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The Shrimp Incident with Tessa Tookes · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with our radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the almost Famous podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It is Ashley and it is Ben, and we're back.
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  Speaker 1: We're back, and today we are talking hometowns. We're actually
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  Speaker 1: gonna jump right into the recap today. It's UM top
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  Speaker 1: four somehow already. And I actually loved this episode, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: This was an episode I didn't find myself on my
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  Speaker 1: phone for you. I love this episode two. Actually, I
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  Speaker 1: think you'll know what I'm talking about. But I think
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  Speaker 1: this is probably the first time I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody on here you could question on it. But it's
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  Speaker 1: the first time in a year and a half to
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  Speaker 1: two years that I've said a tier watching The Badger.
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  Speaker 1: I think the last time was Michael a um which
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  Speaker 1: we obviously have an in depth episode coming up with
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  Speaker 1: him just in a couple of days here. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be really exciting. But I shed a tier during the episode, Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: which is always the sign of a good episode for me. Which, wait,
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  Speaker 1: let me guess what parts um. Okay, so Susie's not
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  Speaker 1: Susie's uh, Serene, I don't know, I don't could. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think you've eldn't. Oh was it between Rachel and
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  Speaker 1: her dad and her dad crying? No, it was when
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  Speaker 1: Gabby's dad showed up with the signs. I mean that
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  Speaker 1: was a little a little much, but like a little Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to be there, She wanted him to be there. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and there he is shows up and you just see
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  Speaker 1: her face like breakdown and want to hug him. And
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  Speaker 1: it just made me feel like, hey, how many other
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  Speaker 1: families can relate to that right now? Right? I mean
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  Speaker 1: like different circumstances, but how many families want to be
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  Speaker 1: together and see their loved ones and they haven't been
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  Speaker 1: able to and uh, and this is obviously one of
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  Speaker 1: those moments. I don't know, it got me. It was
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  Speaker 1: really cute. Obviously it was an illusion or a reference
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  Speaker 1: to um love actually with the que cards. But Ben
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  Speaker 1: the only thing that I know it was like cute
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  Speaker 1: scene stagey. But if he was able to show up
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  Speaker 1: with the car, couldn't we have gotten Clayton out and
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  Speaker 1: he could have just sat there with the window rolled
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  Speaker 1: down and he could have been like, hey, Clayton, I'm
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  Speaker 1: her dad. Let's have a brief talk right now. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, there's like hey, if you can show
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  Speaker 1: me a car. However, I do think, yeah, there's it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a little stagey because you're like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: he could have done this, he could have done that.
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  Speaker 1: But just her face, Yeah, like you know what it's
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  Speaker 1: like actually to be away from your family for so
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  Speaker 1: many months, to be missing them, to be excited to
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  Speaker 1: see him, then to find out that they can't be there,
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of this experience that you're so
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  Speaker 1: pumped to show them, like you know how disappointing like
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  Speaker 1: that would feel and be. And so just to see
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  Speaker 1: her face that he was there, like made know maybe
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  Speaker 1: just I related with it a little bit um because
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  Speaker 1: I just remember like coming up from the airport after
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  Speaker 1: my time on The Bachelor and seeing my parents standing
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  Speaker 1: at the end in the in like the baggage claim area,
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  Speaker 1: and just running out to him and give him a hug,
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  Speaker 1: Like that moment is just so special. So it got me,
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  Speaker 1: It got me good. I did love this episode. But
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  Speaker 1: let's start with Susie's hometown. Susie's hometown takes place in Virginia,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley take it Away. So Susie's hometown was the most
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  Speaker 1: forgettable for me, but I just but Susie herself like,
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  Speaker 1: isn't forgettable? Um trying to think about, like what the
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  Speaker 1: standout parts of her stand out parts of her date?
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  Speaker 1: She Oh, my god, Ben, like, how am I even drawing?
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  Speaker 1: I'm like drawing a blanket? What they did like four
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  Speaker 1: hours ago? Oh ju jitsu with the martial art that
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  Speaker 1: I cannot say the word jus yeah he he struggled
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  Speaker 1: at saying it to Um. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: cute hometown. I thought it showed something about her that's
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  Speaker 1: unique that she's into. She talked about, like why she
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  Speaker 1: loves it so much. I have obviously my my brother
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  Speaker 1: in law, he loves it. Um. During COVID when we
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  Speaker 1: were all quarantined together, he used to practice on me.
