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Jags Drive Time: Wednesday, November 10th · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive To with Ashlyn Sullim sounds, John
0:07
Speaker 1: Oshan and Brian Sexty. Jacks Drive To starts right now.
0:19
Speaker 1: Bills trying to pick it up. They can't. Alan Chris sipting.
0:23
Speaker 1: It's Josh Allen intercipting, Josh Anon brother just at the
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Speaker 1: Jos Almond Chrsus Dass Almond soon come up for anybody
0:51
Speaker 1: you want to want to off. Having Mike Cup is
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Speaker 1: a officially very good luck and the two wins the
1:03
Speaker 1: Jaguars have had Josh Allen is Mike Depth. So we're
1:05
Speaker 1: going to clock it in that that is a very
1:07
Speaker 1: good sign of Speaking of Josh Allen, the a f
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Speaker 1: C Defensive Player of the Week just announced this morning.
1:13
Speaker 1: Congratulations could not have gone to a better guy. And
1:16
Speaker 1: it has been a while since the Jaguar has been
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Speaker 1: awarded one of these. He's really good. He's really good.
1:22
Speaker 1: I remember Draft night in Nashville when I was yeah,
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Speaker 1: they they thought he was gonna go before where the
1:26
Speaker 1: Jaguars picked at seven and they was getting a fee
1:29
Speaker 1: to who to go find in the green room. They
1:30
Speaker 1: were telling me to go find T. J. Hockinson and
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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they started yelling, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: it's Allen. They were surprised he landed to them, And
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Speaker 1: how fortunate they are that he slid to them at
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Speaker 1: number seven, because that guy is a top talent, and
1:45
Speaker 1: I think we're just we're starting to see him take
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Speaker 1: over games. He did in London against the Dolphin. He
1:49
Speaker 1: played so well in Seattle, and then of course last week,
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Speaker 1: now he's the a f C Defensive Player of the
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Speaker 1: Week watch out Indianapolis. Well it speaks to how, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the NFL these days, we want everybody to be
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Speaker 1: everything immediately. And Josh was good as a rookie, but
2:06
Speaker 1: he you know, he wasn't great last year and he played,
2:08
Speaker 1: he was beat up. He you know, a lot was
2:11
Speaker 1: going on around. I don't say he wasn't great, but
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Speaker 1: he won't. You know, fans early this year we're starting
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Speaker 1: to is he a franchise guy? As he this? He this?
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Speaker 1: It takes time for the game to slow down to
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Speaker 1: the point where you can be great like he's becoming.
2:28
Speaker 1: Uh So, sometimes it takes a couple of years before
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Speaker 1: guys reach that point of living up to draft expectations.
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Speaker 1: And I get around here, a lot of guys haven't.
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Speaker 1: But Josh is certainly to me looking like the second
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Speaker 1: guy on this franchise that you're gonna build around first
2:45
Speaker 1: being the quarterback, or just to to echo that point,
2:48
Speaker 1: if you go down the hallway, Trent Bulk, he has
2:50
Speaker 1: been around a while and you and I remember and
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Speaker 1: he does too, when first round picks didn't necessarily start
2:56
Speaker 1: as rookies. It took time for them to work their
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Speaker 1: way into the lineup. Um. So you look at Josh
3:03
Speaker 1: Allen in the way that he's progressing right now, I
3:06
Speaker 1: mean he has the look of a long term player. Well, okay,
3:09
Speaker 1: so you'll sacrifice a little bit here and there as
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Speaker 1: he learns to get that for the long term, he's terrific.
3:14
Speaker 1: And here's what's really important about that. I get that
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Speaker 1: they they had Jalen Ramsey and whatever happened happened, and
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Speaker 1: he's not here anymore. Uh. He was a core guy,
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Speaker 1: top five guy, probably a Hall of Fame talent. But
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Speaker 1: what they haven't had on defense in a long time,
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Speaker 1: maybe since Tony brackens Um And it's it's such a
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Speaker 1: different game that's hard to compare Tony and Josh, but
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Speaker 1: they haven't had that guy close to the ball impact
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Speaker 1: pass rusher that you build around, which is really to me,
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Speaker 1: it's much easier and better to build around that than
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Speaker 1: it is to build around a cornerback. So they haven't
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Speaker 1: had that defensive player, Brian, I don't know a guy
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Speaker 1: quite yeah, but even with Bracken's pure path rusher, maybe
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Speaker 1: not the run player that Josh was. I mean that
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Speaker 1: Tony was really good. I'm not he was two d
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Speaker 1: and sixty pounds. You can anchor in um. But they
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Speaker 1: haven't had this guy on defense to build around in
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Speaker 1: a long time. And I'm not sayingthing against Henderson Strad
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Speaker 1: those were great defense. I'm not comparing it to that,
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Speaker 1: But this guy's build around player. This guy's a difference maker.
