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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio.
- 0:03Speaker 2: My name is Brian.
- 0:04Speaker 3: I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining frame number
- 0:07Speaker 3: one seventy four. I am the law's I figured that's
- 0:14Speaker 3: what you were making a reference to when you gave
- 0:16Speaker 3: me that title.
- 0:18Speaker 4: Also the insanity in this video that we're going to
- 0:20Speaker 4: be covering today.
- 0:22Speaker 5: Yes, have you watched it yet?
- 0:24Speaker 2: No? I have not. I saw it going around.
- 0:26Speaker 3: I saw a lot of people talking about it, giving
- 0:28Speaker 3: their two cents, but I actually got it.
- 0:32Speaker 4: Essentially, Ryland's Special assesstant Devin Flanagan was told to leave
- 0:37Speaker 4: the premises. I don't know what happened prior to her
- 0:39Speaker 4: being told to leave.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a summary right here.
- 0:41Speaker 4: If you want me to read it, oh, go ahead
- 0:43Speaker 4: then say it.
- 0:44Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean I haven't seen the video, but
- 0:46Speaker 3: this is the story as I know it.
- 0:48Speaker 2: So.
- 0:50Speaker 3: On August fourteenth, Devin Hogan Flanagan, a special Assistant Attorney
- 0:55Speaker 3: General in Rhode Island, was arrested for willful trespassing outside
- 1:00Speaker 3: of the Clark cook House restaurant in Newport. The incident,
- 1:04Speaker 3: captured on police body camera footage, began when officers responding
- 1:08Speaker 3: around nine to fifty one PM to reports of a
- 1:10Speaker 3: quote unwanted party end quote at the restaurant, with indications
- 1:15Speaker 3: that alcohol was involved. Flanagan and her friend Veronica Hannon
- 1:19Speaker 3: were asked to leave the premises but refused, leading to
- 1:22Speaker 3: their arrests and the footage plan again repeatedly demanded that
- 1:26Speaker 3: officers turn off their body cameras, claiming it was a
- 1:28Speaker 3: protocol for a citizens' request, which was incorrect. Rhode Island's
- 1:32Speaker 3: body camera policy allows the activation only for victims or witnesses,
- 1:37Speaker 3: not suspects.
- 1:38Speaker 4: Yeah, which honestly, they probably shouldn't allow either to suspects,
- 1:46Speaker 4: not for victims or for anybody involved.
- 1:51Speaker 2: They shouldn't. They should have liked camera.
- 1:54Speaker 4: They shouldn't allow people to just request that the cameras
- 1:57Speaker 4: get turned off.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.
- 2:00Speaker 4: Not for anyone, because the thing is that this is
- 2:04Speaker 4: this is the police's line of defense against false accusations. Sorry, boy,
- 2:09Speaker 4: Cat is just on a tear today. She got sick
- 2:14Speaker 4: and I'm not sure why. Maybe another vet appointment is
- 2:17Speaker 4: an order. And now she has just decided that she
- 2:21Speaker 4: wants to go crazy and absorb my time and throw
- 2:26Speaker 4: things off of things as cats do, but hopefully she'll
- 2:30Speaker 4: be okay. I mean, she certainly is energetic, so it
- 2:33Speaker 4: might just be a cat thing periodically. They just feel
- 2:36Speaker 4: like they need to purge as as cat owners know.
- 2:39Speaker 4: But yeah, so sorry for the for the cat based
- 2:41Speaker 4: shenanigans in the background. But yeah, this is I don't
- 2:45Speaker 4: think they should be able to I don't think they should.
- 2:47Speaker 4: There should be a situation in which anybody should be
- 2:49Speaker 4: should be able to request the police stop filming, because
- 2:53Speaker 4: that is their defense against false accusations. And if you don't,
- 2:58Speaker 4: if you don't let them have a defense, then you know,
- 3:02Speaker 4: because honestly, you know. And this is gonna sound like
- 3:05Speaker 4: I'm defending the police, and I think they deserve some
- 3:07Speaker 4: defense considering how much they have to deal with. But
- 3:11Speaker 4: like that, we we have this the general public, I
- 3:15Speaker 4: don't think we have as much trust in the police
- 3:17Speaker 4: as in the past, so that that's a situation for
- 3:21Speaker 4: at least the good officers getting a false being much
- 3:24Speaker 4: more exposed to false accusations, and it just keeps everybody honest, right.
- 3:30Speaker 2: For everybody though, Yeah.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Exactly so, But that's my opinion on that. Let's get
- 3:35Speaker 4: shall I do the things?
- 3:36Speaker 1: Sorry, we'll get into this all right.
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- 4:33Speaker 4: shall we just get into the video.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go ahead and get into the video. Let
- 4:38Speaker 2: me just gues us ready.
- 4:39Speaker 3: So this is a post i X shared by Colin Rugg.
- 4:42Speaker 3: So let's i guess we'll just let the video speak
- 4:45Speaker 3: for itself.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Let me tell you how we do this. Which one
- 4:49Speaker 2: of them? Is it the woman in the pink? Is
- 4:51Speaker 2: that plan again?
- 4:52Speaker 4: Just take a look.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is.
- 4:56Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
- 4:57Speaker 4: By the way, guys, the the throwing things off was
- 5:02Speaker 4: strategic because what she was throwing off was her treats,
- 5:07Speaker 4: and I hadn't properly tightened the lid, so I had
- 5:10Speaker 4: to pick up a whole bunch just now off the floor.
- 5:13Speaker 4: Very clever, very clever.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Yeah, clever girl.
- 5:18Speaker 4: All right, yep, that's her belligerent drunk. But the thing
- 5:22Speaker 4: is that I wanted to talk about is watch what
- 5:25Speaker 4: happens with the guy the husband?
- 5:28Speaker 5: Is he a husband?
- 5:29Speaker 1: He said?
- 5:30Speaker 3: He said, he said he was her husband in the video. Yeah,
- 5:34Speaker 3: but let's go back and listen again.
- 5:36Speaker 4: Yeah, let's listen again.
- 5:40Speaker 1: Let's just lea, let's just make it.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Oh, he's her husband. I think he's playing.
- 5:47Speaker 4: Essentially, the restaurant has requested they leave, probably because they
- 5:51Speaker 4: were engaged in a ruckus of some kind or description for.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Being disruptive in some way.
- 5:58Speaker 4: Yeah, and now the police have been called because apparently
- 6:02Speaker 4: they were refusing to leave the premises and the police
- 6:07Speaker 4: are attempting to get them to leave, and we believe
- 6:11Speaker 4: the one in pink is the assistant Attorney.
- 6:16Speaker 2: General, special assistant Attorney.
- 6:19Speaker 4: General, especially Devin Flanagin.
- 6:25Speaker 5: And then the one in the white.
- 6:27Speaker 4: Is her friend from college, and the man is her
- 6:32Speaker 4: very unfortunate husband.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's always in you know. We we watched
- 6:40Speaker 3: Lindsay and I like to watch over dinner. We watch
- 6:44Speaker 3: these body cam videos on YouTube. There's a lot of them,
- 6:47Speaker 3: and there are really a lot of videos with like
- 6:50Speaker 3: women being crazy and the police, and they're a lot
- 6:54Speaker 3: of fun. They could be good for reactions, just saying
- 6:57Speaker 3: there's a lot of like there's a lot of good
- 7:00Speaker 3: meat on.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Those bones for the lulls though mostly and not all.
- 7:05Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of rednecks like Hicks and stuff,
- 7:08Speaker 3: but not not really. There's also a lot of like
- 7:10Speaker 3: city people, immigrants, like kids at party, hard like college girls,
- 7:16Speaker 3: stuff like that too. So like, I like that this
- 7:18Speaker 3: guy is like trying to be reasonable, like Okay, let's
- 7:21Speaker 3: all go somewhere and talk, and she's like, your protocol
- 7:24Speaker 3: is this is what you're supposed to be doing.
- 7:26Speaker 5: Yeah, you're not a victim.
