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  Speaker 9: the moment I'm just trying to get out I and
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  Speaker 9: that's the way they walk or everything, and just trying
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  Speaker 9: to find it.
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  Speaker 1: How do you change mentally when there's two on, bases loaded,
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  Speaker 1: all all these.
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  Speaker 9: Things like tonight, what I say is trying to be calm,
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  Speaker 9: trying to make in bitches. I know, so they wasn't
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  Speaker 9: the best kamamba. Yeah, what I say again, just trying
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  Speaker 9: to be calm, trusting and making bitches.
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  Speaker 1: Yet Yeah, I don't know, twenty two year old kid here.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like human nature, especially for a rookie guy's
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  Speaker 1: first year in the big leagues, is when you get
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  Speaker 1: in these situations with the bases loaded two on, none
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  Speaker 1: out whatever, human nature dictates that you'd be a little
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  Speaker 1: more amped up, you know, maybe try to throw more
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  Speaker 1: pitches by guys. Maybe it's because this kid has just
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  Speaker 1: a lethal change up as one of his best weapons.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that helps him slow the game down. But what
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  Speaker 1: does it say Mark about his long term future that
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  Speaker 1: he's able to stay so common these situations.
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  Speaker 3: Firstly, I'd like to say huge credit for giving the
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  Speaker 3: interview in English and not leaning on a translator. Some
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  Speaker 3: guys need it and they use it, but I think
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  Speaker 3: that that impressed the heck out of me.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the English is not perfect for anyone who might
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  Speaker 3: want to comment or something, but do you know how
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  Speaker 3: tough it is and how rare it is for guys
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  Speaker 3: to be willing to give an English interview, So huge
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  Speaker 3: kudos on that. Very impressive and I think guys that
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  Speaker 3: have done that in the past have really gone. I
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  Speaker 3: don't It's not a predictive thing for success, but it
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  Speaker 3: does a dedication to trying to, you know, be a
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  Speaker 3: complete player and integrate. So the guy has impressed that.
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's nothing not to like. His pitching on
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  Speaker 3: the field is tremendous. His comments off There's a good
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  Speaker 3: chance maybe the Angels minor league coaches helped him in
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  Speaker 3: this regard too. I think it'd be remiss not to
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  Speaker 3: say that that could That could have been a part
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  Speaker 3: of it as well. It just seems like his overall
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  Speaker 3: demeanor is pretty laid back and easy going, but when
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  Speaker 3: he gets on the mound, he's able to you know,
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  Speaker 3: rock and fire, and he's got a lethal two pitch mix.
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  Speaker 3: Hitters do not seem to be able to make any
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  Speaker 3: kind of adjustment. The Astros flail in and I don't
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  Speaker 3: know as a hitter myself what approach I would take
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  Speaker 3: because he has so much movement. Initially I'd probably think
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  Speaker 3: right center, but he throws so hard that he has
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's hard to kind of do with a
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  Speaker 3: guy throwing ninety eight ninety nine or more. So hitters
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  Speaker 3: are going to have to adjust. I will try and
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  Speaker 3: look and see who's actually had a little bit of success,
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  Speaker 3: but to no one so far. Yeah, I will say.
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  Speaker 3: Jose Soriano has also been.
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  Speaker 1: Doing his interviews in English, another Dominican right hander, and
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  Speaker 1: I asked the Angels PR staff about that, because there
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  Speaker 1: aren't many guys in past and certainly past Angels history
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  Speaker 1: who've been able to do that, and he said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: once Soriano did it, it sort of encouraged some of the
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  Speaker 1: other guys to do it. So kudos to kudos to
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  Speaker 1: sori especially and the Angels for encouraging that. All right, now,
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  Speaker 1: let's turn our attention to Baseball's feel good story of
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  Speaker 1: the week, maybe of the season. Trey Mancini, who was
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  Speaker 1: diagnosed with stage three colon cancer in twenty twenty, who
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: hadn't played a big league game since twenty twenty three,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: who nearly retired before twenty twenty five, was called up
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: on Monday from Triple A Salt Lake and had three
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: hits in an RBI in his first big league game
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: in one thousand and.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: Forty three days well.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Trey caught up with the guys at the Foul Territory
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Network this week, and he he talked about what that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: moment was like for him.