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Speaker 1: He's a game changer. He makes those kinds of place
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Speaker 1: and just to compare and contrast unique and Gokway was
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Speaker 1: a terrific pass rusher, but he didn't do what Josh does.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't have Josh his frame, he doesn't have his weight.
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Speaker 1: So Josh is a complete player, and it's worth noting
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Speaker 1: if you haven't heard it. A terrific human being, the
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Speaker 1: kind of guy that you build your locker room. He
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Speaker 1: fits around everything off the field as well. What certainly helps. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and and it's worth saying also, um, the scheme that
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Speaker 1: they've put him in, that Joe Colin is installed this year,
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Speaker 1: seems to be favoring him. And it was probably a
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Speaker 1: bit of a learning curve for him at the early
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Speaker 1: part of this season to get adjusted to what they
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Speaker 1: wanted from um. But with nine games left to play,
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Speaker 1: really good sign what we've seen in the last three weeks.
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Speaker 1: To make some money. He was wearing that green jacket
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Speaker 1: afterwards and I said to him, your money dance. Huh.
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Speaker 1: Good for him. Congratulations to Josh Allen, a FC Defensive
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Speaker 1: Player of the Week. Let's get into big things. Big
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Speaker 1: thing one is need for speed. It is obvious the
5:14
Speaker 1: Jaguars need more downfield threats. Well, what they have is
5:18
Speaker 1: what they will have the rest of the season. So
5:20
Speaker 1: one thing that will certainly help is getting running back
5:22
Speaker 1: James Robinson back on the field. He should be ready. Obviously,
5:27
Speaker 1: we're gonna be very smart with him because he's a
5:29
Speaker 1: you know, he's not always only a second year player,
5:31
Speaker 1: but he's a tough grinder. I would have played him
5:34
Speaker 1: if he would have been able to go, you know,
5:35
Speaker 1: and we don't have a rule. I thought, you have
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Speaker 1: to practice certain intense. Who it is man, he's so
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Speaker 1: I expect him to be limited a little bit early
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Speaker 1: in the week. For I'm hearing everything's real passive. Big
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Speaker 1: thing too is Taylor the terrible the Jaguars getting ready
5:51
Speaker 1: to play the Cults this weekend, and that guy Jonathan
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Speaker 1: Taylor is the best running back in the NFL right
5:57
Speaker 1: now on the field, you have to respect the run
6:00
Speaker 1: this week. And this is really different than what we
6:02
Speaker 1: saw against the Bills. The Bills were the highest scoring
6:04
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL, but not so much against the run.
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Speaker 1: So this week with the Colts, Jonathan Taylor really have
6:11
Speaker 1: to have great run defense this week. Big thing three
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Speaker 1: is get to it. The bye week did them no
6:16
Speaker 1: favors after beating the Dolphins. How does getting right back
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Speaker 1: on the field give this team much chance to build
6:22
Speaker 1: momentum going against the Colts. Yeah, we didn't play well
6:27
Speaker 1: after the bye week. You know, I just think we
6:29
Speaker 1: store a young team that needs to work, you know,
6:31
Speaker 1: you though, I've always get spooped when you say four
6:34
Speaker 1: days off of throwing and catching and taking care of
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Speaker 1: the ball and tackling. And I think our guys are
6:39
Speaker 1: anxious to get out there Wednesday, and they like we
6:41
Speaker 1: adapted our schedule a little bit. They felt fresh and uh,
6:45
Speaker 1: you know, obviously this is a in in in division
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Speaker 1: division games. So we had our team met and they're excited,
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Speaker 1: ready to go. Try to stack a win. I have
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Speaker 1: to stack a in two wins in a row, hopefully
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Speaker 1: this week for the Jaguars and hope sleep James Robinson
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Speaker 1: is back on the practice field today. It is a key,
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Speaker 1: very key speak. So in the NFL it's about players,
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Speaker 1: not plays right, always players unless your players are hurt.
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Speaker 1: So it's not like the Jaguars didn't think they had
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Speaker 1: some speed with d J. Chark and with Traves E.