- 7:28Speaker 6: He's the suspect of pausing.
- 7:30Speaker 4: A ruckus not this, this is a special assistant to
- 7:38Speaker 4: a district attorney. This is such childish behavior like this
- 7:44Speaker 4: is this is something that maybe, like I don't think
- 7:46Speaker 4: that that women going to college should engage in behavior
- 7:50Speaker 4: like this, like, but of course they do.
- 7:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 7:56Speaker 4: And the other problem is that, Yeah, maybe I don't
- 7:59Speaker 4: know if I've seen in a special assistant to Attorney
- 8:02Speaker 4: general who's male doing this kind of thing.
- 8:04Speaker 5: I don't even know. I think that that's not. That
- 8:06Speaker 5: sort of smacks of.
- 8:07Speaker 4: An avocado toast job. Yeah, like I'm smelling the.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Avocado a job where there's pickleball in the office.
- 8:18Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, so I'm not so sure what's going
- 8:22Speaker 4: on with that, But yeah, that's a she's not She certainly.
- 8:29Speaker 5: Isn't behaving in a way.
- 8:30Speaker 4: In a way befitting the dignity of the office. Shall
- 8:34Speaker 4: we say? All right, let's uh but yeah, her her
- 8:37Speaker 4: husband's trying to in some ways, but then in other
- 8:40Speaker 4: ways not in other ways. He's definitely an enable enabler.
- 8:45Speaker 4: And we'll get to that. So let's let's listen to
- 8:47Speaker 4: a bit more.
- 8:47Speaker 7: All right.
- 8:48Speaker 1: If you want to trust anything we can do, I
- 8:51Speaker 1: just need.
- 8:54Speaker 7: No, I'm not.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I know your.
- 9:02Speaker 8: Drunk.
- 9:03Speaker 2: He's ripped, dude.
- 9:05Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not.
- 9:07Speaker 2: I know.
- 9:08Speaker 3: You know when they start talking like that. Yeah, and
- 9:13Speaker 3: to get nasally and the bird hands come out.
- 9:16Speaker 2: She's drunk.
- 9:18Speaker 5: And belligerent. You didn't didn't inform me. You didn't inform
- 9:24Speaker 5: me of the charges against me? Trespass? Go I just
- 9:28Speaker 5: informed you.
- 9:31Speaker 4: Oh god, she's rules lawyering the hell out of this situation.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Let's see its hold on, I'm just checking something. All right,
- 9:40Speaker 2: here we go, let's go, we gotta go.
- 9:43Speaker 1: We got because you.
- 9:47Speaker 4: Turn off the body can turn does she just automatically
- 9:51Speaker 4: consider herself.
- 9:53Speaker 3: She's a lawyer, so she knows. Look at that smile
- 9:57Speaker 3: got them that's.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Okay, this, this is this. I hope she ends up
- 10:03Speaker 4: with some kind of suspension because this is an abuse
- 10:06Speaker 4: of her office. Really like, okay, well, I mean it
- 10:09Speaker 4: gets a little bit worse, but let's keep going.
- 10:11Speaker 2: All right, so that's not true, so we got to
- 10:15Speaker 2: go it is.
- 10:16Speaker 4: That's that's all.
- 10:19Speaker 9: For you.
- 10:20Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 10:21Speaker 5: You're not an attorney general.
- 10:24Speaker 1: We're there's a police.
- 10:28Speaker 5: You're not obeying.
- 10:31Speaker 4: What Well, there's the police, and they're not obeying the police.
- 10:36Speaker 4: They're giving them an order. They're saying, you are trespassing.
- 10:39Speaker 7: Leave.
- 10:40Speaker 1: Don't be a lawyer.
- 10:41Speaker 4: Lawyer, she's the attorney general.
- 10:47Speaker 2: She is.
- 10:48Speaker 4: No, she's a special assistant.
- 10:52Speaker 1: That's like she gets.
- 10:53Speaker 4: Is she gonna get hit with impersonating an attorney general? No?
- 10:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Probably not.
- 11:02Speaker 4: Let's let's go, okay, go back a bit. This was
- 11:08Speaker 4: this is one of the things that I thought was
- 11:10Speaker 4: was really relevant to what we have to say. We'll
- 11:14Speaker 4: just be quiet, listen to what the guy, listen to
- 11:16Speaker 4: what the cops says, and then listen to what the
- 11:19Speaker 4: husband says.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Okay, let's oh.
- 11:23Speaker 4: No, you have to go back further about thirty seconds. Yeah, okay,
- 11:26Speaker 4: a little bit further.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, here we go. Can you I ask
- 11:31Speaker 1: you to.
- 11:31Speaker 4: Turn off the body? Can you have to turn it off?
- 11:33Speaker 4: And that's she's a lawyer, so she knows, well, that's
- 11:37Speaker 4: lawyer stuff.
- 11:38Speaker 2: So that's not true. So we gotta go.
- 11:40Speaker 4: No it is. That's that's all I'm an. I'm an aging.
- 11:44Speaker 1: Good for you.
- 11:45Speaker 2: Let's go, we're going put your hands off.
- 11:53Speaker 5: Did you see what?
- 11:54Speaker 4: Okay, stop? Did you hear what the police said? He
- 11:57Speaker 4: turned to the man, the husband, and could you get
- 12:00Speaker 4: your children out of here?
- 12:02Speaker 3: Yes, yes, of course, I wasn't sure if there were
- 12:05Speaker 3: actually children around.
- 12:06Speaker 4: But he's referring to these women. He's saying to the dude,
- 12:12Speaker 4: can you get your children out of here? And hear
- 12:15Speaker 4: that's a lot when cops are dealing with couples and
- 12:18Speaker 4: the woman is completely out of control, they'll turn to
- 12:22Speaker 4: the guy and they'll be like, can you get your
- 12:23Speaker 4: woman under control? Some of it is not very What
- 12:30Speaker 4: control do these men really have over these women?
- 12:32Speaker 7: Right?
- 12:32Speaker 4: Often? Like what are they actually going to do? But
- 12:35Speaker 4: I think that part of it is the cop is
- 12:37Speaker 4: going to the person who's related to the one who's
- 12:40Speaker 4: causing the trouble and seeing if they can reason with
- 12:43Speaker 4: the one who's reasonable to try to get the other
- 12:46Speaker 4: one under control the out of the hopes that I
- 12:48Speaker 4: don't know, their affection or their familiarity with their husband
- 12:53Speaker 4: or their boyfriend will cause them to actually listen to them.
- 12:56Speaker 4: Good luck with that.
- 12:58Speaker 5: But I just find that interesting.
- 12:59Speaker 4: It's that I see that so often that the cops
- 13:03Speaker 4: treat the man in the situation as the reasonable party
- 13:08Speaker 4: to try to get women under control. And I'm guessing
- 13:12Speaker 4: that it's because cops are actually responding to something that
- 13:15Speaker 4: does in fact exist, an issue that does in fact exist,
- 13:21Speaker 4: which is like that, which is that men in these
- 13:24Speaker 4: situations are presenting.
- 13:26Speaker 5: Themselves as more reasonable.
- 13:27Speaker 4: They're less likely to start a you know this is
- 13:30Speaker 4: always with women, well not always, but to start this
- 13:34Speaker 4: kind of dominance fight, like swinging their weight around and
- 13:38Speaker 4: trying to say, oh, you don't have any control over me.
- 13:42Speaker 4: Men in these circumstances we watched I've watched a lot
- 13:45Speaker 4: of this body footage, which, incidentally, if you want to
- 13:47Speaker 4: abuse yourself of the notion that women are sugar and
- 13:51Speaker 4: spice and everything nice, watch cop body cam footage because
- 13:56Speaker 4: some of it's horrifying.
- 13:57Speaker 5: And what women do.
