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O's blow the lead in Anaheim and have a losing road trip · Birdland Territory

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  Speaker 1: That was frustrating, capital f other bedwords. Birdland is saying
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  Speaker 1: tonight as the Oils let it get away. They had
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  Speaker 1: a three run lead at Anaheim and a winning road
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  Speaker 1: trip at hand, and they could not close the deal.
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  Speaker 1: They lose today seven to six the Los Angeles Angels.
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  Speaker 1: So they come home with the off day Thursday, thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight and forty four.
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  Speaker 2: They're back to six under.
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  Speaker 1: Every time this team starts digging themselves out of a hole,
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  Speaker 1: they never finish it. And now we're past a halfway point,
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  Speaker 1: which you know that happened in Anaheim, and now you
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  Speaker 1: know games are you know there's less than eighty one
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  Speaker 1: to play. It's what I'm trying to say here after
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  Speaker 1: a frustrating day of orio baseball, guys, Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: the decision to take Trey Gibson out that frustrated me.
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him through a great fourth inning throw ninety
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  Speaker 1: seven plus twice strikeout to batters sixty six pitches. The
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  Speaker 1: argument that the Beat media was saying on Twitter they
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  Speaker 1: needed to pitch some guys bullpen fully rested off day
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow makes sense to me. What doesn't make sense is
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  Speaker 1: this kid was dealing after he gave up a first
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  Speaker 1: inning homer, and maybe you know if you didn't wanthim
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  Speaker 1: to face the third time of the order. He's good
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  Speaker 1: enough to face the Yankees, he's good enough to face
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers. He should have been, in my opinion, good
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  Speaker 1: enough to face the Angels up three after four innings today,
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  Speaker 1: but he didn't get the chance.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's frustrating. I mean, there's there's no other way
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  Speaker 3: to describe that. Friday night hurt. Today hurt even worse.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it was you felt like the game
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  Speaker 3: was in hand there, they were scoring some runs, and
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  Speaker 3: then the offense just kind of went silent, and I think,
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  Speaker 3: on top of taking Trey out and kind of maybe
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  Speaker 3: a questionable decision to trying to get fifteen outs out
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  Speaker 3: of your bullpen that needed to work, it's just not
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  Speaker 3: adding on. And I feel like that's been kind of
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  Speaker 3: a running theme, is is they get leads and they're
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  Speaker 3: just not able to add on and make it more
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  Speaker 3: comfortable of a game where maybe that decision wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: come into play. But it's to me, it's just kind
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  Speaker 3: of after watching that fourth inning that might have been
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  Speaker 3: his best inning all year, and to take him out
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  Speaker 3: after that I don't know. I know the bullpen needs work.
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  Speaker 3: It's I think the bullpen back in April and May,
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  Speaker 3: when they were rolling good. I think it's maybe a
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  Speaker 3: different discussion. But as of late, it hasn't been as
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  Speaker 3: rock solid as it was earlier in the season.
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  Speaker 4: And it's it's tough to get fifteen outs.
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  Speaker 3: It's tough to ask five guys to go out there
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  Speaker 3: and get three outs.
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  Speaker 4: To finish that game. I know being part of bullpends.
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  Speaker 3: No matter how good a bullpen I've been a part of,
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  Speaker 3: you just know it takes one kind of missed link
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  Speaker 3: in the cog there and a loss goes away. And
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  Speaker 3: that's I mean, a win goes away. And that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of what happened today. It's just a very very frustrating
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  Speaker 3: loss to watch.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it really was. And it's just one step four,
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  Speaker 5: one step back. I feel like I'm saying that every
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  Speaker 5: single episode. You know, you get that great series win
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  Speaker 5: against the Dodgers, you win Monday, Kyle Bradish was dominant
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  Speaker 5: in that game. You just needed one of these last
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  Speaker 5: two to have a winning road trip. And last night,
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  Speaker 5: Ryan Johnson, a guy that's been getting shelled and he
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  Speaker 5: no hit the Orioles. You know, through the first five
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  Speaker 5: innings or whatever of that ballgame, went six shutout innings,
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  Speaker 5: just faced two batters over the minimum. And then today,
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  Speaker 5: you know, Trey Gibson, we were talking about live, you know,
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  Speaker 5: doing the show on the fan today, and I had
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  Speaker 5: a feeling that there was definitely going to be a
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  Speaker 5: quick hook for Gibson if he did get in trouble.
