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Drive Thru News #18 - Party like it’s 99! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to drive thru episode number 18.
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  This is our monthly recap where we've put together a menu of automotive,
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  motorsport, and random car adjacent news.
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  Now let's pull up to the window number one for some automotive news.
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  And tonight we're going to party like it's 99.
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  1999?
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  You're only a couple decades late.
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  No, no!
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  Our 99th Break Fix episode.
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  Can you believe it?
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  And guess what folks?
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  Rejoining us tonight is the one, the only, our resident Viking.
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  The return of the Brad.
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  What's up, Brad?
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  What's going on, everybody?
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  I'm glad to be back.
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  I see that our listenership has grown so much during the time that I was gone.
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  I thought maybe I should just stay away.
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  Is that how it goes?
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  Is that how it works?
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  You guys did so well when I was gone that I thought maybe I just won't come back.
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  You know, speaking of things that might not be coming back, that's
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  actually our showcase this month.
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  In honor of the winter recap, I think we need to talk about cars that are
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  headed to the graveyard for 2022.
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  If we're going to talk about cars that are headed to the graveyard,
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  can we also talk about cars that should be headed to the graveyard?
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  Absolutely.
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  So what's on this wonderful listicle that we've been provided by MarketWatch?
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  Well, this one's sad to me.
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  The Toyota Land Cruiser.
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  Is the first one listed here because I'm always so prepared for these
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  drive throughs as our listeners know.
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  I don't know if this is just in the U.
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  S.
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  or if this is across the board.
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  Now the Land Cruiser in the U.
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  S.
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  was a bit of a hard pill to swallow because it was 90 grand.
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  I don't know who was paying 90 grand for a Toyota that didn't have an L badge on it.
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  Yeah, so the Land Cruiser is going away.
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  I am not sad to see the next vehicle on this list going away.
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  That is the Land Cruiser.
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  Probably worst looking car that we've seen the last 20 years, which is the BMW i3.
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  No, I don't wouldn't say it's the worst looking car.
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  And you know, it has normal sized grills for BMW.
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  So already it looks better than the new BMWs.
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  These are little grills compared to BMW.
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  I mean, if they put the new grills on this thing, it would just be grill
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  in the front ones from the 7th year.
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  I grill the grill.
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  I think Apple patented that terminology, the eye grill, plug it in your iPhone.
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  But, you know, on this list to no one's surprises.
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  All of the Volvo station wagons.
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  I mean, very handsome vehicles, but they just didn't sell.
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  They're beautiful.
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  The V90, I thought when it first came out was a gorgeous wagon.
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  The problem was you couldn't get a V90 unless you special ordered it.
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  You could get cross countries or cross tour, whatever they called it.
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  You could get those on the dealer lots, but the V90 had to be a special order.
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  That one's not going away apparently.
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  So not all Volvo wagons are leaving.
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  We test drove the smaller one, I think it was the V60 when that one came out.
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  And it was cool.
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  The price tag was hefty.
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  I think the only problem, because we had some very specific shopping criteria,
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  was the cargo space was pretty small and the roof line was pretty low slung.
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  So it made it kind of cramped compared to other vehicles we were looking at.
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  It's not a surprise.
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  We've talked about this on our, what should I buy a station wagons episode
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  where it's diminishing returns in terms of manufacturers making station wagons.
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  Right.
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  And as we know, everybody's in love with SUVs, but they're just giant hatchbacks.
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  I guess say lovey.
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  Right.
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  And along with that hatchbacks that are going away or CUVs, I guess you want
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  to call it the short lived CX three by Mazda to no one's surprise, but it's
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  being replaced by the CX three zero.
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  What exactly is the difference?
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  I thought that was their weird rotary hybrid thing that we had
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  talked about a few months back.
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  The CX 30 is not hybrid.
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  They run on gasoline.
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  Does that have that holy grail motor that they came out with?
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  I don't know.
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  It's listed as a Skyactiv G 2.
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  5 turbo engine, 250 horsepower, 324 pounds of torque, 93 octane fuel.
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  But I thought we reported on them using that same chassis and
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  body to put in a rotary hybrid.
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  They were working on some experimental.
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  Something rather, but it's never come to fruition.
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  Sorry, Tom.
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  They're not bringing back another rotary anytime soon.
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  Yes, but this is a car you can buy today and it's replaced the
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  Mazda CX3 and they look the same.
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  This is the Mazda CX3 is replaced by the Mazda CX3 Zero.
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  It must be like zero people will buy it.
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  It must be like two inches bigger.
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  I don't know.
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  On that list also includes.
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  Mazda six.
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  I haven't seen one of those in a while.
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  There's other cars like the pole star by Volvo, which was a cool, I didn't
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  know that it was going to be a real car.
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  I thought it was a concept.
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  I think it's neat, but you know, the days of the two door
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  coupe are pretty much dead.
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  And on this list are two cars that are also quite similar.
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  So One we talked about, I think almost a year ago, and it's not the Honda
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  Civic, it's the Volkswagen Golf.
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  Obviously the two of our golfs are already gone.
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  Volkswagen is leaving behind the GTI and the Golf R.
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  And along with that Hyundai is following suit by leaving behind
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  the Veloster N and killing off the rest of the Veloster line and models
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  and packages that were available.
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  So that rounds out like the top 10 cars that are dead for 2022.
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  All of these are ICE cars, right?
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  There aren't any hybrids leaving this list.
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  But.
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  The future is electric as we know.
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  So there is, there is the Honda Clarity is leaving.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Sorry.
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  I forgot about that.
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  Just like I forgot about, you've got a blind spot for Honda's period.
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  You just read Honda and it's just one, one, one, one, one, one, one.
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  You didn't bother reading the rest.
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  I feel, I apologize to the three and a half people that bought Honda Clarity's.
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  I didn't even know they existed.
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  I thought they were like, it's, Honda does this weird thing where they
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  come out with these really innovative forward looking vehicles and they
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  release them in Calabasas or like one small section of the country.
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  This is a California only car, a fuel cell.
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  I think they had some propane cars.
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  They had some hydrogen cars.
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  Everything is.
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  California only.
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  So I'm not sad to see it go.
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  Cause I wasn't around to see it here.
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  I feel like it was a soft launch and there wasn't any big hubbub about it.
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  Or maybe there wasn't, we missed it.
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  It's just something that's not on the radar.
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  It's not the most attractive car in the world.
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  I mean, from certain angles, you're like, yeah, it kind of looks like the new.
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  Integra, like you said, I'm not gonna be sad to see it go.
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  You know, to me it looks like a maxima.
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  Okay, let's say that's the only EV on the list.
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  There's five other EVs or more that are gonna replace it, and those are also on
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  a listicle provided by car and driver.
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  So what's on our list here of new and expected EVs?
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  The Audi A six E-Tron, yet another e-tron.
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  The Audi Q4.
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  Yeah.
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  I saw an Audi A3 e tron the other day, and I was almost thinking the guys
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  just stuck a badge on the side of it.
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  That was the first e tron outside of like the race cars and stuff.
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  It was like the e golf and it was yet again, like the clarity, a car that.
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  They didn't really advertise.
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  I actually rode in an A3 e tron.
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  A friend of mine owns one in California and I was actually
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  pretty impressed with it.
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  Bragging about all the numbers and all this kind of stuff, but
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  it's one of those deals where it was kind of like a zombie car.
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  And we'll talk about those in a moment where they couldn't sell.
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  They were sitting on lots forever, but the markup was so high that
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  nobody was going to buy them.
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  I mean, if you're into it for the California credits, you
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  know, absolutely go for it.
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  The non surprises are on this list are yes, All the trons,
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  all the, the numbers are coming.
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  Well, the, the next one's the BMWI four e-tron and the, and the, and all the I,
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  all the numbers of the I, the BMW, even though the I threes going away, the I
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  four, the I seven, the ix, we get it.
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  The, the Germans know their vowels.
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  We get it.
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  The E's and the i's, they're all coming.
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  I owe you and sometimes why ? I think Y goes to this Bollinger B one and B two.
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  Which I believe we talked about a while ago, maybe.
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  Very utilitarian, very geometric.
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  I mean, how do you make an old Land Rover uglier?
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  Uh, it's, it's very simplistic.
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  Two and a half people might buy this.
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  I mean, it's also starts at 125, 000.
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  Oh, that hurts.
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  It's going to be a niche market nonetheless, but you have your
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  choice of the B1 or the B2, the B2 being the pickup truck.
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  Are they both greenhouses?
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  Like, are you guys seeing this roof?
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  Oh yeah.
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  It looks to me like they took an old British phone booth and put wheels on
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  it and then they called it a rain roof.
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  Turned it on its side.
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  I feel like they missed an opportunity to call it TARDIS 1 and TARDIS 2.
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  Pretty much.
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  And then we have like three or four entries from GM that all look the same.
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  Well, do you think the Buick Electra looks the same as what?
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  I mean, it's got that same snout as the Lyric and the Celestique, however
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  you pronounce that, and the Trailblazer and the Blazer and the Equinox,
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  they all kind of just look the same, especially the Equinox and that Buick,
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  they got almost the same beak on them.
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  I would not say that at all, but they are reminiscent of each other, but this
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  Buick is very angular in the front.
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  Yes, it is.
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  It looks more like a Mazda CX 3 that's leaving.
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  If you had just shown this where there's no badging on this car, cover the wheels,
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  I wouldn't have known it was a GM product.
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  I would have guessed it was Japanese.
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  I don't like those doors.
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  I think that is totally useless.
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  They're like double sided scissor doors, meaning the back and the front both,
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  both scissor for all your passengers.
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  I doubt the production model would ever come like that.
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  Probably not, even though that's space savings and parking lots and things like
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  that, that's never actually ever come to fruition on anything but a hypercar, so.
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  Yeah, I don't see it passing NHSTA standards or something.
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  Some law.
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  Without a B Tiller, no way.
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  But I do have to say, we've talked about the GM products, boring.
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  I found my next vehicle right here under the GM products.
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  It's the canoe.
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  All right.
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  All right.
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  Okay.
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  That cab over pickup truck looks really, really legit to me.
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  I think that's really slick in a sort of Jurassic park was the
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  future 25 years ago sort of way.
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  Like I think these look really cool.
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  These are the futuristic renditions of what we think in the year 2050,
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  which is like around the corner, everything was going to be Jetsons.
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  Like these are the vehicles that would have been driving.
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  The van version of the canoe definitely looks like a Renault is fast.
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  I mean, that's, that's Brett's next tow vehicle.
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  What are you talking about?
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  That's the equivalent of the church fan for the Korean writing on the side.
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  There are some bands right now that are very similar and I don't think
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  they're made by canoe or canoe or however it's pronounced that are
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  running around doing autonomous testing, delivery vehicles and things like that,
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  particularly in California right now.
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  So, you know, who knows what the future of this is.
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  Those wacky Californians.
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  Since you're a Chrysler fan.
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  Yeah, this airflow looks really nice.
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  Like it's reminiscent of the 200 a little bit.
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  I like the back too, except for the C pillar, or actually I guess it
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  would be the D pillar is kind of oddly cut, but I understand, you
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  know, that's the way now with these weird angular rear windows and stuff.
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  But the back of it is reminiscent of an e tron of all things,
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  but I like the way it looks.
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  It's, it's, it's, It's very Italian.
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  It's not very Chrysler, but you know, like we speculated in months past,
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  Chrysler may be the rebirth of these EVs because the brand doesn't really have
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  anything right now when you compare it to Ram and Dodge and the other offerings
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  that are under the same umbrella.
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  I think this is a good opportunity for them to capitalize on the EV space.
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  I want to know why there's no Chrysler EV PT cruiser.
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  I have no answer for that.
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  And my mind immediately says Mach E when I hear that combination,
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  just like, no, it's not happening.
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  I mean, this list goes on basically in alphabetical order, manufacturers,
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  A through Z, essentially, you know, some of these aren't anything
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  new because they're, they're.
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  We're already known to be expected this year, so hopefully they should be coming
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  out this year, barring hashtag chips, others are 23, 24, 25 and things we've hit
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  on already before some of the offerings from like Hyundai and Mercedes as well.
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  You're right.
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  I think there's a couple surprises on here.
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  I would say like the Fisker SUV.
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  Made me give it the hairy eyebrow because I'm like, Fisker is not
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  known for building a CUV SUV.
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  So I'm like, I don't know, stick to building Aston Martin competitor.
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  Cause that's what Fisker is kind of known for is the sporty
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  coupes and those convertibles.
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  But really going into the SUV market, I'm almost like to stop.
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  What about the Lagonda?
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  It confuses me.
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  Cause is that an Aston Martin or is that just its own thing?
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  Aston Martin spun off the name.
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  As their electric luxury brand.
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  Again, there's some stuff that's undercover here.
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  There's some entries by Volvo, the new Porsches.
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  To your point, Tanya, things that we've talked about, I will say one of
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  the coolest things on here is probably this Rivian again, we're pretty excited
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  about that and we're going to talk a little bit more about the Sony Vision S.
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  show.
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  And the thing I think that did surprise me because it was going
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  to be my hot take this month.
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  You know, where is Subaru in the next five years?
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  They are finally coming to the table with an EV expected this
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  year known as the Solterra.
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  I can't say I'm a fan.
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  of the body cladding, but I'm glad to see that, you know, super is doing something
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  cause I was afraid that they were going to be the way of the dodo bird here in
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  the next couple of years because they just, there was no talk around Subaru
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  producing anything in the EV space to just piggyback off that for a hot second.
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  Apparently A couple of days ago at the Tokyo auto salon, they unveiled
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  a 1, 073 horsepower STI ERA electric track car that is supposed to spank all
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  records of electric race cars on the Nürburgring or some crazy thing like that.
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  So they might not have.
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  Held their cards out yet, what they were doing, but clearly they've been
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  doing something in the background.
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  I mean, I am wholly certain that even though it's electric, it will
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  find a way to spin a rod bearing.
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  So, you know, it's just tradition within the halls of Subaru, but
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  you know, Hey, whatever, we'll, we'll see how it turns out.
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  Now I will say this as you go through the list.
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  I didn't realize that the Subaru entry and they have done cross work with other
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  manufacturers before the Toyota BZ4X and the Subaru Solterra look a lot alike and
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  the dead giveaway is that front clip.
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  It actually says the Solterra will be based on the same platform
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  as the Toyota BZ4X electric.
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  Well, see, there we go.
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  Good job, Brad.
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  Welcome back because I had the exact same thought and I went back
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  and I was like looking at it and then I saw, oh yeah, Toyota before.
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  Yes.
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  So it's, it's basically a wrap for which they already have a hybrid wrap for now.
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  So, all right, whatever, which by the way, Toyota, I saw a commercial earlier
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  today for a Toyota Corolla cross.
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  Basically a RAV4 rebadges a Corolla Cross.
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  I don't know if they're keeping the RAV4 name, but there is a Corolla SUV
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  coming to the market that nobody wanted.
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  Why just, yeah, you have your RAV4.
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  Make it a wrap three.
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  I don't know.
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  I think my biggest question about everything on this list, I mean,
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  and this spans the gamut, right?
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  From the Tesla cyber truck to, you know, the Chevy trailblazer
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  to everything in between.
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  How many of these are going to be sub 40 K for the everyday user?
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  For the, you know, the driver that's just starting out or maybe even the,
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  you know, now newly minted professional college graduate who's looking for
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  their first, you know, kind of adult car that isn't a hand me down from
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  their grandparents or their parents.
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  Where is that sub, I guess now by 2022 standards of inflation, 40, 000 car.
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  I just, I don't see it yet.
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  You know what I mean?
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  A lot of people have complained about that because it's just,
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  everything's way too expensive.
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  So what they're doing is instead of a sub $40,000 car,
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  they've got longer loan terms.
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  Seven to 10 year loan terms are gonna take over for the more expensive vehicles.
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  . I'm gonna leave that where it is to tease up Brad's favorite
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  section, lost and Found.
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  We've got some zombie cars that are still for sale of dealer lots.
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  Before I go further into these zombie cars, they should probably just start
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  dismantling them because nobody wants them in the first place and start using the
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  chips hashtag chips in the newer cars.
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  Can they do that?
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  Can they retrofit the chips?
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  You know, I would think that they double dip their chip,
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  never double dip your chip.
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  I often wonder if they could recycle some of the cars from the last five years and
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  reuse some of the chips that are there.
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  Like everything else have to have the snap dragon 12 core
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  because the eight core isn't fast enough and the automotive world.
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  None of the gear that we really use in the cars I feel is that sophisticated
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  and there's probably chips that can be reused from even 10 or 15 years
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  ago to get some of this stuff done.
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  Zombie cars, cars that are discontinued, but still brand new onto your lots.
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  What do we got Brad?
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  We've got a BMW 6 series.
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  They sold 55 BMW six series.
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  And when did they stop making that car?
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  2019 there's another BMW on this list.
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  The BMW I eight, when did they stop making that?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't even know that it was sold.
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  Whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  Only person I know that has one is James Clay.
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  And he admitted that when he was on the BMW episode.
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  No, this is so, you know, two people that had one because, uh,
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  What's his face from HOD had one.
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, you're right.
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  The total sales number here, they discontinued the car, and
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  then how many they've sold, brand new, since discontinuing.
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  Is there a number here that's like, maybe they shouldn't have discontinued it?
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  Because my least favorite car, the Impala, is on this list.
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  I was, I was like, Apparently still sold 750 of them last year.
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  That was 750 last year.
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  According to that is a very small number in the grand
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  scheme of car sold for the year.
• 18:35
  That's 750 more than you expected to be sold.
• 18:38
  Yeah.
• 18:39
  Is this because these car manufacturers are saving these turds from the
• 18:43
  wrecker because they can't put newer models on the lots, so dealers are
• 18:48
  going around and finding these other cars that they can sell as new.
• 18:51
  I'm also wondering, what's the threshold on the demo cars?
• 18:54
  Don't they have to exceed a certain mileage before they're considered used,
• 18:59
  but they can still be new, even if they have like 300 miles on them or something.
• 19:02
  I don't think the mileage has anything to do with it.
• 19:04
  I think if it's titled in anything other than the dealership, then
• 19:07
  it's considered a used car.
• 19:08
  Oh, so then there you go.
• 19:10
  So I'm wondering if maybe some of these Impalas were demo cars on
• 19:13
  the lot that were just never sold.
• 19:15
  So 750 dealerships in the U S that still had one Impala doesn't seem too
• 19:21
  impossible in the grand scheme of things.
• 19:23
  There were 750 people that wanted that car.
• 19:27
  I'm going the other way.
• 19:28
  It was one dealership that had 750 Impalas.
• 19:33
  They doubled down on the Impalas.
• 19:35
  They shorted the Impala market.
• 19:37
  The Chrysler ones are no surprise, right?
• 19:40
  The, the 200, the Town and Country, the Dart.
• 19:44
  Again, those are all feel like loaner cars that just never sold.
• 19:48
  And the numbers are so small, 15, four and 10.
• 19:51
  I mean, shoot.
• 19:52
  I think there were.
• 19:53
  10 of them at the local dealership here, you know?
• 19:55
  Yeah, the Dodge Viper sold four total sales.
• 19:57
  Two of them went to Andrew Bank.
• 20:02
  We'll talk about more on that in a couple weeks.
• 20:05
  So the award on this list for the oldest new car goes to the Toyota FJ Cruiser.
• 20:11
  I know, right?
• 20:12
  Apparently some dealership kept one on the lot since 2014.
• 20:17
  It finally sold it last year.
• 20:19
  I mean, there's some other interesting surprises on here.
• 20:22
  The Patriot.
• 20:22
  I'm, I'm shocked.
• 20:23
  There's still some around that are new, but I think the 370 Z out of
• 20:27
  all these cars got my attention.
• 20:29
  I mean, the Viper, we joke about it every month.
• 20:31
  And then I'd say right behind the 370Z was that there were 51 total sales of the Fiat
• 20:35
  500 last year and they stopped producing that car like a couple years ago as well.
• 20:39
  And it's like, really, I guess the Fiat 500 maybe isn't a
• 20:42
  stretch because it wasn't that popular unless you lived there.
• 20:46
  Buy yourself with three cats and didn't drive anywhere.
• 20:49
  Well, I was going to say the Vipers, the only one on this list that actually
• 20:52
  makes sense to me because it's such a low volume vehicle, it's such a niche
• 20:56
  market that of course, there's going to be some that are hanging around.
