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Rolling John | Lost Iceland, EU Fascism, Northern Lights Dimmed? and Icelandic UFO Sightings · My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a shame, but every time I do, my family thinks I'm crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole world, you opposed any of the dating toward the one of the Swiss guys dating.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's not go about these things, they think I'm crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm stupid, any one of them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I go with none, ain't you told this?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm crazy, babies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they think I'm crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to accept the fact that I'm here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tom, the only thing I know is that I know nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In every sense and aspect of life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we were seen of that as to see through the lives of the enemy or for us, I know it's ours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy trying to explain it, but there is a very active
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[SPEAKER_01]: Active force.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a very active gap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, believe that we have been contention systematically, by an active call it force, I think human ourselves, and be happy with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to see through that, to see through the lies of the reality that acknowledge the truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, fuck, I know that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So fucking crazy, fuck.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You just heard today's guest, Icelandic musician and poet, who joins me, Mystic Mark here on the My Family Think Some Crazy Podcast.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for tuning in and enjoy this conversation with Rolling John.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the My Family Thinks and Crazy Podcast, and I am excited to bring you today's conversation all the way from midway across the Atlantic, almost across the Atlantic, a new friend, someone who I am having the pleasure of hosting all the way from Iceland, rolling John of Iceland joins us here on the My Family Thinks and Crazy Podcast,
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm your host, Mystic Mark, and Rolling John was just telling me about some of the synchronicities, and I just so happened to receive a gift from Iceland last night.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So what are the odds?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't sure which country Rolling John was from, and here we are already, you know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_03]: what brought you to the show and you know ours whatever synchronous cities you want to get started with just give the audience a little background to get a little more familiar with you who you are what brings you to the show today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a lot been following the podcast actively for about two or three years maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what brought me there I think definitely the quantum quantum
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[SPEAKER_01]: I listened to a handful of podcasts on a daily basis, yeah, that being the year's being one of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And what has kept me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you say?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's beyond coincidence, the times I had been in situations had something on my mind.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Days before, and the next episode, boom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, it's where to read it and so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And but yeah, and I like the, you know, the title of that is not podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my, my background meat came to the, let's start again there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Born and raised by Atlantic, I'm learning again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For the years old soon, two years, no one years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could call myself, I'm a, you know, college dropout, the typical story there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And early life, early life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's say since I was a really young kid, I've always had trouble with being told, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What to do?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Problem with authority being worldly or mindfully, should you say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can relate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These conversations, you know, takes in many boxes each episode of weird connections.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which I really don't think are weird at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, myself and Deep divers, when it comes to these subjects and
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[SPEAKER_01]: how to call it, lifted to, right, etc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, you mentioned getting drawn in through the one-on-one podcast, big fans of that show here.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wands a good buddy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, you know, him and I can't get enough of doing shows together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We just, you know, all sorts of excuses to do podcasts together.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We've gone on a little hiatus lately, so hopefully we'll get one back on.
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[SPEAKER_03]: for some sort of show, but you also mentioned my good friends Roman and Dan who no longer podcasts from the rising from the ashes Roman occasionally will do a podcast with me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what Dan's doing, we wish him well, shout out to you, Donanaki Dan, but I imagine
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[SPEAKER_03]: the strain or thread that pulled you in from.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I could be completely wrong.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I could just be stereotyping you if you will.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So please tell me what I have to be believing that work exists.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, instead of stereotyping.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, you don't believe it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, yeah, it's definitely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I understand that people use it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No excuse me if I do because yeah, I wouldn't want to, but maybe it's impossible.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I was curious what subject in particular, and I assume it's the boxaga and this sort of one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all kinds of the non-conformed myths.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How would you say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll try it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The French.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The French.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm deep into fourth glove.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, I know deep into, I'm very interested in the connection of some sort in every corner of the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, there I take into, well, you mentioned box, I only got into that two, three years ago also, but before that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: making my own connections throughout an alternative education and my own, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: This is something I want to get into because the box saga, you know, that's a topic we've talked about and we don't need to retread ground if it's not your main interest, it sounds like it's uninterested viewers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a part of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's supposed to, it's so late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really interesting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even earlier, when was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe this week, this past week, I was doing one of my contemplations and a fact called, you know, rhymed with a fact in a box like a fact, another fact, so yeah, kind of argued with the version of how the box error goes, don't remember what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about that if you would like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would absolutely like to.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just go away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you, if we go from one thing to another, that's okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I do want to understand you rolling John as a person and it's not often that I talk to people from Iceland.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you might be my first Icelandic guest and some of the things that I've learned about Iceland is that there is a rich and unique piece of cultural heritage as you guys have preserved.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I think is it a little bit of a time capsule and can teach us things about European culture and beyond, you know, because it for the most part, Iceland was, you know, separated or isolated from the influence of things like the Vatican or the Anglican church, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you point up into a certain point, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm sure to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I just get like a rich sense of
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[SPEAKER_03]: folklore that's living when I hear about Iceland ensure you know tourism and all that I'm sure some of it has to do with that but one that sticks out my mind is they were trying to build a road somewhere in Iceland and they had one of these fairy rings like a stone circle or some giant boulder that had go ahead
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[SPEAKER_03]: right so and this had a deep significance in the cultural heritage that sort of liminal space that we interact with in our physical world and so that always stuck with me so yeah I'm no stranger to you know what
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can learn about Iceland from afar.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I've never been there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's somewhat of a treat to ask you about this kind of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't want to just go at the box saga.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I know that's an aspect of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we can definitely talk about that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do just want to convey my overall interest in what you have.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So in that sense, growing up, you said you were
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[SPEAKER_03]: sort of anti-authoritarian sort of rebellious, maybe?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Inwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just always have feeling, you know, in personal, in dependency, because all things, you know, let's just say, I'm young, questioning the authority of things of the company, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I can relate, and from my young mind, I was doing similar things, questioning authority, but really, you know, in some ways it was limited to what I was interested in.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And right, so as I got older, I sort of, these things changed and evolved, but some of the things that I remember.
