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Best of Chuck & Buck 1-6 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Park on Wark.
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  Speaker 2: Uh here on this Tuesday morning, and uh, of course
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  Speaker 2: a lot to discuss. We got Greg Bell at seven
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  Speaker 2: oh five, Geene Stertur at eight o'clock today, Everett Fits
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  Speaker 2: you will stop by talk about that crack and win
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  Speaker 2: at eight thirty. Is it a crack and ticket Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: as well? On top of everything else, be listening for
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  Speaker 2: your opportunity to win tickets to see the red hot
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  Speaker 2: Seattle crack and led by the kids.
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  Speaker 3: How did this happen? Winterton? And uh and uh.
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  Speaker 4: Myers, yeah right too, and yeah, you got where are
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  Speaker 4: these sorts of people?
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  Speaker 3: Where these guys come from? What? How are they? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Just uh, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: But Myers with a beautiful pass last night, just a
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  Speaker 2: gorgeous pass last We'll talk to everyt fits you about
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  Speaker 2: it coming up at eight thirty. And Rick new isiesel
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  Speaker 2: nine o'clock's talk from college football. The rest of it
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  Speaker 2: pretty much Seahawks. That's pretty much all we're going to discuss.
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  Speaker 2: We are coming off of Black Monday, and yeah there
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  Speaker 2: are I mean, teams are quick to pull the trigger
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  Speaker 2: on head coaching general manager changes, more so now than ever.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Holmgren is bothered by it as he told us yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't think that these guys are getting good enough chance
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  Speaker 2: to get a foothold with all of the many responsibilities
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  Speaker 2: and trying to turn a lot of wayward organizations around,
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  Speaker 2: and you only give him a couple of years to.
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  Speaker 1: Do so well.
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon is out at Arizona after three seasons. It
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  Speaker 2: looked very promising. Initially we were hearing last week that
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  Speaker 2: he was going to be brought back, and then he
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  Speaker 2: was one of the victims yesterday. And man, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: an Arizona Cardinal fan, I'm sitting here and I'm scanning
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  Speaker 2: the horizon and then I'm looking at my neighbors, and
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  Speaker 2: how am I going to compete in the next few years?
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  Speaker 5: Doesn't look great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are a lot of great coaches out
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  Speaker 2: there the AFC West alone, with Andy Reid and Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton and Jim Harball. They're all going to be in
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  Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame someday, all three of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: But if there are three guys in the National Football
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  Speaker 2: League head coaches that are described as geniuses, they are McVeigh, shanahan,
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  Speaker 2: and McDonald right now, and they are all in the
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  Speaker 2: NFC West, And I just look. I think the term
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  Speaker 2: great gets overused.
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  Speaker 1: Do you guys know that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that gets overused in the sports talk world.
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  Speaker 2: The term genius gets way overused. I think that's a
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  Speaker 2: very rare condition to find in a coach or a player,
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  Speaker 2: to give them the genius label. I think all three
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  Speaker 2: of those guys in our division have earned it. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there are a lot of other ones
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  Speaker 2: out there in the world that can be described as that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think there's a current coordinator that can be
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  Speaker 2: described as that. And yet the Arizona Cardinals have to
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  Speaker 2: find a head coach that can take a worse roster
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  Speaker 2: than the other three. And let's find a head coach
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  Speaker 2: that can compete with these other three guys who are
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  Speaker 2: all by away very young too, and unless they want
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  Speaker 2: to leave, aren't gonna be going anywhere for the next
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  Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty years. That's what the Cardinals are up against.
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  Speaker 2: You want to talk about a steep hill to climb?
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  Speaker 3: Good luck?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, good luck is right. I mean it's I think
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  Speaker 6: you probably got to look at it. If you're a
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  Speaker 6: Cardinal fan or if you're in the ownership, you know,
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  Speaker 6: front office side of things is it's probably a two
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  Speaker 6: phase at least two phase situation. You got to get
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  Speaker 6: somebody in there that just flat out can say, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: it's not necessary. You're not necessarily bringing a men for
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  Speaker 6: maybe the x's and o's and winning right now against
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  Speaker 6: those three teams, because you're right, they're young. Maybe the
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  Speaker 6: Niners are and the Rams are not. Their personnel is
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  Speaker 6: not as young as the Seahawks are, but the coaches
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  Speaker 6: are for sure. Right, they might end up having to
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  Speaker 6: go through some sort of restructure rebuild with replacing some
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  Speaker 6: aging guys, right, But at the same time, the scheme
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  Speaker 6: and the system, the culture's already set with those organizations.
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  Speaker 6: I think you have to first and foremost get somebody
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  Speaker 6: that's going to come in and say I'm in a
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  Speaker 6: clean house on anyway that doesn't have the right attitude
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  Speaker 6: that we need to have to be competitive in.
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  Speaker 1: The division that we're in.
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  Speaker 3: Huh by Kyler, I think that riding's on the wall.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that might be you know step number one, like, well,
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  Speaker 6: we're not going to have that. We're not going to have,
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  Speaker 6: you know, somebody that's more interested in their call of
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  Speaker 6: duty stats than their their you know, passer rating. We're
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  Speaker 6: going to probably make some moves there. So I think
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  Speaker 6: it might be you'll get somebody that's maybe hard knows
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  Speaker 6: that you know, is not going to be long for
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  Speaker 6: the job. Maybe it's going to be two three years,
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  Speaker 6: and but he can get you back to relevance where
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  Speaker 6: you're actually fighting and putting up a fight. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: this year they went zero to six in the division
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  Speaker 6: and understandably so the other three teams, like we just
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  Speaker 6: talked about her are you know, I think three of
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  Speaker 6: the best teams in the NFC.
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  Speaker 2: And they were supposed to be competitive, right, they were
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be, Hey, watch out for the Cardinals. That
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  Speaker 2: was sort of they don't sleep on the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 4: It was following from the year before, right, everyone thought
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  Speaker 4: they were going to be really good. They only won
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  Speaker 4: eight games. That was kind of a surprise. It was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's going to carry over to twenty twenty five. These
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  Speaker 4: guys are watch out. They got Marvin Harrison Junior and
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  Speaker 4: they're good.
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  Speaker 3: Three and fourteen.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, in the draft, well they started out too and
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  Speaker 6: oh also, oh you just think about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they win.
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  Speaker 6: One game in the I mean after week three, and
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  Speaker 6: so that's right. I mean, it's I don't know for
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  Speaker 6: sure how you end up, you know, trying to dig
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  Speaker 6: yourself out of that.
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  Speaker 1: To some degree, it's one of those before.
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  Speaker 6: You start looking at what do we do to overcome Seattle,
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  Speaker 6: who's now the top dog in the division, or the
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  Speaker 6: Niners in Rams, which you can say are right there
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  Speaker 6: with the Seahawks, and and maybe you different opinions might
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  Speaker 6: be who's the second best team in the division. Before
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  Speaker 6: you can even think about overcoming them, you got to
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  Speaker 6: think about how do we even become competitive? I mean,
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  Speaker 6: how do we even how do we get back to
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  Speaker 6: like just expecting a split.
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  Speaker 2: How do we get a head coach that wants to
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  Speaker 2: take on that challenge? And you'll find somebody, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's thirty two jobs and somebody's.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna want it.
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  Speaker 2: But that that challenge you'll loan, I mean, considering the
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  Speaker 2: type of coach you're going to need to compete sooner
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  Speaker 2: than later, and then convincing him of the path to
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  Speaker 2: go against these other three organizations that obviously have a
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  Speaker 2: huge lead on them and are of no mind to
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  Speaker 2: give it up any time soon. I think maybe San
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  Speaker 2: Francisco with their aged lineup, but the Rams, other than
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  Speaker 2: Stafford and DeVante Adams are young. They're young across the board,
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  Speaker 2: they've already gone through their rebuild and they're still winning
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  Speaker 2: at that high of a clip. So I mean, Arizona's
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  Speaker 2: a very attractive place for a lot of people. Head coaches, players,
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  Speaker 2: baseball players kind of want to live there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: year round, and I think that there is a draw
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  Speaker 2: from that. But then again, on the flip side, the
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals organization is historically flawed and nobody likes the Bidwell family.
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  Speaker 2: No one hasn't one hundred years of football like anyone
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  Speaker 2: from the Bidwell family, and they're still in charge of
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  Speaker 2: that operation there, and clearly they can't get out of
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  Speaker 2: their own way. They can't break through to become a
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  Speaker 2: consistent contender in the National Football League, and so to
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  Speaker 2: get a head coach and to try to compete with
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  Speaker 2: these guys, I don't where's the genius out there?
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  Speaker 7: Right?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's what he said, Yeah, do you want to
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  Speaker 4: go offensive or do you want to go defensive? Because
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  Speaker 4: I mean, do you need to find someone that's good
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  Speaker 4: at both? I mean it seems impossible.
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  Speaker 3: Signetti, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean, Signetti, I think it would be Or now, is
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  Speaker 6: he gonna want to jump ship from where he's at now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 6: I don't think he would. But that's a guy that
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  Speaker 6: brings the entire thing with him. It's not just a person.
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  Speaker 6: He brings the coaching staff that's been with him, the
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  Speaker 6: process that's been with him. Now, whether or not he's
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  Speaker 6: wanting to, he doesn't seem like the type that's that's
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  Speaker 6: got that written on his mirror that I can't wait
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  Speaker 6: to be an NFL coach. But if I'm the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 6: that's probably one of my first calls.
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  Speaker 2: He's the only guy though, that is he doesn't I
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  Speaker 2: don't think he has any professional experience, and.
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  Speaker 3: You never know how.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe that style works on eighteen to twenty
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  Speaker 2: two year olds, is it going to work on a
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  Speaker 2: thirty year old left tackle?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know either, but I mean his name has
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  Speaker 1: been brought up.
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  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak is the guy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've looked up all these lists of top
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  Speaker 2: coordinator candidates for head coaching positions in Kubiak's name is
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  Speaker 2: the one that keeps coming up, and I guess maybe
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  Speaker 2: there's some logic there. He has some experience in the
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco's organization. He obviously has learned a thing or
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  Speaker 2: two from being around Mike McDonald. He's young, he's obviously bright.
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  Speaker 2: He certainly led the Seahawks and his you know second
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  Speaker 2: season or see me first season, he led them to
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  Speaker 2: their best offensive year in franchise history.
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  Speaker 3: I hear Softie talk about how.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't have a personality and how is he going
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  Speaker 2: to handle being in the media, that it just seems
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  Speaker 2: to be something that doesn't fit naturally with him. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, we might have to, in all of our
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  Speaker 2: our zest and joy of being the number one seed,
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  Speaker 2: have to accept the fact that there might be five
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  Speaker 2: six teams trying to poach our offensive coordinator before the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs come.
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  Speaker 1: To a close.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's the price you pay when you're good. You know,
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  Speaker 6: people start coming looking and saying, well, what are the
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  Speaker 6: Seahawks doing that I like? And if some of it
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  Speaker 6: falls down to Clint Kubiak, and understandably so, because there's
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  Speaker 6: been times that this offense, I mean, there's not like
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  Speaker 6: it has just been thirteen to three games all season.
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  Speaker 6: They've put up some big numbers at different points and
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  Speaker 6: it's just a matter of consistency he's definitely going to
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  Speaker 6: be getting interviews now whether or not he wants to
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  Speaker 6: jump ship. Would you want to if you're Clint Kubiak
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  Speaker 6: and you're sitting in the number one seed behind this
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  Speaker 6: young team and you're just now getting Sam Darnold under
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  Speaker 6: to understand what it is you want to do, or
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  Speaker 6: you want to jump ship and go take on Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the point of the conversation. That's the
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  Speaker 2: bottom line here, Like, all right, so you do. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just use Kubiak as an example.
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  Speaker 3: Do I really want to go there?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and have to face that guy across the room
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  Speaker 2: two times a year.
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  Speaker 3: That's the guy I got to get through.
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  Speaker 2: I've been around him every single day. Do I want
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  Speaker 2: to start my head coaching career being in a clearly
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  Speaker 2: the worst team in the division with that big of
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  Speaker 2: a hill, knowing that in today's NFL game, you only
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  Speaker 2: get a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Of years to prove that your time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the only thing they could really attract is
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  Speaker 2: somebody that just wants one of the thirty two jobs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they attract the guy that's getting ready
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  Speaker 2: to start his.
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  Speaker 1: Head coaching career.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they attract the top coordinator out there.
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  Speaker 2: I think they could attract Bill Belichick. They wanted Bill Belichick,
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine they could get him.
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  Speaker 8: But you.
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  Speaker 3: You could certainly get Pete Carriss. He would take the
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  Speaker 3: job you want if that.
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  Speaker 5: Might be waiting outside the facility right now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of who you have to go
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  Speaker 2: after and let you just want to take a roll
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  Speaker 2: of the dice on some second level coordinator. Yeah, which
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  Speaker 2: is what they've been doing for years now and it's
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  Speaker 2: not worked.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Cliff.
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  Speaker 2: Kingsbury's being mentioned as one of the top candidates as
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  Speaker 2: a coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they've already had him and they've already fired him.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that they need to bring him back.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a that's a really difficult decisions. That's a
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  Speaker 2: really interesting situation they've got going down there in the desert.
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  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up next, speaking of the Seahawks, coach Holmgren did
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  Speaker 2: express some concerns over what happened Saturday night yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Seven o'clock hour here on a Tuesday. Ashley's here, Bucky's here.
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  Speaker 2: My name is Chuck Powell, and we got three more
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  Speaker 2: hours of radio plan for you, including Greg Bell stopping
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  Speaker 2: by here at seven oh five talk some more Seahawks football.