• 21:00
  I learned a super fun fact about the Viper, which we'll talk
• 21:02
  about more in the coming weeks.
• 21:04
  They only produced roughly 32, 000 Vipers in the entire run.
• 21:09
  Of the Viper line from generation one to generation five, that is less
• 21:13
  than the total number of Corvettes that are produced in a single year.
• 21:17
  To wrap all that up, if you are not interested in an EV, not sad that any
• 21:21
  of these cars are going away and you're not interested in buying a zombie car,
• 21:26
  Jalopnik put together an article, the top used cars that you should buy in
• 21:30
  this used car craze that's going on.
• 21:32
  And they just happened to be, let's see, we've got the PT Cruiser, the economical
• 21:36
  family hauler, one of my personal Favorites, the PT cruiser, we've got
• 21:42
  the lap of luxury car is the, uh, the PT cruiser, which is a little bit nicer.
• 21:47
  It's got the chromed out wheels and the pristine metallic paint and the plastic
• 21:53
  bumper covers for the raucous hot hatch.
• 21:56
  We've got a competitor to the H H R S S the PT cruiser SRT four, which is
• 22:02
  basically a Dodge neon SRT for, Oh, excuse me, a Dodge SRT four is not a
• 22:07
  neon, even though it looks like a neon and talks like a neon and it's a neon.
• 22:11
  I didn't even know there was a PT cruiser GT.
• 22:16
  What?
• 22:16
  Oh, yes, yes.
• 22:18
  It's five different models of the PT cruiser.
• 22:20
  It's amazing.
• 22:22
  But if you're looking for something low mileage and a collector piece,
• 22:26
  you can look at the PT cruiser.
• 22:30
  And finally, if you want some of that summer vibes, drop top
• 22:33
  action, what should we get Brad?
• 22:35
  Well, you can opt for the Nissan Murano cross cabriolet, but if you can't find
• 22:41
  one of those, because they're so desirable and hard to get, you can get yourself.
• 22:46
  So I got to admit, you know, what's cool about the PT cruiser convertible
• 22:50
  that I just noticed now, well that it's, you know, like an SRT for neon.
• 22:55
  That isn't a neon.
• 22:56
  It's actually two door.
• 22:58
  I was just about to say it's two door.
• 22:59
  It's still stupid, but you know, Hey, whatever.
• 23:01
  I mean, well, it's the PT cruiser convertible.
• 23:06
  Turbo is only 4, 700.
• 23:09
  That's a value for money.
• 23:11
  All things considered, in a car market where cars are selling for three or four
• 23:17
  times their actual value that you can get a PT cruiser convertible for 4, 700.
• 23:23
  But look at those wheels.
• 23:24
  I mean, those are some sporty wheels.
• 23:26
  Talk about a hot take.
• 23:27
  The used car market is so crazy right now.
• 23:30
  A friend of mine actually told me the other day, he was like, do you think
• 23:32
  it makes sense to purchase your leased vehicle and then go resell it yourself?
• 23:38
  Like on cars.
• 23:38
  com or autotrader or something like that?
• 23:40
  Brad, as a money guy, do you think that's a viable option for somebody?
• 23:43
  It depends on your car.
• 23:45
  I mean, if you leased a PT Cruiser , then no, you don't wanna
• 23:50
  buy out your lease and resell it.
• 23:53
  But if you lease like a ca, like a B, like a BMW four series or something, like a BMW
• 23:58
  three series, 'cause those are lease cars all the time by the lower level executives
• 24:02
  and stuff like that, companies lease 'em out for their people to give company cars
• 24:06
  and then, yeah, it could be worth it.
• 24:08
  You'd obviously have to do the math on that, but it's gotta be a car that.
• 24:12
  I mean, check the prices of what cars are selling for and
• 24:15
  check what the least buyout is.
• 24:17
  And if one number is higher than the other, then yes, do it.
• 24:19
  If one number is lower than the other, then no, it's not a good idea.
• 24:22
  So you have to do a little bit of prospecting, right?
• 24:24
  You got to do your research.
• 24:25
  You can't just say, Oh, I got this car and I'm going to buy it out
• 24:29
  and then I'm going to flip it.
• 24:30
  It's not like flipping houses, although some people equate it to
• 24:33
  that, but to your point, you got to do the legwork and look into it.
• 24:35
  One other thought did cross my mind, especially when you talk about all these
• 24:38
  EVs and, you know, I mentioned, where's that sub 40, 000 vehicle for that entry
• 24:44
  level driver and not necessarily the teenage driver, but that newly minted
• 24:48
  professional got me thinking because I just recently watched the new show
• 24:53
  that just aired called American auto.
• 24:55
  One of the episodes was about this 10, 000 car.
• 24:58
  And what hit me was that they said.
• 25:00
  If you can't afford a 10, 000 used car, why would you want to
• 25:06
  buy a low cost brand new car?
• 25:09
  Like what are you getting for 10 grand?
• 25:10
  And it kind of got me thinking, maybe next month we take a look
• 25:13
  at some really top value cars and In that 10 to 20 grand range and
• 25:19
  pick those out for lost and found.
• 25:20
  What do you think, Brad?
• 25:21
  I think that's a great idea.
• 25:22
  I can tell you what I'm going to do right now.
• 25:24
  I'm going to come back with a whole slew of formerly a hundred thousand
• 25:28
  dollar luxury cars that you can get now for 9, 500 and it's going to be
• 25:32
  a terrible idea and nobody should ever take my advice when I do that.
• 25:35
  Yeah, because it cost you 100 grand to fix them, right?
• 25:37
  At the end of the day, 100, 000 car.
• 25:40
  You may buy it for 9, 500, but it's still 100, 000 car with 100, 000 car
• 25:45
  maintenance, or maybe we spin it off into a, what should I buy episode
• 25:49
  looking for the best bang for the buck?
• 25:51
  How about that?
• 25:52
  Actually, the best car to buy is a Volkswagen Phaeton.
• 25:55
  You'll thank me.
• 25:56
  Either a Phaeton or the V10 diesel Touareg.
• 25:59
  I hear those cars are as reliable as a Swiss watch.
• 26:05
  Well, that's a great transition into Volkswagen and Audi news.
• 26:09
  So what's hot or maybe I should say What's now considered not so hot.
• 26:14
  Apparently the new Lamborghini Countach is not so hot.
• 26:17
  According to Marcello Gandini.
• 26:20
  And who is this fabled Gandini?
• 26:22
  It's probably the first time people are hearing his name.
• 26:24
  He's the guy who designed the original one.
• 26:26
  What?
• 26:29
  And he's saying, nope, I do not approve.
• 26:32
  I put my name next to this one.
• 26:34
  We have mixed feelings about the new Kuntosh.
• 26:37
  It's either love it or hate it by a lot of people, but when the original
• 26:40
  designer of not just a Kuntosh, but the Diablo and the Miura comes back
• 26:45
  and says, uh, what does that say?
• 26:48
  What does that mean?
• 26:49
  Probably be an indication.
• 26:51
  That they shouldn't have made the back side view look like something
• 26:56
  from Michael Bay's Transformer movie.
• 26:58
  I just love the fact that, as it says in the article, the design icon makes an
• 27:05
  official statement distancing himself.
• 27:08
  From the limited production supercar like, wow, that is damn,
• 27:12
  I mean, that speaks volumes.
• 27:13
  Personally, I'm a huge fan of the new Lamborghini Countach, although
• 27:16
  it could have been a Lamborghini, whatever the hell it didn't have to be
• 27:19
  called the Countach, but I am sensing some sour grapes here that maybe Mr.
• 27:25
  Gandini hadn't been consulted.
• 27:28
  On the new car and he's throwing shade at Lamborghini or Volkswagen because they
• 27:35
  didn't reach out to him for his input when they were doing this retro version.
• 27:41
  That would be a very Italian thing to do.
• 27:45
  So, you know what, you might be right.
• 27:50
  So what else is going on in the Volkswagen out in Porsche world?
• 27:53
  Apparently, there's more Pikes Peak record breaking.
• 27:56
  Uh, you know, that's a bit of clickbait.
• 27:58
  So you want to know what that's all about?
• 28:00
  A gentleman drove to the top of Pikes Peak out in Colorado Springs
• 28:03
  and realized he only had 12 miles of battery range left in his Taycan.
• 28:08
  Decided, well, we're going to ride the brakes the whole way down or use
• 28:11
  the regen and see how far we can get.
• 28:13
  And actually, His test was pretty cool because it was twofold.
• 28:17
  And I think what was more impressive than anything else was that when they come down
• 28:21
  to about 11, 000 feet from the summit of Pikes Peak, there's actually a mandatory
• 28:25
  break check and the cops, you know, won't let you go and things like that.
• 28:29
  They seem, you know, numbers as high as like 900 degrees coming from breaks
• 28:33
  and to take him because it's using the region system instead of using the brakes.
• 28:36
  And it.
• 28:37
  Plus it has those big PCCB ceramic, you know, ridiculous Porsche racing brakes.
• 28:41
  Anyway, it was like 67 degrees on the rotor.
• 28:44
  It was like ambient air temperature.
• 28:46
  And he said, by the time he was done with it, all reached the bottom.
• 28:49
  He had like region, something like 45 miles of range.
• 28:53
  And then he goes, They went from having 12 miles of range left to
• 28:56
  get back to the top or wherever to when they got down to the Colorado
• 29:00
  Springs, they had over a hundred miles.
• 29:02
  Yeah, I was going to say it was in two phases the way he wrote.
• 29:05
  He's like, we had X amount when we reached the bottom of Pikes Peak and because
• 29:08
  it continues to go down into the city, then they regen even more and they had
• 29:13
  about a hundred miles of range left.
• 29:14
  So yeah, you're absolutely right.
• 29:15
  So, I mean, I think, you know, yeah, it's a little bit misleading at first,
• 29:19
  what, which records were broken.
• 29:20
  It was a record for the brake temperature, basically, and then maybe even the brake
• 29:25
  regeneration, since that's obviously new and specific to electrical vehicles,
• 29:29
  but that's pretty cool in terms of the capability of the brake regen.
• 29:33
  Yeah.
• 29:34
  Your everyday user is not going to see that because we don't, we don't commute
• 29:38
  from the top of Pike's Peak down.
• 29:40
  Yeah, exactly.
• 29:41
  And the other thing too, is if those brakes are anything like the ones on
• 29:46
  the Cayman GT4, I've heard from owners that, you know, we'll convert to steel
• 29:51
  rotors because, you know, for track use and stuff like that, because those
• 29:54
  PCCB rotors are almost 1, 500 a piece.
• 29:58
  I mean, can you imagine, I mean, I wouldn't want to wear out a set of those
• 30:00
  rotors coming down off of Pike's Peak.
• 30:03
  on a regular basis.
• 30:04
  That would be insane.
• 30:05
  You know, Pike's Peak is famous for rally and little known fact, Porsche
• 30:09
  entered cars like the 911 SC, the 959 Group B, and then there was an
• 30:15
  alternative to that known as the 953 that they campaigned back in the 80s,
• 30:19
  and they've been hinting for years.
• 30:21
  And now they're saying that in 2022, Porsche may release a limited production
• 30:26
  package known as the Safari 911.
• 30:28
  I'm just thinking about why anybody cares, right?
• 30:32
  What's the point of this?
• 30:34
  I don't know.
• 30:34
  Because if you look into the specs, it's a 911.
• 30:37
  That's lifted.
• 30:38
  It loses a bunch of the features of the 911's typical suspension.
• 30:42
  Nothing else has really changed the car.
• 30:44
  They did widen the hips a little bit to put bigger tires
• 30:47
  underneath of it, but it's ascent and descent angles are garbage.
• 30:51
  You would never use this off road.
• 30:53
  So the folks that are buying it or driving where with it again, they're driving
• 30:56
  to their temperature controlled storage unit to flip the car in about 10 years.
• 31:02
  Yeah, I just feel like Dr.
• 31:03
  Ferdman Porsche is like rolling over in his grave hearing about this.
• 31:07
  I'm like, good God, this is terrible.
• 31:08
  Yeah, this, this is purely a collector car.
• 31:11
  Nobody's actually going to buy this to drive.
• 31:13
  And it looks awful.
• 31:15
  I mean, it just looks like a 911.
• 31:16
  It looks like a lifted 911.
• 31:18
  Yeah, it looks terrible.
• 31:19
  Not a fan.
• 31:20
  But there's some news coming out of Bugatti.
• 31:22
  You know, Volkswagen's crown jewel as they present themselves is
• 31:26
  now being run by a 33 year old.
• 31:28
  But not just.
• 31:29
  any 33 year old.
• 31:31
  It's the head of RIMAC.
• 31:32
  And I actually learned something really important about this article because there
• 31:36
  wasn't any content in it that was of any value other than learning how to properly
• 31:40
  pronounce his first and last name.
• 31:44
  When you read it in English, it reads mate RIMAC.
• 31:47
  Like we're pretty used to pronouncing RIMAC, but apparently the formerly
• 31:51
  Yugoslavian born now You know, Bosnia, Herzegovina, Croatia, you know, it's like
• 31:56
  change names like 10 times it's pronounced Matti and the last name is remats remats.
• 32:04
  I mean, it's not remosh and all these other rimac and all these variants we're
• 32:08
  talking about, but you know what, I'm just going to continue saying remac because
• 32:11
  it's easier and I'll fumble over it a lot less often, but one other piece of.
• 32:15
  Golden nugget inside that article that I pulled was a quote where he
• 32:19
  talked about how he got started.
• 32:21
  And I thought he was quite ballsy walking up to Koenigsegg and
• 32:26
  saying, Hey, I want to design a TV.
• 32:28
  What do I need to do?
• 32:29
  Like, damn, dude, that's pretty cool.
• 32:31
  So he's seen as this like prodigy, right?
• 32:33
  He's seen as Kind of like Ferdinand Porsche reborn type of deal.
• 32:37
  And so this marriage, you know, between Rimac and Bugatti, and obviously
• 32:40
  with VAG behind the scenes with, you know, 45 percent of the controlling
• 32:44
  stock is, is awesome for them putting a lot of money into the companies.
• 32:47
  And there's two companies, there's Rimac automotive and there's
• 32:50
  the Rimac technology branch and all this kind of thing.
• 32:52
  But one thing I thought was interesting personality wise, he tends to run
• 32:55
  very hot and cold on a lot of things.
• 32:57
  And he's very upfront about the things that he talks about, but.
• 33:00
  I like that he realized kind of up front and it took a stab at companies
• 33:05
  that we've talked about on previous months of the show, where he says
• 33:08
  that he quickly realized putting electric motors into old cars wasn't
• 33:13
  a viable business plan long term.
• 33:16
  So he decided instead that he would engineer his own high
• 33:19
  performance electric cars.
• 33:20
  From the word go.
• 33:22
  And I'm like, we've talked about this a bunch of times, you know, taking
• 33:25
  an old Aston Martin, like DP six and retrofitting an EV, you're doing a
• 33:30
  disservice to the collector car market.
• 33:31
  You know, some people would call them an abomination or whatever,
• 33:34
  but I just, yeah, I agree with him.
• 33:36
  I don't think it's a viable business solution long term.
• 33:39
  Good for him.
• 33:41
  I'm glad.
• 33:41
  I like to see this.
• 33:42
  I think it's cool.
• 33:43
  Yeah.
• 33:43
  I'm excited to see where Bugatti goes.
• 33:45
  And one of his other quotes was Bugatti has been around for 112
• 33:49
  years and he's here to usher Bugatti for the next 112 years.
• 33:52
  I mean, that would make him a total of 145 years old if he makes it that
• 33:56
  far, but Hey, you know, you never, it could happen as long as it doesn't SUV.
• 34:01
  I'm perfectly happy with it.
• 34:04
  Well, what's going on in the rest of lower Saxony, our
• 34:08
  friends over at Mercedes and BMW.
• 34:10
  There's things coming, right?
• 34:11
  We've got all the, the eye variants, BMW, we've got some Mercedes.
• 34:15
  So we're going to talk about later, I guess, the most interesting thing,
• 34:19
  maybe at the consumer electronics show a week or two ago, BMW debuted their
• 34:25
  technology for color changing paint.
• 34:29
  You have my attention.
• 34:30
  Oh my God.
• 34:33
  No way.
• 34:34
  What was that movie?
• 34:35
  What was that movie where the lady was sitting at her desk and like
• 34:38
  changing her fingernail colors?
• 34:40
  Like with like a pen, like she would tap her fingernails.
• 34:42
  You guys remember that?
• 34:43
  Yes, I do.
• 34:44
  I do not remember what movie it was.
• 34:46
  Some, it was some sci fi or some show or something, right?
• 34:49
  Yes, it was.
• 34:50
  It was.
• 34:50
  Yeah.
• 34:51
  But that's immediately where my mind went when I saw this.
• 34:54
  I was like, dude, this is going to be so cool.
• 34:57
  Yes.
• 34:57
  And no, right now it's limited to gray scale essentially.
• 35:01
  So you can shift between black, white, and gray.
• 35:04
  And the reason is it's actually using e reader.
• 35:07
  E Ink technology.
• 35:08
  So that's why it's a wrap.
• 35:11
  It's literally, yeah, some sort of wraps.
• 35:13
  It's basically Kindle screens all around the car.
• 35:17
  So you're able to manipulate those, but only in a gray scale, right?
• 35:20
  You can display your favorite book on the outside of your car as you're driving by.
• 35:25
  This is where the problem would lie in because if this technology expands and
• 35:31
  they're able to color or not color, right?
• 35:34
  And people now somehow.
• 35:35
  Gain the ability to put inappropriate pictures on the side of their car at
• 35:40
  will as their what's gonna happen.
• 35:43
  We don't need that as a society, you know, as much as I wish I had sometimes
• 35:48
  letters that I could make magically appear in my rear glass of the car
• 35:53
  to give them pointer, don't follow me so closely survivability, you know,
• 35:56
  we don't actually need that ability.
• 35:59
  It would cause much more problems than there's a positive flip side to this.
• 36:03
  If it works, it could be implemented on the sides of metro buses and things
• 36:08
  like that, where they could now do changing advertisements rather than
• 36:13
  those stationary things or those power consuming led panels, right?
• 36:17
  Because this stuff is so low power and whatnot.
• 36:21
  Again, I'm with you once that happens, you know, all of Vegas is going to turn into
• 36:25
  that and then it's going to get hacked and it's just going to be a free fall,
• 36:28
  especially during black hat and Defcon.
• 36:30
  Right.
• 36:31
  And, you know, the other space you could see an application for this is.
• 36:36
  Billboards camouflage and being able to instantly camo
• 36:41
  vehicles and things like that.
• 36:42
  But mainstream society, do we need this?
• 36:45
  No, no, we don't.
• 36:47
  So is this the verge of like stealth technology yet?
• 36:50
  Another like star Trek technology coming to life, right?
• 36:53
  Well, that's another thing we don't need to really people already can't drive
• 36:57
  and we're going to cloak a car into it.
• 37:00
  Like really they've been working on that before trying to use
• 37:04
  mirrors and TV screens and stuff.
• 37:06
  Yeah.
• 37:06
  I mean, there's definitely scientists out there that are
• 37:08
  working on the, I want three things.
• 37:12
  I want three things from this cloaking technology, a car that's called a defiant,
• 37:16
  and I want my GPS to sound like wharf.
• 37:18
  And then it will be perfect.
• 37:19
  Just be like deep space nine.
• 37:23
  All right.
• 37:24
  Let's move on from BMW to the world's fourth largest auto manufacturer.
• 37:29
  No longer part of the big three, Stellantis.
• 37:32
  So they put all these brands together and now they're fourth largest.
• 37:38
  I mean, when you go from these microcosms, I mean, you see, when, you
• 37:43
  know, we talked about months ago, I think Brad, you were still here, right?
• 37:46
  The party was over.
• 37:48
  The end is nigh the end of the muscle car.
• 37:50
  Dodge says time to go home, pack up your kids go.
• 37:53
  Well, that's not exactly true because as we know, there's zombie cars and
• 37:59
  Chrysler lots all over the place.
• 38:01
  So that means.
• 38:02
  By the math that they've projected here, the Chrysler Recharger will now officially
• 38:06
  be gone by 2024 with EVs arriving sometime in that time period to replace them.
• 38:11
  But as we discovered earlier, they'll be for sale six or eight
• 38:16
  years from now as well, right?
• 38:18
  So I know what Dodge is doing.
• 38:20
  So they're going to create a huge backlog or surplus.