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[SPEAKER_03]: deeply believing in as a kid, or these mystical folkloric type beings that I would find in books here in the air occasionally, fairies, brownies, gremlins, you know, all day.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So let me ask you this is somebody who's maybe more in touch potentially and again this could just be my own, you know, the grass is greener on the other side as we say, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: is that, you know, something that was a part of your childhood.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you said you're a rebellious, so imagine you might have even sought this kind of thing out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You maybe looking, you didn't fit with the mainstream narrative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, from two years old to ten years old, I grew up on a farm with my parents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we were at cows and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we, in the farm was placed next to a, like a small mountain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I call it mountain maybe, but you know, and you know, rocks all around and playing alone as a kid in a farm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'm definitely sure that, you know, something is beyond.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We call it fairies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you're familiar with like the Irish folk tales, you know, with the rail in that one.
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[SPEAKER_03]: We have similar things in indigenous culture in North America.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's... Yeah, we have it here also, that's... Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that connection actually comes from the people who were here before the official settlers came here, you know, the whoever people that may have been, but they possessed
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[SPEAKER_01]: and mythology or the very version of science and history, maybe, I don't know, and that involved connection with another senses and how we maybe do not have the same senses towards our environment, as we maybe did, thousands of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_03]: yeah i think that's something people instinctually feel regardless of whether they see it through a spiritual or metaphysical or biological realm we have this instinctual connection to the wonder of the natural world and you know when you're a kid you don't have the rigid boundaries of what is and isn't real so
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[SPEAKER_03]: I tend to, it, children are more open to these sorts of experiences.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, were there any, let's say, pronounced or sort of, strange occurrences that you can remember from that period when you're living with the cattle and, you know, on the farm and, you know, yeah, I'm thinking back growing up around animals, as with the cows, I used to, you know, basically,
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[SPEAKER_01]: hang with and the time my parents were, you know, doing Michigan and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's funny we're going into that direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've always had this, and I think everybody, I have this ability, deep inside, and as you mentioned, as kids especially.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, growing up, stuff around us, that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: Narrow's death went to enclose it and went silly for most people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I remember you hanging out with the cows.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a talk there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We called the Hopo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Icelandic sheep talk version of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He followed me all around.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My mother used to tell me always in his eyes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said like he always positioned himself seeing the farm and seeing me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I, you know, so yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we just had a... Yeah, and I've always gone through life with those kinds of connections with animals and genitals, like... And the trees, plants, my natural environment, collected rocks, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How every... In the basics of...
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[SPEAKER_03]: Every picture I've seen of Iceland is kind of like Tundra, but you know, there's the adage that Greenland is full of ice and Iceland is actually quite green, so I'm kind of picturing based on you know, more of a pastoral rolling hills and maybe a short summer, but overall enough warmth to, you know, get a living with cattle and maybe some
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there may be, yeah, because of technology that has somewhat.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying it's easier now to pull that off with technology.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm saying to, yeah, have a two hundred cows, you know, make them instead of having, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, track doors to work the fields.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's mainly throughout history, it's been a fascination.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: see fairers and that kind of brings me to one of the points I wanted to touch on if we have time for it, we don't have to get it to it right now.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But in my mind, Iceland is a sort of clue about the pre-Columbian travelers who may have settled in North America.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You might have listened to my interview with Dr. I believe his first name was Roland or
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[SPEAKER_03]: Ronald Ryan, something like that, Roland Ryan, something close to that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he was from Newfoundland, Canada.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And he, part of a group of people called the Biotic who by all intents of purposes have European features, even though he had been pre-Columbian settlers and had established themselves for centuries, even like trading and
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[SPEAKER_03]: interbreeding and, you know, mixing with all the indigenous people around them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's this concept that we touch on a lot on the show here, this idea, this notion that, you know, it's mentioned in one of the sagas that don't remember which one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably, yeah, it's when they found the length and stayed there for a winter or two and went back like a group of peoples.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now for people who aren't familiar, you're referring to Iceland's sagas, which were... Yeah, the sagas, so it's not it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is important by Vikings, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: These were like Iceland's versions of Vikings, or did they come from a different part of Europe?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: These were born, second generation property, people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they started, like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The story I'm referring to, they leave again to Iceland and take one slave woman with them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I should do, yeah, but not considers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they took one, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been proven through genealogy research that a gene that only follows the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Modern lineage, some gene, gene reading, if you would call it like that, has that is Native American, has survived in Iceland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Very few people from the Northwest of Iceland have, for some reason, like a gene stamp from North American indigenous people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that actually proves the connection and this is only one example.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are many more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I personally believe that these versions that we built of that, particularly Icelandic settlement history and the people around there, I think it's a really shady, I mean, I'm fifty-fifty on believing
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[SPEAKER_01]: half of it, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What makes you say that because I'm familiar with, um, at least it's glorified the love.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, they say that there might have been Vikings in Iceland much earlier than history, mainstream history tells us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the architects, also like the influence of the casting arm of, yeah, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that our theories that the truth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: had like an outpost here for Roswell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, these theories were like what else substantiates this?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it conjecture?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is there evidence?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are there physical elements?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, mainly may be linguistic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That theory is built upon the theory, which is in my opinion pretty obvious.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The more casting influences, then, for example,
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the people who, originally, and officially, that's why I say glorified that there are, you know, pakes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we are told to a version of a story like like in media today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's what I'm we always done that, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when the signs were written, they just wrote a version
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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm on that and I think you're saying that just for the audience that might not be following because yeah, you know, there is a little bit of a language barrier even though we're both speaking English.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm definitely understanding what you're saying, but I'm getting that what you're hinting at is that there's propaganda even in what is officially called like Iceland's oldest official history, even that
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, just saying, I personally think that it is pretty obvious that not only us, you know, the world in general, we are always conditioned to the versions of the history and everything around us by points of view, some getting more lifted higher than others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hear what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Not necessarily manipulated propaganda, but it's history is written by the winner sort of sentiment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And stories in fact.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me ask you if we could get into some of those, because we're not always just chase after hard facts and things that are falsifiable as are.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like to say, but I'm curious about these stories and some of the things that you think maybe are being overlooked in favor of this more Western point of view, or while in this case, from your perspective, more Eastern point of view coming from the Vatican and other
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[SPEAKER_03]: Central European government's, well, main land governments.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But let me ask you about, because we talked a little bit about the box saga, but a big aspect of the box saga is the linguistic, the language that has this double-triple meaning, and when they started, like any ancient language, particularly when we look at like Hebrew, there's always