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  Speaker 2: But first let's get to your frost brood course. Like
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  Speaker 2: juice Chill headlines, the Seahawks are on by a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fools in the national Football League are playing this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Then you know that there was a chance to not
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  Speaker 2: play and still have a shot at the Super Bowl. Boy,
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  Speaker 2: you guys really missed an opportunity to hear research. Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: are on by until next week, and so yeah, they'll
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  Speaker 2: just get to watch football this weekend. Like the rest
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  Speaker 2: of US Wildcard playoffs starts Saturday at one thirty. It'll
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  Speaker 2: be Carol Line and the Rams getting it started, Bears
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  Speaker 2: and Packers the Saturday night game. There'll be three games
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday, and there's even a Monday night Wildcard playoff
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  Speaker 2: game featuring the Houston Texans and Aaron Rodgers and the
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh. And so man, great time of
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  Speaker 2: the year. Wildcard Playoffs get started on Saturday. Black Monday
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  Speaker 2: yesterday caused firings of Jonathan Gannon in Arizona. And the
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  Speaker 2: most notable thing I think in the National Football League
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  Speaker 2: and certainly are in Seattle, was Pete Carroll being let
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  Speaker 2: go by the Las Vegas Raiders after just one year.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of writing on the wall, seems that Pete Carroll
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  Speaker 2: has coached his last game as head coach in the
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  Speaker 2: National Football League. But what a phenomenal run by Pete Carroll.
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  Speaker 2: College football playoffs are going to resume on Thursday. There'll
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  Speaker 2: be one game on Thursday, one game on Friday. In
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  Speaker 2: the meantime, the college football transfer portal remains open and
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of crazy stuff going on, including quarterbacks backing
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  Speaker 2: out of commitments and then sighting somewhere else the very
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  Speaker 2: next day. Of course, thus far, nothing really all that
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  Speaker 2: meety from Washington at this point, but certainly that thing
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  Speaker 2: is ever changing and we will keep our eye on it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even mention that the crack and won last
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  Speaker 2: night five to one on Mike Ben got to call
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  Speaker 2: five goals successful goals for the Kraken last night, and
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  Speaker 2: they just wiped out the Calgary Flames.
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  Speaker 3: It's the kids.
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  Speaker 2: It's always been the kids getting the job done for
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  Speaker 2: the Kracking during this recent hot streak, and they will
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  Speaker 2: play again tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It will be the.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, what are you gonna do with an entire weekend
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: to yourself?
• 17:46
  Speaker 8: Greg?
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  Speaker 2: I mean I would hope that you're working on some big, big,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: you know, deep investigative article. You've got time to do
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: it now over the weekend.
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, more work. That sounds like something I want to do.
• 18:02
  Speaker 8: Maybe the opposite of that.
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, you can there are two ways. There are two
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: doors you can take here.
• 18:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, the weekend with my family for the.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Uh, well, I want to ask we were talking about
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: this about a half hour ago.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak, with all of these.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: Coaching changes that are being made, his name just keeps
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: popping up. I think I saw an article yesterday that
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: went as far as saying he's the number one candidate
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So are the.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Seahawks prepared for this that throughout these playoffs with all
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: these head coaching changes, I think we're up to six
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: vacancies now that they're going to have to protect our
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: oc from all of these suitors.
• 18:45
  Speaker 8: Well, they're already already. And I asked Mike McDonald yesterday
• 18:48
  Speaker 8: about this. The reason why he's the emerging number one
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: candidate of Atlanta. He's the only one known that the
• 18:54
  Speaker 8: Falcons have requested permission to talk to, and Mike McDonald
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: can confirm that yesterday that so far Clint Kubyack is
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: the only one on the Seahawks staff that a team
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: has asked permission for, and McDonald said he supports that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: It's a bittersweet thing for him. He said, he of
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: course love to have Kobiak, but he's not going to
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: stop someone from their growth and moving up in the ladder.
• 19:16
  Speaker 8: And Clint Kobyac is in thirty eight years old, just
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: like Mike McDonald is. He's in the same situation McDonald
• 19:22
  Speaker 8: was when the Seahawks hired him. He's never been a
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: head coach before, a successful coordinator. This is what happens
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: when you're a top seed in the NFL. He's right now.
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: Clint Kobyak is last year as Ben Johnson the Lions
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: offensive coordinator from the top, one of the top playoff seeds.
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: This is the attention you get. The offense was third
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: in the league. He ran the ball third most, third
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: highest rate in the league, and he had a downfield
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: passing game that produced a Pro Bowl quarterback and the
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: number one receiving yards receiving the receiver in the NFL.
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: So it follows and I'm sure the Browns are going
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: to be interested them. As far as your point about
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: the Seahawk need to protect him through the playoffs, the
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: NFL rules will do that for him. The playoff bye
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: week is the only week that coaches from a top
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: sea can do interviews, and then after Sunday this comings weekend.
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: After that he's hands off and you can't interview him
• 20:21
  Speaker 8: again until potentially the week if there would be a
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: bye before the Seahawks would play in a super Bowl.
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: We're getting ahead of ourselves, but the point is that
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: this bye week, this Atlanta asked early this week because
• 20:33
  Speaker 8: one they were the earliest to have a vacancy on
• 20:35
  Speaker 8: Sunday night, and two they have this week only before
• 20:38
  Speaker 8: this he'll go back Kubiak to coaching the Seahawks.
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: What is your just kind of final verdict of I mean,
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: at the end of the regular season, getting ready for
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: the postseason. When it comes to the offense, I mean,
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: it's been potent. You said, you know, they finish year third,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: I think, and that's like for points per game, right,
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's third as far as that goes. But
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: it's been there's been more where it's like this is
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: they run it, run it, maybe not super effectively, but
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: that's fine. It opens up for some of the downfield stuff,
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: the bigger, the big plays. And so what is your
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: final verdict as far as how just the whole thing
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: looks as far as week one to week eighteen.
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: Well, they are peaking exactly the right time and only
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: right now are they playing the way McDonald and Kubiak
• 21:24
  Speaker 8: designed them back in April to play. And if you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: going to do it, you don't want to do it
• 21:28
  Speaker 8: in October and not in January. So they're doing it
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: in the right way. But you're right, it was a
• 21:33
  Speaker 8: journey and it was an up and down. It took
• 21:36
  Speaker 8: them all the way until the last three games, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: now the last three games one hundred and seventy three yards,
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: one hundred and sixty three yards and one hundred eighty yards.
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: It's season high against the forty nine ers, all in rushing.
• 21:48
  Speaker 8: So it is now only now where they wanted it
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: to be all season. The fact is it was going
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: to take a while to get there, and it was
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: We talked about this too. If this Seahawks team was
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: better in September in December, they were problems. And we
• 22:02
  Speaker 8: also said way back in August in September that the
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: December team would be so much better on offense, and
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: it was, and it took until then for the whole
• 22:10
  Speaker 8: running game to mesh, for the blocking to be what
• 22:14
  Speaker 8: it needed to be. Oh, by the way their needs
• 22:17
  Speaker 8: and McDonald did yesterday, Gibbs, but there need to be
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: a lot of kudos to Josh Jones thrown in there
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: when Charles Cross was injured the last three games that
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: they've run for one seventy one sixty three, one eighty
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: with Josh Jones at the left tackle position. He played
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: hurt Saturday night. They band aided and pharmaceuticaled him into
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: playing that game. He was a questionable coming into the game.
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: He had ankle and knee injuries. He got hurt again
• 22:43
  Speaker 8: during the game and was in the tenth during the
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: third quarter. McDonald said yesterday, we really appreciated him getting
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: through that game on Saturday, which is parlance for he
• 22:54
  Speaker 8: needed a few extra helps medically to get through that game,
• 22:58
  Speaker 8: and he said McNeill said, we needed him. They really
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: did not want to go with an undrafted rookie third
• 23:04
  Speaker 8: string left tackle against the forty nine ers and Amari
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: Kite that they had just put on the practice from
• 23:09
  Speaker 8: the practice squad to the active ross last week. And
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: Josh Jones, the eight year the swing veterans that they signed.
• 23:15
  Speaker 8: He did his job they signed him for. He's played
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: really well. Now Charles Crossick's like, he'll be back playing
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: for the first game on the next Saturday. I'm saying
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: it's going to be Saturday. We can explain the other
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: if he wants.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I actually love the Amari Kite debut performance because as
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: soon as Jones was out, the next camera shot you
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: saw was Kite was in the huddle like he was
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: so ready to be out there, and then and then
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: he just gets a couple of snaps and then he
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: leaves and it's like, Okay, I didn't hurt the team.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: In my debut.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Josh is ready to go.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: And you just saw this giant grin on his face
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on the sidelines, like, well, that was fun. I'm an
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: NFL football player now.
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: Well, he had he had two snaps on offense through
• 23:58
  Speaker 8: the first seventeen games. They ran at the end of
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: that drive, it was a third down play. They ran
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: away from him to the right side, not the left
• 24:05
  Speaker 8: forty nine ers are ready for it, because there were
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: about four to forty nine ers standing over there to
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: stop the play and force the punt. And then Cross
• 24:12
  Speaker 8: came back on. But then I Kite and then he
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: impressed them way back in the spring, but not enough
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: that they wanted him to be the front left TACKLEO.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: Sure.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us our Seawks inside.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You can follow him at the Newstribune dot com for
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: complete Seahawks coverage, and of course at g Bell Seattle
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: there on X. Let's talk about injuries. I mentioned this yesterday.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is about as healthy as you can be.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You talk about the car crashes every week in the
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: National Football League. To get through the preseason seventeen of
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: these games and to have a buy to be this healthy,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and to also get the benefit of two weeks to
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: rest and get everybody like Kobe Bryant and Charles Cross
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and everybody up to speed for that first playoff game
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: in two weeks. I mean, how valuable is that compared
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to home field ava in a bye week and not
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: having to face anybody this week. I mean, I think
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: that's as a valuable a commodity that you earned as anything.
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: Normally, yes, but the Seahawks have been so good Chuck
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: plugging in Tyokatta and player Cody White before he now
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: got hurt in his own Injuri, reserve of guys who've
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: been hurt, and then Phillins have to come in. They
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: do need Kobe Bryant back. He's not as a slam
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: dunk as Charles Cross as he'll play in the first
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: playoff game, but Tyocott has been great for him. O'catta
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: had a couple of great open field tackles early in
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: the game, again against the forty nine ers. I still
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: think the most important thing about to buy is you
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: have one fewer game to win to go to the
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: Super Bowl, one fewer game to get tripped up, one
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: fewer game that maybe the matchup isn't exactly what you want,
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: one fewer game that you might have a turnover game
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: that makes what should be a win for you turn
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: into a struggle. Just one fewer game. And the way
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: the new NFL playoff structure is only one team in
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: each conference gets that the top seed, and that's the
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: biggest care of that. But yes, the corollary of having
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: the week off after eighteen games even guys who excuse me,
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: too many plane flights, even the guys who have even
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: guys who are not on the injured list are benefiting
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: from this week. Just because you're not on the injury report,
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: it doesn't mean you're not hurt. They're all hurt, I mean,
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: Sam Donald, all of them are hurting in some way
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: and that's the big value this week. So to that end,
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: McDonald's gonna be given Yesterday was meeting day, recuperation day
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: in the training room. Today he's giving them off. Tomorrow
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: and Thursday are gonna be the only two practice days
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: of the week, and then they get Friday, Saturday, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: Sunday off, So it's like two thirds of the full
• 26:45
  Speaker 8: week off of these guys. That is huge. In January,
• 26:48
  Speaker 8: you're gonna see a much fresher team come back on
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: the field Monday.
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Well just one more I mean, the idea it's not
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: maybe as urgent considering how Rashid Shaheed has now kind
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: of been thrust into that role on the offense. But
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: Tory Horton, do you think he'll be back for the playoffs?
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: Nope, it sounds like McDonald said, they don't expect him
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: to be probably not playing until next year. Shin condition.
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: I tried to pinpoint was it a fracture, was it
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: a stress fracture? And he just said it was a
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: shin and it's they don't expect him to be back,
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: and you're right, the urgency for him to be back
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: much less. There is a chicken in the egg story
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: behind the trade of Shaheed and the injury to Horton,
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: And we're not sure which came first, because Horton got
• 27:36
  Speaker 8: injured to night. He had the two touchdowns against Washington
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: on November two, but he didn't as as far as
• 27:43
  Speaker 8: McDonald has told us, he didn't disclose it or it
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: didn't be comparent until the midweek following, and by then
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: they had already traded for Shaheed. And the time from
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: the game Sunday night to the practice Wednesday they traded
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: for Shaheed, I'm pretty sure the Seahawks had some inkling
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: that it wasn't great with Horton, which is why they
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: gave two third round, third day picks to the Saints
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: for Shahed. But yes, Shaheed has taken what Horton was doing,
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: and now all of a sudden, you've got to consider
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: resigning Shahit his rookie contract ends with the end of
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: this season, and he has been I talked to Jay
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: Harbor about him in the return game. I was talking
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: about his some of his schemes and some of the
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: things he does strategically Harbor and he said, I got
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: Shihed making everything I do look good. So I would
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: expect them to hit Shaheed to be one of the
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: next guys that they re up. But they can't resign everyone,
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: and they don't. That's the way it is every year.
• 28:34
  Speaker 8: Kenneth Walker, Kobe Bryant, Riek Wohlan, Rashid Shaheed, all of
• 28:39
  Speaker 8: those contracts are ending this year.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had heard about Horton, but I haven't heard
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: an update on Arroyo. His last I heard what regular
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: season was over. He wasn't exactly playing that go to
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: football before his injury. And right now they seem to
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: have some good going with Barner and Sobered that little combination.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: So what's the update on his injuries. He's gonna be
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: ready for the playoffs and is there even a role
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: for him here as we get things started, there's.