• 38:24
  Of zombie cars, they can say, yeah, we stopped making those cars in 2024.
• 38:29
  Yeah.
• 38:29
  We're still padding our bottom line with these cars because we built hundreds
• 38:34
  of thousands of them in the last three years and they're still selling,
• 38:38
  but yeah, we stopped making them.
• 38:39
  They shouldn't count against our, our gas, I guess, uh, our miles.
• 38:44
  My MPG or whatever our regulations and the year 2049, you'll
• 38:48
  still be able to buy a Viper.
• 38:49
  You know, it's, it's, it's fine.
• 38:51
  So y'all are upset because, Oh no, they're not going to make their
• 38:54
  10, 000 billion horsepower gas guzzlers anymore, blah, blah, blah.
• 38:59
  But it's okay.
• 39:00
  Cause they're, they want to make EVs, which just means they're
• 39:02
  going to make some 9, 000.
• 39:03
  Gigawatt atrocity that is way more power than you need.
• 39:08
  So it's fine.
• 39:09
  I mean, Dodge is synonymous with idiocy and tire smoke.
• 39:12
  I mean, let's just, let's just boil it back.
• 39:14
  Right.
• 39:14
  So, I mean, yes, your point.
• 39:16
  Yeah.
• 39:16
  9 trillion gigawatts and it'll just blow the tires off of anything.
• 39:21
  Now.
• 39:22
  You know, maybe they'll call it the Hellcat, Thunder, Cougar, Falcon,
• 39:25
  Bird, Red Eye, Demon, Wide Body, Big Dick, Energy Special Edition.
• 39:28
  You know, that's what it's going to come out with later.
• 39:30
  But this whole Never Lift campaign that they're starting to do
• 39:34
  is their new marketing thing for the next couple of years.
• 39:36
  I just don't get it.
• 39:39
  It's like they're talking out of both sides of their mouth.
• 39:41
  You know, on one hand, if you go back in time and look at some of these
• 39:44
  articles from like Reuters, you know, they were allegedly fined like hundreds
• 39:49
  of millions of dollars in penalties, you know, for the cafe fines and
• 39:53
  things like that because of the Hellcat and other engines and this and that.
• 39:56
  And then here we are, you know, still doing all these ridiculous.
• 39:59
  Ads and they're talking about muscle cars and I'm like, this
• 40:03
  is such an oxymoron, folks.
• 40:06
  Hot take electric muscle car.
• 40:09
  The point of muscle car is big engine, little car, all that kind of stuff.
• 40:13
  We just need to take all that out of the vocabulary.
• 40:16
  Like we need to just put it to bed.
• 40:17
  What about the Porsche?
• 40:18
  Take in turbo electric, turbo, non turbo turbo car.
• 40:23
  The turbo rotambulator.
• 40:24
  Yeah.
• 40:26
  The turbo flux capacitor.
• 40:28
  Yeah, exactly.
• 40:28
  How do you have a turbo on an EV unless it's a hybrid turbo?
• 40:32
  What?
• 40:33
  Whatever.
• 40:34
  I think it's one of those things where they're trying to ingratiate people
• 40:36
  because people understand turbo means it's better than the regular one or, you
• 40:41
  know, Muscle means better than plastic.
• 40:44
  Because people are dumb.
• 40:46
  Yeah, exactly.
• 40:47
  It's all marketing bullshit.
• 40:48
  In that comes a little ray of light.
• 40:50
  Please tell me it's a new Dodge Dart.
• 40:52
  No, it's not.
• 40:54
  The Peugeot e Legend.
• 40:55
  Have you guys seen this thing?
• 40:57
  A while ago, right?
• 40:58
  Yeah, but now they're talking about actually making it.
• 41:00
  And I'm like, wow, it is a good looking car.
• 41:04
  The only, the only downside, it's a two door.
• 41:07
  It does look like it's based sort of on the Challenger, but I
• 41:11
  thought we were done with two door.
• 41:13
  I mean, I'd drive it.
• 41:14
  I would too.
• 41:15
  Now, some other news coming out of Stellantis.
• 41:18
  And I'm going to read this.
• 41:19
  The international automaker that owns brands like Jeep Chrysler, Fiat,
• 41:22
  Ram, and Peugeot have entered in a wide ranging agreement with Amazon.
• 41:27
  The deal will put Amazon software in Stellantis vehicles, and we'll
• 41:30
  also put Stellantis electric vans into Amazon's delivery fleet.
• 41:33
  I mean, you've already seen the blue Ram vans running around that
• 41:38
  Amazon bought, so whoopie do there.
• 41:40
  What I'm wondering though, is all Mopar products from this point
• 41:44
  forward are going to be Alexa.
• 41:46
  Alexa, turn on car.
• 41:49
  Alexa, send the coordinates that I just drove to my mistress's house to my wife.
• 41:56
  That's the wrong website.
• 41:58
  It's the wrong Alexa.
• 42:00
  Alexa, please report to my insurance agency that I just did 95 in a 60.
• 42:06
  And add a loaf of bread to my shopping list.
• 42:09
  So there's always renderings flying around.
• 42:12
  There's some pretty cool ones out there.
• 42:14
  A team put together a rendering of what the Dodge Superbird would look like
• 42:17
  based on a current Dodge Challenger.
• 42:20
  And I thought that was pretty neat.
• 42:21
  Although I don't think we're in an era anymore of the big nose
• 42:25
  and big tail of the Superbird.
• 42:26
  I mean, that's a cool throwback, but I couldn't see parking
• 42:29
  that at the local Walmart.
• 42:31
  Superbird is one of my favorite cars of all time.
• 42:33
  It's just so long.
• 42:35
  I mean, I guess it's like an F 150 or a Silverado, right?
• 42:38
  No, I think they're longer.
• 42:39
  Now, that Alfa Romeo Nivola that was floating around for a while, a video
• 42:45
  link that was out there on YouTube, we posted in our show notes, I think that's
• 42:48
  a really cool reimagined Combination of the four C and the eight C competizione.
• 42:55
  I think it's a cool looking car.
• 42:56
  There was a version of that that I actually posted out on Garage
• 43:00
  Riot recently where they took that same Nivola and redesigned it yet
• 43:04
  again, kind of put this, you know, Milan sad clown kind of face on it.
• 43:08
  I think it's a cool looking car.
• 43:11
  It's just, I don't think alpha is ever going to build it.
• 43:13
  This is that guy that does the Volkswagen renderings.
• 43:16
  Yeah.
• 43:16
  And he does a really cool job.
• 43:18
  So I like them.
• 43:19
  I like looking at these, you know, they're a lot of fun, but you know,
• 43:22
  don't get my hopes up like that.
• 43:23
  Don't tease me.
• 43:24
  The front end almost looks like the Maserati MC12 or whatever.
• 43:28
  Yeah, exactly.
• 43:28
  I think that's where he probably got his inspiration from.
• 43:31
  And the back is reminiscent of older alphas as well with the big round
• 43:34
  lights and all that kind of thing.
• 43:35
  I think it looks cool.
• 43:36
  I think it does.
• 43:37
  I can dig it.
• 43:38
  So what else is going on in the world of Stellantis there, Tanya?
• 43:40
  Sounds like they're still having an odor problem.
• 43:43
  Wait, what?
• 43:43
  In their cars?
• 43:45
  No, at their factory.
• 43:46
  You know, there's some weird stuff going on, explosions and smelly
• 43:50
  factories and things like that, that we link to in our show notes.
• 43:53
  But there's also this really weirdly I'd say almost stupidly
• 43:58
  named vehicle coming out called the ASNOM and it's based on a ram.
• 44:03
  I think they misspelled Amazon.
• 44:06
  Looks like a Bentley got smashed.
• 44:09
  It's pretty freaking.
• 44:11
  Terrible.
• 44:11
  This is the new Aztec.
• 44:14
  And hence the name, I suppose.
• 44:16
  I mean, the interior isn't terrible other than like that weird bubbling
• 44:20
  seat looks stupid, but the rest of it isn't even horrible on the
• 44:24
  inside, but the outside is awful.
• 44:26
  I mean, you have like wine glass holder in the back.
• 44:28
  It looks like how luxurious rich people doing rich people things.
• 44:32
  I mean, I'm going to because I figured one of you two were saying what kind of.
• 44:36
  As whole is going to buy this as non
• 44:42
  moving on.
• 44:43
  So it's time for us to move on to our traditional domestic news,
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• 45:05
  com so what's going on in the world of GM.
• 45:08
  Well, it looks like the automaker is going to be dethroned as the
• 45:12
  number one auto seller in the U.
• 45:14
  S.
• 45:15
  I don't know that that's necessarily, we'll see if it sticks.
• 45:18
  Toyota is beating them out to be the number one car seller, but
• 45:24
  given the chip shortages and all the supply chain issues we have
• 45:27
  had over the last year and whatnot.
• 45:30
  Maybe this is a short term thing and they'll regain control of their kingdom.
• 45:34
  I think it's a little too early to tell.
• 45:35
  I feel like those ratings are somewhat misleading or somehow
• 45:39
  inflated because when we looked at that world map at the end of last
• 45:43
  year, about the top manufacturers in the world, Toyota seemed to come
• 45:47
  out on top, regardless of all this.
• 45:49
  And I mean, if Chevy's still selling Impalas and whatnot, zombie
• 45:53
  cars, I mean, I just don't get it.
• 45:54
  Toyota is above them in global sales.
• 45:58
  Oh, so this is America's largest.
• 46:00
  It's just America.
• 46:01
  So global sales is Toyota versus Volkswagen.
• 46:03
  They passed GM like a long time ago, Toyota.
• 46:06
  This is just American sales.
• 46:07
  So GM is number one or was number one and is about to be passed by Toyota.
• 46:13
  But a lot of those numbers, 30 plus percent down sales, I think Toyota, but.
• 46:18
  GM had 40 plus percent down sales, right?
• 46:21
  And a lot of that's all driven by the car shortages and this, that, and the other.
• 46:23
  So does it stick or not?
• 46:26
  I think remains to be seen over the next year or two.
• 46:28
  Right.
• 46:29
  So I'm going to ask this.
• 46:30
  What about the F 150?
• 46:31
  I thought that was like the best selling vehicle of all time in
• 46:34
  the galaxy, in the Milky way.
• 46:35
  But that's the only thing from Ford.
• 46:38
  Oh, okay.
• 46:40
  That makes sense.
• 46:40
  Do they sell anything else?
• 46:42
  I don't think the F 150 sells very well overseas either.
• 46:45
  Right.
• 46:46
  But this is, this is North America, right?
• 46:48
  Just American sales.
• 46:50
  They're all in Texas.
• 46:53
  Big state.
• 46:53
  It's a big state.
• 46:54
  It is a big state.
• 46:55
  To continue that thread on GM, it makes sense in a way, if Toyota's
• 46:59
  surpassing them because they're wasting time on things like A 10.
• 47:04
  4 liter V8 as a direct response to the Dodge elephant crate engine.
• 47:10
  No, I've got to say here, anytime you're building a thousand horsepower
• 47:14
  motor, it's not a waste of time.
• 47:16
  I don't care who you are.
• 47:17
  What do you need?
• 47:18
  If, okay.
• 47:18
  Okay.
• 47:19
  A hundred horsepower per liter.
• 47:20
  Is that really that good?
• 47:22
  Shouldn't that thing be making like 10, 000 horsepower at 10 liters?
• 47:25
  I mean, I don't understand.
• 47:26
  There was a BMW.
• 47:27
  It would, but then it would blow up every 5, 000 miles.
• 47:30
  Well, you know, that's, that's true.
• 47:32
  I just, I don't understand why they would waste the time.
• 47:35
  Again, we've talked about this before.
• 47:37
  I feel as though despite the list that we reviewed earlier in the
• 47:40
  episode, Chevy's like late to the party on this whole EV thing, even
• 47:45
  worse is The irony that Dodge is like, all right, we're done parties over.
• 47:49
  And you know, there's always that one guy in the back going, well, my
• 47:52
  glass ain't empty yet, so I'm gonna hang out till I'm done drinking.
• 47:55
  That's what I feel.
• 47:56
  Chevy's doing right now with this 10 liter V8.
• 47:59
  I just, I don't understand.
• 48:00
  I mean, because nobody's buying their cars.
• 48:03
  So they've got to sell motors instead.
• 48:04
  Drag racing is still a thing.
• 48:06
  People still drag race and street race and everything.
• 48:08
  And they're putting these motors in, you know, after they blow up their
• 48:11
  Camaro SS motor, they're going to go and replace it with one of these.
• 48:15
  I suppose so.
• 48:16
  Make it completely undrivable.
• 48:17
  Not everybody wants to put a 1.
• 48:19
  8 T in everything, Eric.
• 48:20
  I think that's very true.
• 48:21
  You know, I want to make big power out of a small displacement.
• 48:24
  It's like the genie from Aladdin.
• 48:27
  But speaking of other things, GM, what do we think?
• 48:30
  You know, the new Z06 came out during the winter.
• 48:32
  What do we think?
• 48:33
  The C8 I think is cool.
• 48:35
  The Z06 is just a more cool version of it.
• 48:38
  Could you tell me the difference between the two?
• 48:40
  Nope.
• 48:41
  Uh, the big wang.
• 48:42
  Oh, is that, oh, okay, cool.
• 48:44
  I got it.
• 48:44
  This is a Z06 wing.
• 48:46
  Got aerodynamic stuff.
• 48:47
  It's got more power.
• 48:49
  I don't know.
• 48:50
  We're going to dig into that a little bit more, but you know, as much as there was
• 48:53
  so much hype and, Oh, they released it early and they didn't do that on purpose.
• 48:59
  I feel like it fell on deaf ears.
• 49:01
  It was like the same thing as when Volkswagen announced the
• 49:03
  new Golf R during the reelection.
• 49:06
  And it was just like, yeah, nobody cares, dude.
• 49:07
  It's like yet another Golf R, you know, yet another Z06
• 49:11
  show us something different.
• 49:12
  Granted the new C8 is different enough being a mid engine Corvette.
• 49:16
  What I want to see though.
• 49:17
  Does the IMSA Corvette get an upgrade because of the advancements
• 49:21
  they've made with the Z06?
• 49:23
  How does that change the race cars in the future?
• 49:25
  I, I think that goes the other way.
• 49:27
  I think they did the development on the IMSA car and it's
• 49:31
  trickling down to the Z06.
• 49:33
  You know, that might make more sense.
• 49:34
  You're right.
• 49:35
  Speaking of things that were developed and trickling down to cars.
• 49:39
  Did you hear about Ford?
• 49:40
  They developed a retractable exhaust tips.
• 49:43
  I have one question.
• 49:44
  Why?
• 49:44
  Yep.
• 49:45
  That'd be it.
• 49:46
  I mean, and the answer someone would probably give you is why not?
• 49:48
  In the era of the Ford Lightning and EVs, why are we dealing with,
• 49:53
  you know, retracting exhaust tips?
• 49:55
  What would it do?
• 49:56
  It's for off road mode.
• 49:58
  They're probably going to put this on like the new Raptor or something to give
• 50:01
  it more approach angle or, Whatever the rear angle is, you retract the exhaust.
• 50:06
  So it's not like directly under the bumper or whatever.
• 50:08
  And if you slam the tail down on a rock or something like that, because jeep guys
• 50:13
  do that shit all the time, then you're not going to like destroy your exhaust.
• 50:17
  All right.
• 50:18
  But they're coming out with the new Bronco DR.
• 50:21
  Which is the V8 powered Baja monster that apparently you can
• 50:25
  buy based on the Ford Bronco.
• 50:27
  Yeah, so this is probably going to be a feature on that.
• 50:31
  And it's, it's, it's for, I mean, it says in the article, it's for off roading
• 50:34
  to help give you better clearance.
• 50:36
  Why not just make a shorter exhaust or with side exit or something else?
• 50:40
  Because then maybe a permanent shorter exhaust might not qualify or
• 50:45
  again, pass government regulations.
• 50:47
  And so all the aftermarket guys are going to do what with their stock exhaust?
• 50:51
  Throw it away.
• 50:52
  Okay, just wanted to make sure.
• 50:54
  When they put their Chevy crate motor, you know, to keep,
• 50:57
  that's how you make a fast Ford.
• 50:58
  You put a Chevy motor in it.
• 51:00
  Uh, if you listen to Bobby Parks, one of our former guests, we
• 51:04
  talked about the Chevy crate motor.
• 51:06
  Did you guys hear about the new Ford crate motor?
• 51:08
  That's coming out?
• 51:08
  Oh, no.
• 51:09
  Oh, it's called a new term new.
• 51:12
  Uh, what is it?
• 51:12
  Terminator?
• 51:13
  No, they call it the illuminator.
• 51:16
  It is an EV crate motor that people can buy to retrofit into
• 51:21
  whatever vehicle they like.
• 51:22
  So see, that's a step in the right direction.
• 51:24
  10.
• 51:25
  4 liters.
• 51:25
  Of whatever that cast iron thing is, or this, which would you buy 10.
• 51:30
  4 liters?
• 51:32
  I already knew that.
• 51:36
  Depends on how expensive this is and how compact it is.
• 51:38
  Cause if you can put one of these at each wheel, then you got something.
• 51:41
  Yeah, that's, that's true.
• 51:42
  That's be hotness.
• 51:43
  You know, Stellantis isn't the only one that's got fans doing renderings
• 51:48
  and things like that of vehicles and coming up with really cool concepts.
• 51:52
  And I tell you what I.
• 51:54
  And really in love with this Ford Ranger that was modded with a Mustang face.
• 52:00
  What do you guys think?
• 52:01
  I think this looks slick.
• 52:02
  I can dig it.
• 52:03
  You got to get rid of the Mustang logo or the Mustang icon.
• 52:07
  That's the Mach T.
• 52:08
  You didn't know that?
• 52:09
  That's the Mustang Mach T.
• 52:10
  It's the pickup truck.
• 52:11
  The Mach trash.
• 52:14
  I think it looks cool with the Shelby stripes.
• 52:16
  It looks super aggressive.
• 52:17
  I mean, how they did that running the flares.
• 52:19
  I just like all of that.
• 52:20
  The big wheels.
• 52:21
  I mean.
• 52:22
  Yeah, that's pretty cool.
• 52:23
  I can, I can dig it.
• 52:24
  I like it.
• 52:24
  I don't hate it.
• 52:25
  Wait, wait, you don't hate it?
• 52:27
  You pick up truck you don't hate?
• 52:29
  Tanya, think of all the mulch.
• 52:31
  Gosh, wow.
• 52:33
  So then if you don't hate that, what do you think of the 70s
• 52:36
  retro inspired vintage pickup electric that they came out with?
• 52:41
  I don't hate that because I don't hate the concept of taking the old cars and
• 52:47
  making them new again and electrified.
• 52:49
  I don't necessarily love it because I don't think it's a particularly
• 52:53
  good looking pickup truck to have done this with, but they have.
• 52:58
  I also don't think that's ever going to happen other than the one they've
• 53:01
  built because there's no way it would pass any safety regulations because I
• 53:06
  mean, it is essentially the original, but with an electric motor inside.
• 53:10
  And so there is thin ass door cards and, and the roof liner and all that.
• 53:15
  And I was just thinking from a safety aspect, how could you
• 53:18
  actually mass produce this?
• 53:19
  The thing would become huge because there's no room for the.
• 53:23
  1800 airbags that we need in the cabin.
• 53:25
  Yeah, no, you're a hundred percent right.
• 53:26
  You know, this is right along the lines of what Hyundai did with
• 53:29
  the pony when they kind of brought it up to speed and did the EV.
• 53:32
  I think everybody's doing these heritage pieces.
• 53:35
  You're even starting to see some things like that now from Audi with
• 53:39
  Ken Block where they're, you know, You know, taking all the Audi Quattros
• 53:41
  and doing some stuff like that.
• 53:43
  I think it's cool.
• 53:44
  I think you're right.
• 53:44
  If this had been the Ford, the F 100 that was in like the expendables, Stallone's
• 53:49
  pickup, that would have been super cool.
• 53:51
  This is just some boring blocky, like whatever I hate to say.
• 53:55
  It's like Ford square body.
• 53:57
  It's like, whatever man, man, man doesn't like it anyway.
• 53:59
  So it's all good.
• 54:00
  It's a Ford.
• 54:01
  Oh, they didn't do it themselves.
• 54:02
  Any favor with like the kind of blandish color.
• 54:06
  Those wheels.