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Speaker 1: T N. But with those two guys gone, now it's
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Speaker 1: not who John, it's how how do they structure an
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Speaker 1: offensive game plan to create points? Because you're not gonna
7:25
Speaker 1: win with nine points on Sunday, no chance. You've got
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Speaker 1: to go and put the ball in the end zone.
7:31
Speaker 1: James Robinson certainly helps because of play action, but they've
7:34
Speaker 1: got to figure out Brian Schottenheimer and Darryl Bevil have
7:37
Speaker 1: got to put scheme into motion this week to get
7:39
Speaker 1: these guys into the end zone. Yeah, I don't envy him.
7:42
Speaker 1: I mean, it's their job and they make much more
7:45
Speaker 1: not do so any way, I do envy him, but
7:49
Speaker 1: it's it's going to be difficult. I wrote in one
7:52
Speaker 1: of my quick thoughts for Jaguars dot Com that the
7:55
Speaker 1: reason that I'm not sure this team is going to
7:57
Speaker 1: be able to run off a big run, it's not
8:01
Speaker 1: that they're not improving. It's not that there's not tangible
8:03
Speaker 1: things that are going really really well. It's that I
8:06
Speaker 1: wonder where the easy points are going to come from.
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Speaker 1: They won nine six last week. I could easily see
8:12
Speaker 1: this team, over what, nine more games, having three or
8:16
Speaker 1: four games that they win seventeen seventeen sixteen. But boy,
8:24
Speaker 1: it's hard to do that every week because that means
8:26
Speaker 1: the games are always gonna be tight, and it means
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be one way or the other. So, you know,
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you scheme for a wide receiver
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Speaker 1: record that so far as showed you that it is
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Speaker 1: not a downfield wide receiver records get levisca involved close
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Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage. But they've done that, and
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Speaker 1: the problem is it's hard to break out of that.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to be a tackle breaking wide receiver and
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Speaker 1: make huge place because guys can tackle. So I don't
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Speaker 1: know that there's an answer beyond squeeze jamal agnew in there,
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Speaker 1: get some speed plays in spots. I worry about its consistency.
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Speaker 1: The dfense played well, has played well the last two
9:03
Speaker 1: games and three quarters. The offense is only averaging sixteen
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Speaker 1: and a half points. Again, that's not enough, so it
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Speaker 1: needs to be mid twenties doing consistent. And I don't
9:12
Speaker 1: think they've scored more than twenty this year, So twenty
9:15
Speaker 1: three points is their their cap so far this year.
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Speaker 1: They've got to score points. I think James Robinson helps
9:22
Speaker 1: because the threat of play action will certainly give an
9:24
Speaker 1: opportunity for a guy to make a play to to
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Speaker 1: beat someone right. Um, But if you don't have him
9:30
Speaker 1: and they drop those two safeties closer to the line
9:32
Speaker 1: of scrimmage because they're not worried about your speed, makes
9:35
Speaker 1: it really tough for guys to get open. So we're
9:37
Speaker 1: putting a lot of James Robinson. He's going to have
9:40
Speaker 1: to be a key player and stay healthy. If you're
9:42
Speaker 1: watching this scene the rest of the way, I kind
9:44
Speaker 1: of look at and think if you want to see
9:46
Speaker 1: if it's playing well offensively. I wouldn't necessarily look at
9:48
Speaker 1: the points because I think it's gonna be hard for
9:51
Speaker 1: them to get to high twenties. If they're putting together
9:54
Speaker 1: some drives, if their methodical, if they look like they're
9:57
Speaker 1: playing better. Ben Barts is a guy who's playing a
9:59
Speaker 1: lot better. If guys on the line look like they're
10:01
Speaker 1: playing better, and Trevor looks like he's controlling that. I
10:04
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna see huge yardage games because of
10:06
Speaker 1: the receivers, but I think you can still see progress
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Speaker 1: points in the high teens, low twenties, get a few wins.