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: Like you said, it's like debuting all over again. It
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: was the same emotions all day that I felt ten
• 18:08
  Speaker 8: years ago when I debuted. The you know, not really
• 18:11
  Speaker 8: sleep in the night before, not eating much during the day,
• 18:16
  Speaker 8: you know, a little nervousness, but also excitement, adrenaline, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: then when the game started, you know, the whole world
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: just kind of slowed down. And I hadn't felt that
• 18:26
  Speaker 8: since September twenty sixteen when I debuted, so I didn't
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: expect to ever feel that on a baseball field again,
• 18:33
  Speaker 8: and it was. It was pretty incredible.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Now, Mark, you were a teammate a Trey man scenes
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in Baltimore from twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen. You've maintained
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: your friendship with him over the years. What was that
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: like for you to see him back in the big
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: leagues and doing what he did Monday night?
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: Incredible that amount of time off, that kind of dedication.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I've talked to him routinely. Some of this stuff. Obviously
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: it's private, so I'm not going to laugh about it
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: on here, but I know that there have been times
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: and he has said as much that even this year
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: he was ready to call it. I was very surprised
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: that he hung in there when Nolan initially hit the
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: IL and he did not get a promotion, because I
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: think that was a time where it was quite obvious,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: especially because he is a first baseman and they have
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: a first baseman that's on the IL, and he didn't
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: get the call it. But credit to him, he hung
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: on there just a little bit longer and did get
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the news he was hoping for.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Coming into spring training.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: He really this offseason had not prepared like a normal
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: offseason to play. I think it was later in the
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: Winner that Brady got in his ear and said that
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: I think you have some more left in the tank.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And he was right, and he does. And I think that.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Initial game, I mean he had the bat speed, he
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: had the rhythm, the timing, everything you'd look for. And
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: his defense has been very nice as well. So this
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: is a guy that can come in immediately contribute not
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: only on the field, but he is a true veteran.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: Now he can impart wisdom on these young players. He's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: been there, he's done it. He's done literally everything you
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: could probably do in this game, including overcoming, you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: one of the greatest adversities you could ever wish. In
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: the prime of his career, he was a stage four,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Stage three, yeah, stage three, sorry, and battle came back.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: He talked about it. I think we have maybe another
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: clip about some of his thoughts and feelings too, if
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: we're going to play that.
• 20:32
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  Speaker 1: from Trey Mancini.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory with Mark Trumbull and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Mike D.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: Givonna.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, as we said, Mancini missed the twenty twenty season
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: while undergoing cancer treatments. Played with Baltimore in twenty one
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and parts of twenty two, was traded to Houston in
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: twenty two. It was actually a remember the Astros World
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Series win team in twenty two.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: He played for the Cubs.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty three and sat out twenty twenty four.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He was about to retire from baseball, but was talked
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: out of it by a current Angels hitting coach, Brady Anderson.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Let's hear what Trey had to say about that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: Brady Anderson is like the sole reason I'm still playing.
• 22:22
  Speaker 8: He reached out to me originally in July of twenty
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: twenty four and told me that he thinks I should
• 22:28
  Speaker 8: give it another shot and keep playing, And deep down
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: I knew that I could, but I had an extended
• 22:36
  Speaker 8: period of time where I didn't play well and didn't
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: know if I wanted to get back into the game.
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: And I was fine being done, but something just kind
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: of started eating away at me at how my career ended,
• 22:50
  Speaker 8: and knowing that I still had the ability I think
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: would eat away at me maybe years later. So I
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: went and hit with him a few months after he
• 23:00
  Speaker 8: reached out to me, and it felt great, and the
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: Diamondbacks gave me the opportunity to get back in the
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: game that offseason.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Well, Trey.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He did play a triple A reno in Arizona system
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, but he opted out on June first,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: hoping to catch on with another team. No one called,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: so then he signs with the Angels a minor league
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: deal in January. But it's still been, as we say,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: over a thousand days now since he played in the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: big leagues, and the guys at Fouled Territory asked Trey
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: if it was tougher to struggle in the big leagues
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: or to play well and not get the call. And
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: here's what Trey had to say about that.
