Latest / The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast / #133: Gill1918 presents Dwight Phillips "Triple Jump Training Part 2" from Tampa Bay/USF Clinic
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- 0:25topic. Now the HAFES, you know, and we
- 0:31look at the high school level, the, the hot phase is normally
- 0:35really big, the step phase is really minuscule and then they
- 0:40have a decent jump phase. Our objective is to maintain the
- 0:45speed within each phase. And obviously the hot phase is
- 0:50going to be one of the the biggest phases because you have
- 0:53the most momentum in that particular phase.
- 0:56So you just want to focus on being just just balanced on the
- 1:01take off. The athlete should aim to be
- 1:03smooth and keep the forward momentum in the triple jump.
- 1:07You don't want your athlete taking off, putting all of that
- 1:11force coming down on the back. Now it's going to go down that
- 1:15kinetic chain and it's going to radiate upwards from that, from
- 1:20the heel to the butt to the back.
- 1:22And we don't want that. So we want to promote flat
- 1:26ground contacts at all time. All right.
- 1:29We don't want to land on the hill, we don't want to land on
- 1:32the toe. We just want a nice firm Dorset
- 1:36flex flat ground contact. So immediately you have to take
- 1:41off the thigh of that take off. Legs should drive forward while
- 1:45the foot comes close to the buttocks.
- 1:48So when the foot is coming closer to the buttocks,
- 1:51basically we just create an angular momentum where it's
- 1:54going to. When you do that initially upon
- 1:57take off, it's going to promote driving that leg up immediately
- 2:01without the athlete having to think about it because that
- 2:04motion is so violent. The anger momentum just takes
- 2:08over. Now the land in preparation, the
- 2:11lower part of the take off that should swing downward and
- 2:15forward to prepare for that ground contact.
- 2:18So after this I promoted some distance 1234.
- 2:23So I like to just try to get as many good ground contacts in as
- 2:28possible. Sometimes we'll do like we'll
- 2:31start it off like let's focus on five ground contacts Week 2.
- 2:36Let's focus on 7 good ground contacts on both your dominant
- 2:41and non dominant leg. So this is going to prepare the
- 2:45athlete to be able to withstand coming with coming down with,
- 2:49you know, 5-10 times your body weight because if you're moving
- 2:52at 10 meters per second and then you have to take off from that,
- 2:57that is a tremendous amount of force.
- 2:59So the athlete needs to be prepared.
- 3:01And for me, I like to start off on the turf or on the grass so
- 3:07the athlete can just get comfortable with going through
- 3:10those continuous movements. And then after that we take them
- 3:16on and we go on to the actual runway and we'll do that just
- 3:21one take off into the sand. So again, you want to emphasize
- 3:26just a flat ground contact all the time.
- 3:29You want that forward posture moving forward and you just want
- 3:33to make sure that you're going to not be leaning forward upon
- 3:37that initial ground contact. So on the grass, you have the
- 3:43athlete accelerate for about 8 to 10 steps, take off in a
- 3:47bounding position with the emphasis on lifting the knee.
- 3:51And this is how we really get that transition from the hop to
- 3:55the step phase, because essentially all the athletes
- 3:58have to do is lift that knee up instead of swinging the leg out.
- 4:03The majority of the high school athletes, especially if they are
- 4:06novice to the event, they're just going to swing that leg out
- 4:10as opposed to coming off of that hop and then swinging through
- 4:14and lifting the knee. So we like doing the speed
- 4:19bounds 8 to 10 steps with a run in just doing alternate
- 4:23contacts. Again, I have to reiterate,
- 4:26posture is very important. Make sure your athlete isn't
- 4:30leaning too far forwards or backwards because bad mechanics
- 4:33will significantly impact the job.
- 4:39OK, so here are the the the transitions by landing on the
- 4:43opposite foot in the swing in motion, the take off angle.
- 4:47This phase requires a lower take off angle.
- 4:50So you don't want your athlete going too high.
- 4:53You don't want that parabolic curve to go up and down because
- 4:56now they're going to lose all of their horizontal momentum.