10:13
Speaker 1: I just worry about that, yeah, being able to break
10:17
Speaker 1: out offensively. It does bear mentioned if they get a
10:19
Speaker 1: couple of turnovers like they did last week and give
10:23
Speaker 1: Trevor extra but short fields, right, Okay, Well, that will
10:27
Speaker 1: certainly help their cause. As the defense improves, it should
10:30
Speaker 1: give them some more chances as well. But the bugaboo
10:32
Speaker 1: here is that the speed guys that they were counting
10:34
Speaker 1: on giving them their explosiveness that urban Meyer has talked
10:37
Speaker 1: about since he arrived, those guys are standing and watching
10:40
Speaker 1: on the sideline, so you've got to figure out how
10:42
Speaker 1: as opposed to who. Yeah, and it's really you look
10:45
Speaker 1: at it almost seems like every single game there is
10:47
Speaker 1: one play where you go, oh my gosh, catch the ball,
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Speaker 1: and that was lasting against the Bills in the Engines
10:53
Speaker 1: in the end zone. C J. Bethor has a touchdown.
10:55
Speaker 1: And maybe we're talking a little bit differently because we
10:57
Speaker 1: saw it happen, but it seems like every single game
11:00
Speaker 1: and there's that one moment where you shoot yourself in
11:01
Speaker 1: the foot. Yeah, And that's very, very true. The thing
11:06
Speaker 1: is they I don't know that they have the weapons
11:09
Speaker 1: outside consistently to give themselves multiple chances in that when
11:13
Speaker 1: you're playing really well in your high powered offense, you
11:16
Speaker 1: have a drop, but you've also got two or three
11:19
Speaker 1: other guys who make the place right now, it was
11:22
Speaker 1: Myles jack Up. We talked about the margin for air.
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Speaker 1: To me, that's part of the margin for air. When
11:27
Speaker 1: your guys aren't big time dynamic receivers. They don't have
11:32
Speaker 1: that right now. When you don't have that, then everything
11:34
Speaker 1: becomes you got to catch that one or they're not
11:36
Speaker 1: going to get in their chance. That's why you need
11:39
Speaker 1: the big time guys just one thought on Jonathan Taylor
11:41
Speaker 1: um coming off a huge Thursday night game against the Jets,
11:44
Speaker 1: and the Jets have some talent on defense. Now he
11:46
Speaker 1: went for one seventy two and had that long run. Uh,
11:49
Speaker 1: this is a guy who beat the Jaguars last December. Uh,
11:53
Speaker 1: what do you have? Eight point four eight point five
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Speaker 1: yards per car? He had four and seventy five yards rushing.
11:59
Speaker 1: It was it was so so it's not going to
12:01
Speaker 1: be as easy to rush the pastor because you're gonna
12:03
Speaker 1: have to respect the ruin. This week with Buffalo, you
12:06
Speaker 1: didn't worry about the run with this team. If you
12:08
Speaker 1: can stop the run and forced Carson Wentz, he'll throw
12:11
Speaker 1: the ball up. Now, he hasn't thrown as many interceptions
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Speaker 1: this year as he did last year, but he'll throw
12:15
Speaker 1: some bad balls out there and give you an opportunity
12:18
Speaker 1: to go make a play on it. But it all
12:19
Speaker 1: starts with stopping Jonathan Taylor. It's as different a defensive
12:24
Speaker 1: challenge as you can possibly imagine. In different defensive game plans,
12:28
Speaker 1: I would necessarily think, oh, the Jaguars played great defensively
12:31
Speaker 1: last week. Doesn't mean it's going to translate they'll play better,
12:34
Speaker 1: But shutting this teams down and saying this team down
12:37
Speaker 1: is a different beast with the defensive personnelity team. But
12:39
Speaker 1: forget the numbers. This team has played the run very
12:43
Speaker 1: very well, so there's every reason to expect they'll go
12:46
Speaker 1: up and play well. Yes, totally different game plan and
12:48
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Speaker 1: you think the Jaguars matchup with in the a f
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Speaker 1: C South better the culture the Titans. I mean, they've
13:52
Speaker 1: they've lost six of seven against the Titans, but there's
13:55
Speaker 1: six and five in their last eleven against the Colts
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Speaker 1: and those numbers, you're right, um, they are almost five
14:01
Speaker 1: hundred against Indianapolis, which would say they match up better
14:04
Speaker 1: with them. Um, but this team is a run the
14:08
Speaker 1: ball team right now, so that kind of plays towards Tennessee.
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Speaker 1: What do you think. I think Tennessee not having Derrick
14:16
Speaker 1: Henry is huge because every time we talk about the game,
14:19
Speaker 1: that dominates the conversation. So without him the rest of
14:22
Speaker 1: the season, I think it's a different ball game. And
14:24
Speaker 1: I would maybe say they match up better against the
14:25
Speaker 1: Titans now because of that. I don't think anybody in
14:28
Speaker 1: the matches that very well against Titans. I think right now,
14:30
Speaker 1: even without Derrick Henry, they're the best team in the
14:32
Speaker 1: a f C. They're playing really well. Uh. I like
14:37
Speaker 1: their I always like the Jags matchup against the Colts simply, Uh.
