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Health Series 6: Beth Mielbrecht / Health Detective, Energy Medicine · Come Together with Ephraim Herschmann

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  Welcome to another episode of Come Together.
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  And we're live. We're back with another episode.
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  Beth Milbrax, welcome. So happy to have you here.
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  How are you? Delighted to be here.
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  Thanks Efraim. I'm so happy to have you on.
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  I came across your profile on Pod Match and, and I was
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  fascinated by the, the transition from your engineering
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  background to your health, I guess your health focus now and
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  your energy and health focus now.
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  And So what I really, and I guess the truth is that 50
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  minutes feels like it's perfect for kind of a narrative and a
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  story. So I guess we, you know, could
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  you want to start by telling me a little bit about your
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  background and where you know where you're from and you know
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  how you know how this happened? Oh, sure, sure.
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  So great. Yeah, you're right.
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  I am a mechanical engineer. I'm an engineer, and engineers
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  like to solve problems. And that is just a
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  characteristic of people who are really practical, grounded, see
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  a problem, want to create a solution, like to build things.
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  So your engineers are the ones that build your cars and they
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  build your bridges and your buildings, and then all the
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  boring stuff like make sure there's heating and cooling and
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  all of all of that practical stuff.
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  And I love doing that. And I went to school, studied
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  engineering. I am also a licensed
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  professional engineer in the state of New York.
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  And but I've always been fascinated by health.
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  I've been a student of health for decades, and I decided to
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  switch to focus on health and being a health detective when I
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  noticed that my friends and family were very accepting of
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  their health limitations. I would hear things like, I have
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  a migraine again this week. It happens every week.
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  I don't know why that is. I guess that's just life or have
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  an ache and pain in my hips and I'll just have to wait till I
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  get a hip replacement someday. There's nothing that can be done
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  right? And I was pulling my hair out
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  because yes, you can know why you're getting migraines Yes,
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  you don't have to live like that.
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  Yes, you can heal the the cartilage in your joints so that
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  you can move without pain. You don't have to accept that.
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  And that's when I started on a journey to figure out what is an
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  easy solution, What is the best way to find out why?
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  Why people are hurting? And they don't need to just
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  accept that that's the way life is going to be.
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  Yeah, beautiful. So you take that same kind of
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  mentality that made you a that made you an engineer and the
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  same kind of train of thought. And you applied it to the people
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  that you care about around you and said, hey, you know, if
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  there's a way that I could solve problems in one way, then
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  there's got to be another. You know, you could just take
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  the same school of thought and apply it to to something else.
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  Exactly it's the same process and pattern recognition will get
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  you so far. You know you you know how to
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  solve things based on you've seen the situation before.
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  Let's try the same thing that works really well with
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  emergencies when you have an acute injury or there's been an
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  accident of some kind. People know how to assess, how
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  to treat what's the best thing. Yes, that is super important.
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  But if something's been lingering for a long time and
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  that was basic patterns of health techniques haven't helped
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  you, you might want to look a little closer.
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  And so that's when that's when people come to me, when the
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  things they've tried don't work anymore.
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  And so, yeah, as my background is about digging in, do I see?
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  Yes, people come to me as last resort, which is they've tried a
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  bunch of things and nothing's working.
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  They don't know why and they're tired with the traditional
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  answers that they're getting. They're tired of going to
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  different specialists. They've got one for everybody
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  part and it's not making sense and they don't feel good.
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  Yeah, I just did a an episode the other day with a pediatric
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  obesity surgeon, which was really interesting and he's a
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  very, very sweet guy. But one of the things that we
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  were talking about or one of the things that he said, and and I
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  guess he was specifically referring to obesity, He was
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  saying that, you know, there's obviously many other factors
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  other than when people today feel like it's rah rah
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  lifestyle. And he says it's, it's a little
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  bit more nuanced or a lot more nuanced than that.
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  But it felt that when he was essentially kind of giving into
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  the fact and maybe he's right as, you know, maybe he's maybe
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  he's right to do this. Maybe he's just observing human
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  nature is like, people aren't going to just change their
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  lifestyles forever, you know, And like that kind of feels like
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  a little bit of a sad, a sad or morose kind of perspective to,
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  you know, conclusion to come to, which is that at the end of the
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  day, it's so overwhelming and it's so exhausting and requires
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  so much effort to just change your lifestyle that even people
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  that manage to do it for a little bit, you know, you can't
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  expect them to do it forever. So like, what are you going to
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  do? And I'm not, I wasn't really
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  sure what I thought of that about that.
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  You know, I think that again, you know, part of the value of
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  the show is to allow people to express opinions, you know, and,
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  and I think that I'm sure that what he's saying is grounded in
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  20-30 years of experience and, you know, with, with, with
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  obesity, with people that suffer from obesity.
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  So I'm sure he has more information than I do, but it
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  just kind of felt like a little bit more of glass half empty or,
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  you know, like, you know, that kind of perspective.