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: A chance he Arroyo, Halani and Chas Surat will all
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: come back, McDonald said, And they can they have three elevations,
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: three activations from injured reserve left to use in the playoffs,
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: so those three could come back, Horton being of the
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: four that are injuries the or Horton would be the
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: one that won't come back. So yes, there's a possibly
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: they'll all come back. And there is a role for
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: him because of his size, because of his ability to
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: be in the slot and play outside. They wouldn't mind
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: having an extra receiving threat for the playoffs. And you're right,
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: he hasn't had the production that maybe they've envisioned at
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: the start of the season for him, But yeah, there
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: are plays in the playbook specifically for Arroyo if they
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: wouldn't mind putting back out in the slot and creating
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: some matchup advantages for them.
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: How much of the one hundred and eighty yards rushing
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: against the Niners do you expect? Is this team catching
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: up to what Klint Kubiak and Mike McDonald want them
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: to do. Obviously from the beginning of the season, but
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: now it's flourishing. How much is that that they get
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: Sundale's back or you know that the offensive line has
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: figured out what that is, and how much of that
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: was on the running backs hitting the holes where they're
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: supposed to, or it was do you put a lion's
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: share of that on the Niners and how banged up
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: they are.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Well, it's true in the Niners defense as shell but itself,
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: but they also did it against the Panthers. They also
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: did against the Rams. So now it's becoming a trend
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: no matter who they're playing. And I still think there
• 30:34
  Speaker 8: are times that Kenneth Walker has four or five guys
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: waiting on him like he's a bus rolling up to
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: the transit center, especially on stretch out side plays. So
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: they're not all the way there yet. And as McDonald
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: said after the game Sunday night, we started really well,
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: running the ball one hundred and fifteen yards in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: first half, their most in two seasons, and then they
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: didn't run a lot in the third into the fourth quarter,
• 30:56
  Speaker 8: and he said that they've got to be better about
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: countering what the defense cat. He said the forty nine
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: Ers started the counter their run plays and specifically taking
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: away some of the outside zone and in the gaps,
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: and that the Seahawks didn't have a counter to the
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: Niners counter. McDonald's point was we need to play a
• 31:12
  Speaker 8: four quarter game. So that's the next frontier for them.
• 31:14
  Speaker 8: They're getting the yards, they're getting Charbonnet and Walker producing,
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: but now can they do it for four quarters? And
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: that'll be the challenge for the divisional playoff game? Can
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: we have a four quarter running game instead of one
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: that just gets yards and chunks one hundred and eighty yards.
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: A lot of them came in big runs, so they
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: think of the nineteen yards on third and seventeen by Walker. That's,
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: by the way, Now three weeks in a row, they've
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: gotten a third and long looked like a white flag
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: run turned into a first down. And by the way,
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: since they're talking about it, no one's talking about Jake
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: Bobo on that play. I don't know if you noticed.
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: He was in the slot on the right side on
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: the third and seventeen. I went back yesterday. I was
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: looking at the film when the huddle broke and Donald
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: gave the offense to play call. Supercup tapped Jake Bobo
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: on the back as they were breaking the huddle, meaning
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: it was turned out to me, if this block's on you, sir, well,
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: Jake Bobo took out three forty nine ers. He bought
• 32:14
  Speaker 8: three different forty nine ers on that play that led
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: to the game, And I asked McDonald about that play yesterday.
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: Bobo's only played seventeen percent of the offensive snaps this year.
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: He's played like one hundred plus snaps when he was
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: in the three hundreds the first two years, and he's
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: not exactly been happy with his role. Cody White has
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: emerged and Bobo has often been a healthy scratch. In fact,
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: he didn't play six games this year. And McDonald's said,
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: that's what I need. That's the kind of seahawk I need.
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: That's what I'm talking about. A guy who's always ready,
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: who's selfless, who may not be happy with his own
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: individual situation, but is benefiting the team, and he's there
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: when we need him. And he was there on third
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: and nineteen taking out three forty nine ers on three
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: different blocks. Well, there you go.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: There's your the story that you can do this weekend.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: How today I to him tomorrow?
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: How did Jake Bobo go from a guy that can
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: catch everything thrown his way to an offensive lineman, because
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: that's kind of what he's become, just a blocker out there.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: All right, man, thank you, we appreciate it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again tomorrow, all right, Greg bell
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  Speaker 1: Uh. You know there are still a couple.
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  Speaker 2: quite to the holiday season just yet, but I think
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  Speaker 2: there is time today.
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  Speaker 2: Kate gonna get one of these? Oh, let's not encourage that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not so wonderful my children.
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  Speaker 6: I don't really want her competing in combat sports and
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  Speaker 6: training in it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, learning it. Broom, Yeah, I don't really want that.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I think maybe you and I could
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  Speaker 6: do something not fighting, but like some sort of gladiator compty,
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  Speaker 6: you know, like maybe a standing on a little balance
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  Speaker 6: being only a couple of inches off the ground, you know,
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  Speaker 6: with the helmet, and then smack each other with a
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  Speaker 6: pugel stick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe the Big cowa.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, I know what I want to do. I want
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  Speaker 6: you to do the run where you have to try
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: to shoot the target. But I'm up with the tennis
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: balls shooting at you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it was my favorite.
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  Speaker 5: It's a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was my favorite event.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: And then I'll watch you do the eliminator. You can
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: do it, because I wouldn't get remember a lot about it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: I just remember the.
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: One yeah, the first I don't want to really do
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: it very high. I definitely don't want to be on
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: that big pedestal to fall all the way down.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: It's a pit too far.
• 35:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll just do it.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I might hit the bottom of the foam pit.
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: You can just jump down, just do it ground levels fine.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But yeah, just hit each other with the hitting part
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  Speaker 1: would hurt more.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Well, good morning. It is chucking buck in the mornings.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: And of course we got a couple of weeks to
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: get ready for Seahawks playoff football because we've got to
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: buy suck on that San Francisco. And so I want
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: to discuss this morning because you do have to be
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: reminded I think of this. He just can't do it
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: during the season. I mean, I think that's cheating. It's
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: like only going to church on Christmas and Easter. I
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: need to remind you of the power of draftness every
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: once in a while, and look in all seriousness, like
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: two of my favorite things about sports as a fan.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: I never really was one that poured too much emotion
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: into my watching of sports. You guys are the ones
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: that turned me into a fool. I'm you Seattle, And
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: so I never really poured much emotion into it. I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: was always about the puzzle making aspect. So two of
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: my favorite things are the draft, as you might have
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: picked up on the NFL Draft, and then also like
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball roster construction. Probably my two favorite
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: topics to discuss sports are those two things. And yet
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: there are still a lot of people and I realize
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I go too far the other way, but man, there
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: are still other people that think the draft is just
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: a crapshoot and a waste of time, and that prospects
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: should be traded away because they're nothing. And it's just
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much more evidence that you need.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, these are the areas that you need to
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: thrive in. These are what sets your roster up, and
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: then you use free agency and trades to fill in
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the gaps. That's how it has to work. And I
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: realized there are a couple of examples in baseball, particularly
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: where teams used free agency to end up buying championships,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: but more often than not, and especially in football, because
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: you have a salary cap, you can't just have an
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: owner that goes out there and spends a trillion dollars
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: compared to the rest of them just.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Spending a billion.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: You've got to come through in the draft, and if you,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: as a Seahawk fan, don't understand it, then I don't
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: know if there's any.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Getting through to you.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Because think about what the Seahawks did in between twenty
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: twelve and twenty twenty. They went ninety eight, forty five
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: and one. It was the best run in franchise history.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Eight playoff appearances in nine years, four Division titles, two
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: super Bowl appearances, one super Bowl victory, and a nine
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: year span. And that was certainly accentuated and bolstered by
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Michael Bennett, Cliff Abril, Marshawn Lynch, some of the additions
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: that they made over that span of time. But you're
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: out of your mind if you don't think that that
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: team's foundation was the twenty ten, twenty eleven, and twenty
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: twelve draft when they got Russell locoombe Earl, Thomas Golden, Tate,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Cam Chancellor, James Carpenter, kJ Wright, Richard Sherman, Malcolm Smith,
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Bruce Irvin, Billy Wagner, Russell Wilson. That's in a three
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: year span, and those are just the stars. I didn't
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: even mention the other starters that they got during that
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: stretch as well. I mean, that foundation that they found
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: through the draft is what made them a perennial super
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Bowl contender for nine fricking years. And you know, for
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: those that like we should have been a dynasty, we
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: should have won more, I agree with you. That didn't happen,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: but certainly you were. You were set up for that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: to happen. And now guess what you're getting set up
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: for that to happen again. From twenty thirteen to twenty
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: twenty one, that was some bad drafting at best mediocre drafting.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: That was some bad to mediocre draft And that's a
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: long stretch of time twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: where you didn't have near the success that you had
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: from twenty ten to twenty twelve. And the result was
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: never terrible, but you were mediocre and you felt that
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: media for the last four years. Over the course of
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: the last four years, thirty five and thirty three with
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: one playoff appearance, that was the ramifications of not drafting well.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: But what has happened in this turnaround? Number one seed?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: How about these drafts since twenty twenty two? Cross Mafe Walker,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Lucas Bryant and wooln All in one draft.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: That's pretty good?
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: The next year Witherspoon, jsn Hall, Charbonney and Bradford. That's
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: four started, four and a half starters. You count Sharbone
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: as a one B running back. Twenty twenty four not
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: as successful deathwise, but Murphy Barner and then twenty twenty
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: five Zabel Emon Worri Horton who contributed arroyo oots. I mean,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: over the course of the last four years, what you've done,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: and is it any surprise that you've bumped a fourteen
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and three this year with a young roster. John Schneider's
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: done it again through the draft. And yes he's added
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: Donald and he's added Lawrence, But the foundation of this
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: this roster was built through.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: The power of draftness.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And this is why this team set up not just
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: to possibly win a Super Bowl this year, but maybe
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: you do end up with your dynasty, Maybe you do
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: end up with your nine years of success with multiple
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: championships because of how frickin' well John Schneider is drafted
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: in the last four years.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree.
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: I mean I think that there's I think that that
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: loll you were talking about kind of that twenty ten
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: eleven twelve that set it up or was it eleven
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: twelve thirteen, whatever, that that that draft set you up
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: to where all of a sudden you had a core
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: group of playmakers and Hall of famers that we're gonna
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: be able to you then just had to kind of
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: figure out what to plug and play around that group
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: of guys. I think that sets you up for the
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: run that they had the legion of boom days. I
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: think then the fall off where for some reason there
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: was a bunch of years later they didn't have any
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: first round picks, where so your first pick's the forty
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: fifth or the sixtieth pick or whatever it is.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I think that there's.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Well, they were using that window to bolster the team,
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: the Jimmy Grahams and and those additions, and that's what
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you do when you've got a chance, when you're in
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: the window and you have a chance to win.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: Right and yet you if you then don't nail that
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: second rounder and the third rounder like they have in
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: the last few drafts, or they've nailed all of them,
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: the first, second, third, whatever it is. If you don't
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: nail those, then you're going to find a lull. There's
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: going to come a point in time when either you
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: know you have to move on from a Bobby Wagner
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: for if it's financial reasons, or you Russell Wilson is
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: no longer the player and so it's time to move
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: on from him when you have to do that, If
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, that's where that draft class was
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: supposed to have somebody that could fit in there and
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: and kind of bridge that gap, so to speak, or
• 42:59
  Speaker 6: just take over where they left off, then you find
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: yourselves kind of toiling in mediocrity. Hence the end of
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: the kind of Pete Carroll era. I think that now
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Yeah, you've had a few drafts
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: in a row now where it's all bolstered again, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: it's all with a bunch of young dudes, and so
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: you're set up for it, and then the time is
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: going to come.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: You got to keep that rolling.
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: You got to keep having good draft misses because that's
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: where when all of a sudden, you have to make
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: decisions on Okay, Ken Walker or what are we doing there?
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: And when you have to start making decisions and guys
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: are gonna move on, you have to be able to
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: replace it with the guys you drafted in the more
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: recent years.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: And I do think John Schneider is incredible at what
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: he does. I do think Pete has to get some
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: credit for the early days. I mean, the two of
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: them were clearly a team doing it together well, for sure,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: and it just obviously as the relationship progressed, they were
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: maybe on different pages. And so I'm glad that you know,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: the situation is the way it is now and clearly
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: John still got that draft magic.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: John doesn't get all the credit. No, No, he doesn't
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: get all the boy name. But there was a stretch
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: of time where they they just weren't hitting. I mean,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: your top drafts for a stretch, Kristen Michael, Paul Richardson,
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Frank Clark was good, Jermaineafetti, Malik McDowell, and these are
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: your top picks and successive Rashad Penny which everybody called
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: l J. Collier, which everybody questioned at the time. Yeah,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Jordan Brooks was pretty good, uh, Dwayne Eskridge. I mean
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: that was a nine year stretch of drafting where you're
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: missing on your top pick every single year and the
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: end result of it was four years of mediocrity. Never
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: were terrible, and there's where Pete gets a lot of credit.
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Never were terrible. Yeah, but certainly the the it had
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: worn off. Yes, that three years of bumper crop, you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: drafting had worn off. They built the foundation to win
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: for nearly a decade. Uh, but then you just didn't
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: keep the ball rolling. You weren't just you just weren't
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: having successful drafts. Well, now now you've had four successful
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: years in a row, and you've got it again, another
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: potential with a great, young, defensive minded head coach in charge.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe now you do get that dynasty you felt you
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: missed out on. I mean there's a chance. I mean,
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: we don't want to put the car before the horse.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: You got to play a playoff game this year. But
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: but nonetheless, man, it is set up beautifully, and it's
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: through the power.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Of the draft.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: And I hear you. I hear you all. I hear
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: what you're.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Telling me, Ashley, Bucky, all the listeners. We got to
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: do more draft.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: I didn't hear that, right, You're picking up what I'm
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: laying down.
