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ITB Roundtable: Notes and Observations From Two Days Of Eagles Training Camp · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Inside the Birds is back.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on everybody?
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  Speaker 1: It's Jeff Mosher, Adam Kaplan, and of course you know,
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  training camp has started because we are joined by Inside
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  the Birds dot COM's Andrew the Checko, host also of
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  the Checko Daily podcast on Inside the Birds.
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  Speaker 2: So between all of.
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  Speaker 1: Us three we get covered with training camp Eagles training
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  camp like nobody else. And so fellows, we're only two
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  practices down as we record this podcast, and no pads
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  and practices have been between seventy five minutes the first
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  day and a little longer the second day. So a
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  lot of today's this podcast, right, we'll go through some observations,
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  but also any intel that we've gotten along the way
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  and things that might be less x's and o's oriented
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  and more big picture oriented. So there's a lot to
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  talk about. And the cool thing is, Andrew, you're going
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  to be at pretty much every single practice. I'll be
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  at alternating practices, Adam will be at alternating practices, so
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  we'll have you know, a diversity of viewpoints each each
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  time we do a pod here, and Andrew, we're gonna
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  try to get you involved in these as much as
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  possible throughout the Yeah, good, good, so I just want
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  to start off like a big picture, just because the
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  Eagles got some good and bad news I guess health
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  wise as they started the camp. The really good news
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  was John Campbell being way way ahead of schedule, being
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  out there limited participant for the first two days. I
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  would juxtapose that though, and I want to start with
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  this also, Kenyan Green, who's definitely an approven year for him,
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  trying to, you know, a be a first round pick
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  and be just win right guard and be a productive
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  player on fifty three not even ready at the start
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  of the camp, missing the first two days for the knee.
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  Speaker 2: Adam, which one will start with you?
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  Speaker 1: Which one is is a little bit more on your
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  radar moving the needle one way or another.
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  Speaker 2: Campbell being back or Green not even being out the
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  first Campbell being back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, even if Kenyan Green was healthy to start camp,
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  it's we kind of know Tyler Steen's job to lose.
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  So that's a shame that he's dealing with this knee issue.
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  But the big thing is Campbell's a minimum of two
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  weeks ahead of schedule. That's really good. And with Nikobe
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  Dean's situation, as you noted, a couple of months ago,
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  the feeling around the teams, he won't be back to
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  some time in October. We now have to start talking
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  about your hot Campbell's potentially starting week one versus those
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  cowgirls as an inside backer. That that absolutely is in
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  play right now. That I don't like to make is,
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  you know, hard statements after one or two days. In fact,
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  I usually wait a week until we start making some
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  evaluations of hard information, of hard news. But that's one
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  thing at least have to talk about, is that he
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  could be starting week one. It's it's absolutely in play
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  right now.
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  Speaker 4: All right, I'm marking this down. July twenty four to
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  twenty twenty five. Adams sounded a little bit like an
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  Eagles fan there, calling Andrew, I thought, just watching Campbell
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  after two practices and you saw both, I saw one.
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  My thought was, I'm really just looking for how this
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  guy is kind of moving on the field. We already
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  know he's got a whole playbook and.
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  Speaker 1: Position change somewhat ahead of him, but just as far
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  as fluidity, movement instincts, what did you say.
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  Speaker 5: You know he's listed as limited, but I mean, from
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  my vantage point, looked like he took every second team
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  rep alongside Smile Mandan.
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  Speaker 6: Junior the last two days.
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  Speaker 5: You see the range, you see the length, and you
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  see that he finds a knack for being around the football.
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  I thought yesterday, oh, I guess it would have been
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  the first day of training camp. He made a nice
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  play on a crossing route to Danny Gray. Gray had
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  a step. That ball probably could have been a little
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  bit better, but he got a hand in there and
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  you see the wingspan and the length and he deflected
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  the pass away. He had a tough one today he
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  was trailing, but Johan Dotson on a crosser. Johan Dotson's
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  going to come up with that every time. Great pass
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  from jaywhen hurts. But yeah, this is a player that
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  I think is going to make an early impact for
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  this football team. He's had a schedule and you heard
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  Vic van Jay today kind of allude to that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, it's I made the same observation you did.
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  I'm like, why are they considering him limited when it
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  seems like he's out there with the second team every time.
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  My guess is that because the pads aren't out and
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  maybe there are a couple of things individual drills that
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  maybe he didn't do. I don't know as they take
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  it easy on the shoulder. But limited in this case
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  carries a whole different connotation than our normal understanding.
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  Speaker 2: Of what limited means. Remember limited, by the way.
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  Speaker 5: Talking to mac Bond yesterday after practice, he noted that, yeah,
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  he missed some time in the spring, which was significant,
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  but it doesn't look like he's that far behind.
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  Speaker 6: He mentioned that on after day one.
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  Speaker 2: It's good.
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  Speaker 3: That's really good. And remember with with limited, it just
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  means less in what they would normally have scheduled for you.