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  Speaker 1: He's a lot smaller than me, but somehow I'd find
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  Speaker 1: my legs up over my head with my arms dropping
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  Speaker 1: on my body, and I'd be, you know, done for
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean it wasn't like it was definitely
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  Speaker 1: I would say if we rank these the least memorable hometown.
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  Speaker 1: But I do feel like it was a special hometown
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  Speaker 1: because her family was also like very accepting period, like
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  Speaker 1: so accepting of Clayton and this whole thing like you
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  Speaker 1: don't see that every time, but they really made him
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  Speaker 1: feel welcome. So what I got from from her family
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, that was calm. They were accepting.
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  Speaker 1: It didn't seem like the producers like griled somewhat up
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  Speaker 1: to like create a storyline. It was just nice and
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was lovely. I hope the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the hometowns are this lovely, and honestly they were. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I liked this hometown because all the families were
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  Speaker 1: like excited for the girls, really happy for them, and
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  Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of doubt. And we always get
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  Speaker 1: that person that just wants to like hammer home that
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  Speaker 1: you better not hurt her, you on her, But everyone
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  Speaker 1: here was just chill and I liked it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just like then. The other thing was that her parents
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  Speaker 1: are just talking about how like she's like the kindest,
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  Speaker 1: sweetest person ever, and that's kind of what we hear
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  Speaker 1: from To cut that out, I was going to preview
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  Speaker 1: the interview, but we don't have to do that. So
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  Speaker 1: should we move on to surre It was Gabby's date
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  Speaker 1: next it is? I mean, I would just add if
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  Speaker 1: I get a second year to say that Susie's dad
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  Speaker 1: was really sweet in this moment, like, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: been through a lot, and he he kind of said
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  Speaker 1: something that really stood up to me. He goes, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how somebody hasn't uh like snatched her up yet,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know what's happened. And I just thought,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a father. I'm definitely not a
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  Speaker 1: father of a daughter. I would just say that that
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  Speaker 1: comment probably took a lot for him to say, but
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  Speaker 1: it also shows just how much he loves Susie and
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  Speaker 1: cares for Susie that he would like look at some
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  Speaker 1: random dude that just showed up to his house and
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  Speaker 1: be like, you're lucky, dude, because I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: somebody hasn't you know, found my daughter yet. But she's incredible. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I was impressed with Susie after her hometown date. I
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  Speaker 1: was impressed with her more than I've already been. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree, Uh, let's talk about Gabby's hometown. She goes,
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  Speaker 1: like hiking with him, Gabby is she's interesting. He says
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  Speaker 1: that she's like the funniest girl he's ever met. What
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  Speaker 1: we see of her isn't like super funny. But then
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  Speaker 1: we see the blooper at the end, and I'm like, okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: now I get it. I that's just another example of
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  Speaker 1: me wishing that they kept more moments and like that
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  Speaker 1: in the main show than putting it in the credit bay.
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  Speaker 1: It would just it would make us understand connections more,
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  Speaker 1: I think. But I loved Gabby's hometown mainly because the
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  Speaker 1: grandfather was hilarious, and of course we have the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the moment that you talked about, and it just they
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  Speaker 1: seemed like a fun family to want to like be
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  Speaker 1: married into. It was a great hometown. In fact, they
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  Speaker 1: hiked right by my house. I was watching it, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously wasn't home when they were filming this, but I
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  Speaker 1: was watching. I texted one of the producer. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: did they hike at because that looks like the hike
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  Speaker 1: that like Jessica and I take from our house. And
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  Speaker 1: sure enough, I mean it's right like where they were
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  Speaker 1: hiking is literally in our neighborhood. It's so weird, weird,
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  Speaker 1: it's so wide. I recognized the rock. I mean, great hometown.
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  Speaker 1: I should have Well, I know I should have. I
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  Speaker 1: would have known. Um, But you know, Gabby is one
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  Speaker 1: of those people who have grown on me. She's had
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  Speaker 1: moments during this show, right, you know, she had moments
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  Speaker 1: and we were talking about when you were out on
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  Speaker 1: uh some maternity leave, was you know, she had a
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  Speaker 1: date with Clayton where she's like, dude, I'm crazy, Like
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  Speaker 1: I want to let you know I am absolutely bothered.