- 5:00And I think we've all heard the phrase you want to skip like
- 5:04it's like getting a rock and you're skipping it across the
- 5:08river. You want to make sure you have a
- 5:10low trajectory so that it can maintain that speed.
- 5:14The free legs swing, it's a powerful leg swing.
- 5:17It's very it's, it's paramount. The free leg should move from
- 5:22behind the body and finish in a fully extended position just in
- 5:27front of the torso as contact is made with the ground.
- 5:31So that leg is coming up and you're swinging through
- 5:34violently because we understand free reaction and is a equal
- 5:39opposite reaction. So if we attack the ground with
- 5:43some force, that opposite hip is going to follow through.
- 5:50This is it's alternate thrill that it's really good for for
- 5:55note promoting that step phase. And we're just focusing on
- 6:00alternate bounds, trying to spend as much time in the air as
- 6:04possible to also cover as much ground as possible.
- 6:11That is Rojas, this is a beautiful world record holder in
- 6:15the triple jump for the women. Beautiful positioning.
- 6:18You see she has a very neutral foot ready for that flat ground
- 6:23contact. The body is just moving
- 6:25harmoniously. I actually took that picture, so
- 6:29I had to throw it in there. Then I like to do the top step
- 6:35step. I like to incorporate.
- 6:38For me, I, I enjoy incorporating obstacles.
- 6:42So we'll do this again on the early part of the season.
- 6:46We'll incorporate this on the turf or the grass and I like
- 6:49using wickets and I'll spread those.
- 6:53I distribute the wickets to promote them to swing in the
- 6:58right manner to make sure that we're covering the distance and
- 7:02making them really work for the step.
- 7:05Because on the high school level, if we can increase the
- 7:09step phase by 1520%, it's going to pay huge dividends in terms
- 7:15of the overall outcome of the jump.
- 7:21Then the jump phase. The jump phase is the final part
- 7:24of the triple jump sequence, and an athlete should be focused on
- 7:29maintaining that horizontal velocity while using a vertical
- 7:33push from the step phase as the foundation for the lift.
- 7:39The techniques. Some people go with the hang
- 7:42technique upon the last one, like the great Kenny Harrison,
- 7:47and then you have other people you know that go through with
- 7:51the hitch kick motion on the last.
- 7:55But ultimately it's about what's most suitable for the athlete
- 8:00for on a high school level, some of the ladies prefer to do the
- 8:04single, single leg and they just kind of do like a sail
- 8:08technique. I like the sail technique
- 8:11because it takes away a lot of the guesswork and it allows them
- 8:15to just have a more fluid jumping style.
- 8:19I like that for both the men and the women on a high school
- 8:22level. So we also have, like I said,
- 8:31these were some high schoolers I work with to prepare them to
- 8:39promote and to teach them how to execute that step phase with
- 8:46pretty good execution. Go here.
- 8:53Your landing would be determined by how well you execute.
- 8:56You push the frequency in the take off phase as I illustrated
- 9:01earlier with the drills, we have the knee tux, the V UPS, the
- 9:05hanging knee lifts. These are the things that are
- 9:08going to help promote a strong landing and they'll give you
- 9:13just good foundational movements that's going to help the athlete
- 9:16become overall better athlete as well.
- 9:22So the transition from the step to the jump incorporate a drill
- 9:29with the steps, but we do it all out.
- 9:32You have them run and take off a step then.
- 9:37So we'll go through like five of those on our jump days and we
- 9:42have a whole sequence where we just do a hop, then we do a hop
- 9:46step that I've shown you guys on the actual turf.
- 9:50We do a hop step, step and then we do a step to jump transition
- 9:55so that so that we can cover all of the phases so that now when
- 10:00we put it all together from a short run of jump, the athlete
- 10:04will feel comfortable and it will feel more competent.
- 10:07And then you'll get actually more out of the athlete.
- 10:13I love, I love for you cones and barriers for the athletes.
- 10:18So for each phase we'll start off, they'll take the call when
- 10:22they see the cones. So it teaches them how to be
- 10:26more patient in the air. So try to use different
- 10:30obstacles and you can always start from short approach.