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  Speaker 5: But kind of like what you guys were saying, that
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  Speaker 5: was a really strong inning, and Craig Albern has acknowledged
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  Speaker 5: as much in his postgame press or that he got
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  Speaker 5: better as the game went on. You know, had scuffled
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  Speaker 5: a little bit the first inning. I think he entered
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  Speaker 5: that game knowing that it was kind of a pseudo
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  Speaker 5: bullpen game because they really haven't pitched much over the
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  Speaker 5: past couple of days. Albert Suarez went three inning yesterday,
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  Speaker 5: Rico Garcia only threw one inning. But Brad, I think
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  Speaker 5: you bring up a good point, like just look at
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  Speaker 5: some of the guys that have pitched Wolfram Wells, they
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  Speaker 5: were fantastic and heck, even Helsley, I'll throw him in there.
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  Speaker 5: But Rico Garcia, he's hitting a bit of a wall
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  Speaker 5: here and that was inevitable, like he was on this
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  Speaker 5: magic carpet ride for so long that he was going
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  Speaker 5: to face some adversity. You ner Cano, he didn't have
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  Speaker 5: his command. He walked a couple guys, Keegan Aiken. I
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  Speaker 5: was probably the best we've seen him in a while.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, then it gets back to the defensive blunders,
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  Speaker 5: which has been a season long theme, and it kind
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  Speaker 5: of settled a bit there for a while. But boy
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  Speaker 5: is rough and shoddy defense really reard tot ugly head
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  Speaker 5: in the past week or two.
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  Speaker 1: Yikes, let's talk about the ending one out to get
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  Speaker 1: ground ball. Why the first Peter Linzo makes one move
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  Speaker 1: to second, and that changed everything because now he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get to the fir Aken is trying to get there,
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  Speaker 1: not knowing his Pete's going to get there, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a cluster and the ball was not caught.
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  Speaker 2: If, as Palmer said, if.
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  Speaker 1: He catches it, it would have been a really difficult play.
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  Speaker 1: But the game's over didn't catch it. So now the
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  Speaker 1: runner advanced the third Sammy tries to tag him, he
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  Speaker 1: went wide. I didn't hear anybody mention out a base line,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess that didn't factor here. He went wide
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  Speaker 1: to that tag and he could have thrown the first
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  Speaker 1: maybe gets and maybe he does. And all these are
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  Speaker 1: split second, game on the line decisions that all didn't
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  Speaker 1: work out today, at least two of them didn't at
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  Speaker 1: the end for the Orioles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I mean that ground ball the second base.
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  Speaker 4: That game has to be over like that is as.
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  Speaker 3: Routine the big league play as it comes. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: play with Pete. He's been phenomenal at first base this year.
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  Speaker 3: Let me say that first.
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  Speaker 4: He's been unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's been way better than anybody of the
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  Speaker 3: Orioles expected this season. To me when I played with
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  Speaker 3: him in New York, that was kind of a tendancy
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  Speaker 3: he had was to take a step or two towards
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  Speaker 3: second base. You knew that as a pitcher, so I
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  Speaker 3: think Keegan aken did get there in time. But when
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  Speaker 3: you see Pee coming at you, that's a big man
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  Speaker 3: coming at your first base, and I think that was
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  Speaker 3: a hesitancy to keep going because it did look like
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  Speaker 3: he might get there. And it's just that it I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's just that game has to be over there. It's
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  Speaker 3: just frustrating, and it's, uh, you know, I kind of
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  Speaker 3: going back to Steve what you said about, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the beat writers calling for you know, guys that get
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  Speaker 3: in the game.
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  Speaker 4: To me, it's not spring training. These games count, they matter.
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  Speaker 4: You need work.