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: Yes not.
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: I don't think what anybody said more draft talk on
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: the show.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: I might not have set it out loud, but my
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: eyes and my heart are pretty sure.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Pretty well, I know what you're saying, Like I just
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: haven't poured my heart entirely, and you have this like, yeah, poured.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Your heart, yeah, your head and yeah, but you've poured
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: all kinds of things into it.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think you need anymore.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: There, My good, Thank you, Ashley. I'm that's that's the
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: sentiment that I'm picking up on.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: So you got it. I got a greater fever for
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: it right now than ever.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: All right, come up next, I don't know, maybe I'll
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: enter the transfer portal. Seems like it's what everybody's doing
• 46:06
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  Speaker 1: Happy New Year, sir.
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: H happy near you're tucking buck. It's great to hear.
• 46:49
  Speaker 12: Frob Fellows.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Did you ring in the New Year at any Did
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: you do anything special?
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: We did.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: We taught him my lovely wife and odd, didn't you.
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: I hot to Kansas City to visit one of the children,
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: and that's really uh even more portly.
• 47:05
  Speaker 12: We build a bunch of you know, blankets over the
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: chair of forts with the little grandkids, and I spent
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: forty eight hours on the floor. You know. My doc
• 47:13
  Speaker 12: is letting me know that I did it. But it was, uh,
• 47:16
  Speaker 12: it was worth every second of it.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Do kids just naturally pick up on the fort building
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: aspect or did you have to teach them that you
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: can build a fort out of couch cushions?
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 47:27
  Speaker 12: I think, you know in this day and age, because
• 47:29
  Speaker 12: everything is like so prepped, you know, and they get
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: on Amazon and can buy this like be configured fort.
• 47:34
  Speaker 12: I think when you go old school with them, the uh,
• 47:37
  Speaker 12: the light bulb kind of goes off, like, Man, I
• 47:40
  Speaker 12: didn't realize all this stuff that's been around me every
• 47:42
  Speaker 12: day we actually can do something with, you know. So
• 47:46
  Speaker 12: one thing I could say for my son and my
• 47:49
  Speaker 12: daughter in law. They're very creative and they do go
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: old school a bunch. And and the kids were the
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: fort was amazing. Were like the three or four room fort.
• 47:57
  Speaker 12: We were, you know, we were just killing.
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: It this week, you know.
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: And it was you know, I was the monster for
• 48:03
  Speaker 12: thirty seconds and then it was a half tiers and
• 48:05
  Speaker 12: then papped ope the monster, and then back to the monster.
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: It was awesome.
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: It was just.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Well, I love that there's not couch fort building the
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: video game, or that you know, your your children have
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a robot building the forts for their children.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Some old school things staying alive.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, well, let's dive into a few things.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Seahawks played a pretty big game against the San Francisco
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: forty nine ers on Saturday night.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard, but we won. And so,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: but there are a lot.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Of things in there that that can be discussed.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and start with this play.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings seemed to be very frustrated from the San
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers all night long. I mean, obviously
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: they weren't having much success, but he seemed frustrating on
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: the verge of wanting to fight on several different plays,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: and he actually did start one out of bounds with
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon, one of the seahawks best defenders, and they
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: were officials standing right there looking at it. Why would
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: there be no flag with that much activity taking place
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: that far out of bounds?
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: Geam, Yeah, you know that would chuck.
• 49:24
  Speaker 12: I thought at the end of the play, you kind
• 49:26
  Speaker 12: of got to throw a flag on the play, right,
• 49:28
  Speaker 12: I know it was on the opposite side of the
• 49:29
  Speaker 12: field where the end of the play happened.
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: Two players are.
• 49:32
  Speaker 12: Kind of engaged and and kind of going at each
• 49:36
  Speaker 12: other away from the play, and the actual contact is
• 49:40
  Speaker 12: on the field of play as they start riding each other,
• 49:44
  Speaker 12: you know, out of bounds. By rule though, that's fine
• 49:48
  Speaker 12: up until a point, but once we get in the
• 49:50
  Speaker 12: white and we're out of bounds, now you've got to
• 49:53
  Speaker 12: kind of disengage.
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: Right.
• 49:55
  Speaker 12: Our mantra was always once there are four feet in
• 49:57
  Speaker 12: the white, meaning both players that are engaged, jannalt of bounds,
• 50:01
  Speaker 12: the activity needs to stop at that point. And as
• 50:04
  Speaker 12: you said it, the Jenny's kind of took that in
• 50:06
  Speaker 12: a little bit further and wanted to finish Witherspoon right
• 50:09
  Speaker 12: out of bounds. So at that point, I think that's
• 50:14
  Speaker 12: when you go from trying to manage a game or
• 50:16
  Speaker 12: a situation to hey, listen, I've been here blowing my whistle.
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: You guys knew I was next.
• 50:21
  Speaker 12: To you, but you just couldn't resist, right like you
• 50:24
  Speaker 12: had to finish it. So for that reason, you know
• 50:27
  Speaker 12: we're going to fill fifteen.
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: And I think in that case.
• 50:30
  Speaker 12: That's kind of where my thought was on it, and
• 50:32
  Speaker 12: I thought that's really.
• 50:32
  Speaker 8: How they should have handled it. Well.
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: Usually when it happens, though, Gene, usually what because I
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: mean at the end, Devin Witherspoon gets up.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: And I think that Jennings was still down on the ground.
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: He was in the process of getting up, and then
• 50:44
  Speaker 6: he puts his hands up like, hey, I wasn't the one.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: It wasn't me, even though there was a little bit
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: of bolt. So is that really one where more often
• 50:52
  Speaker 6: than not you end up throwing the flag and then
• 50:54
  Speaker 6: you go offsetting penalties or an sportsmanker, unnecessary roughness whatever
• 50:59
  Speaker 6: on both teams.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Shame on you don't do it again. Nine happens.
• 51:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know.
• 51:05
  Speaker 12: What, Bucky, I mean that's a great point in part
• 51:07
  Speaker 12: of the NFL philosophy, and I know, at least the
• 51:09
  Speaker 12: years I was there, we always really stress to try
• 51:13
  Speaker 12: to get the first one right because if we're just
• 51:15
  Speaker 12: offsetting this thing, then really what are we gaining if
• 51:20
  Speaker 12: there's no harm, no no situation here. So there's there
• 51:23
  Speaker 12: a deterrent now to offset, so you want to get
• 51:25
  Speaker 12: the instigator. Many times you miss that, and I think
• 51:30
  Speaker 12: in this case, you know, maybe it's because it's a
• 51:33
  Speaker 12: physicality thing and on a taunt. See with a taunt
• 51:35
  Speaker 12: in the NFL, Okay, look, we can slight both of
• 51:38
  Speaker 12: you for tawning, and we put you both on alert
• 51:41
  Speaker 12: because now you both have one tawning file against you,
• 51:44
  Speaker 12: meaning that if you have another one today, it's going
• 51:47
  Speaker 12: to lead to your dismissal from the game. Now you
• 51:50
  Speaker 12: have a deterrent element in there that, yeah, let's flag
• 51:53
  Speaker 12: everybody involved and put them all on blast because now
• 51:56
  Speaker 12: they're one step away and now it becomes I think
• 51:59
  Speaker 12: more productive type of a foul.
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: But with physical.
• 52:01
  Speaker 12: Plays, they don't really put that extra level in right.
• 52:05
  Speaker 12: So that's something I think Competition Committee to talk about,
• 52:10
  Speaker 12: where you know, even though it's a physical situation and
• 52:12
  Speaker 12: unnecessary roughness as opposed to en sportsmanlike in certain situations.
• 52:17
  Speaker 12: Let's go ahead and apply this unnecessary roughness file and
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: add to it that in the event that there's an
• 52:24
  Speaker 12: unsportsmanlike or another unnecessary roughness play that falls in this category, we.
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: Can eject you.
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: Then.
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: I think filing, you know, flagging everyone is a better,
• 52:33
  Speaker 12: you know, kind of a better practice.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I kind of like the idea as I'm listening
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: to the two of you talk, all right, so you
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: you know, we can't expect you to see how it
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: all starts, even though that's the person that should get
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: the fifteen yard penalty, but you can see like the
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: guy that reacts the worst afterwards, Like you could give
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: offsetting fifteen yard personal foul penalties, but then fifteen yards
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: unsportsmanlike for whining against Juan Jenny or playing the victim,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and then you still get to hit him with the
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: fifteen yards in the aftermat following me there.
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: I like it, all right, I like it.
• 53:10
  Speaker 12: I think there's someone with the last name hockey Lely
• 53:13
  Speaker 12: somewhere that really is excited about that, because imagine that
• 53:17
  Speaker 12: announcement too, right, I mean, this is a long one,
• 53:19
  Speaker 12: so you know, everybody kind of sit back, relax, and
• 53:22
  Speaker 12: then let me get through.
• 53:23
  Speaker 7: This whole thing. You know, Yeah, I like it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: I like it.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: Jean's Territoris with Us a segment every week brought to
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: you by BMW Seattle. There was also a play rock
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: party steps out of bounds. It looked like he was
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: two yard shy. They marked him one yard shy. Then
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I still to this day don't know what happened Mike
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: McDonald was his challenge flag comes out of his pocket.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I guess he didn't throw it, and then he ends
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: up having to call in time out. I don't know
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: if he wasn't granted. I don't know if he's not
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: allowed to be granted. But it just seemed like a
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: really strange sequence. Do you have any way of it
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: explaining what went down there?
• 54:02
  Speaker 12: Ye, this is a good thing, you know, a little
• 54:04
  Speaker 12: bit confusing, reactionary. I think by the coach that's it.
• 54:08
  Speaker 12: I would say that dropping the flag or anadvertent After review,
• 54:12
  Speaker 12: I might have to say, you know, that might be overturned.
• 54:14
  Speaker 12: I think he threw the flag, you know, I mean
• 54:17
  Speaker 12: he but I think his reaction was he felt like
• 54:20
  Speaker 12: the spot of the play was egregiously missed. As you said, right,
• 54:24
  Speaker 12: it's not fourth and one instead of fourth and two,
• 54:27
  Speaker 12: which is a huge difference, especially in the push push era.
• 54:31
  Speaker 12: I think the extra yard means something. By rule, you
• 54:34
  Speaker 12: can't challenge just where you think that they missed the spot.
• 54:38
  Speaker 7: You have to.
• 54:39
  Speaker 12: Challenge a play in relation to the line the game
• 54:43
  Speaker 12: or to a touchdown or something to that effect. You
• 54:45
  Speaker 12: just can't throw a challenge flag and say, I think
• 54:47
  Speaker 12: you guys missed the spot by two yards if it
• 54:49
  Speaker 12: doesn't have a first down involved or something like that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 12: In this case, Seattle is still right. San Francisco's still
• 54:55
  Speaker 12: short of the line the game. Now if he plays
• 54:58
  Speaker 12: a little word solid and kind of plays PAULI throws
• 55:00
  Speaker 12: the flag and says, I want to challenge the ruling
• 55:02
  Speaker 12: as it relates to a first down, And then they
• 55:05
  Speaker 12: go look at the review and go, you know what,
• 55:08
  Speaker 12: what do you think did he get the first down?
• 55:09
  Speaker 12: I mean, why are you challenging it because you mark
• 55:11
  Speaker 12: the short. Be unique to see a defensive coach challenge
• 55:14
  Speaker 12: a play saying, hey, I think it's a first down.
• 55:17
  Speaker 12: But once they get into review and if they can
• 55:20
  Speaker 12: legally get in right by the rules, now they can
• 55:23
  Speaker 12: adjust the spot of the football. So I think, what
• 55:26
  Speaker 12: we you know, So there's a kind of just loopage, right,
• 55:29
  Speaker 12: I mean, as it relates to the procedure, and then
• 55:33
  Speaker 12: we can all ask this too in situations like that
• 55:37
  Speaker 12: with this new toy we have and use more frequently
• 55:40
  Speaker 12: than we ever have before with replay assists, you see
• 55:43
  Speaker 12: an egregiously or ronalsy misspot on a play with a
• 55:47
  Speaker 12: pending fourth down, which is in a huge situation, why
• 55:51
  Speaker 12: does it replay assist just come down and move the
• 55:53
  Speaker 12: football backyard because it was a pretty clean you know,
• 55:57
  Speaker 12: we saw the foot. You gotta just all you have
• 55:59
  Speaker 12: to do, now stick where's the football in the foot?
• 56:01
  Speaker 12: It's the white and put the football there and fixed this.
• 56:04
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 56:04
  Speaker 12: But then when you have that flag that is thrown
• 56:08
  Speaker 12: and now a coach calls time out, it's kind of
• 56:10
  Speaker 12: a double whammy because really, if you think that he
• 56:14
  Speaker 12: really intentionally throws the flag and then has a reaction
• 56:17
  Speaker 12: following that flag which he can't throw there, and then
• 56:20
  Speaker 12: he calls the time out.
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: By rule, the truth of it is you charge him
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: with the time out he called.
• 56:26
  Speaker 12: He now has thrown a flag that is on a
• 56:27
  Speaker 12: play that isn't challengeable, which he stopped the game by
• 56:30
  Speaker 12: if you say it that way and you charge him
• 56:32
  Speaker 12: another time out, you know. So there was a lot
• 56:35
  Speaker 12: of levels there and officials like to not get to
• 56:39
  Speaker 12: that place, so saying that the flag fell out of
• 56:42
  Speaker 12: his hand, saying that he kind of misinterpreted what we
• 56:47
  Speaker 12: could what could be challenged and I went over there
• 56:49
  Speaker 12: and corrected it real quick, and let's just put it
• 56:51
  Speaker 12: away and I can give you.