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  Speaker 1: I am crazy. She got reforce it and at first
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  Speaker 1: when she first said it, the first I was like, WHOA,
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  Speaker 1: what's following this? And then when she kept joking about it,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this girl is just super endearing
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  Speaker 1: and lovable. She's just like all of us, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she's great. So um. I loved her grandfather. I wish
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  Speaker 1: you would have seen more of him. My only critique
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  Speaker 1: is that he had like a couple of good, like
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  Speaker 1: one liners in there, and he was really funny. I
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  Speaker 1: wish you would have been like the star of the show.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was even with the small amount of
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  Speaker 1: time he was on. But we missed it, Like we
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  Speaker 1: should have seen a lot more for that guy. I
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  Speaker 1: could have had the entire episode probably with him. He
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  Speaker 1: had a great sense of humor. And then he talked
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  Speaker 1: about his wife and how she, you know, recently passed
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  Speaker 1: away and him wearing the wedding ring. Still, that was
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  Speaker 1: a really sweet moment. It was the perfect combination of
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  Speaker 1: humor and heartfelt. Anything else to say more about Gabby's
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  Speaker 1: I would just say once again, Um, it's another family
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  Speaker 1: that's fully supportive of this experience and fully supportive of
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  Speaker 1: clay And so he's getting off easy is one thing
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  Speaker 1: I'll say, which is deserved, because he's not getting off
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  Speaker 1: easy when it comes to the general public right now.
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  Speaker 1: He's getting off easy in the hometowns. And another family
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  Speaker 1: supportive of this experience. And I think it's an important
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  Speaker 1: note because unlike some seasons where we have one family
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  Speaker 1: totally against it or one sibling really against it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Clayton right now has the full report of the first
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  Speaker 1: two women on their hometowns. So speaking of siblings Serene.
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  Speaker 1: On Serene's hometown, the standout moment was her relationship I
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  Speaker 1: guess and her sit down with her brother. I liked
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  Speaker 1: this guy. He was protective, but not in an obnoxious way. No,
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  Speaker 1: not like hey, let me get my television moment kind
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  Speaker 1: of way that we watched some seasons where they're just
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  Speaker 1: like over the top awkward, like hey, you never talked
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  Speaker 1: to one of her people that she's dated like this. No,
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  Speaker 1: he was good, Like he questioned it, he said in
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  Speaker 1: on it, but he wasn't mean about it. He just
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  Speaker 1: was very straightforward to that. And he talked about how
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  Speaker 1: he's never seen her really get this vulnerable and he's
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  Speaker 1: and she's done it in a way that it's only
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  Speaker 1: been like six weeks and it's been through a process
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  Speaker 1: like that, which is kind of surprising to him. But
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  Speaker 1: he's like happy that she's gotten there. Yeah, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I mean obviously a little foreshadowing there where you know,
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't want her to be hurt. But as we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about so many times, I know this is tough,
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  Speaker 1: but I believe, you know that people do learn a
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  Speaker 1: lot from being on this experience, and I think that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just getting the opportunity to open up again
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  Speaker 1: and feeling something again is positive for a human. And
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  Speaker 1: so we see her, you know, very much open up
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  Speaker 1: to Clayton very much telling how she feels. Um. Can
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  Speaker 1: you say, like he's a good looking dude and she's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely gorgeous. That family's got along. Oh my gosh, I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking the same thing. I was like, that is
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  Speaker 1: a handsome man. He sounds like Obama too, like Southern Obama.
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  Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Oh, he's just strong and confident.