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: Playing poorly is tough. But you know, for a few
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: years there especially, you know, I was diagnosed with cancer
• 23:48
  Speaker 8: in twenty twenty, and I think it took a huge
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: mental tone on me for the years after, which I
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: didn't expect. You know, I thought it was going to be,
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: you know, I'd go through chemo and it would be done.
• 24:00
  Speaker 8: But you're still really concerned about your health after the fact.
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: And I think my confidence took a huge hit, just
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: kind of slowly over the next few years, and I
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: became a bit of a shell of myself on the
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: baseball field, I think because of that. And you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: it took being away from the game in twenty twenty
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: four to I think get over that and admit to
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: myself that I wish that I could have, you know,
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: snapped out of it a little bit better. But you know,
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: hindsight's twenty twenty. So it's incredible to be back and
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: have the opportunity to play again with that perspective and
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: thinking that I was done. You know, I felt a
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: million miles away from from baseball. Like even this past fall,
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: I was like just playing tennis on my tennis team
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: at the country club, like I thought I was retired
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: for good. You know, I was getting ready to announce
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: it before Brady called.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I love that playing tennis of the club. Bark. You
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: were a teammate of Treys when.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: He hit two ninety one with an eight ninety nine ops,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: thirty five homers, thirty eight doubles and ninety seven RBIs
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for the Orioles in twenty nineteen.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Now, nobody expects him to repeat those kind of.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Numbers of the Angels. But what do you feel like
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: he can bring to this team at this point?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: He can bring a calm in presence for some of
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: the young guys that may you know, the game speeds
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: up on them, if that is a thing that goes on.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But really just his on field play, the way he
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: goes about his daily work, habits that he's played a
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: long time, He's absorbed a lot of wisdom. He was
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: a young kid on an Orioles team that was stacked
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: with veterans, so kind of like the situation I had
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: with the Angels coming up, he was. He experienced that dynamic.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And you know, he's just an excellent all around guy
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: as well. Always friendly, you've probably noticed that, and a
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: very candid interview too. He gives very thoughtful responses and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the opposite from you know a lot of guys, and
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that's fine if they don't want to divulge too much.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: But I mean, it's it's been a great story and
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I think that, you know, his swing looks very reminiscent
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: of the swing that I saw produce huge results, you know,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: very big seasons. So if he can get some consistent
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: at bats, I think he can really contribute.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: All right, s turn our attention to Mike Trout, who
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: snapped an oh for twenty two slump with a single
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: to right field in the second ending Tuesday. Maybe a coincidence,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: maybe not. He hit a solo home run on Wednesday
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Night's game first let's hear what he had to say
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: after Tuesday night's game.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: He is not the end of the word, but I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: sure when you was getting pretty long, So yeah, Feld
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: who was definitely good to squeak one in there. I
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: felt like you know.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: The past, you know, it's uh hit ball is hard
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: just being caught. But it's about baseball.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Is Did you feel like you were swinging?
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I mean no, I mean there was some there were
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: some times where I felt a little off to play,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: but then there was times where I felt good.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: So, uh, you know, it's baseball. So are you fighting
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: something in the box or is it just a field
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: on me? No, just uh seeing the ball.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: You know, I think it always comes down to being
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: in the guests.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: About the hit. And you know, when I'm you know.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Crashing forward, yeah, lose vision of the ball, so it
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the ball moves on me and that's why I started
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to chase.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, the lineup in general today, you got a
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: lot of guys had hits.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Hits the scoring position, didn't strike out that much. I mean,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: what are those days like for you guys?
