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Hour 3: Future of fraternities · Curtis Sliwa & Larry Mendte In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: Well, this is one of those stories you hear about
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  Speaker 1: and you think, well, that can't be true. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of this Cornell 7 controversy and the
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  Speaker 1: alleged gang rape, another alleged gang rape, this time at
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  Speaker 1: Chicago University or the University of Chicago, I should say,
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  Speaker 1: again at another frat. A woman says she was assaulted
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  Speaker 1: in the early hours this past Sunday. At the Alpha
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  Speaker 1: Epsilon Phi fraternity, she apparently went there with several friends.
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  Speaker 1: So it happened Saturday going into Sunday. It was a
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  Speaker 1: frat party, and she and her friends, they went down
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  Speaker 1: to the basement. There was apparently two levels of dance floors.
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  Speaker 1: So except for the person that's saying that she was raped,
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  Speaker 1: all the other friends have gone public. And they have
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  Speaker 1: been talking about what happened. So there's the three of them.
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  Speaker 1: They went down in the basement. They all started dancing together.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, they lost track of
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  Speaker 1: their friend. They don't know where she went. So they
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  Speaker 1: searched the house. They were looking everywhere. And eventually, they
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  Speaker 1: found on the top floor a small group of men
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  Speaker 1: cheering outside a locked bathroom in the basement. And they
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  Speaker 1: were saying things, according to her friend, saying things like,
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  Speaker 1: when is it my turn? I want to get in there.
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  Speaker 1: So her friends jimmied the lock on the door and
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  Speaker 1: forced their way in, and they found her friend sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the floor, slumped against the wall, with her clothes
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  Speaker 1: and her undergarments pulled down. The man whom her friend
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  Speaker 1: had been kissing had his hands on her wrist at
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  Speaker 1: the time. So her friend began saying, make it stop.
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  Speaker 1: Get me out of here. That's the friend that was
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  Speaker 1: assaulted saying that. So the two that she came in
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  Speaker 1: with began screaming and the man left immediately as soon
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  Speaker 1: as he started screaming. She and her friends then carried
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  Speaker 1: the woman out of the bathroom and outside the fraternity house.
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  Speaker 1: They chased one of the men, the three of them.
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  Speaker 1: The scene was captured immediately. On video, you can go
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  Speaker 1: see it on social media. In the clip, Miss Lara
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  Speaker 1: yells at the man, Miss Lara is the friend, accusing
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  Speaker 1: him of assaulting her friend. And the man yelled back,
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to, she wanted to. And the friend then
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  Speaker 1: swatted the man with her hands as he continued to
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  Speaker 1: run away. And they immediately went to the police. And
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  Speaker 1: it is under investigation right now. Still no charges. But
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  Speaker 1: this is a sickening story if it all plays out
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  Speaker 1: the way it's being described by her friends. But Curtis,
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  Speaker 1: who in their right minds, and I guess that's the
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  Speaker 1: important part of that statement, in their right minds, because
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  Speaker 1: they were probably all drugged up and drunk. With this
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  Speaker 1: playing out, Cornell University is now an international story. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just a local story. This is an international story.
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  Speaker 1: With this playing out and all these women now being
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  Speaker 1: emboldened and coming forward and talking about incidents they've had
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  Speaker 1: in their past, what idiots at a frat at the
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  Speaker 1: University of Chicago would engage in this type of behavior?
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  Speaker 1: They know, first of all, that it's a crime. They know,
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  Speaker 1: secondly of all, that they'll probably get thrown out of
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  Speaker 1: the university. But third, with everything that is going on
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  Speaker 1: around the world, they know now they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: international villains.
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  Speaker 2: Let's face it, that's a very good university.
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  Speaker 3: When we talked about the mail that was stolen, remember,
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  Speaker 3: the mother and father was sending a nice card wishing
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  Speaker 3: that their son have a good first year. He had
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  Speaker 3: just traveled out to the University of Chicago. It's really
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  Speaker 3: a stellar place that a lot of people want to
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  Speaker 3: go to. So by themselves, individually, autonomously. Would these men,
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  Speaker 3: young men, have done this?
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  Speaker 2: Probably not.