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  Speaker 1: His voice is one of the leader. Um. Yeah, i'd
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  Speaker 1: be intimidated to talk to him, like, dude, you're too
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  Speaker 1: good looking and you're way too smart, like for me
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  Speaker 1: to be sitting down here. You're gonna read through all
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  Speaker 1: of this, and I'm about to send your sister home
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  Speaker 1: in about two days. And I think you can tell
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  Speaker 1: at this point, so like I just got to get
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  Speaker 1: out of this house. Well, yeah, it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: telling when he said do you love my sister? And
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  Speaker 1: he was like, well, I haven't said that to anyone yet,
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  Speaker 1: And it just felt like he was like, oh god, no,
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  Speaker 1: I definitely am least there with your sister, or at
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  Speaker 1: least like that was my interpretation because I just felt
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  Speaker 1: like that connection was a little bit lesser then. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And another thing is we've talked throughout the episode. They've
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  Speaker 1: talked about blessings, like I received blessings, but I think
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  Speaker 1: he was more like I've I've received acceptance from families
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  Speaker 1: because he never said, well, can I get down on
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  Speaker 1: one knee? Can I propose to your daughter? Did you
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  Speaker 1: ever say anything like that. I don't think so he
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  Speaker 1: never did, but I guarantee he did it. Okay, you
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  Speaker 1: have to you have to ask every time. I'm um,
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  Speaker 1: and I get it right like you want if just
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  Speaker 1: in case, like you want to be able to have
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  Speaker 1: that from the parents, just in case if that does happen. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you it was my least favorite part
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  Speaker 1: of the whole show was walking into those houses and
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  Speaker 1: I like right away and be like goshing it. I know,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, I'm going to have to have a
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  Speaker 1: really awkward moment with a father who loves their daughter
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  Speaker 1: or a brother who loves their sister or whatever. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have it. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: have it at all. Um. Okay, so we have one
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  Speaker 1: more date here actually in this hometown that we love
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  Speaker 1: so much. This episode it's Rachel's who you know? Um,
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people feel like, since the beginning has
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  Speaker 1: kind of been the front runner. Uh. Did you feel
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  Speaker 1: like this hometown date really solidified that for you? No,
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  Speaker 1: I left this episode probably more confused as to who
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  Speaker 1: it will be in the end. I knew I could
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  Speaker 1: eliminate Serene, and now that we're down to these three
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  Speaker 1: I actually have no direct and which is going I
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  Speaker 1: I again liked Rachel's because her she was so scared
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  Speaker 1: about her dad and how he was going to behave
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  Speaker 1: forwards Clinton. He's apparently never liked another guy that she's
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  Speaker 1: brought home. But he was like a he came off
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  Speaker 1: as tony soprano but a total mushy, you know, teddy
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  Speaker 1: bear Italian dad. In the end, he was far. I
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  Speaker 1: was gonna say the same thing. I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: know this is the stereotype. I know it is, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching the Sopranos right now because I've been flying
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  Speaker 1: so much, so I have it download. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: when I saw her dad sitting there like stone cold,
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  Speaker 1: and then his name was Tony and he's Italian, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I would be if Oh I'm so scared.
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  Speaker 1: He was good. He was. I do have one criticism
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  Speaker 1: of this state. Actually, Okay, a question for you and
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  Speaker 1: everybody else. Okay, they're in Florida. You know I'm in
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  Speaker 1: Florida right now as we speak. I love alligators so much.
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  Speaker 1: They're my favorite thing. You've bought me an alligator that
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  Speaker 1: still sits on my desk to this day. I love
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  Speaker 1: myself an alligator. So they're going down this like little
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  Speaker 1: river ride in a see through canoe. They see a spider,
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  Speaker 1: which isn't a big spider. Look closely, that spiders a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of babies on its back. Yeah, just as creepy.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a mom with all the babies on. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to be clear there, stop stop, stop, that's
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  Speaker 1: so gross. I thought that was like an insert shot.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, that's not actually a spider that they seen.
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  Speaker 1: They just threw that like that stock image in there. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a Florida spider. I mean, most spiders carry their
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  Speaker 1: babies on their back, So that's just like a thousand
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  Speaker 1: spideries on a on a mom's back. Um. But here's
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  Speaker 1: my question. So at some point they get off and
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  Speaker 1: they have this nice little picnic and they jump on
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  Speaker 1: the waters. They're in the same water they were when
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  Speaker 1: the alligators were swimming in it. Why are they not
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  Speaker 1: concerned that there's not an alligator sitting at the bottom
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  Speaker 1: that little swimming like, why is that not a thing?
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  Speaker 1: And that's a great question. I don't know. Did they
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  Speaker 1: put netting up now that netting is really going to
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  Speaker 1: stop a crocodile or an alligator No. I mean, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what, you're in Florida, in a running water, like
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  Speaker 1: in a river in the middle of the woods. I
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  Speaker 1: know how far back there are where this is is
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  Speaker 1: at necessarily, but there's no like I mean, I swimming
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  Speaker 1: alligator infested like lakes and that scares me. Let alone
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  Speaker 1: a river that I know they're full of. UM. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to I just want to ask that question
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  Speaker 1: to see if somebody if I okay, whatever, that's all right,
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  Speaker 1: never mind, all right. Well I was mad about it.