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[SPEAKER_03]: The gematria or the numerology angle that people put into it because of all this stuff in me.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: The Madonna has a copy of it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm blanking on the name the cabala.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The cabala.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but it's almost like a Norse cabala when you look into some of the origins of the Norse language.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've heard even like the druids had a little bit of each syllable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's, and then it was like a note from a tree, like an actual species of a tree denoted actual, you know, figuring it out a bit.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So tell me about this, because it seems like a big part of the entire lore here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot about the language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's, yes, that is huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say there's something that could close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And language controls reality, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's what these cultures were highly aware of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing cultural, magic, and languages.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, words of languages don't agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They create an image in your brain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if the depth between space in the letters, the syllables you say?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the spaces between consonant syllables.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that the Icelandic is possibly closest to best still, you know, along with other languages of the world, but I'm saying like in the, for example, the Germanic or
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[SPEAKER_01]: that we haven't found out through as much throughout history, you know, through other influences that systematically maybe are aware of this and try to, I mean, simplify languages when you simplify a meaning of words in a language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it all works in the direction of taking away the
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[SPEAKER_01]: that culture or that language, because language is how person or society sees the world's expected, the world that aren't written on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So how languages used and controlled is very
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a serious matter.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it seems to be a war or people's attention and paying attention to certain words and certain rituals over others and over time by repetition, you know, certain things are forgotten and then other things are remembered.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that we lose the meaning behind some symbols that I think are preserved because there are secret groups of people who are fighting against this, you know, destruction of tradition and they're trying to preserve it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: For worse or for better, you know, there's a lot of people that will come on this podcast and tell me all secret societies are bad.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I've done my own research and it definitely, there's a case to be made there, but I hope that there are secret societies out there that are kind of like the, you know, the wizards of good who, you know, protect these kind of secrets and keep them safe for the next generation and maybe even subtly secretly influence the culture in that direction.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it could be wishful thinking, but
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think these symbols are still culture, and they're potent, even though we might have lost the words and the meaning, you know, they're still there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Even the letters themselves, like you're saying, you know, when you look at the Icelandic alphabet, it says close to that original tongue, which might have had some sacred qualities.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I would argue it did.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I know
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know the specific concepts off the top of my head, but I know that according to one guest we've had on the show, who has a book called Pie in the English language, the English language influenced by, you know, these mathematical codes, I think, so it's just inherent in these ancient languages somehow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was actually what I was trying to get that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when you have to think in a lower length with you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we have listeners from all over the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to think there might be an audience to understand your... Yeah, I was just saying that I have these books written in the seventies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Icelandic of six books in like a book grew
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[SPEAKER_01]: He calls them doesn't matter what he calls them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it does.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's it's book has a one room from the runic alphabet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: What's his name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a household.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's called the right to east-slash government and it's roots of Icelandic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Icelandic side of men and bear essence or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he goes deep into where the both roots of influences in the origin of the Icelandic of language, history, customs, etc.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he mentions that according to studies of not only him but other Icelandic men,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and women, the settlement, at that time they would have their properties in surfcourse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah, like a surfcourse, parts of land that didn't throw straight lines.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is said, you know, in the size that you had to walk with your cow and a torch and how long you could walk
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[SPEAKER_01]: before the torch went out something something ridiculous explanations which may be a true but brought forward very awkwardly anyway he takes an example in these books somewhere that had been brought to me that in these subtle settling of blank they used the numbers in the I can't remember the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But for example, I think it's four, three, two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The golden ratio numbers are two, eighteen.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, four, three, two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a golden ratio.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They used that in massuring distances, which coincidentally fit between mountains here and there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like everything is mathematically settled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in that connection and especially in the South West I think he makes an example of the measurements and it rhymes with how they build the same Peter's church, you know the church in Saint Peter's book in relation to naming a mountain something that would go with
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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, the ass starts, yeah, he mentions that there's a good relationship in the connection with the pie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We went from there, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, yeah, I'm saying that if you continue with the pie thing, you're selling me a boat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The pie book, you're, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that was my connection to the version of how it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That history, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm thinking of so many other books to that come to mind when I talk about these landscape connections and you're talking about how this church rhymes with the church in St.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Petersburg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a church.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the landscapes in the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like a mountain here, a mountain there, and they called them the name sauce, you know, that can be translated into meaning of, for example, Astaro, or something somewhere where another name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The main thing being that they used the same type of measurements and calculation in settling the whole country.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It reminds me of a book that should be in front of me if I could just find the cover of it and read the title off.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, there's the grid of the gods by Joseph P. Farrell and Scott.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's another one on the
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[SPEAKER_03]: behind me, if I could just place my eyes on there, it is sacred geometry of the earth.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And it gets into some sites, I don't not in Iceland, but in the UK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's the thing, the ocean, the islands, and there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this book is Mark Vidler and Katherine Young.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, somebody's on a race.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sacred geometry of the earth, the ancient matrix of monuments and mountains by Vidler and Katherine Young.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it does occur all over the world.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Check that out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's be a part about Iceland in here if I could just look it up.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But, and that's not the druids in relationship with these steady monuments and certain mountains and to you're right on the money there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing with the name Iceland, notion also being confusing version because, you know, in Iceland it gets east-lunk.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course you think, yeah, east.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's ice, you know?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also, in that category of theories, the same people that are into this, that they know about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They say, no, the East, in Eastland comes from the same East, as in East, East, and because the East has, it is everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's behind all somewhere
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[SPEAKER_01]: in every corner of the religion.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if that would be the case that today is not Iceland, it is Iceland.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this, you know, always it would make sense in that matter that this would be the some kind of special location for the group of people at the time, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe saddle to maybe have like a yeah off of the grid existence doing their stuff which then gets taken over by people who you know are the official version of stories you know I say yeah essentially is what you're saying that's fascinating
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the same ease as in the use in religion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of a god or a goddess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it makes a think of ours.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And in that, so I go further with that connection because you're talking about Hebrew and the myth, this isn't behind that language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That when it goes to the tribes of Israel, the tribes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're in the twelfth and one lost.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember the story quite directly, but if you take that version and somehow trace it back, as far as you can, and if you take Iceland, we would be the people of Benjamin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's from one of his books, the guy in a person.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go to the box, they have the types of Sranal Dan, you know, who, yeah, who migrate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it connects all of these versions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever you call it, you can always find the same tempo in the same story told differently because they're from different languages which are at the time when they are told these stories.