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: A kind of a do over there. You know, you
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: try to stay away from that, right, And I think
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: that's kind of where we probably ended at the end
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: of the day with that. But there were a lot
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: of layers there.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, gee, I'm gonna ask one more just on kind
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: of the spotting, because to me, I don't get all
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: that frustrated with calls.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's.
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: You know, it's not an easy thing to do with
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: you guys, referees, even baseball umpires do and yet it's
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. To me, it feels like there should
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: be some sort of way of having micro chips on
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: the tips of the ball and around the center of it,
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: something do where you actually can use technology to know
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: exactly where the ball was like where the ford progress stopped,
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: and then you'd have to sync that up to okay,
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: well when was the knee down? And that to me
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: seems like you could use technology to do it because
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: there's so many times where you see the two linesmen
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: coming in and one is a foot off of where
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: the other one is or a yard off of where
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: the other one is, and that can be the difference
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: between winning.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: And losing a game.
• 57:49
  Speaker 6: Would you be in for instituting technology in the ball
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: to kind of help you guys or help the spots
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: of the ball.
• 57:56
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I think one, Ny, and I think you
• 58:00
  Speaker 12: hit it. I mean where it becomes really difficult is
• 58:03
  Speaker 12: and we've seen these many times too, right, and that
• 58:06
  Speaker 12: is when is the body part down to put the
• 58:09
  Speaker 12: player down by contact by rule, and then let's look
• 58:11
  Speaker 12: to see where the ball is at that moment as well. Right,
• 58:13
  Speaker 12: So the chip in the ball is great if a
• 58:16
  Speaker 12: player is airborne and diving for the goal line and
• 58:19
  Speaker 12: we could have a freeze frame there because the breaking
• 58:22
  Speaker 12: of the plane and the chip could put a sensor off.
• 58:24
  Speaker 12: When we have these plays and these massive bodies and
• 58:27
  Speaker 12: now we just see like the right shin once the
• 58:30
  Speaker 12: ankle rolls does go down? Okay, where's that football at
• 58:34
  Speaker 12: that point?
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: You know, how do we get that indicator?
• 58:37
  Speaker 12: Like, how does you know unless we just censored up.
• 58:40
  Speaker 12: Maybe we just put little mini sensors on every part
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: of every player's body that would put him down by
• 58:45
  Speaker 12: contact and the moment that that body part hits it
• 58:48
  Speaker 12: triggers the ball, you know, or something like that, which
• 58:51
  Speaker 12: would be a lot of sensors. I think it'd be
• 58:52
  Speaker 12: a lot of little little dots on your body.
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: But I think that's.
• 58:56
  Speaker 12: Where they're running into that piece of this where they
• 58:59
  Speaker 12: can't us do exactly what you said, because we do
• 59:03
  Speaker 12: know and again, as you said, Bunky, like two feet
• 59:06
  Speaker 12: in this game cauld be the difference of a possession,
• 59:10
  Speaker 12: which we all know or.
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: Just so important, right, So we want to get that
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: thing right.
• 59:16
  Speaker 8: And I know when I.
• 59:17
  Speaker 12: Worked at the line of scrimmage officials in the NFL
• 59:19
  Speaker 12: in the old days when we didn't have even replay assists,
• 59:23
  Speaker 12: they wore their ability to spot footballs and be able
• 59:28
  Speaker 12: to know when that body part went down and.
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: Where that ball was.
• 59:31
  Speaker 12: That was like their badge of honor, right, Like they
• 59:33
  Speaker 12: really were detailed personally with it.
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: They were also.
• 59:37
  Speaker 12: Challenged to have to get them right without anybody helping either.
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: So I think their level.
• 59:42
  Speaker 12: Of awareness on really focusing there and knowing there's no
• 59:45
  Speaker 12: safety that might be or have been at a higher
• 59:48
  Speaker 12: level than maybe we are today when hey, replay can
• 59:52
  Speaker 12: fix it, you know, So just get in the neighborhood
• 59:54
  Speaker 12: and then replay can fix it. So but it is
• 59:57
  Speaker 12: something you'd love to see technology fix because we want
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 12: to get those right by the inchest.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: So you couldn't do like they do in long jump
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: and just have like a thin layer of sand over
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: the field and you see where the intention of the
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: ball is and then you just then you just rake
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: over it every between every play.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: What do you think.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: It's great something else that just starts to float in
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 7: the game.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 12: Hold on a minute, there's a lot of you manager
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 12: just slid across the sand. There'd be like nine guys
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 12: out there in the bunker trying to get it all level,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 12: you know, because we had a good push.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 7: Imagine the divot that would create.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: It would be.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Great Jean's territories with us.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: One last one from the Seahawks game, there was a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: false start against our tight end aj Barner near the
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: end of the first quarter, and people are still asking
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: me about it on social media and wanting me to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: ask you about it. Uh, it just looked like a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: normal shift. We got flagged with a false start.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 12: Why head scratcher? Like a normal shift to me. Now,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 12: when they do, you know, when they do move like that,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 12: if a player, even though they are just shifting, what
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 12: happened to shift in a little more abrupt fashion.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 7: Than what you would think would be normal, then.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 12: You can always go on the box that they simulated
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 12: a snapper. There was a simulation in there that felt
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 12: normal to me. You know, I kind of replayed it
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 12: four or times in real speed just to get the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 12: essence of it so that I could at least speak
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 12: as honestly as I can. Just looks like a normal
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 12: step back, step off, my on and my off, and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 12: let's play football. In a reaction by the largest scrimmage
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 12: official that I think they may want to have back
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 12: after looking at them.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Jeane stertur with us right here on the Chuck and Buck.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: There was a driving rainstorm Saturday in the Buccaneers Panthers game,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: and I think the only thing that was falling on
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the ground harder were booze from Panthers fans about the officiating.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: They won the award for most.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Complaints about the officiating over the weekend Panthers fans. There
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: were several plays that are brought into question. I think
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: the one that bothered Panther fans the most was an
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: offensive pass interference against Tetoroa McMillan, their star wide receiver,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: where he did certainly make contact with the defensive back,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: but I think a lot of people thought that was just.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: A wide receiver move.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: So what was your take on that play and any
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: others that you would want to weigh in on.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 12: Yeah, as quick as I could do it for it, Chuck, Yeah,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 12: I think some of that feverish stitch may have been,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 12: you know, kind of initiated by the by the comments
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 12: from the from the color analysts.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 7: Quite honestly, to me, that's OPI that's just a foul.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 8: Sorry.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: Listen for offensive pass and appearance.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 12: Once you get beyond one yard in the NFL, uh
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 12: and before the ball is even thrown or anything of
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 12: that nature. Displacing a defensive back like you see him
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 12: do there, that's not hands fighting. He's displacing the defensive
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 12: back and taking him a step away from.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: A play that's that's just a big file to me.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 12: Now, those that say, yeah, but why did the official
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 12: weight to throw the flag?
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 7: The flag comes too late.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 12: I mean it looks like he thought about it and
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 12: then decided to stick it up Carolin, as you know
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 12: or whatever.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 7: You can't throw.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 12: Offensive passive afference until there's a pass. So when you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 12: see that action happen and that receiver throws that player
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 12: not a hold, just to throw away, kind of block
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 12: him away or discard him. You're watching now, And when
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: that football leaves the quarterback's hand, provided it's a forward
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 12: pass and not a backward pass, the moment it leaves
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 12: his hand, then the flag goes down for offensive passive
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: appearence because the offensive restriction occurs when the player is
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 12: one yard beyond the line of scrimmage.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: I thought that was a layup to me.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 12: Then they were a little upset, if I remember correctly.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 12: On they said it was heat entanglement and didn't think
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 12: it was defensive pass interference because they thought their feet
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: were tangled. Yes, their feet were tangled, but the defensive
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 12: back was severely out of position and trying to close
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 12: on a receiver who beat him egregiously. He never turns
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 12: his head around to say the football, And now our
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 12: feet get tangled because we're both trying to adjust to
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 12: the ball. He's just chasing someone because he got beat.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 12: When you're chasing someone like that and your feet get tangled,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 12: it's a foul because you're just trying to close the gap.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 12: And now you flipped me without adjusting to a football
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 12: because you don't know what the ball is.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 7: Foul there as well.
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  Speaker 12: The one I think Carolina has a gripe with when
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 12: a player is holding someone else's helmet at the end
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 12: of the play and it doesn't match the rest of
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 12: your uniform. That usually is one that pana you know,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 12: get you, you.
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  Speaker 8: Know, going a little bit.
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  Speaker 12: I remember my older brother Tony was on my crew
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 12: and in the late Sarah Gusa Baltimore had that situation
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 12: occurr and my brother was maybe in his fourth or
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 12: fifth year and he throws the flag and Sarah Gusa
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 12: turns around and starts yelling at him and you know,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 12: what are you doing? And he goes, take a look
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 12: at your right hand, and Sarah goose to looked down.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 12: It was a Cleveland brown helmet. He goes, it's not
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 12: matching your uniform, right, you know, I think you're in
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 12: trouble here. And and Goots, being the great guy that
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 12: he was, he kind of tried to drop the helmet
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 12: real quick, but he realized it was a file. So
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  Speaker 12: that one I got to give to uh to the
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  Speaker 12: Carolina fans. The other two, quite honestly, I just thought
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 12: those were appreciated plays. And I think sometimes when we
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 12: as analysts go into that rabbit hole and start to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 12: say a little more than maybe the situation, you know, dictates,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 12: you can create a more feverish pitch.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that may have been the case of
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 7: these two.
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  Speaker 2: Fair fair Maybe everybody was just tired of being soggy
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: that day. All right, last one, I gotta I gotta
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: ask you about the end of the old Miss Georgia game.
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  Speaker 2: And look, I realized, letter of the law, there was
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: still a second on the clock in that crazy situation
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: where there was a safety. But would you have just said, hey,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: let's just expire this thing, or would you have been
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: the official that allows the halftime stage to be brought
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: out in the middle of the.
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  Speaker 13: Field twice twet team and then had it cleared off
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 13: along with all the fans and confetti and there was
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 13: ice on the field. Would you have just gathered with
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 13: everybody and said, I don't know about you, but my
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 13: watch says the.
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  Speaker 1: Game is over. What would you have done in that situation?
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  Speaker 14: Man?
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  Speaker 12: That's again, this is this whole replay fraction of a
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 12: second of a second thing that the box And yeah,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 12: I would have done exactly what you said. And by rule,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 12: even though the receiving team doesn't touch that on sidekick
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 12: and the kicking team recovers their own onside kick, legally,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 12: by rule, an entire second doesn't have to expire. It
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 12: could be a fraction right now. In the old days,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 12: before we got into this micro managing, our kind of
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 12: rule on the field was, look at one second's got
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 12: to come off the clock. We've got to see it
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  Speaker 12: change because we did have something occur here. And even
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 12: though the kicking team can advance it and yes it's
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 12: dead immediately, well we have to start the play to
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 12: stop the play. So we used to be able to say,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 12: you know, it's a one.
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  Speaker 7: Now in this day of Pence, you kind of get
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  Speaker 7: in that moment.
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  Speaker 12: As you said, an awful lot of hard work for
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: the ground crew. Man, you want to talk about people
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 12: like raking the sand on the field.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 7: Imagine you know that grounds crew.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 12: Looking at everybody, going, wait about what? You can't bring
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 12: the confetti back into the ceiling here?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: You know, it was kind of a.
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  Speaker 12: Premature, you know what I mean, My goodness, Graces, the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 12: party's over. You know, let's all have a cigar.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, I would have liked to see that done.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: Old school.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: That was a mess. All right, Jeane, where are you
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: going to be this weekend?
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  Speaker 7: Jacksonville, Florida.
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  Speaker 12: We've got the Buffalo Bills at the jack excited now
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 12: because you all know and listen the way we're playing
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 12: the Seattle. What a great situation to be in. You
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 12: talk about the advantages of home field, what crowds can do,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 12: what fans can do. It's a huge That's what made
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 12: that game us We really so huge, and Kyle Shanahan
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 12: knew that instead of Seattle. So just kudos to the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 12: fan base, to the team, and now from an officiating
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 12: window and everybody else.
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  Speaker 7: This is when it gets really fun, guys, you.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 12: Know, I mean, this is when this thing cranks up
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 12: another notch and it's just exciting times. And for me personally,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 12: I get the luxury to be with Kim and Tony
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 12: and Tracy on location for the next three weeks. So
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 12: I get to feel that stadium vibe again right in
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 12: the tailgates and the colosseums are loaded with angry people
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 12: and excited people, and it's all about to happen. It's
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 12: a great month, a great time, and an unbelievable week
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 12: this week for football lovers. What from Thursday until sometime
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 12: at midnight or one in the morning on early Tuesday morning.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 7: For East Coasters.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 12: Just a smorgasborg of great football here coming up. So
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 12: doesn't get better than this, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and for what it's worth, I think you've got
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: the most interesting game of the entire weekend. So enjoy
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: it and we'll talk to you next week.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 7: You've got it, fellas.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: Have a great week, all right, Jeane Sterrator brought to
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  Speaker 2: three point three kha RFM. We'll talk more about Sam
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Donald coming up a little bit later on in the hour,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: but joining us now, he calls the games for a
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: red hot hockey team all of a sudden.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: And you know what they said at the end of Unbreakable.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: It was the kids. They called me, miss the glass.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: What's the key to the turnaround? It's the kids, Everett
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: fits you. It is Winterton and Myers and Melanson. Where
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: did this spark come from? We got a hot hockey
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: team all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 15: Listen you you've got a fourth line and you've got.