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  Speaker 3: There's a bullpen out there, you can throw one hundred
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  Speaker 3: pitches if you need work after the game. And that's
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  Speaker 3: what bothers me about the way baseball is kind of
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  Speaker 3: being played at this point, is that it's almost like
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  Speaker 3: it's a pseudo between Triple A and the major leagues,
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  Speaker 3: and it's we got to get these guys in because
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  Speaker 3: they need work, because we have today tomorrow. He's had
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  Speaker 3: four days off. There's always time after the game to
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  Speaker 3: do these things. And it's just when you see the
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  Speaker 3: pitcher go out there in the fourth inning and dominate
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  Speaker 3: like he did, there's no reason to have to throw
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  Speaker 3: five guys in the game today to get the win.
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  Speaker 3: And I know I'm kind of off topic, but it
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  Speaker 3: just kind of bothers me when I hear people talking about, like, well,
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  Speaker 3: the bullpen needs work.
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  Speaker 4: They've had a lot of rest.
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  Speaker 3: It's just the game, Like when the game starts, that
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  Speaker 3: stuff goes out the window and you have to get
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  Speaker 3: the win. And to me, it was just a tough
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  Speaker 3: strategy to go about that game today, to try to
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  Speaker 3: get that win in to salvage this road trip, which
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  Speaker 3: was so promising on Monday. Like you said, Kyle Brad
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  Speaker 3: is dominated. And unfortunately though the plays at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the game too, is kind of added to the
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  Speaker 3: frustration because we've seen those types of play all year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't buy that argument either.
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  Speaker 1: You asked the bullpen today to cover fifteen outs wound
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  Speaker 1: up being more because we went to the ten.
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  Speaker 2: They needed fifteen outs of work. They couldn't get it
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  Speaker 2: done with seven.
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  Speaker 1: Or eight or nine, because each time you turn to
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  Speaker 1: a new guy, he may not have it. And so
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  Speaker 1: I just today was if this was about analytics or
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  Speaker 1: third time through or all these decisions that are prevalent
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  Speaker 1: in baseball today, sometimes you got to look at your
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  Speaker 1: picture and what is he doing? And like you mentioned Tim,
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  Speaker 1: they needed work. If he had given up runs in
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  Speaker 1: the fourth, maybe I'm more open to what happened. But
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  Speaker 1: he gave up runs in the first, and then he
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  Speaker 1: pitched three scoreless, and then he's throwing ninety seven and
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  Speaker 1: then he's striking guys out and then he's.
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  Speaker 2: Out of the game.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't add up this If this was analytics, then
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  Speaker 1: analytics today when oh And won for the Orioles. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just, you know, why not just leave the kid
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  Speaker 1: in the game who's throwing ninety seven and striking guys out.
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  Speaker 1: He's your best pitching prospect. You started him at Yankee Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: He was good enough to do that. You started him
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  Speaker 1: in Dodgers Stadium, he was good enough to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Why is he not good enough at sixty six pitches
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  Speaker 1: to take the mound in the fifth against the last
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  Speaker 1: place Angels leading by three runs. That's as calmly as
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  Speaker 1: I can say that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and Brad I think makes a great point, Like, guys,
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  Speaker 5: we're past the halfway point at this point, and the
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  Speaker 5: Orioles heading into today, they're five games below five hundred.
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  Speaker 5: Despite that, you're still two games out of the Wild Cards,
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  Speaker 5: so you have to do everything in your power to
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  Speaker 5: win games, and style points are out the window, you know,
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  Speaker 5: getting guys in to get this type of work, because
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  Speaker 5: each of these guys that you throw in bullpen wise,
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  Speaker 5: which what they threw seven guys. I believe the variance
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  Speaker 5: continues to add up because I think Brad or Steve,
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  Speaker 5: one of you guys said it not everyone's gonna have
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  Speaker 5: it today, and they didn't. You know, we went through it.
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  Speaker 5: Cano wasn't sharp. Kitchridge, it's been a little rough for him.
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  Speaker 5: Rico Garcia it's been rough for him of late. Like
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  Speaker 5: each one that you add, you're adding more of a
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  Speaker 5: probability going to the analytics of that guy's not gonna
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  Speaker 5: have it, you know. So if you can prolong that
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  Speaker 5: and have Trey Gibson get an extra out two, three, four,
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  Speaker 5: then that brings that probability down. You're gonna have to
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  Speaker 5: use one or two less bullpen arms.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And the other thing to consider here is at
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  Speaker 1: the back end of that, you had Helsley, who threw
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  Speaker 1: a really good inning, but he's coming off an arm issue.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't want to pitch him a second inning, so
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  Speaker 1: you got to remember that, I don't have him for
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  Speaker 1: thirty pitches today. I got him for fifteen, which is
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  Speaker 1: when he threw sixteen I think, and he was really good,
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  Speaker 1: but because they use so many guys to get to him,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't really have a late inning back up there.