• 54:07
  Oh my God.
• 54:08
  I know those are the original hubcaps, but there's more news
• 54:11
  about Ford in this past winter.
• 54:12
  What's going on?
• 54:13
  They finally released the new F 150 lightning price.
• 54:17
  So if you're looking to order one of those, what's it going to cost?
• 54:21
  What's it going to cost?
• 54:22
  Well, they got four variations.
• 54:24
  They've got the pro that comes in starting at 39, 9, 7, 4.
• 54:29
  So you were asking for that sub 40,000 ev.
• 54:32
  Here you go.
• 54:33
  You've got the pro model at 39, 9 7 4, which you're forgetting
• 54:38
  about the 9 75 destination charge.
• 54:42
  Oh, and you want floor mats and you want a bedliner and
• 54:45
  you want wheels and headlights.
• 54:48
  Yeah.
• 54:48
  Yeah.
• 54:48
  I mean, actually the.
• 54:49
  1, 695 destination charge that they listed in the article as well.
• 54:55
  But it is eligible for a 7, 500 federal tax credit.
• 55:00
  So booyah still sub 40, 000 now.
• 55:03
  Wait, so it's the pro the base after the dealer markup.
• 55:07
  So, all right, so we got the pro and then we've got the XLT at 52, 9, 7, 4.
• 55:13
  That's a huge jump.
• 55:14
  Well, you've jumped from 230 mile range to.
• 55:18
  230 mile range
• 55:22
  in the XLT SR version or 300 mile range with the XLT ER.
• 55:28
  Is that 80, 000 for that?
• 55:30
  No, no, no.
• 55:31
  This is all, well, you know what?
• 55:33
  They don't differentiate the, those SR and ER.
• 55:36
  Price differences.
• 55:37
  So I don't know.
• 55:38
  Uh, my guess is the, the XR.
• 55:40
  That's the, the lower range.
• 55:42
  That's the 52, nine 74 plus 1, 600.
• 55:46
  And then the other one, the ER is probably 60, which bridges the gap to
• 55:50
  the next version, which is the Lariat.
• 55:52
  And how much is that one?
• 55:53
  67, four, seven, four.
• 55:56
  But now we've gone to 230 miles of range or 300 miles of range, but you get
• 56:03
  your leather seats and your navigation.
• 56:06
  If you're feeling real bullish, you can get the platinum 100 grand, right?
• 56:12
  No boys.
• 56:13
  Lower 90, 000, seven, four, and you will get 280 miles of range and
• 56:20
  you will get a 10 year car note.
• 56:23
  Speaking of a hundred thousand dollar vehicles, right?
• 56:25
  We were out in Ohio recently And walking through the parking lot of a
• 56:29
  Meijer, we spotted a brand new Grand Wagoneer driving my old, you know,
• 56:34
  what would be considered old school by now, you know, WK2 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
• 56:38
  And I told my wife, I said, Hey, look, it's the new Grand Wagoneer.
• 56:41
  And she stopped dead in the parking lot.
• 56:43
  And she looked at it and she goes, and she just didn't say anything.
• 56:46
  And I said, what are you thinking?
• 56:48
  She goes, It doesn't say anything.
• 56:50
  And I said, you know, that's 100, 000 plus dollars.
• 56:52
  Right.
• 56:53
  And she's like, why?
• 56:55
  And then just turned and walked away.
• 56:57
  Like, she didn't understand it.
• 56:58
  And I'm like, that's the 1st time I've ever seen her have
• 57:01
  that reaction to like a car.
• 57:02
  Normally it's just guy.
• 57:03
  It's ugly.
• 57:03
  It's this.
• 57:04
  I don't like it.
• 57:04
  I don't like, you know, the cut of the back or whatever it might be, but she just
• 57:07
  stood there and like, didn't say anything.
• 57:08
  She goes.
• 57:09
  Why, but I will say it is bigger than I thought it would be.
• 57:13
  I mean, I know that the new Grand Cherokee is big, and I've seen those on the road,
• 57:17
  but the Wagoner, for some reason, looks time and a half wider just because of the
• 57:22
  way that nose is and the cut of the back.
• 57:25
  And it's just, it's big, real big.
• 57:27
  I have to say the the new, I've seen the Grand Cherokees.
• 57:30
  I think they look terrible.
• 57:31
  They look so misproportioned.
• 57:33
  It's that reverse angular nose, like an old BMW that it just doesn't look like.
• 57:38
  It looks like Cro Magnon.
• 57:40
  It's just very strange.
• 57:41
  Yeah, it's very strange that they're not good looking at all.
• 57:43
  I'm your model was definitely the last good looking grand Cherokee.
• 57:47
  I mean, and take that and multiply it out on that grand wagon here.
• 57:51
  Cause I mean, granted, they're all basically the same
• 57:52
  underneath, but I was just like.
• 57:54
  Dang, it's more grand.
• 57:55
  Well, and the other thing too was with that whole front with all
• 57:58
  those LEDs, like we talked about stuff because we saw it at night.
• 58:00
  She's like, is that an EV?
• 58:02
  And I said, no.
• 58:02
  And she's like a hundred grand for what?
• 58:04
  And I'm like, it's a Jeep.
• 58:06
  I don't, I don't know what to tell you, but you know, who just announced yet
• 58:09
  another EV, a brand nobody cares about because they're not on top anymore.
• 58:13
  GM.
• 58:15
  Yep.
• 58:15
  They announced the new electric Silverado again, late to the party, right?
• 58:20
  How long have we been talking about the lightning and talking
• 58:23
  about all this other kind of stuff?
• 58:24
  GM comes to the party and says, Oh, we're going to have an
• 58:26
  electric Silverado in two years.
• 58:29
  2024.
• 58:30
  Great.
• 58:30
  Awesome.
• 58:31
  Hopefully it's not as bad as that hybrid suburban that came
• 58:34
  out with like 10 years ago.
• 58:35
  I was going to say it does come with a destination charge of 1695 too.
• 58:41
  But they swear that any resemblance to the avalanche is purely coincidental.
• 58:46
  You noticed that, right?
• 58:47
  Yeah.
• 58:48
  Even though it has the folding mid gate tail, like the avalanche head,
• 58:53
  that's the only, you know, that yes, is like the avalanche, but
• 58:56
  otherwise It's not the Avalanche.
• 58:58
  It's a coincidence.
• 58:59
  There was one last bit of domestic news that I wanted to cover
• 59:03
  because it was super clickbaity.
• 59:05
  I think it is the most clickbaity thing we have ever had on this show.
• 59:09
  And oh, by the way, folks, if I have a moment to point it out, we have
• 59:12
  covered well over, I believe the number was 550 articles on this show.
• 59:18
  So as we plow through these.
• 59:20
  This one came across my desk and it reads Ford beats Tesla for best
• 59:24
  growth performing auto stock in 2021.
• 59:27
  And I said, wait, what?
• 59:29
  So according to the article, you know, Ford stock grew 140%, this
• 59:33
  and that and the other thing.
• 59:34
  And I wanted to compare the stock prices.
• 59:36
  6 to, I mean, yeah, the big, the big three has always been the same.
• 59:41
  It's like, it's a 20 stock.
• 59:43
  It hasn't really budged.
• 59:45
  Stellantis stock has changed significantly from when it was Chrysler to FCA and
• 59:49
  so on down the line there, they're actually doing really, really well.
• 59:52
  But to say that your stock is doing better than Tesla, who's sitting at like 1, 100
• 59:57
  a share, and you're coming in at 25 and 16 cents, yeah, good try, you know, MSNBC.
• 1:00:04
  Whatever.
• 1:00:05
  I get it.
• 1:00:06
  If you play with the numbers, we made a dollar more.
• 1:00:09
  So it's like 150%.
• 1:00:11
  In reality, Tesla stock is the highest grossing automotive stock on
• 1:00:16
  the planet at a four digit number.
• 1:00:19
  I mean, nobody's in that range.
• 1:00:20
  I mean, granted Audi and Porsche, you know, they're in
• 1:00:22
  the multiple hundreds of dollars.
• 1:00:24
  Per stock, but, you know, traded on the NASDAQ Tesla's where it's at.
• 1:00:29
  I guess we got to wrap out that domestic news with some domestic adjacent news
• 1:00:33
  by talking about JDM news and Toyota's got some cool stuff they unveiled or
• 1:00:39
  revealed the taco Zilla and no folks.
• 1:00:42
  It is not a giant burrito or taco that you would get at your stand down the street.
• 1:00:49
  I was thinking it was like the Oscar Meyer wiener van.
• 1:00:51
  When I read.
• 1:00:52
  I read the article title, you know, they could sell these as food trucks and to
• 1:00:59
  taquerias, the owners should buy these and sell food out of their taco Zilla.
• 1:01:05
  And they, I think it's cool.
• 1:01:07
  It's a, an off road version of the Tacoma with a camper on the back.
• 1:01:11
  It's not earth shattering or groundbreaking by anything like that.
• 1:01:15
  Biggest pays homage to the Toyota Chinook from 1976, the
• 1:01:19
  versatile convertible wagon.
• 1:01:21
  Oddly enough, I was out in Phoenix not too long ago.
• 1:01:24
  And I actually, I drove from the mid 400 to Phoenix as a matter of fact, and I saw
• 1:01:29
  one of those old school Toyota campers.
• 1:01:32
  Out on the highway because out there they don't rust and it never snows.
• 1:01:36
  And I was just like, I was kind of chuckling to myself going, man,
• 1:01:39
  that old Toyota still running, you know, it's like a Camry engine.
• 1:01:42
  It's the old taco, you know, like I said, I think this is cool as a throwback.
• 1:01:46
  I just don't know who's going to buy one.
• 1:01:48
  I mean, the van life market's pretty.
• 1:01:50
  Small, but the people in that, you know, subculture are pretty serious.
• 1:01:55
  So there are people that do this themselves to big, like
• 1:01:59
  Ford F 350s and stuff like that, which is a terrible vehicle.
• 1:02:03
  If they actually take it off roading, cause it's way too big to fit in those
• 1:02:06
  little tight places on the wilderness.
• 1:02:08
  This is more believable.
• 1:02:10
  As one of those overlanding type as a motor home slash off roader.
• 1:02:14
  Yeah.
• 1:02:15
  But my question is, you know, with COVID being where it is right now, right.
• 1:02:19
  It keeps kind of bouncing up and down.
• 1:02:21
  Has the van life RV market plateaued or is it still on the
• 1:02:25
  rise like it was, let's say in 2020.
• 1:02:27
  I had a friend that was looking for a van before COVID and he could not find one.
• 1:02:33
  So he waited and then after COVID, he started looking again and
• 1:02:36
  prices were double what they were.
• 1:02:38
  When he was originally looking, actually one of our members, Andrew,
• 1:02:42
  he just bought a van, he bought a transit to transport his ailing mother.
• 1:02:46
  It took him forever to find a van.
• 1:02:49
  He couldn't get anything he wanted.
• 1:02:50
  He couldn't, he got a transit.
• 1:02:51
  He couldn't get EcoBoost.
• 1:02:52
  He couldn't get all wheel drive because they just didn't have them anywhere.
• 1:02:56
  The vans that he would call the dealerships about, he would schedule
• 1:02:59
  an appointment to go look at it.
• 1:03:01
  And then it would be gone before he even gets a chance to get there.
• 1:03:04
  Essentially bought the first one that he could actually set his hands on.
• 1:03:07
  Wow.
• 1:03:08
  So the market is just terrible.
• 1:03:10
  It's terrible.
• 1:03:10
  If you're looking to buy anything, I keep saying this, there's
• 1:03:13
  tons of used cars to go around.
• 1:03:15
  So there are a million PT cruisers out there to choose from and
• 1:03:18
  they fit all kinds of lifestyles.
• 1:03:21
  Andrew Banks next car should be a PT Cruiser.
• 1:03:24
  Not a Neon.
• 1:03:25
  He needs a PT Cruiser painted like his Viper sitting next to it in the garage.
• 1:03:29
  Convertible, you know, so he can let that fro blow in the wind.
• 1:03:36
  We'll talk more about Andrew in the coming weeks for sure.
• 1:03:39
  We have some news for our friends on two wheels.
• 1:03:42
  Oh my God, two wheel news, Crichton CR700W motorcycle brings the
• 1:03:47
  rotary engine back into production.
• 1:03:50
  Why?
• 1:03:52
  I hate, I know there's diehard rotary people out there, but I'm with you.
• 1:03:57
  I keep saying it, if the Germans thought it was a good idea,
• 1:04:00
  they would have kept with it.
• 1:04:01
  They don't abandon things.
• 1:04:03
  I mean, just look at the 9 11.
• 1:04:04
  They think it's a good idea.
• 1:04:05
  And they keep going at it with that motor hanging over the butt.
• 1:04:08
  This is right up there with that jet turbine motorcycle.
• 1:04:13
  As far as just bad ideas.
• 1:04:15
  I mean, the Viper motorcycle was a bad idea too, but that's hella cool.
• 1:04:19
  I mean, you got a V10 between your legs.
• 1:04:20
  It's kind of neat.
• 1:04:22
  That's what she said.
• 1:04:25
  But on the other end of that pendulum swing, Bugatti is revealing a motorcycle?
• 1:04:30
  Well, Bugatti's revealing an electric two wheel apparatus.
• 1:04:35
  What do you mean apparatus?
• 1:04:36
  What is it, a medical device?
• 1:04:40
  Mode of transportation.
• 1:04:41
  It doesn't look like that Mercedes we talked about.
• 1:04:44
  No.
• 1:04:45
  So this is actually scooter, not like a moped scooter.
• 1:04:50
  Think razor scooter.
• 1:04:53
  But before you make that face, this is the best looking razor scooter.
• 1:04:58
  Ever.
• 1:04:59
  I give them props for a hot little razor scooter.
• 1:05:02
  Like this thing is sick looking, but it's just the fricking scooter.
• 1:05:06
  But it does have a sport mode.
• 1:05:08
  You unlock it with the key.
• 1:05:09
  No, just kidding.
• 1:05:10
  But it does have a sport mode.
• 1:05:12
  And how much does it cost?
• 1:05:14
  Yeah, that's the bigger question.
• 1:05:16
  It costs so much that they had to leave the price out.
• 1:05:19
  Oh, typical, typical.
• 1:05:21
  First of all, is this actually now the baby one?
• 1:05:25
  Because it's the electric, you know, for children.
• 1:05:28
  But two, I thought the coolest thing about this is that LED that
• 1:05:32
  puts the Ettore Bugatti logo on the ground, like that rear light.
• 1:05:38
  I think that's the coolest.
• 1:05:39
  It's got ground effects.
• 1:05:40
  Yo, Razor Scooter didn't have ground effects.
• 1:05:43
  It is pretty slick.
• 1:05:44
  Would I pay the 97, 000 that this probably costs?
• 1:05:50
  I can't write it.
• 1:05:51
  I don't fit.
• 1:05:54
  I love it.
• 1:05:54
  It's the answer to everything.
• 1:05:56
  I'm looking at the weight ratings right here and yeah, I don't.
• 1:05:59
  But the funny thing is it says it takes its styling cues from the Devo.
• 1:06:04
  Oh, stop.
• 1:06:06
  The band.
• 1:06:07
  No, the, Oh, you weren't here for that episode.
• 1:06:09
  We talked about this 40 run Bugatti.
• 1:06:12
  They only made 40 of them.
• 1:06:13
  It was called the Devo.
• 1:06:14
  It looks like it was made by Lego.
• 1:06:17
  Say no more.
• 1:06:19
  I thought it was kind of neat actually, but you know, since we're
• 1:06:21
  talking about oddballs, why don't we jump right into lost and found
• 1:06:26
  Brad, your favorite section, lost and found brought to you by the Dodge
• 1:06:31
  Dart best selling 2016 car of 2021.
• 1:06:36
  So apparently there's a Ferrari powered boat for sale right now.
• 1:06:41
  It's the world's only, allegedly, Ferrari powered boat.
• 1:06:46
  You can pick it up for a cool 15 million dollars.
• 1:06:49
  This thing is slick.
• 1:06:52
  I mean, this is handcrafted all wood speedboat built in the
• 1:06:56
  fifties with a Ferrari power plant.
• 1:06:57
  This is old school.
• 1:06:59
  Awesome.
• 1:07:00
  Old world.
• 1:07:00
  Awesome.
• 1:07:01
  I love this thing.
• 1:07:02
  Now.
• 1:07:03
  I think it's funny that this came across our desk and about a week or two later.
• 1:07:07
  Just happened to turn on Motor Trend and there was an episode of
• 1:07:11
  Phantom Works Garage, where they were building a replica of this thing.
• 1:07:14
  And I thought, Oh man, I mean, I guess it's targeted advertising.
• 1:07:18
  Who knows?
• 1:07:19
  It's the internet doing its thing.
• 1:07:20
  Skynet.
• 1:07:21
  I think this is cool.
• 1:07:22
  I think this is neat.
• 1:07:23
  Well, I like the fact that you can buy.
• 1:07:25
  A smaller version of it.
• 1:07:26
  If you want the, it's called the baby too.
• 1:07:30
  It's called the, it's not called anything, but you can get a one eighth
• 1:07:33
  scale model for a modest 8, 500.
• 1:07:37
  Oh, nevermind.
• 1:07:39
  1, 600 destination charge.
• 1:07:42
  The answer is always Miata.
• 1:07:44
  This thing's cool though.
• 1:07:45
  I would, I would rock it.
• 1:07:46
  I don't, I probably don't fit, but I would rock it.
• 1:07:48
  So yes, if you're in the market for a used vehicle, you missed out on this one.
• 1:07:53
  You can still buy your PT Cruiser, but you can no longer buy your car of your dreams.
• 1:07:58
  The 2000 Chevrolet Metro.
• 1:08:01
  Is it a coupe or a cabriolet?
• 1:08:04
  It's a hatchback.
• 1:08:05
  Oh, it's an egg.
• 1:08:06
  It's an egg.
• 1:08:07
  It's a white egg.
• 1:08:09
  It's a hatchback.
• 1:08:10
  400 miles on it.
• 1:08:11
  This thing was pristine, perfect specimen really of the automobile.
• 1:08:16
  And it's sold for a whopping, you know, I hope you're sitting down 18, 000, 200
• 1:08:25
  for a geo Metro.
• 1:08:26
  That's 22 years old.
• 1:08:28
  Yes.
• 1:08:29
  Oh, what are people thinking?
• 1:08:31
  Says here, the buyer is Andrew bank.
• 1:08:37
  So with only 400 miles, then it qualifies to be, you know,
• 1:08:41
  top spot on bring a trailer.
• 1:08:43
  So that should easily like I should double his money by listing it immediately.
• 1:08:47
  Right.
• 1:08:47
  Yeah.
• 1:08:48
  Here's a question for you.
• 1:08:49
  What do you think is more ridiculous that this car sold for 18, 200 or
• 1:08:54
  that E30 sold for an astronomical amount of money back when it sold?
• 1:08:58
  For a quarter million bucks for that M3?
• 1:09:00
  Yeah.
• 1:09:01
  I mean, just the numbers are insane.
• 1:09:03
  I talk to Donovan all the time about this because, you know, he's in that
• 1:09:06
  market and he's always looking at stuff and we, you know, we could bounce ideas
• 1:09:09
  back and forth and it's just the bring a trailer stuff is nuts and I hate to call
• 1:09:12
  them out all the time, but it's just.
• 1:09:14
  I don't know.
• 1:09:14
  It's insane.
• 1:09:15
  And the conversation I had with like Chris Bright about the things they're
• 1:09:18
  doing over at, you know, Collector Part Exchange and stuff like that.
• 1:09:21
  It's just such a weird world right now with all these online marketplaces.
• 1:09:25
  And, you know, bring a trailer used to be the place where we'd
• 1:09:28
  go and salivate over cars going, Oh man, I wish I could buy that.
• 1:09:31
  It's actually pretty reasonably priced.
• 1:09:32
  Now you go there and go, what the hell are they smoking?
• 1:09:35
  Like, what is this?
• 1:09:36
  It's nutty.
• 1:09:37
  You know, the same is true of eBay and a lot of those other sites that they just,
• 1:09:41
  Suddenly get out of control, you know, when they're self managed and whatnot.
• 1:09:45
  But I hate the fact that bring a trailer has now become this, you
• 1:09:48
  know, high watermark litmus test for when you're selling a car.
• 1:09:51
  It's like, well, what is it?