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  Do you find that people are willing to really kind of change
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  their their their outlook once they cut, once they start seeing
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  positive results? Absolutely, yes they do.
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  Because yes, there is culture. There is a a whole lot of
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  influences that want to keep you on the same path that you're on.
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  And I think that if it becomes important enough to you, you'll
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  make that change. For example, if you're sensitive
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  to coffee, even though everyone drinks coffee and it's such a
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  part of culture, if you realize how it makes you feel and how it
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  affects your sleep, that might just be for you as somebody else
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  might be fine with it. But if that's you, you'll easily
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  in one day say I'm done. Could be.
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  It could be alcohol. It's so socially acceptable to
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  drink alcohol. Everyone's wearing these
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  wearables. They've got rings, watches, all
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  kinds of gadgets. Track your sleep.
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  You know what's happening, you'll know.
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  Is sleep more important? Maybe.
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  Sometimes it's more important to be social and go out and drink
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  with my friends, and other times it's not.
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  But you need to know and make that decision.
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  I think that by time people start working with me, they know
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  that they're responsible for their lives.
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  Things don't just happen to them.
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  They're responsible and then they can decide if they want to
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  make changes. And if that's with what this
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  doctor was saying about their lifestyle, about their food
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  choices, sure it is. It could be seen as harder to
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  prepare food at home, but it's so much more enjoyable.
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  There's so many more positive things there's.
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  So I think that he might be looking at a large swath of the
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  population who is in crisis. And so he has that perspective.
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  But I say people need to they go for it.
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  It it's totally worth it to make the changes and change your
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  life. Yeah, yeah, I, I have to agree.
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  I think that I think, and it's interesting because there's
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  almost like two types of rationale when you're talking to
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  people is you could talk to a group of people where you kind
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  of make broad, you know, generalizations.
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  And then there's talking to individual and, you know, and
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  giving that kind of, you know, like the, the famous metaphor of
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  the tree in the forest. You know, you can't look at the
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  tree and pay attention to the whole forest at the same time.
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  And you can't pay look at the whole forest and notice too much
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  about 1 particular tree at one time either, you know.
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  And so life is about kind of shifting your, your perspective.
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  Which one are you looking at? Are you looking at the broad
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  spectrum or like the zoomed in individuals?
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  And I think that, you know, like what you just said, he's talking
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  about the crisis when it comes to a broad population of people,
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  you know, but when you're dealing with individuals, I
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  mean, I have to believe that you say you can make that change.
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  Like you can make that change as you, you know, as a person.
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  I found that. I found that yesterday.
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  I, I, I just started teaching again.
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  So, you know, the summer ended and school's back up again.
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  And I walked into class and I got a, a class full of 9th
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  graders, you know, and then, and they've already gotten the
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  notion in their head that they're the dumb class because
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  they're, you know, because they're ranked as, you know,
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  basic or whatever I'm looking at like you guys are.
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  So with it, you guys are going to do great this year.
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  I'm, I'm so excited for you guys to be able to like, I was like,
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  you might not be sitting at your desk for all 45 minutes of the
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  day of the class, but you guys are going to learn a lot.
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  I could tell. And you could just feel the
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  shift in the room where like, well, you know, where there
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  would be individual kids that really, like, you saw like it,
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  it went into their heads that, Hey, I'm, I am capable of, of
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  doing this. And then the other kids like,
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  yeah, OK, what are you talking about?
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  But it was far more, it was far more positive than negative.
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  And I feel like people respond accordingly.
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  If we have that kind of you can do it mentality, people like,
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  yeah, I could, you know. I love that and it's so
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  important. I'm so glad that you're doing
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  that and you're conveying that message.
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  I tell people you can heal. Your body wants to heal and
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  sometimes they think that's impossible.
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  No, my, these bad things keep happening.
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  It's not my fault. It's I don't, I can't do
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  anything about it. My body's falling apart.
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  It's attacking me. No, it's not.
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  It wants to heal and I will hold that just like you're holding it
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  for those 9th graders. You're holding that baton that
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  they can learn, they can excel, they can and enjoy it while
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  they're doing it. And I hold that for people with
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  health that you can heal. It's awesome.
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  You really can. How'd you so, So what?
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  How'd you get started? You start by reading podcast
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  books, your own life, your own family.
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  How'd you get, how'd you get started in terms of the health
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  journey and like how you get so insane?
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  I guess it's always with myself. So it just started with myself
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  as a observing how I grew up and the food that I ate in my
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  prepared in like, you know, McDonald's was a special treat
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  and I would get McDonald's and like, wow, like I was a teenager
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  noticing like, wow, these French fries are really addictive.
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  What is it about that? Or, you know, back in back in
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  the day, iceberg lettuce was a vegetable and that was
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  sufficient, you know, and then just noticing that and how, how
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  I grew up through growing up, I think I've been every diet I've
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  tried everything I love experimenting on myself.
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  So I've been gluten free, I've been a vegan, I've been
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  vegetarian. I have been, you know, just food
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  that I get from the farmers market, just food that I
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  prepare. I have then gone to just making
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  my own bone broth and meat that I find at from local farmers.