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  Speaker 2: And then Aiken did enough to win it, and they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Win it, so frustration in Birdland today Man times ten.
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  Speaker 1: It just was is a tough day for fans to
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  Speaker 1: team everyone connected with the Orioles to see that one
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  Speaker 1: get away and not have a winning road trip. We
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  Speaker 1: got more to do. We talk about some happier things here.
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  Speaker 1: Stay with us on at Birdland Territory.
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  Speaker 2: Time out for.
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  Speaker 1: Daily Dingers, presented by a fan dol And you know,
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  Speaker 1: guy had to home run. Say this young man, Samuel Basio,
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  Speaker 1: turns out he's pretty good at twenty one today, hit
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  Speaker 1: that first ball four thirty four. Guy hadn't given up
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  Speaker 1: a homeer on a split all year, and he hits
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  Speaker 1: one halfway to La impressive man. So he's going to
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  Speaker 1: be a good pick for Daily Bingers and fans of that,
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  Speaker 1: I think anytime, because he can hit one out of
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  Speaker 1: any ballpark against any pitcher. So that was a special
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  Speaker 1: game for him today. It's too bad at then resulting
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  Speaker 1: the win, but it's got to do a lot for
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  Speaker 1: his confidence.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I mean those were two amazing swings that
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  Speaker 4: he took.
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  Speaker 3: It it's clear, I think the sky reporters out if
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  Speaker 3: you leave anything out over the plate, it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: if you have zerox or base hits given up on
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  Speaker 3: that pitch. Samy can hit it a long way, and
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  Speaker 3: I think it's kind of it's out there now that
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  Speaker 3: if you make a mistake out over the plate, he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna make you pay in a big way. And I
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  Speaker 3: mean that first ball was absolutely hammered. It was absolutely
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  Speaker 3: no doubter. And then the next one hit a line
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  Speaker 3: drive that, as Jim Palmer said, it was going to
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  Speaker 3: go through the wall out there in right field. So God,
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  Speaker 3: I think he was a big factor in all five
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  Speaker 3: of those runs. I think it was all five RBIs
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  Speaker 3: or if not five, it was four, and just got
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  Speaker 3: him on the board there early, and it was looking
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  Speaker 3: like I thought he was gonna have a three or
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  Speaker 3: four home run game the way he was swinging the bat,
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  Speaker 3: and he took a couple of really good swings his
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  Speaker 3: third at that two that I feel like he just
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  Speaker 3: missed a couple of those pitches. But it just goes
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  Speaker 3: to show that the talent this kid has. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's still twenty one years old and he's doing everything.
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  Speaker 3: He caught a great game. He took a bunch of
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  Speaker 3: balls off his mask and off the chest protector, stayed
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  Speaker 3: out there and you know, that last play. It was
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  Speaker 3: one of those last second decision plays and you can't
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  Speaker 3: second guess when he goes out there to make that play.
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  Speaker 4: He thought his best shot was to get.
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  Speaker 3: The runner, and unfortunately he was too far out of
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  Speaker 3: range to tag him there. But he's been doing a
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  Speaker 3: phenomenal job on both sides of the plate and really
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  Speaker 3: showing some of his toughness through He had.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of foul balls off of himself that I.
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  Speaker 3: Stayed in the game and there's really nowhere else to go.
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  Speaker 3: He was standing in there the whole.