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  Right again, because he didn't really practice in the off season,
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  he was taking mental re so I remember I remember
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  watching him by it. You know, you he has allowed
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  to do certain movements and you could see it's he's
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  like mimicking because it's his knees were fine, that wasn't
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  the problem. He just couldn't take any contact. So you
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  take the metal reps and now you apply him to
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  what he learned.
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  Speaker 2: Now you got it.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you know, we we didn't think we'd be talking
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  about this this earily. I mean you got to start talking. Okay,
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  let's see how this progresses. It's at least on the
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  conversation now, and we'll see the way the rest of
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  camp look.
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  Speaker 1: For him, right, and Andrew, you've been noticing noting in
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  your daily observations on Inside the Birds dot com that
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  everybody should check out. That's your understanding that both with
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  Campbell and Cam Jurgens, who's also been limited, it's it's.
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  Speaker 6: More like it's a pitch, right that that's what it is.
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  It's all part of the recovery process, so it's it's
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  a natural progression.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, Great, let's start with offense, just as we make
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  some some observations here. There's no pads out, you know,
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  Adam and I talked about this in a recent pod
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  and you actually wrote it to Andrew. Is that know,
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  with AJ Dillon coming off of missing a year from
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  the neck injury stinger related nerve that it would be
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  smart to actually get him a little more action in
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  the nonpad practices and just see how he responds. You
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  have to crawl before you walk with this kind of injury.
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  And it's stuck out to me in the second practice
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  that he got a lot of carries for what's usually
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  a passing camp. And Andrew, I imagine and Adam that
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  they're really this is what they're doing. They're just trying
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  to make sure that this guy can at least get
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  through the first barrier of a comeback, which is can
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  you get some carries? Can you get a little bit
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  of not only called thud, but there is some contact there.
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  You got to get through the hole, and can your
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  neck respond positively to that? Adam we saw with Rashad
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  Penny like they gave him work and that we just
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  never saw saw him, you know, really manifest into what
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  you thought he was gonna be. But I think with Dylan,
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  you gotta at least get him these reps and see
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  where he's at physically.
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  Speaker 3: When we get to the second way is when you
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  could do you can the practice cold be a little
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  bit heavier. It's not so much how long they practice,
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  it's what they actually do in practice. The heavy practice
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  happened starting week two. We're gonna it shouldn't take more
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  in a week to know if Dylan's back. No, what
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  does that look like? It's a big dude, you know
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  he the thighs are huge.
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  Speaker 2: He's not.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't he Shipley's got the juice. It's they need
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  volume from Dylan. If if Barkley can't play as much
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  as we all love Shipley. He's explosive. Nobody's any idea
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  how much volume he could have. This is a volume
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  running offense. We didn't know that quite like we would
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  learn last season. It was a crazy volume offense and running.
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  And they're not gonna change, not as long as Barkley's here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew, I know Dylan is not a you know,
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  his two hundred and sixty pounds. He's not like a
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  guy who's gonna look like say, Kwon Barkley.
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  Speaker 2: When he was running with.
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  Speaker 3: The ball, the bark two sixty, he won sixty fifty.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry to fifty. I thought he was.
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  Speaker 6: He's probably like two fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big, big dude fifty geez. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So just watching him run does not look exp I mean, again,
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  it's just Otia's but I wonder if he himself is
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  a little bit just going at seventy percent speed as
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  he tested, because when he gets when he did get
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  the ball and you saw him run, it wasn't like,
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  you know, wasn't what you typically see from a running back.
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  Speaker 5: Now, but to your point, I think, you know, revving
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  him up and getting some tread on the tires ahead
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  of the pads coming on they're probably trying to gauge
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  where he's at. I did think he looked a little springy,
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  and I guess that's all relative when he bursts through
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  the hole. But yeah, I mean he has a clear
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  cut roll. We've talked about it. I mean, in a
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  perfect scenario, he would be the closer or somebody who
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  would fill in for Saquon should he have to miss
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  any time, because we know that he can handle value.
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  The question now becomes how how is he going to
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  bounce back from missing a season with the neck injury.
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  Speaker 6: We're gonna learn a little bit more in the coming weeks, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Uh, let's talk a little bit more about big
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  picture right now. With Jurgens on a pitch count, you're
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  seeing Brent Toath getting some.
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  Speaker 2: First team center reps.
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  Speaker 1: I mean Jurgons is still doing some too, but then
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  he comes out comes in Drew Kendall second team center.
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  In your estimation, both of you, guys, how long do
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  you think before Kendall is getting is considered the number
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  two center? Because we haven't seen any issues yet in
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  two days, but we know that Toath is not a
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  guy who snaps the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Well, probably next week I would out imagine that seriously though.
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  I mean they drafted Drew Kendall to be the backup center,
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  and in a perfect world that that's what he's going
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  to be able to do. Take the you know, answer
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  the bell and and prove that he can be the
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  backup center. Bret Toath, We've seen this play out a
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  couple of several different summers.
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  Speaker 6: He's the veteran, he knows, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, he's familiar with the players on that line, so
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  he gives you some stability in the interim.
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  Speaker 6: But eventually I think that he'll get leap frog by
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  the Brookie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah and Adam. I think Toath was playing second team
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  left guard. I mean they literally just put him wherever
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  they think they need a body at that moment.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Brent to He's played every position.