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  So everything. And then I'd see, well, how do I
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  feel when I do that? And I've learned that one dogma
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  is not right even for me at all times in my life, that when I am
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  busy raising my child, when I was pregnant, when I am changing
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  into my later years, I have different nutritional needs.
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  And if I don't adapt what I want.
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  So you know, when I go to the farmers market and I'm like, Oh
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  my goodness, I need to buy all of these apples or a spinach, I
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  learned to listen to it. So it started with me, but then
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  it also was with my son. I have one son, he's 23 now.
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  And my whole journey into energy medicine started with him.
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  So it started with I was a new mom, he was an infant.
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  So you have children. You know what this is like, your
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  baby is sleeping and you're going to put your baby down in
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  the crib to keep sleeping and don't want the baby to wake up.
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  So I know this is audio only, but I have my hands cupped.
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  So I put his little body down and then I walk, I back out of
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  the of his nursery and now my hands are up and I'm backing
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  away. Like, did I do it?
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  Did I do it? Is he still sleeping?
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  I put him down, he's still sleeping and I'm backing away.
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  And so my hands are raised up like this and I'm halfway down
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  the hallway and I notice that it feels like there's a steel cable
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  in between the palms of my hands and his little body, like we're
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  connected. What is that feeling?
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  I had never felt that before. I had never felt a feeling of
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  energy in my hands before. And as life would have it, then
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  all of these things came into my world without me even asking for
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  it. I took Reiki classes.
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  I learned about energy. This is it's just crazy how it
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  all happens. But basically my little boy was
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  telling me, hey mom, you need to up level to take care of me.
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  I need you to understand energy. I need you to understand me
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  better because this is what I need to succeed and so.
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  When did he tell you this? That's a pretty mature thing to
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  say. He didn't.
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  I think that's what he was. He didn't.
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  I mean, he's yeah, that's what I think he sensed.
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  No, he did not have words. He's a boy.
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  No, he did not have words. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
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  That's what I think he was encouraging me to do so that
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  whenever as he grew up and through his life, it was always
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  hands on. And even though I took classes
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  and eventually I became a Reiki master teacher and then I took
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  other energy type work and got other certifications, It was
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  always about could I sense where he wasn't balanced And he was
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  very, very receptive to that. That was the primary method of
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  helping him. And then also teaching him how
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  did he feel in his body after he ate lots of bread, he had a
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  stomach ache and encouraging him, OK, how does that feel?
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  And developing language around that.
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  And eventually he grew out of that.
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  Of course, he's a teenager. He ate tons of pizza.
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  And then what happens, it becomes a little, it changes how
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  he reacts to different things. So growing up and going through
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  that journey with him on how to teach somebody else how to pay
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  attention to their body, because I realized that I'm so in tune
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  with my own body and what feels right to me.
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  It's a little unusual. And I, I worked with him and he
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  and he was naturally born that way.
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  So that's the how I got into health.
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  And then I began to notice that some people would eat certain
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  foods and then the next day say, oh, I don't feel well, but not
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  realize that it had any connection to the strange
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  combination of foods they ate the day before.
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  They had no realization, yes. And I, I thought how strange,
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  like I would put one bite of food that didn't agree with me
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  in my mouth and I would notice it right away.
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  So I realized that OK, people have different delays and
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  realizations within their body. So that made me a natural for
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  exploring health. Does your does your and how, how
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  receptive was your son to the to all, to all these ideas as he
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  was growing up? He's 23 now, right?
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  So as a teenager, as a young adult, or, you know, you know,
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  what's, what was his, was he like, OK, mom kind of thing?
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  Because my mom, when I was in high school, my sister had
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  psoriasis and she changed her diet and it totally, totally
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  helped. And I used to have terribly dry
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  skin and dandruff. And I always blamed it, see, on
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  the seasons. I always blamed it like, OK,
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  well, it's cold in New York. And I mean, I, we're, you know,
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  I mentioned I went to College in Binghamton and I'm from
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  Rockland. So, you know, we got cold
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  winters and and I would always and then with the change of
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  seasons that always, you know, I'd also get like, you know, I
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  get aggravated skin and I refuse to.
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  And my mom would be like, you have to change your diet.
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  The amount you're drinking is not good.
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  The amount of pizza you're eating is not good.
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  The amount of garbage that you put and and they eat my Mama.
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  Come on. It's not who are you talking
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  about? It's not my food that I have
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  dandruff. OK, don't be ridiculous.
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  And I mean, you know, Fast forward a couple of years later
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  and it took me till I was like doing my own work and figuring
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  it out my own way. I'm like full circle.
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  I'm like, I call my mom like, Oh my God, you're right.
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  You were right the whole time. I'm so sorry.
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  You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
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  You just wasted on the young. I feel like an idiot.
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  I'm sorry. And now what do I do about
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  making sure my kids don't do this?
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  Because I was like, I don't want them to go another 5-10 years
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  like I did and suffer like that, you know?
