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Upright Christian Parenting - Treehouse Storytelle... - PT 2: From the Family Table to the Table of Influence | College of the Ozarks · Christian Mix 106 On Demand

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Hey, friends, welcome to season five of Upright Christian Parenting Podcast,
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I'm your host, Hannah Pru, author, homeschool mama, and fellow parent.
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You mentioned the importance of our country.
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Can you, Sue, elaborate on, you know, really your connection to veterans that you guys play?
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Because I, you know, I've watched many of your promo videos.
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I was introduced to you guys, you know, really fully at National Religious Broadcasters
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this year at the veterans lunch that you guys hosted. And, man,
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I think everybody was crying.
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And we were all just so moved by the story that you guys have.
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And I'd love for you to hear. Well, I'm so glad that you asked that question,
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Hannah. So we have five institutional goals, academic, Christian,
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cultural, vocational, and patriotic.
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So our vision statement for the institution is to develop citizens of Christlike
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character who are well-educated, hardworking, and patriotic.
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So you may be wondering, how do we carry out our patriotic goal of our institution?
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And we do it in a variety of ways.
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Every student who comes here takes a patriotic education class their first year.
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They're learning about the branches of government, how a bill becomes a law,
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all the things related to citizenship. They take the citizenship test.
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All of the things related to what it means to be an American citizen and a good one who's engaged.
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We also have a really beautiful patriotic education travel program where over
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the last 15 years, we've taken World War II veterans.
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Veterans from Vietnam, veterans from all the different conflicts that we've been involved in.
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We take veterans paired with two students back to the battlefields where they fought.
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And they get to share their story standing in the field or at the bridge or
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near the water where they came on to land and share their story.
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You talk about life-changing experience from some students who have maybe never
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been on an airplane before.
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And they get to this place and they're hearing from somebody who was there, share their stories.
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We've had students come back and write books that got published.
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We've had students become history teachers. They've just changed their major,
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because the impact was so tremendous.
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And the relationships, if you came to our campus, we have something called Veterans
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Grove at the front of our campus.
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And there's a sugar maple tree planted for every one of the now over 150 veterans
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who have traveled with our students and they bond with their veteran and become
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part of each other's lives.
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It's, it's an incredible thing, but we honor veterans. We recognize special anniversary dates.
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We have a whole Patriots Plaza that's got, um, monuments to the different,
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um, to the different conflicts and the gold star and the POW MIA.
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And so people come here to a college campus and they see the walking out of
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a very healthy patriotism and gratitude.
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And it's really moving for them. And so...
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Those are just some of the ways that we walk out a love of country.
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And as a citizen of Christ's kingdom, first of all, but is of this country,
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how do we engage? How do we earn a place at the table of influence?
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I was talking to a graduate on Friday who's an alderman now for the city of Branson.
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And the impact that his education had on him here that's now impacting in that
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leadership position. So it's a very intentional thing, I will say. It's very intentional.
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And at school at the Ozarks, I'll add this one more thing. We have Founders Friday on Fridays.
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And over the course of their time there, they learn repeatedly about the different
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signers of the Declaration of Independence, the different people who became
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leaders in the faith realm.
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It's a wonderful way, you know, when you think about handing off a baton to
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the next runner, you got to make sure it is firmly in their grasp.
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You cannot assume that your children and grandchildren are going to get it. Yeah, we're only one to,
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freedom, right? We want to make sure that they get it.
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Yeah, that's so good. Well, this is so timely talking about this topic.
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There's so much that you just covered that I'd love to unpack.
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And my husband's a Marine. He's hit 21 years.
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And he just had the grand opportunity. It's just amazing how God orchestrated the timing.
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We didn't think this would happen until the fall, but he just pinned on Lieutenant
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Colonel, um, on the 4th of July on our 250th birthday.
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So I just have to celebrate that with you guys, um, for a moment.
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But so what you guys do is so impactful, um, to our family on a very personal level, because as a.
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You know, a wife of a veteran and having kids, um, that their daddy's a Marine.
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I mean, it is, it is such a big piece of our life and we see it slipping in our culture today.
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You don't see patriotism, um, like we used to.
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Um, and you know, there's, there's two things that you said that I'm sure there's
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a lot of what you said that has slipped, but the two things that jumped out
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to me, um, is that patriotism piece.
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And then the hardworking piece, kids don't know how to work hard.
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And that is such a vital thing that we all as humans, especially,
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you know, going into this world of,
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of AI, you know, there, there's so many huge things of technology that are shifting
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and changing the way that we're functioning, functioning as a society.