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  Speaker 10: A bunch of kids who.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 15: I mean, it sounds very cliche, but they play the
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 15: game the right way, and it's almost as if they
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 15: each have something to prove the way that they're playing.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 15: They're playing like they could be taken out of the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 15: lineup at any given time.
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  Speaker 10: And it's been real refreshing to see.
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  Speaker 15: I've been watching and reading a lot of stuff from
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 15: the national experts, if you will, about Jacob Allanson and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 15: how he's really helped set the tone for this team.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 15: He had four hits the other night. He's won eleven games,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 15: ten games in to the season, and he already has
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 15: fifty some odd hits. I mean, that is absolutely bonkers.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 15: And he gets his first goal last night. He has
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 15: a couple of really strong chances as well. I mean,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 15: he probably could have four or five goals by now.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 15: Remember he scored fifty at the junior level, not five
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 15: years ago. So Jacob Malanson is a player that when
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 15: you're looking for an identity, he is the type of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 15: player that you want other guys to model their game after,
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  Speaker 15: especially a team like this.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, well, I mean I'm just real quick on kind
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  Speaker 6: of a subtle note. Then, I mean, is that a
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: guy maybe I should pick up for my fantasy hockey
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: team that I got Jacob Allonson.
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  Speaker 10: Depending depending on what stats you keep.
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  Speaker 15: I mean, if it's our stat league. Okay, offensively again,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 15: you know, I mean, he's not going to be throwing
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 15: up madd Evanier's numbers. Maybe, I don't know, but I mean,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 15: if you're if you're looking, if you've got more of
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 15: a a physical league.
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  Speaker 10: If you have more of a underlying.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 15: Metrics league than I would, I would pick up Jacob
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 15: Allanson for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll tell you what though.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of passes and assists and the kids, that pass
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: from myers to right last night was one of the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: best passes I can remember watching hockey.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 10: That was I mean, that was this pure skill play.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 15: And and when you when you talk about a guy
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 15: like Shane Wright or Matty Beniers or Berkeley Catton, you know,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 15: the young centers on the team, the guys that you're
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 15: hopefully in the next two to three years going to
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 15: fully turn the keys to the car over to.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, those are the type.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 15: Of plays that you want to see when when you're
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 15: looking at other teams in the league who are in
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 15: first place, perennial playoff teams, we talk about how the Kraken.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 10: Doesn't have a superstar. They don't have this, they don't
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 10: have that. That's a superstar play, right.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 15: Those are the plays that McKinnon and McDavid and to
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 15: Brinkett and Kit Chuck and Robertson. Those are the plays
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 15: that we're talking about that you make in tight. These
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 15: are the guys that stay late after practice every single day.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 15: They're working with Jess Campbell on extra skill work as well.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 15: I mean, it really just goes to show you the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 15: commitment that the younger players on this team, the Coachella
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 15: Valley kids and and the guys who who are our
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 15: prize are primed.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 10: Employees for a long career this league.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 15: That's work they're putting in so they can do stuff
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 15: like that in real time.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, we're watching it feels like just last week
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 6: when we were talking that this team was down near
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: the bottom of the standings.
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  Speaker 10: I think at one point it doesn't feel like last week.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: It was last week.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, then I'm yeah, I wasn't far off or I
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: was right on with that, But now they're a point
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: out of first place. I mean, is this a normal
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 6: type of a turnaround or is this something that you're
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: that you're witnessing that is even kind of maybe closer
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: to historic as far as the way in which the
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: team's playing compared to where they were.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 10: You know, I wouldn't say it's normal. This season isn't normal.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 15: You're you're in a condensed schedule because of the Olympics.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 15: I mean, the Kraken Tonight will wrap up their fourth
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 15: consecutive set of back to back games. Each of their
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 15: last after tonight, each of their previous eight games will
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 15: have been in back to back situation, which I've never
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 15: heard of. The crack and play every other day, literally
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 15: every other day for the rest of the month. They
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 15: don't have two more days off until I think it's
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 15: January thirty first and February first, the first and the second,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 15: something like that. So this season isn't normal. And if
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  Speaker 15: you look at the Western Conference, it is so stacked up.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 15: Even the last place in the West is only five
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 15: points back of the final playoff spot. You go out east,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 15: the Seattle Kraken would still be in a tie for
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 15: second to last in the conference, five points back of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 15: a playoff spot out east. So I do think that
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 15: what the Kraken have been able to do, given their situation,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 15: given the place that they're in, is definitely historic. You're
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 15: now on your third, your third ever eight game point
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 15: streaking franchise, So I mean they're finding ways to win games.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 15: If you look at the last eight games, they've scored
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 15: three or four goals in seven of those eight games.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 15: They've allowed one or two goals in seven of those
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 15: eight games. So it's the system they're finally finding out
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 15: and figuring out how to turn some of these bad
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 15: losses into wins. And historic might be a little bit early, however,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 15: I do think if they're on that path of this
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 15: is going to be a team that if they keep
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 15: playing this way, which all sides point to them being
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 15: able to They're gonna go into the Olympic break in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 15: a pretty good spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and back to back again tonight as they play
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: turn right back around face the Bruins tonight. That's three
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: in the last fifteen days. I mean, is I take
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: it every one in the National Hockey League's playing a
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: schedule like this?
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they are.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 15: And again it all goes back to the Olympic break
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 15: because the NHL wants to get all eighty two games
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 15: in the same window. I mean, your Day one was
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 15: October what fifteenth, and then right now, I think Game
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 15: seven of the Cup Final projects to be around June
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 15: twenty fifth around there. So they're still trying to fit
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 15: all of these games into the same window because you've
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 15: got three weeks off. So everyone's playing a schedule like this,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 15: everyone's injured, everyone's getting hurt. You're hoping the Olympics don't
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 15: compound that at all. Luckily for Seattle, there's only three
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 15: regulars going to the Olympics, with Grubauer for Germany, Tolvenen
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 15: and Coppo Cocko for Finland. But so the Kraken should
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 15: come out of that break in a relatively good spot.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was just, yeah, that makes total mathematical sense.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: I was just speaking, are they just are they having
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: as many of these back to back games as what
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: I mean a year ago, if you had told me
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: they were gonna have to play three back to back
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: games in fifteen days, I'm like, well, that's three wins, max,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: if that's going to happen.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: But it's been a little different this year.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: All right, So Bruins tonight, I mean, classic organization, classic uniform,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: and a similar record to Seattle right now, so what
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: can we expect this evening?
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: Give me a breakdown.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 15: I think a very similar game to the Crack honestly,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 15: I mean they're they're a little bit more offensive than
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 15: Seattle with David Pasha, notk and Morgan Geek, which, by
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 15: the way, ye oh my goodness, he led the NHL
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 15: in goals in the calendar year twenty twenty five. He
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 15: had fifty goals in the year twenty twenty five, so
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 15: and he doesn't show any signs of slowing down, although
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 15: he only has got four goals in his last thirteen
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 15: twelve thirteen games coming into tonight, so maybe he's cooled
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 15: off a little bit.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 10: But you're gonna get a very hard working team.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 15: Markle Sturm, the coach over there, he is a coach
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 15: who wants his teams to work hard, not unlike Lane Lambert.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 15: So tonight, with the Kraken coming off of the back
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 15: to back, Joey the coort is gonna have to be strong.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 15: Blaine Lambert has said multiple times this season, our goaltending
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 15: has to be our best player. Joey's gonna have to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 15: be that here tonight. But I have a feeling this
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 15: is gonna be another you know, I say classic. It's
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 15: only been forty games in the season, but this is
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 15: gonna be another I think classic kracking game, tight, two
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 15: to one, three to one defensive game. But I mean,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 15: as long as you're putting up points, as long as
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 15: you're still winning, I don't care if it's won nothing,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 15: You know that, that's what's important.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 10: So if they can continue what's made them successful.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 15: They've won two of their last three game twos of
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 15: back to backs, They've got points in three straight game
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 15: twos of back to back, So I mean an.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 8: Opportunity for them to do something that they haven't done.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 10: Since year three of this organization. And that's when three
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 10: games on a back to.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 8: Back in a row.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: All right, well close with this.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: What is the broadcast schedule?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Are you radio or TV? What's going on? What is
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: happening to nice?
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 10: I am telling I am radio tonight.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 15: I've got I do when John is on national duties,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 15: when we are on the road, I do the road game.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 15: So I've got Monday in New York. I've gotten next
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 15: Wednesday in Jersey on television, and then I have February fourth,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 15: which is a Wednesday in LA And then I have
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 15: April sixth, I believe, which.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 10: Is in Winnipeg.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 15: So as of now, I got four more TV games
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 15: the rest of the year, so I will not I
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 15: won't stray too far from home.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: I promise.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: All right, all right, thank you sir.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: We appreciate great to hear from your happy new year,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: and we'll be listening tonight.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 15: Fellas Ashley, Happy new year, enjoy the bye week.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you very much, and sorry sorry about them.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: You know what's happened up there in Detroit? You know
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: we we love you up there in Detroit.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: What do you mean the Pistons are crushing it me.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the number one.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 10: Teams are killing it.
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  Speaker 15: I don't know why you're apologizing for a first place
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  Speaker 15: NBA team, Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I get a freaking f for that comment. Red Wing
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: Journey first, red Wing Jurns first.
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  Speaker 15: Yeahs are projecting to be well this year.
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  Speaker 10: That's all that.
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  Speaker 8: That's all that there is.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, you're right.
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  Speaker 15: Michigan's got a new head coach, the football team, everything,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 15: Michigan basketball is number two.
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  Speaker 10: Why are you apologizing?
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  Speaker 15: It's pretty good over in the Midton right now, nothing
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  Speaker 15: nothing else is going on.
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  Speaker 14: It is college fall and I want you to get
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, nine o'clock hour here on this Tuesday morning.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan, Bucky Jacobson, and Chuck Powell with you. The
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: old Judge stops by today at nine thirty and Rick
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: new Isel expected to join us here this morning, as
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: obvious by the intro that we just played.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: But we don't have contact with him yet.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: You know, all those new responsibilities he's got Dallas Renegade's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: head coach, you know, father of the now famous Jerry
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: new High School. You know, there's just a lot still
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  Speaker 2: the CBS sports college football guys, who's got big games
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: to prepare for.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: I would imagine Rick new Isol's got a few irons
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: in the fire.
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  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, yeah, But I mean I don't know where
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: we're at. You know, he's got a full plate of things,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: you know, but I don't consider us like the green
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 6: beans that are on the plate.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: You know, probably the priority, probably entre.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: I would think at least at least like a steak bite,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: you know, I mean like something, maybe got the whole steak.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 6: But he better show up because I need to talk
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: to him about college football.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I do too, I do too. Yeah, I think we're
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: the steak in the gravy. You think that's the way
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: we are? Okay, Yeah, man, I'm gonna give us. I
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: feel more like I'm mashed potatoes. But that's good, all right?
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: Joining us now is Coach new Aizel. I mean, yeah,
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: I know you're busy these days, so you know we
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: appreciate you making time for us here.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 14: Coach, I've got you both on my list of guys
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 14: to contact about signing with the Dallas Renegade. I just
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 14: want you to know that, Yeah, I've looked at some
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 14: film and both of you can help us.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 14: I'm not going to tell you exactly how, but I'm
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 14: just going to tell you can help us.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Last time I played football, I was a varsity one
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five pound tight end slash defensive end.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: You got use for that?
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  Speaker 8: I do?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 7: I have use for that.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 14: We are holding the far side of the chains. Okay,
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 14: actually you I'm not sure we have that in the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 14: import You might be the change.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: Of that lay down Chuck stretch out.
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  Speaker 14: Duck says, it's the first down renegade first.
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  Speaker 3: It's first in chuck out here in Dallas.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Well, Bucky, my Bucky's actually been training, so he might
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: be closer to being ready for you.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah. It was pretty broke down, though, coach. I
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 6: think I could probably just hold up a spot. I mean,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: like lay down like they try to defend the tush push.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: I can lay down in front of the center.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 14: Well, you've heard the term gap. You've heard the term
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 14: gap control. You just have the A gap. I won't
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 14: tell you how to do it. You just be in
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 14: the A gap.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 8: There you go.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: I'll give it a shot.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Will you use the tush push now that you're back
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: in coaching, is that something you can't wait to unleash?
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 14: You know, it's an I don't like to play Esthetically,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 14: it's unpleasing to me. Now I understand and that if
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 14: you're really good at it, that you don't want to
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 14: give it away, which the Eagles have been incredibly successful
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 14: with it. But it just doesn't feel like football. And
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 14: yet that was the beginnings of football, and I thought
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 14: we remember triculated away from it, so I would vote
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 14: it out.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: I voted that so we won't see that in the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: Renegades game plan. All right, Well, let's talk a little
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: college football. I thought Hannah Storm was lying to me
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: this morning. And I don't know why Hannah would lie
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: to me when I heard her say that there are
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: over forty eight hundred players and the transfer portal. Right now,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to do the math, Mike, are there even
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: five thousand players in college football? And I mean, that
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: is just staggering to me. So we talked about it
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit earlier this morning. Bucky's like, that just
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: cannot be. That just cannot continue. Your reaction to knowing
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: that five thousand players were not happy with the program
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: that they were in and can now go without penalty
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: somewhere else.