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  Speaker 3: I know literally, I'm assuming both guard spots. I've seen
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  him a line up at both tackle spots over his
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  six year career on and off the Eagles roster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: One thing with Drew Kennell is and this is from
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  a scouting standpoint, because I know a friend of mine
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  who has his area said, you know, he's really not
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  a guard. He's not strong enough and not the greatest
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  athlete in the world. But he's got good hands, he
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  kind of knows what he's doing. Ideally, there are some
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  other guys you probably want to be the backup center.
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  He was just saying in general because skyworks for another team,
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  so he's not He wasn't talking about He didn't know
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  anything about Brett Toath. So I was like, I said,
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  the dude, trust me. They want Kendall to be the two.
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  But he said it's something they're going to have to
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  learn over time. You can't just pencil him in. He's
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  not that good. There's a reason why he was a
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  fifth round pick, so we need to get there first.
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  But I would say this, if they're not happy with
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  Drew Kennell, I would assume they're going to look outside
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  the roster. You can't be.
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  Speaker 5: And by the way, Trevor Keagan is the third team center,
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  and Trevor Kagan repped at center.
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  Speaker 6: At the Senior Bowl and he can play all three
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  in tiers.
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  Speaker 2: It's important.
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  Speaker 6: But I think that's something to keep in mind.
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  Speaker 3: Watch that because Andrew you mentioned that a couple months ago.
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  Let's watch that because I know teams were looking at him,
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  were not looking at him as a center. But that
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  doesn't really matter once you get the NFL. If this
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  offensive line coach Jeff Stallin thinks you can do it.
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  As we've learned, no one in the National Footbague thought
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  McKai Beckham could play guard. Okay, no one except that guy,
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  and he was right.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting that I don't think he can took any center
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  reps even in practice last year. I could be wrong
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  about that, but I'm pretty sure played left guard, so
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  it'd be pretty interesting to see his development there. All right,
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  enough O line talk. Everybody else's hell. One of these
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  days I want to I want to write a story
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  for Philly.
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  Speaker 2: Voice if I can.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we think about this, but if you're
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  a guy like Kendall Right, or a guy like Miles
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  Hinton or even Darien Kinnard who who played like every
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  single snap of two preseason games last year, you might
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  actually be a pretty good player. But you almost have
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  a zero shot of ever playing on the Eagles offensive
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  line unless somebody gets hurt because they are that talented
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  from left right to center. I mean, like you're a
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  fifth round pick offensive lineman, you've got a shot to
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  make a fifty three or even start for a lot
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  of teams in the NFL because offensive line plays so bad.
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  But you come to the Eagles and you're hoping to
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  put good film on and hope that someday you can
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  get on the field.
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  Speaker 2: But think about the likelihood of it.
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  Speaker 1: Like my lot of very misses very little time, Lane
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  Johnson misses very little time. Dickerson's three Pro Bowls in
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  now your right guard, I'm sorry, your center just made
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  the Pro Bowl in Jurgons with an extension. Really, only
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  right guard is open, and you know, if Tyler Stein
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  claims it, he claims it. So it's an interesting dynamic
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  where I think most guys who are in their first
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  or second year off for talent have a pretty good
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  shot to see some time if they're playing for a
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  different team.
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  Speaker 2: But that's for down the road. I wanted to talk
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  about the offense in general.
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  Speaker 1: Adam and I Adam probably gets tired of me always
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  saying that for twenty years of covering this team, I
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  would say at least fifth team to seventeen of those years,
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  the defenses ahead of the offense. There's always been a
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  couple of years when the offense was ahead, but I've
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  only seen one practice Andrew you've been in both. For me,
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  it looks like the offense and it would make sense, right,
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  the offense almost everybody's back. The defense is trying to
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  replace half its starters. But the offense clearly so far
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  looks like it's been more rhythmic, and Hurts looks like
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  he's in really good comfort with Brown, Goddard, Smith, and
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  even Johan Dotson.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you haven't really seen a lot of explosive plays,
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  but you've seen the timing and the accurate throws from
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  Jay One Hurts. Yeah, yesterday's practice day one, it looked
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  like Jay One and aj Brown were in mid season
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  four pitching catch They just you can see the work
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  that they put in off the field to make sure
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  that's all dialed in. Johan dottson DeVante, Smith, Dallas Goddard
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  had some nice catches today.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, that offense is, you know, as it should be.
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  Speaker 5: It seems to be humming and the defense, which obviously
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  has a lot of new pieces, is their working there
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  to establish an identity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would actually say just from my own observation,
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  I mean, Andrew talked about the crossing pattern that I
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  think DeVante DeVante hit got hit on a crossing route
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  between the numbers that was just past John Campbell right
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  and he hit Goddard between three defenders. It was a
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  beautiful pass and throw down the left scene between the numbers.
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  I felt like I saw more between the numbers throws
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  and completions from Jalen Hurts, and this one practice that
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  we might have seen. All we ever talked about is
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  how amazing it is that he can win games and
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  throw for all these touchdowns without throwing between the numbers.