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  Speaker 1: It was hilarious how like her mom was just down
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  Speaker 1: like her mom, no reservations. It's exactly how my mom
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  Speaker 1: would have been. It's just like, yeah, there's a boy
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  Speaker 1: in the house, marry my daughter. So awesome, go for it.
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  Speaker 1: This is great. It is funny to see that dynamic
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  Speaker 1: during Rachel's day, where the dad was, if anything, the
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  Speaker 1: most kind of like um, out of any intimidating, yet
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  Speaker 1: the rest of that family was like, all for it,
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  Speaker 1: gung ho, this is awesome, Go get it, Rachel, go
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  Speaker 1: for it. Clay uh And I liked how the dad said, Clayton,
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  Speaker 1: if if she speaks highly of you, I'll just give
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  Speaker 1: you a little pat on the arm as you walk out.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was sweet, Like, yeah, there was nice. See,
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  Speaker 1: Tony's a cute guy. He's a cute guy. He's real sweet.
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  Speaker 1: He ain't that tough? Well, um, actually to find to
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  Speaker 1: close this episode, I did think with you, I was
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. I thought it was either gonna be
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  Speaker 1: Gabby or Serene to go home. I did not see
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  Speaker 1: Susie or Rachel leaving. But unfortunately, at the beginning of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: this whole season, my favorite Serene was sent home. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: think her feature is very bright, um, but she was
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: sent home from this season. Well, I am so actually
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: excited for Monday's episode in Iceland for these fantasy suites
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and we'll finally, hopefully get the answer as to why
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: he has to say I was intimate with both of you. Also,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: both of you interesting, not three of you, both of you,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: both of you. It's gonna be wild, It's gonna be great, Ashley.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back, we have
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a contestant from this season, Tessa joining us. She was eliminated.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: We three testa touches on and I bet she's going
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to be fantastic. Alright, guys, we have Tessa from Clayton season.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: She was eliminated week three, Tessa, thank you so much
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: for being here. And we gotta know Clayton's getting a
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Clayton can't catch a break. Okay, this guy, he's still
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: getting criticized for being like quote boring and like we
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: don't care about Louie ends up with because we're not
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: invested in this dude. Um, how was he in real life?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Like do you do you feel like he's getting a
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: bad rap and he really is like an awesome guy
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and this is all very unfortunate. Yeah, I mean, I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: feel like we didn't have the luxury of getting to
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: know him so as much as maybe other bachelors in
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: the past, so it was really up to him to
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like make a big splash, which is a lot of
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: pressure for one person. Um. I mean my interactions were
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: really positive. Um, I feel like there wasn't a vibe,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: but it's not his fault, and I think, um, yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like America has been kind of tough on
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: my man, Clayton. I feel like he's he's not you know,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: he doesn't deserve it. He's a good guy. They've been
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: tough on him. I'm sensitive to the boy worring criticism,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: because that was the biggest criticism I got. And uh,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: later on in life, I'm like, I'm glad they called
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: me boring. It just means that I did not cause
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: too many issues on the show. It means it was
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: very nice and politely. And then actually, your season was
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the first season I ever watched and I would have
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: considered you nice, kind, but certainly not boring. So I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: put Clayton in the same category exactly. Um, but when
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you so, when you're with them, so was it clear
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to you like that there wasn't a connection there? Were
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: you pretty shocked when you got sent home? Yeah? I
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: think I wanted there to be a connection so badly.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a connector by nature, so to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: not feel something instantly was definitely a rude awakening that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you can't connect with everyone. Um, I think you're super handsome,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: super kind, charming, but at the moment we sat down together,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I just didn't feel a spark. And as much as
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I wanted to feel, and I just I didn't. Well,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: we have it eliminated down to Gabby, Rachel, and Susie.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: So can you briefly describe each girl as you know them?