- 14:00Speaker 4: And but it's just interesting that this, this is the
- 14:03Speaker 4: this is I only ever see. I never see a
- 14:05Speaker 4: cop go over to a woman and say, hey, can
- 14:07Speaker 4: you get your man under control? Usually because I never
- 14:10Speaker 4: really see that happening. But also I don't think that
- 14:14Speaker 4: there's that expectation that women take responsibility for men's behavior
- 14:18Speaker 4: in the way that there's an expectation that men take
- 14:21Speaker 4: responsibility for women's behavior. But anyway, I just wanted to
- 14:24Speaker 4: point that out because I thought it's relevant.
- 14:25Speaker 5: To our interests.
- 14:27Speaker 4: But also, and also it's relevant to the whole Cops
- 14:32Speaker 4: under the boot of feminists have made men take responsibility
- 14:36Speaker 4: for being abused by women. So I mean, I think
- 14:39Speaker 4: that ties in there. But so the cop has said,
- 14:43Speaker 4: can you get rid or can you can you do
- 14:47Speaker 4: something about your kid?
- 14:48Speaker 5: Your children?
- 14:49Speaker 4: Right to the husband and this, let's listen to what
- 14:52Speaker 4: the husband says.
- 14:53Speaker 3: Okay, So there are two full, full grown women like
- 14:56Speaker 3: does he is he like white nighting?
- 14:58Speaker 2: Now? Yes, call them that.
- 15:01Speaker 3: They're They're drunk and belligerent and childish, and they're arguing
- 15:06Speaker 3: with police and disrupting this beastro and these people that
- 15:09Speaker 3: are trying to have a decent meal, a succulent Chinese meal.
- 15:13Speaker 2: But they're grown women. They're nice.
- 15:16Speaker 4: Try guy, Yeah, nice try Yeah.
- 15:19Speaker 5: Unfortunately this went viral for.
- 15:21Speaker 1: All to see, but yeah, doing that for her. I
- 15:24Speaker 1: talked to the guy.
- 15:24Speaker 3: I told him she's a grown woman. Parking lot the
- 15:30Speaker 3: guy secretly parking lot Batman. We just don't know it yet.
- 15:33Speaker 4: He's uh, he's a parking lot Bruce Wayne.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Yes, parking lot Bruce Wayne.
- 15:39Speaker 4: Those of you don't know. Parking lot Batman was. He
- 15:44Speaker 4: was part of the of a.
- 15:47Speaker 5: Get your heads and.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Some talking like that. It was like the old Christian
- 15:51Speaker 2: Vale bat woman.
- 15:52Speaker 4: Was going completely bonkers and some other dude was kind
- 15:55Speaker 4: of restrainer, and parking lot bat man schles in from
- 15:58Speaker 4: the shadows and says, get your hands over.
- 16:05Speaker 5: But yeah, that was that was a long time ago.
- 16:07Speaker 4: But yeah, this is this is the new iteration of
- 16:09Speaker 4: parking lot batman. The cops say, could you get rid
- 16:12Speaker 4: of your children? And the man says they have children
- 16:17Speaker 4: their mothers with chill. Oh god, that's terrifying the fact
- 16:21Speaker 4: that he says they're mother's with children. I'm guessing that
- 16:23Speaker 4: he's not the father of any of them.
- 16:25Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, let's keep going.
- 16:28Speaker 6: My child, No, you're not, special assistant's probably responsible for
- 16:38Speaker 6: the age.
- 16:39Speaker 4: He's avocado.
- 16:41Speaker 8: Okay, what Why isn't being arrested?
- 16:54Speaker 4: Sir?
- 16:56Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 16:57Speaker 4: Why isn't she being arrested? She's been requested to leave,
- 17:00Speaker 4: she's trespassed, you have come. Why aren't you arresting her
- 17:04Speaker 4: at this point? Yeah, Like, why isn't she not Why
- 17:07Speaker 4: is she not being charged with what? And a man
- 17:11Speaker 4: probably would have been tased by.
- 17:12Speaker 2: Now uh yeah maybe I I yeah, maybe.
- 17:20Speaker 4: Let me tell you. Let me tell you something.
- 17:26Speaker 3: There's another guy that stepped up and tried to what
- 17:28Speaker 3: was that like parking lot Robin the accreditation, let me go,
- 17:33Speaker 3: get her badge from the car, her innocence, and then
- 17:37Speaker 3: the let her go so she can continue to be belligerent.
- 17:41Speaker 1: That doesn't matter, bro, That doesn't matter.
- 17:45Speaker 3: All right anyway, even though Miranda writes reading that, man,
- 17:49Speaker 3: I think they're just detaining her temporarily.
- 17:51Speaker 2: That's that's all.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe they're just moving her down.
- 17:53Speaker 3: I mean like the yeah, like the the the establishment
- 17:56Speaker 3: at the restaurant.
- 17:57Speaker 2: They probably just wanted.
- 17:58Speaker 3: Her gone off the pen exactly because anyway, does anybody
- 18:02Speaker 3: know if she's an a G She keeps saying it,
- 18:05Speaker 3: but no not. She is a special assistant Attorney general special.
- 18:13Speaker 3: She is the she is the assistant to the attorney
- 18:17Speaker 3: a special assistant, so that might even be an assistant
- 18:20Speaker 3: to the assistant Attorney general. Like she waters the plants
- 18:25Speaker 3: in the office.
- 18:29Speaker 2: She has one of those fake, made up jobs that
- 18:31Speaker 2: all the women get.
- 18:32Speaker 5: All right, let's let's keep going.
- 18:36Speaker 1: She was, in mid sentence slams the door. You're gonna
- 18:40Speaker 1: regret that?
- 18:41Speaker 2: What is that?
- 18:43Speaker 3: I'll be what flying Monkeys's like some villain ship, you know,
- 18:49Speaker 3: it's like the Kingpin.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Okay, this is.
- 18:53Speaker 4: The villain villain origin story on the streets tomorrow. A
- 18:59Speaker 4: no know, what would be a good villain name for her?
- 19:03Speaker 1: Oh?
- 19:04Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 19:05Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll think about.
- 19:06Speaker 1: What's her name? Mh Evan Devin. That's is that a
- 19:10Speaker 1: girl's name?
- 19:12Speaker 2: All right?
- 19:13Speaker 1: Anyway?
- 19:13Speaker 4: Now, yeah, it continues.
- 19:21Speaker 1: The license and.
- 19:22Speaker 3: No, yeah, I know, but like she doesn't really have
- 19:28Speaker 3: a chance. So it's like, what is this just like
- 19:32Speaker 3: a show of what defiance?
- 19:34Speaker 9: Like?
- 19:34Speaker 4: Okay, So she was arrested, apparently facing charges of wilful trespath,
- 19:38Speaker 4: disorderly conduct, and resisting arrest.
- 19:41Speaker 3: So there were charges, although again I don't I don't
- 19:44Speaker 3: know that the if they would have just left when
- 19:47Speaker 3: the cops showed up, I would, I guarantee you the
- 19:50Speaker 3: restaurant probably wouldn't have pressed charges. They would have just
- 19:53Speaker 3: been like, okay, you're just gone now, you know, because
- 19:55Speaker 3: the paperwork is a pain in the ass if you
- 19:57Speaker 3: run a business to do that. But now the state's
- 19:59Speaker 3: gonna basically, you know, follow up.
- 20:02Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And of course I doubt that she's going
- 20:06Speaker 4: to be suspended from her job. For this absolute level
- 20:10Speaker 4: of bullshit.
- 20:11Speaker 5: Yep, yeah, this is yeah. So she's good.
- 20:16Speaker 4: Good, she's actually being charged for something. So she has
- 20:18Speaker 4: been arrested.
- 20:19Speaker 1: What is she like an escape artist? She got out
- 20:20Speaker 1: of the handcuffs.
- 20:22Speaker 2: Wow.
- 20:23Speaker 1: That that's not good though, that's not good.
- 20:26Speaker 3: I don't know where do these women think that they
- 20:28Speaker 3: can just do this ship like it's crazy.
- 20:33Speaker 4: Out now she's doing I'm scared ship?
- 20:39Speaker 7: Yeah, fire, No, right here, what's wrong with you?