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  I don't know if that was intentional, but if that's
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  a development, that's a pretty good one for him and
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  for the team.
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  Speaker 3: So someone who worked with Kevin Btulo told me that
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  he his offense will be a little bit more West
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  Coast base than Kellen Moore. Klin Moore, No, He's one
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  of the reasons why he lost his job with Dallas
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  was because Mike McCarthy didn't run the kelln More system.
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  He basically told the truth.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't.
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  Speaker 3: When Mike McCarthy got the head coach job and he
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  inherited Kellen Moore, he had to give up the play
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  callhim because Jerry Jones told him to. He didn't have
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  a They've run completely different systems. Now you go to
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  Philly with Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore runs a different system
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  than Kevin Batula and Nick Sirianni ran, So there had
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  to be a happy medium. Now Kevin Btulla is running
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  the show, Kevin's gonna run tweak from last year. You
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  can't completely change. It's not fitter hurts. There's gonna be
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  You always know, every play caller has his own finishing
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  touch on it. So on what you just said, I'm
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  gonna look for that when I'm at Saturday's practice and
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  and we all three of us, will do we notice
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  any his hurts thrown a little bit more inside the numbers?
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  Is there anything different from the raph combinations that they're
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  gonna There's gonna be differences. We just gotta we gotta
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  call it out when we see it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, well, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 5: Last summer there was a lot of that, and there's
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  also a lot of passes to the running backs, and
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  you didn't quite see that carry over into the regular seats.
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  Speaker 2: Two years ago.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't see it at all. Remember we saw Swift
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  Andrew Jeff was there. There was one practice Swift might
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  have caught fifteen passes, were like, oh, this is it,
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  it's gonna stay and we never saw it, so you
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  never know.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a good point, Andrew, like, uh, and plus
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  we have the defense. So for those who have never
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  been to training camp at the Novacare Complex, the way
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  they practice on the middlefield for reporters is that we
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  generally see the backs.
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  Speaker 2: Of the defense and the offense coming at us right.
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  Speaker 1: So you it's hard with the defense in front of
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  us to really see the offensive alignment. Like I was
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  trying to see if Johan Dotson was lining up more
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  in the slot or more outside, or if they were
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  just you know, reduced splits, a type of different offensive
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  alignments because he's catching a decent number of passes.
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  Speaker 2: But it was difficult to see.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just something that you have to kind of
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  micro micro in on when you're when you're there. But
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  he did looking rither and so to my point, it
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  seemed like a lot of those throws were between the
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  numbers and on target. But I don't know if it
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  came against man or zone or looks that they normally see.
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  You know, we know one of the issues last year
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  for Hurts earlier in the season is like guys were
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  right there in a zone and open and he would
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  not throw it to them. Or aj Brown on a
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  comeback on the even outside and he wouldn't throw and
• 17:16
  he would go somewhere else. I mean, at least for
• 17:19
  these practices, you see him getting getting rid of the ball.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: Yes, definitely, just getting the ball out of his hands
• 17:24
  and making you know, smart decisions with the football. The
• 17:27
  football rarely hits the ground with Jaywen Hurts, I think
• 17:30
  today there was the will Shipley dropping the flat and
• 17:33
  then the play in which Zach Vond got a hand
• 17:35
  in to break up a pass to Devonte Smith.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Right, And I don't think there's been an interception or
• 17:41
  a turnover yet in campus.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Was there one day?
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: One? No?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: All right, so that's good. Good for the offense. So
• 17:46
  offense ahead of defense. Why don't we talk about.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: The defense first.
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• 18:51
  there's a lot of different storylines on defense. So what
• 18:54
  did you make Andrew? We'll start with this the cornerback spot.
• 18:57
  There's two things to talk about here. One, there's Quinny
• 18:59
  on mit So and the fact that he's not just
• 19:01
  lining up at right corner, he's playing both right and
• 19:06
  left corner. And Vic Fangiel talked about which surprised me
• 19:10
  his history of occasionally playing cornerbacks in trail, not trail
• 19:14
  like following, you know, shadowing, traveling, Yeah, yeah, yeah, traveling
• 19:17
  with the number one receiver. And then obviously you had
• 19:21
  Dori Jackson starting on day two, where it was Ringo
• 19:24
  on day one.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: What do you make of that, Andrew, Well, I'm expecting
• 19:28
  that all through the preseason until someone emerges.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: So on day one, Keey Ringo had a tough day.
• 19:35
  They gave up a deep.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Shot to Tarras Marshall on a really perfectly placed pass
• 19:39
  from Tanner McKee, and then he gave up one down
• 19:43
  the other sideline to AJ Brown on what was like
• 19:45
  a jump off from twenty to twenty five yards out.