14:42
Speaker 1: They seem to have some sort of weird confidence against
14:45
Speaker 1: them if they can play against them very well, even
14:48
Speaker 1: when they weren't playing very well. I think this is
14:51
Speaker 1: a huge game for the Jags. UM. I don't want
14:54
Speaker 1: to overplay it, but if you win this one, you've
14:57
Speaker 1: won three or four. If you win this and you've
15:00
Speaker 1: now beaten two teams that came into the game thinking
15:04
Speaker 1: they were a playoff team. It's different from Miami because
15:06
Speaker 1: MAMMI didn't think they were a playoff team realistically, all
15:09
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you show your fans we can do
15:11
Speaker 1: it twice. This feels big for how we're going to
15:14
Speaker 1: feel about this team going forward. It's been two years
15:16
Speaker 1: since it's been October, more than two years since they've
15:20
Speaker 1: won consecutively. Right, And I'll say that this is flopped
15:24
Speaker 1: because back in the day, even though the Jaguars played
15:26
Speaker 1: the Colts tough against Peyton Manning and Edger and James
15:29
Speaker 1: and then Joseph and I and all the receivers they had. Uh,
15:32
Speaker 1: they rarely want, right, But in the last five or
15:35
Speaker 1: six years, even when Andrew Luck was here, they still want.
15:37
Speaker 1: The Jaguars were competitive. They fifty Burger on them. Yeah, yeah,
15:45
Speaker 1: I remember. But but this even last year, right when
15:50
Speaker 1: we knew what the Jaguars were and they the Colts
15:52
Speaker 1: came in, you know, touting a playoff team opening day,
15:55
Speaker 1: Jaguars beat him. They beat him at the end of
15:56
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. They beat him back to back games, if
15:58
Speaker 1: you're called the last game twenty nineteen the first game.
16:01
Speaker 1: So they've been more competitive against them. Uh, it's a
16:04
Speaker 1: different game up there on the turf with their speed,
16:08
Speaker 1: it is a huge game. John's absolutely right, Yes he is.
16:11
Speaker 1: What is your this or that? You say the Josh
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Speaker 1: Allen is a better against it is a better player
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Speaker 1: against the run or the past, and I'm not sure
16:23
Speaker 1: which it is. Um. I think right now he's actually
16:26
Speaker 1: better against the run, and that's saying something because he's
16:29
Speaker 1: starting to rush the past or very very well. I
16:33
Speaker 1: had this has been this or that more to make
16:35
Speaker 1: the point that he's a phenomenally complete player for a
16:41
Speaker 1: guy who is was drafted as a quote pass rusher.
16:44
Speaker 1: He was dynamite against Seattle against the run, he was
16:49
Speaker 1: His biggest play of the year, arguably still was to
16:51
Speaker 1: play against Miami when he basically got him the ball back. Um.
16:55
Speaker 1: I think he's a little better against the run right now,
16:58
Speaker 1: but he's really good at both. Finn. I think he's
17:01
Speaker 1: on the verge of becoming a perennial Pro Bowl guy.
17:04
Speaker 1: So I'll go with the pass rush. You mentioned Tony
17:06
Speaker 1: Bracken's earlier, and I remember we had this conversation with
17:09
Speaker 1: the practice field as I watched him and he was
17:13
Speaker 1: moving like brack used to, right, I mean the way
17:15
Speaker 1: that he could hit a bag and then bend and
17:17
Speaker 1: turn and get around a guy who was right next
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Speaker 1: to him, And I thought, we just haven't seen that
17:23
Speaker 1: sort of athleticism out of a defensive end. So I'll
17:25
Speaker 1: say the past because I think it plays to his explosiveness.
17:29
Speaker 1: But you're right, he made the big play in Miami
17:32
Speaker 1: and then there he is crashing down and taking advantage
17:35
Speaker 1: of the opportunity that Adam Dots has set up for him. Uh.