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  Speaker 5: Nine well, he had the one moment where the ball
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  Speaker 5: went off his head and he's waving like, don't come
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  Speaker 5: out here. No, I'm good, I'm good. I'm staying in
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  Speaker 5: this ball game and talking defensively Brad Trevor Rodgers over
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  Speaker 5: the weekend Saturday, after the game, he was really singing
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  Speaker 5: Samuel Besillo's praises after he just threw seven shutout innings
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  Speaker 5: one hit ball against the Dodgers, and he credited the
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  Speaker 5: twenty one year old. But he's doing a ton of
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  Speaker 5: damage to fastballs. He's doing a ton of damage to
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  Speaker 5: off speed pitches, and I do want to make mention
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  Speaker 5: that Steve did hit his daily dinger last time out
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  Speaker 5: with Taylor Wards, so I say, hey, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: trying to start the street.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Fasio hits one, I'm not gonna take any credit
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  Speaker 1: because he's gonna hit a lot of and so you know,
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  Speaker 1: just keep predicting every night you're gonna run into it.
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  Speaker 1: That's like he's going to run into it. But really
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  Speaker 1: impressed with this kid's handling the challenges of the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks. And it seems like the manager's working hard
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  Speaker 1: to repair if that's the word anything that was needed here.
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  Speaker 1: Yet whenever you see him in the dugout, they're laughing,
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  Speaker 1: they're talking all the time. And I said Tim on
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  Speaker 1: the show, I think if the kid struggles for the
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  Speaker 1: next three weeks, we're all going to point back to that.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think he's going to and I don't
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  Speaker 1: think he is. So he's not tearing it up like
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  Speaker 1: he was until today. But he's going to be fine.
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  Speaker 1: And what a nice player to have under contract for
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  Speaker 1: about eight more years.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, having him at twenty one, get him all
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  Speaker 3: the way through is twenty nine and thirty season. That's
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  Speaker 3: the hope. I mean, that's kind of when you have
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  Speaker 3: the Orioles and you don't have the biggest budget. These
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  Speaker 3: are the guys you got to hit on. And it
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  Speaker 3: just seems like he's going to be that kind of
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  Speaker 3: player for it in the mainstay for a while now,
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  Speaker 3: and he's showing it at a young age.
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  Speaker 4: And we've even.
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  Speaker 3: Seen it just in the first three months, how much
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  Speaker 3: he's matureered on both sides of the ball. Everybody who's
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  Speaker 3: going to hit, and like Steve, you talked about the Orioles,
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  Speaker 3: were sure this kid could catch, and he's proven that.
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  Speaker 3: He's showing that he can handle his staff. He's getting
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  Speaker 3: praises from his pitcher, which is that's what you want
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  Speaker 3: to hear on the defensive side of things. And he's
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  Speaker 3: got an absolute cannon. So he's a big guy, big
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  Speaker 3: target behind the plate. He keeps all the balls in
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  Speaker 3: front of him and he throws base runners out. What
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  Speaker 3: else more could you ask for?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing?
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  Speaker 1: And he flashes that smile that lights up the room.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen that since I started interviewing when he was
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  Speaker 1: in a ball So thrilled to see Samuel Bissio had
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  Speaker 1: the game he had today. First of a few birdland,
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  Speaker 1: He's going to hit a few two humbre games over
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  Speaker 1: his oil career. Just happened to be number one. Happened today? Hey,
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  Speaker 2: So, guys, how do they bounce back this time?
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Is this bounced back number twenty or twenty five of
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: the year we've called for and they've had to do.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought they were gonna get rolled after
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: Friday night at Dodger Stadium. That was such a brutal,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: bitter loss. I thought, oh man, how they beat the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Dodgers after this? And then they did. They gotta do
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: it again. At least they got an off day every
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: group and they're coming home. But I'll tell you, we
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: have heard some blue birds this year at the yard
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: and if this team doesn't come out playing with fire
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: and passion from the get on Friday Night with their
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: neighbors from the Natch, if the Nats come into Baltimore
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: and make them look bad, there are going to be
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: some startup fans at Oriel Park.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: And it's you know, kind of referencing Mark Trumble the
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: other day when he was on our show. It's just
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: kind of it's go time there. I mean, it's it's
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: the middle of June. This is this is absolute go time.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: This is you have to put the best line up
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: out there every day that you think can win games,
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: because it's gonna get to end of July and you're
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: gonna be so far out of it it's not gonna matter.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: So it's just to me, it's just the sense of
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: urgency needs to be ticked up just a little bit.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Like you're saying, Steve, I think Friday, they just got
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: to come out on fire. Baseball is not that kind
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: of sport. But it's at a tricky stage here from