• 19:48
  That was a classic case of Jayalen Hurts and AJ
• 19:50
  Brown knowing where each other was going to be or
• 19:53
  where to place the football. There's not much Kelley could
• 19:55
  have done. He also got out muscled on the sideline
• 19:58
  by Tarras Marshall, who used a his body to kind
• 20:00
  of shield them off and really you know, pluck the
• 20:03
  football away from him. So today was Dori Jackson's term
• 20:07
  with the first team, but Kiely Ringo got most of
• 20:09
  the seven on seven reps opposite Quinyon Mitchell, So I'm
• 20:12
  expecting a lot of that mixing and matching throughout the summer.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Adam, you've talked about, you know, the idea
• 20:17
  that this thing could look like a competition for the
• 20:20
  first couple of days like last year, and then all
• 20:22
  of a.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Sudden Rogers was the guy. So we've we've got a lot.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: We'll glean a lot more in the next coming days.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I'm actually more fascinated by Vic talking about the idea
• 20:31
  of traveling Quinnon Mitchell. Not that Quinyon doesn't deserve it.
• 20:34
  He was great last year, but Vic plays so much
• 20:36
  zone I almost think that that that's sort of an
• 20:39
  approach that's a lot of coordinators don't want to take
• 20:41
  because they're not trying to telegraph their defense.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll ask Greco sell this, but we know they
• 20:46
  are bottom five of man team. They just don't play
• 20:49
  a lot of man. That's the Fancier system. This is
• 20:51
  the way it is in terms of what their philosophy is.
• 20:55
  But to me, it's real simple. If they could just
• 21:00
  get enough quality play from whoever starts opposite at right corner,
• 21:06
  this defense still could could be good. Now, the other
• 21:08
  part of it is and Jay Exxon, who may not
• 21:12
  be on the field a lot of rush jumps because
• 21:13
  Ojeari has been on the field a lot so far.
• 21:16
  But if their pass rush is good and the right
• 21:19
  corner guys just hold the fourth that you don't have
• 21:21
  to be great the defense. I'm not saying it's gonna
• 21:24
  be as good as last year, being very hard to
• 21:26
  but the drop off that some people think and I
• 21:28
  get to talk because you've got at least five different starters,
• 21:32
  maybe the drop off won't be as as steep as
• 21:34
  people think it is. But again, we've got through two practices.
• 21:38
  We know Regine's gonna be on the field just seemingly
• 21:40
  maybe every snap. It seems like Vick Andrew is gonna
• 21:43
  figure out a way to make sure he's on the field.
• 21:45
  And by the way he's doing because he's maybe one
• 21:47
  of the top two or three best defensive players, you know.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, he was safety in base again, obviously they're
• 21:53
  not in base hardly ever, a very small.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Percentage eight to ten plays a game.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, it's the second day where he was getting
• 22:01
  He opened practice as the safety opposite Red Blanket Ship.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious to see if he's actually going to
• 22:10
  be a base corner at all, because remember that first
• 22:13
  OTA or second OTA, it was corner in base that
• 22:17
  he started playing at, and then everybody made a big
• 22:19
  deal of it, and then the last ota it was
• 22:21
  safety in base that he was playing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Hey, he did say no, if you really listened to
• 22:27
  him closely, he said something which I've been telling the
• 22:29
  Patreon people for two months. Don't just assume that if
• 22:33
  the cornerback position at the right corner position doesn't work
• 22:36
  out well at the lookoutside the organization, it's not out
• 22:40
  of the question. They play de Gene a lot more
• 22:43
  at corner than they anticipated if it doesn't work out
• 22:46
  with the other two guys, right, because remember they did
• 22:49
  draft him to play corner. I know they've moved away
• 22:51
  from that for the most part. Cooper we're talking about,
• 22:54
  but it's not out of the question that he wants
• 22:56
  up being the right corner. I'm not saying it's going
• 22:58
  to happen, but let's not just assume they're gonna look
• 23:01
  for make a trade. We know how he's got thirteen picks.