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And I think hard work is something that is often missed and we try really hard
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to teach our kids that and I love that that is such a big piece of your education.
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Andrew, what did that look like for you as a student?
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And how do you think that shaped you?
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Yeah. I mean, the, the, the hard work element. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I, um,
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I mean, as Dr. had mentioned, so in my first year in my high school.
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My friend and I, we broke down boxes every day. We would vacuum floors.
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We had custodial responsibilities.
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The rest of my high school career, I think starting my sophomore year,
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some students and I actually started a worship team.
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And it was our responsibility week after week to choose songs to set up lyric
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slides and to lead the school and worship,
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oh musical worship and so that was a gift and then when i went to the college
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um my first year i worked in the pearl rogers dining center on the dining line
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uh and so serving food to students and then uh that was a gift to do,
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and then the rest of my high school The rest of my college career,
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I mean, I worked in the writing center.
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And so, goodness, I think, one, I mean, just in developing a work ethic,
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having to balance your academics with a job, I mean, that's a privilege to get to do.
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I also think of the academic work that I do now with my students,
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my time in the writing center, it prepared me for so much of what I do.
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So, work ethic, developing work experience before you go out into the job market.
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It. Yeah, it's something I'm really thankful for. I think that's really cool.
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Sue, I know you've probably seen countless students.
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I mean, as you're observing, what is one of your favorite things,
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aside from Andrew, because,
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he is very well spotlighted here, but, you know, is there anything as you've
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watched students grow and, you know, kind of define themselves and learn who they are at the school,
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you know, what influences have you seen or what things have you learned along,
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that process of just observing and watching? Yeah.
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Well, I can tell you this.
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There are students here on our campus from kindergarten through college who.
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That I think they are heroic. The reason why is because some of the stories
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that come, so our students are admitted based on need.
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And so 90% of our students roughly have demonstrated financial need in their
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families. And we know there's financial need for lots of reasons, right?
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Maybe you're from a family that has a lot of children. Maybe there's a parent
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who's staying home, farming. Maybe they're an entrepreneur. I mean,
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there's all, maybe you've been in foster care.
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There's all these reasons why students have needs. But when you learn the stories of the students.
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You can't imagine some of the things that they've experienced in their lives.
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Yeah some of them i don't know how they get out of bed every day much less work
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do the work education program go to class,
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and sometimes become leaders on campus yeah it there are walking wounded all
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around us all of us and all of us are wounded yeah but i think if we knew people's stories um.
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Our, our love and admiration for them would probably be much greater than it
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is. And our compassion for them.
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It's not, it's not every story on our campus, but there are some that you, you just can't imagine.
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Yeah. I don't know how.
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I don't know how they do it. Yeah. They do. And here's the great news.
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These thousand acres are a place of transformation. And right,
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you know, when we accept Christ into our lives,
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it should be transformative for us.
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There's a lot of changing family trees here. A lot. And it's really fun.
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It's an honor to get a front row seat to that. It really is.
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I love that. I love the changing family trees.
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From our very first days, America has been driven by the idea that hard work
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could lead us to the life we always envisioned.
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And today, honoring that legacy.
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The opportunities that were out there for me. Our model of providing a Christian
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liberal arts education to those facing economic hardship hasn't wavered since 1906.
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Our students graduate debt-free through our work education program.
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They learn how to live a life guided by their faith.
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And as they begin their careers, they've learned how to take their seat at the
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table of influence and open the door of opportunity for others.
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Being an assistant principal has allowed me to to pour into kids the way that
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people have poured into me and open up doors and opportunities to things that they didn't know.
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That is so awesome. It's just such pivotal work of what you do.
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So we've touched on it a little bit. Tell us a little bit more about,
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you know, you guys had the slogan, hard work you. Tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, that story came from a newspaper article, actually, in the Wall Street
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Journal, where they referred to this small Christian college in the middle of
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the country where students had to work rather than pay.
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And so let me also say that the work covers roughly 30 percent of their cost of education.
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The rest of it is coming from people who love what we do.
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Yeah. And so those are our donors and friends. And the rest of the tuition is
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covered by a tuition assurance scholarship.
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And so we're really grateful to be able to do that and feel humbled by those
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that support what we're doing here.
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So uh but the hard work you story when our um,
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it was in a file when our president our longtime president who retired four
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years ago he was looking in a file and saw this article and thought,
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why aren't we using that slogan it's great and so um he started uh putting it
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everywhere and it's true it is true um but the work has purpose,
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and our students um we have student-made products We have a working dairy.