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's good having great at bats, passing baton,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: you know, putting the ball in play. I think that's
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: been the key and not trying to do too much.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you're seeing.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: That when you know the guys that are coming up
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: having great at bats, I mean Mike Greg w three
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: three walks of night.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: So that's a pretty.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Depressive, you feel like just not kind of putting a
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: little slump to rescue, like like an energy shift at all.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Or do you think you see.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: The starting No, I mean it's uh, you know, the
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: work come in every day, the work's been been good,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: good to good in the cage, just not.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Getting a result, but you know, we want to max up.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: We're two plus months and you've been playing every day.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: How do you feel physically? You know there's some you know,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: things come up obviously, but nothing crazy. So I feel good.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: So way yeah, well, Mark, take us into the batter's box.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: What does Trout mean when he says, using his words,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: when he crashes forward, the ball moves on me, and
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that's when I start to chase.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: What he's saying is his swing probably is the sequence.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: It's just a little bit out of sorts. His head
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: is traveling more and it might not be discernible and
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: it won't be from the you know, the normal view
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: watching the television, but if you were to look from
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: the side, there probably is some forward travel going on.
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: So it essentially means that his balance and is not
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: exactly where he wants it to be. His back leg
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: is probably not as stable as he would like, and
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: it can happen for any number of reasons. Sometimes it's
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: especially if your the results aren't happening, You're far more
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: likely to want to go get the ball. I think
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: that it's a very tough concept that sounds so simple.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Just let it travel, let it get deep. Good luck
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: when these guys are thrown almost one hundred most of
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: the time, so it's a very fine line, and I
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: think he's really looking to keep his head behind the
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: ball a little bit more and make contact out in front.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I think that last night was a lot better. I
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: think it's trended in the right direction. It's no one's
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: immune from going through those things. But I think hearing
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: what he had to say there, he could be you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the timing could be a little.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Bit late too. I've said it before, but the answer.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Is overall and the health one. I don't think he
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: was dodging anything. I think he was just acknowledging that
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: when are you one hundred percent? Maybe never, you know,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: first day of spring, post first day of spring.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Beyond that, he's, you know, health wise, has been
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: excellent this year.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're going to close the show with a pop quiz.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Mark Trumbo, who leads the Angels and saves.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Adam Jordan Romano.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Jordan Romano is the saves leader with four. That's the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: same Jordan Romano who was released at the end of April.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: The Angels have converted six of twenty one save opportunities.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: They have two saves since April fourth. Their last save
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: was the page twenty third mark. How is that even possible?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: It's hard to fatho on other the reality is the
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: bullpen in those situations has let them down repeatedly. It's
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: been a very sore spot. There's an argument and a
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: lot of people tend to believe this team could be
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: significantly better in the standings, and yes, they would be
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: if those saves were converted. Now, they've had struggles in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: other areas as well. It is very tough to win.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Leading the league in strikeouts, there's no way around that.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I highlighted one team that did at the Minnesota twins.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: They also struck out the most hitters on the pitching
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: side and played excellent defense in the Angels defense, unless
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I saw incorrectly rates as the worst or one of
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the worst, depending on Sometimes it's subjective with the range
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and other things. But they're trying to play a different
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: style of baseball. You saw the sack bunts. You had
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: a nice one, Walton had one, and that to me
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: signify a clear shift going towards more manufacturing of runs,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: less reliant. The comments continue to kind of trickle in,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: not a relyingt on the home run. I think certain
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: guys are going to not change their approach. It's pretty
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: obvious who they are. Logan had some nice comments about
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: his swing too, turned in the right direction. He said,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: of you know, feel wise, he feels like he's really headed,
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you know where he wants to be. And these are
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the types of bats that he's capable of putting up,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: so he could go on a tear. Time will tell,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: but you know, it's nice to get some results with
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: all the hard works. So very nice game. Would have
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: been nice to close it out in regulation nine innings,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: but they got the win and Syria with a nice
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: line drive after the swing before, a little bit interesting,
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: a little bit adjusted, but he's a guy that I
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: don't think you know, you can go with him.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: It's pitch to pitch, you never know. It makes it interesting.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: He went from probably the most defense of swing we've
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: seen all year to walk off line drive sing on
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the left field as I forget who said it, but
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: that's how baseball go. We'll close the episode with that.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Thanks for tuning in, Thanks for listening. Please like and subscribe.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: We will see you next time on Halo Territory