• 23:03
  I got to do something with these picks. But a
• 23:05
  lot of people just, well, well they'll just do what
• 23:06
  they did with Derby a couple of years ago. Yes,
• 23:08
  that's absolutely in play, but you got to get through
• 23:12
  this thing. People make a lot of assumptions there for
• 23:13
  two days. Yes, and you gotta be careful with that stuff.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Again.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Campbell's the one thing I would say him being back early,
• 23:21
  He's gonna get a lot of repsient inside back or
• 23:23
  let and you have to start talking about it because
• 23:25
  it's real.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you guys get a sense just listening to
• 23:30
  Vick who I think you can get a sense of
• 23:32
  how he feels about certain guys on how he says
• 23:34
  things that he's sort of intrigued by Mac McWilliams, who
• 23:37
  has been practicing at.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Both Slot and outside. Did Andrew did you kind of
• 23:41
  your Radaro company?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I jotted that down and I underlined it, and because
• 23:45
  that was, you know, on the heels of a practice
• 23:48
  where I thought Mac McWilliams, and it was only a
• 23:49
  handful of snaps, so I didn't put it in my observations,
• 23:52
  but I thought he did a nice job as the
• 23:55
  backup Nickel to Cooper Degene.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: I'm curious to see where this goes.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to look for the exact phrasing in
• 24:03
  the he almost you know how Greg cosel out of
• 24:06
  the way that a player has something in his body
• 24:09
  or has something there that that was kind of like
• 24:12
  how Vic described He said something like we need to
• 24:14
  really find out about him or something like that. Yeah,
• 24:17
  we'll flip for it, we'll find it. But I'm glad
• 24:20
  you used that terminology because I kind of did the
• 24:22
  same thing.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: He has a chance to play corner and he's playing
• 24:26
  nickel right now. I just kind of jotted down some
• 24:29
  quick notes as he was talking.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, look, they were gonna they were gonna cross
• 24:32
  train him any anyway. But the way he said it,
• 24:35
  I think you're right. He seemed to be intrigued. Vic's
• 24:38
  a guy you could read into a lot like what
• 24:40
  he's thinking now. Again, like he he didn't want to
• 24:43
  criticize anyone in particular, but he thought he just laughed,
• 24:45
  he chuckled. You heard him talk about what some of
• 24:48
  the players said about Hunt, you know, comparing to Michael
• 24:51
  Parson's all that he just it's just not right, you know,
• 24:54
  you can't and right, not only that, I mean Hunt
• 24:59
  may not playing. He may not be he may be
• 25:01
  just a bass down player. He may not be playing
• 25:03
  a nickel at all. Who knows Yeah, yeah, because Jelari
• 25:06
  is a better pass rusher.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: He just is. Yeah. Absolutely.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: And Mac McWilliams. Here's what Vic Fangio said. This is
• 25:14
  a direct quote quote. Mac is a young player that
• 25:17
  we like. We think he can play the nickel position.
• 25:19
  I think he's got a chance at corner. He's an
• 25:22
  interesting guy here that these next four or five weeks
• 25:25
  to see how much the progresses and see if he
• 25:28
  finds a role with us. I mean, that's that's not
• 25:30
  like dismissive statement. He basically said, we're liking what we
• 25:34
  see both in two spots, nickel and corner, and these
• 25:38
  next four weeks are important from here. So I do
• 25:41
  feel like the wheels are churning in their mind. That
• 25:43
  to what Adam was saying, Like if mac McWilliams, if
• 25:46
  they can feel he can play it at a decent
• 25:48
  enough level to continue what they do on defense at
• 25:50
  the nickel, then maybe we see Cooper to Dejean play outside.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: If they're not comfortable there.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I know we're far, but the machinations are there.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: You can see it happening.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Way.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: There's there's enough for mac McWilliams look at it, who
• 26:03
  would be the backup Nickel if mac McWilliams wasn't here.
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: Perry Nickerson's a journeyman.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: He's here because he knows the system. He's not a
• 26:10
  great athlete, he's an older players, but he's been around.
• 26:13
  He's a journeyman. Okay, he's he's not a short spot.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: But that's even a cheat, Like who would it really
• 26:18
  be if it was week five? Because Perry Nickerson's not
• 26:20
  making the fifty three So.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Maybe mccuba mccooba problem.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: That's what he can do a good point. He can
• 26:26
  do it, but right now he's not quite doing that yet.
• 26:29
  Right at cornerback, we want to talk in vic Eas
• 26:33
  at cornerback, not Nickel, Nichols not a corner it's a
• 26:36
  defensive back at cornerback. If it's not Jackson and it's
• 26:41
  not Ringo.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Who is it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: Eli Rix?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I mean no, just this staff doesn't clearly showed you
• 26:50
  last year. He went from being maybe one of the
• 26:54
  top backup for the team when they first got here
• 26:57
  as soon as they got their hands on him down.
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: But that's.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: I will say this.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying at him, but they
• 27:06
  had to make a lot of bottom roster moves last year,
• 27:08
  and he stayed on the team the entire year.
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: So I'm.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to reconcile that they didn't love him
• 27:17
  enough to play him, but they didn't hate him enough
• 27:19
  to cut him either.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's not Vic's call. Vic does not have
• 27:22
  personnel control.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: How he does.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: It's how he's decision.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: How he could have moved and didn't want to.
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: So I.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: Think they liked him a little bit, but he's a
• 27:31
  cover corner. He did he can't help him on special teams.
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: Otherwise, he was only active for seven games, and in
• 27:37
  a numbers crunch like that, it could make some things interesting.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's really uphill here.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: When you start counting defensive backs and you get to
• 27:45
  eight or nine before you get to his name, then
• 27:46
  it's gonna be it's gonna be really difficult, all right.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: So let's sort of close on this year. This is
• 27:54
  gonna be a fun one.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Are we buying or selling? Well, let's for first point
• 28:00
  out the facts. The facts are that Jordan Davis I
• 28:04
  saw my own eyes. I mean, he looks like a
• 28:06
  totally different human being. He is down twenty six pounds
• 28:10
  to three twenty six pounds. He's at three hundred and
• 28:14
  thirty pounds the latest he's been I think, he said,
• 28:16
  since he was a sophomore at Georgia.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And he said, I made this change for two reasons.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: One for life, because he's kind of acknowledging that being
• 28:25
  north of three fifty is not healthy, even off the
• 28:27
  football field.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: And b he said, I want a bigger role. I'm
• 28:31
  tired of not I'm paraphrasing, but.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He basically said, I don't want to be off the
• 28:35
  field anymore on second and long and third and long.