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[SPEAKER_01]: our long time ago maybe in a language that people understand in the way at the time because just look at our lifetimes and almost ten years older than you we have personally experienced changes in meaning of many words not maybe significant but if you take
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[SPEAKER_01]: One word today and carefully look at the meaning for yourself or in general in society, ten years ago, ten years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not as about like you have an open eye for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what about stories that even though you can understand what you're eating or what you're interested in or translating, you can understand what you're making.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can connect
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[SPEAKER_01]: words that have a dictionary meaning of what this do you know what I'm going with it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's really it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think, yeah, it's not appreciated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not appreciated.
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[SPEAKER_03]: right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As much as it should be the fact that we have to think about this in a sense.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's being overlooked for sure, but hopefully with the help of this podcast not any longer, now
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm curious how much overlap there is with Icelandic folklore and what we might think of as European folklore.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously we touched on the similarities with the
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[SPEAKER_03]: Irish and the fairies and all that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But about the duatha day done in because there is a whole story that these beings, you know, essentially giants and there's all sorts of what seem like racism of beings that aren't quite like
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[SPEAKER_03]: mythological, they seem more like they're just a part of our experience back then.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And now they've been kind of relegated or shoved into the category of mythology.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they seem to read a lot more like history.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have roles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I will track this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We translate into prose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants who haven't been to rocks at sunrise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in some versions of Fort Worth, but you look at the culture of armor, I think it's called that culture armor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Icelandic, we have these four cartoons, island, and one of them being just letting to cliff giant, he protects the
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[SPEAKER_01]: East, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we protect, there is a one protector for every, you can cut in the direction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, not so East, you know, as giant bull, and then it says, a giant, I think it's an equal ray of an afascone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And last, uh, dragon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: which is very interesting that we have a track on in our being an interesting subject for itself.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get into that.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm fascinated why you would say that because
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I can't think of what a nice landing depiction of a dragon looks like.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So is it similar to what we see in like French or English folklore where they're like kind of almost look like what we now think of as.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no of this, but look, my emphasis, I mean, we haven't had this culture of mode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But on your own, maybe in the nineteenth or eight concentric after the... I think it's like a coffee, cat version, lending in... ...beating a story.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, could be worse because we don't have any... ...literal stories or mythologies Icelandic about a dragon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like the warms, you know, we have a mythological one myth is about the giant river snake, which was supposed to be like trans-D-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-P-
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[SPEAKER_01]: beautify a version of, I don't know, maybe it's just a part of it or it's a reference to because it's the directions, you know, it's for every direction, maybe the represent is the direction and it goes along with other versions because for no note out that we have
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[SPEAKER_01]: process of knowledge, which ancient knowledge, which the rest of the world did also, meaning that the official version here told of our satellite history and stories from there, have to be asked at least as I say glorified.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the TV version of what the world really went on because it's everybody knows it's have to keep track of what is going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: month by month somewhere original right, but justifiable real history about that, who's hundred and fifty years later, because that's when it's not as difficult and rough, rough as ours, I would say, let's say, let's say, let's say, I think we don't,
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[SPEAKER_01]: all the any of our those things of these allegories or mythologies.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have just we haven't lost or changed those things of maybe other more known on the global level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know cultural because before we test you tell you about or count
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[SPEAKER_01]: Count something up, you know, that I would believe being originalized lentico stuff, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We would always find out that it has a connection to something else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just our versions of and our explanations throughout the language as it is understood of truth from all the parts of the world, you know.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Seems like the cultural infusion where maybe like America is more cultural diffusion where our culture goes out and influences other places.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Iceland has history of being influenced by different cultures coming into it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And as you're saying, kind of adopting
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[SPEAKER_03]: new stories or different stories.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, you see that with indigenous cultures in the Americas, particularly when it comes to religion.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But it is interesting to hear the juxtaposition in what you're saying.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Almost sounds like you're sort of pessimistic about this situation.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like the real meaning is truly gone or is it just... Hey, I'm not definitely nothing though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I have condensed
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[SPEAKER_01]: quite just the opposite of what you have seen is the greatest looking negatively at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm opposite of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know how to call it the age of logic basically, but I would use the Icelandic word skin semi and skin semi just logic based on the
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[SPEAKER_01]: experience?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got expression of what you see here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Observation, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Observation, et cetera.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the language that you are trained to be visualized and to make a mental image, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And operate basically and mentally from
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[SPEAKER_01]: The method images you create the news, etc.
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[SPEAKER_03]: feel like there's a sort of with English as opposed to your native language.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a sort of piecing a part or separation of meaning in the words themselves because I get to sense when I hear Icelandic words.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You used one word to describe something that takes eight or nine English words to understand.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that's
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the name of these languages of time, you know, same room.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to say, yeah, my book, Icelandic is closest to you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the others have evolved more or what I would like to think they have seen.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then, systematically, you see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Good work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would benefit from manipulating people in the way of taking, in this case, something away from them that basically empowers them personally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's how deep and important of the languages go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, two days, you can see it for all languages of the world probably.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But they get more simple, it's day, you know, more shallow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to, you know, less poetic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The languages get less poetic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Less, less, you have to think less.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, somebody who only speaks one language, I am a bit stunted, but I guess it is something that I can't blame totally on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, so I'm saying it's all languages from my point of view, they're like, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I hear you.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I just think there's something about your both cases where one has become simplified almost for this capitalist, consumerist, corporate sort of interest.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But then there's the other side of it, which is like this religious, restrictive, controlling sort of aspect to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they are still even for the both sides of what you mentioned there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've driven by the same human law of meeting to control, you know, and get it from there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you mentioned the secret societies before, you know, of course they exist, like we're just napperhood in the big city, the world here, we live in and of course it has its gangs,
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[SPEAKER_01]: around the blocks, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see that you know and they are all working out from there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and on that note, you mentioned the dragon being relatively new to the heraldry or the, you know, symbolic armor of the of Iceland that, you know, could the dragon be signifying some sort of secret society connection when we see the dragon associated with several different groups in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, you can try the dragon or the lion or the bull or the fascon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it's in all codes of armors everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, it's representing something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not very deep into it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The could be the midgard serpent type of reference because we are in a middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For example, the Atlantic rich, I was gonna say, the volcano rich that separates the continents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are on the top of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I may be that this
55:37
[SPEAKER_03]: When you mentioned the ISIS connection, there's definitely a spontaneous aspect to ISIS and her goddess energy.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Some people would say ISIS is maybe what?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Eve is based on, and obviously Eve plays a role with the serpent.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the Christian Christian Judeo sort of angle there.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But comes to
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the volcanic ridge, what comes to mind, kind of to bring it into the box saga again, but also what we're talking about with these uncharted navigators, people making pre-Columbian voyages, makes me think that in a time where the oceans were different or the sea level was lower, however that paned out,
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[SPEAKER_03]: It may have been that Iceland is this last remnant of whatever sunk in continent was down, you know, or is now down beneath the Atlantic Ocean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that has to be a problem.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, last random door, a new path off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, yeah, we are just mineral, see, above sea level, I don't know, that old thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of millions of years in history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, so it could be that, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But we're talking with definitely one hundred, eighty million, two hundred million maybe, but not as, you know, the British I was, for example, if you go there,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are young to them.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and it's enough.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess of volcanic part, maybe not as active as the Pacific Rim, but it's in that sort of arrangement for the Atlantic Ocean.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, it's fascinating because
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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned this trolls earlier and how they become stone during the daytime.