• 1:09:52
  What's it worth on bring a trailer?
• 1:09:53
  You know, what did the last one sell for?
• 1:09:54
  And it's like, that's like saying, what did the last Camaro
• 1:09:57
  sell for a Barrett Jackson?
• 1:09:58
  I'm not going to pay that kind of price for your, your Camaro is not that Camaro.
• 1:10:03
  Exactly.
• 1:10:04
  Exactly.
• 1:10:05
  And shut up.
• 1:10:06
  I know what I have.
• 1:10:07
  No lowballs.
• 1:10:08
  Don't lowball me, bro.
• 1:10:09
  But speaking of lowball offers, we have a new, I guess,
• 1:10:13
  subsection of the Lost and Found.
• 1:10:14
  We're calling it The Andrew Bang Question.
• 1:10:16
  And how does that work exactly, Brent?
• 1:10:18
  Basically, you pick the most expensive car you can find for
• 1:10:22
  the cheapest price you can get it.
• 1:10:23
  Oh, so you sort from lowest to highest?
• 1:10:26
  Yes.
• 1:10:26
  Yes.
• 1:10:27
  What can we put in the, what can we put in the bank?
• 1:10:29
  A Lamborghini Gallardo for 35, 000.
• 1:10:34
  All right.
• 1:10:34
  That's a good deal.
• 1:10:35
  So what's the catch?
• 1:10:36
  It's been stolen a handful of times.
• 1:10:39
  It was a drug mule?
• 1:10:40
  No, I don't know.
• 1:10:41
  It may have been.
• 1:10:42
  It ran and drove when parked.
• 1:10:45
  You know, every great ad starts that way.
• 1:10:47
  It's been repainted twice.
• 1:10:49
  It's not the most pristine Lamborghini out there on the market.
• 1:10:53
  Convertible top doesn't work.
• 1:10:55
  Eh, it's just wind resistance anyway.
• 1:10:57
  We top up, you're good.
• 1:10:59
  It's probably a 30, 000 fix right there.
• 1:11:01
  You pay 35, 000 for the car and another 30, 000 to fix the convertible top.
• 1:11:05
  You know, I'm going to be honest with you.
• 1:11:06
  I don't want a convertible supercar.
• 1:11:08
  For whatever reason, none of them appeal to me.
• 1:11:11
  Whether it's the Ferraris, the Porsches, the Lamborghinis.
• 1:11:15
  I just, I don't want any of them.
• 1:11:16
  They're the only ones I fit in.
• 1:11:18
  Think you'd want the extra structural rigidity for when you crash it.
• 1:11:22
  Not you, but the use the crash them, you know,
• 1:11:29
  Andrew bank.
• 1:11:30
  If you're listening, you can go buy this car.
• 1:11:32
  You should sell both the Dodge Vipers that you've purchased and buy this car.
• 1:11:35
  Yeah, I'll pass.
• 1:11:37
  But more on put it in the bank.
• 1:11:39
  Maybe that's what we should call it.
• 1:11:41
  Put it in the bank next month as we look for more of these hot deals.
• 1:11:45
  So not just the lost and found, but what's the best, cheapest thing you can find.
• 1:11:49
  It's some sad news since I like to cover historical things and you
• 1:11:52
  guys know I've mentioned many times before about Lotus and the Lotus.
• 1:11:55
  Family, you know, the Chapman's and whatnot.
• 1:11:57
  Unfortunately, the late Colin Chapman, his wife outlived him by many, many years.
• 1:12:01
  Colin Chapman died in 1982.
• 1:12:04
  His wife, Hazel Chapman, finally died at the age of 94 here during
• 1:12:10
  the winter of 2021, leading into 22.
• 1:12:13
  You say finally, like you were hoping or expecting about to die.
• 1:12:17
  It's she finally did it.
• 1:12:19
  She finally kicked the bucket, that old bag.
• 1:12:21
  She finally died.
• 1:12:23
  Probably wrong choice of words, but the sad reality of all that
• 1:12:28
  is she is the legacy of Lotus.
• 1:12:30
  She inspired Colin.
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  He built the first Lotus race car for her.
• 1:12:35
  There's a lot of stuff that goes around her story, their marriage, the company,
• 1:12:39
  and the one still secret that has now gone to the grave is that she's
• 1:12:43
  Is where does the name come from?
• 1:12:45
  Nobody knows that.
• 1:12:46
  And the family, I guess, is under oath to not disclose it.
• 1:12:50
  It was something very personal to Colin.
• 1:12:52
  And I was just kind of hoping that maybe we would find out the secret.
• 1:12:55
  But, you know, sad day for the automotive world because she was a huge influencer.
• 1:13:00
  Both of them, obviously, you know, big parts of Formula One and things like that.
• 1:13:04
  So our hearts go out to the Chapman family.
• 1:13:06
  And on that comes news of new Lotus EVs and things like that in the future.
• 1:13:11
  So.
• 1:13:12
  We'll see where the brand goes.
• 1:13:13
  I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon.
• 1:13:15
  It really has survived, you know, the trials and tribulations of, of war
• 1:13:19
  and economy and racing and everything.
• 1:13:22
  But I guess that's a great segue to talk about the future since we are kind of
• 1:13:26
  dabbling there with the future of Lotus.
• 1:13:28
  Let's talk about new random EVs and concepts.
• 1:13:30
  The Pininfarina Battista.
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  Okay.
• 1:13:32
  So of course I'm going to like it because Pininfarina, you know,
• 1:13:34
  famed for styling numerous Ferraris.
• 1:13:37
  Over the decades.
• 1:13:38
  Did you look at those specs?
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  Seems like it's gonna be pretty slow.
• 1:13:42
  I mean, 1900 brake horsepower.
• 1:13:44
  That's it.
• 1:13:45
  The new Dodge will have 9, 000, so it'll be okay.
• 1:13:48
  I think it's cool looking.
• 1:13:50
  The price tag is, the price tag is hefty.
• 1:13:52
  I mean, two and a half million dollars for this thing is what it is.
• 1:13:57
  It's considered a hyper EV.
• 1:13:58
  It is very Ferrari esque because obviously Pininfarina penned so many
• 1:14:03
  Ferraris and whatnot over the years.
• 1:14:05
  I think it's a good looking car.
• 1:14:07
  More than you can afford, pal.
• 1:14:09
  Yeah.
• 1:14:09
  Pininfarina.
• 1:14:10
  I would buy one if I was in that market.
• 1:14:13
  And then Nissan revealed an electric pickup truck.
• 1:14:16
  What?
• 1:14:17
  Yes, they did.
• 1:14:18
  And you know what?
• 1:14:18
  I will give them props for saying, BMW, let me show you how it's done.
• 1:14:23
  You want to make your grills bigger?
• 1:14:25
  Well, screw you.
• 1:14:26
  We're just going to make the whole front end a grill.
• 1:14:28
  That thing is heinous.
• 1:14:30
  It's even see through.
• 1:14:31
  I'd love to see the women that drive this wearing a skirt.
• 1:14:34
  That would be great.
• 1:14:36
  They all wear yoga pants now, Brad.
• 1:14:38
  Nobody wears skirts.
• 1:14:39
  True, true, true.
• 1:14:40
  Lululemon by stalking them.
• 1:14:42
  I mean, it's Athleisure wear.
• 1:14:45
  Excuse me.
• 1:14:47
  I mean, it's ugly from every angle.
• 1:14:49
  The color is ugly.
• 1:14:50
  The wheels are ugly.
• 1:14:51
  What?
• 1:14:51
  This thing is awesome.
• 1:14:52
  What are you talking about?
• 1:14:53
  It's, Oh my God.
• 1:14:54
  It's the definition of fugly.
• 1:14:55
  No, you can write words.
• 1:14:57
  Awesome.
• 1:14:59
  Put the birds in the Microsoft on the do that, but we shouldn't be allowed.
• 1:15:05
  Oh, the little heart emojis.
• 1:15:06
  Oh, I love the cap.
• 1:15:07
  Oh, this thing is awesome.
• 1:15:08
  The, uh, the cap looks like a Nissan 200 or 300, 200 SX or whatever.
• 1:15:13
  Two 50, two 70 S whatever.
• 1:15:15
  The one that's a drift car now.
• 1:15:17
  Oh, I know what you're talking about.
• 1:15:18
  Yeah.
• 1:15:18
  Yeah.
• 1:15:19
  It's like a 200 x or something like that.
• 1:15:21
  Yeah.
• 1:15:21
  That's terrible.
• 1:15:21
  This thing's cool looking, man.
• 1:15:22
  I mean, it's a concept car.
• 1:15:24
  All right.
• 1:15:24
  Like it looks like what?
• 1:15:26
  It is a concept.
• 1:15:27
  Okay.
• 1:15:27
  I I, the concept is awesome.
• 1:15:29
  I, I get it.
• 1:15:30
  But I want, I know that concepts are not supposed to be functional,
• 1:15:33
  and I understand that the grill is the entire front end of this thing.
• 1:15:37
  Do those headlights actually work the way they're laid out?
• 1:15:40
  Probably.
• 1:15:41
  I wanna see it to believe it.
• 1:15:44
  , but let's move on.
• 1:15:44
  It's, it's horrible.
• 1:15:46
  There are no headlights.
• 1:15:47
  It's just a Nissan.
• 1:15:49
  It's, well, that's my point.
• 1:15:50
  Like, do they actually work?
• 1:15:51
  No.
• 1:15:52
  So here's two things that I never thought I would hear in the same sentence.
• 1:15:57
  And I got to get your take on this, Brad, because I know you
• 1:15:59
  live in the Toyota Lexus camp.
• 1:16:01
  Hydrogen off roader.
• 1:16:03
  Let me say that again, hydrogen off roader.
• 1:16:07
  Why not?
• 1:16:07
  I mean, you can do an electric off roader.
• 1:16:09
  Apparently they're proving all of that.
• 1:16:11
  The thing I find more interesting is it's a Lexus side by side.
• 1:16:15
  I was wondering if we were going to get to that.
• 1:16:17
  It looks like a rebadged Can Am or any of those.
• 1:16:21
  I mean, we have a couple.
• 1:16:23
  Side by side enthusiasts in the club here.
• 1:16:26
  And I'd be really curious to find out what they think about
• 1:16:29
  the Lexus hydrogen off roader.
• 1:16:32
  This is another vehicle that begs the question.
• 1:16:35
  Why the answer is probably why not?
• 1:16:37
  No, thank you.
• 1:16:38
  I'll pass.
• 1:16:39
  I mean, it's Toyota doing Toyota things.
• 1:16:42
  This is very true.
• 1:16:43
  What do you do when you're the number one manufacturer?
• 1:16:46
  Whatever the hell you want.
• 1:16:47
  You throw hydrogen bombs into side by sides.
• 1:16:50
  I mean, they're the only ones really trying to develop
• 1:16:52
  hydrogen technology in cars.
• 1:16:55
  So for them to just extend that to this, isn't really a shocking.
• 1:16:59
  All right.
• 1:17:00
  I would want to keep this away from Daniel's square body though.
• 1:17:03
  A thousand percent, but let me, let me put it to you this way in light of Betty
• 1:17:07
  White and you know, everything that's happened in the last couple of weeks.
• 1:17:10
  So picture it Florida, 2022.
• 1:17:12
  The Lexus hydrogen golf cart.
• 1:17:15
  That would have made more sense to me than whatever this is.
• 1:17:21
  Right.
• 1:17:21
  And they, they wouldn't, they wouldn't even have bothered with the hydrogen.
• 1:17:24
  It would have just been electric.
• 1:17:25
  Oh, when I looked at it, it kind of looks like a funky golf cart anyway, because
• 1:17:30
  it's, you know, it's more upright side by side and like the sportier ones that
• 1:17:34
  are out there now, these UTVs and stuff that exists, I kind of made me wonder why.
• 1:17:39
  The big brands haven't gotten into luxury golf carts for some
• 1:17:44
  of these retirement communities.
• 1:17:45
  I think people would buy a Lexus electric or hydrogen golf cart.
• 1:17:49
  Wouldn't you?
• 1:17:50
  I think their customers all die before they take delivery because chips.
• 1:17:54
  Moving on, Tanya mentioned earlier she wanted to talk about Mercedes.
• 1:17:58
  They had unveiled that, I don't remember what it was, but it was heinous looking.
• 1:18:02
  The EQS, it looks like a suppository as Mark Shank said.
• 1:18:05
  Yeah, unfortunately, but now in their whole EQ line, because that's going
• 1:18:10
  to be their electric line vehicle, they've unveiled a new concept.
• 1:18:14
  I don't know how I feel about the way it looks.
• 1:18:16
  It doesn't scream Mercedes, but it screams vintage Aston or something.
• 1:18:22
  I agree.
• 1:18:23
  I agree.
• 1:18:24
  The interesting thing about this, which is going to be the EQXX or
• 1:18:29
  something like that, the vision EQXX is I guess it's concept name.
• 1:18:32
  It's claiming on simulation to get 620 miles on a single rage.
• 1:18:37
  So that would outpace everything available right now, if they could
• 1:18:41
  actually do this in production versus simulated on a computer.
• 1:18:46
  So the question is what has Mercedes unlocked?
• 1:18:50
  Right.
• 1:18:51
  We're not unlocked.
• 1:18:52
  And who are they getting their batteries from?
• 1:18:53
  Right.
• 1:18:54
  Cause I'm hearing a lot lately about, you know, Tesla and Panasonic
• 1:18:57
  partnering up, things like that.
• 1:18:58
  They say the drag coefficient on this thing is super low.
• 1:19:02
  It's like 0.
• 1:19:03
  17 to 0.
• 1:19:04
  2, depending on where you read.
• 1:19:05
  The more I look at this thing from the different angles to your
• 1:19:08
  point, reminiscent of an Aston, it actually reminds me even more
• 1:19:11
  so of the new McLaren long tail.
• 1:19:14
  It just has that look to it, especially from the rear, the
• 1:19:17
  front from certain angles.
• 1:19:20
  I love it.
• 1:19:20
  And other angles, I sort of hate it.
• 1:19:22
  It's got a weird like Sauber C9 thing going on for me for the front.
• 1:19:27
  It looks kind of like a race car, but it's not, it's just, it's big.
• 1:19:30
  I think that's the issue I take with it.
• 1:19:32
  It's like, I want it.
• 1:19:33
  It's like those Mercedes from like 10 years ago where it was like, we're
• 1:19:37
  going to do the low roof line on a four door to try to make it look small.
• 1:19:41
  But in reality, it's like a limousine or my Bach or something.
• 1:19:44
  I'm like, I don't know the wheels.
• 1:19:46
  Take away from it, give me those manhole covers from like the late
• 1:19:51
  nineties and stuff like that.
• 1:19:52
  Like even something retro would look better than what's on here.
• 1:19:57
  I don't know.
• 1:19:57
  I'm not sold yet.
• 1:19:58
  I'm intrigued, not just from the technology standpoint, but even
• 1:20:02
  this design, there's so much room for improvement and knows what
• 1:20:06
  this would actually turn into given it's still in a concept form and we
• 1:20:10
  already know how concepts never end up looking like the real thing, but.
• 1:20:14
  Mercedes is, in fact, doing things.
• 1:20:16
  And you know who else is still doing things?
• 1:20:19
  Sony.
• 1:20:19
  And I hear it's not the PlayStation 5.
• 1:20:21
  Well, you can't find one of those, but you can find a Sony electric car.
• 1:20:24
  What?
• 1:20:25
  Well, not yet.
• 1:20:27
  Those are still concepts too.
• 1:20:28
  However, we talked about So is the PS5.
• 1:20:31
  We talked about a while ago, which I think it was Two years ago at CES,
• 1:20:39
  Sony unveiled the vision s their possible entry into electric cars.
• 1:20:45
  And this past year at the Consumer Electronics Show, they unveiled the
• 1:20:49
  vision S zero two, which is their SUV.
• 1:20:54
  entry if they actually ever do this, right?
• 1:20:57
  First things first, they put the Vision S1 in a trash compactor, right?
• 1:21:02
  I mean, that's what this thing looks like.
• 1:21:04
  It looks like they washed it.
• 1:21:06
  Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:21:08
  Okay.
• 1:21:09
  Cool.
• 1:21:09
  Unfortunately for me, they look better, sort of, but they
• 1:21:14
  look too much like Tesla's.
• 1:21:16
  I think the front of the Vision S1, let's call it that, looks like a Taycan.
• 1:21:21
  Which I'm okay with.
• 1:21:23
  I like the fact that it has like legit wheels, stuff like that.
• 1:21:26
  I mean, kind of re reviewing this car.
• 1:21:28
  Now looking at it, you know, side by side with the other one compared to the
• 1:21:31
  original, like, you know, auto show debut pictures that we saw at CES and whatnot.
• 1:21:36
  Here's the biggest problem I have with these EVs.
• 1:21:39
  They have so much power.
• 1:21:40
  And we talk about it, you know, many times, you know, who needs a grocery
• 1:21:43
  getter that goes zero to 60 in two seconds and all this Aesthetically, why
• 1:21:47
  do we need these heinous freaking wheels?
• 1:21:50
  I mean, it makes the cars look like hot garbage.
• 1:21:53
  The Vision S, the original one, I think it's understated.
• 1:21:56
  I would drive that if you told me that was a Sony, I wouldn't believe you.
• 1:22:00
  I would tell you, Oh, that's like a Hyundai or that's, you
• 1:22:03
  know, some sort of other, maybe Toyota or something like that.
• 1:22:05
  I just, I don't know, but this other thing it's redeeming value is not the outside.
• 1:22:10
  I think the interior is super cool.
• 1:22:13
  I'm even a fan of this.
• 1:22:14
  big, ridiculous Star Trek dashboard that's in it.
• 1:22:18
  I don't know how I feel about all these new dashboards that are nothing but
• 1:22:21
  screens, but the seats look like they, uh, would cradle you quite nicely.
• 1:22:26
  I'm not saying these screens aren't going to break.
• 1:22:28
  I just think aesthetically.
• 1:22:30
  Sony has done a good job.
• 1:22:31
  It looks cool.
• 1:22:33
  Well, and we should expect that from them.
• 1:22:34
  If anything, this thing should have a killer sound system in it.
• 1:22:37
  I agree with that.
• 1:22:38
  And a really good display systems, right?
• 1:22:40
  Because that's what they know how to do.
• 1:22:42
  Exactly.
• 1:22:43
  And I mean, the other interesting thing where he, who shall not be named Musk
• 1:22:48
  refuses to use technology, you know, we're still using camera technology,
• 1:22:53
  like literal cameras for the, you know, all the sensors and all that stuff.
• 1:22:58
  Sony's like, nah, we're doing LIDAR.
• 1:23:01
  Nice.
• 1:23:01
  It takes a combination of all those things, right?
• 1:23:03
  Well, it does, but certain folks, Musk refuses basically.
• 1:23:08
  Has said that he's not going to use it.
• 1:23:09
  And it's like, why it's more advanced than anything else.
• 1:23:12
  Who knows what those reasons are.
• 1:23:13
  I don't recall at any rate, it'll be interesting to see, you know,
• 1:23:17
  again, I think what we said is, you know, this is more about the
• 1:23:20
  technology versus the actual car, so this is a way for them to showcase
• 1:23:24
  to all the other auto manufacturers.
• 1:23:26
  This is what we bring to the table.
• 1:23:28
  Do you want to come by our dashboards, our sound systems, dah, dah, dah.
• 1:23:33
  Oh, Hey.
• 1:23:33
  And also our LIDAR sensor technology for autonomous driving is.
• 1:23:37
  And that goes back to what the guy from Rimac was saying as well, where
• 1:23:43
  that's part of how he got his start was licensing some of his ideas and
• 1:23:47
  his technology to other companies.
• 1:23:49
  So this is an opportunity, not for Sony to make cars, but
• 1:23:52
  license some of their ideas.
• 1:23:53
  So I agree with you there.
• 1:23:54
  Sell their, sell their technology.
• 1:23:56
  Now I will say this about the Teslas.
• 1:23:58
  From a business perspective, it makes a thousand percent sense to
• 1:24:02
  not retrofit the LIDAR into the cars.
• 1:24:05
  Because if you look at it from the perspective, like the big three, how
• 1:24:09
  much it takes to make a change on a vehicle, it'll cost them probably 200,
• 1:24:13
  000 to figure out how to put in one LIDAR sensor on one corner of the car.