• 28:38
  And I'll add to this that Vic Fangio was asked
• 28:41
  about Moro Jomo stepping in for Milton Williams, and Fangio
• 28:44
  himself said, yes, but those snaps will probably be made
• 28:47
  up by a conglomerate of people including Moro, Jordan Davis,
• 28:51
  and Ty Robinson. So you got to see it to
• 28:54
  a believe that, guy, Adam, are you buying Jordan Davis
• 28:57
  at least right now.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Being in contention to see more pass rush naps?
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: No, because.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: No, because that's not what he is. He He could
• 29:06
  weigh two ninety, it could be two seventy. He's never
• 29:10
  shown the ability by technique to be able to rush
• 29:12
  the passer. Now, if he does it, we'll call it out,
• 29:14
  we'll see it. Well, yeah, you know what, boy, he
• 29:16
  had some really quality rushes when we were you know,
• 29:18
  because typically the way I go when I go to
• 29:20
  training camps, I take two positions and I I'll glance
• 29:23
  at others, but I take two positions that way. I
• 29:25
  feel pretty strong about what I saw. Well, obviously we
• 29:28
  check in with people and see what they saw. But
• 29:32
  it's just he's never shown it. I mean, he like
• 29:35
  you saw the great pass rusher Derek Carr was running
• 29:37
  for his life.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: It's great in week three, but he's not that player.
• 29:41
  So it has noting to do with weight. I'm gonna
• 29:43
  bring it home again. It's about technique. Right when he's
• 29:47
  had he's it is not It is very I don't
• 29:50
  see nothing but very little to do with his weight.
• 29:52
  It's about using the proper technique now later in the
• 29:55
  game because of his stamina when he's too heavy, Sure
• 29:58
  he gets sloppy, but he's never shown the ability to
• 30:01
  really rush the passer. So to move this along, I
• 30:04
  want to talk about turns, smash. Before you get out
• 30:05
  of heres, we've got Oh yes, yes, yes, So I
• 30:07
  finish this off in defense on because I have a
• 30:09
  good nugget on Turch Marshall what we're done.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I hear what you're saying, and I
• 30:14
  agree with you. I'm skeptical until he actually shows it.
• 30:17
  But some of those things that you're talking about can
• 30:20
  be improved and refined. And Andrew, if he were to
• 30:23
  really take the coaching and learn how to use his hands,
• 30:26
  learn how to use his body, learn how to play
• 30:28
  with leverage.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I still think it's tough.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: For him because he's battling against career pass rushers. Interior
• 30:35
  rushers like Ty Robinson and Moro Jomo have been doing
• 30:37
  it that way for their entire life.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: But you never know.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're clearly picked up his fifth year option.
• 30:44
  They want to see it, and the coaches said they
• 30:46
  felt they were seeing it at the end of last year.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you saw it in the postseason. That look, is
• 30:52
  he going to be a five to six sack of
• 30:54
  season guy. That's not what he is.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Adam outlined that he's more of a run defending tackle,
• 30:59
  But I think he has a little bit more in
• 31:01
  him than what he's shown.
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: And Eagles are certainly banking on that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: Jordan's taking this elevated opportunity very seriously.
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: He's showing up in shape last season he was as well.
• 31:11
  He wants to play more.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I don't think he's played more than forty five percent
• 31:14
  of the snaps in any of his seasons at the
• 31:17
  pro level, and the Eagles are certainly banking on him
• 31:19
  being able to make that leap.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Let me have this.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: It's not so much sax. Sacks are literally individual plays.
• 31:26
  I'm looking for pressure, right, get your pressure rate. Make
• 31:28
  the quarterback move.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Don't sacks.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: They're great if you get them. Just make the quarterback move.
• 31:33
  That's a win. That's a quarter that's a win. That's
• 31:35
  what NFL people will tell you, Right, if you make
• 31:37
  the quarterback move you want.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: That's all you need to do. Right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: He's capable of doing that to a certain extent, but
• 31:44
  it's got to start with the technique. It's been mostly
• 31:48
  not good enough. I'll be nice about it. That's the truth.
• 31:51
  That's a football stick. Because I can tell you you've
• 31:53
  taught Jeff. Jeff and I have talked to a lot
• 31:55
  of the same people. We also talked to Greg co
• 31:57
  So on a weekly basis Greg, he's been Jordan Davis's
• 32:00
  hardshiss critic because it's all from the tape. He's also
• 32:03
  been he he's going out his way. Hey, I want
• 32:07
  to talk about what Jordan Davis. He looked really good,
• 32:08
  so going to make sure we talk about it. He
• 32:10
  just tells he only talks about what the tape tells him.
• 32:12
  That's right.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know that goes back to Georgia, where
• 32:15
  he observed that, as he phrased it, Jordan Davis is
• 32:19
  a power player but.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Not a strength player.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I meaning he has power, he can stalemate you, but
• 32:23
  he doesn't displace and move people consistently the way you
• 32:27
  would think a man built of his size and stature
• 32:30
  would do that. And I always thought that was a
• 32:31
  really good kind of colorful description for for people to
• 32:35
  be able to visualize.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I did. Nothing stood out to me from from day two.