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We have a working hog farm. We have a meat processing plant.
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We have a landscaping department. We're like a little city here.
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And the students are running most of it. And I also wanted just to emphasize
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that our students who work 15 hours a week at a workstation,
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that as young students is assigned to them, but as they progress in their studies,
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Our dean of work education tries to lead them to areas that would be beneficial
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for their career careers.
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And let me just say that our career expo here is crazy town because people know
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that our students know how to work, know how to show up, know how to dress appropriately.
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I mean, all the things that business owners are looking for now, they find here.
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Yeah. So anyway, I'm sorry that I got off track from your original question,
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but the Hard Work You story fits us well.
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Well, it's not everything we are because that developing your relationship with
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Christ, getting to know Him and then learning about what does it mean to be
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hospitable and do things with excellence.
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And those are all things. And they're spending 15 hours a week with their worker supervisor.
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And they're spending, you know, 15 hours a week in class. But that's with different professors.
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So really the training of the work supervisors and the quality of their work
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ethic and their walk with Christ has a tremendous impact on our students and
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is very transformative for them as well.
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That's awesome.
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That's, it's so, it's just so needed. We were out to dinner last night and,
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you know, we're asking some interesting questions. We're on a double date,
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which is a very rare opportunity for my husband and I.
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And so we were, we were having a blast and we're talking through different cultures
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around the world and, and kind of this idea of, you know, our friends had just
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gone to Bali and how safe they felt there and how,
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kind and helpful and out of the way their culture was for helping.
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And my husband's crashed his head and he's like, what can we do different here?
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What can we do to make that the experience here that people look around the
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world and see Christians, American Christians that are going out of their way
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to be helpful and kind and really act like Christ.
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And unfortunately, we don't always see that.
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And man, as soon as you started talking, I'm like, oh, you do this.
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You do what you guys are doing. That's how you change it.
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And it's amazing. It really is. You are literally...
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Forming that in your little city. You are forming that.
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We're striving to cultivate hospitality among our student body,
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but also in the guests that we serve.
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So the Keter Center that I mentioned earlier, that's this magnificent log lodge
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that has a high-end dining room and conference facilities and guest rooms.
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It's an everyday training there. And people comment.
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That's one of the reasons why it's on this standout TripAdvisor list is for
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the hospitality that people feel when they come in here. And I think they're hungry for it.
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But when they find these 18, 19, 22-year-olds who are greeting them,
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who are looking them in the eye, who are helping them.
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Who aren't on their phone, who don't have earpods in, that is formative for our students.
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And it's no wonder that people want to hire them because those are some of the
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things that our culture, we watch fading away.
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But any of your listeners just want to be encouraged about the future of the
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country or about believers who are striving to look more like Christ.
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This is a it's a very encouraging place to be and i feel so beyond blessed to spend my days,
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i love it andrew she mentioned uh phones and scrolling and uh where do you see
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our our phone distraction and our our young young adults and our kids today,
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It's something distinct about Christian classical schools is that we are decidedly low technology.
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Yeah. So you have students, you know, most of the time when our students are
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writing papers, they're actually writing with pen and paper.
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And we're, I mean, even more now as we're facing challenges with AI, even more so.
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You know, we believe that, A part of the purpose of human life is students pausing,
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to really ask big questions about meaning, about truth, goodness, and beauty.
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And in order for them to do that well, they have to experience leisure.
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They have to experience moments of stillness where the mind can sort of ascend to those questions,
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and um you kind of have to go through some moments of boredom before you get
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there and our phones don't let us do that and so um we when our students walk
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into school in our office,
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we have wooden cubbies by the entrance and we actually don't require them to
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do this they can't have their phones in class,
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but we encourage them um we require them not to have phones out in class but
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we don't require them to do this.
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We have these wooden cubbies and we encourage them at the beginning of the year.
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We say, hey, what we're doing here is important.
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What we're doing here is transformative.
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Put your phone in that cubby as you walk in, just as a sign to say,
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I'm actually going to distance myself from technology.
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I'm actually going to distance myself from the influence that this device has
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on me for a few hours every day so we can pursue the true, the good and the
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beautiful so we can be formed.
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And sure enough, students do it. These students walk into school,
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they walk into the office, they put their phone in the cubby,
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and then they walk to class.
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And you can almost see a weight lift off of them when they put their phone in
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the cubby. So that's something we're wrestling with.