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  So how is your how does your son feel about about all this?
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  It's it's the exact same story, exact same story.
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  You know all the sugar. So why you know, I would talk to
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  him. Well, how do you feel?
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  Did you notice your skin is breaking out?
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  What are you eating? He, he, he worked at, you know,
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  also in New York, there's Wegmans everywhere.
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  He worked at Wegmans and, and, and, and there's a bulk candy
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  aisle. Gosh, you can, when he had his
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  own money, you know, you could go buy as much candy as you want
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  or after Halloween, half price Halloween candy.
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  Like, yes, he had to explore that all himself, but because he
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  had grown up with trying, like knowing how things felt in his
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  body, he was able to notice like, wow, I'm not going to do
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  that again. And yeah, it did take.
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  He did go through all those years.
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  Peer pressure is intense. And you want enormous and you
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  want to be just like everyone else.
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  And so I get with like you started at the beginning with
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  the obesity Dr. For for young people, it is intense, but you
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  know, it's a little bit more normalized now to be speaking
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  out and that's what I hope to share with.
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  Yeah, yeah. And and he so he went through
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  exactly the same thing as you. That's great.
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  It's good to know that it's a, it's a young man's journey, but
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  it also makes me a little nervous about my son.
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  But I like you said, though, and I really, I do believe this.
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  Like for example, my wife found it.
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  My wife started, she loves this now she started milling her own
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  flour and then using it as the base for, you know, bread or
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  cookies or waffles or pizza or whatever it is.
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  And like, you know, from and, and she's like, I can't even
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  tell you how much nutrition is in this flour that I'm milling
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  by myself that, you know, that we're deprived of in
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  commercially, in commercial, you know, bread and pizza and stuff
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  like that. And, you know, the preservatives
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  apparently that they put into that, that allows the bread to
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  stay fresh for so long actually eats away at the potential
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  nutrients that we would be getting otherwise.
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  So she's like, the food's not going to be fresh for a month
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  like it is in the supermarket, but we're just making for the
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  house anyway. So, you know, we'll have it for
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  dinner one night and then we'll, you know, Saturday night's pizza
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  night. Well, we'll make our own pizza
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  with our own, you know, So I'm kind of hoping that that by
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  introducing this at an early age, that he that his body
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  consciously or unconsciously will say, hey, you know, sure.
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  This is this is not something that you should be, you know,
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  eating right now or like, OK, like this is this is this is
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  acceptable. This is pretty good.
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  And I and I hope that it kind of be able, is able to tell him
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  that in the future. What other aspects of energy,
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  because people hear energy healing and they kind of take a
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  step back. There's a very strong
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  disassociation, like when I tell my high schoolers that we're
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  going to do poetry and they're like poetry.
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  And I'm like, you don't even know what poetry is.
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  I was like, you know that feeling.
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  And then I described to him yesterday, it was so funny.
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  I was like, imagine the feeling. You walk into a pizza shop and
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  the smell of that brick oven just smacks you in the face.
• 21:52
  And then you and then you smell the flower and you feel the
• 21:54
  flower in the air that's underneath the dough.
• 21:57
  And they're like, yeah, I'm like, you know, they're like,
• 21:58
  oh, yeah, that's awesome. Like that's poetry.
• 22:00
  I was like, whatever. I just whatever I just said to
• 22:02
  you, that's poetry. It's not a bad thing.
• 22:04
  It's going to be OK. You're going to be fine with it.
• 22:06
  So can you, can you elaborate a little bit on the energy healing
• 22:10
  and what and what the foundations are and what the
• 22:12
  ideas are? Absolutely.
• 22:15
  Yeah, Energy healing is popular in some circles but really
• 22:21
  distrusted in others. I don't use it a lot.
• 22:25
  I don't use the phrase energy healing because of that reason.
• 22:28
  It's, you know, it's people who do yoga and lead retreats in
• 22:33
  Bali and Mexico that and that's true.
• 22:38
  Energy healing does happen in that way.
• 22:41
  I like energy medicine. To me, energy medicine has many
• 22:48
  proven science based methodologies.
• 22:53
  One of them is homeopathy. Homeopathy is using diluted
• 23:00
  substances that make a reaction in your body and that encourages
• 23:07
  increased communication and healing.
• 23:10
  It's the trigger for your body that says this is what I need.
• 23:13
  Homeopathy. There's one.
• 23:15
  Another one is acupuncture. So some people are not sure that
• 23:22
  we have energy running in our bodies, but we do.
• 23:25
  And they're they're going highways called meridians.
• 23:28
  And acupuncture's been around for so long.
• 23:31
  You put, you stimulate points on the body and then it unblocks.
• 23:38
  It encourages healing. So that is also energy medicine,
• 23:42
  Reiki, that's hands on healing. It can be done at a distance or
• 23:46
  in person. That's energy medicine as well.
• 23:49
  So energy medicine has these things, Reiki.
• 23:53
  Or what's the OK? What's the idea behind it?