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: now to the All Star break where it's the season
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: like it's gonna be made or broke in these next
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: couple of weeks, and it's I know, we said this
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: a few times on the show. I'd say over the
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: last month, but I mean it's they push themselves into
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: the corner. There's nowhere to go except to fight their
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: way out of this and to show some emurgency and
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: show some fire and just go out there and just
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: play their best brand of baseball. Because if you go
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: into the All Star Break ten games under five hundred,
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: where's the season going to go? I mean we're gonna
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: be having episodes on here, who's gonna be getting traded,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: who's gonna be getting sent here and there? And that's
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: not what the fans want, that's not what we want,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: that's not what this team wants, nor that's what nobody deserves.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: So it's just kind of got to just put the
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: throttle to.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: The floor right now and just go out there and
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: just put your best foot out there every single night
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: and play the best bit brand of baseball you possibly can.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: And if we're just looking in this immediacy of these
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: next two series, where obviously heading into the year, everyone
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: thought that the Orioles would be contenders. Vegas thought Theos
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: would be contenders. And you look at a series against
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: the Nats, you look at a series against the White
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: Sox and you're thinking back in March, Hey, these are layups,
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: but they're not. You know, baseball has been crazy, and
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: the Nats have been an upstart team this year, basically
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: in this same stretch since May twenty second. The National
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: starting pitching has been the best in baseball. Their bullpen's
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: been an issue, and we saw that the other night
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: against the Phillies. But we know that that lineup can
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: mash and it's going to be fun to see this
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: Orioles starting lineup and the bullpen going against that team.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: But also the White Sox. Guys, a couple of years
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: ago they were the worst team in the history of baseball,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: and now they're leading to Al Central. So it's pretty
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: unbelievable what both of those clubs have done. And now
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: obviously Captain obvious calling that both of these series mean
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: a ton to the Orioles. He got to find ways
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: to stack series wins. Guys. They got to get the
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: four straight wins. They got to get the four straight wins.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: At some point they've they've won three straight games six times,
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: and then each.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Time that they've fallen, and I go back to last
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: night's game, guys, and these these games aren't playing on paper,
• 19:14
  Speaker 7: but you're you're thinking, Wow, Ryan Johnson, you have a
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: good matchup and Shane Bose he's been really rolling.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Then all right, we're gonna break through at this point.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: But the offense was silent. They have to find ways
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: to stack wins, stack series wins, and especially coming back
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: home to Camden Yards.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I want to get back to Trey Gibson for a second,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: because I'm an onabashed Trey Gibson Homer. I think fans
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: know that Steve loves his prospects, he loves his young players,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and I got to know this kid so well last
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: year on the farm, and I was so impressed by
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: him as a person and a pitcher that I felt
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: this might be one who actually has success at the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: big league level. I think we might be seeing the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: early sign of that. To me, it's a trite phrase
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to say, but I'll say it. I think he came
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: of age a little bit on this road trip, two
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: different tough situations. You know, he did some things we
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: haven't seen him do really to this point. We didn't
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: see him for ninety seven and today did it and
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: what turned out to be his last inning, we haven't
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: seen him unleashed the death ball with such quality as
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: he did in Dodger Stadium.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Here's my worry.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Just as he's coming into his own Dean Kramer is
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: about to come back and somebody has to go. If
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: you're the Orioles of three years ago, the rebuilding Orioles
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: might have said, we need to let a young kid
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: just pitch and grow. The Oriols who need to win
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: every night, might say we can't keep him here now.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: But then again, he's not a bad option to keep
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: here now. Someone mentioned to me today, six man, maybe
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they consider doing it for a few weeks or the
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: break or something to see how that would look and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: not take a kid who's getting better and send him back.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: Well, Steven, I think there's multiple layers to that. Where
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: Kevin Brown brought this up on the broadcast Monday when
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Bradish was pitching. Kyle Bradish this year has thrown more
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: innings than he's thrown the last two years combined, and
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: there was talks prior to the year. Kyle Bradish openly
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: acknowledged during spring training and innings restriction and what is
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: that number? How do they handle that? The All Star