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  Speaker 3: But in a group setting, Larry, although I've never experienced
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  Speaker 3: fraternity life, I never even got to college, only one
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  Speaker 3: time I spoke at Drake University in Des Moines, and
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  Speaker 3: they welcomed me to the frat that sponsored it afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: But there was an adult supervisor, so to speak, that
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  Speaker 3: was there. They were drinking, but nothing that got out
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  Speaker 3: of hand. So I never really experienced it. But I
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  Speaker 3: have heard all the horror stories. of what goes on
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  Speaker 3: in these frat houses, more so than the sorority houses,
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  Speaker 3: and that a guy like Bill Maher, known as Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Party Animal, who had gone to Cornell, I didn't know that,
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  Speaker 3: has called for the ending of all Greek life.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think that might happen across the country. Here's
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  Speaker 1: the thing, though. You said you'd never been to one.
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  Speaker 1: I've been to several frat parties when I was growing up, several,
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  Speaker 1: at a lot of universities, including the University of Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 1: so that was an Ivy League school. They had the
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  Speaker 1: best of all the frat parties. And I had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of friends that went there. I've never heard anything
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  Speaker 1: like this. So they keep saying this is prevalent at
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  Speaker 1: these frat parties. I've been probably to a dozen, and
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything that comes close to this.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if.
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  Speaker 1: This is new. Maybe it's in the last decade. But
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  Speaker 1: now the fact that there are two that happened, the
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  Speaker 1: University of Chicago and Cornell University of all places, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. They are two.
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  Speaker 2: These are elite schools.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Outstanding sources of education. But, man, I'm stunned. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know what to say. I am stunned by
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  Speaker 1: this behavior.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think now because it is the topic of
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  Speaker 3: conversations throughout the nation, anything that transpires. Look, there's a
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  Speaker 3: case going on, University of Oregon. Case going on, I
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  Speaker 3: believe it's University of Arizona, not Arizona State University. anything
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  Speaker 3: that happens now on any campus or off campus, especially
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  Speaker 3: involving fraternities more so than any other group, is going
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  Speaker 3: to get additional attention, and it should. And like you said,
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  Speaker 3: how in the midst of all of this attention to
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  Speaker 3: what transpired, the Cornell 7, the case that is just
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  Speaker 3: every day you can't escape it, would you even think
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  Speaker 3: of engaging in this kind of activity? And you can't
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  Speaker 3: blame it on, well, we did drugs, we did alcohol,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, this is what happens when a
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  Speaker 3: lot of guys get together.
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  Speaker 1: This one is worse than Cornell because she started out
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  Speaker 1: wanting to have a threesome with the two guys and
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  Speaker 1: then it got out of hand. So there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of unknown in that story. If this, as the eyewitnesses say,
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  Speaker 1: it played out, which we don't know yet, we can't
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  Speaker 1: prejudge everything in this, but if this played out the
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  Speaker 1: way it's being described, this is horrid. These guys not
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  Speaker 1: only should be thrown out of the university, they should
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  Speaker 1: be thrown in jail.
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  Speaker 2: And think of it.
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  Speaker 3: Most parents who are sending their kids to the University
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  Speaker 3: of Chicago might try to change their mind by saying,
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  Speaker 3: you know, off campus is very dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: Correct. Chicago, crime capital of America.
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  Speaker 3: Who's thinking I'm sending my kids to this prestigious university,
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  Speaker 3: University of Chicago, and they're in danger on campus from
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  Speaker 3: on-campus students. We're not talking about outsiders who come in
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  Speaker 3: off and then do crazy things on campus, but from
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  Speaker 3: the students themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Now, just a quick update, if I can, Larry, on
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  Speaker 2: the Cornell situation.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's doing a deep dive on all past cases of
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  Speaker 3: assault done by male students against female students, sexual assaults. Apparently,
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  Speaker 3: Cornell has only expelled two of 16 students found responsible
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  Speaker 3: for a series of recent attacks. sexual assaults.
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  Speaker 2: That ain't good.
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  Speaker 3: And the Cornell Press, who gave an endless interview to
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  Speaker 3: the New York Times front page to try to save
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  Speaker 3: his job, apparently was grilled by the Faculty Senate over
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  Speaker 3: the handling of this case and other previous cases, and
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  Speaker 3: he's facing a vote of no confidence. Now, if you
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  Speaker 3: get a vote of no confidence from the Faculty Senate,
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  Speaker 3: You're going to dig in your heels and say, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going? You know, you would think you would see
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  Speaker 3: the handwriting on the wall, resign, and get out of
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  Speaker 3: there now and allow somebody else to come in and
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  Speaker 3: clean up the mess.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the students have done the same thing. So, no,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just a matter of time because he
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  Speaker 1: has done this the worst way possible. Every time there
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  Speaker 1: is a new incident or every time there is new
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  Speaker 1: information about the incident that happened, He is reactive instead
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  Speaker 1: of proactive. Constantly, he's doing things after the fact. And
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  Speaker 1: that's not good enough. That's certainly not good enough. And
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  Speaker 1: by the way, somebody's got to go. And it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be the president. I mean, he's the one that
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  Speaker 1: has to go. Again, I am worried about this story.