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: From firsthand experience. Yeah, totally so Gabby or I call
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: her Gabby cole Is. She's my girl. She and I
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: bonded night one, just absolutely not getting our way that night.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I feel like she and I were feeling kind of chaotic. Um,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: she's so funny. She's like a young Jennifer Coolidge. Like
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: her voice in and of itself, it's just enough, it's
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: so it's so good. Um yeah, I think she's She's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: definitely an interesting character. And I'm happy that we're we're
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: getting a bit more of her sincerity and like the
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: sweetness to her, because she is a complex person and
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I'm glad that we're kind of getting to know her
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: in that way too. Um, Susie is perfection. Like if
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I could describe a perfect person, it would be Susie.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like she's just graceful and considerate and kind
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: and interesting that she's lived in Japan wild. Um yeah,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I would want, like my my future daughter to be
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: just like Susie. Yeah there and through Um serene, gorgeous,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like walks in the room and you're just completely taken
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: by her beauty. Um. She's a tiny thing. She's like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: five two maybe, and she just takes up so much
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: space in the city presence um and also similarly very
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: sincere kind. She's a teacher just through and through, a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: really great person. And lastly, my girl Rachel flying paint planes,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: saving lives, doing all that stuff, just like such such
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: a force like Rachel for me is like a stabilizing
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: force in the house. That was her. I would always
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: look to her when I needed like a voice of
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: reason or support. Um, kind of like big Mama bear energy.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: So you left kind of early. Yeah, that was that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: was really great, Like you really you answered that question.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So thank you you love a little early on to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: maybe be able to feel something with certainty. But when
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you did leave, was there one of those four girls
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: sticking out in your head as like, oh, he's going
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: to end up with her? Yeah, So thank you for
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: bringing that up. I feel like I get a really
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: good road of people kind of instantly. UM. And I'd
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: say with Rachel, the way that she and I would
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: discuss Clayton was just so much different than any of
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the other women. Um. I had a lot of insecurities
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: in the first couple of days about not having time
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: with him, and she just the way that she talked
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: about her time with him, I could really sense that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: there's something special they're like her eyes would kind of
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: like soften and her body language would change, and um,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it was just a completely different experience. So that was
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: as early as you know, day one, day two, I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: felt like their connection was really special and really sincere.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Now you were there three weeks. Did you ever seen
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for the house? Did they ever ask you to use
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: your your vocals and your musical talents to entertain the house? Um? Okay,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: So I feel like any musician either loves being asked
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: to sing or hates it. I'm of the hating it camp.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I have to say my voice is very like Gratian
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: ariy and like a little a little more folky than
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I think people expect. So it's kind of awkward and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: like come and gonna like serenade you with like a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: bunch of you know, ocean sounds. Um. But yeah, they
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: asked a lot, and I politely or not so impolitely, declined, Yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: just somebody knows you were half of uh it's two's right,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that's how that's how you say it too, which is
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a folk band that you formed with your brother Christian.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So you're half of this band. That's why I asked
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that question, because I know you do have a lot
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of talent. Um, I would have asked you just seeing
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that that there was a lot going on in the house,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: typically in a little entertainment always felt good. Yeah, I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: did bring my I brought my guitar, so I could
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: have definitely done I think I was, honestly, in hindsight like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have brought it if I wasn't planning on
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: playing for anyone. But alright, Tessa, So in the house,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: was there anything that happened that did not go according
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to the way that it went down on TV or
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: is pretty much what we're seeing in the TV version
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: what happened? Yeah, I think the TV version, weirdly enough,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: is what happened, especially with like the earlier villains and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: drama like that all the shrimp stuff, unfortunately did happen. Um.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: So I feel like this season is super dramatic, but
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: weirdly it was as dramatic in the house. And I'm
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: still kind of processing, like was that real life? Is
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: that a fever dream? Like? And my real person is today,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: tomorrow is yesterday, next month, I don't know what is happening,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So um, yeah, weirdly all kind of took place the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: way that it's been portrayed so wild. I just remember
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Tessa sitting during The Bachelor. I've told actually as many times,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: but like you, like, drama would be going down and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'd be in my mind thinking, nobody's actually gonna believe
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: this happened the way that it's happening. But I have
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a front row seat at it, Like I get to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: watch all this happen with my own eyes. What were
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you thinking when all this was happening. Yeah, I was usually,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: for one, like sitting on the couch, just like eating
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: those gummy bears that are in the glass container. Oh