- 20:51Speaker 2: I don't want to hol you in handcuffs?
- 20:52Speaker 4: Let's go, let's go.
- 20:56Speaker 1: You're overreacting.
- 20:57Speaker 4: You're adding because they're used to throwing a tantrum and
- 21:01Speaker 4: getting their way.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Yeah, you're overreacting.
- 21:06Speaker 3: I think there's something in the Feminist Manifesto about that,
- 21:09Speaker 3: like that. You can't you can't tell women to calm down.
- 21:14Speaker 4: So manygressions.
- 21:16Speaker 3: Yeah, this is just this is just shock full of sexism.
- 21:19Speaker 2: I wonder if there isn't going to be a movement
- 21:21Speaker 2: that comes out of this.
- 21:22Speaker 3: I'm telling you is gonna come out, you know.
- 21:28Speaker 1: Yeah, how dare you?
- 21:32Speaker 3: Hashtag? We are all the ag? Yeah, all women are
- 21:37Speaker 3: the ag. Now, well, they're all going to be feeling this.
- 21:39Speaker 2: I've been there.
- 21:40Speaker 1: I feel that mm hmm, No, that's up.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Wow, this is amazing.
- 21:59Speaker 3: And she's she's getting angry at her husband for not,
- 22:03Speaker 3: I guess, like throwing his life away fighting off the
- 22:06Speaker 3: police so that she doesn't get arrested for like a
- 22:08Speaker 3: for these misdemeanors.
- 22:10Speaker 1: She wants him to escalate. This is crazy, you see
- 22:13Speaker 1: that right when she.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Screams, babe, babe, babe, she's saying, why aren't you doing
- 22:18Speaker 3: anything to save me?
- 22:20Speaker 2: Why aren't you putting your life at risk? Right now?
- 22:23Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what she's saying, right, that's the crazy thing
- 22:26Speaker 3: that I'm seeing here.
- 22:27Speaker 2: And of course he's like, I'm right here.
- 22:29Speaker 3: Like he doesn't know what to do, Like he probably
- 22:32Speaker 3: thinks he should do something otherwise he's gonna, like, you know,
- 22:36Speaker 3: catch it later. But obviously she's in the wrong, and
- 22:40Speaker 3: so instead he just says, I'm right here.
- 22:42Speaker 2: It's it's cool. Do you hear my voice? You know?
- 22:45Speaker 2: Like that?
- 22:45Speaker 3: I think that's just desperation. He's he's this guy's fucked.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Bro. You need to get out of there now, homie. Okay,
- 22:52Speaker 2: but anyway, court, the.
- 22:59Speaker 4: Court, this is so inappropriate.
- 23:03Speaker 3: Guys, good lord, Yeah, this is what happens when you
- 23:12Speaker 3: when you create the most safe society for women, and
- 23:18Speaker 3: then they went into some adversity or just consequences for
- 23:21Speaker 3: their own behavior, and they are not prepared, like they
- 23:24Speaker 3: have no idea how to behave This is insane.
- 23:29Speaker 4: And the adversity is just treating other human beings like
- 23:32Speaker 4: they exist. Yeah, but the thing is they go through
- 23:36Speaker 4: a whole bunch of stuff like I'm afraid, I'm afraid,
- 23:40Speaker 4: and so they're constructing a threat.
- 23:43Speaker 5: Narrative around this arrest that.
- 23:46Speaker 4: It's some horrible oppression of them, when it's just basically
- 23:51Speaker 4: like they made this worse than it worse than it
- 23:53Speaker 4: had to be at any point in time they could
- 23:57Speaker 4: have just de escalated. And this is a freaking special
- 24:01Speaker 4: assistant to a district attorney who has absolutely no deal
- 24:04Speaker 4: escalation skills. Of course, she's that drunk, but again, if
- 24:08Speaker 4: you're if you are an adult, get that drunk in
- 24:10Speaker 4: your own home. You don't take it out into the public.
- 24:14Speaker 4: You're gonna get that drunk, Like she is responsible for
- 24:17Speaker 4: getting herself that drunk. She's really doing er shenand against
- 24:21Speaker 4: the like this, and then and then escalating and escalating
- 24:26Speaker 4: and escalating, and when the cops went to her husband
- 24:30Speaker 4: and said could you get rid get move your children.
- 24:33Speaker 4: Instead of the husband saying you're absolutely right, sir, grabbing
- 24:38Speaker 4: those two women and dragging them down the street if necessary,
- 24:43Speaker 4: he defended their honor by saying, they're two grown women. Well,
- 24:47Speaker 4: they certainly aren't acting like it, and you could have
- 24:51Speaker 4: actually saved them some serious issues like charges, you know,
- 24:56Speaker 4: going to jail for resisting arrest by simple saying yeah,
- 25:01Speaker 4: you're right, your officer, they're acting like children and telling
- 25:04Speaker 4: her and then moving her along. I mean she he's
- 25:06Speaker 4: not really responsible for her in any capacity, But instead
- 25:11Speaker 4: he white knights her and enables her, and enables that
- 25:15Speaker 4: whole narrative in which she is the victim of how
- 25:18Speaker 4: these cops are treating her. They're disrespecting the ag did
- 25:22Speaker 4: you see that? And that's not just you know, not
- 25:26Speaker 4: just not taking responsibility for her behavior and saying, Okay,
- 25:29Speaker 4: I think you've had enough, honey, let's just walk down
- 25:33Speaker 4: the street away from the people who want you to.
- 25:35Speaker 5: Leave them alone.
- 25:37Speaker 4: Instead of doing that, he actually rubber steps. He validates
- 25:41Speaker 4: her feelings of prosecution persecution by saying, oh, yeah, they
- 25:45Speaker 4: shouldn't have said.
- 25:46Speaker 5: You were This is a grown woman.
- 25:49Speaker 4: You are disrespecting her. You're disrespecting her, man, I'm an ag.
- 25:55Speaker 2: There's some good memes here, there's some good means here.
- 25:58Speaker 3: And she asks always the women, all the young ones
- 26:01Speaker 3: who are the most bigoted adherents of the party, the
- 26:03Speaker 3: swallowers of slogans, the amateur spies, the age.
- 26:09Speaker 4: But yes, every stage, every step of this, she escalated
- 26:15Speaker 4: over and over and over again, like yeah, and she
- 26:21Speaker 4: is now the face of the Rhode Island Attorney General
- 26:25Speaker 4: problem or problem. Yeah, probably a problem Attorney General office
- 26:31Speaker 4: because this went viral. And although she was going to
- 26:33Speaker 4: be charged, probably not gonna spend any time in jail.
- 26:35Speaker 5: She's probably just going to.
- 26:36Speaker 4: Do community service. And I don't think she's going to
- 26:39Speaker 4: be suspended from her job for this behavior, this public behavior.
- 26:45Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure a man would.
- 26:46Speaker 1: Be, though, Yeah, for sure, for sure.
- 26:49Speaker 4: Suspended, you know, and put on some kind of probation
- 26:54Speaker 4: pending alcohol, like going to some drug rehabilitation or something like.
- 27:01Speaker 5: You wouldn't be getting away with this.
- 27:04Speaker 4: To this degree. In fact, I'm pretty sure at one
- 27:06Speaker 4: point that it'd be that kind of behavior.
- 27:09Speaker 5: He would be He would.
- 27:11Speaker 4: Be restrained much more forcibly and possibly tasted like this
- 27:15Speaker 4: is and again, all she did was escalate like a child.
- 27:19Speaker 4: All she did was throw her weight around. All she
- 27:22Speaker 4: did was was play out her ego and demand respect.
- 27:25Speaker 4: And her husband was enabling that behavior, enabling it. Instead
- 27:33Speaker 4: of telling him her you're going too far, you're embarrassing yourself.
- 27:38Speaker 4: That might actually get through, get through to a woman.