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  Speaker 1: I want to watch it play out. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: we know there's a problem. It really doesn't matter. We
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  Speaker 1: know that there's drugs. We know that there's group sex.
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  Speaker 1: We know that there's alcohol. And so there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things we know for a fact. And the things
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  Speaker 1: that we know for a fact are too much.
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  Speaker 3: So I think, Larry, now I understand why the quiet storm, Chris,
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  Speaker 3: on loan to us from the Mark Simone show, he's
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  Speaker 3: here today because Natalie is away. She'll be back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: would always go home on the weekends from Seton Hall
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  Speaker 3: with his, what is his, Playboy?
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  Speaker 2: What would you call that?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 2: Game Boy. My Xbox? Yeah, your Xbox.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you wouldn't hang around on the campus all weekend
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  Speaker 3: long at Seton Hall. for all the frat and sorority parties.
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  Speaker 6: No, I was not doing that. I was going home
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  Speaker 6: and playing video games. All right, but was that a reason? No,
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't necessarily afraid of that. I wasn't a big
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  Speaker 6: partier or drinker. I didn't start drinking alcohol until I
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  Speaker 6: was 22.
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  Speaker 4: 22?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of a square.
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  Speaker 1: You're a real Mama Luke. I got so blasted one
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  Speaker 1: time when I was like 16, I didn't drink for
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  Speaker 1: eight years after that. Yeah, that's fair. I thought I
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  Speaker 1: was going to die.
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  Speaker 3: And you know when you really know it because you
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  Speaker 3: think you can handle it. Same thing for me about
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  Speaker 3: the same age. You start mixing drinks, and you are
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  Speaker 3: so sick for days afterwards. You understand what the adults
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  Speaker 3: told you, the male adults. Never mix your drinks.
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to the next story, I just was
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  Speaker 1: checking some of the Chicago papers. They're expecting charges today
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  Speaker 1: in that gang rape. The police department's getting a lot
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  Speaker 1: of heat, a lot of heat right now. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure we'll be talking about that tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Up next.
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  Speaker 3: I need just a few moments of your time, Larry, Chris,
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  Speaker 3: and audience, to do a commemoration, the passing of one
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  Speaker 3: of the greatest participants in the International Federation of Competitive
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  Speaker 3: Eating that ever existed in the world. All kinds of contests.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm calling for Nathan's Famous to put their flags
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  Speaker 3: at hand. Larry and the Silent Storm, Chris, on loan
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  Speaker 3: to us. Natalie away today. She'll be back tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Chris is always with us. Do you know that? He
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  Speaker 1: does stuff for the show. He's just not in this.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in another little side room by myself.
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  Speaker 2: We'd never know because we never hear you shake up. True, fair.
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  Speaker 3: But I got to tell you, I'm taking just a
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  Speaker 3: few moments to do a commemoration. As you know, the sport,
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  Speaker 3: and it is a sport now, the International Federation of
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  Speaker 3: Competitive Eating with the Nathan's Famous Contest on July 4th,
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  Speaker 3: the number one show on ESPN, 12 noon. The whole
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  Speaker 3: world watches. But a lot of people don't realize ESPN.
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  Speaker 3: Every week, there's a competitive eating contest somewhere in the
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  Speaker 3: world where there is prize money.
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  Speaker 2: If you're good, they'll fly you in, put you up.
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  Speaker 2: You can make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, the champion of all champions now is the Jack Armstrong,
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  Speaker 3: who was found many, many years ago to take out Kobayashi,
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  Speaker 3: the Japanese champion. And that is Joey Chestnut. And he
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  Speaker 3: competes in a lot of contests and wins a lot.