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: my gosh. I was literally talking to my sister the
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: other day about the fact that the Oreos and the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: pan Eminem's were in those jars and they we all
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: gained ten pounds just because those jars easily. Yeah, like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: just two hands at every moment, like going at it,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like staying out of the Drama's probably why I left here, Honestly,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I was just like I found my safe space my kitchen.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was chilling. Um. Yeah, but during those moments, it
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: was hard to believe that women were arguing over a crustacean.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: It really felt like we'd entered like a new realm
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of existence. Like Wow, it's like we're all real people,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: but like with jobs and families and lives outside of this.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But we're really talking about shrimp for days. So it
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: was pretty unexpected but entertaining, especially in my little kitchen
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: snack corner. It's safe space. You got to find a
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: safe spaces in the house. It's important. So this is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: one of the actually favorite games. We love to play
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: this game with people, Tessa, and you're beautiful, you're smart,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you're talented, you get to read on people, and so
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: as a result, would you ever go on Paradise after
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: your experience? Now in the back slip this is a game.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: I love this game, especially game that starts with compliments,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, thank you. Um yeah, So, I in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: my real life say that going on this show was
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: one of the best things I've ever done for myself.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. Before going on the show,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I was living for other people. I was waking up
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: each day and make decisions that I really had no
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: say in, from my job to certain relationships. Um, this
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: is the person that I did for me after spending
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: nearly four years in a really hectic relationship. UM, and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: it really opened up the doors for me to continue
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: kind of living for myself, like living intentionally, living mindfully.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And while it was a completely chaotic experience, it was
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: one that um instilled me with a lot more self confidence.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I was cry on my face off that first night, UM,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and those are tears that I needed to shed there.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: There were tears from being like an ugly duckling in
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: high school, like so sad and miserable, and UM, it
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: just took a really big leap to really start to
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: value myself until I know what I love about myself.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: So hell yeah, I would absolutely go in Paradise to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: to reconnect with U, the courageous and brave version of
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: myself that the Bachelor introduced me to. O. I love
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: that we really really feel that we we relate. So
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: last question is who's your batchelor? This is my favorite.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I love this question that you would want to see
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. Yeah, so, oh she's got one. I do have.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I do, and it's uncomfortable because our paths have kind
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of crops. But I definitely like I'm a little bit
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: shy when it comes to putting myself out there, so
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: this is a great way to do it publicly. Yeah,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: he's I consider him a friend of mine, but something
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: about part deep on Michelle season really struck me. He's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, b K forever. Um, Yeah, I feel like
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: there's a vibe. I also like love science, and we
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: haven't really nerded out on like psych in her science,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: but I feel like they could be a vibe. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: hereby stating Cash so cute, it's gonna happen. I see it,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and if it doesn't happen, Ashley, I'm going to be
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: so angry at this show. I'm gonna just flip that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: if we don't see them meet on the beach a
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: week one, because I want to watch the whole thing
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: for four weeks go down. Test said, thanks for joining us.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It's so great to have you. Thanks for coming on,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and we hope to talk to you again. We hope
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: to be celebrating your time on Bachelor and Paradise if
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it goes well or if it doesn't, we just hope
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you come back and talk to us at some point soon. Yeah. Absolutely,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. I've had a lot of
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: fun course o good bye bye and after this quick break,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: we're going to have bachelor headlines, So stay tuned. It's
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: time for bachelor headlines. Ben had to go to a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: business dinner, so I will be doing this on my
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: own first up, big, big, huge headline today. It was
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: released a couple hours before we recorded. Clayton Underwood is
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: engaged to Jordan's Brown, his boyfriend. Um. They have been
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: together for a few months now, I would say over
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: a little over half a year. And he and this
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: is what we got after my birthday, Jordan and I
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: went to Big Sir for a weekend getaway to decompress
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and relax in nature. I couldn't have pictured a more
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: beautiful place to celebrate an amazing milestone in my life
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and my relationships. In my relationship. It was his thirtieth birthday, UM,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and he said, I'm extremely happy. Has been the most
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: transformative year of my life, starting off with my best friend,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: teammate and now Beyonce is something I never thought was
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: going to be possible. Uh. They again just announced this
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: on social media today. Um, looks like the engagement happened
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: in in Big Sir. Uh. It sounds as if George
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: In was the one to propose, but I don't think
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: we have those details yet. All right, well, congratulations to Colton.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: We can't wait to see their relationship evolve over forever,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we hope. Uh so. Second headline, Amanda Stanton calls out