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: breaks coming in a couple of weeks. That's always a
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: built in spot for teams in the past. I think
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: they're going to a six man. I am very confident
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: at some point they're going to a six man, in
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: part because of Kyle Bradish, but maybe in part Brad
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: because of Trey Gibson too.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just kind of it's almost an unfortunate
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: time right now to start looking at his innings, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you have to. It's just the nature of baseball today.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: But man, is he rolling Kyle Bradish. It's just it
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: would stink to get him out there once every six
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: days when we're trying to win games, because right now
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: it's I mean, I put him up there with most
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: pictures in the big leagues. His last two starts have
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: just been unbelievable. But yeah, I think a six man
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: makes sense. And honestly, I was thinking when you Steven,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you just said that that last inning that was a
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: reliever inning. To me, I mean, Trey, that was ninety
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: seven ninety eight, that was electric stuff and the bullpen
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: that could use a big arm. Right now, I know
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: he's never really done it, but it's I just feel
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: like you want him to learn at the big league.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Love and I think he's gone past that point of
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: going back down to Triple A to get work and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: continue to progress down there. There's a certain point where
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: certain pictures I think you just need to have them
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: in the big leagues, whether that's in the rotation or
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: in the bullpen. To me, Trey Gibson has proven himself
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: over these starts that he's had. It's there's something that
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: could be special there, and I just would hate to
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: lose that down on Triple A and kind of have
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: him bounce him back and forth and feel like you're
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: part of the team but not really on the team.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: And it's just kind of a weird spot to be
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: when you're in that sixth man and kind of on
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: the fringe of the roster thing. And I just think
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: he has a lot of confidence.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: He's shown some.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Big time I'm cahonis, there's no other way to say.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, doctor Stateium basically nobody out. He gets out
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: of that with no runs. And then today I think
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: he had another big time visit with Frenchy when he
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: came out and was kind of like, hey, you got
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: to kind of nut up right here, and he did
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: and went out and was got the next guys out
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and went one, two, three, and it's just there's something
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: there that I agree with you, Steve, that I think
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: that needs to be at the big league level in
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: some capacity.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Let's keep talking about a six man rotation because we've
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: got some thoughts on that.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: We'll do that in a moment here on Birdland Territory.
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  Speaker 1: I think you guys talked me into the six man there,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: or I like also what Brad just said. Trey Gibson
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: stays on the roster even if he's not getting the ball,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and he gets the ball on relief and we see
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: what he can do there.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: But the six man could work.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Keeps Trey there, limits Bradish, maybe a six man and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the off day he pitches once a week for a
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Then you push him on the back
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: end of the break. You just try to without taking
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: them out of the rotation or skipping them.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: You help this alone.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: And that might be the way they do it here,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: and maybe with the all star break in just a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: It's a let's look.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: At it and then we'll reevaluate over the break what
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: we're doing here.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that it makes sense. I wasn't thinking
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: about six man. I knew Dean was on rehab assignment
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: along with Kate Povid, so you knew something was going on,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: and I didn't put all this together, but it really
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: does kind of make sense if you, I mean, you
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: have to limit Bratish at some point. It's going to happen,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: whether it's now, whether it's September, there's going to be
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a limit somewhere. So if I think if Tray could
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: slide in there and kind of give, like you said, Steve,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: maybe once a week to Brash, maybe once every ten days,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: just to kind of limit that the inning's getting too
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: far up there, it seems like a viable option at
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: this point.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: It seems like, and this is not confirmed or anything,
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: I'm speculating, it seems seems like Dean and Kate Povich
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: will be back before the All Star break. Dean Kramer,
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: he just had his first rehab as Sigmon and it's
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: been a while since he's been out, but he's for
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: sixty six pitches in his first outing, so that that's
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: a decent load right there. So maybe two three more
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: starts and then he could be up with the Orioles.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Kate I think was in the mid forties if I remember.