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  Speaker 3: But the guy who won most of those other contests
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  Speaker 3: was Timothy Janis. What a story. Timothy Janis is born
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  Speaker 3: in Farmington, Connecticut. He does well in school. He comes
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  Speaker 3: to Wall Street. He's a traitor. He's doing great. They
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  Speaker 3: have a St. Patrick's celebration at his firm. And he
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  Speaker 3: finds out that down the block there's a corned beef
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  Speaker 3: and cabbage eating contest.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they do these kind of things, drink celebrations.
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  Speaker 2: He competes. He wins.
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  Speaker 3: He's now got the bug. He leaves the Wall Street
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  Speaker 3: firm that he was making a lot of money in.
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  Speaker 3: and decides to go out on the road and compete
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  Speaker 3: in the International Federation of Competitive Eating. He's named the
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  Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. He set all-time records. Four pounds
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  Speaker 3: of tiramisu. You know what that's like? That's all cream.
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  Speaker 3: That's impossible to take down.
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  Speaker 1: It's delicious.
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  Speaker 3: But in six minutes, 11 pounds of ramen in eight minutes,
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  Speaker 3: 71 tamales in eight minutes. And what he did was
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  Speaker 3: he would watch tapes of his competitors. He had notebooks
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  Speaker 3: filled with analytics and data. He had eating strategies. And unfortunately, yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: passed away from lung cancer at the age of 49.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's incumbent on Nathan's famous, the most... a
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  Speaker 3: famous address in all of Coney Island, and make sure
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  Speaker 3: the flags are at half staff in his honor, Timothy Janus,
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  Speaker 3: at least for a week. This guy is everything you
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  Speaker 3: wanted to know about a competitor.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Let's get to some talkbacks. Now I want
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  Speaker 1: some tiramisu.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a woman.
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  Speaker 7: I work out. I swim. I'm in great shape. And, yes,
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  Speaker 7: they do dress like whores. These young girls, I said, oh,
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  Speaker 7: my God, do the parents know? And what they do
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  Speaker 7: is they come in sweats, they come in loose tops,
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  Speaker 7: and they take them off in the locker room.
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  Speaker 2: He's right.
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  Speaker 7: Listen, you know what? I don't care what anybody else does.
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  Speaker 7: It doesn't offend me. But, my friends, we've all commented.
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  Speaker 1: He's talking about Shane Gillis, who was on SNL and
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  Speaker 1: got blowback for saying exactly what she just said. But
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  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of women that agree.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly how they dress. You're still not talking about it, huh?
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  Speaker 3: No. I'm making no comment since Shane Gillis played me
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  Speaker 3: in the debate last year on Saturday Night Live. That's
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  Speaker 3: all I know about Shane Gillis. He knows how to
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  Speaker 3: wear a red beret.
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  Speaker 1: The owners of the shop took the wrong approach. They
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  Speaker 1: should have apologized, and they should have sent her the
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  Speaker 1: bird as a gift.
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  Speaker 2: It would have blown over right away.
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  Speaker 4: But no, they had to fight it, and I believe
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  Speaker 4: they lied about the situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know who's telling the truth,
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  Speaker 1: but I do think this is going to end with
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson going back to the store.
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  Speaker 3: Excuse me, this is like David taking on Goliath, right?
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  Speaker 3: David is the shop owner taking on the Goliath who's
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  Speaker 3: Kelly Clarkson.
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  Speaker 2: I want David to prevail.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's punching down. I will bet you, I will bet.
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  Speaker 1: I promise you that there's a publicist right now saying
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  Speaker 1: you just got to go back to that shop.
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  Speaker 9: Natalie Migliore, you are the hero of the moment. I
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  Speaker 9: did hear all seven references, and that was awesome. But
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  Speaker 9: going back to the remark about she's the nicest woman
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  Speaker 9: in showbiz, they used to say that about Rosie O'Donnell, too.
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  Speaker 9: So just take that into account. She's ending her show.
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  Speaker 9: Her life is kind of a mess right now. So
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  Speaker 9: this was not necessary at all, and I'm siding with
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  Speaker 9: the shop owner.
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  Speaker 3: She's right about Rosie O'Donnell. Remember she had that mid-morning
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  Speaker 3: program on ABC? She ate Twinkies. She had nice jokes.
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  Speaker 3: She's a Long Island girl.
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  Speaker 2: We never knew about her politics and her insanity.
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  Speaker 1: I told you the story about the one time I
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  Speaker 1: was out in L.A. to cover the Super Bowl, and
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  Speaker 1: I went to the comedy club, and she was there.