- 27:41Speaker 4: You are embarrassing yourself, right, nobody wants to see your
- 27:45Speaker 4: ass right now, we're just going to walk away like
- 27:48Speaker 4: adults from this establishment has asked us to leave. You know,
- 27:54Speaker 4: if he had done that, he might have spared her
- 27:57Speaker 4: all of this. Instead, he enabled her. And it's not,
- 28:00Speaker 4: like I said, it's not on him or is it
- 28:03Speaker 4: because he's simping.
- 28:04Speaker 2: Well, it's no.
- 28:05Speaker 3: I don't think it should be his responsibility, but he
- 28:09Speaker 3: is taking it on and I think, you know, I
- 28:13Speaker 3: don't know, I think.
- 28:14Speaker 4: On some responsibility, like he took on the responsibility of
- 28:18Speaker 4: making it worse by enabling her sense of disrespect.
- 28:22Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, I get it. I would have
- 28:24Speaker 3: been like, we're leaving, But I don't think that. I
- 28:26Speaker 3: don't think that this is uh. I don't think this
- 28:29Speaker 3: guy wears the pants and I know that that like
- 28:31Speaker 3: that's what I think anyway, these these people are probably
- 28:34Speaker 3: pretty like shitty to him or they run everything. It's
- 28:38Speaker 3: like Bridezilla's Ye. I know, objectively it isn't his responsibility,
- 28:42Speaker 3: but I'm saying that these guys take this on. They
- 28:45Speaker 3: make it their problem. So but they shouldn't like he
- 28:49Speaker 3: shouldn't be doing that, but he is doing that.
- 28:53Speaker 4: Well, Okay, what he is doing is enabling her. Yeah,
- 28:58Speaker 4: and that in enabling is making the situation worse. It's
- 29:03Speaker 4: not entirely his fault because it's you know, it's on
- 29:06Speaker 4: her that she's spiraling into this nonsense, but he is
- 29:11Speaker 4: giving her a springboard to do so.
- 29:13Speaker 5: And I don't know, maybe after the fact.
- 29:15Speaker 4: He's saying, oh, you were just you were disrespected. They
- 29:20Speaker 4: didn't give you the respect you were do as a
- 29:22Speaker 4: women and an ag you know that.
- 29:25Speaker 5: Kind of thing.
- 29:27Speaker 4: I can't imagine that the dynamics and these kinds of relationships.
- 29:31Speaker 5: But all right, So that's that was that.
- 29:35Speaker 4: I because I'm a feeling really not very well, I
- 29:39Speaker 4: figured we do like a little bit of a.
- 29:43Speaker 5: Yeah, short, one little chode of a show for.
- 29:47Speaker 2: The I have something else that's also short that we
- 29:50Speaker 2: could react.
- 29:50Speaker 4: Okay, we could look at that.
- 29:52Speaker 2: All right, So I want to show you this because
- 29:53Speaker 2: I think this is pretty great.
- 29:55Speaker 10: Uh.
- 29:55Speaker 2: This was shared by the ten Men.
- 29:59Speaker 3: This is okay Anna Kasparian, who you know, some people
- 30:02Speaker 3: might say she's on a redemption arc. I don't really know.
- 30:05Speaker 3: I got a super chat from Derek Workman. Thank you, Derek.
- 30:07Speaker 2: He says, I am betting she abuses him for ten dollars. Yeah.
- 30:10Speaker 3: I was thinking that he might be like a hen
- 30:12Speaker 3: pecked husband or something. Anyway, this is annaka Sparian and
- 30:15Speaker 3: she's talking to Joe Rogan and this might cause some rage,
- 30:20Speaker 3: but I want you guys to listen to this. I'm
- 30:22Speaker 3: not going to spoil anything.
- 30:24Speaker 9: I think that men's rights activists do have really good
- 30:27Speaker 9: points when it comes to the prosecution of men versus women.
- 30:31Speaker 9: I mean, if you look specifically at pedophilia, right, or
- 30:34Speaker 9: if you look at a male teacher in his thirties
- 30:37Speaker 9: having sex with a fourteen or fifteen year old student
- 30:39Speaker 9: versus a female teacher in her thirties having sex with
- 30:42Speaker 9: like a fourteen or fifteen year old male student. I
- 30:44Speaker 9: know you're gonna disagree with me. You're gonna be like, well, yeah,
- 30:46Speaker 9: the boy wanted it the boy wanted.
- 30:48Speaker 1: I know, I'm going to disagree with you. It's not possible.
- 30:51Speaker 1: This is what I mean.
- 30:52Speaker 10: I have a joke about it.
- 30:53Speaker 8: Oh good, okay, but a grown woman.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Yeah see, he made a joke about it, Alison. That
- 30:59Speaker 3: mean it's not possible. Jokes is based on word.
- 31:03Speaker 1: But let's okay inside here, yes I am too. I
- 31:09Speaker 1: guess what what?
- 31:10Speaker 4: What is this world joke?
- 31:13Speaker 2: But Joe's always been wrong about this ship. He's always
- 31:16Speaker 2: been wrong about it.
- 31:17Speaker 3: He doesn't ever like like there's a reason why he
- 31:21Speaker 3: ended up never getting Karen on.
- 31:25Speaker 1: For a while.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Karen was going to be on there.
- 31:26Speaker 3: But no, but let's listen, because he says, look, I
- 31:31Speaker 3: told a joke about it.
- 31:31Speaker 2: That that's basically data. Uh let's let's hear what he says, I.
- 31:35Speaker 1: Have a joke about it.
- 31:37Speaker 10: A man can malast a fourteen year old girl, but
- 31:40Speaker 10: a grown woman can't really molest a fourteen year old boy.
- 31:43Speaker 10: She can only let him fuck her.
- 31:45Speaker 1: It's just it's not the same.
- 31:47Speaker 10: Like the boy's gonna be okay, he really is. I
- 31:50Speaker 10: mean he'll be a little confusing first standard.
- 31:53Speaker 4: Okay, stop, No, the boy is not going to be
- 31:58Speaker 4: okay all right, And I hate that people say this,
- 32:02Speaker 4: and I have to always appeal to this, this statistic
- 32:05Speaker 4: or this study. It's a longitudinal study on abused boys,
- 32:10Speaker 4: sexually abused boys and who ended up to go on
- 32:13Speaker 4: to become a predator of other And when you're a kid,
- 32:16Speaker 4: you tend to prey on other kids, right, The single.
- 32:21Speaker 5: Biggest causal factor.
- 32:23Speaker 4: For an abused boy to go on to abuse others.
- 32:25Speaker 4: I'm doing the bird hands. I'm really sorry, guys, I
- 32:27Speaker 4: need to do that. What's the trump hands? What's the
- 32:29Speaker 4: trump hands?
- 32:30Speaker 2: Like this?
- 32:31Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, okay, that's what they say.
- 32:34Speaker 2: That's what they say.
- 32:36Speaker 4: That's what they say. Okay, I'll try to do the
- 32:39Speaker 4: trump hands instead of the bird hands. Maybe the bird
- 32:41Speaker 4: hands is like it's coming out of my ex chromosome.
- 32:44Speaker 7: I don't know.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Anyway, you can do the Italian hands.
- 32:47Speaker 2: You can just like you know, yeah, like that.
- 32:50Speaker 4: The jazz bands, not the jazz hands.
- 32:53Speaker 5: Okay.