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor for the therapy dates that we've seen lately.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: She says, we've been watching The Bachelor of this season
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and I have to say something about the multiple therapy dates.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: They're rubbing me the wrong way. She said this on
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Insto story last week. She said, I understand where they're
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: trying to go with it, but forcing girls to quote
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: open up on a national TV and then literally judging
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: their sessions or sending them home and making them feel
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: bad if they don't open up enough is just not it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: There's a reason therapy is a private thing, and I
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: don't think this is a good representation, representation enough therapy
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: or helping end the stigma around mental health. Just had
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: to say, And you know, I didn't think. I never
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: thought of it this way, But after reading what Amanda said,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like I have to agree. So you guys,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: let us know what you think about the therapy dates.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: They've kind of like replaced the food dates because we're
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: getting so many food dates and now we're getting a
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: lot of therapy dates. So now we've heard from Zach
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Clark recently. He says that he is not dating after
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: his split with Tasia, saying that he struggles with trust issues.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: So apparently he says he's doing fine after his his split,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but he's quite ready to get back into the dating game.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: He hasn't started going on dates, but it's open to it,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: says a source to US Weekly. Um, he has he's
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: been thinking about, uh going on some dates, some apps,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: some being on some dating apps like Raya. Uh. They're
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: trying to help him move on his friends. UM, but
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: he's hesitant about getting into a new relationship, says this source,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: because now he's a public figure. He gets excited about
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: the idea of dating again, but has trust issues from
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: being in the spotlight. His biggest fear is getting close
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: to someone breaking up and then that girl sharing with
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the world about their relationship. We have seen it happen
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: to bachelor destance in the past. Apparently, UM, Zak wants
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to a relationship UM that is built on trust and
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: through all the ups and downs of you know, well,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: honestly Zach's life, he's managed to stay focused on his
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: career and maintained his sobriety. He's working on release recovery
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: and has some upcoming projects in the works. Next headline,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Clayton is racing himself for Bachelor backlash as the Fantasy
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Suite episode approaches so again, a source close to production
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: tells E News that Clayton is really concerned about how
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: fans are going to react to his season ending. We
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: we We had a headline last week in which Clayton
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: was talking about how he because of the backlash, sometimes
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: he wonders whether or not he should have even done
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the show. And then I said, you know, is that
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: something that somebody who end it ended happily for would
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: actually say? But we we know that Clayton has experienced backlash.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: We know that he is been sad, you know, upset
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: about it, Like he feels frustrated that people still feel
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: like they're not resonating with him when he's being his
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: best self. So okay, let's go back to the quote.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: So Clayton is really struggling with the cism that he
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: has taken for the decisions that he's made on the show.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, the villain, the villain component probably. He
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: probably got a lot of flak for that, you know,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: with Elizabeth. He Elizabeth and Schney. He did apologize publicly
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: for the way that he handled that situation. Um, but
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: it seems like this week he knows it could get
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: worse for him as the fantasy suite has come into play. Uh.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Clayton does indeed fall in love with multiple women, the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: source shares, and that is really obvious based on the
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: scenes for the next episode that we saw, And they
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: continue to say that many hearts are broken in ways
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that we really have never seen before on the show.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: So that's interesting. Think back on Michelle's finale, I mean, wow,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: that was a heartbreaker. There's been so many heartbreaks. How
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: is this going to be any different? We'll see, um,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But Clayton is so concerned with how things will play
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: out that he even reached out to former Bachelor's Matt
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: James and Nick Vall for their support and advice. Did
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: he didn't reach out to Ben? Everybody reaches out to
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Ben for advice? Um? Well, we will see how it unfolds,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: hopefully on Monday, because I am getting impatient. I must
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: know what this teaser is all about. And last headline
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it's pretty simple. Bachelor lum Hannah and Sluice vacations with
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Los Angeles rams Jake Funk after the Super Bowl. Basically,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: she just took a whole bunch of cute, romantic pictures
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of the two of them during their time in Cabbo St. Lucas, Mexico.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: He's twenty four, she's and it was a nice little
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  Speaker 1: postseason getaway for the two of them. She captioned her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram post, next stop lovers each So I'm really happy
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  Speaker 1: for the two of them. Alright, guys, Well that is
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  Speaker 1: it for headlines this week. Can't wait to see what
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  Speaker 1: happens on Monday's episode. Seriously, who is he intimate with? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Is he doing three or two? Let us know all
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts where you think this season is headed? At
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  Speaker 1: do this sign off myself until next time I've been Ashley. Bye.
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