• 23:57
  So here, here it is. Every single person on this
• 24:01
  planet is an energy healer. All of us, we all you know we
• 24:06
  have intentions. We can use our hands.
• 24:09
  We put our hands on our kids. We put our hands on our heads
• 24:13
  when we don't feel well. We know we rub high 5 you you
• 24:19
  you, you. You run into a doorway.
• 24:22
  You rub your arm. You know you you not naturally
• 24:25
  use energy healing. Reiki is a format that was
• 24:32
  channeled or downloaded by a Japanese man in the 1930s.
• 24:37
  So it has a Japanese name. And because he's a Japanese man,
• 24:42
  it came through in his culture which said let's have a
• 24:47
  procedure, let's have a step by step process, let's have some
• 24:51
  symbols, and all the symbols are Japanese characters.
• 24:56
  We don't need any of that. It's a good framework for people
• 24:59
  who want to learn. But once you know that, you can
• 25:03
  feel it. You don't need any structure
• 25:06
  whatsoever. All energy healing is a format
• 25:10
  to get you comfortable with trusting your own intuition,
• 25:14
  being able to be clear and use the energy of the universe, not
• 25:20
  your own. You know, there's a difference
• 25:22
  between giving of yourself and giving from the universe.
• 25:28
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, so Reiki is, is hands on
• 25:33
  healing or distance healing. And there could you could follow
• 25:37
  a format or not. I don't.
• 25:41
  Once I learned the, the format, I left it behind.
• 25:45
  I I just say, hey, this is what we need to do today.
• 25:48
  And so when I was when I was a Reiki practitioner, it was all
• 25:52
  free form, but it was nice to have a framework to learn, to
• 25:56
  get started. Just like when you're going to
• 25:57
  teach your students poetry, you might have some guidelines or
• 26:01
  some, here's a framework you could follow to get you started.
• 26:06
  You know, we could follow a haiku or we could follow, I
• 26:10
  don't know, some other format. I'm thinking of iambic
• 26:14
  pectameter. Something like like, hey, there
• 26:16
  is something that is really hard to do or it's really easy to do,
• 26:20
  but you don't have to do any of those things to talk about pizza
• 26:25
  as poetry. So the same with energy.
• 26:29
  And that's how I explain Reiki. So what applications would you
• 26:35
  use Reiki? And if someone like if, how
• 26:37
  would you determine like which tool in your toolbox do you do
• 26:41
  you use? Because I feel like you know
• 26:44
  when you have so many. Different options, yeah.
• 26:47
  Yeah, please. So right now I don't see any
• 26:52
  clients one-on-one for Reiki as a as a stand alone practice at
• 26:58
  all. That is right now I use Reiki as
• 27:01
  part of what I do in my precision healing method
• 27:06
  program. I use Reiki when I'm used doing
• 27:09
  trapped emotion release. So I have, I try to combine all
• 27:14
  of the tools that I have into one program.
• 27:17
  And for there's one aspect that I do called trapped emotion
• 27:22
  release. And for that I do, I call it
• 27:27
  switching into Reiki mode, which is just switching into
• 27:32
  connecting with my guides, my teachers, my clients, guides and
• 27:37
  teachers and asking to release something that they don't need
• 27:42
  any more, something that they have said, hey, I'm ready to
• 27:45
  release this horrible feeling. I don't want it any more than I
• 27:50
  go in and help facilitate that. And that's one aspect of what I
• 27:55
  do in the precision healing method.
• 27:59
  That would apply to something like an emotional pain or trauma
• 28:05
  that manifests in your body that you're trying to alleviate and
• 28:09
  get rid of. That's.
• 28:12
  What it would be so in. Yeah.
• 28:15
  So there's two types of emotional issues that I help my
• 28:19
  clients with. 1 is how you're feeling right now.
• 28:22
  You've got grief or you're stressed or there's some you're
• 28:30
  just struggling in some way and there could be all kinds of
• 28:33
  reasons what that is. So that's your day-to-day and
• 28:36
  you're you're dealing with this that needs different support
• 28:40
  than something that's been buried from a long time ago.
• 28:44
  That is just an underlying dread.
• 28:47
  You know, you experience something horrible a long time
• 28:50
  ago. You thought you were over it,
• 28:53
  but every once in a while like what is this?
• 28:56
  Why does this fear come up to me?
• 28:59
  I like it because I'm an engineer.
• 29:02
  I want the quickest and fastest solution.
• 29:05
  I am not a therapist. If you think you need to have
• 29:08
  therapy about this old issue, go see a therapist.
• 29:12
  That's definitely not my specialty.
• 29:14
  So if when I find out that you don't even have to know what it
• 29:21
  is, because through bioenergetic testing, I will ask is there
• 29:26
  something that needs to be released?
• 29:28
  Then if something comes up, then I will release it.
• 29:34
  And you may have a memory of it or maybe you don't.
• 29:39
  So there's your current emotions and then there is old stuck
• 29:43
  stuff. And you know what?