- 32:53Speaker 4: So in the study, they followed boys who had been abused,
- 32:58Speaker 4: and they found that the single biggest causal factor for
- 33:02Speaker 4: going on to abuse others. And this is the biggest
- 33:05Speaker 4: causal factor. That doesn't mean that every abused boy went
- 33:08Speaker 4: to go on to abuse others. In fact, it was
- 33:10Speaker 4: only ten percent. The single biggest causal factor was having
- 33:15Speaker 4: been sexually abused by an adult woman as a young
- 33:19Speaker 4: team exactly this scenario. So this is the scenario that
- 33:24Speaker 4: is most likely to cause a young man to become
- 33:30Speaker 4: a rapist of adult women or a predator of other people. Right,
- 33:34Speaker 4: So yes, this has a huge effect psychologically. And again
- 33:39Speaker 4: that's just a percentage. That's just ten percent of the
- 33:41Speaker 4: boys who are abused like that. The rest implode, like
- 33:45Speaker 4: most men implode, They become suicidal, they go into drugs,
- 33:49Speaker 4: they fail out of society. Right, they have all kinds
- 33:53Speaker 4: of symptoms of severe psychological trauma that caused them to
- 33:58Speaker 4: have a great number of difficulty. So this is absolute
- 34:02Speaker 4: bullshit that he's saying. He's talking from out his ass
- 34:06Speaker 4: and he hasn't done the research. And you're right, this
- 34:10Speaker 4: is probably one reason why he didn't have Karen on
- 34:13Speaker 4: because Karen has done the research. So that is And
- 34:16Speaker 4: the funny thing is is one of the creepiest stories
- 34:21Speaker 4: I've ever seen related to this was a man was
- 34:24Speaker 4: talking about sexual assault. It was in one of those
- 34:27Speaker 4: threads where guys were talking about sexual assault and having
- 34:30Speaker 4: been assaulted by women. I think it was on a
- 34:32Speaker 4: Twitter thread, or it might No, it wasn't a Reddit thread.
- 34:35Speaker 4: It was a Twitter thread, so it's more anonymous. And
- 34:37Speaker 4: these men were making having these testimonials about how it
- 34:40Speaker 4: affected them, and then there was one guy who said,
- 34:42Speaker 4: you know, I don't think it affected me at all,
- 34:45Speaker 4: except you know, one day I was at a party
- 34:48Speaker 4: and I saw a woman passed out drunk in the
- 34:50Speaker 4: coat room, and I had her pants down on around
- 34:53Speaker 4: her ankles, and I was about to, you know, because
- 34:56Speaker 4: I was just really wanted to feel it, when another
- 34:59Speaker 4: person apped in and stopped, or I had to stop
- 35:01Speaker 4: because I realized another person was walking in.
- 35:03Speaker 5: He was about to rape a woman.
- 35:05Speaker 4: He was not affected by having been He said he
- 35:08Speaker 4: wasn't affected by having been raped by a older woman
- 35:12Speaker 4: when he was fourteen, and then he goes on to
- 35:14Speaker 4: describe how that desire for that feeling that he had
- 35:19Speaker 4: got him almost to the point of raping a woman
- 35:22Speaker 4: in a coat room until people walked in and interrupted him.
- 35:26Speaker 4: And I'm like, that was the scariest, one of the
- 35:29Speaker 4: scariest things.
- 35:30Speaker 5: I've ever read on the net.
- 35:31Speaker 4: This is what Rogan is signing off on. Does he
- 35:34Speaker 4: have daughters? Does he care? I mean, And the funny
- 35:38Speaker 4: thing is that I have to frame it in this way.
- 35:40Speaker 4: I think we should just care about boys who are
- 35:42Speaker 4: sexually assaulted, because that's a horrible thing to do with boys.
- 35:46Speaker 4: But I know people like that don't care about that.
- 35:51Speaker 3: Look, if we don't do this, it might hurt women.
- 35:53Speaker 3: And that changes all of a sudden.
- 35:55Speaker 4: Yeah, does he is he okay? Is he okay with
- 36:00Speaker 4: sacrificing his daughters to rapists in order to maintain his
- 36:05Speaker 4: attitude that an adult woman raping of fourteen year old
- 36:09Speaker 4: boys meaningless? Like if he wants to maintain that, then
- 36:12Speaker 4: he's signing off on increasing the likelihood that his daughters
- 36:16Speaker 4: will be raped. Like, I mean, you really have to
- 36:19Speaker 4: think about the consequences of your actions here. If we're
- 36:23Speaker 4: not going to take that seriously, then we're never going
- 36:26Speaker 4: to actually address it with the serious We're never going
- 36:28Speaker 4: to do the interventions necessary to make sure that there
- 36:32Speaker 4: isn't that progression from a boy being sexually abused.
- 36:35Speaker 5: Ten percent of them.
- 36:37Speaker 4: Again, most boys who experience that implode. They don't explode,
- 36:42Speaker 4: but there is a higher likelyhood that they will go
- 36:44Speaker 4: on to explode all over your daughters, Rogan, is that
- 36:49Speaker 4: what you want for your life? Is that what you
- 36:52Speaker 4: want people to know that you did, like that you
- 36:55Speaker 4: advocated for yep, And it's just okay, I'm I can't
- 36:59Speaker 4: believe if I'm on Anna experience side, I heard, I
- 37:02Speaker 4: just what is going on?
- 37:04Speaker 5: Okay, let's keep going.
- 37:06Speaker 2: All right? I got a super chow. I don't I
- 37:08Speaker 2: don't know if there's more to the video. I'll play
- 37:09Speaker 2: the rest of it.
- 37:10Speaker 3: But Greedendors gave us twenty five dollars and said, if
- 37:12Speaker 3: you're doing some short stuff, here's some idiocy from my
- 37:16Speaker 3: part of the world. You probably have to search for
- 37:18Speaker 3: the image discussed though, because I don't think it's in
- 37:20Speaker 3: the article.
- 37:21Speaker 2: He sent me a news article. But I have to
- 37:23Speaker 2: go in like like ten minutes. We don't time. We'll
- 37:27Speaker 2: watch the rest of this Joe Rogan thing, but thank
- 37:29Speaker 2: you for the suggestion.
- 37:30Speaker 9: And is going to go to jail for a long
- 37:31Speaker 9: time if he does that. But a woman doing the
- 37:33Speaker 9: exact same thing doesn't face anything. I mean, she will
- 37:36Speaker 9: face consequences, but it won't be as severe.
- 37:38Speaker 10: I think there are double standards that that makes sense,
- 37:41Speaker 10: and I think that's one of them. I think that
- 37:43Speaker 10: double standard.
- 37:43Speaker 5: Makes it just makes no sense.
- 37:45Speaker 9: Look, there are double standards, for sure, but be comfortable
- 37:49Speaker 9: with a thirty five year old female teacher.
- 37:51Speaker 10: She was hot and I could take my friend fishing
- 37:54Speaker 10: and talk them through it for the weekend. Like, look, dude,
- 37:57Speaker 10: you met a freak. Okay, it's not normal, you know,
- 38:01Speaker 10: keep away from her.
- 38:03Speaker 1: I'm being honest.
- 38:04Speaker 10: I mean I would say, look, don't marry that crazy bitch.
- 38:07Speaker 10: But one day you'll be laughing about this. But right now,
- 38:11Speaker 10: I know it's confusing as fuck, but it's just not
- 38:13Speaker 10: I don't I just don't think it's the same I
- 38:15Speaker 10: don't think it's good.
- 38:16Speaker 2: Okay.
- 38:16Speaker 1: I think she definitely should be fired.
- 38:18Speaker 10: She probably should, you know, face jail time or something
- 38:21Speaker 10: like that for fucking fourteen year olds. Obviously she's a
- 38:23Speaker 10: crazy person. But I don't think it's the same crime.
- 38:26Speaker 10: I think it's a different crime. I think men having
- 38:28Speaker 10: sex with young kids, Yeah, this is okay.
- 38:31Speaker 4: I'm afraid this is the problem. This is the wedge
- 38:35Speaker 4: that is destroying your society because if you do not
- 38:40Speaker 4: recognize that female sexual violence is a problem, and it
- 38:46Speaker 4: is a problem in the same way that male sexual
- 38:49Speaker 4: violence is. Women will always be able to use the
- 38:53Speaker 4: specter of male sexual predation to subjugate you full stop.
- 39:00Speaker 4: So you will by not and I can show you
- 39:05Speaker 4: the studies that indicate this is the case. You should
- 39:07Speaker 4: not let older women pray on young boys, period. And
- 39:10Speaker 4: this is not a good scenario. It's, in fact, in
- 39:13Speaker 4: some ways could be considered worse than the reverse.