- 10:33I prefer to start from teaching young people, even my most
- 10:38advanced athletes, we starting from 4 to 5 steps and we're just
- 10:43scaling it backwards at the athlete becomes more competent
- 10:48and they become more powerful and as they start covering those
- 10:52distances pretty easily. So it looks really easy.
- 11:03So after the athlete begins to execute those movements to that
- 11:08level, now we have a complete athlete like Will Clay, and now
- 11:13it'll just be about refining the smaller nuances that comes with
- 11:18triple jumping. So like yesterday, it's very
- 11:24similar to what the long jump was.
- 11:28I preferred. Like before you actually jump,
- 11:32you have to always run. So running is a foundation of my
- 11:38training system and programming and this is just like a
- 11:41framework. It's not set in stone, but these
- 11:45are some of the things that I include just on a weekly basis
- 11:49and we scale those based on where we are in the season.
- 11:54So this is more from a pre the week of type of competition and
- 12:01and we'll take it from there. But that's the triple jump in
- 12:06the nutshell. I know you guys have a
- 12:07tremendous amount of other speakers going today.
- 12:11I thank you for listening and now we can just open the open it
- 12:16up for a discussion if anybody has any questions any.
- 12:19Questions for Glenny. The list of drills that you had
- 12:25in the beginning, could those be used for both long and triple?
- 12:30Yes, yes, you can use those drills for both long and triple
- 12:33because it promotes active ground contacts and they're
- 12:37building power in a very functional, it's like they're
- 12:40strengthening themselves through a range of motion in a very
- 12:43functional way. So I think that even sprinters
- 12:46should do many of these drills that I included today.
- 12:52When you are teaching sprinters who are not very good.
- 12:56Founders how? Do you cue and teach sprinters?
- 13:03Foot contacts through these drills.
- 13:07Like I said earlier, the hardest thing, even in sprinters, many
- 13:13of the times the athletes will drop the toe, they'll maintain
- 13:18the the dorsiflexion all the way into the very last moment and
- 13:23then they'll allow that toe to drop.
- 13:25So some people don't like to use terminal terminology,
- 13:30dorsiflexion and some just like to use a neutral, just
- 13:34maintaining A neutral ankle. But you still have to have that
- 13:38ankle pretty engaged so that you don't collapse upon ground
- 13:42contact. I like to say flat ground
- 13:46contact. So I start them off by doing
- 13:49very small bounds, just small. I mean, they may be 6 inches
- 13:53apart and we just focusing on landing flat and pushing up
- 13:59vertically. So for the sprinter is the flat
- 14:03ground contact is paramount for them to learn how to Sprint
- 14:08because you don't want them to go toe because then it's going
- 14:11to hit that kinetic chain, it's going to radiate throughout the
- 14:14knee or their ankle or or you know, and it's just not going to
- 14:19be a good situation. So I have to express flat, flat,
- 14:23flat my hand flat. Any other questions?
- 14:30Hey Joanne, how would you? A lot of our jumpers, high
- 14:34school and college, are going to be both dual jumpers, long
- 14:36jumpers and high triple jumpers. How would you coach them
- 14:40differently and how would you manage the two different events?
- 14:43Explain them pretty differently yesterday and today.
- 14:45How would you handle that dual jump?
- 14:47Well, the dual jumpers, like sometimes, some days, it's just
- 14:51contingent upon where you are in the season.
- 14:55So if you're in the fall, I think it's a lot easier to
- 14:58manage because you can have one in the beginning of the week.
- 15:02I prefer to start off with the long jump 1st and then later in
- 15:09the week, you know, let's say Monday, I like doing my
- 15:12approaches and then on Thursday maybe we can include some triple
- 15:18jumps, some four step triple jumps because the approaches may
- 15:23be a little bit similar. It's just depending on what type
- 15:25of athlete you're dealing with. But the setup is going to be the
- 15:29same. The athletes in the long jump
- 15:32may not, may not feel so comfortable taking let's say 18
- 15:37steps in the triple jump, but they'll take 14 steps.
- 15:40So I say throughout the week, if you have a dual jumper, I would
- 15:46do in the beginning of the week, I would have them do long jump.