• 29:44
  Old stuck emotions tend to settle in areas of weakness in
• 29:49
  your body really when like like things that don't heal, there's
• 29:57
  usually some emotions that are kind of tied up in it.
• 30:01
  If it just won't get better after you try everything you've
• 30:04
  been to the physical therapist and like, but my back still
• 30:07
  hurts. Well, because there's an
• 30:09
  emotional component to it. So you can do all the exercises,
• 30:13
  do all the physical therapy, but there's probably, you probably
• 30:16
  need to look at the emotions as well.
• 30:19
  That's fascinating. That's so interesting.
• 30:22
  I what's fascinating, just reflecting for a minute of my
• 30:26
  own life, is that I was very I am, but for a long time I was
• 30:30
  very fear driven my whole life. And that includes fear of
• 30:34
  physical confrontation as well. And I forced myself a couple of
• 30:38
  months ago to start taking jiu jitsu and the starting to do jiu
• 30:45
  jitsu right, which by definition means I'm getting I'm using all
• 30:51
  parts of my body I have never used in my entire life.
• 30:54
  I was I I've gone through the last couple of months this like
• 30:58
  real legitimate period of working out a lot.
• 31:03
  I've been a whole other layer or dimension has been triggered and
• 31:08
  I'm and I'm so curious if it has to do with this newfound
• 31:12
  physical expression. And I know that and I've been
• 31:16
  grappling and working with and building and making
• 31:18
  breakthroughs in really, really amazing ways, you know, with,
• 31:22
  with parts of myself that I've really never been even even able
• 31:26
  to look face to face at. And, and I'm putting that
• 31:30
  together also because my wife had gone a couple of months back
• 31:33
  to what's called the dance therapy class.
• 31:35
  And it was also that same notion, which is that our body
• 31:39
  stores and our body keeps trauma and fit in different physical
• 31:43
  places. And by day, you know, by actual,
• 31:45
  you know, physical emotions set to set to different music, you
• 31:49
  can actually kind of release it or access it and pinpoint it.
• 31:53
  And I really do believe in all that.
• 31:54
  I really think that, I mean, I don't, I think that anyone
• 31:57
  that's had these experiences are these experiences are so
• 32:00
  profound and so clear and so tangible that like you can't
• 32:07
  ever say that you can't, you lose a lot of skepticism just
• 32:11
  based on your experience, which is really, really cool.
• 32:17
  I'm so glad you're doing that. The best way to move emotion and
• 32:20
  metabolize the emotion is through movement.
• 32:24
  Acknowledge it and then move it out.
• 32:26
  So if you were feeling like, Hey, this feels weird, but I'm
• 32:31
  going through jiu jitsu and you kept shoving it down, you would
• 32:36
  just be compacting it and shoving it and keeping it there.
• 32:38
  But the fact that you're saying, hey, I acknowledge this.
• 32:41
  You're, you're letting your body move it out because right, your
• 32:45
  issues are in your tissues so You Can Dance it out.
• 32:49
  Some people like all different ways.
• 32:51
  There's so many different ways to do it.
• 32:52
  It's not just one way. And that is great because now
• 32:57
  you are able to stand in a new place without being burdened by
• 33:02
  old stuff. And so you know, what I find out
• 33:04
  is sometimes it's not even your own stuff.
• 33:07
  Sometimes it's inherited, sometimes it's absorbed from
• 33:11
  someone else. Sometimes the people's emotions
• 33:17
  aren't even their own. They're inherited or observed
• 33:21
  from somebody else. And so it's really good when you
• 33:24
  move your body and get those out.
• 33:26
  You don't need to carry other people's stuff.
• 33:29
  I'm actually recording an episode next week, I hope,
• 33:33
  unless it's subject to change, but with someone that actually a
• 33:37
  therapist that works with intergenerational trauma, which
• 33:41
  I'm really fascinated by because my own family history is my my
• 33:47
  boats. Both my mother's parents are
• 33:49
  were survivors of the Holocaust. And so the type of household
• 33:54
  that she grew up in obviously was going to be pretty different
• 33:56
  than, you know, the typical American household or, you know,
• 34:00
  typical, you know, household that a lot of people are growing
• 34:02
  up in, growing up with two survivors from such a, you know,
• 34:05
  tragedy. And you can see very, very
• 34:10
  clearly, like what traits, you know, and what perspective and
• 34:15
  what kind of attitudes are passed down out of like almost
• 34:20
  genetic necessity, out of biological necessity.
• 34:22
  You know, it's really, really fascinating.
• 34:24
  And so it's, it's so cool to think that certain events could
• 34:28
  mean so much that your bot that your genes say, you know what,
• 34:32
  your children are going to need this and your grandchildren are
• 34:34
  going to need this experience. So we're going to just like pass
• 34:37
  it along to them and make sure that it sticks with them because
• 34:40
  that's how important this is. It's so fascinating.
• 34:45
  It is and so emotions get passed down also nutrient deficiencies
• 34:53
  get passed down, environmental toxicities like heavy metals or
• 35:00
  pesticide residue, like they get passed down as well.