- 39:16Speaker 5: I'm not going to go there.
- 39:17Speaker 4: I'm not going to argue that I think we should
- 39:18Speaker 4: have legal equality. But girls do mature faster than boys,
- 39:22Speaker 4: and as far as I know, there's no studies showing
- 39:25Speaker 4: that if girls are sexually assaulted by adult men they
- 39:30Speaker 4: go on to sexually assault others. It may be the
- 39:32Speaker 4: case that they do, but regardless, this is a problem, right,
- 39:38Speaker 4: this is a serious problem.
- 39:41Speaker 1: You know.
- 39:41Speaker 4: Rape isn't just about jumping out of the bushes. It's
- 39:45Speaker 4: about violating a social contract that humans, beings make with
- 39:50Speaker 4: each other to respect each other's theory of mind. All right,
- 39:54Speaker 4: And if we present this idea that men have these
- 39:58Speaker 4: unique powers to just des other people's theories of mind,
- 40:01Speaker 4: they will always be under submission or suspicion. They will
- 40:04Speaker 4: always be morally submissive to women and expected to be
- 40:08Speaker 4: morally submissive to women. That's why feminists have an absolute
- 40:13Speaker 4: iron fist control over this particular part of their narrative,
- 40:18Speaker 4: the part around sexual assault. It's why when I bring
- 40:22Speaker 4: up these statistics, they go absolutely bananas because they know
- 40:27Speaker 4: that's where they got men by the balls.
- 40:30Speaker 5: That's where they.
- 40:30Speaker 4: Can lead them around wherever they want them to go.
- 40:33Speaker 4: And as long as you buy into it, you are
- 40:36Speaker 4: going to be subordinate to feminists, and feminists are going
- 40:38Speaker 4: to rule your society and they're going to make it
- 40:41Speaker 4: into whatever mess they want to make it into. So
- 40:45Speaker 4: Brogan can buy into this command narrative, and I see
- 40:48Speaker 4: that when Canisparian actually framed it in a way that
- 40:52Speaker 4: he could relate to, Suddenly he's like, oh, yeah, you know,
- 40:56Speaker 4: I would blah blah blah.
- 40:57Speaker 3: I think I think tired like I been with the duke,
- 41:01Speaker 3: though you'd be saying put him in the wood. Chapper
- 41:03Speaker 3: feet first. This is not just rape. This is pedophilia
- 41:07Speaker 3: on the part of fucking women that have power over
- 41:09Speaker 3: there over these kids. Like unpower stories of teachers raping
- 41:15Speaker 3: their students where they frame it as like an affair
- 41:17Speaker 3: or something, but they're raping underage boys in school. Almost
- 41:22Speaker 3: every week I get stories of that, and no one
- 41:25Speaker 3: treats it the same as if it was a man
- 41:27Speaker 3: with young girls or other young boys for that matter.
- 41:31Speaker 4: You know, the funny thing is. The funny thing is
- 41:33Speaker 4: is that if you a study recently came across my
- 41:37Speaker 4: desk that men, not Joe Rogan, but men generally or
- 41:42Speaker 4: younger men in particular, are actually considering sexual abuse of
- 41:47Speaker 4: men and boys to be much more serious than they
- 41:49Speaker 4: did like thirty forty years ago. It's women who are
- 41:53Speaker 4: considered like so. For example, in the eighties, if you
- 41:56Speaker 4: asked a woman, is it bad for you know, a
- 41:59Speaker 4: woman to sexually abuse a man or boy? They would say, nah,
- 42:03Speaker 4: there's They would basically be Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan has
- 42:06Speaker 4: the same attitude as like a like a boomer woman
- 42:09Speaker 4: from the eighties. Right, If not, it's okay, it's not
- 42:13Speaker 4: the same. You know, yeah, he actually enjoyed it, you
- 42:17Speaker 4: know now?
- 42:18Speaker 1: Or no, actually.
- 42:20Speaker 4: Sorry, I actually got that all mixed up. Let me
- 42:23Speaker 4: begin again and I will do the I'll do the
- 42:26Speaker 4: Trump Hans. Okay, this is the corrected. Boomer women had
- 42:30Speaker 4: a better attitude towards sexual abuse the men than millennial
- 42:35Speaker 4: women do today, so they would regard it as a
- 42:38Speaker 4: problem if a boy was sexually abused by an older woman,
- 42:42Speaker 4: or if a man was abused by another man or
- 42:45Speaker 4: a woman, and they would they would be less likely
- 42:48Speaker 4: to see it in a situation while he enjoyed it.
- 42:50Speaker 4: Therefore it was justified millennial women, and maybe this is
- 42:54Speaker 4: why there's this gigantic division between or millennial is actually
- 42:58Speaker 4: zoomer women. There's this gig antique division between young men
- 43:02Speaker 4: and young women right now. They think they are less
- 43:06Speaker 4: likely to respect and have compassion for male victims of
- 43:10Speaker 4: sexual assault, so they are more likely to think that
- 43:12Speaker 4: he deserved it, he actually made it happen. These are
- 43:17Speaker 4: younger women, they're more likely to justify sexual assault against
- 43:21Speaker 4: men and think that he deserved it. Coincidentally, I don't
- 43:25Speaker 4: know if you guys, I've talked about this quite a
- 43:27Speaker 4: bit on the show. There's a millennial shift of that.
- 43:31Speaker 4: It's not quite about the millennial generation, but the younger generation.
- 43:34Speaker 4: The younger generation of women is actually engaging in sexual
- 43:38Speaker 4: assault at like three four times more like forcible sexual
- 43:42Speaker 4: assault than younger generation of men and also previous generations
- 43:48Speaker 4: of men and women. I mean wrap your mind around that,
- 43:50Speaker 4: And what a surprise that this generation of women is
- 43:54Speaker 4: not only raping out there at phenomenal rates, they're also
- 43:58Speaker 4: justifying their behavior phenomenal rates. Their attitude has deteriorated. Women's
- 44:04Speaker 4: attitude towards male victims of sexual assault has deteriorated over
- 44:08Speaker 4: the last fifty years. And who has who has basically
- 44:11Speaker 4: been controlling the narrative around sexual assault for the last
- 44:14Speaker 4: fifty years. Yeah, yeah, So this is probably another thing
- 44:17Speaker 4: we can lay at the hands or the feet of feminists,
- 44:20Speaker 4: the absolute state of deterioration of women's understanding, appreciation, and
- 44:27Speaker 4: compassion for male victims of sexual assault to the point
- 44:30Speaker 4: where they are now not only engaging in them. They
- 44:34Speaker 4: are the rapist generation.
- 44:36Speaker 5: In human history.
- 44:37Speaker 4: Guys, They're like freaking Congo levels of rape, these young women,
- 44:43Speaker 4: and they're all excusing it, they're all justifying it. And
- 44:48Speaker 4: then a feminists turn around and say, well, why is
- 44:50Speaker 4: this generation of men's soule misogynists?
- 44:54Speaker 5: It's not misogynist.
- 44:56Speaker 4: They're dealing with the worst generation of women that any
- 45:02Speaker 4: human society has ever produced in terms of sexual violence.
- 45:07Speaker 4: Wouldn't you get a little bit, you know, a little
- 45:09Speaker 4: bit shirty but anyway, his his attitude, like wrote Joe
- 45:13Speaker 4: Rogan's attitude is the same attitude as a millennial or
- 45:18Speaker 4: zoomer woman towards male sexual assault victims. I wonder if
- 45:22Speaker 4: he's married to one's attitude basically, all right, right.
- 45:26Speaker 3: There's only a little bit left in this clip, so
- 45:27Speaker 3: let's just hear the last thirty seconds.
- 45:30Speaker 4: Had a long ran.
- 45:31Speaker 10: And when you see some hot woman and she's happy
- 45:34Speaker 10: that some broken crazy bitch, I mean, it's a different thing.
- 45:37Speaker 9: And it's why is it so many crazy bitch having
- 45:39Speaker 9: sex with your young, impressionable son could be a really
- 45:42Speaker 9: really bad idea.