17:38
Speaker 1: Really just a terrific all around football player. And I
17:41
Speaker 1: think that's the key phrase you just said, was football player,
17:45
Speaker 1: because there are pass rushers who were putting this earth
17:48
Speaker 1: to rush of the passer and that's just what they
17:51
Speaker 1: do and they have the guy give an ability to
17:52
Speaker 1: do it. Um, this guy's football awareness, the ability to
17:59
Speaker 1: read a quarterback come off of it. Since what's going
18:02
Speaker 1: on around him that makes him so good against the run.
18:05
Speaker 1: He's clearly more than a guy who just lines up
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Speaker 1: and gets after the quarterback, although that's what you get
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Speaker 1: paid for it. Well exactly go back and look at
18:12
Speaker 1: the play on the interception that he made though, and
18:14
Speaker 1: he came from the fore side of the field where
18:16
Speaker 1: he did not rush the pass, and you talk about
18:18
Speaker 1: him dropping back into coverage. Well, that was the play
18:21
Speaker 1: hasn't made if he doesn't do that occasionally. I think
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Speaker 1: this scheme and the coaching staff have done a great
18:26
Speaker 1: job of putting him in a position to play at
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Speaker 1: his very best. Theory is that coming all the way
18:29
Speaker 1: across the field and making that play, he's just he
18:33
Speaker 1: might be your best player on either side of the ball. Yeah.
18:36
Speaker 1: And if you watch Mike Dup on Jaguars dot Com
18:39
Speaker 1: right now, he talks right before that play about just
18:41
Speaker 1: having the instinct that he knew the interception the ball
18:43
Speaker 1: was going to come his way. That football like you
18:45
Speaker 1: that you can't really explain that. It was nice to
18:48
Speaker 1: Josh to throw it to him. That was very kind
18:50
Speaker 1: of lay up like that. All right, mind this or
18:53
Speaker 1: that is Walker Little or Cam Robinson. I know you're thinking, well,
18:57
Speaker 1: obviously Cam Robinson right now, but this is long term.
19:00
Speaker 1: This is offseason talk that I'm going to bring up
19:02
Speaker 1: right now, Cam Robinson. The front office is very happy
19:05
Speaker 1: with the way he's playing, and I talked Tony Tony
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Speaker 1: Boselli every week, who is raving about the way Cam
19:10
Speaker 1: Robinson is playing. Walker Little played last week, held his own,
19:14
Speaker 1: had one sack, of rookie figuring it out, and when
19:16
Speaker 1: he was drafted, we all assumed, okay, that would be
19:18
Speaker 1: the replacement for Cam Robinson on a one year deal.
19:21
Speaker 1: I'm now starting to think, what if they resigned Cam
19:24
Speaker 1: Robinson And this is gonna be a tough decision because
19:26
Speaker 1: both are playing kind of well, and Walker Little supposed
19:29
Speaker 1: to be the replacements. I don't know if it's going
19:31
Speaker 1: to happen that quickly. What if they resigned Cam Robins
19:34
Speaker 1: Little is working on a rookie contract. If you want
19:37
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson, you certainly have the cap room to be
19:39
Speaker 1: able to keep him. It sounds when you talk to
19:41
Speaker 1: folks on that side of the hall, it sounds like
19:43
Speaker 1: they're really high on the way that he's playing. Um,
19:46
Speaker 1: so there's no need to rush it. Get a team
19:48
Speaker 1: friendly deal that that works for Cam Robinson and his people,
19:51
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna want a team friendly deal. That's
19:53
Speaker 1: my but find a way to structure a contract if
19:55
Speaker 1: it's possible and you don't have to move on. You know,
19:58
Speaker 1: you've got Jowan Taylor on the other side. You're waiting
20:00
Speaker 1: for him, and we talk about Josh Allen's development, well
20:04
Speaker 1: may have taken a little longer because of the A
20:05
Speaker 1: C l and and it lingered into ten and not
20:10
Speaker 1: a good football team last year. For us to see
20:13
Speaker 1: the Cam Robinson that they were excited about when they
20:16
Speaker 1: drafted him and moved up in the second round to
20:17
Speaker 1: get him in seventeen, I wouldn't just assume he's gone.
20:22
Speaker 1: I think you try to find a way to keep him. Yeah,
20:24
Speaker 1: Cam brings a lot in the sense that he's pretty
20:27
Speaker 1: reliable except for the a C. He had a couple
20:30
Speaker 1: of things, but I mean, he didn't play last week.
20:33
Speaker 1: It was kind of flukey. Um. The the Madden types
20:40
Speaker 1: out there are now saying, well, you drafted Walk a
20:43
Speaker 1: little you got get rid of Camp Robinson. You do that.