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  Speaker 1: I interviewed her, and then she wanted to know if
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to stay at her house on the beach.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you were safe.
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  Speaker 1: I was saying.
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  Speaker 2: Now we know that about.
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  Speaker 1: I said to everybody, well, all the comics knew. And
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  Speaker 1: I said to some of my comic friends, I said,
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  Speaker 1: Rosie O'Donnell, I think she just hit on me. And
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  Speaker 1: they went, nope, no, she didn't. No, she didn't. Just
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  Speaker 1: trust me.
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  Speaker 2: Up next. You may have remembered.
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  Speaker 1: We have to get the news.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't wait to get
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  Speaker 2: to this story.
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  Speaker 1: How can you forget now the woman we could never forget,
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  Speaker 1: Daria Albinger, who is waiting patiently with the news.
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  Speaker 10: Always waiting patiently. And if I can hear Journey again,
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  Speaker 10: I will wait a few more minutes. Sunny and much
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  Speaker 10: cooler today with a high of 62 degrees. Showers likely
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  Speaker 10: late tonight and then we're going to see a turn
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  Speaker 10: toward fall after that. Former Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro is
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  Speaker 10: expected to be arraigned today in federal court here in
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  Speaker 10: New York on additional charges.
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  Speaker 11: A new indictment shows that prosecutors are now charging Maduro
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  Speaker 11: and his wife with conspiring to torture political opponents and Americans.
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  Speaker 11: This is in addition to drug trafficking charges they already face.
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  Speaker 11: The two have been locked up since their capture by
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  Speaker 11: the U.S. military in their home back in January. They
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  Speaker 11: have pleaded not guilty to accusations they transported thousands of
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  Speaker 11: tons of cocaine to the U.S. Maduro was then as
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  Speaker 11: well as president from 2013 until his capture. I'm Scott Pringle,
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  Speaker 10: President Trump is once again telling Republican voters to pretend
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  Speaker 10: OpenAI, the company behind ChatGPT, is being sued by eight
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  Speaker 12: The legal action comes amid growing concerns from families. Last year,
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations to Esther Del Carpio from Little Falls, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 3: I was so anxious to get to this story about
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  Speaker 3: Congresswoman Nancy Mace, rising star in the MAGA movement a
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  Speaker 3: few years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Then she took to the floor of Congress, was on C-SPAN.
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  Speaker 3: One hour, went off on her fiance, two businessmen, accused
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  Speaker 3: them of rape, of videotaping it. Everybody thought she was
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  Speaker 3: out of her mind. You know, a woman scorned has no,
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  Speaker 3: I forget the term that they use there, Larry. But
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  Speaker 3: it turns out she was right. These three guys were
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  Speaker 3: arrested yesterday. I never thought that this case would ever
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  Speaker 3: see the light of day. We'll give you those details
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  Speaker 3: up next. You know, Larry, a few years ago, Nancy Mace,
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  Speaker 3: Republican MAGA at the time, Congresswoman Charleston, South Carolina, was
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  Speaker 3: on the rise. She couldn't run for Senate in South
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  Speaker 3: Carolina because of Lindsey Graham alive at that time and
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  Speaker 3: Tim Scott. But she wanted to be the governor and
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  Speaker 3: everybody was saying, oh, she definitely can be the next governor.
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  Speaker 3: And then she took to the floor. Every congressman, congresswoman
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  Speaker 3: has an opportunity to take to the floor for one hour.
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  Speaker 3: It's covered on C-SPAN, and they can talk about anything
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  Speaker 3: under the sun. I had a chance to see it
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  Speaker 3: on a replay. Larry, at the time, I thought it
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  Speaker 3: was the cringiest, most unhinged thing I had ever heard
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  Speaker 3: in my life. She was really, I mean, angry, uh,
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  Speaker 3: She was screaming at her former fiance and his two
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  Speaker 3: business partners. She ended up saying, you've booked yourself a
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  Speaker 3: one-way ticket to hell. She's holding up a sign with
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  Speaker 3: their pictures on it, their names. You know, this is
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  Speaker 3: what sometimes crazy people do. You know, these kind of rants.
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  Speaker 3: But this was on the floor of the house. And
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  Speaker 3: a lot of people at that point said, wow, it's over.
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  Speaker 2: It's over. You can't do that.