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  Speaker 14: Well, I think that it's important for people to realize
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 14: that the portal is used in a variety of ways.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 14: Certainly the most notable way and the way that we
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 14: all as fans look at it as players looking to
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 14: make more money, that players go into that deal with
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 14: an opportunity to earn more. And right now, the Arizona
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 14: State quarterback Sam Levitt is out there in the wilderness.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 14: I think he's visiting LSU. I thought he visited maybe
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 14: last night. Maybe he's still on campus there today, but
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 14: he's in a catbird seat because the kid from Indiana,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 14: Brendan Sorosby, already signed with Texas Tech, who has more
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 14: money than God. And they so now Lane Kiffin, knowing
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 14: that Trinidad Shambliss has said he's going to stay at
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 14: Ole Miss if he gets the extra year of eligibility,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 14: Lane Keifvin has to get Sam Leather, he has to
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 14: get him. So they're going to open their checkbook and
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 14: pay it. That's one type of transfer, and there's a
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 14: number of those kids out there, but not nearly as
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 14: many as we think. The other portion of the transfer
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 14: portal are people that are being pushed into it by
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 14: either new coaching staffs or old coaching staffs that have
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 14: deemed that that kid isn't as good as we thought
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 14: he was, and so therefore we've encouraged him to go
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 14: into the portal and find some place more suitable for him.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 14: That's what happens. More often than not. Coaches are using
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 14: the portal to get rid of players that they find
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 14: unproductive so that they can go out and get hopefully
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 14: a better version of that same player. The old days
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 14: of coaching, when I was a part of this is
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 14: the adage was it's not those who you lose in recruiting.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: That gets you beat.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 14: It's those who you get in recruiting that can't play
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 14: that gets you beat. And now because of the portal,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 14: we are pushing those guys out of the program. And
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 14: I find it kind of distasteful because we're the ones
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 14: who went in those living rooms and said, hey, this
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 14: kid's going to be wonderful in our program, and now
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 14: we're basically, four months later, able to excommunicate him because
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 14: he didn't turn out as good as we thought he was.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 14: To me, there's the problem in college athletics. We don't
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 14: owe these kids anything in our minds if they don't
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 14: produce on the field. And yet we were in there
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 14: not so very long ago promising an education and we're
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 14: not delivering on that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, coach.
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  Speaker 6: It just seems ugly, I mean, maybe more, maybe uglier
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 6: than the Toush push even I don't know how long
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: you can sustain it the way well, I mean.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 14: We've got we've got we've got four teams left in
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 14: the college football playoffs, right. Trinidad Shambliss is the quarterback
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 14: at ole Miss. He's a transfer from farri State Division two.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 14: That story we love, that story, we absolutely love. Then
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 14: we've got Carson Beck. That's who Ole Miss will play.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 14: Carson Beck left Georgia for four million dollars to go
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 14: to Miami. That story we don't like. We don't sit
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 14: there and think that that story. Wait a minute, four
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 14: million bucks, what are we doing here? And then you've
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 14: got the other dame. You've got Fernando Mendoza who was
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 14: going to Yale, got a late scholarship from cal and
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 14: then got to go to Indiana, which obviously is doing well.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 14: And we don't mind that story. I don't know what
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 14: Fernando's making. I have no idea what Signetty was able
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 14: to offer him. We don't mind that story. And they're
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 14: playing Dante More who was at UCLA and transferred to
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 14: Oregon and actually sat a year, and I know he
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 14: was handsomely compensated to remember he was recruited and committed
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 14: to Oregon before going to UCLA for an attractive offer
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 14: because Kenny Dillingham had left to go be the head
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 14: coach at Arizona State. So we okay, we're okay. But
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 14: the world that we're in right now, where Soresby's going
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 14: to make five million bucks, all these guys are out there,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 14: it's a wilderness that is so new and so unfettered.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 14: It has to get fixed. And until we fix that,
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 14: we're going to be unsettled in this industry. And I
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 14: don't know if it requires a commissioner. I don't know
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 14: if it requires collective bargaining. I don't know if it
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 14: requires all of it, but I know it requires something,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 14: because no one's sitting here loving the situation that we're at,
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 14: especially when we've got coaches coming and going, and now
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 14: we've got two guys that coached in the Sugar Bowl
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 14: that aren't going to coach in the Fiesta Bowl this
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 14: week with old miss because Lane Kippen needs them to
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 14: go get transfers. It just makes no sense we're not
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 14: finishing what we start. And we think about education, that's
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 14: one of the first axioms that we think is important
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 14: in life. Finish what you start, to be committed, and
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 14: we're doing anything but commitment.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 6: Good word, I'm with you, coach. All right, Well, we
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: were the College playoffs. We're heading towards the semi finals.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: But before we get into that, what was the biggest
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 6: takeaway or standout thing that you saw in the quarterfinals?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: You know, Miami upset in Ohio State, Oregon puts up
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 6: a goose egg against Texas Tech, and then there's the
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 6: blowout Indiana blowing out Alabama, or Ole miss upset in Georgia.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: What was your biggest takeway from that weekend?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 14: Well, they were all interesting and noteworthy, but Indiana's world
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 14: is an incredible world. I can't emphasize it enough. There
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 14: aren't enough exclamation points to say what Signetti has meant
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 14: to that program. Do you realize prior to that Rose
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 14: Bowl victory over Alabama, which in and by itself a
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 14: thirty five to three victory over Alabama is unbelievable. If
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 14: I'd have told you two years ago, Indiana will beat
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 14: Alabama thirty five to three in a Rose Bowl. You'd
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 14: have had me committed, You'd have had me committed, and
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 14: yet there it was on display. The last bowl win
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 14: that Indiana had prior to that was in the early
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 14: nineties in what was called the Copper Bowl. That was
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 14: the last time Indiana won a bowl game.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 7: Wow, in the.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 14: Early nineties, in what was called the Copper Bowl. That's
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 14: what's happened. That's an incredible undertaking, and it's no accident.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 14: That was a bludgeting. He's got a great offensive line,
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 14: he's got a great defensive line. But what he's really
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 14: got is an NFL secondary. He's got NFL wide receivers,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 14: and he's got a quarterback who's brilliant that probably will
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 14: be the first pick in the draft. And I wouldn't
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 14: be surprised if the Raiders make a run at Signetti
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 14: and say we want Signetti and and his quarterback. I
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 14: wouldn't be surprised if that happens.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: That rumors going around a little bit out there right now.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: So does Oregon fare any better in the rematch against
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 2: the Hoosiers on Friday.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 14: It will be a tremendous undertaking. Because you've got to
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 14: remember that Will Stein is Now he just got a
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 14: quarterback at the Minshi kid, Kenny Minschie. He got him
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 14: to flip from Nebraska to Kentucky. So imagine how many
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 14: man hours in conversation hours that took to get that
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 14: done to get him to come to Kentucky while you're
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 14: also getting ready to take on a defense that held
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 14: you to forty one yards in the second half when
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 14: you played the first time in Eugene. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 14: how do you do all that? Are the receivers good
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 14: enough to beat this NFL secondary? Are the can you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 14: run the ball against this team when they basically stopped
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 14: it the last time? If Oregon wins this game, it's
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 14: going to be one of the great coaching jobs in
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 14: recent memory by Dan Lanning and his staff, given all
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 14: the other things that are on their list of things
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 14: to do. So I gotta lean. As much as I
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 14: love Dan Lanning and I love the duck story, I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 14: got a lean towards Indiana.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: And that game.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 6: How about the Miami Ole miss How about that game?
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of you run that one as well.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 14: Obviously it's fascinating. There's an old saying about a coach
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 14: being asked who's going to win the championship. He says,
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 14: I don't know who it's going to be, but I
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 14: know what they're going to look like, and they're going.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 8: To look like Miami.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 14: Miami has a defensive front four that doesn't need to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 14: have a linebacker add to the pass rush to put
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 14: pressure on the quarterback. This Mesador and Baine are fantastic
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 14: defensive ends. They put pressure on the A and M quarterback.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 14: They put pressure on Saying for Ohio State, and they
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 14: have been the key to this run that the Hurricanes
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 14: are on. And they've also realized that the games that
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 14: they lost, Carson Becks through six interceptions in those two games,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 14: so they're not letting him throw. He only threw for
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 14: one hundred and two yards against an M and one
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 14: hundred and thirty eight against Ohio State and they still
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 14: won the game. So they're going to have Mark Fletcher
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 14: run the ball. Remember Old is like sixtieth and sixties
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 14: third in the country in rush defense. So you run
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 14: the ball, you play field position, you don't let Beck
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 14: screw it up. He just plays within himself and you
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 14: win with your defense. That to me is the equation
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 14: if Mario Christobal stays with that formula he'll be fine.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 14: I think despite the fun offense that Trididan Samblis has run,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 14: I just think Miami's too talented for the team, and
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 14: given the ability to put pressure on the quarterback, which
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 14: Georgia was unable to do at least consistently, I think
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 14: it makes for a Miami win.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: Rick new Isili with US our college football insider from
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 2: CBS Sports, of course, former UDUB head coach and current
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: Dallas Renegade's head coach. And apparently he's got a laundry
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: list of defensive endslas tight ends that are better prospects
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: than a fifty four year old from Seattle. Good for you,
• 1:34:57
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• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: As a coach, somebody that has had to manage a
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: roster and a coaching staff and everything else for many,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: many years. How difficult is this for ole Miss to
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: be doing this coaching dance with LSU getting ready for
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: a Final four game.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 14: Well, I think what we have to remember, and people
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 14: don't realize this, these coaching staffs have proliferated beyond belief.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 14: This was a Nick Saban additive to the world of
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 14: college football that a lot of coaches really complaining about,
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 14: but the world of analysts has gone through the roof,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 14: and the NCAA tried to hold on like they always do,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 14: but then they got the court of law and realized
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 14: they couldn't do anything about it. So it's basically broken away.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 14: So there are assistants to assistance to assistants on these
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 14: coaching staffs. And the reason that we've proliferated that way
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 14: is because we've had to create personnel departments because of
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 14: the transfer portal. So not only do you look at
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 14: every high school player that's coming out, you also look
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 14: at every you look at every roster across the country
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 14: in the FCS. That that wonderful game last night that
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 14: Montana State won their first national title since nineteen eighty
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 14: four against Illinois State, who was playing for their first
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 14: ever title. Both of those that film will be scrutinized
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 14: by every coach out there to see if I want
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 14: to take one of those players and bring them to
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 14: the power for so that you have to proliferate your program.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 14: So the fact that you've lost a few coaches, there
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 14: are other guys that know how to coach that position.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 14: So I don't think it's nearly as big a deal
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 14: as people are making it out to be. Especially if
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 14: Charlie Weiss Junior is staying and going to call, the
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 14: rhythm of the offense will be very similar.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: And especially since I have that Chamblis kit at quarterback.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: The kid's a magician.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 14: Oh in they fun, Indedy fun. It was a crime
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 14: that he wasn't in New York. It would have been
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 14: a great ability to talk about Division two in the
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 14: SCS and Division three. I mean, there's still pure college
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 14: football out there. I want the fans that miss that
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 14: to know that it's still available.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's get our Taco Time maybe picks
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: of the week.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Who are we going to end up in the championship?
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: Sounds like you're leaning heavily toward Indiana, and did I
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 2: pick up on Miami as well?
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 14: You did pick up on those. I'm going to take
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 14: Indiana as my Taco Time pick because I'm pulling for
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 14: Ole miss I really am. I want Trinidad Chambliss on
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 14: the stage because I think it's great for college football
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 14: to realize that just because you transfer doesn't mean you're
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 14: a bad guy. He's one of the great ones, and
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 14: I've got a fingers crossed that they get there, but
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 14: I think Miami will get him just on the prowess
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 14: of that defense. But the Taco Time pick of the
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 14: week are your Indiana Hoosiers.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, we know you are very very
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: busy these days with all of your jobs that you're juggling.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 14: Going back in the film room, I'm looking at all
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 14: these quarterbacks out there because I've got to turn in
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 14: a list of my five top quarterbacks that I want
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 14: to be renegades on Friday. So I'm scrutinizing, making all
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 14: these calls, all these coaches about their guys, and everybody
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 14: wants to talk about the portal, and it always starts,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 14: You're not going to believe.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: This if we knew the stories behind the scenes like
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: you do.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Oh man, he goes.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 14: Can't I go? I know you're busy, says No, I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 14: want to talk to you, coach. This will be the
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 14: only five minutes where I'm not talking about money.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: When do we find out which quarterback you lit you
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: got to have it in on Friday? When do you
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: find out I.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 14: Got to have it in on Friday? And then they
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 14: go through the list and see. If no one else
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 14: wanted those guys, then their mine. If there's a deal,
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 14: then they have to come up with some waiver wire
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 14: where somebody will have first choice and second choice. Then
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 14: it snakes down. But I'll find and some guys that
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 14: want to play and we're going to have some fun
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 14: in Dallas.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: Well that brings it full cycle then, because uh, if
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: that's a hurdle, I promise you nobody else is gonna
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: want one of us, So you could put us on
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: the list there.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: That will not get in your way.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 14: You think you think it's safe to say that I'll
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 14: get Chuck.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you put us on the list, we will
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: clear waivers.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll have us for sure.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 14: Hey, Talladega Knights had shaken bake.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 8: I've got Chuck.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: All right, Coach, Well, get back in the film room.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 8: All right, boys. I always enjoy it. Take care.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Rick new Isel segment brought to you every week by
• 1:39:39
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• 1:39:43
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• 1:39:45
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  Speaker 5: No, I told you I did it. That was the
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 5: last visit of the year.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, once she does it once a year.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well you could have made that a resolutions. It
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 6: just shows some respect. Maybe that would have been a
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 6: good one for you.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 5: A lot of work.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that interesting he bring that up. That
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: was out of my four hundred and ninety six years resolutions.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: That's number forty one. Show less respect this year? Oh
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: yeah to everyone, Well that one. I'll tell you what.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: You are hitting more of these than you're not. Ah,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: you know, I try to make some reasonable Yeah, that's
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: a reasonable one, attainable, you know what.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: Not everybody needs respect, including the old judge.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: I think it's awesome.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, the old judge is here, he's in
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: his courtroom, he is ready to rule.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: Here's how this works.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: I've got a few different topics that Ashley and I
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: are going to discuss, not necessarily debate, but just discuss.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: And then once the old judge has heard enough yapping
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: in his courtroom, he slams the.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: Gavel gavel, gavel, cavel.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: He weighs in, and whatever the judge says.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 6: It goes Yeah, even more in twenty twenty six. It
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: just came down from on high.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: You have even more authority here.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 6: Actually before it was just you guys just will shut
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 6: up and then whatever I say goes. Now, if you
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: don't shush your mouths and agree, then you can be
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 6: sent to prison.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Oh oh wow yeah man, oh yeah.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: The states have risen a little bit, so I would say,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 6: abide by the law.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I got a cross off two seventy three news. You're
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: as you're a New Year's resolution. Don't go to prison. No,
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: I try to script old judge of this power.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds that's backfired on I support it, blew.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Up in my face. I wouldn't do it if I was.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: You's got more power than ever. It sounds like ye,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: all right, here we go. Number one, the Seahawks are
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: going to have to beat both the Rams and forty
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: nine ers again to reach the Super Bowl.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think they're going to have
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: to beat one of them. I don't think that they're
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: going to have to beat both. I do think the
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 4: Rams will probably win this weekend, and I do think
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 4: the forty nine ers will not.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: I am with you on that. I think the forty
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: nine ers are out immediately. I even think Green Bay
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: could get Chicago. I think you won't have to face
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: the Rams until the Conference championship. But I still do
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: think you will have to go through the Rams.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, agreed, gabble gabble gal Oh, I broke some part
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 6: of my gavel paddle the strong.