• 35:05
  And so being able to clean up your own body and take care of
• 35:09
  yourself, doing the best you can is the best key for health.
• 35:14
  Looking at yourself from all perspectives, I don't think that
• 35:20
  there is ever an end to trying to figure out how can I be
• 35:27
  healthier when you don't feel good, when you don't feel good
• 35:31
  or something's bothering you, There's so many avenues to
• 35:34
  explore. It's never just one thing.
• 35:37
  So whether you work with any any kind of practitioner, there's
• 35:43
  always more and it's best to have an open mind because we're
• 35:48
  learning things all the time. That's fascinating that you're
• 35:51
  going to have a guest on about intergenerational trauma.
• 35:55
  Yeah, I'm really excited about it.
• 35:57
  I'm really excited about it. And I think that because it's
• 36:00
  also, there's also the vice versa, right?
• 36:02
  There are traits that, you know, if my grandfather, my
• 36:05
  grandmother would have been far more necessary.
• 36:09
  And for me, it's not useful to have.
• 36:11
  And so for me, I have to just, I have to discard that, you know,
• 36:14
  even though genetically it's dispositioned in me.
• 36:18
  And then physically, actually also the pediatric that a doctor
• 36:22
  that I spoke to the other day said, I, he said that there were
• 36:24
  studies that the, the amount of sugar that our bodies are like
• 36:29
  kind of used to and our ability to process it start from the
• 36:33
  first, I think in the like from conception for the first two
• 36:37
  years that the baby's alive. So, you know, nine months in the
• 36:41
  womb and then two years. And then when the baby turns 3,
• 36:44
  that's where the point gets set. But if, you know, even a even
• 36:47
  even a mother that's carrying has to be conscientious as to
• 36:50
  what she's consuming because she's passing that on to her,
• 36:53
  that passing on to the kid. And my wife gave birth just four
• 36:58
  or five months ago, thank God. And you know, thank God
• 37:01
  everything was OK. But it was really it, you know,
• 37:04
  we were talking the nurse and the baby was 77172.
• 37:08
  And the nurse said she's been seeing babies that are 12,
• 37:11
  thirteen, 14 lbs at birth. And I'm like, I've never even
• 37:15
  heard like 10 was considered massive when I, you know, when I
• 37:19
  was growing up and with my family.
• 37:21
  And she said that you know that a lot of this has to do with
• 37:25
  genetics getting passed down from conception.
• 37:29
  Yeah, wow, Wow. Well, congratulations to you and
• 37:32
  your new little one. It's great to have a healthy
• 37:36
  baby. And you know, that brings up
• 37:39
  another point of nowadays when I hear from people who come to me
• 37:44
  and they say I got my blood test back and it says I'm normal
• 37:49
  here, but not normal someplace else.
• 37:51
  Wait a minute. What does normal mean?
• 37:54
  Normal means that the lab company is comparing you to an
• 37:58
  average population. Do you want to be compared to an
• 38:02
  average population? Is that average population
• 38:05
  healthy? It's not comparing it to healthy
• 38:07
  people. It's comparing it to an average
• 38:08
  population. So you know, and, and is that
• 38:11
  the best indicator and the best marker?
• 38:13
  That's a whole nother story. But yeah, averages, you know,
• 38:18
  you look at it, clothing sizes, chair sizes, things are things
• 38:26
  are changing based on how the population is evolving.
• 38:30
  Is that what you want to do? Even things like daily
• 38:33
  recommended you like average daily recommended sugar or carbs
• 38:37
  or whatever. I'm sure that the goal post gets
• 38:38
  moved around. I mean, I don't know if I don't
• 38:40
  know for certain, but I could just imagine that as time goes
• 38:43
  on that, you know, the things change.
• 38:46
  Last question. Now you have to go in a couple
• 38:47
  of minutes. Last thing that I wanted to talk
• 38:50
  to you about, I think is one of the more important things or the
• 38:53
  more inspiring things is how you can, how you had the courage to
• 38:58
  make such a, you know, significant change in your life,
• 39:01
  career change or profession change or, you know, after
• 39:05
  having a whole career. Because I know that some things
• 39:07
  that most people, a lot of people I know, at least whether
• 39:10
  it's anecdotally with family or whether it's friends or things I
• 39:13
  read, is that people feel like you build to you're 30, maybe
• 39:18
  you're 40 and then like you kind of close the rest of your life.
• 39:21
  And I personally disagree, you know, but it's easy for me to
• 39:25
  say as a 30 year old, you know, can you, can you elaborate a
• 39:28
  little bit as to like what that, what your whole experience was
• 39:30
  like for a couple minutes? Sure, yes.
• 39:36
  I hope that I'm a different person tomorrow than I am today.
• 39:41
  I hope that I'm a different and better person next year than I
• 39:45
  am this year. I'm always looking to grow.
• 39:48
  I'm not afraid of making a change.
• 39:51
  I've been successful in everything I do.