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  Speaker 3: As a congressperson, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere,
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  Speaker 3: and if you can, if you can play maybe some
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  Speaker 3: of what she was saying on that day on the
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  Speaker 3: floor of the House of Representatives.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she talks about two separate incidents, and let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about who these people are. It is Patrick Bryant, who
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  Speaker 1: was her fiancé at the time, along with two other men,
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  Speaker 1: John Douglas Osborne and Eric Bernard Bowman. And you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to keep those names on the top of your head
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  Speaker 1: because we're going to be talking about them again in
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  Speaker 1: a second. But she went through some computer drives that
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  Speaker 1: she found. She found these computer drives and she put
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  Speaker 1: them in her computer and she looked and she was
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  Speaker 1: stunned at what she saw. First, she saw some pictures
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  Speaker 1: of women that were being taken when they weren't aware
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  Speaker 1: they were being taken.
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  Speaker 10: The women raped.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, that's not the right one.
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  Speaker 8: I found more photos, this time of female employees. I
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  Speaker 8: found photos of wives of male employees. Photos of girlfriends
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  Speaker 8: and women who very clearly didn't know their private parts
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  Speaker 8: were being filmed and photographed.
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  Speaker 1: So they found dozens of photos, dozens and dozens and
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  Speaker 1: dozens of photos that were being photographed up the skirt
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  Speaker 1: or when they were in the men's room or when
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  Speaker 1: they were in the women's room and it was underneath
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  Speaker 1: the toilet. So these are bizarre, weird pictures. But then, rape.
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  Speaker 8: The women raped.
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  Speaker 11: On those tapes that I saw.
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  Speaker 8: The women raped that I spoke to over the course
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  Speaker 8: of the last year. The stories of these women were
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  Speaker 8: all too familiar. Now I know why. My memories of
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  Speaker 8: that night are just flashes in and out of the dark,
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  Speaker 8: flashes in and out of the night. I was raped
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  Speaker 8: that night.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was when she was 16. She said the
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  Speaker 1: photos that she saw of a woman being raped, who
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  Speaker 1: had obviously been drugged, brought it back to her, what
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  Speaker 1: happened to her when she was 16. Because she says,
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  Speaker 1: She was loaded with alcohol and then drugs and then
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  Speaker 1: came to conscience every once in a while to see
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  Speaker 1: that she was being raped by several people over and
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  Speaker 1: over again. So Cornell University, University of Chicago, Nancy Mace,
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  Speaker 1: these fiancés, and they've now been arrested, Curtis.
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  Speaker 3: Well, at that time, I said, hell hath no fury
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  Speaker 3: like a woman's corne. because it was directed at her
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  Speaker 3: fiancé and his two business associates. But as you said,
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't just her. It was other things she saw,
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  Speaker 3: video photos in the file involving other women. She said
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  Speaker 3: some underage. One of those victims compared her experiences to
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  Speaker 3: that of Jane Doe.
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  Speaker 2: They had all the goods.
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  Speaker 3: They did a complete investigation, South Carolina police authorities, and
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  Speaker 3: you are correct. They arrested her former fiancé and the
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  Speaker 3: two business partners.
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  Speaker 2: This is just the tip of the iceberg. To be
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  Speaker 2: honest with you, Larry, most people in.
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  Speaker 3: The world of politics thought she was unhinged, she was crazy,
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  Speaker 3: and that, oh my God, what has happened?
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  Speaker 1: She's just destroyed her career. It turned out she was correct.
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  Speaker 1: She was correct. And I'll tell you what, if she
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  Speaker 1: was a Democrat, they would have believed her. If she's
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: a Republican, she's crazy. And now they hope they look
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  Speaker 1: like fools. She's getting out. She thinks that politics is
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  Speaker 1: disgusting now. And I don't blame her. Politics is disgusting.
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  Speaker 1: And they went after someone who was a rape victim
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  Speaker 1: and made fun of her. And now she said she's
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  Speaker 1: not running for political office again. After this term is done,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: she's retiring and she's going to go into the private
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: sector and good for her because she was slimed. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: now we find out, of course, she was just telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth. It always seems to be the case, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Politics is disgusting sometimes. And this is one of those cases.
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  Speaker 1: They went after a rape victim who saw other evidence
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  Speaker 1: of people being raped and they made fun of her.
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  Speaker 1: And the press was right there with them. The media, CNN, MSNBC,
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  Speaker 1: they slimed her too. Shame on them. Shame on them.
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  Speaker 1: I hope they feel embarrassed today. I'd like to see apologies.