• 32:40
  I mean, I thought he was I'm not gonna jude
• 32:44
  him off one practice with when they're on pads.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: But nothing really jumped out to me other than his
• 32:48
  post practice press conference. Yeah, I know, And I think
• 32:53
  it's a little fair as an organization to sort of
• 32:57
  be disappointed that it took this long to hear him
• 32:59
  say I'm dedicated to losing this amount of weight. I
• 33:02
  want to be out there on second and long third low.
• 33:05
  That should have been like after year one when he
• 33:09
  got hurt and then they had to bring some other
• 33:10
  guys in and things like that. So I mean, better
• 33:13
  late than never, But I'm sure the organization would have
• 33:15
  rather have heard him say that.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: You know, two years ago as opposed to now. All right,
• 33:21
  so that, yeah, that's.
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: Terrence Marshall.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was just about to segue to Terrence Marshall,
• 33:27
  what'd you got cool?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: So basically the book on him from when he was
• 33:31
  with the Panthers he was a flash player and then
• 33:34
  he would disappear and they got frustrated with him because
• 33:37
  he just couldnt be consistent at all. You saw, you
• 33:41
  could see the obvious town. He's long, he could run
• 33:44
  run after the catch really good, and then he'd disappear
• 33:46
  and he looked like a six round pick instead of
• 33:48
  a second round pick. Right. I think it was a
• 33:50
  secon round pick.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: So he's looked good so far. He had a good spring,
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  by the way, so this might be like he's on
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  his way to being maybe look the best he's looked
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  at professional in terms of all season program. But again,
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  we've only seen two practices. The all season's done already.
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  He's got it, he's got to bring it. But there again,
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  there's a wonderful opportunity for him here. They have no
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  depth a receiver. It really it's Dotson's three, four, five
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  and six er ticket. People want to put Johnny Wilson
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  in the roster because he's a good blocker. Okay, that's fine,
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  but Terras Marshall has no offense. It's way more talent
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  than Johnny Wilson. He's just not a big giant body
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  like Johnny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that Terres Marshall is that guy
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  you want to watch, like in between the first and
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  second preseason game, after your body's been through a lot
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  of practices a preseason game, are you bringing it the
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  same way that you were in the first week.
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  Speaker 2: Dawkins used to talk about this all all the time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, guys would look good and shirts and shorts
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  and then the pads come on and it's not just
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  the pads coming on. Then it's a couple of days
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  of the pads being on and the body's collideing, Like
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  are you still that dog, you know, two weeks in
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  when it's one hundred and you know, and so that
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  that's the guy we're gonna watch and say, was that
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  the flash that Adam's sources alluded to? Or is this
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  guy actually stringing together a really good set of practices
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  and finally.
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  Speaker 2: Living up to what he's going to be. What have
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  you observed between him and I and anybody else? Andrew?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I went into training camp with Danny
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  Gray highlighted, but it's been Tarras Marshall that that has
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  caught my eye really consistent when the boss come his way,
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  got vertical a couple of times, strong hands on the
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  sideline as I'd mentioned, prying it away from from Ringo.
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  And yeah, I mean, Jalen Hurts has talked about him,
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  He's praised him. Aj Brown has said that someone like
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  Tarras Marshall can make the wide receiver room uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 6: That was his word, and he said that that's a
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  great thing. And DeVante Smith has also sort of gushed
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  about him. So he has some support there and some familiarity.
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  So I'm looking to see if I can carry.
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  Speaker 2: Over all right great stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Anything else and our observations Andrew you always good for
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  a special team's observation?
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  Speaker 2: Are we too early?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: In camp after two practices to make a special teams.
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  Speaker 5: Avery Williams was back returning, uh, returning kicks today and
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  that was weird that he didn't do another yesterday. Van
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  Schumer and looks like, uh, you know, a wrecking crew,
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  a one man wrecking crew. Healthy, right, he's fast, he's fast,
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  and he's he's aggressive. And then I might say, like,
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  if you want like somebody to look at in the
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  preseason that probably is in a household name Taylor Moran,
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  the wide receiver from Wake Forest. He was returning punts
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  with a small group of players yesterday or day one
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  when when the Eagles were it was an Isa Smith,
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  Cooper Dejene, Taylor Moran. And like Giles Jackson, I believe
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  not even in Avery Williams.
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  Speaker 1: Nice any early candidates for you know, training camp Darling.
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  It was like Sean Derek Owel I saw had a
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  nice little run up the middle.
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  Speaker 5: One of one of our one of our buddies. That
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  say who they had him on the pre camp fifty
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  three man roster. No, I promise you wow, No, no
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  training camp Darling just yet. I think we have to
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  get a roll for that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, just making sure.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna how about we do this again
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  next week after another couple of practices we rounded up.
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  Speaker 6: I love this.
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  Speaker 4: This is gonna be awesome, all right, Frandrew Tochecko and
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  Adam Kaplan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Mosher.
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