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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a ton of Native American legends around here where I grew up that talk about not only giants turning into stone, but becoming entire mountains and battling what they called Thunderbirds, which maybe could be a mythological eagle.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there are mythological versions of
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[SPEAKER_03]: Eagles and Western mythology.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean the Griffin is I don't know how that fits and it might not fit in at all to Iceland but yeah it does ring it rhymes a little bit and I always kind of try to connect these dots because part of my suspicion is that you know if there was a lost culture that went under the ocean and land is or whatever you're going to call it
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[SPEAKER_03]: They probably fled to the different parts of this surrounding Atlantic Ocean, and been the Americas, and there would have been a mile where Egypt settled in all the green cultures of Europe, which
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[SPEAKER_01]: As I mentioned before, I said, if we put the dinner connection to Hebrew, like the Israel and those all the cultures there, we would be the Benjamin's, you know, the type of Benjamin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you were saying, if it sinks and they go all in its directions, you know, these connections, which you call it, the allegories or satires or allegories maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they're all saying telling this same story but
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the whispering game?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, telephone is what we call it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's definitely this sort of what Joseph Campbell talks about, or you can see the hero and all these different stories.
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[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like he almost sort of waters it down, whereas the real truth is that there is a concurrent or connected thread that goes through all these different cultures.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_03]: Just seems like Iceland again going back to one of the things we started with is preserving some sort of truth whether that connects to Atlanta or it connects to some, you know, Norse origin of Western culture that now they're trying to sweep under the rug because they want it to be, you know, Roman, they want it to have connections to the Mediterranean, the North,
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, that makes sense to me from what you said earlier about points of view and how the Catholic Church sort of created these old settlements in Iceland and started the official history of Iceland right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of these old cultures that have gone through throughout history are systematic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's useful.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So many times not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We, you know, that are still the memory of the, the go through systemic, like I was saying before, the meaning out of culture, because culture and the languages and the cultures, you know, when they are simplified, when everything, when you, yeah, when you take something that is one hundred,
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you take away always from each side systematically daily.
1:01:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say every ten years, you take five from each side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Throw them away, you simplify something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that goes, you know, that fits in this, you know, the country in the country which I have been really aware of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it says the two thousand, two thousand one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: really into medical with the agenda of the one nation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One world currency, one world language, you know, control centrally from somewhere, the new world author conspiracies.
1:02:02
[SPEAKER_03]: I have some questions about different Icelandic mysteries and strange things that I was able to come across but on that note that you just brought up when it comes to where Iceland fits into Europe and their politics
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[SPEAKER_03]: How independent is Iceland?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I have a vague memory of hearing a story about Iceland kicking out bankers at a certain point in recent history.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's go to collapse.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Two thousand day collapse day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we didn't kick them out.
1:02:38
[SPEAKER_01]: They had no prosecuted them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
1:02:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a failed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bankers themselves, maybe, are as much of criminals as you know, runners are for game leaders, you know.
1:03:02
[SPEAKER_01]: When I think them basically, you know, like they are working in an environment that is accepted that it is even met a general public belief, is both necessary and really smart.
1:03:18
[SPEAKER_01]: In other words, society is run.
1:03:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, they sent them to jail, but the jail was a form of an open jail.
1:03:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were staying in like cabins with access to their coosysenship.
1:03:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that was a show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, out in the pantents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we took that from Denmark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: in the second world war when they were occupied by the Nazis and we have always been very influenced.
1:03:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the independence is not so strong in the sense of standing on an independent feed towards not
1:04:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, we are controlled and we have been controlled by forces, political forces throughout maturity or for independence, I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like from abroad.
1:04:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got our real independence, like when you're self-governed, but not like Denmark has, I think,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The four islands are like that now.
1:04:43
[SPEAKER_01]: They have it on, you know, concretion everything, but they're owned by Denmark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We got that in nineteen eighteenth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the second world where we finalized it to the opportunity.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is another form of politics and yeah, that's through.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's another way that it's been used to
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[SPEAKER_01]: the de-centralists humans from their own core, you know, like in generous, like organized religion, etc.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, are you seeing people generally in Iceland sort of falling victim to the overall global scheme of moving to big cities?
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[SPEAKER_03]: I imagine Rick Givick is probably, right?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the capital city or the main city.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it sort of like that in Iceland?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is the capital now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, actually just
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[SPEAKER_01]: Recently, on the news, they were talking about young families moving out of the Gretreke area to, you know, smaller settlements throughout the country because it's cheaper and you can work online and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it's what, yeah, quickly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but like intentionally or not, I think it's, yeah, but they are the, your question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would answer, yeah, they are influenced.
1:06:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think just it is that it is because of this control I'm talking about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That we do not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's the decision of the people who think they are in power.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they are following not examples but lay lines of cultural declination of
1:06:58
[SPEAKER_01]: We are just an example of many around the world, you know, they're trying to push, push their, it's a, it's useless to use the word there.
1:07:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, there are influences, and it's obvious, I would think, you know, there was a fear being manipulated on a very high level in our lives, in our realities.