- 15:51And then towards the end of the week, I have to do triple jump
- 15:54for me, particularly on Thursdays because that'll give
- 15:57you Friday, Saturday and Sunday for the body to rebound from the
- 16:02that arduous ground contact. And during the season now you
- 16:07have to create more of a hybrid type of day during the season.
- 16:11So on that Monday, maybe you do half long jump and half triple
- 16:17jump because you don't want to set the athlete up for failure
- 16:21by giving them too much throughout the week.
- 16:24And now by the time they get to the actual competition, they're
- 16:27toast. So that would be my way of
- 16:30setting it up so we can make sure that the athlete is
- 16:33prepared to be fresh and to jump far during that week of
- 16:37competition. The gentleman from 1080 said
- 16:42that they do over speed bounding with their machine.
- 16:46Do you recommend that as part of your drill, Sir?
- 16:49Triplet. There's no question about it.
- 16:53Back in the day when there wasn't a 1080I used to get a
- 16:57graded heel and I would just do continuous.
- 17:00I had never triple jump. I was always a coach, so to
- 17:04speak. But my first time I did the
- 17:07triple jump in high school, I jumped 47 feet and I was like I
- 17:10said, I didn't necessarily have a high school coach that knew
- 17:15how to teach it. So for me, I was like, well, I'm
- 17:19just going to do alternate bounds downhill and I'm going to
- 17:22do continuous rights down the hill, continuous left down the
- 17:25hill, not knowing that me being able to keep up with the speed
- 17:31of bounding down the hill was doing overspeed training.
- 17:36So I would say with the actual 1080, it would be, I mean, it's
- 17:42the new level of bounding. I think that that's the way that
- 17:46we will defy human limits in that event.
- 17:49Because if you can prepare yourself to jump moving at
- 17:53certain speeds, now you'll be more coordinated and competent
- 17:57and now you actually have to jump.
- 17:59It'll just be seamless and a lot easier.
- 18:02So the answer to that is yes, maybe the speed, you have to
- 18:06start it out slowly and scale it incrementally as the athlete
- 18:10becomes more competent and coordinated.
- 18:12But I think that would be something that you should
- 18:15introduce for a athlete that is beat, not a novice, but they're
- 18:22more on the elite side. Is there a ratio of resisted
- 18:28bounding elements to assisted elements to incorporate
- 18:33basically? To ask.
- 18:35Do you do resisted bounding and assisted bounding on the 1080 or
- 18:39an each similar device? If you do, which do you find
- 18:43more beneficial to? Resisted or the assisted
- 18:45element? I'm a super resistance type of
- 18:48guy. I love resistance, but as an
- 18:53athlete becomes more competent and they can handle that speed,
- 18:56I mean it. It works out astronomically.
- 19:00I think it's a balance of both, and every athlete has their
- 19:04unique things that they need to pay attention to as well.
- 19:11Every athlete is uniquely different.
- 19:13Some athletes may benefit from more of the power where some may
- 19:17need more of those faster ground contacts so they can feel what
- 19:22it feels like when they're actually in the heat of
- 19:24competition. But I think if you merge the
- 19:26two, I think they're equally as important.
- 19:30But it it certainly depends on the athlete.
- 19:32Me as a coach, I incorporate both within my training system.
- 19:41Another question, when teaching triple jump to a new athlete, do
- 19:46you suggest your first phase being their dominant or what
- 19:52they would use for your long jump or they're non dominant?
- 19:58I would say I would start off by like going through the different
- 20:02drills just to see how coordinated they are because
- 20:06many times like I use myself in this example in the long jump, I
- 20:12only can jump off of my right leg.
- 20:16But in high school I jumped 611 in the high jump but I only can
- 20:20do the high jump off of my left leg so sometimes.
- 20:24One leg is just a little bit more coordinated.
- 20:27One leg may be just a little bit more powerful.
- 20:30You have to just be able to use your coaching discretion to
- 20:34determine based on them doing a set of drills which leg is more
- 20:40appropriate for being the the the first phase of the children.
- 20:43John, thank you, thank you, thank you.
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