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But yeah, trying to create those spaces where there's no distraction and the
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mind can actually ascend to those questions.
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That's what we're trying to do. Yeah, I think that's so important.
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I might need a couple of wooden cubbies. So if you want to send me the design
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of those, but I'm trying to think of all the places I could put them.
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But I really do. I think it's so important, especially as a,
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you know, I'd like to think of myself as a creative person and that creativity just goes away.
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Goes away if you are heavily distracted. And I really believe in everything
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you just said, you really have to unplug, you have to,
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put yourself in a setting or a scenario where you're allowed to be bored and
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wander off and think on a different level.
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And, you know, if we're sitting there with our phones in our hands,
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we're only on a certain level, Our minds can only go to, you know, a certain bandwidth.
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And the second that that is removed, we are opening the door into something
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so much bigger and allowing that creativity to really thrive again.
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And, you know, that the freedom that our brain and our nervous system and,
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you know, everything else about us can all of a sudden enter.
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And it's beautiful that you guys are cultivating, you know, really the remnant.
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I see just, you know, we have a remnant. The Lord tells us that,
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you know, there's always going to be that remnant.
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And you are cultivating your piece of the remnant by what you guys are doing.
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So I just, I applaud you for that.
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Um, and you know, um.
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I feel like so many parents are overwhelmed by culture. Education is definitely a hot button topic.
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I am in Jefferson County, Colorado. We hit national news like it is a hobby.
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Unfortunately, I mean, there's so much going on in the state of Colorado, especially right now.
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We're under, I think Denver Schools is under federal investigation for a bathroom
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gender situation that they created upon themselves.
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There's just so much there. What encouragement would you guys give to kind of
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mom or dad listening today?
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And, you know, what big things do they need to see? And do they need to look
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at their kid's education and
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go like, this is what you guys need to focus on. This is what you need.
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This is what matters. Sue, do you want to start?
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Yeah, I'd love to. Thank you.
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Research shows us, I want to
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go back to the technology thing for just a minute. Yeah, of course. Yeah.
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There is research on the amount of retention a person does in learning if they
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handwrite their notes rather than type their notes.
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There's data, too. It increases tremendously.
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Okay, so that can make you go, hmm, how do we, you know, what do we do about
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that if in the schools they've been on technology their whole? lives.
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So we're low tech for a reason.
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And so, you know, if students are applying to college, yes, we have some iPads
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that they can do, but it's not the primary piece of that.
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I think another thing, so that would impact families and learning,
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you know, at home or if they're homeschooling or even if they're in a Christian school.
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But I think if we go back to the patriotism and the citizenship,
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this is what I would suggest, is be involved.
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Be involved. Because as long as we're passive and just feel like we can't do
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anything about it, you can do something about it.
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That's right. And part of that is just knowing, A, what your rights are as a
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parent, even as a business owner.
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What are your rights to share your faith? It's not against the law to share
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your faith. It is against the law to require your employees to be part of that.
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So I think part of your good Christian citizenship is just to be involved and
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to understand what's happening.
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There is a reason why some of the tech giants, some of the people leading those
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technology companies, purposefully send their children to schools where there is no technology.
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There's a reason for that.
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And so I would suggest definitely getting involved in understanding more.
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What is your role as a parent? What is your voice?
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Get on that school board. Get, you know, it's not to walk out our faith is not
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the easiest thing in context like that.
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But it's the most important thing that we can do.
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So I would circle, but I would use that opportunity to get involved,
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to talk to other parents, get the data to help you in your conversations.
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It's just like get scripture at your fingertips if you're going to share your faith.
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It's the same way if you're going to walk out your faith, know what you want.
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Have the information that you need to make valid points to have people go, what?
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The tech giant, those leaders, many, many of them are sending their children
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to school where there's no technology.
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Why are we starting it in pre-K then in our school?
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I ask those questions. Right, right.
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You know, passivity really got us to where we are in our education system in America.
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It got our whole culture to where we are. We just handed everything over.
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And that lack of involvement, you know, really got us here.
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I mean, I could go off on a tangent, probably a whole nother episode,
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but I mean, you see that with our churches as well. You just,
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oh, well, we can't say that. We can't do this, you know, tiptoe around.
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And I love the reminder of what freedoms we have.
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And, you know, really we're called to be bold and to be a voice in the public
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square. And that means education as well.
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So I think you guys are bringing a lot of hope to the next generation. Sorry, go ahead.
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For the next podcast, for some other conversation, but it's the same thing,
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the impact that we can have even on our movie theaters and stores that we shop in.