20:45
Speaker 1: You you always want to be where letting good football
20:49
Speaker 1: players at the building, especially on the offensive line. It
20:52
Speaker 1: would be a little unusual in this day and age
20:54
Speaker 1: to keep Cam Robinson because that was why they drafted
20:57
Speaker 1: Walk a little bit, plug and play. But hasn't it
21:00
Speaker 1: been nice this year for you not to stress out
21:05
Speaker 1: when any first string offensive lineman gets hurt. Uh, this
21:09
Speaker 1: team is really deep on the offensive line. I agree
21:12
Speaker 1: with you. I don't know how it'll play out, but
21:16
Speaker 1: I do not think that resigning Cam Robinson is remotely
21:19
Speaker 1: off the table. Yeah, And I don't think if I
21:21
Speaker 1: felt if I was asked the same question a couple
21:23
Speaker 1: of months ago, I don't know if I would have
21:24
Speaker 1: felt that way. But I think it all depends if
21:25
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson wants that make a deal or not. They're
21:27
Speaker 1: gonna have to he's gonna want it. Yeah, they're gonna
21:29
Speaker 1: have to compromise. They're gonna have to pay him, but
21:31
Speaker 1: they can also look at Walker a little. It's doable. Uh,
21:36
Speaker 1: it'll be tricky. Well, if we're talking about offseason at
21:39
Speaker 1: this particular moment, your highest paid player is your left
21:42
Speaker 1: guard Andrew Norwell, right, who's played well this year also,
21:46
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for some room, perhaps you can
21:48
Speaker 1: find it there cap wise right and move on because
21:51
Speaker 1: you can't have a guard making sixteen million to be
21:53
Speaker 1: your highest paid player if you're going to give Cam
21:55
Speaker 1: Robinson that kind of a deal. Very true, And that
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Speaker 1: was an enigma. Was it was a bad day for forever,
22:45
Speaker 1: a bad day for the offense yesterday was we're facing
22:48
Speaker 1: a great defense. We kind of, I don't say we
22:50
Speaker 1: put the clamps on him a little bit, but we
22:52
Speaker 1: called it. We you know, we just played smart, complimentary
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Speaker 1: football and Pather the ball down in her red zone
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Speaker 1: twice and we score those two touched els and you
23:01
Speaker 1: know we're not either having this field about any struggles
23:04
Speaker 1: offensively at all, especially against that defensive book. Um, I
23:09
Speaker 1: think Trevor's growing up as a quarterback and he's becoming
23:12
Speaker 1: a bird productor got a score in the red zone,
23:15
Speaker 1: and how Trevor Lawrence has improved. We will talk about
23:19
Speaker 1: it right here on his own snap shop, his own
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Speaker 1: friendly Let's go to Orlando. We got casey, oh boy,
23:32
Speaker 1: wait back to kick or try out to get the
23:34
Speaker 1: feel good story of three weeks ago feels like a
23:37
Speaker 1: distant memory for special teams magic. Yeah, I don't think
23:41
Speaker 1: we're back to kick or tryouts, certainly. Matthew writes Day
23:45
Speaker 1: On on Sunday was odd. He he had three field
23:49
Speaker 1: goals and without the fifty five yarder that he squeezed
23:51
Speaker 1: over the upright, it's a dramatically different game. He missed
23:57
Speaker 1: these three in a row, and technically to be in
24:00
Speaker 1: Matthew writes, corner a little bit. The first one wasn't
24:03
Speaker 1: going to count anyway, like everybody's saying. He missed two.
24:08
Speaker 1: The Jaguars had a legal procedure there, so that wasn't
24:12
Speaker 1: going to count. So give him a little bit of
24:14
Speaker 1: a break. There'll be still miss three. Um, this is
24:17
Speaker 1: going to be something to watch. H He needs to
24:22
Speaker 1: have two or three clean games in a row so
24:25
Speaker 1: that people start of breathe a side release and said, okay,
24:27
Speaker 1: now he's got it. But I don't think we're down
24:30
Speaker 1: to kicker tryouts yet. I give your kid a chance.
24:32
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick. Should see last year six, Yes, something
24:35
Speaker 1: like that. You don't want to get on the kicker carousel.
24:37
Speaker 1: You want to give this kid time. I mean the
24:40
Speaker 1: two in the final four minutes in London and then
24:43
Speaker 1: look when they lined up to start the fifty five
24:44
Speaker 1: yard field goal on Sunday, I said to Fred Taylor,
24:46
Speaker 1: who was standing next to me, just the right move here, right?