1:07:29
[SPEAKER_01]: that's something that is for me very obvious and that there's a minute that I roll around in that contemplation you know daily or stuff like that but it's good to be aware of
1:07:42
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me ask you about that, how you deal with that, because I'm still curious what rolling John means to you, and to me from everything I know about words and how I interpret things.
1:07:56
[SPEAKER_03]: When I hear rolling John, I think of like a rolling stone, you know, somebody who's kind of free, I think of things kind of roll off your back, the sort of phrase that like, you know, you don't let things bother you very easily.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, all the fact that this is childhood not being really kind of taking a cantilever to any kind of authority.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that sense, yeah, and it came about when I, because I was very, really good in rolling joints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a group, but there you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It stuck, but then, of course, I have helped on to that name, I said both states name and writing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now let me ask you this when you write or you go on stage, where are you primarily?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you doing spoken word?
1:08:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm on stage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I play guitar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I play guitar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I play guitar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I play drums and songs out of poetry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It all started with writing down some kind of poetry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Always always been always done that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: who is out from death, writing songs, and I keep that just, like the truth of the stage, some folk music.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That's beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd love for you to share some of your music with me, and I'll definitely share that with the audience, if you will.
1:09:34
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll send us a link, and we can link it up in the podcast description for sure.
1:09:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's really cool.
1:09:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So I have a song close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I come under the name of the song.
1:09:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you have a song by some close song close.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I come.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:09:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Soundcloud.
1:09:54
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:09:55
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the center I think and we'll share people can find that real easily in the podcast episode description.
1:10:03
[SPEAKER_03]: So if it's interesting, I'm very curious to hear more from your music.
1:10:07
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want you to have to describe it or talk more about it because I know it's probably best to listen to it and experience it that way.
1:10:16
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm curious as far as, you know, synchronicities go, I know it's not always easy to pull one out of the many that happened to us throughout the weeks and months.
1:10:28
[SPEAKER_03]: years, but were there any particular things in your mind that you wanted to share with me while we're here, you know, speaking?
1:10:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but first it comes to mind this, the actual title of your podcast because and how that comes about for yourself is that I share almost exactly the same story to the point that, you know, being asked to, you know,
1:10:57
[SPEAKER_01]: make me sick, so I'm professional, half about it.
1:11:02
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a test for that, you know, so just yeah.
1:11:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm coming from the exactly the same.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure poetry, music, and you know, that being an outlet.
1:11:18
[SPEAKER_03]: just like podcasting is my outlet you know you get invested in anything that you love you put your heart into and people who don't share that have a hard time relating to it you know whether they think it's crazy or how what have you but let me ask you this is there anything versus or conspiracy related about your I mean obviously you're anti authoritarian but
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you sort of try to let that influence your music and your artistry is that part of why they think you agree?
1:11:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe in the sense of just being, you know, pointing out the nakedness of the Emperor, you know, not, yeah.
1:12:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And pointing out controversies in, you know, just, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's just a, yeah, do what I do, what I just want, express, for what reason, maybe just to, to challenge, I don't know, to put everything in.
1:12:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me ask this on the note of our family seeking more crazy, you know, how would you advise somebody out there who was feeling the same way?
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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, what do you, how do you personally walk that road?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you care?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you mind?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you let it go?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely not.
1:12:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was, I went to the point of believing in myself at the end, you know, and having a, having a,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could say a rough path for a period of time until, I guess, the point where you as a person just, you know, because we don't, we don't express us correctly in the meaning of, you know, ending up being called crazy, correctly or,
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the word for?
1:13:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Not being to say stuff when you're not supposed to be talking about that in that situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the word for it?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Inflammatory, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, to invade.
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[SPEAKER_01]: people's reality basically by oversharing what we are going through.
1:13:51
[SPEAKER_03]: I would call that brave, you know, because we don't, I didn't, my, my floor was the, I would say based on, based on integration, the conditions of
1:14:16
[SPEAKER_01]: My outer reality rather than my inner reality.
1:14:19
[SPEAKER_01]: And in my case, it was just this deep dive into the self andness, who I am, you know, beyond my name or my worldly existence.
1:14:35
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you know, it's basically what every self
1:14:41
[SPEAKER_01]: has been programmed then surround the fact that it's all in the hips, you know, it's your responsibility of self to recognize, to re-contition, to see through it basically.
1:14:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I made that just by opening, to accept the fact that I think, the only thing I know is that I know nothing, you know, in every sense,
1:15:11
[SPEAKER_01]: an aspect of life.
1:15:14
[SPEAKER_01]: We're seeing that it has to see through the lives of the enemy of us.
1:15:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's also crazy trying to explain it, but there is a very active force, there is a very active
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[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me of, yeah, believe that we have been conditioned systematically by an active, we could call it force or something, to do the human ourselves and be happy with it, and to see through that, to see through the lies of reality, and that knowledge, the truth,
1:16:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh fuck, I know that sounds fucking crazy.
1:16:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm right there with you man.
1:16:17
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, do you see it in a sort of nostick way?
1:16:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Because at first, your mind and me of things I've seen in Bruce Lee's jeek and dull, you know, this idea that you are your enemy, that you're fighting and you're fighting your opponent, you're fighting yourself.
1:16:33
[SPEAKER_03]: in this philosophical way as you grow and evolve and improve and learn to practice non-harm and this really deep and extreme way through martial arts like it's the way without a way, you know, this sort of Taoist
1:16:49
[SPEAKER_03]: I do get that sense anytime I've seen, you know, not just Iceland in particular, but Norse, religion, Norse paganism.
1:16:58
[SPEAKER_03]: It has this sort of Taoist angle to it, even though that might not be outwardly acknowledged.
1:17:06
[SPEAKER_03]: It comes from a different place though.
1:17:07
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the same sort of peacefulness.
1:17:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that because you mentioned that, and the paganism, the außer-through, the mythologies, behind the, at least, not paganism, and its connections, its philosophy, the connection of that philosophy to the Eastern areas, like even, to India, Asia, or the inverse of stories, I believe that
1:17:36
[SPEAKER_01]: also through there is many hints to that those stories could be originated in reality, like of real people, because the only sources we have, what we consider best sources are,
1:17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: written by this guy, this snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorkeye, snorke
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[SPEAKER_01]: understanding of stories again throughout the language and the changes and how a person understands a word and the use of it at any given compound.