• 1:24:19
  If they're trying to minimize and maximize like their profits and stuff
• 1:24:22
  and all the, you know, costs and profits and all that, it's going to
• 1:24:25
  It's not advantageous for them to go back and redesign the Model 3 right now.
• 1:24:29
  No, but he could have already put the LiDAR in.
• 1:24:31
  That's part of the point.
• 1:24:32
  He, like, refuses because it's not like LiDAR just came out last year.
• 1:24:35
  So he had opportunity, because since he's been building cars from the ground up,
• 1:24:39
  to have started with that technology.
• 1:24:41
  And he's refused so far for whatever the reasons are would need to investigate it.
• 1:24:45
  It actually is a great segue into we would be remiss since
• 1:24:50
  we're already talking about it.
• 1:24:51
  Tesla's raising their prices yet again.
• 1:24:53
  Yes, which is, you know, there's never a reason.
• 1:24:56
  Fine, probably supply chain chips, the moon phase climate change, who
• 1:25:02
  knows, but yes, the prices on all their models at the same time are increasing.
• 1:25:07
  Believe it's like two to four grand depending on, on the model, which is in
• 1:25:11
  a lot, but it's not insignificant either.
• 1:25:13
  Right.
• 1:25:14
  And it kind of pushes that model three that I thought was supposed to be this
• 1:25:17
  entry level, low priced vehicle to almost mid forty thousands now, which.
• 1:25:22
  I don't know about anybody else, but 40 plus thousand for a car
• 1:25:25
  is pretty fricking expensive.
• 1:25:27
  They're raising their prices because home depot prices went up.
• 1:25:31
  Damn, the cost of plywood is pretty expensive these days.
• 1:25:34
  It's true.
• 1:25:35
  It's true.
• 1:25:35
  Zynga.
• 1:25:36
  But then they're going into partnerships with companies like.
• 1:25:39
  That's a little bit misleading because they're not going
• 1:25:41
  into a partnership with Hertz.
• 1:25:43
  There's no contract apparently between Tesla and Hertz, but Hertz has put in
• 1:25:48
  orders for A hundred thousand Tesla's model threes and whys, or maybe
• 1:25:54
  they're all model threes, basically to have on their lots as rental cars.
• 1:25:58
  And you can, in fact, already rent Tesla's from Hertz facilities.
• 1:26:03
  I don't know which ones, but if you're flying into LAX at any time, I did
• 1:26:07
  check and you can reserve currently a model three, the model whys are
• 1:26:12
  sold out or rented out, you know, I looked at the price and at first
• 1:26:15
  I was like, dang, that's expensive.
• 1:26:17
  But then I'm like, well, is it really?
• 1:26:19
  So it is really expensive.
• 1:26:23
  So my bigger question is, do they still ask you to prepay for the fuel on return?
• 1:26:28
  They got to charge it up when you returned it to the airport, right?
• 1:26:31
  That'll be an interesting question is how much they, you know, make it a premium.
• 1:26:34
  If you prefill, you always end up paying a little bit more than
• 1:26:37
  if you got your fuel on yourself.
• 1:26:38
  Before you returned it.
• 1:26:39
  So I don't know what they'll do with the electrification, but you find yourself
• 1:26:42
  in LAX, believe my rental dates were, I'm sure they won't change, but I was
• 1:26:47
  looking sometime at the end of February for giggles for 125 and 35 cents a day.
• 1:26:52
  You too can rent a model three standard range Tesla.
• 1:26:57
  I mean, that's the level where you can rent like the upper luxury cars when
• 1:27:01
  you're paying, you know, 120, 150 a day.
• 1:27:04
  I mean, at this Hertz, you could rent the elite sports car.
• 1:27:08
  Which is a v4 from the picture Camaro Charger or Mustang for 133.
• 1:27:14
  85 a day.
• 1:27:16
  You could also rent the premium sports car convertible, which shows
• 1:27:21
  a picture of a Camaro for 145.
• 1:27:24
  58 a day.
• 1:27:25
  I think at the end of all that, I would still take the Tesla,
• 1:27:27
  but want a four cylinder Camaro.
• 1:27:29
  And I still get a Chevy Impala for 15 a day.
• 1:27:34
  I heard a seven.
• 1:27:35
  Birdspot 750 of them recently.
• 1:27:40
  No, that was budget.
• 1:27:42
  125 a day is pretty expensive.
• 1:27:44
  If you're on a budget, you're not going to spring for that.
• 1:27:46
  I mean, granted the cheapest vehicle that you could rent right now on the
• 1:27:50
  days I chose at LAX is an economy two or four door and they show a
• 1:27:55
  Chevy of AO two door in the picture.
• 1:27:58
  No, sorry.
• 1:27:58
  A Chevy spark in the picture.
• 1:28:01
  81 and 27 cents a day.
• 1:28:03
  I mean, that's LA prices.
• 1:28:05
  I mean, if you were in the middle of Omaha, it's like 12 a day, like Brad
• 1:28:09
  was saying, but you can buy a lot of gas at 125 bucks a day, you know?
• 1:28:14
  So in the rental car world, and you got to look at how renters use rental cars.
• 1:28:18
  I mean, unlike my trip from the mint to Phoenix, where I was putting on
• 1:28:22
  hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of miles for the person that's,
• 1:28:24
  you know, flying into town, buzzing around, doing meetings and whatever,
• 1:28:27
  is it really worth renting a Tesla?
• 1:28:29
  I don't know.
• 1:28:30
  I mean, obviously it would depend on what city you're flying into, because if they
• 1:28:33
  don't have a good charging network, you don't want to have to be dealing with
• 1:28:35
  that hassle of you're in a new city that you don't know, and you're got to run to
• 1:28:39
  meetings or do this, that, and the other.
• 1:28:40
  No crap.
• 1:28:41
  The dude before me left it empty.
• 1:28:43
  Now, I will say this.
• 1:28:44
  There is an upside to this.
• 1:28:45
  The more I think about it.
• 1:28:46
  The Zipcar business model would have really worked well for this in the sense
• 1:28:50
  that if you could drop the Tesla off at a charging station and then pick up another
• 1:28:55
  one somewhere else, just by maybe using like an ID card that says, Hey, I'm a
• 1:28:58
  Tesla subscriber or something like that.
• 1:29:01
  Boop, jump in the car and drive away.
• 1:29:03
  So you just steal someone else's car while they're in the Starbucks.
• 1:29:10
  Okay, this is gonna work good.
• 1:29:11
  But at any rate, depending on the city, if you wanted to see what the fuss is about a
• 1:29:16
  Tesla, but aren't ready to commit to one, you could go rent one for a couple days.
• 1:29:20
  That's a solid plan.
• 1:29:21
  Still cheaper than committing.
• 1:29:22
  So moving on, the Cybertruck, which was, you know, Coming soon to garages,
• 1:29:29
  nowhere because it can't fit apparently on their website earlier this month or
• 1:29:33
  the last couple of weeks has removed everything saying production 2022.
• 1:29:39
  Basically, it's like up in the air.
• 1:29:41
  I guess you can still reserve them, but.
• 1:29:43
  question mark when you would actually get it.
• 1:29:46
  So it sounds like they're delayed yet again.
• 1:29:48
  Who knows why?
• 1:29:49
  There's never a reason.
• 1:29:50
  Sounds like the windshield wiper blades could be a reason or lack thereof.
• 1:29:56
  They're going to laser beams.
• 1:29:58
  Apparently they're trying to do like a single wiper blade and Musk
• 1:30:02
  himself has said that it's troubling.
• 1:30:06
  Mercedes figured a single wiper blade out in the eighties on the one nineties.
• 1:30:11
  I mean, come on.
• 1:30:12
  Everyone figured wiper blades out.
• 1:30:13
  How many decades ago?
• 1:30:15
  Like seriously, just put fricking wiper blades on this thing.
• 1:30:18
  I don't know.
• 1:30:19
  I don't know.
• 1:30:19
  He can do all these things, but I can't put a wiper blade on.
• 1:30:22
  Well, the problem is this, right?
• 1:30:24
  If you do the basic math, I mean, we all took like some form of trigonometry
• 1:30:28
  or I don't know what in school.
• 1:30:30
  If you look at the width of the vehicle to use two blades, they would never
• 1:30:34
  reach the top of the windshield and they would probably come below your nose.
• 1:30:39
  So they would be totally ineffective.
• 1:30:40
  So I get why he's got to use one wiper blade.
• 1:30:43
  But the problem is the wiper blade is six feet long.
• 1:30:46
  So where do you mount it?
• 1:30:48
  It doesn't make any sense.
• 1:30:49
  Like the whole design is terrible.
• 1:30:51
  It is on the list of cars yet to be released that we should all be looking
• 1:30:55
  out for on that article we talked about at the beginning of the show.
• 1:30:58
  It's still listed there.
• 1:30:59
  Hot wheels has gone as far as to release cyber trucks.
• 1:31:02
  That's the only place you can buy a cyber truck right now
• 1:31:04
  at every Walmart and target.
• 1:31:05
  I seen them, I had them in my hands, but if you're dying to get one in
• 1:31:09
  your garage, even though it won't fit, you're going to have to wait.
• 1:31:12
  So you can buy my reserve spot double down on that 200 bucks.
• 1:31:17
  You know, I feel like they are missing an opportunity here.
• 1:31:21
  They just need to go to Home Depot and buy a six foot long squeegee like the window
• 1:31:26
  washers use and just put a little arm from the center of it straight up and it
• 1:31:30
  pulls it down and pushes it straight up and it pulls it down straight up, pulls it
• 1:31:34
  down, but you have these at gas stations.
• 1:31:37
  Why can't Tesla get one?
• 1:31:38
  If this thing wasn't shaped like N64, Star Fox, and it was more like that
• 1:31:44
  Mercedes EQXX we were just talking about, maybe it had a low coefficient
• 1:31:48
  of drag, because you can't tell me that angular design is streamlined in any way.
• 1:31:52
  You probably wouldn't even need a wiper blade.
• 1:31:54
  Like think about some of those IMSA cars where, you know, the prototypes
• 1:31:57
  where it's like, they're going so fast.
• 1:31:59
  They're so slippery.
• 1:32:00
  The rain just flies off the windshield.
• 1:32:02
  It could be the same thing.
• 1:32:03
  But when you're trying to drive a brick.
• 1:32:06
  Through the air, it's, it's not going to happen.
• 1:32:08
  They just need rain X.
• 1:32:09
  Nobody's driving that quickly to have the rain beat off and fling off.
• 1:32:14
  Like if you're crawling at 20 miles an hour, I don't care what your
• 1:32:17
  coefficient of or angle of windshield is.
• 1:32:19
  It doesn't work that way.
• 1:32:20
  We could use tear offs.
• 1:32:22
  Like on helmets, right?
• 1:32:23
  That's all they need on the cyber truck.
• 1:32:25
  It's just tear off.
• 1:32:26
  So you get out, reach around the A pillar, yeah, reach out with the A pillar.
• 1:32:30
  Just rip it off.
• 1:32:30
  How are you reaching out?
• 1:32:32
  You're like getting out, like put it in autopilot and you crawl out?
• 1:32:35
  Like that's it?
• 1:32:36
  No, you, you, you use a windshield arm.
• 1:32:38
  You, you need to use a windshield wiper arm to reach up and tear it off.
• 1:32:42
  Or you use normal fucking windshield wipers.
• 1:32:45
  You idiots.
• 1:32:45
  Maybe the real hold up is that laser.
• 1:32:49
  Technology.
• 1:32:50
  I think it's the lasers.
• 1:32:51
  The lasers are the answer.
• 1:32:52
  The laser is the lidar.
• 1:32:54
  In good news though, how this was ever a good idea.
• 1:32:57
  Apparently Tesla will stop allowing drivers to play video
• 1:33:01
  games while driving in their car.
• 1:33:04
  They have that gigantic touchscreen, right?
• 1:33:06
  And so they have passenger play.
• 1:33:08
  So in theory, the idea is your passenger can amuse themselves by playing.
• 1:33:13
  Whatever on the screen, but there's nothing built in to prevent the driver
• 1:33:17
  from using it while driving, which, of course, normally that stuff is turned off
• 1:33:21
  by the fact that the car is in motion.
• 1:33:23
  The car is in motion.
• 1:33:23
  Your passenger can't play either.
• 1:33:25
  So it's like, why is this even an option?
• 1:33:27
  Well, it's an option because you put it in self driving autonomous
• 1:33:31
  mode, 12, and you play 12.
• 1:33:32
  Pokemon go the whole time.
• 1:33:34
  It's amazing.
• 1:33:34
  No, because even according to Tesla, you're supposed to still be watching
• 1:33:38
  the road and maintaining your hands on the steering wheel, so you shouldn't
• 1:33:41
  be playing, putting the wheel.
• 1:33:42
  I need one hand to hold the steering wheel and one hand to throw the poker ball.
• 1:33:46
  I can prove this allegedly.
• 1:33:48
  Just gimme a Tesla.
• 1:33:49
  I'll prove it to you.
• 1:33:50
  I feel like we needed this option when we went to NCM . The radio didn't work.
• 1:33:57
  For like 11 hours, it was ridiculous.
• 1:33:59
  We had NPR and then we had nothing and then we had church and then
• 1:34:04
  we had nothing and it was just 12 hours of awkward, best friend ness.
• 1:34:12
  But that was an epic trip and we have a story to tell about it.
• 1:34:14
  So there you go.
• 1:34:15
  But you know, it lowered our expectations, didn't it?
• 1:34:18
  Lowered expectations,
• 1:34:22
  which this last one sort of straddles that line, a gentleman in Helsinki got
• 1:34:29
  very upset that his Tesla broke down.
• 1:34:32
  Something happened with the batteries or some fault.
• 1:34:35
  And then I guess because he did some mods on the car, it was out of
• 1:34:38
  warranty or out of Tesla careness.
• 1:34:42
  It was a 22, 000 repair bill.
• 1:34:45
  He didn't want to pay that.
• 1:34:47
  Apparently this guy's got lots of money and he decided instead of paying
• 1:34:51
  that, he was going to blow his car up.
• 1:34:53
  And so I don't know that the Finnish guys that's, I think they got a
• 1:34:58
  YouTube channel and they go around basically blowing stuff up there, the
• 1:35:02
  bomb dudes or something like that.
• 1:35:04
  I guess somehow I got in contact with them and they strapped 66 pounds of
• 1:35:07
  dynamite to this Tesla in like this.
• 1:35:10
  Rock quarry, and then proceeded to blow it to smithereens.
• 1:35:13
  And there's a video of this explosion.
• 1:35:16
  Top gear level of excitement right there.
• 1:35:17
  That's something they would have done on top gear for sure.
• 1:35:20
  The old, the old top gear.
• 1:35:21
  I mean, I don't know why you do it.
• 1:35:22
  I mean, I guess it was a 2013 model S so you could say it's 10 years
• 1:35:27
  started out, but that's kind of stupid.
• 1:35:29
  There's something to be said about that, right?
• 1:35:30
  You hear these people all the time that I drove my Tesla 400, 000
• 1:35:33
  miles and I had not a single issue.
• 1:35:35
  I mean, there's the other end of this.
• 1:35:37
  Swing as well.
• 1:35:37
  People don't maybe necessarily talk about all the time.
• 1:35:40
  So this is, you know, something interesting now that I think about it,
• 1:35:43
  to your point, 2013, it's, you know, 10 years old and it's going to cost 22
• 1:35:48
  grand to get that car back on the road.
• 1:35:49
  You know, that's the half the cost of a new model three, right?
• 1:35:53
  Do you cut your losses?
• 1:35:54
  And then what do you do with a Tesla that needs 22, 000 worth of batteries?
• 1:35:58
  Nobody's going to buy that as a used fixer upper.
• 1:36:01
  You're still on the whole 22 grand.
• 1:36:03
  You know, what were they going to do with the car?
• 1:36:05
  Take it back and recycle it?
• 1:36:06
  Like, is there a plan for that?
• 1:36:08
  So I can see this from multiple angles.
• 1:36:11
  So it's not totally out of the realm to say, well, screw it.
• 1:36:14
  We're just going to blow it up.
• 1:36:16
  What was the alternative?
• 1:36:17
  Now, granted there's the hazmat side of this, like blowing up a car.
• 1:36:20
  I don't condone this, especially in EV because of, you know, all the
• 1:36:23
  lithium and all the stuff, but still I'm kind of like, all right, well,
• 1:36:27
  there were worse options, I suppose.
• 1:36:28
  I mean, if nothing else, it's kind of interesting to see.
• 1:36:31
  how it exploded and all the bits and pieces, which then they had, they went
• 1:36:34
  and collected and put into a giant pile.
• 1:36:37
  The bigger question is for how long did it burn afterwards?
• 1:36:40
  I mentioned Top Gear a moment ago, maybe sad news or maybe a
• 1:36:45
  want, want, but for the folks out there that are fans of Top Gear.
• 1:36:49
  Clarkson Hammond and May, you may recall that in 2016, they spun up their own
• 1:36:56
  social media network known as drive tribe.
• 1:36:59
  Fortunately for us, we're huge fans here at GTM of the old top gear.
• 1:37:03
  And Brad was such a big fan.
• 1:37:05
  He actually got us in on like day two, and we were one of the
• 1:37:09
  earliest tribes on drive tribe, and we've been, you know, consistently
• 1:37:12
  posting there and things like that.
• 1:37:14
  You can say what DriveTribe, what's DriveTribe or I
• 1:37:16
  haven't gone to DriveTribe.
• 1:37:17
  There's not a whole heck of a lot going on there.
• 1:37:18
  Well, folks, sad news after five years of being in service, they are
• 1:37:23
  finally shutting down DriveTribe here at the end of January.
• 1:37:27
  So if you need to, you know, pull down your posts, grab your pictures, whatever
• 1:37:31
  have you, DriveTribe will be no more.
• 1:37:34
  It is morphing into an Instagram only, you know, kind of like schwag.
• 1:37:39
  type of marketing thing.
• 1:37:41
  So that's what it's turning into, but it is no more.
• 1:37:43
  So I will say this.
• 1:37:45
  It's also a great opportunity for folks to maybe go and check out
• 1:37:49
  one of our partners, Garage Riot.
• 1:37:51
  You know, Garage Riot is a social media platform for car enthusiasts
• 1:37:54
  and petrol heads and whatnot.
• 1:37:56
  It's a free of charge based here out of the United States, but very
• 1:38:00
  similar to other social media platforms that you're used to, you know, like
• 1:38:03
  Instagram and Facebook, et cetera, but designed for petrol heads.
• 1:38:06
  Buy Petrolhead.
• 1:38:07
  So check out garage riot.com when you get a chance.
• 1:38:10
  So I spent a lot of time looking at posts on Instagram and most of my feed is full
• 1:38:15
  of car stuff and tuners and wheels and rof formm this and you know, Centerline
• 1:38:20
  that, this and that and the other thing, it popped on my feed not long ago.
• 1:38:24
  Somebody posted that the infamous.
• 1:38:26
  And slightly cult classic, Ronald teddy bear wheels were making a comeback.
• 1:38:32
  In the used market or new?
• 1:38:35
  New, no price.
• 1:38:36
  I didn't say who, you know, if Ronal was going to make them, but there are images
• 1:38:40
  or renderings of what they would look like today, a deep dish wheel, which
• 1:38:44
  is uncommon these days with high offset wheels coming on pretty much every car,
• 1:38:48
  gold rivets, you know, they actually paint the caricatures of the bear in
• 1:38:52
  black instead of just the traditional all silver wheel that they created.
• 1:38:56
  You know, back in the eighties and nineties, you know, famous and all
• 1:38:59
  the mark three Volkswagen, all those folks, they, they love those wheels,
• 1:39:01
  but yeah, apparently the Ronald teddy bear might be making a comeback.
• 1:39:05
  So I am definitely going to give up my spot in line for those to anybody else.
• 1:39:12
  Those only look good on a mark three Volkswagen pretty much.
• 1:39:16
  And you know, there's been some other interesting wheels.
• 1:39:19
  I'm going to call them interesting that have come out lately.
• 1:39:21
  Like the new, um, I think they were rotiforms that they're
• 1:39:24
  square, but they're Harlequin.
• 1:39:26
  So they look like waffles.
• 1:39:27
  They look cool.
• 1:39:28
  I'm like this big Atlas Toreg.
• 1:39:30
  Harlequin thing that they did, but I'm like, I don't see the application except
• 1:39:34
  for this one specific bill that I don't think it would look good on my car.