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  Speaker 1: I doubt we'll get it in the middle of a midterm,
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  Speaker 1: but we should.
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  Speaker 3: They have the documentary evidence now. She was spot on.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry that I doubted her. I'm sorry because it
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  Speaker 3: sounds so unhinged, like hell hath no fury like a
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  Speaker 3: woman's corn.
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  Speaker 2: She was spot on. Anyway, up next.
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  Speaker 3: Speaking of a woman and a man, the second debate, see,
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  Speaker 3: they get a second debate.
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  Speaker 2: This is what should be mandatory.
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  Speaker 3: Mike Lawler, who's like Glenn Slice, he's always on TV,
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  Speaker 3: he'll go to any interview. The congressman from up in
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  Speaker 3: Rockland County in Westchester fighting for his political life against
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  Speaker 3: the cookie-cutter cardboard cutout of what Democrats know can be
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  Speaker 3: a winning ticket based on the two in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: Military veteran, stellar record.
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  Speaker 3: Put her in the mix, and they had a debate
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  Speaker 3: last night, and we're going to analyze it and discuss it.
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  Speaker 1: One of the most watched races, one of the most
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  Speaker 1: hotly contested races in the country, one of the races
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  Speaker 1: that will decide the fate of the House of Representatives
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  Speaker 1: is New York's 17th Congressional District, which is Rockland County
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit of Westchester County. And this race
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  Speaker 1: is so big. Listen to this, Curtis. This race is
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  Speaker 1: so big. that normally in a congressional race, it gets
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  Speaker 1: no coverage. It gets no coverage, gets no TV coverage,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: no TV station's going to air it, and it usually
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: is something you're going to see in line or you'll
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  Speaker 1: see clips of it on social media. This one was
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  Speaker 1: on PIX11. How often do you see a congressional race
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  Speaker 1: on a major television station? I'll play a little bit
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: of it just so you can hear it, but everybody
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: said exactly what you would expect them to say. Kay Conley,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: she was going after Trump. And Hochul was going after
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Mamdani and going after Hochul.
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  Speaker 13: You saw how quickly my opponent wanted to get off
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  Speaker 13: of this topic. And that's because five data centers were
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  Speaker 13: built on his watch. And now there are three more
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  Speaker 13: on the way.
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  Speaker 2: I support local control of zoning.
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  Speaker 5: The five data centers in Rockland County that were built
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  Speaker 5: were built before I was in elected office.
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  Speaker 2: They were approved by a Democrat.
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  Speaker 1: Blame you, blame them. Blame you, blame them. Now we
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: can go to ICE.
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  Speaker 13: What we are seeing right now with the conduct of
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  Speaker 13: ICE is posing a public safety hazard. The same things
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  Speaker 13: that we expect of our local law enforcement, we should
• 28:27
  Speaker 13: expect of our federal law enforcement.
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  Speaker 5: Kathy Hochul's disastrous new law, which Kate Conley supports, making
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  Speaker 5: New York a sanctuary state, prohibits cooperation between local law
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  Speaker 5: enforcement and federal immigration officials.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, ICE needs reforms.
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  Speaker 5: I've said repeatedly, body cameras, no masks, identifiable uniforms.
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  Speaker 1: I could go back and forth and back and forth
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  Speaker 1: and back and forth, but they said exactly what you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: would expect them to say. And I don't think, and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I've read a lot of the people that have written
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: about it, I don't think anybody thought there was a
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  Speaker 1: clear winner or loser.
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  Speaker 3: No, but it's part of this Democratic strategy. Find a
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  Speaker 3: woman who's been in military service. She was served a
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  Speaker 3: long time. So you don't have this Swalwell problem that
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: you sometimes have with male candidates increasingly more and more.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: And they are neck and neck. I want this race over.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: It's 20 days left. I want it over tomorrow. I've
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: never seen more commercials in my life. You know, one
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: minute it's Kate Conley. She's a hydro with Zoran Mondami,
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: you know, on her shoulder. Next minute it's Lawler. They
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: turn him into a hydro with Donald Trump on his shoulder.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: way too many commercials. Sometimes they play for them. within
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  Speaker 3: one break on a network. For them, for just one race.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ridiculous. But again, it is one of the
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  Speaker 1: races that's going to decide who has control of the house.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: So it's one of the biggest races we're going to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: be talking about over the next couple of weeks. which
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: we're going to be covering on election night. I hope
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