24:49
Speaker 1: Do we know this kid can nail it from fifty
24:51
Speaker 1: five yards? Because if not, you're giving Josh Allen the
24:53
Speaker 1: ball in point blank range right the other Josh Allen. Um,
24:57
Speaker 1: he made it right, So I said, Okay, what's wrong? Um?
25:00
Speaker 1: I think he's good. I think he's a good kicker.
25:02
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's a great kicker. I think
25:04
Speaker 1: he's a good kicker. Don't get on the Carassel'll give
25:07
Speaker 1: him time, and I don't think they will. I don't
25:08
Speaker 1: sense talking to anybody that they're worried about him yet,
25:12
Speaker 1: but they won't let him cost them too much. Yeah,
25:16
Speaker 1: And this was the hesitation of letting Josh Lambo go.
25:19
Speaker 1: Now you have Matthew Wright. Is there anything better on
25:21
Speaker 1: the street? Probably not, so yeah, stick with him and
25:24
Speaker 1: see how it goes. That's the option you have right now.
25:26
Speaker 1: Such a headgame with kickers. Certainly, there have been kickers,
25:29
Speaker 1: many many kickers who have come in and performed worse
25:33
Speaker 1: and more inconsistently than this guy has. He He has
25:37
Speaker 1: so far very much earned the right to be here
25:39
Speaker 1: when he starts missing extra points. Alright, alright, let's go
25:44
Speaker 1: to Wake four. It's North Carolina. Jeff. How do we
25:48
Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence is coming along? Is their hope? Ye?
25:52
Speaker 1: For what? Yeah? This one? Well, there's this undercurrent out
25:55
Speaker 1: there and everybody wants to pick apart every aim and
26:00
Speaker 1: I get it because he's the most high profile player
26:02
Speaker 1: maybe enfranchise history definitely, so everything wants to be picked apart.
26:07
Speaker 1: My answer to this, I actually wrote this question the zone,
26:10
Speaker 1: uh mail bag. Is there hope? He is the hope? Yeah,
26:17
Speaker 1: I mean, and there's nothing so far to make you
26:21
Speaker 1: think that he's not going to be great. There. There's
26:23
Speaker 1: a little bit of accurate accuracy stuff, and talking to
26:26
Speaker 1: people who know quarterbacks, he is improving on that. On
26:29
Speaker 1: that front, it is a little bit mechanics that you've
26:34
Speaker 1: always got to be aware of as a quarterback. I
26:37
Speaker 1: think he will get better at maintaining that through the
26:39
Speaker 1: course of the season. That's not a given. You have
26:42
Speaker 1: to work at it. I think he'll get better on
26:43
Speaker 1: that front. But a lot of it is just awareness,
26:47
Speaker 1: reading the defense, getting more comfortable. I have seen nothing
26:51
Speaker 1: to reiterate what I said earlier, is their hope. He
26:55
Speaker 1: is the hope. I don't care. I mean, I love
26:57
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Like a lot of things that are going on.
27:00
Speaker 1: Quarterback lady have that he needs speed. He needs help
27:04
Speaker 1: help him out. He needs speed. They will. They will
27:07
Speaker 1: turn over every rock in the off season. They will
27:09
Speaker 1: look for speed everywhere they can. They will give him weapons,
27:12
Speaker 1: They will accentuate the other guys like Lavisca, who is
27:15
Speaker 1: not a speed guy. And when you have speed on
27:17
Speaker 1: the outside, then Labisca gets to do what he does
27:19
Speaker 1: best in the slot. Well, then you're better in two spots. Right.
27:22
Speaker 1: They'll give him speed and you will see him take
27:24
Speaker 1: a dramatic jump. Three wins for Peyton Manning interceptions his
27:29
Speaker 1: rookie year. He's in the Hall of Fame with two
27:31
Speaker 1: Super Bowl championships. Right, they knew what Peyton Manning was
27:34
Speaker 1: going to be and he became that. I feel the
27:36
Speaker 1: exact same way about this kid. They just have to
27:38
Speaker 1: build this thing for him. Yep. And Travis e ten
27:41
Speaker 1: hopefully coming back next year. And you would hope that
27:43
Speaker 1: they say, all right, Trevor, what would you like here? Here?
27:46
Speaker 1: You can They know what he likes, They know what
27:48
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28:29
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