• 1:39:38
  And I think it just looks silly.
• 1:39:39
  These things are cool.
• 1:39:40
  If you're building a specific type of style or look, but
• 1:39:43
  yeah, definitely not for me.
• 1:39:44
  It would be cool.
• 1:39:45
  Like in a paperweight size key chain, I go with key chains.
• 1:39:49
  I would memorabilia type stuff.
• 1:39:50
  It would be pretty slick.
• 1:39:51
  My daughters would love this.
• 1:39:52
  So other things that lowered our expectations here over the winter,
• 1:39:56
  there was a gentleman that broke the motorcycle cannonball record, and
• 1:40:00
  basically he was quoted as saying, when interviewed, you know, what did you think?
• 1:40:05
  He goes, I would not recommend.
• 1:40:08
  Well, that's just because he wants to keep his record intact.
• 1:40:11
  Maybe, but I mean, there's no other way to say this.
• 1:40:14
  It's gotta be a ball buster.
• 1:40:16
  To ride cross country like that nonstop on a motorcycle.
• 1:40:19
  I mean, not even that, I mean, cause there are some comfortable motorcycles,
• 1:40:23
  but to do that, it's dangerous as hell.
• 1:40:25
  I mean, he had an average speed of almost 87 miles an hour with
• 1:40:30
  stopping for fuel and everything.
• 1:40:31
  His average.
• 1:40:33
  was 87 miles an hour.
• 1:40:34
  That means he must have been flying.
• 1:40:36
  Yeah, he was booking.
• 1:40:37
  It took, what, 36 hours for him to do this?
• 1:40:40
  Yeah.
• 1:40:40
  35 hours and some odd minutes.
• 1:40:43
  I mean, he's driving through the night and doing 90, 100, 150
• 1:40:48
  miles an hour and some stretches.
• 1:40:49
  No bueno, no thank you.
• 1:40:51
  Yeah, no thanks either.
• 1:40:52
  And can you imagine the noise that motorcycle made at wide
• 1:40:55
  open throttle for 35 hours?
• 1:40:57
  That alone would drive me insane.
• 1:40:59
  Right, but it would also get you a hefty fine in New York.
• 1:41:04
  New York is cracking down on loud exhaust because they've got the, the straight
• 1:41:09
  pipe, people were straight piping their cars, cutting out the mufflers and cutting
• 1:41:13
  out the, uh, the catalytic converters.
• 1:41:15
  You know, and straight piping their cars to sound like gunshots and it's
• 1:41:19
  dangerous around the city of New York and pedestrians and all the homeowners
• 1:41:23
  there are so scared of these cars.
• 1:41:25
  It sounds so terrible.
• 1:41:26
  So New York is fining people for loud exhaust aftermarket exhaust thousand
• 1:41:31
  dollars if they don't impound your car.
• 1:41:33
  Well, they also said that because of lockdowns and because people being
• 1:41:36
  bored, there were people street racing down the streets and very
• 1:41:39
  loud cars, which was disruptive.
• 1:41:42
  Now I get.
• 1:41:43
  Their civil liberties get their feelings hurt and they should be allowed to
• 1:41:48
  have as loud a car as they want.
• 1:41:50
  But sometimes when you go home and you're done dealing with the BS and stupidity
• 1:41:56
  of people, you want to retire to your home in silence and peace and not.
• 1:42:01
  Have morons doing burnouts at 2 a.
• 1:42:04
  m.
• 1:42:05
  waking you up in the middle of the night.
• 1:42:06
  All right.
• 1:42:06
  But if there are more on street racing and doing burnouts at 2 a.
• 1:42:10
  m., their exhaust is not the problem.
• 1:42:12
  The problem is that they're doing burnouts and street racing at 2 in the morning.
• 1:42:16
  We're avoiding the fact that this is all, I'm not going to say all,
• 1:42:20
  it's probably 90 percent Mark 7 and Mark 8 GTI owners, right?
• 1:42:25
  That all sound like gunshots because do you know any other car that has
• 1:42:29
  that stupid feature that you can do it from idle and everything.
• 1:42:33
  It's like every third freaking video on TikTok is some GTI
• 1:42:39
  making that sound all the time.
• 1:42:41
  It tries to be nuts.
• 1:42:42
  It doesn't, we don't need that.
• 1:42:43
  It feels like it's all vague products to me, but you know what
• 1:42:46
  I'm, I'm hating on my own kind, but I think they sound like shit.
• 1:42:50
  I'm just going to be totally upfront about it.
• 1:42:53
  Speaking of stupidity on roads, if they're not making noise,
• 1:42:57
  What's happening on 395 lately?
• 1:42:59
  They're driving backwards.
• 1:43:01
  Wait, what?
• 1:43:02
  You heard that right.
• 1:43:02
  To avoid traffic jams, people are driving backwards.
• 1:43:05
  So they're reversing on 395 in D.
• 1:43:08
  C.
• 1:43:08
  and Northern Virginia.
• 1:43:10
  To go where?
• 1:43:11
  Because they missed their exit.
• 1:43:12
  Into another traffic jam.
• 1:43:13
  To go back the, you have to go back to the previous exit that they passed.
• 1:43:16
  So you're driving through a traffic jam, so that would imply cars in front of you.
• 1:43:23
  Cars beside you, cars behind you.
• 1:43:26
  No, they see the traffic jam ahead.
• 1:43:29
  So they put it in reverse, then go the wrong way.
• 1:43:33
  At speed, which your automatic won't let you do.
• 1:43:38
  Okay.
• 1:43:39
  So they slam on their brakes, come to a stop, quickly thrown in reverse.
• 1:43:43
  They get the arm over the seat, rest or a backup camera.
• 1:43:47
  Nobody does that anymore.
• 1:43:49
  Boomer back.
• 1:43:50
  Okay.
• 1:43:51
  So two hands on the wheel backup camera.
• 1:43:54
  Steering left and right because they don't know which way the
• 1:43:57
  car turns when it's in reverse, which way the steering wheel goes.
• 1:44:00
  So they're confused.
• 1:44:01
  They're slaloming to get to the exit ramp so that they can back
• 1:44:04
  down the wrong way on an exit ramp.
• 1:44:06
  So the public service announcement here is they may have changed the laws
• 1:44:10
  about driving on the shoulder, but it is still illegal to back up on the
• 1:44:14
  highway and then take an exit ramp.
• 1:44:17
  Oh, they're on the shoulder doing this.
• 1:44:19
  I thought they were in the lanes of traffic.
• 1:44:22
  They're in the lanes.
• 1:44:23
  Oh, there are the lanes?
• 1:44:24
  I understood it as backing up the shoulder, which is
• 1:44:26
  technically illegal, but whatever.
• 1:44:28
  Backing up anywhere is illegal, unless it's into a space or your driveway.
• 1:44:35
  It's illegal to do on a public road.
• 1:44:37
  You know what could be causing these traffic jams?
• 1:44:40
  Forcing people to back up on 395 and take an exit ramp?
• 1:44:43
  What?
• 1:44:44
  Florida, man.
• 1:44:45
  A Florida man tractor trailer driver, uh, not adhering to the clearance restrictions
• 1:44:51
  for the bridge he's about to drive under.
• 1:44:53
  That never happens.
• 1:44:55
  That didn't happen and a bridge didn't shift in Georgia.
• 1:45:00
  Well, in this particular case, it happened to be an Amazon semi
• 1:45:02
  truck and now explains why my package has been marked lost.
• 1:45:06
  So I was just trying to like, You know, pull back the top of the truck so you
• 1:45:11
  could access the packages quicker.
• 1:45:14
  Like Santa Claus, just throw them out there.
• 1:45:17
  He's just opening the can.
• 1:45:19
  Which is literally what it looks like.
• 1:45:20
  Now this next one made me smile and it's just so Italian.
• 1:45:25
  Why not?
• 1:45:26
  A car that has not moved in 47 years.
• 1:45:29
  It has earned its right to become a monument.
• 1:45:33
  Just like all the other piles of rock that are left randomly in places.
• 1:45:38
  I love the fact that this gentleman, Angelo, who is now 94 years old,
• 1:45:43
  parked his car in front of his house in 1974 and has never driven it since.
• 1:45:48
  Damn, that's awesome.
• 1:45:50
  You know why he's never driven it?
• 1:45:51
  Because it's a Lancia.
• 1:45:52
  It is a 62 Fulvia.
• 1:45:54
  It is a car that is slightly sought after, even though it is
• 1:45:56
  kind of boxy and utilitarian, but I just think it's hilarious.
• 1:46:00
  And you know what?
• 1:46:01
  The next time over in Italy, I'm going to go get my picture
• 1:46:03
  taken with this new monument.
• 1:46:05
  And this is a monument to petrolheads.
• 1:46:07
  This is awesome.
• 1:46:08
  So what does this monument say about petrol heads?
• 1:46:10
  So the fact that it hasn't moved in 47 years, Hey, it ran and drove when it
• 1:46:16
  was I know what I have no low balls.
• 1:46:20
  So there was some rumors that Brad Pitt was going to be making some sort of
• 1:46:26
  formula one movie and that, you know, Oh, maybe Lewis Hamilton was going to Or
• 1:46:31
  somehow consult on it or something like that, you know, it was all very fresh at
• 1:46:36
  the time, but as the weeks go by, we're getting a little bit more information.
• 1:46:39
  And now we're learning that apple.
• 1:46:42
  So, I guess this will end up on apple TV.
• 1:46:44
  Apple and Brad Pitt are working together on this project.
• 1:46:47
  Formula one kind of inspired drama.
• 1:46:50
  When this was first announced, I actually made the comment.
• 1:46:55
  What is this just going to be driven with formula one cars, which was that
• 1:46:58
  Stavuster saloon, hot trash movie, where they were driving Indy cars
• 1:47:03
  around whatever the hell city it was, which allegedly I think that movie was
• 1:47:06
  originally supposed to be formula one car.
• 1:47:08
  So we're finally making the movie we intended to make back then,
• 1:47:12
  but with Brad Pitt starring in it.
• 1:47:13
  So we know it's just going to be.
• 1:47:16
  No, I'm always down for a car movie, good, bad, or whatever.
• 1:47:20
  I mean, we've started an entire sub show of break fix where
• 1:47:25
  we review bad car movies.
• 1:47:27
  So I'm going to add this to our list when it comes out.
• 1:47:31
  It'll be interesting to see as this progresses and we learn more, what
• 1:47:35
  exactly it's going to develop into.
• 1:47:36
  It's not looking, I feel like it should be Tom Cruise.
• 1:47:40
  Wait, we already did that movie too.
• 1:47:42
  I feel like this is going to be Troy with helmets.
• 1:47:44
  That's what this is going to be.
• 1:47:46
  Can Eric Bana play the bad guy?
• 1:47:48
  At least he's a car guy.
• 1:47:49
  So this last one is pretty interesting.
• 1:47:53
  I think speaks very badly for humans because when you're goldfish.
• 1:47:59
  can successfully drive its fishbowl tank, and you can't even navigate to the
• 1:48:04
  grocery store without hitting something.
• 1:48:06
  I think we need to reassess ourselves.
• 1:48:10
  I am so confused by all of this.
• 1:48:13
  Scientists trained a goldfish to drive a fish operated vehicle,
• 1:48:18
  which was their little fishbowl on like wheels, essentially.
• 1:48:24
  This is Life Aquatic.
• 1:48:26
  When does Bill Murray pop out?
• 1:48:28
  But they tested this in different ways to see if it was like the fish just picked
• 1:48:32
  up the routine because I don't know, like where the fish looked is where it went.
• 1:48:37
  It's fish bowl drove apparently.
• 1:48:39
  And so I think they did something with like colored lights on the ground.
• 1:48:42
  And, and so they were trying to get the fish to go somewhere
• 1:48:45
  and the fish followed the route.
• 1:48:47
  And if they changed the route.
• 1:48:49
  It followed the route, it understood the directions and could do it.
• 1:48:53
  It wasn't just like, Oh, it did it once.
• 1:48:55
  And it just kept doing the same thing over again.
• 1:48:56
  So I can destroy this whole grossly overpaid government grant in one move.
• 1:49:03
  All I need to do is put a plastic castle in the middle of wherever this thing is.
• 1:49:09
  And suddenly you will see that goldfish just doing doughnuts.
• 1:49:13
  No, but what's that?
• 1:49:14
  Interesting, though, and fascinating to learn more about.
• 1:49:18
  I didn't know that a goldfish's vision was that great.
• 1:49:21
  And now consider the fact that it's seeing everything so bizarrely twisted
• 1:49:26
  through the water and then the glass bowl and the surface reflections and
• 1:49:31
  the curvature, but it could drive its fishbowl successfully to its destination.
• 1:49:37
  I mean, do you remember Drew Carey's glasses from the Drew
• 1:49:40
  Carey show back in the day?
• 1:49:41
  I mean, that's probably the equivalent, right?
• 1:49:43
  He's allowed to drive a car.
• 1:49:48
  In his defense, he has gotten laser, but oh, wow.
• 1:49:51
  Yeah.
• 1:49:52
  Anyway, these are what some scientists are doing lately, getting
• 1:49:55
  fish to drive their fish holes.
• 1:49:57
  Oh, you're tax dollars at work.
• 1:49:59
  And that is why COVID is still a thing.
• 1:50:04
  Speaking of both of those things, because we're teaching fish to drive.
• 1:50:07
  I mean, speaking of both of those things, your tax dollars
• 1:50:13
  at work and COVID being a thing.
• 1:50:15
  Why don't we talk about Florida main stories while we're at it?
• 1:50:19
  We don't have any rich people doing rich people things this time.
• 1:50:24
  Because that razor scooter hasn't gone into production yet.
• 1:50:29
  Actually, I would say the Dimitri Mazepin buys son new F1 chassis kind of qualifies
• 1:50:35
  for rich people doing rich people things.
• 1:50:37
  You know, you're right about that.
• 1:50:39
  You are absolutely right about that.
• 1:50:42
  You can beat with his own teammate.
• 1:50:45
  Terrible.
• 1:50:47
  I mean, it's about as terrible as this limousine.
• 1:50:49
  This record setting 100 foot long Cadillac limousine is the world's largest limo,
• 1:50:54
  and it is in the hands of a Florida man, and it is currently being restored.
• 1:50:58
  Yeah, it's bonkers.
• 1:50:59
  It's got a helicopter on the back.
• 1:51:02
  So I quickly lost interest in that when I saw that there was a Ferrari.
• 1:51:06
  F40 with 10 wheels.
• 1:51:09
  Yeah, that's way cooler.
• 1:51:11
  An eight seater, and I'm like, why?
• 1:51:13
  That's actually a Fiero, don't even go there.
• 1:51:16
  It's made to look like a, I mean, the frickin Ferrari symbol's like
• 1:51:18
  three feet long on the hood, I mean.
• 1:51:21
  And then there's that double wide, I don't even know what that thing
• 1:51:24
  is, it's like two cars conjoined twins together, and it's got like
• 1:51:27
  a swimming pool in the back, and.
• 1:51:29
  This is all stuff I would see in the kids.
• 1:51:33
  Part of Hershey park, like they all look like amusement park rides.
• 1:51:37
  I mean, they're just, they're insane.
• 1:51:39
  Where did these come from?
• 1:51:40
  Like, I'm disappointed that the article didn't explain like the
• 1:51:43
  history of these bizarre cars that apparently were on display somewhere
• 1:51:50
  because there's like, even fricking like the American dream, Jay.
• 1:51:54
  Orberg Star Cars, Hollywood, California.
• 1:51:57
  What?
• 1:51:58
  There's even like a model that like stands in front of them and stuff.
• 1:52:02
  I think my favorite though is the Pepto Pink Mercedes with the
• 1:52:06
  heart shaped hot tub in the trunk.
• 1:52:08
  That thing is legit awesome.
• 1:52:11
  Although I'm easily distracted and there was a Haggerty ad with a Corrado
• 1:52:14
  on it, so I clicked on that and I kind of moved on from this pretty quickly.
• 1:52:18
  Wanted to see what that was all about.
• 1:52:20
  So what else is going on in Florida?
• 1:52:22
  Moving on, so.
• 1:52:24
  We're in Florida again, of course.
• 1:52:25
  Now say you get into, I don't know, a little parking dispute.
• 1:52:29
  You're angry at your neighbor's parking habits.
• 1:52:32
  It's happened to all of us, right?
• 1:52:34
  Sometimes you're just like, who is this joker parking their car in
• 1:52:37
  front of my property, even though I don't own the street there, I
• 1:52:39
  don't want your car parked in front.
• 1:52:41
  How would you, as a normal person, as a non Floridian, handle that?
• 1:52:46
  I'd piss and moan and stomp my feet and do nothing about it.
• 1:52:50
  Nunchucks.
• 1:52:51
  Have you thought about a flamethrower?
• 1:52:54
  Damn.
• 1:52:55
  Is this guy Charles Bronson?
• 1:52:58
  He's Andre something.
• 1:53:00
  And he decided to get himself three counts of felony aggravated assault
• 1:53:05
  with a deadly weapon with intention to kill as he brandished the flames from
• 1:53:12
  the flame thrower at his neighbors who parked in front of his house.
• 1:53:17
  Was the neighbor in the vehicle at the time of the offense?
• 1:53:21
  Yes, unfortunately.
• 1:53:22
  Oh, okay.
• 1:53:23
  They were like teenagers getting out of the car and he like turned
• 1:53:26
  the flamethrower on on them.
• 1:53:28
  That is This is like the ultimate get off my lawn.
• 1:53:31
  That's some buck wild manure right there.
• 1:53:35
  Wow.
• 1:53:36
  That is, that's intense.
• 1:53:38
  He denies of course targeting them, but.
• 1:53:40
  Don't park in front of my house.
• 1:53:42
  The char marks on the side of the car weren't evidence
• 1:53:45
  enough of this, of the assault.
• 1:53:48
  They said they wanted to add.
• 1:53:50
  These Florida man stories play out like people's court.
• 1:53:53
  Also in Florida.
• 1:53:54
  So I think too many Fast and the Furious movies, too many of these,
• 1:53:57
  uh, what was the other one with Statham with the transporter movies?
• 1:54:01
  Drives the Audi out of the parking garage and all that stuff.
• 1:54:04
  Well, for reasons unbeknownst, somebody drove off an eight story parking garage.
• 1:54:10
  Yes!
• 1:54:11
  How did that end?
• 1:54:13
  You know what?
• 1:54:14
  He lived.
• 1:54:15
  Don't know why his 2015 Ford Explorer.
• 1:54:18
  It's always a Ford, isn't it?
• 1:54:20
  Apparently it was like in the middle of the afternoon and it happened
• 1:54:24
  to like, I don't know, it landed upside down, was caught in like a
• 1:54:28
  cable was also like hanging off.
• 1:54:30
  Maybe that helped smooth the impact.
• 1:54:32
  Yeah.
• 1:54:32
  No real explanation.
• 1:54:34
  I don't think drugs is the explanation probably because.
• 1:54:38
  Flew off a building, landed upside down, he got out of the car and ran.
• 1:54:44
  Two blocks.
• 1:54:45
  Is this the automotive equivalent of when people throw shoes on the power lines?
• 1:54:49
  Like you just throw your car on the power lines?
• 1:54:51
  Looking at this car, how the hell did he get out of it?
• 1:54:54
  I don't know how he survived.
• 1:54:57
  I love his wheel studs.
• 1:54:59
  They're like three inch long spikes.
• 1:55:01
  Boat a seer spikes.
• 1:55:03
  Right.
• 1:55:03
  I noticed those the first time.
• 1:55:05
  I mean, good on him that he survived.
• 1:55:07
  Who knows what that story is, but only in Florida.
• 1:55:09
  I don't think good on him.
• 1:55:10
  It was a failed suicide attempt.
• 1:55:12
  That's what that was.
• 1:55:13
  Oh, I hope not.
• 1:55:15
  Well, you wouldn't have gotten out and ran.
• 1:55:17
  Physics people, physics, pay attention.
• 1:55:20
  Well, they've, they've definitely beefed up that rollover capability of
• 1:55:24
  the Ford Explorers, if nothing else.
• 1:55:26
  Stealing cars, not a good thing, shouldn't do this, right?
• 1:55:28
  Everyone has their own way of doing it.
• 1:55:31
  I think we talked about the guys that went with a front loader, forklift,
• 1:55:35
  steal motorcycles or something, right?
• 1:55:38
  And then drove whatever it was, cross railroad tracks on it.