- 45:43Speaker 1: Kind of thing. It's amazing.
- 45:45Speaker 9: Yeah, look, men and women are wired differently, but I
- 45:47Speaker 9: still don't. I don't agree with that double standard in
- 45:49Speaker 9: the justice system.
- 45:50Speaker 4: And honestly, we're not going to get anywhere as a
- 45:52Speaker 4: species until we get rid of it. Yeah, you know
- 45:55Speaker 4: the thing about and what does he think that every.
- 45:59Speaker 1: Why why is it always like conditional that should be hot?
- 46:03Speaker 3: Like do you know how many like actually, do you
- 46:07Speaker 3: know how many absolute handbast fucking sasquatch women are raping
- 46:11Speaker 3: boys in schools?
- 46:13Speaker 1: Is that?
- 46:13Speaker 3: Do we change the rules for ugly women where do
- 46:16Speaker 3: we draw the line what counts as an ugly woman?
- 46:18Speaker 2: Joe, This is stupid. This is stupid, Like, it's.
- 46:23Speaker 3: Just just fucking follow the law and make it the same.
- 46:28Speaker 3: That's all, not like, well, oh, hot chicks, though it
- 46:31Speaker 3: doesn't count.
- 46:32Speaker 2: That's stupid.
- 46:33Speaker 1: You're a fucking more on with a massive podcast.
- 46:36Speaker 3: I'm sorry, this really pisses me off because it's just
- 46:39Speaker 3: like you said, Allison, this is why we get nowhere,
- 46:42Speaker 3: because our intellectual dork web people are saying shit like this,
- 46:46Speaker 3: and then people are like, wow, what a smart guy
- 46:49Speaker 3: here is fucking retarded?
- 46:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm done.
- 46:52Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's okay, Jim. Joe Rogan is infuriating in
- 46:56Speaker 4: some ways.
- 46:57Speaker 3: He's been inuring for me for men years because he's
- 47:00Speaker 3: always dismissed the men's movement. And I think it's because
- 47:04Speaker 3: this is what he's scared, because we'll fucking demolish him,
- 47:09Speaker 3: Like whatever his supposed common sense stuff is, it's all gone.
- 47:13Speaker 1: His whole bit.
- 47:14Speaker 3: He won't even have a comedy show anymore because all
- 47:16Speaker 3: of his jokes depend on him being able to shit
- 47:18Speaker 3: on men, to be honest, so he would have nothing nothing.
- 47:22Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the.
- 47:25Speaker 4: The other thing, and it's funny because Anna Kisparian is
- 47:28Speaker 4: actually further along than Yeah, so she's more really men's
- 47:34Speaker 4: rights of the fact that she's even defending us as astounding,
- 47:37Speaker 4: like can thank you? This is very strange feeling that
- 47:42Speaker 4: I'm having right now.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Well, Anna, it's like, you know, I don't trust her still,
- 47:46Speaker 3: but but she is. She's been saying some okay stuff lately.
- 47:50Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 47:51Speaker 4: You know what, I honestly like, my personal opinion is
- 47:55Speaker 4: the I don't know, this is going to offend some people.
- 47:57Speaker 4: The only politics that really matter at the end of
- 47:58Speaker 4: the day of the politics between men and women. And honestly,
- 48:02Speaker 4: if you are going to go the Joe Rogan route,
- 48:05Speaker 4: you are handing moral authority over to women, okay, because
- 48:11Speaker 4: they will use grape will feminists will use rape as
- 48:15Speaker 4: a wedge issue to subjugate you.
- 48:18Speaker 5: So enjoy the society that that creates.
- 48:22Speaker 4: And the thing is that I believe in the past,
- 48:24Speaker 4: just judging from the attitudes changing, I think in the
- 48:27Speaker 4: past we had a better attitude towards male victims of
- 48:31Speaker 4: sexual assault. I mean, it was recognized in the Bible
- 48:34Speaker 4: for God's sake, you know, and male victims of sexual
- 48:37Speaker 4: assault and false accusations.
- 48:39Speaker 5: You know, if a.
- 48:40Speaker 4: Boomer women had a better attitude towards male victims, obviously
- 48:44Speaker 4: we're going in the wrong direction. And of course the
- 48:46Speaker 4: wrong direction is being steered by feminists, and then they
- 48:50Speaker 4: blame patriarchy for what they and themselves are doing. So
- 48:54Speaker 4: if they're constructing a generation of young women who are
- 48:59Speaker 4: engaging in the high rates of sexual violence of any
- 49:02Speaker 4: generation measured in history, and then also excusing that sexual violence,
- 49:08Speaker 4: feminists will turn around and say, well, it's patriarchy that
- 49:12Speaker 4: makes it okay for women to rape men, and that's
- 49:16Speaker 4: not our fault. And also it's terrible that these men
- 49:20Speaker 4: who are subject to the rapist generation of women in
- 49:23Speaker 4: human history are getting a little bit pissed about it. Oh, well,
- 49:26Speaker 4: that's just that's just a backlash. Yeah, how justified is
- 49:31Speaker 4: it that you have a frickin ideology that has caped
- 49:35Speaker 4: for and minimized female rapists for the last fifty fricking years,
- 49:40Speaker 4: and suddenly we have a generation of women who think
- 49:42Speaker 4: it's okay and justify it when they engage in sexual
- 49:46Speaker 4: violence against boys and men, And then they bois and
- 49:50Speaker 4: men who they are violating are getting pissed, And then
- 49:54Speaker 4: the feminists are like, oh, that's a backlash. He gets feminism, Like,
- 49:57Speaker 4: the whole narrative is absolutely bullshit, it's all crap from
- 50:02Speaker 4: stem to stern. And then I would say that that
- 50:06Speaker 4: is a justified backlash, like if if, if women's so
- 50:11Speaker 4: called liberation means they're liberated from not being expected to
- 50:17Speaker 4: behave in a way that is respectful and not violating
- 50:23Speaker 4: towards other people, No wonder, nobody wants it anymore.
- 50:28Speaker 5: Nobody.
- 50:29Speaker 4: They want to go back to a system where women
- 50:31Speaker 4: were actually had controls on their behavior so they weren't
- 50:34Speaker 4: out and raping everyone.
- 50:36Speaker 5: And why did we ever think? Why did we?
- 50:38Speaker 4: Why don't we just one day say, you know, the
- 50:41Speaker 4: world will be a better place if women are held
- 50:43Speaker 4: to no standard whatsoever, none whatsoever. Gosh, golly gee, that's
- 50:49Speaker 4: what's keeping us from Mars. That's what's keeping us from
- 50:52Speaker 4: world peace. We've been holding women to standards all this time,
- 50:56Speaker 4: and if we don't, well, they'll just leave us into
- 50:59Speaker 4: an era of porns and prosper No, they led us
- 51:02Speaker 4: into an era of beatings and fucking rape and also
- 51:07Speaker 4: untrapped immigration.
- 51:09Speaker 5: Good lord, could we have just done?
- 51:11Speaker 4: Could we have that? Like maybe liberation, and not not
- 51:15Speaker 4: even liberation, maybe just greater responsibilities and recognizing that there
- 51:22Speaker 4: were greater responsibilities, that these things are not just rights,
- 51:24Speaker 4: the responsibilities. Maybe that would have been better approach. Oh
- 51:29Speaker 4: good lord, Okay, I think we should wrap it up.
- 51:34Speaker 5: Yeah, let's wrap it up.
- 51:36Speaker 2: All right? So no more? Okay, go ahead.
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- 52:00Speaker 5: You, Brian.
- 52:01Speaker 4: It's not sure what else you pointed to the dirt anymore.
- 52:05Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's the end of that, all right.
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- 52:25Speaker 11: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
- 52:31Speaker 11: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
- 52:34Speaker 11: deal with, especially if you have, like especially if you
- 52:37Speaker 11: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
- 52:39Speaker 11: On top of that, too, holy shit, you're fucked