Latest / The BioHub - by Avetix / Episode 110 - JPM Special - Maureen Hillenmeyer - CEO & Founder Hexagon Bio
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- 0:04So welcome to a live special at JPM of the Bio Hub podcast.
- 0:09I'm with Maureen Hillenmeyer, the CEO and founder of Hexagon
- 0:13Bio. So far, they've raised 190
- 0:15million. They've grown from scratch to 45
- 0:18people and they're close to proof of concept.
- 0:22Welcome, Maureen. How are you?
- 0:23Good, thank you for having me Max this.
- 0:24Is great. It's a pleasure.
- 0:26Yeah. I think let's just start off
- 0:28with who? A hexagon.
- 0:30What are you guys doing? What's your journey been so far?
- 0:33Yeah, sounds great. So Hexagon is based in Menlo
- 0:36Park, CA. We're 45 people.
- 0:38As you mentioned, we're focused on antibody drug conjugates from
- 0:41oncology, initially breast cancer and then expanding into
- 0:43other types of cancers. So the company was founded, spun
- 0:47out of Stanford, initially focused on natural products.
- 0:52So things like penicillin, the famous antibiotic came from a
- 0:55fungus. Taxol came from a plant.
- 0:59Many drugs for infectious disease and cancer were found
- 1:02from these natural sources. People think because they
- 1:05evolved over millions of years to be very potent and specific
- 1:08drugs initially to kill off things in their environment like
- 1:12bacteria or fast growing cells. Some of those became useful for
- 1:16humans. For example, in penicillin we
- 1:18get overrun with infections or in cancer certain types of cells
- 1:21are growing too fast. Taxol is one that slows down
- 1:24that growth. So Hexagon, we developed
- 1:27technology to speed discovery of the next generation of natural
- 1:31products, particularly as applied to oncology.
- 1:35Yeah, amazing. And you guys have come pretty
- 1:38long way, right? Like we're talking from Sanford
- 1:41spin out to raising 190 million through BC to growing to 100 to
- 1:4645 people just talks through the journey so far and like what
- 1:50it's been like. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:51So that was interesting. So my background is a scientist
- 1:54by training, initially thought about academia.
- 1:56I wanted to cure cancers through research, was at Stanford,
- 2:01working at Stanford, and really got excited about industry
- 2:05companies, everyone rowing the same direction to cure diseases,
- 2:10and then within industry got especially excited about small
- 2:13companies and the speed at which these can move and really come
- 2:18up with innovative medicines. So being in the Bay Area, I had
- 2:22a lot of exposure to founders, companies, venture capitalists,
- 2:28just knew a lot of people who went into that business.
- 2:30People always ask me, how did you even think of starting a
- 2:32company or becoming ACEO? And it was honestly just.
- 2:35A bad question, right? Yeah.
- 2:36Yeah. And it was just very normal in
- 2:38this area. A lot of people do that.
- 2:41So got to learn what kinds of things venture capital will fund
- 2:45within biotech, what kinds of data are needed at various
- 2:48stages of of VC funding. So we're working at, we were
- 2:53working at Stanford, got some pulmonary data that excited
- 2:55venture capitalists and spun out the company and scaled from
- 2:59there over a seed A&B rounds funding.
- 3:03I mean, amazing, yeah. And you've got some milestones
- 3:07coming up as well. Yeah.
- 3:09So we have some excellent data on our preclinical compound.
- 3:12We're looking ahead to clinical trials and clinical proof of
- 3:15concept within the next couple of years.
- 3:17It's exciting, yeah. Very exciting.
- 3:19It's a great time. Bridge APM, obviously.
- 3:24Let's talk about how it's been for you.
- 3:25Also why it's such an important event.
- 3:28Yeah, yeah. And the reason why it's
- 3:29important, I'm going to say a little more about the science,
- 3:32kind of a science science nerd. So our lead program and really
- 3:37several programs related to it are within antibody drug
- 3:40conjugates. So this is where the field of
- 3:44oncology is moving. Initially it was chemotherapies,
- 3:46small molecules like Taxol that would slow down the growth of
- 3:50cancer cells. More recently, oncology has
- 3:53moved into what are called antibody drug conjugates, where
- 3:56people put those toxins like Taxol, they attach them to
- 4:00antibodies and people are trying to make these into, they say
- 4:04targeted missiles or guided missiles, that the antibody will
- 4:07guide it to the cancer cell where there's some overexpressed
- 4:10antigen and then the toxic payload will kill the cell.
- 4:14There's only really two major classes of payloads out there on
- 4:18the ADC's. They're both natural products
- 4:20are called topo and tubulin inhibitors.
- 4:24People think those have been so successful.
- 4:27These natural products have been successful again because they
- 4:29evolved over millions of years to be good at killing cells,
- 4:32especially cancer cells. The field doesn't have really
- 4:36any other payloads out there approved right now besides
- 4:40those. So Hexagon has a totally
- 4:43different class other than those two approved ones that can
- 4:48address cancer cells that are not responding to those two
- 4:51approved payloads. So either when tumors become
- 4:54resistant to those two payloads, which always happens inevitably,
- 4:59or certain tumor types that just intrinsically don't respond
- 5:01well. So a Hexagon, we have a really
- 5:05exciting ADC payload derived from a natural product that's
- 5:08really good at killing cells. So we've put that initially on a
- 5:12couple of different antibodies, secret preclinical activity.
- 5:15So then coming back to JPM, long answer to your question, we're
- 5:19now interested in putting that payload on many other different
- 5:23antibodies for many different types of cancer.
- 5:25So internally at Hexagon, we're focused on breast cancer
- 5:28initially. There's many other antibodies
- 5:30and antigens directed at other types of tumors.
- 5:34The other companies have those antibodies and have expertise
- 5:37and we're partnering that payload on these different
- 5:41antibodies. A lot of discussions this week
- 5:43with companies, yeah. And successful, right?
- 5:45Yeah. Yeah.
- 5:48And sometimes it's hard to tell, you know, in the moment what
- 5:52sounds good. Yeah.
- 5:53What have you thought of the general feel of of JPM this
- 5:56year? Yeah, super optimistic.
- 5:58I mean, the weather was just amazing.
- 6:01Everybody's I think so, yeah. But everyone's just feeling
- 6:07really good. I feel like the kind of tide has
- 6:09turned in the last year. A lot of optimism, a lot of
- 6:13people talking deals on street corners and in the coffee shops.
- 6:17So it was really a good week, yeah.
- 6:19It's good. And you know what, like we just
- 6:22talked about how far it's kind of have gone and what they've
- 6:25been doing. Like what advice would you give
- 6:27to to other people who are looking to pound biotech,
- 6:30especially coming straight out of academia as well?
- 6:33Yeah, yeah, that's a good question.
- 6:36I think getting to know the, if you're talking investors,
- 6:40getting to know the individuals, both the firm's what kind of
- 6:44stage they are, early stage like preclinical or clinical or or
- 6:49what. And then even within a firm kind
- 6:51of getting to know the individuals and what they're
- 6:53interested in, are they more scientist or financial
- 6:57background? Everyone's an individual.
- 7:00People talk about investors like a group, but they're all very
- 7:04different and individualized. Yeah, yeah.
- 7:07Is it? Well, I'm so glad you've been
- 7:10successful and it's so, so much more to come, right.
- 7:13And it's been a pleasure to have you on.
- 7:16Yeah, thank. You thank you so much Maury and
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- 7:21thank you again. Thank you.
- 7:22Max.