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Yes. Keep pushing the envelope.
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And I've just had some interesting interactions and people say,
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well, we'll take that trailer down right now.
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Like I'm there to watch a show with my kids and my in-laws.
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And it had, you know, a movie star in a wet t-shirt contest dancing on the bar is one of the trailers.
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And I just walked right out and found the manager and just said, I didn't come for this.
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I didn't ask for that. I don't want that.
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And they took it down. I mean, it's amazing. We really, we just feel like we
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can't do anything about it. And that's just simply not true. Yeah. It's just not.
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That's awesome. I think one thing I would add, too, is, you know, I think...
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When we think about the gospel, when we think about the incarnation,
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when God wanted to renew and redeem the entire cosmos, he took on human flesh,
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and he entered into a particular place in a particular time.
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In other words, he went local.
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I mean, it's easy when we.
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Think about, when we want cultural renewal, it's easy for us to immediately think about policy.
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Transformation is never going to come through policy.
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It's going to come through small communities of renewal that are dedicated to
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prayer, dedicated to the spiritual disciplines, dedicated to Sabbath,
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that are dedicated to practicing the way of Jesus and community.
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It was so good. I think a part of where we're at in the American church is that
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in the U.S., we don't really have that.
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We have really surface level church life, right? And so I think a part of what
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our calling is right now is creating tight-knit communities of formation that
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can show what the way of Jesus looks like.
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When we think about Western history, if we look in,
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you know, around the 5th century when the Roman Empire falls in the West,
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and you have all of this cultural upheaval and chaos and there's no real social
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order, what sort of starts to hold everything together and plant seeds of renewal?
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It's a bunch of Christian monks got together and they started practicing rhythms
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of prayer. They started farming together. They started offering food to nearby villages.
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And like that laid the seeds for what would later become Western culture.
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And so the most important thing we can do is create communities of renewal,
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that are dedicated to pursuing that which is true, that which is good,
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that which is beautiful, that are dedicated to living out the way of Jesus,
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even when it's difficult, even when it challenges our assumptions.
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So the answer is always returning to the center of everything.
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It's returning to the center. It's returning to Jesus, shaping everything in
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our lives based on who he is. And as we do that, that's what culture is built on.
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As we return to that center, cultural renewal will flow out from that center.
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And that's what I think we're doing at S of O. That's why I'm thankful to be here.
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That's so awesome. Guys, where can our listeners learn more about you guys and
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connect with you and find more info on the school's?
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Well, certainly through the College of the Ozarks website, which is C-O-F, as in Frank, O.E-D-U.
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And it will bring you to the college and all that we're about in School of the Ozarks here.
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Please do a deep dive there. But even better, come and see us.
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You can see it for yourself.
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Come see us. That's awesome. That's awesome. I am making a trip soon.
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I promise I will. It is. I am so
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excited to come see you guys and see it firsthand what you guys are doing.
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I'm going to sneak into Andrew's classes.
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I look forward to it. I'll have a dinner back for you. I'll set it up.
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We have an ice cream from made from our own dairy cows here.
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So you don't want to miss that.
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Yeah. And you guys are doing something really big this fall, right? Right.
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Well, we're doing lots of big things. I know you're doing lots of big things.
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You're doing something really big to celebrate our country, correct?
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Yes. So we just had Honor America. We had thousands of people here for a free,
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like Mayberry out in the middle of campus with the drone show and fireworks.
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We have America 250 events planned throughout this fall that we would love for
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people to come participate in, especially during Veterans Week.
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Veterans Week in our region is a really, really big, it's a really big deal
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and a lot of fun. And it's a great way to honor those who have given so much
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for the freedoms of our country. We want them to know that young people are grateful.
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And so we do all kinds of things with them to promote that.
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That's really cool. All right.
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Man, I don't want to say goodbye. I think we were just starting to really break
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open some huge, huge topic.
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It's so good. I appreciate you guys so much. And I just look forward to spending
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more time with you guys and getting to know more about everything you guys are doing.
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And this is just incredible. And for everyone watching or listening today,
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I strongly encourage you to check them out, to see how you could support them,
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even maybe give to really the work they're doing.
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I see it as a ministry as well as an education. It's a ministry.
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So I just highly encourage that and appreciate everything that you guys are
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doing to support us here at Upright Christian Parenting.
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And yeah, this has just been wonderful.
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So I hope you guys have a very blessed day and just excited to continue partnership.
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With you and supporting our America 250. So it's just really, really beautiful.