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah believe I noticed those biceps were getting there.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: Very very fit. I am. I I'm with you. I
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 6: don't think you have to face both. I think the Niners, uh,
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: they're just they're going to run into some trouble stopping people.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: And I don't know for sure if that offense, I mean,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: besides Christian McCaffrey, they don't have a ton of weapons,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 6: a hobbled kittle. I don't know if that's going to
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: be enough to get through these playoffs.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm with you. I think that uh I's got
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: to win that first one.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 6: But I have a feeling that the next best team,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 6: if if there's somebody that's close, is the Rams.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: I think you will be facing them in the Conference championship.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Is there any doubt that we're gonna have to face
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: the Rams? Though it should be?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, games against them went down, I mean a two
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 6: point loss with the four turnovers, you're thinking very easily
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 6: could have won that one. The last one that was
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 6: even more important, essentially felt like it anyways, you come
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 6: back and win that one in overtime, it's like it
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: feels like it's unsettled. It feels you know, you're one
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: one figure out who's the best and if it's the
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: chance to go to the super Bowl.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to predict anything that's gonna happen
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: in the postseason, but I feel like that is unavoidable.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 5: I would like it to be avoidable, though, I not
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 5: to not face the Rams, and not.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Just from the Rams perspective.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: I think the Seahawks are unavoidable, Yeah, to advance as
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 2: far as whenever they would meet the Los Angeles Rams.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: All right, next one.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: If I could only watch one game this weekend in
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 2: the NFL playoffs, I mean, it's got to be forty
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: nine Ers Eagles.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 5: Ooh, I don't think so. I don't think that would
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 5: be my most intrigued game.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 4: I am really intrigued actually by Carolina and the Rams again,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 4: really yes, because the I'd found a way to beat
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: them last time.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 5: I wonder if they're going to go with that similar
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: game plan.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: I'm planning to get drunk during that game well and
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: then just ride it the evening.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: There was no part I didn't. Sorry, I hold on,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: let me check micro. Did I say it's gonna be sober?
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 5: Well, I was doing it.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 4: And then also that Bill's game, the Bill's Jaguars, that's
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: gonna be a great one.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: I think the Bills Jaguars is the best game of
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: the weekend. I would put Bears Packers second. I don't
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: even put the forty and then I probably put forty
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: nine Ers Eagles.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's not it's not high on my line.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 6: Gavel Gavel, Gavel, Gavel, Bill's Jags, I think is the
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: best game of the weekend. I'm also highly intrigued to
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 6: see I mean, the Patriots just to seem to me,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think they ended up second in offense
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 6: as far as scoring behind the Rams, overtook the Seahawks
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 6: there in the final week. It's weird to think of
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: them as that, and yet they're legit. I mean, fourteen
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: to three. You don't get there by accident. The Chargers
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 6: rested some guys, and Herbert has been a guy that
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: thrown four interceptions in a playoff game before.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: He's not risen to the moment.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: Yet we don't hear the same rumblings about him as
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: you do about Sam Darnold for whatever reason. I'll be
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 6: interested to see how that matchup goes down. I'm obviously
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 6: a little bit more interested in how the AF seed
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 6: pans out, and so those two games are kind of
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 6: the big ones for me.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 5: I I.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: But there all of them are intriguing. They all have
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: their crazy storylines. Can the forty nine ers get healthy
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 6: enough there they might get some guys back. If they don't,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: seems like it's uphill sledding for them, And yet the
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 6: Eagles have found a way to lose to far worse
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 6: teams than the forty nine ers during this season so far.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: I'm most excited to watch the Seahawks game this weekend.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 5: Oh wait, oh wait they play?
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: Hold on, wait they play this week?
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: Oh that's right, the number one seed.
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: Oh here, are you excited to watch the Broncos this weekend?
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: Well wait, no, they don't play either.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this show only supports not one seeds. Yeah, it's
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 2: just gonna be the way it's gonna be this year. Yeah,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be a one seed at every thing, or I'm
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: not going to do it. Yeah, somebody other text line.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: When we brought that up earlier yesterday, they were like, oh,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: so you're cheering for Indiana. Then I'm like, oh, wait.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: In Piro.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 3: No yeah, yo too.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: No, no, all right, next one?
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: Should the Cardinals and Dolphins just trade Kyler for Tua?
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: Oh? I think?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that either one should still
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 4: be starting in the NFL.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: Honestly, it stop making us watch. That's what I would ask.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say maybe, I would say yes if
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: I have to be definitive, and I'll tell you what,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: because I mean, I heard some argument this morning about
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: what a great position the Dolphins are in organizationally, and
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: I'm like, are you out of your mind?
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 3: No, one's in a worse position because.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: If to get rid of Tua you got to pull
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: the Russell Wilson thing where you've got to basically eat
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: fifty million.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: Dollars for the next couple of years.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: It's you don't have a high draft pick, you don't
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: have a great owner, you don't have a GM in
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: place right now. I think they have an absolute mess there.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure you're going to find anything better than
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 2: Tua if you're trying to still win next year now,
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: And yet I understand why you'd want to get rid
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 2: of him, So why not trade the two horrible situations
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: that you have right now?
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: The money's about even fresh. Yeah, cavel gavel gavel I one.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: I don't want to trade a headache for a headache, Like, hey,
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: you have me that medicine that just gives you a
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: different headache ache? Yeah, Like I have a headache in
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 6: the front, Do you have one that gives me one
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: in the back, because you're still a pretty small headache.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Tyler's just a little bit smaller.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know why necessarily I Tua has the concussion
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 6: issue in the staying healthy issue. I've seen plenty of
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 6: times though out of Tua when you're like, I can
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 6: see why that guy was drafted where he was the
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 6: talent that he can ring to the table.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: Now does he really work hard?
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 6: All the questions about that that's not good and the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 6: fact that you would have to pay for his salary
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 6: for him to go play somewhere else, In large part,
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: that doesn't seem great. But on the flip side of it,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: you're not getting a whole lot different situation with Kyler.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: Murray maybe isn't fully invested in the craft and getting
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: better at it, but he at times shows why he
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: was drafted where he was drafted, that he's capable. I
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: would believe more in Tua, and I think switching one
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 6: headache for a different headache, all you're doing is messing
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: with the fact that at least they know something about
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: each other. At least you know something about your guy.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: Whether or not it's all bad or more bad than good,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 6: I don't know.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: All due respect, mister cornholes. There they're gone. They're neither
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: one are staying where they are. Tua is gone, Kyler
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: is gone. It's just do you want to eat fifty
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: million dollars run Quinn viewers out there and see if
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: you can turn you know, treasure trash into t treasure
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: and get the right head coach like Denver did, get
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: the right system going again. Right now, they don't have
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: any of those pieces in place, so it's not that either.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: That's a great situation for either team. But you could
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: trade for another quarterback that's actually had some success in
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: the National Football League and try to give them a
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: new environment a new playground and see if it works here,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: or you eat fifty million dollars for the next two
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: seasons and try to see if you can turn quinn
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: Ewers into something during a rebuild.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: Those are your two choices. They're not nobody's keeping either
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: of those dudes.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 5: No, but they're in a great spot.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're in a great spots.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 5: You really jealous of that?
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad. I'm I'm not a fan of either team.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you that, all right, final one with Naylor,
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  Speaker 2: Ferrer and ref Snyder done, the Mariners need just one
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  Speaker 2: more significant move for a bet and I will consider
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  Speaker 2: this offseason complete.
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  Speaker 4: I think so, just going off the way that the
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  Speaker 4: Mariner's philosophy is that they're not trying to do too
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  Speaker 4: much in the off season. They're really trying to hold
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  Speaker 4: steady till that trade deadline or you know, have success
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  Speaker 4: inuntil that trade deadline. So yes, I would say, one
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  Speaker 4: more move, bring in a bat, and then you're now
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  Speaker 4: you've got your team, You've got everything so that you
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  Speaker 4: can kind of figure out what.
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  Speaker 5: You need once you get to the trade deadline. Because
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  Speaker 5: that seems to be their sweet spot.
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  Speaker 2: Man, they star have led a couple of Japanese hitters
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  Speaker 2: that I was interested in and go for a lot
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  Speaker 2: less and I thought they were going to be worth
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  Speaker 2: I think they've got a really sneaky, sexy move up
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  Speaker 2: their sleeve for a bat and I think that I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to need that to feel like the offseason is complete.
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  Speaker 2: But if it does happen, yeah, I'm good with that.
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  Speaker 2: I think you've dressed your bullpen. I think that you
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  Speaker 2: got yourself a decent the left handed platoon outfielder that
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  Speaker 2: can be used. Naylor obviously was the biggest move of
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  Speaker 2: the offseason. If you can just either keep Gino or
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  Speaker 2: find somebody back than Gino out there, I'll consider it completely.
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  Speaker 1: Gavel, Gavel, Gavel, I am.
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  Speaker 6: I'm fine if there's one more substantial move, if it
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  Speaker 6: was Gino bringing him back, and you're like, all right,
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna be our DH, and then we can kind
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  Speaker 6: of see what Ben Williamson does over there at third.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't want them to go into the season.
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  Speaker 6: And this isn't doesn't mean I don't believe that both
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  Speaker 6: of them could rise to the occasion. I don't want
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  Speaker 6: Cole at second and Ben at third. And you're relying
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  Speaker 6: on both of them to figure it out. When you're
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  Speaker 6: in the middle of a championship window like the Mariner's team,
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  Speaker 6: I think is I want to have an insurance policy somewhere,
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  Speaker 6: so like a third basement like Gino that could play
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  Speaker 6: third if Ben Williamson, you know, scuffles offensively or somebody,
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  Speaker 6: if it was a second baseman that you're like, okay,
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  Speaker 6: that way, if Cole Young doesn't figure it out and
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  Speaker 6: doesn't continue to kind of blossom after his first cup
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  Speaker 6: of coffee in the big leagues, you have a backup
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  Speaker 6: plan there. I don't want to go with both youngsters
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  Speaker 6: expecting both of them. Now you do have of what's
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  Speaker 6: his name, the youngster that might be vying for that
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  Speaker 6: third base second base spot, Colt Emerson cold Emerson. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: you might be having him thrown into the mix as well.
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  Speaker 6: But that now you have three guys and you're hoping
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  Speaker 6: that two of them take off. I want to have
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  Speaker 6: a little bit more of a proven guy mixed into
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  Speaker 6: the system.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So, I'm sure at this point you've reached out to
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  Speaker 6: everybody you're interested in. Now they're waiting for the best deals.
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  Speaker 6: They're doing their negotiating waiting for the best deals. You're
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  Speaker 6: gonna wait for one of them, two of them to
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  Speaker 6: basically sign somewhere else. The next thing, you know, there's
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  Speaker 6: a all right, well, you didn't go where the highest
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  Speaker 6: bidder was, so now are you gonna take the next
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  Speaker 6: highest bidder or are you gonna jump and just go
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  Speaker 6: where you want to go? Hopefully that's Seattle Mariners for
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  Speaker 6: some of these guys.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And time as has to be viewed differently. In
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  Speaker 2: a baseball off season, you might be thinking we're running
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  Speaker 2: out of time. We're not even close to running out
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  Speaker 2: of time. Yeah, because you know this is the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: The further you get away from NFL free agency, usually
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  Speaker 2: the pool is just like diminished. But in Major league
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  Speaker 2: there is so much left out there. I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: were a few moves right at the beginning of the
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  Speaker 2: off season.
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  Speaker 1: There's really been.
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  Speaker 2: Virtually nothing in the last month or so, so there
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  Speaker 2: is a lot left there to grab. So there's you're
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  Speaker 2: not running out of time, You're not running out of
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  Speaker 2: fish in the pond. There's still plenty of plenty of
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  Speaker 2: them out there.
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  Speaker 1: You just got to find the right bait, all.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, close out the show next with one Last
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