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: And look, let's discredit Kate Povich either, because Kate Povich
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: at the beginning of the year, I know it was
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: probably only a handful of outings, but he was an
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: effective arm for them, and especially a left handed arm.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: And Chris Bassett he seems you know that that return
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: is not imminent. He hasn't even begin unthrowing yet. But look,
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: I hate speculating about roster spots because it's tough, but
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: I think Albert Suarez has been in a tough spot.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: Guys where he pitched what yesterday and he was great,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: He was awesome. Three innings, he had thirty pitches. He
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: was awesome. But that was this his first time he
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: pitched in ten days. And with how they've sort of
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: used him, he's kind of been the wear it guy, right,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: like when there's been blow up starts. The last time
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: he pitched was when Gibson struggled against the Padres. He
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: came in eight four innings, saved the bullpen. Like that's
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: been his spot, and I don't even know how fair
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: that is for him, you know, just pitching that infrequently. Look,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: he's on the Major League roster and that's what he wants.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: But I don't know. I think that there is certainly
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: a way to make a six man rotation work, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I am very convinced we will see it at some point.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I think we're making good arguments for it. We'll have
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: to see if the Orioles agree with our arguments here
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: when they tell us what they're going to do with
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: these guys and how they're going to try to get
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: them all in and get them off some rest too.
• 27:50
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  Speaker 2: All Right, So a couple of notes here.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: This would have been the first winning road trip of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the year if they got it. They didn't four and five.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: They had a couple five hundred road trips three and
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: three to Pittsburgh and the White Sox and then later
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to Boston and Toronto. So chance for winning road trip
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: didn't get it. Pitchers for the Oriols this weekend home
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: against the Nationals. Trevor Rodgers Friday, Brandon Young Saturday, Kyle
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: bradish On Sunday. That's a pretty good trio there to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: see if the O's can beat the Nationals. And once
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: again they got to get off the mat.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: No other way to put it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that team you said it before,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: it's Mel said at the end of the broadcast today.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: They're one of three teams who haven't had a winning
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: streak of more than four games, and it's just hard
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to make up ground and the standings when you can't
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: you can't stream together at least four games in a season,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: it just means you have to win so many series
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: in a row, you have to have so many stretches
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: of going ten and five to just get back to
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: five hundred at this point, they'd have to go twelve
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: and six or something like that. It's just if you
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: can't stream together those which I feel like it just
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: it's not making sense because I feel like they've had
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: the starting pitching, they've had the offense. It's just obviously
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: not going together at the same time. And it's just
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: it's been frustrated I don't know. It's just been a
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: weird season at this point. I feel like we've talked
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: about it at nauseum that it's just kind of what
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: you think is going to happen doesn't happen. And I
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: would just love to see this roster, with the amount
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: of talent and the starting pitching going right now, to
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: just put a street together.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: Well, it's crazy, Steve, I didn't realize they haven't had
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: a winning road trip yet. I guess it is believable
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: when you look at the record, but you think of
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: these last two road trips. So today and brought it
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: up earlier, you win one of these last two games
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: against the Angels, you finished with a five and four
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: road trip. Look at their last road trip, guys, it
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: was Boston and Toronto and it was six games. They
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: started three and one. You just had to win one
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: of those final two games. And remember who were on
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: the bump. It was Bradish and then it was Shane
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Bose and that was the Ernie Clement situation running outside
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: the base paths. So you needed to win one of
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: those two games to have a winning record, and you
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: lost both of them. It's very similar. It's very similar
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: with this team, and at some point you're gonna have
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: to go on a run to get to October. That
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: that's the only way. Like you're gonna have to win
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: four games at the point. At some point you're gonna
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: have to win some of these road trips. At some
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: point you have to find a way. It's go time,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: like Trumpo's going back the Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Yep, most definitely. And you know you got the All
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Star break. You have to trade deadline things are coming fast.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Decisions you're gonna have to be made. They don't have
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: eighty games. They got about twenty games to figure out
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  Speaker 1: if this season's gonna go where they want to go,
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  Speaker 1: or at least have a chance thanks to and I'll
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: give this final stat last ten games, oh starters ther
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  Speaker 1: two nine seven. They're really pitching well lately, and so
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  Speaker 1: they don't need six runs every night. But they have
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  Speaker 1: to put some things together. And obviously at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the road trip today they did not three errors
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  Speaker 1: seven walks as they lose the final game to the
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  Speaker 1: Angels and head home after Thursday's off day, ending in
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  Speaker 1: on a sour note. But what can we do, you guys?
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  Speaker 1: We can only talk about what we see happen on
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  Speaker 1: the field. Hopefully it'll be a little more show with
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  Speaker 1: more successful things to talk about when we meet you
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: next time.
• 31:37
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