1:18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because apparently we are supposed to be able to trace in other origins literally to them somehow.
1:18:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one version of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fascinating, I guess.
1:18:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a form of unsustain belief, if you would put it back away.
1:19:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's a living connection to them, through one.
1:19:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, yeah.
1:19:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:19:10
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fascinating.
1:19:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen the recent news story about the petroglyphs that were covered somewhere up in northern Canada that seemed to be Runeck?
1:19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I have.
1:19:24
[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds really interesting.
1:19:25
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this was new.
1:19:26
[SPEAKER_03]: I forget who was telling me about it, but oh, you know what?
1:19:30
[SPEAKER_03]: It was something that they mentioned on Sam Tripoli's podcast broken simulation with Johnny Wooder.
1:19:36
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:19:37
[SPEAKER_03]: Johnny brought it up in one of his new stories, but yeah, it's one of many, you know, the one that I'm familiar with is in Peterborough, Ontario, and it has an entire North scene with Vikings and all sorts of stuff.
1:19:51
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me keep bringing it back to that one topic.
1:19:55
[SPEAKER_03]: It is fascinating to see how this all connects across the world and there's a larger puzzle that Iceland plays, you know, fits in as a piece of, you know, and it's really, you know, something to behold, this language and how it can connect us so far in the past.
1:20:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, choosing a location
1:20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I haven't got really deep into the energy grid sort of lay lines that could fit.
1:20:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we always talk about the sixty-six degrees north.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We cross that somewhere.
1:20:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the same stuff went on here.
1:20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: that went on everywhere else and has been suppressed and has been kept on and not talked about.
1:21:01
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me ask you this because this is something that I'm sure that they would suppress in at least the American media.
1:21:09
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's been rumors that the northern lights are no longer as vibrant or visible as they once were.
1:21:18
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if Iceland can see the lights on a regular basis.
1:21:23
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.
1:21:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So I haven't cooked this.
1:21:29
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going down on this side, but actually last year, I think, you know, they were quite... Right, vibrant.
1:21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bright and bright, I mean, I remember... From, yeah, the been purple green and all that in between, since I was a kid, and still I've...
1:21:50
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and on my, I think it was twenty-nineth birthday last year.
1:21:57
[SPEAKER_03]: It was my thirtyth birthday last year.
1:22:01
[SPEAKER_03]: We had for the first time in my lifetime, and I think even in my parents' lifetime, we were able to see what they told us were northern lights here in where I'm at on the East Coast.
1:22:15
[SPEAKER_01]: which you know it's pretty far south in Connecticut you know we're almost near New York City so yeah apparently the last year was some kind of a huge solar particle hits like a wave yeah they saw them down in London also and
1:22:32
[SPEAKER_03]: see and that's why I'm glad I brought it up because you know what real northern lights looked like and when I saw it you know that of course the news said it was northern lights but when I looked at it I'm like this looks like pink and orange like every northern lights photo I've ever seen you know sometimes there's pink never really seen orange but I see blue and green and you know mostly that I don't really
1:22:58
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I've not, I've never seen it with my own eyes, but when they told me that this big pink, you know, sort of, it looked like a sunset in the middle of the night almost.
1:23:09
[SPEAKER_03]: And when they said that was Northern Lights, I was a little suspicious.
1:23:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So somebody who regularly sees them, what should take on it?
1:23:16
[SPEAKER_03]: That is more likely solar activity, you think?
1:23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, my take on this, the only thing I know is I know nothing because
1:23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I believe that everything I know is not there.
1:23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's not there as I'm told, so I don't know.
1:23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: There are stories I've heard.
1:23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they come from the people in Canada or Greenland or
1:23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: somewhere else from that they actually come from up from earth and not up from out of space.
1:24:02
[SPEAKER_01]: We would call them types of myths or false beliefs, but I've heard that somewhere that people believe that they will come out of earth.
1:24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, man.
1:24:16
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's something strange.
1:24:18
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and on that note, you know, of things from other worlds, are UFOs are common occurrence in Iceland.
1:24:27
[SPEAKER_03]: They're often seen here.
1:24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
1:24:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me about.
1:24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess I think we aren't really, I think people are really in the shadows with it.
1:24:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're more common than
1:24:45
[SPEAKER_01]: we know about because and I think that the size of the population plays a huge role into it and people, you know, works better around quickly and everything and if your family thinks you're crazy, you know, more people know about it than maybe in a bigger population in your society.
1:25:10
[SPEAKER_01]: So I actually think and
1:25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: from those that I've heard people talk about and it's always through other people because people don't want to be and they want to be anonymous with it.
1:25:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that had been some and more of course recently there is a theory I actually read about recently and I didn't go really deep into it but there is a theory that there is actually an underground American underground military base somewhere in the west
1:25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And that had been used for housing some kind of something.
1:25:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know, probably some developed, some technology.
1:25:53
[SPEAKER_03]: Now when you see a lot of the last of Iceland, is there a certain name for that region?
1:25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it was close to the Sniflesnes peninsula where, yeah, in trade affairs.
1:26:08
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what's interesting is I just found an article over here on my computer that says there was a sort of Iceland's version of a UFO craze where a bunch of people went to what I mean it could be a different word with the same prefix, but it's how it looks like it reads exactly like what you just said.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Snaffles.
1:26:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Something else.
1:26:36
[SPEAKER_03]: That's actually... Is that like the UFO hotspot?
1:26:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Over there, nice?
1:26:39
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm finding stories about it.
1:26:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the Jews weren't talks about the thing.
1:26:44
[SPEAKER_01]: The entrance to Midluth.
1:26:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
1:26:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Being there.
1:26:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there is the volcano hack, where it's the Vatican in the Middle Ages called the entrance to Hell.
1:26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not in the same area.
1:27:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as Nike said, it was supposed to be also an energy sport.
1:27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It has its own protector, since we put on the protectors.
1:27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was called Bauder, Snavishaus.
1:27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: His story is that he is part human path, I think.
1:27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: or a giant for something.
1:27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a cave there that he is supposed to have used called shrink headlifts.
1:27:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's translated to singing cave or vocal cave.
1:27:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It has really, really good acoustics and that fact that this is from the sagas.