• 39:54
  I have no reason to doubt that I wouldn't be successful in this
• 39:59
  new direction. Listen, there's plenty of work.
• 40:03
  People need solutions. I am.
• 40:09
  I have a fearlessness and I have a vision and I see it so
• 40:12
  clearly. I'm confident in the results
• 40:15
  that I've gotten for my clients. They the results speak for
• 40:18
  themselves and they've written testimonials for me.
• 40:22
  Whether or not this is the right business at the right time,
• 40:25
  whether it's popular, doesn't matter to me.
• 40:29
  I get people reaching out to me all the time saying do you want
• 40:33
  to scale your business and scale it and grow up to these, you
• 40:37
  know, enormous numbers. And I write back and I say, this
• 40:40
  is not a scalable business. This this is me doing something
• 40:44
  I'm passionate about one-on-one with my clients.
• 40:49
  No, this is not a franchise. This is not replacing me with an
• 40:53
  AI tool. This is personal health coaching
• 40:58
  and bioenergetic testing. So I feel so strongly about it
• 41:03
  and that vision is what carries me through.
• 41:07
  And there's plenty of times where it's, it can be hard.
• 41:11
  It can be hard explaining something that's new to people
• 41:15
  who are based in the traditional mindset.
• 41:19
  So I always look for the success I've seen with myself and my
• 41:24
  family and my clients and I stay grounded.
• 41:28
  I'm not looking for success as determined by LinkedIn or the
• 41:37
  Internet. I'm looking for it as defined by
• 41:41
  what lights me up. And have I made health
• 41:44
  transformations possible for people who didn't think that
• 41:48
  they could have transferred health transformations, People
• 41:50
  who thought that they were stuck forever and nothing would ever
• 41:54
  change, and then they did. Yeah.
• 41:57
  That's that's what I thrive on. So my vision helps keep me
• 42:04
  grounded. And yes, if you want a highly
• 42:08
  scalable business where you can sell to a venture capitalist,
• 42:13
  this is not the right business. But if you want to make a
• 42:17
  difference in people's lives, it is.
• 42:19
  Yeah. So how so?
• 42:21
  Well, that, yeah. So what advice do you think
• 42:23
  you'd give someone that feels like, you know what, like for
• 42:27
  example, my mom, right, my mom, just my youngest, my youngest
• 42:30
  brother's 14. He's just starting high school,
• 42:32
  which means the house is going to be empty for the first time
• 42:35
  in 30 years for her. I she has six kids and you know,
• 42:39
  she's used to being Mama bear and, you know, and, and she has
• 42:42
  grandkids that live nearby, but for the first time, things going
• 42:44
  to be quiet, you know, like she's like, well, what do I do?
• 42:46
  At this point in my life? I'm 55.
• 42:48
  I'm so, you know, whatever it is and I, I got AI got a lot of
• 42:51
  life left. What do I but you know, I spent
• 42:53
  the last 30 years, you know what?
• 42:55
  How do I, how do I do this? What do you think?
• 42:57
  Yeah, everyday say, what brings me joy?
• 43:02
  What do I want to learn? What?
• 43:05
  How can I take care of myself when I couldn't have taken care
• 43:08
  of myself before? Is it walking?
• 43:11
  Is it weightlifting? What do I want to learn?
• 43:14
  So the first step is she's not going to even know what she
• 43:17
  enjoys because her enjoyment is from giving to everyone else.
• 43:22
  So it's describing and finding what she likes and learning that
• 43:28
  again. And at this time of her life, I
• 43:30
  mean, she is just getting started.
• 43:32
  All of that emotional and mental energy that she's given to you
• 43:37
  and your siblings, she now has to create something for herself.
• 43:42
  Maybe her health is great and she doesn't even need to focus
• 43:45
  on that. Maybe there'll be some other
• 43:46
  passion. So the first question is, what
• 43:49
  lights me up? What brings me joy?
• 43:51
  How can I learn about that and do that a little more?
• 43:54
  And if there's something in her health that she's been putting
• 43:56
  off, now is the time she can start taking little baby steps
• 44:00
  towards movement and food and finding new things that bring
• 44:06
  her joy. Beautiful, Beth.
• 44:09
  I really appreciate the time. I'm sorry the, the audio got a
• 44:12
  little choppy over there. I'm sorry about the technical
• 44:15
  issues, but this was really so much fun.
• 44:17
  Maybe we'll do Part 2 a couple of months down the line.
• 44:20
  This is such a, this is so much fun.
• 44:21
  I feel like I want to, I want to, we could talk a lot more and
• 44:24
  I really appreciate the time. I think that what you're doing
• 44:27
  is wonderful and I think that you should keep it up and you
• 44:30
  should have a lot of success. And this is really so nice
• 44:33
  getting to talk to you a little bit.
• 44:35
  Thank you so much Efraim, have a great day.
• 44:37
  You too. Take care.
• 44:38
  I'll be in touch. Bye bye.
• 44:39
  Bye bye.