• 1:55:41
  And it's always ballsy when they're stealing them from dealerships, right?
• 1:55:44
  Versus parking lot or something like that.
• 1:55:47
  What if you went to the dealership to steal the car naked?
• 1:55:53
  This brings us to our sub segment of Florida Man.
• 1:55:57
  It's naked Florida Man.
• 1:56:00
  You know, he just somehow was there naked at the dealership, got into a
• 1:56:05
  2021 Ram truck that was in a painting booth, acted out, and drove it off.
• 1:56:11
  I mean, if I was the sales guy and it was a Dodge Dart, I would
• 1:56:14
  have just given him the keys.
• 1:56:15
  I'm like, man, you really need this.
• 1:56:19
  You really need to go away.
• 1:56:21
  He stole it out of the paint booth.
• 1:56:24
  Was it his own truck?
• 1:56:26
  Was he stealing it back?
• 1:56:28
  Like that guy from New Jersey who came out running with the guns naked.
• 1:56:31
  There's a picture of this guy.
• 1:56:33
  Clothed or not clothed.
• 1:56:35
  To answer everybody's question.
• 1:56:37
  drugs.
• 1:56:38
  It's always Florida man, right?
• 1:56:40
  We give the Florida man a hard time.
• 1:56:42
  Then that's not fair to spread the joy a little bit here.
• 1:56:45
  And to be fair, how about Florida woman?
• 1:56:48
  And how about a Florida woman leading police on a wild golf course chase?
• 1:56:54
  And not in a golf cart.
• 1:56:55
  Oh?
• 1:56:56
  No, in an SUV.
• 1:56:58
  Looks like a Toyota 4Runner.
• 1:57:00
  It does look like a Toyota 4Runner.
• 1:57:01
  It doesn't say what it is, but it does look like a 4Runner.
• 1:57:04
  So something of that nature.
• 1:57:06
  She's doing a little off road.
• 1:57:07
  She looks like when Lieutenant Weigel from Reno 911 does the prostitute bit.
• 1:57:13
  Like, I don't, what is this outfit?
• 1:57:16
  Take a look at it, and that, you don't even need to talk anymore.
• 1:57:19
  What is she wearing?
• 1:57:21
  She looks drugs again and she led a police chase on a golf course in not a golf cart.
• 1:57:27
  This just hurts so much.
• 1:57:30
  Watch out Florida man, Florida woman.
• 1:57:32
  I will say that's the most off roading that that Toyota
• 1:57:35
  has done in its entire life.
• 1:57:37
  So there you go.
• 1:57:38
  Round out the women here a little bit.
• 1:57:40
  Texarkana or Texarkana.
• 1:57:44
  This woman in her Camaro, this orange Camaro with black stripes, these are
• 1:57:48
  important details, was stopped for, I think, something minor, so to speak.
• 1:57:55
  Felony forgery charge, not minor, but minor compared to how this turned out.
• 1:58:00
  One could argue.
• 1:58:01
  Relatively speaking, so she's pulled over resisting arrest.
• 1:58:04
  She doesn't turn her car off, which you're supposed to do when you're pulled over.
• 1:58:07
  She locked herself in her car, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:58:10
  Cops come up, you know, get out of the car.
• 1:58:12
  No, no, no.
• 1:58:13
  The police officer being savvy as he was pulled out some spike strip, put it down.
• 1:58:18
  Presumably in, I don't know where in front of his cruiser.
• 1:58:21
  As he's going back to his car to do whatever, and then she decides she's
• 1:58:25
  going to make her break, reverses the Camaro into his cruiser enough, or at
• 1:58:31
  least wherever he put, maybe he put the spikes directly behind her car.
• 1:58:34
  She blows out three of the four tires on the Camaro, but
• 1:58:38
  this does not stop the Camaro.
• 1:58:39
  This does not stop whatever tires were put on this car from the factory.
• 1:58:43
  So props to those tires, because she proceeds to get on the highway
• 1:58:48
  going a hundred miles an hour.
• 1:58:50
  with three spike strip blown out tires and one good tire till eventually
• 1:58:56
  she exits the highway the car becomes disabled presumably the tires are by on
• 1:59:02
  star three and a gas she's on the side of the interstate when they catch up
• 1:59:08
  to her her foot planted as the article says Her foot planted firmly on the
• 1:59:13
  accelerator as the wheel spun uselessly.
• 1:59:18
  What did she break?
• 1:59:20
  All of it.
• 1:59:21
  So not only does she have the felony forgery charge, she also had
• 1:59:25
  evading arrest and resisting arrest.
• 1:59:27
  So good on you.
• 1:59:29
  All of the fun facts and figures, the super fun facts of this article, are
• 1:59:35
  all negated once you reach The comment section of the article, which I will not
• 1:59:40
  repeat any of them, except for maybe one.
• 1:59:43
  I mean, the one that got me though, is the guy who says I'd buy that
• 1:59:48
  car from salvage, fix it up and park it in front of the jail.
• 1:59:52
  Oh my dude.
• 1:59:55
  They're, they're pretty, they're pretty rough.
• 2:00:01
  You know, I had not looked at them.
• 2:00:02
  You will be in tears.
• 2:00:04
  And for anybody that wants to see them, they'll be in the show
• 2:00:06
  notes when you click on there.
• 2:00:07
  Well, we will end Florida man on a good note, which we normally do.
• 2:00:14
  You know, this is a good hearted Florida man.
• 2:00:16
  And I'm not saying that in any way that this is going to turn funny, but,
• 2:00:20
  you know, back in December or whenever it was those horrible tornadoes that.
• 2:00:24
  Level parts of Kentucky, this Florida man with his tractor trailer was taking
• 2:00:29
  donations, filling up his truck with food items and other necessities.
• 2:00:34
  And he was going to drive all the way up from Florida to those
• 2:00:37
  folks in need and deliver all those items before Christmas time.
• 2:00:41
  So look at that nice heartwarming.
• 2:00:43
  That is awesome.
• 2:00:44
  Round of applause for that Florida, man.
• 2:00:46
  Good job.
• 2:00:46
  Thank you.
• 2:00:47
  Thank you for redeeming.
• 2:00:48
  All the previous sins of the year, you, sir, are a saint.
• 2:00:54
  Well, I guess it's time for us to go behind the wall and quickly
• 2:00:58
  talk about motorsports news.
• 2:00:59
  The racing season ends for us here locally.
• 2:01:03
  Usually around the late October, early November timeframe, but in other parts
• 2:01:07
  of the world where there's lots of sand and no ocean, you know, they're still
• 2:01:10
  running formula one races and, you know, Dakar and all this other kinds of stuff.
• 2:01:14
  And so there's always little tidbits of news here and there,
• 2:01:17
  but as we lead into the opening.
• 2:01:19
  Of the next racing season, which Rolex is right around the corner, January 29th and
• 2:01:24
  30th weekend here in Florida yet again.
• 2:01:27
  So maybe some interesting Florida stories, the news from the NASCAR world is Jacques
• 2:01:33
  Villeneuve, former Formula One champ and IndyCar 500 champ is going to make a run.
• 2:01:39
  At the Daytona 500, which is coming up after Rolex.
• 2:01:44
  So curious to see how that turns out.
• 2:01:45
  I mean, he's basically kind of coming out of retirement to go run in NASCAR.
• 2:01:49
  I mean, yay.
• 2:01:51
  Cool.
• 2:01:52
  So let's talk a little bit about open wheel news.
• 2:01:54
  What's hot and what's not.
• 2:01:56
  An IndyCard Formula One.
• 2:01:57
  What's not hot is that Williams died.
• 2:02:01
  Frank Williams, the, uh, I guess the team founder for the Williams F1 team.
• 2:02:06
  He passed away at age 79.
• 2:02:08
  His daughter was, I think it was daughter or granddaughter, was
• 2:02:12
  running the team and knowing the team.
• 2:02:13
  And I think the Williams team sold last year.
• 2:02:16
  To an investment firm, Doralton capital.
• 2:02:20
  And they're still going to be the back marker is back marker team
• 2:02:23
  of all the formula one, right?
• 2:02:25
  Well, they're going to have some competition with Haas.
• 2:02:27
  I was going to say, they've been doing pretty well, but also they're
• 2:02:32
  losing George Russell because George Russell is going to be Lewis Hamilton's
• 2:02:36
  teammate for the coming season.
• 2:02:38
  So they've got the new.
• 2:02:40
  I think they're the ones with the new Chinese driver from Formula
• 2:02:43
  2 that's, that's moving up.
• 2:02:45
  So who knows?
• 2:02:46
  They'll be battling for worst five.
• 2:02:49
  But there's other sad news in Formula 1.
• 2:02:51
  The king has been dethroned.
• 2:02:54
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:02:56
  Lewis Hamilton lost.
• 2:02:58
  He is no longer the reigning champion that title has gone to Max Verstappen
• 2:03:03
  due to some late lap final race heroics on his part was a complete farce.
• 2:03:09
  And I mean, whoever camp you're in, you're not completely happy, I guess,
• 2:03:14
  unless you're a Max Verstappen fan, but whatever Daniel Riccardo want to, want
• 2:03:19
  to let race this year, so I'm happy.
• 2:03:21
  Any podium.
• 2:03:22
  Yeah.
• 2:03:23
  And I mean, there's lots of memes and lots of stuff.
• 2:03:25
  I mean, people are even posting about, Hey, don't forget about science.
• 2:03:28
  You know, you had a great year despite all the drama that's going on.
• 2:03:31
  So I don't know, maybe I'll pay attention next year.
• 2:03:35
  You don't have to convince me.
• 2:03:37
  If you're looking to pay attention this year, coming up, you would
• 2:03:40
  like to know that come February, the team started unveiling their
• 2:03:43
  new cars for the 2022 season.
• 2:03:45
  So the schedule goes Aston Martin's first on February 10th, then
• 2:03:49
  McLaren on February 11th for our.
• 2:03:52
  Is the 17th and then Al Alpha Romeo is to be announced along with everybody else.
• 2:03:56
  Alpha, sorry, Alpine, Alpine, Haas, Mercedes, red Bull.
• 2:04:00
  They're all, you know, after those dates.
• 2:04:02
  So once I see the first one, I'm good.
• 2:04:04
  Right.
• 2:04:04
  Basically, yeah.
• 2:04:05
  All the cars are, because of the new regulations and everything, all the cars
• 2:04:09
  are, should be very close to each other.
• 2:04:10
  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And I'm sure there's silliness and chicanery about all of them
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  that, you know, ridiculous wings and all that kind of stuff.
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  If you watch Aston, the Aston Martin, then it's going to be the
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  exact same car as the Mercedes.
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  Cause that's what they got in trouble for.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  I just wish formula one would go back to the old days where they could build their
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  own chassis and their own bodies and do their own engines and be all over the map.
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  I mean, I just feel like.
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  You know, it's like, I rock, they're all in little go karts and they're
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  all the same and, you know, change the paint color from red to Pepto to green.
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  And you call them a different team.
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  It's basically the NASCAR of the open wheel world.
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  Oh, wait.
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  Yeah.
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  Nevermind.
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  Cause some people were saying for a while there, you know, IndyCar
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  was the hottest thing on TV.
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  It the racing to watch and still have a hard time believing that.
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  I still think IMSA is.
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  Is the way to go.
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  It's some of the best racing.
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  I mean, outside of a race, like the mid 400, you know, and some of those big
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  off-road races where you can get really close to the trucks and the drivers.
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  IMSA is the same way.
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  There's just this 10 foot pole between us, the fans, and the racing itself.
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  And it feels too marketing heavy and just, it's too much of a circus.
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  And I don't know, it's, it's kind of turned me off.
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  I mean, granted in the WRC world, you can't get close anymore, you know, because
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  of the deaths and the safety and all that.
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  And it's still, they're just.
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  Bonkers.
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  WRC is absolutely nuts.
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  I got to tune in because Finland and on all those big races in
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  Sweden and whatnot are happening now here in the middle of winter.
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  So I'm looking forward to WRC season kicking off, you know,
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  tuning into Red Bulls coverage.
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  They do an excellent job for those that are probably gonna work.
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  And I watch a rally race.
• 2:05:44
  I've said it time and time again, Red Bull TV for free in 4k.
• 2:05:48
  Check it out.
• 2:05:49
  There is some exciting news coming for IMSA.
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  And that would be that the pony wars kick off again in 2024.
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  So team Corvette versus Ford.
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  I mean, they've had it rumored for a while that with these reclassings, they're
• 2:06:03
  going to be able to merge GT four cars and et cetera, into the IMSA series.
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  So it'd be cool to see Corvettes go against Mustangs.
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  Although that's kind of like apples and chainsaws, in my opinion,
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  should be Camaro's yeah, for Mustangs and Camaros for sure.
• 2:06:17
  I would love to see return of the Ford GT, but that's not on the
• 2:06:20
  horizon anytime soon, at least not from the news that we're seeing.
• 2:06:24
  So curious to see where that goes, but I feel like it's a day late and a
• 2:06:28
  dollar short, like all the big names are showing up for the hundredth.
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  They're all showing up for 23 Ford.
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  What are you waiting for?
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  You know, put a car in GT three or, or GTLM or, or whatever.
• 2:06:38
  Whatever it is now and go for it.
• 2:06:40
  I mean, what, what are they waiting for?
• 2:06:42
  You know, I'm holding out hope like much like the reveal of the four of the
• 2:06:47
  most recent Ford GT, it was a complete surprise, nobody knew it was coming.
• 2:06:51
  I wouldn't be surprised if they do something like that for Lamar.
• 2:06:55
  Then 2023.
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  Yeah, but this is saying 2024.
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  That's too late.
• 2:06:58
  Nobody cares, right?
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  I mean, the hundred and first is just as important as the hundredth, but you
• 2:07:03
  know, whatever, but let's talk about other firsts as in the 61st running of Rolex.
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  Uh, they say it's going to be the biggest field in years.
• 2:07:11
  There's currently 60 cars on the roster.
• 2:07:14
  I mean, it's a good round number.
• 2:07:15
  It's better than previous years.
• 2:07:16
  It's been kind of want, want, I mean, I watch Rolex religiously along with little
• 2:07:20
  moms and the petite and things like that.
• 2:07:23
  It's been a bit of a bummer when, you know, you do look at the GTL
• 2:07:26
  unfilled, especially in Porsche's pulled out and so on and so forth,
• 2:07:29
  and it's just Corvette running around.
• 2:07:30
  So to see more cars in there is great.
• 2:07:33
  When I looked at the field and I'm like, LMP three, and I'm like, yeah,
• 2:07:37
  just so we need, you know, more cookie cutter LMP cars, but you
• 2:07:40
  know, I'm still going to watch it.
• 2:07:41
  It's still going to be entertaining.
• 2:07:43
  And, uh, we have some really cool things planned for that weekend.
• 2:07:46
  So stay tuned for more news on that.
• 2:07:48
  And in the virtual world, there's been some big news, a bit of a shake up there.
• 2:07:52
  iRacing has always been kind of off on its own, doing its own thing,
• 2:07:56
  you know, keeping up those Xbox 360 graphics that it's known for.
• 2:08:00
  And they made an announcement recently that they bought Monster Games.
• 2:08:04
  Teasing that they're going to make things that are more appealing
• 2:08:08
  to a broader market like console.
• 2:08:10
  So you might see things like iRacing come to your PS5 or your Xbox series
• 2:08:15
  X that you can't buy in stores.
• 2:08:17
  I'm actually really happy about this because I do think that as good as
• 2:08:22
  iRacing is, it needs influence from some other parties that can bring
• 2:08:27
  higher quality graphics and things like that to the platform, better UI.
• 2:08:31
  I mean, everything feels.
• 2:08:33
  I hate to say kind of kludgy and, and really dated, you know, when you look
• 2:08:37
  at it, it doesn't have that fresh look that like a Codemasters platform
• 2:08:40
  has or Forza or something like that.
• 2:08:43
  So they definitely need a facelift.
• 2:08:44
  The physics engine is good, but they could do with a little bit of help.
• 2:08:47
  So switching gears really quick to local news.
• 2:08:50
  Uh, as I mentioned, Rolex is coming up here the weekend of January 29th and 30th.
• 2:08:54
  It's the 61st running.
• 2:08:55
  And because of everything that's going on in the world these days, it still seems
• 2:09:00
  we're a little bit hot and cold on COVID.
• 2:09:03
  We've decided that instead of holding our traditional Rolex viewing party,
• 2:09:06
  which is usually hosted by Brad and his lovely wife, we're going to go back
• 2:09:10
  to virtual this year and we're going to make it an action packed weekend.
• 2:09:13
  So if you go to our website and you look at club events and click on the Rolex
• 2:09:18
  24 hours weekend, you'll see that we've packed in there several virtual races.
• 2:09:24
  Uh, we're doing awards nights and happy hours viewing parties.
• 2:09:27
  We're even getting together with the folks from garage riot for a
• 2:09:30
  soft Relaunch of their new platform.
• 2:09:33
  Talk about that.
• 2:09:34
  You get to meet Donovan and things like that.
• 2:09:35
  So it's a lot of fun.
• 2:09:36
  We had a lot of things planned for that 24 hour race.
• 2:09:38
  And obviously it's going to be centered around the Rolex.
• 2:09:41
  And so that's a lot of fun.
• 2:09:42
  So look for more details on that.
• 2:09:44
  We're still planning out the rest of the year.
• 2:09:46
  So look forward to events like summer bash and animal house and the cannibal
• 2:09:49
  run and all these kinds of things.
• 2:09:51
  As we look at the.
• 2:09:52
  Bigger schedule.
• 2:09:53
  And we get our information from our friends over at HPD junkie.
• 2:09:57
  com.
• 2:09:58
  So a quick HPD junkie trackside report, you know, what's
• 2:10:01
  coming in February, March.
• 2:10:02
  Well, you know, I caught up with Dave Peters recently.
• 2:10:05
  I spoke to him and he said right now they have over a thousand
• 2:10:08
  events loaded into their system.
• 2:10:10
  And they're looking at nearly doubling that number by the end of January.
• 2:10:14
  So right around Rolex weekend, the database should be fully
• 2:10:16
  loaded and they're capturing events from all across the world.
• 2:10:19
  North America.
• 2:10:20
  So that's the US and Canada combined.
• 2:10:22
  And, you know, all your favorite providers, you know, be it hooked on
• 2:10:25
  driving PCA, AMRA, SCCA, you know, NASA, whoever, all of that information,
• 2:10:29
  all in one spot, you know, search by the date, search by the location
• 2:10:33
  by the provider, and then figure out what your schedule looks like.
• 2:10:36
  So now's a great time to do that.
• 2:10:38
  And just know that they're loading more and more information in there.
• 2:10:40
  And if you're a track event provider and your schedule isn't on HPD junkie.
• 2:10:47
  com, reach out to Dave Peters and get your information out there because there are
• 2:10:51
  so many eyes looking at that site every day, every week, every month to try to
• 2:10:55
  plan out what our calendars look like.
• 2:10:56
  So always a great resource.
• 2:10:58
  We love working with Dave and we look forward to seeing him again
• 2:11:01
  this year at one of the events.
• 2:11:02
  We got together with him at Carolina motor sports park.
• 2:11:05
  So we're hoping to do that again this year.
• 2:11:06
  And in case you missed out, check out the other podcast episodes that aired
• 2:11:10
  earlier this winter, we talked all things BMW with Donovan from garage ride and
• 2:11:14
  James clay from Bimmer world, David L.
• 2:11:16
  Middleton from MIE racing returned to the show.
• 2:11:19
  It introduced us to BTCC pro racer, Rob Holland.
• 2:11:23
  We learned about the oldest off road race in America known as the mint 400.
• 2:11:27
  And our guest Matt Martelli also gave us the inside scoop on Jim
• 2:11:30
  Kana and growing up with Ken Block on our bonus patron, Minnesota.
• 2:11:35
  We went shopping with Heeltread and Petrobox and learned about fire
• 2:11:38
  safety with up and coming brand PMX.
• 2:11:40
  You would be remiss if you missed out on our All Tesla
• 2:11:43
  Retrospective from last month.
• 2:11:45
  We talked collector cars with Chris Bright of Collector Part Exchange, CPX, and
• 2:11:50
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• 2:11:52
  Ugly Cars Patreon re release and stories about The Compound with Nate and Emily.
• 2:11:58
  And finally, we learned about the history and evolution of our
• 2:12:01
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• 2:12:03
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