1:27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: and that explanation, that the existence of all that's it, that the cave and that have giant half-man, you know, and how that coincides with all the versions of the polity, somewhere, you know, and the use of importance of the sound in use, for healing, for that, you know, who knows, who knows?
1:28:14
[SPEAKER_03]: One, you know, when these locations get identified often times, you know, people keep them secret and protect them, not always for the right reasons.
1:28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: history of the interpretations of the past.
1:28:39
[SPEAKER_01]: It always has to there's some truth in it because if you follow just if we give us the fact that aspect that they follow the follow the of all this stuff, the golden ratio, the uric, basically what you call it physics and then all those
1:29:02
[SPEAKER_01]: all theories of basics except or maybe black-mathed, but and in mathematics there's the only thing that exists is truth, it's fact, you know, like that's what I'm trying to say.
1:29:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So if we give us that, that these people who are reporting throughout history, they have to have somewhere in their
1:29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: The reports have to lie the truth even though it's hit them or obscured the pervastive or made to be misinterpreted.
1:29:34
[SPEAKER_01]: It is always there and it's too, it's, and it's even made.
1:29:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Respected in the way that, to see it, you have to go through the contemplation of thinking.
1:29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: You must be crazy because it's not what you have been told and the rest of people to interpret.
1:29:58
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
1:29:59
[SPEAKER_03]: It is definitely a woe.
1:30:01
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what you're talking about.
1:30:03
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, John, I gotta say, I'm sure it's later than it is over here in Iceland.
1:30:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the Iceland Times own is.
1:30:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it the same as it is?
1:30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's ten, ten, forty five p.m.
1:30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: here.
1:30:19
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so it's not too late, but still I appreciate you spending your evening with me here and I don't want to take too much more of your time, so.
1:30:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love me.
1:30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like what, thank you.
1:30:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for getting me out.
1:30:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, no, absolutely.
1:30:35
[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope to have you back on in the future.
1:30:38
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we can collaborate on a specific topic or have you back on for a round table episode and get your perspective on a particular topic.
1:30:50
[SPEAKER_03]: You're interested in, but as somebody who supports me on Patreon, you are always welcome as a guest.
1:30:57
[SPEAKER_03]: Especially someone is interesting as yourself with tons of stuff to talk about.
1:31:01
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, please touch and let me know if there's something else you want to come back on the show to talk about, but I love the synchronicities.
1:31:09
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the overlap and yeah, it's really fascinating.
1:31:12
[SPEAKER_03]: So aside from your poetry, your music, is there a place that you're currently working to direct people to?
1:31:22
[SPEAKER_03]: Because if not the band camp totally or soundclouds, totally cool, we're gonna
1:31:26
[SPEAKER_03]: Put the link in the description, but I just don't want to leave anything else out.
1:31:30
[SPEAKER_03]: Is there anything else you want to do?
1:31:31
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's only that's the only place where I've put it.
1:31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Music at least and then you know I have a block spot or a blocker they call it now the change that Which is more I mean it's open for everybody to see but it's mainly a nice Atlantic and that's for the written stuff the
1:31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: and that's blocked care and I think it's just also rolling down.
1:31:59
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, send me the link to that because now we can, you know, every browser has the translator and I'm sure, you know, it'll be mostly readable and there might be some words that don't translate, but I would love to take a look at that and then that way I can get some more notes for our next conversation because, yeah, there's plenty more to talk about and yeah, I've had a very long day.
1:32:21
[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, there's a little out of it, but I appreciate your wisdom and your perspective and
1:32:28
[SPEAKER_03]: crossing another country off our list of amazing people we have to.
1:32:32
[SPEAKER_03]: And to put a bow on it, I just came across another article that talks about greater Icelandia and how Iceland is potentially the tip of a lost sunken continent who knows maybe.
1:32:46
[SPEAKER_03]: New and emerging, maybe this is to your point, a new continent that's coming out of the Atlantic Ocean.
1:32:55
[SPEAKER_03]: So we definitely could call it
1:32:57
[SPEAKER_01]: could call it mid-year.
1:33:00
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
1:33:02
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, Ron.
1:33:05
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, John.
1:33:06
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, y'all, sir.
1:33:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you really much, brother.
1:33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take you with him.
1:33:09
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, thank you.
1:33:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Appreciate it.
1:33:12
[SPEAKER_03]: John, the pleasure is all mine.
1:33:13
[SPEAKER_03]: And for the audience listening, check the episode description for John's links.
1:33:20
[SPEAKER_03]: Rolling John, you're the man, appreciate you being like this here on the East Coast out to you across the murky Atlantic over there in Iceland and everybody tuning in.
1:33:33
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next episode until then, immerse yourself in the moment wherever you are in the now.
1:33:44
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, ladies and gentlemen, that was our conversation with Rolling John.
1:33:49
[SPEAKER_03]: A little bit of a stop and start throughout the conversation.
1:33:54
[SPEAKER_03]: The language barrier of course affected that.
1:33:57
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried my best to edit it.
1:34:00
[SPEAKER_03]: So that it would be a smoother listening experience.
1:34:04
[SPEAKER_03]: So trust me folks, if he didn't enjoy the flow of the conversation, it was much worse before I edited it.
1:34:13
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for bearing with me.
1:34:14
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for making it to me.
1:34:16
[SPEAKER_03]: And even if you're upset, I love you.
1:34:18
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate you and we'll do better next time.
1:34:22
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not easy when you interview somebody who doesn't speak English as their first language.
1:34:28
[SPEAKER_03]: If they're a second or third or fourth even English speaker, they're sort of
1:34:34
[SPEAKER_03]: In the moment, translations going on in their head, that doesn't always flow with a, you know, flowing conversation.
1:34:45
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not always conducive to a flowing conversation.
1:34:49
[SPEAKER_03]: Regardless, rolling John is the man.
1:34:52
[SPEAKER_03]: I might have mentioned this on the last outro, but I went
1:34:56
[SPEAKER_03]: On the raft with the hardened co-crew, this past Tuesday, what a blast it was to roll down the river on this big three-man raft.
1:35:06
[SPEAKER_03]: There's four of us in it at one point.
1:35:08
[SPEAKER_03]: We're paddling through white water rapids.
1:35:11
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing too crazy.
1:35:12
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what class they are, but they're probably...
1:35:17
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1:35:20
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